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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Thoughts on all the Programming · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to sunday sunday
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  sunday night crossfit talk
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  it is me it is jamie
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  carolyn will be along in a
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  minute or two um yeah what
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  what you wearing I got the
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  jersey I don't know if you
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  can see over here let's see let's see
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  And there's the autograph.
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  Do you know what's crazy is
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  the Chicago Bears podcast
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  that I listen to, CHGO,
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  they have that exact jersey
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  on the table today,
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  flipped over on the back,
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  and he autographed that one too.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's like on their table,
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  their coffee table in front
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  of them as they're talking
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  about the Bears game today.
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  That's awesome.
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  So you got the jersey
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  because you beat Bajent.
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  Yeah.
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  And you were the fastest female to do so.
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  I'm good at a couple things.
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  Forty-one.
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  Yeah.
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  Are you forty-one yet or forty?
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  I'm forty-one.
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  Okay.
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  Wow.
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  Isn't that cool?
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  That is cool.
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  It's exciting.
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  Man, I hang out with some badass women.
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  The Bears look good today.
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  They sat all the starters.
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  The Dolphins did not.
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  Right.
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  So the fact the defense
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  stopped Tua with the second
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  stringers was really happy for me.
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  Yeah, good showing.
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  Not an exciting game to watch,
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  but it was fun to see.
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  I know.
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  I'm not going to wear it the
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  whole podcast.
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  I just wanted to wear it.
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  It's going to hang in the gym.
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  I just wanted to rub it in
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  Scott's face and wear it on
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  the beginning of the show.
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  You're going to put it up in the gym?
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  Yeah.
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  To see Jamie in a Bears jersey,
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  I couldn't pay enough to see this.
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  This just makes me so happy.
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  But Ken did say,
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  as a memorabilia collector and auctioneer,
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  you don't wear an authentic
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  autographed jersey, Miss Jamie.
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  Yeah, that's kind of a no-no.
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  But, hey.
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  There you go.
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  There it is.
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  We have Craig saying, really cool jersey.
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  Sweet jersey, Jamie.
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  Yeah, she earned it, man.
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  She earned it.
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  Can't just, yeah,
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  I'm jazzed to see her in a
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  jersey like that.
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  So, yeah.
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  Make America Healthy, again,
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  is a good jersey, too.
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  Or shirt, too.
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  There you go.
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  And we're going to talk
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  about stuff like that.
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  Was the Bears game on TV?
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  It was on the NFL Network.
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  And I'm sure they'll replay it all week.
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  Because the NFL network
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  doesn't have a lot of content.
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  So they just replay the games.
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  Tyson played the whole first half.
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  Looked good after the second drive.
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  He didn't get a lot of time
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  to hold that ball.
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  No.
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  no the the line that was bad
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  last year are the second
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  stringers he had to play
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  behind today um and all the
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  good ones we went and got
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  got the day off so yeah he
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  had he had to do that
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  they're forced to look good
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  with not the ideal
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  circumstances right so it's
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  like how much can you stand
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  out in these situations right yeah
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  Yeah, it was fun.
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  My wife's a Steeler fan.
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  We spent last night watching
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  them and then the Bears today.
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  So, yep, fun weekend of that.
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  Before we get into too much,
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  you guys have anything new
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  before we get into the CrossFit stuff?
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  We already had questions
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  waiting for us when we came in tonight.
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  So I'm going to go with Larry's first.
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  And we titled tonight like
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  looking at all the programming.
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  And so Larry said fan experience,
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  athlete experience,
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  stream and everything in
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  between is important.
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  But without rounded programming,
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  the test isn't legitimate.
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  So yeah, it's the most important.
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  We're going to get into that tonight.
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  And then Howie, five dollars.
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  Thank you so much.
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  Two questions for tonight, guys.
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  Does Hadfield need to humble himself,
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  have a shot at winning the games?
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  And I'll leave it at that.
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  I'll let you guys answer that.
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  He's a tough one for me in
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  that I don't know if he's.
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  Like sarcastic.
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  Yeah,
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  like playing a character almost like
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  like.
