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Episode 95: Satine Kryze and Bo-Katan - Antagonistic Sisters of Mandalore (SPOILERS) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello there. It's most things Kenobi.
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Hi, everyone, welcome to another episode of most.
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Thanks Kenobi. A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi,
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and all things. Star Wars.
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I'm your host Leanne and I'm your host Lauren.
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Oh, okay. So today we are discussing the
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strange sisterly Bond the biological joining of the kree's
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sisters Boca Raton. Satine.
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Yes. How they are sisters?
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We don't know. But we're going to discuss that
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today. You know, think it's ever been
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said, right? And cannon not really I mean we
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know their sisters were no, they're from the same clan, we
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know that they both hold positions in Mandalore I guess.
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We'll say, But how in the hell are they from the same tree?
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They are two very different breeds of Apple, from the Tree
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of crease. Yes, Bo has never been my
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favorite character, although I do like her quite a bit in the
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Mandalorian. She's definitely grown on me.
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A large part of this is due to Katee Sackhoff.
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Because yes, it's just implied. She's a badass.
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She's a She seems to be a well spoken individual.
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She has a cool voice. She does the character role.
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Well always has from the Clone Wars all the way to the live
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action of her character from The Clone Wars.
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Yeah, I've loved her since Battlestar Galactica.
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She was so great and that show and just a little side note.
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I loved that in the latest episode of the Mandalorian, she
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got to Pilot like a badass in that episode, I was just like,
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oh my God, like Starbuck all over again that hole.
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Opening scene of last week's episode, which I think is the
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third episode of the Mandalorian.
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Yeah. At the time of this recording so
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that was really something that was really cool.
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The ship the tactics, the confidence.
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You know, we always see her combat style and her fighting
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but piloting is something I like very much to watch her do.
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That's pretty badass. Plus, I love me a good Thai
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Fighter. I know that Montana of got a lot
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in the last episode, you had a whole Squad.
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Adren of them and was this episode the first time that
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we've ever heard the word Crees, uttered in live action?
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I don't know. I feel like they might have said
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her name. She said her season I think she
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said it when she first meets din.
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I think she says it comes from Clan crease or something like
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that. Okay, he wants to know who she
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is and where she's from and she kind of like uses that as a
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point of Pride with, then he doesn't take her seriously
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because she takes her helmet off, right?
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It's a whole thing. Don't even get me started on
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that whole thing. I just I I want the first name
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Satine uttered in live-action. She deserves to be recognized,
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none of this would exist without Satine and that's what is
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missing here. Yeah I think even bow has been
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just saying my sister when referencing Satine.
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I don't think she's ever said her name but it's not just a
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sister. Her sister was the fucking
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duchess. Of Mandalore?
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Yeah, the place that is hollow kind of the central figure
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planet of this whole fucking show.
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Like can we talk about the last true ruler?
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Yeah, she was before it all went to hell.
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She was the like last official legitimate ruler who wasn't
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either usurping the position or appointed it by the emperor so
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or a Sith? Yeah, seriously.
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Holy shit. So we should give a rundown for
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people who don't actually know who Satine and Bo actually are
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and how they have come to be in this timeline at all.
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Yeah, so we don't know. They've never said their names
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of the names of their parents officially.
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They've never mentioned a mother ever in Canon.
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They have said that they had a father in the Mandalorian but I
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don't even think they mentioned the teen's father in the Clone.
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Clone Wars. I don't know how I learned this
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but her father was assassinated, that's what I think.
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Well, doesn't that just make sense?
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Yeah, right shit. He died quote defending
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Mandalore but I and now I'm not really sure if it's Canon or not
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that her father their father was the one who started the whole
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idea of pacifism, but maybe that was just something that's a teen
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did on her own. But either way, she rightfully
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Here it is the throne when her father died and Satine has the
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oldest, right? Yeah.
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She's the oldest sister and Bo is the little sister.
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Yes. And there's and then there's
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another. There's possibly a brother.
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I don't a brother. There might be another sister,
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but I've never, I've heard rumors of a brother, which we've
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talked about in a previous episode that when we were
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talking about Corky job cheese, because corki is not satine's
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nor Bose son, because they both Both call him a nephew that we
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know of, right. Like exactly.
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That was our whole episode was whether or not Corky was a
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Kenobi or not. So if you haven't listened to
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that, check it out. That's a fun.
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That's still to this day. One of our most popular
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episodes. Very true.
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Very true. But here we are.