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  fake it till you make it.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know exactly.
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  Like,
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  I just don't know him and he's tough
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  to read and it's the same.
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  I've had that excellence,
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  like the same thing over and over.
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  So I just think he has like
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  one or two lines that he
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  likes to repeat and he's
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  just playing a role almost.
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  I mean, I'm sure he has some confidence.
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  Like you can't, you can't do that stuff,
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  run yourself in the ground
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  every day and not,
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  and not think you have some skills.
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  Um,
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  I don't see him as overly cocky anywhere.
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  I don't think he's bragging
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  like he's winning for sure
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  or anything like that.
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  And no one's even on the
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  same playing field as him.
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  I don't really see that coming from him.
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  So I don't think he needs to
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  necessarily humble himself.
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  I think he knows he's
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  competitive with those top athletes.
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  And depending on any given
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  programming or day, he could be on top.
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  And it just happened that that weekend,
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  he wasn't.
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  He was fifth or wherever he finished.
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  Which happens.
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  Yep.
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  So I believe that he isn't that cocky.
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  I believe that other people
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  are cocky for him.
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  And they've pushed him into
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  a spotlight that he hasn't
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  yet deserved to be in.
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  He hasn't had the
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  opportunities to podium or
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  to finish top five to then
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  say that you're going to
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  win the games and be as
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  dominant as Matt Frazier.
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  Yeah.
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  Like when that's being labeled on you,
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  he didn't make that label.
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  Someone else did.
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  Right.
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  And so now he has to wear
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  this crown that somebody else put on him.
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  Well, we, I mean, we've talked him up.
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  You and I said he was going to be great.
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  Right.
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  But I'd never said he was
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  going to be the most
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  dominant athlete in the sport.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  Like, can he compete?
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  Sure.
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  But this field right now with the men,
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  and we're going to talk
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  about this a little bit
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  later in Factor Fiction, like,
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  it is so good.
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  Like,
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  anybody's going to have a hard time
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  winning the games.
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  Yeah.
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  It's too good to have
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  someone bestow this crown on you.
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  And that's where I'll leave that.
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  And then the second part of
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  the question is brighter future.
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  Ricky Adler Roman.
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  I'll go first.
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  Jeff Adler.
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  One bad game doesn't make a downturn.
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  You don't know what he's dealing with.
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  He's more private than the other people.
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  And I feel like he's not one
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  that's going to put an
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  excuse out there for any injuries,
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  but you can tell he's not
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  at a hundred percent with
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  whatever he's dealing with
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  injury wise or body wise.
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  And he never wrote any
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  excuse in his post games
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  post or his post for the games.
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  And like, he'll get back to work and like,
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  there's no doubt in my mind that he can,
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  you know, if he's healthy, he's the guy.
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  When I think Roman,
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  it took too long to get into the country.
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  Uh,
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  so we missed his prime and that
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  shortened his window.
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  I think with Ricky,
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  he had to sit out four years.
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  So again,
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  a shorter window of what he could do.
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  Jeff put in the time he put
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  in the paid the dues and
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  he's never been an over-computer.
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  So I don't think like his
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  body has been beat up like others has.
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  So I would just, I would go with Adler.
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  You can't go by recency bias.
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  Right.
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  Ricky did look really good at the games,
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  though,
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  and had a really good year in terms of,
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  but he looked great at Torian as well.
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  So for a lot of people that considered him,
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  you know, washed up, you know,
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  he's showing that he's
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  right back in the mix of
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  things and competitive again.
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  And again, with this field, two bad events,
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  you fall down,
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  it's going to be a hard climb back up.
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  It just is.
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  Jamie?
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  I do.
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  I think Adler's probably the
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  most well-rounded out of
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  that group and has the higher ceiling.
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  All right.
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  Since that was a paid question,
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  I wanted to make sure we got to that.
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  Roman's washed.
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  Dude's having a ball out there, though.
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  Of all the male athletes,
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  the guy who was having the
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  most fun was Roman.
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  And I loved seeing that
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  version of Roman out on the floor.
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  He just was having a ball at the games.
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  He gets a lot of cheers, doesn't he?
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  Well,
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  and he was being goofy running out to
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  his lane.
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  He was doing stuff that made
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  the crowd almost fall in
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  love with him again.
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  He was just like a
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  twelve-year-old boy with
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  energy going out to his lane every time.
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  That's pretty awesome.
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  It's hard to not love that attitude.
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  Yeah.
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  You know what I mean?
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  I did find it interesting, just last thing,
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  that James said this
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  morning in his interview
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  with Siobhan that he thinks
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  maybe Jeff is running too much,
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  which I was surprised that
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  James said anything
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  But that maybe he's worked
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  on his running so much
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  after being the strong guy
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  that now he just needs to
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  bring the balance back in
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  the other direction.
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  That's an interesting take.
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  But if I look at Jeff,
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  Jeff would not win a max snatch event.
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  Just because he has some
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  strengths in certain things,
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  especially power cleans,
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  power cleans and jerks, stuff like that,
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  that he can cycle.
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  I don't think he always won
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  a max event all the time.
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  If you do a max snatch,
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  that's his worst lift, I believe so.
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  And I don't think that's a
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  lot of times people that
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  are Olympic lifters that
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  are really good are not
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  necessarily the best squatters.
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  And I think maybe the back
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  squat may have been one of
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  his weaker ones.
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  And then if he's dealing
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  with some sort of injury, like that could,
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  that could affect as well, um,
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  his placements there.
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  So it's hard to tell if he's
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  swung his fitness too much
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  on like the running spectrum.
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  If we don't see a healthy Jeff competing.
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  yeah yeah I agree yeah um
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  Trent Olive uh Dallin has
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  been running a lot too but
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  Dallin needs to run that's
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  that is a weakness of
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  Dallin's that he he is
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  trying to overcome Jeff has
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  overcome that weakness he's
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  the best runner in the
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  field now right I mean
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  Ricky and him on it
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  depending on the day they
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  are the two best runners in the field
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  Craig says,
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  James discussing the
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  differences between himself
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  and Colton's weaknesses and
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  strengths was cool.
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  And if you didn't hear it,
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  he was talking about how he
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  looks at it as it's a race.
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  Can he get the short guy
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  stuff down faster than the
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  short guy can get the tall stuff down?
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  Because that's the
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  difference in who wins and
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  a bit an event is can he get
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  better at the thrusters and
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  the handstand pushups
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  faster than Colton can get
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  better at the wall balls and the rower.
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  Yeah.
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  Rope climb box jumps.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  It was an interesting way to look at it.
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  Yeah.
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  I missed that part.
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  I didn't,
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  I caught like the tail end of his
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  interview with Savan.
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  So I, I definitely missed that part.
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  I'll have to go back and
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  watch the beginning.
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  That is interesting.
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  I trained all of think the
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  difference in programming
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  was a determinant detriment to Jeff.
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  Maybe he's not strong at classic CrossFit.
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  I think Jeff is strong at classic CrossFit,
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  but I think anybody can
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  have a bad weekend out of
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  the blue for no one.
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  He's won the open.
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  He's won quarterfinals.
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  Like that's classic CrossFit.
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  I mean,
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  there was just eight out of the ten
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  events for the boys is like
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  for Jason Hopper.
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  Eight out of his ten events
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  were sub eight and a half minutes.
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  That's crazy.
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  And, like,
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  I think some of the power output,
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  maybe he couldn't maybe get
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  it as much as some of those other guys.
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  But Jeff is amazing at classic CrossFit.
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  He's always been great.
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  Like,
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  you give him any workout in the open
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  or quarters that was in the box,
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  he's crushed that.
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  I still think there's some
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  sort of injury he's not disclosing.
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  And he did his best with
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  what he could do that weekend.
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  I agree.
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  With the programming, too.
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  Yeah.
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  All right.
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  So onto our rundown, I wanted to just,
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  it's been a week and I
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  wanted us all to kind of do this,
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  but I wanted to start with
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  Carolyn since she participated in it.
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  Just one last look back at
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  this year's CrossFit games,
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  just your feelings, your overall vibes,
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  things like that.