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I mean, it's so funny. I mean, we have to reference the
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Mandalorian while we talk about this because things keep coming
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out that go back to the Clone Wars, you know, see Teen was
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executed by mall in front of Obi-Wan and Bo sweeps in.
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And it's kind of this, she is a terrorist, she's in the
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terrorist group with what pre Vizsla he has named.
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He's such a smarmy. God, what's post vizla whose
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post vizla like so previous line is Gang and of people that they
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employ mall to take over. Mandalore is a terrible idea.
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It was terrible from the store. Art and bow even tried to tell
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him. It was a terrible idea but she
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went along with it, I know. So this is why when people are
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like she's such a badass I love her so much.
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It's like you haven't watched Clone Wars.
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You haven't watched it here because if you did you might
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have a different opinion and it's not that.
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I'd write just like her necessarily now but when I was
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watching Clone Wars I did not like her.
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The first time I watched it because she is the reason Satine
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dies. Yes.
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Yes, which is it's so ironic because Satine, was a pacifist
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and didn't want fighting, she didn't want that kind of
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Mandalore and yet her sister and obviously are maybe not.
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So, obviously, this will lead to the further character
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development of Boca Raton. Mmm through Mandalore the
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Mandalorian. Yeah, I don't know, it seems to
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be going that direction. But yeah, she's not great.
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In the Clone Wars for a lot of reasons.
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But number one, because she plays a pretty heavy hand in her
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sister's death. What I read said that she joined
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deathwatch very young. Yeah.
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And separated herself basically from the house of crease because
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the teen was promoting passivism.
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I think Katie was even saying this right Katee Sackhoff.
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I saying that hmm Satine was a politician and Bo was raised to
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To be a warrior. So, when Satine decided that she
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didn't want Warriors Boaz, like well, what about we don't?
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I exist. So she joined the death watch.
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And Katie was saying that we never really realized how young
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Bow is in the Clone Wars. So she was impressionable.
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She was young. She made mistakes that she
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later. Regrets, that's good but those
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those are devastating mistake Stitch and she makes them over
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and over. Yes, yes, seriously, I cute
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little things. Your sisters dead.
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So, and that whole fucking planet, they were walking
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through in episode 3, The City burned to the ground.
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All this shit bow is standing there, all ago.
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This was once a great City, it's like, it got destroyed kind of
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cozy, you just saying, yes, yes. And I had an issue with,
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although it was cheeky and kind of like, oh, throwback, When I
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had issue when she mentioned to grow grew, you know, I used to
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set fight side by side with Jedi before bitch.
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You swooped the fuck in and got Kenobi out of there after he had
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the witness, the death of your sister that you had a hand in
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causing who also fought side by side with a Sith.
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No problem so far great. So if you're gonna go the length
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of saying, I thought was a nice, I fought side by side with a
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Jedi. You know, go ahead and say, you
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fought side by side with a Sith or two.
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Yeah, she gathered. She was okay, I'm not gonna say
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she. She was part of a group that
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gathered a bunch of crime syndicates together.
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Yes. I mean this is some dirty
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Galactic shit in the grand scheme of things.
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And then of course we can go into Rebels which we need to
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because it eventually comes all the way back around to everyone.
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What is it? What's his name?
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You get hot dog saved. Oh, the mob Gideon.
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Not quite him yet. Gar sexing.
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That's its axon is like, let me go back in time next step back,
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absolutely sabine's Clan. You gotta understand this about
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mandalorians. If you don't they're messy.
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They're always fighting. The Clans are always against
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each other. Yeah, which is what's the team
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was trying to prevent? Yeah, it was all Civil War one
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right after another that GF tapping them.
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Bo eventually gets the darksaber from who Sabine.
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Yeah, she accepts it. Yeah she accepts it and that's
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what leads us to the Mandalorian or she won't accept it from din
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because of her past right accepting it.
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And this long line of terrible tragic things that happened in
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the Clone Wars and Rebels. Once she says something to
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Sabine and Rebels about not killing somebody.
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Remember, they made that weapon called The Duchess, that's the
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be Helped create that was. Yeah.
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If you're wearing Mandalorian armor, it would basically
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disintegrate you, right? And so Sabine felt angry that
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they use for technology. And so she was going to kill the
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person, the empirical guy who was responsible or whoever I
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don't remember it. Exactly.
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But Bo says something like it's not an honorable killing.
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It's like when does honor start mattering to you like they're
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all the mandalorians are all about this on.