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  It's great to be back.
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  It went by really fast.
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  Three-day competition for
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  the games felt really short
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  compared to usual.
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  It was oftentimes four,
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  or it kind of dragged to even five.
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  sometimes because I could go
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  Thursday or like even Wednesday,
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  Thursday off.
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  And then like a Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
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  I think one year we went four in a row,
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  I think.
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  Um, so one by fast, um, I thought,
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  you know, just seeing,
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  seeing the athletes compete,
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  seeing the fans there, um,
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  interacting with people was great.
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  Um,
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  I thought that the community
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  that was there,
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  there wasn't that many fans,
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  if I'm being honest,
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  compared to the past years
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  that I've competed.
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  But the ones that were there
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  were passionate.
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  They were loud.
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  They were great.
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  I thought...
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  What about the venue?
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  The venue was fine.
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  We had a little bit of a
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  walk to go certain places.
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  It was nice to get a
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  secondary warmup area that
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  was nice and close.
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  Like for the back squat event,
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  I was expecting us to have
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  like a long corral time.
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  Like we were able to lift a
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  minute and a half before we
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  got onto the floor, which was,
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  So amazing how nice that
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  like they kept that window
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  down because like you don't
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  want to be going to do a
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  max back squat under
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  certain like ten minutes of resting.
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  So I thought that they were
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  really good with that.
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  We had briefings in the evening.
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  Sometimes the days were a
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  little bit long because
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  like you'd finish competing
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  and you want to go home,
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  but then you had the
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  briefing for all of the
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  next day's events go.
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  But that was OK.
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  My experience, I mean,
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  I did my best on the workouts given.
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  That's where I followed my
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  fitness with this group of athletes.
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  A couple workouts, I think, you know,
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  some mis-execution stuff
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  here and there where I
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  think I could have maybe performed better,
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  rested a little bit less.
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  But overall, I think...
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  proud of how I competed at
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  this stage in my career, too,
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  and just was happy for
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  another opportunity to be
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  on the floor with the best in the world.
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  Jamie, thoughts?
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  I mean,
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  it's nice to hear people's perspectives.
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  I'm always curious on the
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  warm-up situation,
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  walking from one venue to another.
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  Really nice to hear that you
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  guys got to warm up that
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  back squat all the way right up to it,
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  pretty much.
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  I think I personally
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  wouldn't have loved the walk from like,
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  I almost think even in Madison,
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  the corral from the one
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  building over to the,
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  to get to North park or both.
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  I mean,
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  you had to go over the ramp or
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  whatever the steps to get to the one.
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  I, it isn't, I don't think it's ideal.
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  I mean, being in a one building would be,
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  best but I mean yeah like
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  the warm-up area was
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  nothing like the size of
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  what we've seen in madison
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  and stuff but I didn't feel
• 18:40
  like we necessarily um
• 18:42
  clashed with like people
• 18:44
  using machines or warm-up
• 18:46
  space I felt like for the
• 18:48
  most part we were able to
• 18:50
  warm up at the pace that we
• 18:51
  wanted like the teams weren't there
• 18:54
  at the same time of us very
• 18:55
  often like overtaking all
• 18:56
  the equipment before like
• 18:57
  they had gone on like there
• 18:58
  was still a little bit of a
• 18:59
  rest time but like between
• 19:00
  that you still felt like
• 19:01
  you had your warm-up space
• 19:04
  even though the space was
• 19:05
  definitely much smaller
• 19:06
  than what we've seen in the
• 19:07
  past um but you did have
• 19:09
  two warm-up areas you had
• 19:11
  yeah like a primary and a
• 19:13
  secondary yeah and they'd
• 19:15
  bring us to the secondary
• 19:16
  one about a half hour forty
• 19:17
  five minutes before the event
• 19:21
  would be the one that was
• 19:21
  like right by the corral
• 19:23
  and then you go into the
• 19:24
  floor uh kenneth the lap
• 19:27
  the tiger woods pose after
• 19:29
  the wall balls I think that
• 19:30
  was after the pegboard it
• 19:31
  was the pegboard when you
• 19:32
  got that last the pegboard
• 19:33
  it still lives right in my
• 19:35
  head yeah I blew up on that
• 19:37
  one I I missed the pegboard
• 19:39
  at the top like I was at
• 19:40
  the top of the pegboard in
• 19:41
  the round of three it was
• 19:43
  doing really well at first
• 19:43
  and then once I missed that
• 19:45
  pegboard and fell back like
• 19:46
  I just started resting and
• 19:48
  then it was like my biceps
• 19:49
  had blown up and I was working
• 19:51
  way too hard so I was happy
• 19:52
  to get that last one right
• 19:54
  in time I was like please
• 19:55
  let's I hope this will make
• 19:56
  a difference in the workout
• 19:58
  um actually with the way
• 19:59
  the pegboard went with the
• 20:01
  later heats it did make a
• 20:03
  little bit of a factor for
• 20:04
  sure um in terms of my
• 20:05
  placing and and beating
• 20:08
  some people there yeah for
• 20:12
  me it was a weird week
• 20:13
  because I it was the
• 20:15
  earliest I'd ever gotten there
• 20:18
  And it was the latest it ever started.