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Honor and code but like pre Visa who is one of the the children
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of the watch or whatever dinner is imperative.
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They're like yeah an offshoot of Death.
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Watch okay so they're like a more extreme version of Death
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Watch and Death. Watch was making these deals
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with Maul and Savage Opress knowing they were going to
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double-cross them. They were using the Sith on
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purpose with the intention of killing them once they had
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achieved their goals. They achieve their goals with
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trickery by making a false invasion of Mandalore so that
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they could overthrow Satine. So when the fuck did honor like
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real honor, become a thing for the mandalorians, like I want to
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pose the question of if it's for your home planet.
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What length is too far before? Honor turns into just whatever
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the fuck that was you just described because that's to me.
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Not honorable, yeah. But in their mind it's like any
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person who fights for the Empire, any person who fights
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for the Rebellion, they think they're doing the right thing
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for the Cause, right? But do the means justify the
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fucking end. No, because Mandalore ended up,
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getting blown up anyway by the Empire.
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Right. Fuck exactly everything they
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did. It's kind of like we talked
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about it before, isn't it Oedipus?
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Who's supposed to like kill his father.
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So he leaves to avoid, killing his father.
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Ultimately that leads him back to a stranger on the road who is
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his father that he kills or something like that.
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It's the same thing with Mandalore.
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It's like no matter what you do you're going to end up in this
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shit hole mess totally. And so today we present to you
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the question how in the hell do you get a pacifist and and a
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fighter turned terrorist? Turned redeemed terrorist?
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Yeah, save your room. Man on clamp.
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Yeah. And you made the point we could
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even do it based off of looks. They don't look the same.
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Now, a lot of sisters and brothers come from the same
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family and one maybe blond in one maybe dark-haired sure, you
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know, skip a generation skip a line, whatever.
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But like, holy shit are they opposite.
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It makes me wonder. Did it drive them further into
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their roles? To spite one another?
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I mean, we don't know. We don't know what the
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relationship was like, No. And There's one line where it
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says, Satine said there was a time when we weren't enemies,
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not that we were friends but that we weren't enemies.
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And like maybe that time is coming again.
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And Bows responses, the end of me.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend and I was like that's
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also not the same as like, Hey we're friends.
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Let's get along. You know, I'm a singer, I'm a
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single, I'm a single child, I'm an only child, I don't know what
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it's like to have siblings. Boiling rivalry.
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But my best friend from my childhood was the middle sister
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of three girls. Mmm.
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And I watch them fight over clothing hair accessories.
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The pettiest shit right? Yeah, and I'm sure anyone out
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there you come from a family of multiple siblings.
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Yeah, it was its natural. It was brutal growing up.
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We're all friends now. But that doesn't always happen.
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Like that's rare actually, I think when you grow up and
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become friends and my family, yeah, my sisters and I are very
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close. But which I love, by the way, I
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love that, I due to its special. I know it's not that common.
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So I feel like we're really lucky to still get along but
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yeah, it was a bloodbath growing up.
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Do you think that bow and Satine had such opposite views because
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of were they in these roles before the father died or did
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the father's death? Drive them to take totally
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opposite points of view? That's a great question.
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You could take a parental death and be like, you know, What I'm
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gonna fight to the end. He tried to defend Mandalore,
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I'm always going to defend Mandalore so you have bow but
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then the parent dies and you have Satine has like, you know
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what, fighting solves nothing. So I'm going to take the role of
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a pacifist. Yeah, I could see that.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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Where the hell is the mother? Who is the mother?
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I know what is the mother? Who is Corky?
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Where the fuck is Corky? And all this.
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Where's the brother? I know, I can't.
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Do you want to hear my theory? Of course, I do on both.
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Yes, a long time ago. In a galaxy far.
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Far away. Sorry.
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So we all know that Dave filoni wanted and a Graves kind of
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reference Cate blanchett's performance in Elizabeth.
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Right? Yes.
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Right Satine is kind of based on Queen Elizabeth and Cate
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blanchett's version in particular.
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And there's this interview, the filoni gave.
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I found it on IGN and I've heard this before.
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I've heard him say this stuff in an interview before.
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Before originally bow was not supposed to be Satine, sister in
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the script that was not the intention.
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So Dave is the one who put that in there.
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George? Lucas did not intend it that
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way. And so Dave is the one who
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changed that all together and he said he waited until like
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production was done and snuck it in there and then showed it to
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George and was like, yeah, you like it.
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It's okay. Yeah, exactly.
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And and he liked it so they kept it in but then Dave said I'm
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going to read from an interview that he with IGN that he gave he
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said I have a rather lengthy backstory that even explains how
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she became a death watch soldier that goes all the way back to
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the time when she and the Teen are six because to figure out
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how she got to that point. And yet Satine is a duchess like
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they're not remotely on the same page.
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He says I have a whole story about who their father was and
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what their relationships were and everything with Vizsla.
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Going back for a very long time and how that intersects with
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Obi-Wan Kenobi. Oh, and we don't have this yet.
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No, and he said, I'd give you more detail except I'd like to
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tell that story at some point in some form of Star Wars media in
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the future, all right? And he said, he's discussed it
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with people at lucasfilm and they have like, plans for it.
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I see you. Dave, you cheeky man in your
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little hat. All righty.
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Tell us another Story. So if he's basing Satine on
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Queen Elizabeth, I wonder if he's basing bow, Princess Mary
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and that they do not have the same mother.
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Oh I wonder if Bo was the result of a concubine or a mistress
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that wrist. Mmm.
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And like in Henry the eighth's experience those daughters.
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Is became legitimate Queens even though they came in and out of
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favor. So for a while, they were
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whenever it was convenient they'd be called a bastard child
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and cast out and then yeah the real King died and they needed
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somebody. So they brought in one of the
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best erds. I like this Theory because that
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would create constant Discord between them.
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Yes you have a different mother and you're not my real sister
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and right the impartiality. The between the father and both
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of them may be trying to keep the peace between the half
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sisters and stuff. Yeah, I could tell this is
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great. I like this Theory because also
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with Henry the eighth, he loved Mary until he married Anne
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Boleyn, and then he loved Elizabeth, but also kind of
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didn't because she wasn't a boy. And, and so, like, each girl
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kept feeling, like, they were being replaced over and over,
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depending on, what's Happening. And so, I was wondering if like,
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Beau was the apple of his eye Die for Marshall stuff.
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Like learning to fight and Satine was very smart and
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learning politics and becoming Savvy that way.
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And it was just like, then he dies prematurely and the sisters
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are never reconciled. And Bo could have been raised in
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another household because he/she had a different mother true,
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which would explain why she has a totally different accent.
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Doesn't sound anything, like, stettin or corky, right?
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That's my theory. Hey, it's a good one.
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It stands, there's it's purely conjecture but it makes sense, I
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guess if you think about when you put it like you did it kind
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of? Yeah.
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It kind of you know connects a few dots anyway.
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Yeah. I mean it could just be a simple
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as you know Satine looks like her mom and bow looks like your
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dad but you know that's why they look so different.
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We don't have any material. So this is what we're left with
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but if filoni tell The story sometime, it'll be worth it.
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I think, how does previous Le and bow tie back to 0, b 1.
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Like if we're talking about when stettin and bow or six years old
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and then somehow this all ties in with the Jedi.
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What does it have to do with when him and Qui gonn, help
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Satine? It could, it could I mean filoni
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I'm sure has his own idea of what happened during that year
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on the Run. Maybe like we already have that
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story and it's called, The Jedi and his Duchess so sorry filoni
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it's been written already by Lauren even as artwork.
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Okay, has the book cover. Yes it's real.
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This is all fun to think of we're getting more than I ever
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thought we would with any of the creases right now.
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I mean stettin made her Mark for any Obi-Wan fan.
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Yeah. And bow is just kind of like an
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addition to Story and a mysterious character.
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And then we got more and Rebels that kind of tied it a little
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bit together and she was a little bit redeemed and that was
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kind of like book closed and now she's brought back into the
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Mandalorian, she's becoming more of a well-rounded character as
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opposed to like a figure. Mmm.
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Yeah. And so we have to start thinking
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about these things. If we haven't been already, I
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think it's really interesting. It's fun to watch her character,
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develop, and now, like, seeing her in live action, especially
21:54
Pretty pretty badass watching. Katie said he's like bring it to
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life. Is fucking awesome.
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Yeah. It's I probably would like it
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less. If it was someone other than
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Katee Sackhoff. Yeah, I agree.
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How many out there have a crush on her?
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No matter. What.
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Gender you are. Raising hand.
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Yep. Yep.
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Hand raised love her. So pretty universally accepted
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that she's amazing. So it's just one of those people
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that like, is very captivating to watch her and even in like
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interviews, she's so interesting and I love Fashion.
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I love her glasses. I love everything.
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She's she's knowledgeable. She's fun.
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Yeah, enjoys the role, you know, I love anyone who enjoys, what
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they do because I don't know anything about that, but, you
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know, and their career, whatever.
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But something interesting that I brought up to you about the
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Mandalorian is when we see Satine Lounge, I'm sorry not
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Satine. Oops, when we see Bo lounging on
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her. Throne.
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Yes, couldn't help. But notice the almost immediate
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contrast of everything about her castle compared to satine's
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Castle. And I have pictures up to
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reference, if you type in Boca tan castle and you type in
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Satine kryze Castle, you're going to see the complete
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inverse of each other. And I don't know if it was on
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purpose, but I told you when I first, when I first saw this
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episode I just You know, Dan and grow grow, or walking down this
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concrete Castle hallway with small glass windows.
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Mmm, let's start there Satine. Well, okay, it's not her castle
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but it's the Centauri Royal Palace, right?
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Right. It is all windows with.
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Tiny metal pieces, keeping them together, so Satine, bright
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open, peaceful, Airy, sunlight. Okay, yeah, Satine closed off.
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Old. But Arc blow Jesus well not
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Jesus but bow. Bow is cold cement closed off
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very little light. Yeah, hard.
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Okay, yeah. You see what I'm what's
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happening here? That was the first thing then
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when I typed it in and looked if you look at the actual Throne
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seat and the steps that lead up to it, if you look at satine's
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thrown its steps, Leading up to a narrow column.
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Bose is a narrow column leading down to inverted stairs.
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So it's a V shape, which is the exact opposite of satine's which
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is like an a shape that's so interesting.
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I don't know why, but for some reason, it stuck out in my head
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is like, huh, they completely inverted.
24:44
Everything about satine's castle and made it bows Castle.
24:48
Yeah, that's so cool, though. I mean, and think about like the
24:52
the On the concrete that's like historic like history and old
24:56
tradition and Satine has glass. It's like modern Progressive.
25:01
Exactly. And so we have kind of the old
25:05
Mandalorian. Everybody fights.
25:07
Everybody's at War. Everybody about that.
25:09
Dada. Well yeah then we have the
25:12
peaceful Airy. Light Sunny New Way modern era
25:16
Satine. Yeah.
25:18
And both are blown up. So what difference does it make?
25:22
Like that's the thick. Like maybe the whole point is,
25:25
is being too extreme in either. Direction, is a problem again.
25:30
The theme of balance comes forward in a tale of Star Wars.
25:36
It's just, I was sad to see her castle.
25:39
Go because it looked like a magnificent place to watch the
25:42
ocean. God, I want you to live there,
25:44
man. That is like my Dream Castle.
25:47
I just, I would turn the heat up.
25:48
It seemed like a candle bow. See if I don't What the fuck is
25:53
she doing? All day long just sitting just
25:56
thinking about things. Yeah, just just thinking about
25:59
how she caused the fucking death of her sister.
26:01
I would close myself off to on a fucking Island somewhere.
26:06
I love to that she's supposed to be like sitting on Firs but
26:09
she's like still at her armor. The girl go put some pajamas on
26:12
relax, get a diffuser light, a candle take your helmet off, put
26:19
on a face mask, have some self-care and and just put the
26:22
past. In the past.
26:23
Yeah, God, she's always just lounging on that.
26:27
Damn, I mean shit, she look cool.
26:31
Doing it looks fucking great. But she literally, I thought it
26:34
was. I just thought it was really
26:35
funny. That she looked like she hadn't
26:37
moved in the time they grow going with dinner were there.
26:40
And then grow go comes back. It's like she is not getting up.
26:44
She's chill living in that chair.
26:47
She's she's my kind of get it. The Herald of Mandalore and your
26:55
and your entire family rests on your back and you lost the, the
26:59
darksaber to the dude, walking towards you.
27:03
Yeah, you know, I'd be a little. What do you want?
27:06
You know, like, like the ends Ellen, why do you want?
27:11
You know, when they're little Babu free?
27:14
Yes, was it Babu? I think so it was a somebody was
27:17
it Babu. Okay, so the Fabu is the real
27:19
MVP here. So So those are just some things
27:25
that stuff. I don't know why it stuck out to
27:26
me so obviously, but maybe it was meant to maybe it wasn't,
27:31
maybe it was purposeful. Maybe it wasn't.
27:33
I mean, it was just too much of a contrast.
27:36
Yeah, I noticed exactly. So if if you pay attention to
27:39
the Clone Wars anyways if you don't it's just another Castle.
27:42
You know? Right?
27:43
Exactly. But I said this too.
27:46
I noticed, right away? She's laying in the throne, like
27:51
mall was late. Institute's throne, and of user.
27:54
There's memes everywhere now. But well, you are not the only
27:58
one I got. I think to DMS on Twitter
28:01
saying, like, did you see the latest episode?
28:03
Would you think, did you notice she was lounging like Mall?
28:06
Yeah. And it was like yeah, Lauren
28:08
told me that. I didn't notice it.
28:09
But you did. And it's like one.
28:12
There's just too many similarities.
28:14
Yeah, I first I thought like mall was actually going to be
28:19
there for some reason. My brain was thinking did he
28:22
likes Sneak into both. Yeah, he always called me back.
28:32
Yeah, I don't know. I thought that was very
28:34
interesting. I want to see more of her castle
28:36
but now it's gone. But yeah, I know and so is the
28:40
other one so Satine and Bo are sisters.
28:45
I don't know how but they are, we have theories.
28:49
It would really be interesting to see Their childhood I would
28:54
be I would be interested to see Satine and Bows history.
28:58
Somehow here's my only caveat I want Obi-Wan's childhood first I
29:05
don't want to get bones to teens childhood before we get
29:07
Obi-Wan's. Yeah that's and that is my bias
29:10
showing I don't care though. Like for being one of the most
29:14
popular characters, Obi-Wan is still treated a bit like a side
29:18
character. Mmm.
29:20
And I don't get it and I don't even know.
29:22
Mean necessarily by the fandom. I feel like Star Wars has
29:26
ignored him until this year. Finally, they're making the Obi
29:30
Wan show, you know, and that was a big deal and I think they
29:33
finally realize how crazy people are about the character.
29:36
Totally, totally, yeah, they more intrigued with, with
29:42
Obi-Wan than there is an again, we know a lot about Anakin, we
29:44
know a lot about his childhood, we know about his end, we know
29:48
everything in between Obi-Wan is a little bit mysterious.
29:52
He had a relationship or did he? We don't even know and he had it
29:57
with Bogut ends. Fucking sister, who died because
30:00
of books. There's your wrap up.
30:04
Yeah, mean, he's kind of like, at the center of all their
30:07
drama, which is weird. Like, especially now that we're
30:10
in this big look at Mandalore, I was just re listening to of our
30:14
episode about Corky because I was kind of like, wanted to hear
30:17
it a little bit before we recorded and I'm you were
30:20
saying, like, why wouldn't Satine tell Obi-Wan and one of
30:25
my reasons was because she wanted to protect him from the
30:28
Jedi were like what if Corky was for sensitive, right?
30:31
And it's true. Then it just hit me.
30:34
Like having said all this fucking drama with the
30:36
mandalorians? What if 0 b 1 is the father of
30:40
Corky, he's half Mandalorian, half Jedi, that would be like,
30:44
the start of a whole. Can you imagine a bunch of
30:47
force-sensitive, the mandalorians?
30:49
No. No, this is a disaster.
30:52
Because she go that's the last thing we need right now.
30:58
Is that what growth isn't that? What grow goo is essentially
31:01
going to be half Mandalorian have Jedi I guess cuz I don't
31:07
know because didn't was adopted and it's not a born Mandalorian.
31:11
I don't know if you have to be. I mean for a group that takes
31:15
blood, very seriously, they sure will take Strays into so I don't
31:19
know. It's I Maybe this is all just to
31:24
rewrite. What Mandalore was into what
31:27
Mandalore needs to be, if it's going to survive.
31:30
What does the word mantle or even mean anymore?
31:32
Maybe maybe we're seeing what it means now play out.
31:36
I don't know. That's a good question.
31:38
One that we do not have an answer to yet, but if we know
31:41
Dave filoni, we will have one in about seven years.
31:47
Yes. See you then?
31:57
Next week, we are going to discuss the Mandalorian season
32:02
three. We think it ties in pretty good
32:04
to what we just talked about since we did a little bit with
32:06
chitchat about Mandalorian today.
32:08
We will discuss episodes. 1 2, 3, and possibly for of we yeah,
32:14
fit it in maybe four if we could see because in addition to our
32:17
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