• 20:21
  So like I was there to film
• 20:23
  with Hattie for a couple of days,
• 20:26
  but in the evenings,
• 20:27
  there really wasn't anything to do.
• 20:30
  So I ended up going to
• 20:31
  trivia night with Amanda Hari,
• 20:34
  which ended up being like
• 20:35
  one of the highlights of the week.
• 20:37
  Like we had so much fun and
• 20:39
  I want to turn it into like
• 20:41
  a media night out at the
• 20:42
  games where we like go do
• 20:44
  trivia night together.
• 20:46
  Cause everybody was jealous
• 20:47
  that they didn't come with us.
• 20:50
  Yeah.
• 20:51
  And but then once the game started,
• 20:55
  from the minute I walked onto the grounds,
• 20:58
  the vibe was just different
• 20:59
  than last year,
• 21:01
  even before the Lazar tragedy happened.
• 21:06
  it was just a different vibe altogether.
• 21:10
  And I know people were
• 21:11
  saying that Albany sucked
• 21:12
  and it wasn't a great host, but man,
• 21:15
  the minute you got on the
• 21:16
  grounds of the games,
• 21:18
  it was just a different vibe.
• 21:21
  And yeah,
• 21:22
  the crowds could have been bigger.
• 21:24
  It also was the biggest
• 21:25
  arena we've ever been in.
• 21:26
  So it's going to look smaller.
• 21:30
  regardless of how many
• 21:31
  people you get in there and
• 21:33
  and they need to do a
• 21:33
  better job at getting
• 21:34
  people in the in the doors
• 21:36
  and we're going to talk
• 21:36
  about that later but
• 21:39
  everybody I ran into
• 21:40
  everybody I talked to was
• 21:41
  so positive so so uplifting
• 21:45
  so energetic ready to go
• 21:47
  like it was it felt like
• 21:50
  back in like the two
• 21:51
  thousand seventeen eighteen
• 21:52
  years at the games
• 21:56
  And I really, really had a good time.
• 21:58
  And I don't want to lose
• 21:59
  that with everything going
• 22:02
  on because I think it was
• 22:03
  the first step to healing
• 22:04
  from last year and maybe a
• 22:07
  lack of focus in twenty
• 22:09
  three and twenty two and twenty one.
• 22:12
  I think we lost our focus.
• 22:17
  Having athlete or affiliate gatherings,
• 22:21
  having coaching gatherings
• 22:23
  at the games means something.
• 22:26
  And we can't forget that.
• 22:27
  Haven't they always done that?
• 22:32
  They have, but they weren't,
• 22:33
  they didn't do like the
• 22:34
  classes like they did this year.
• 22:37
  They had a gathered, like in Madison,
• 22:39
  they have a room called the
• 22:41
  affiliate gathering area
• 22:42
  where you can just go hang
• 22:43
  out and there's like hors
• 22:45
  d'oeuvres and stuff,
• 22:46
  but it's not like it wasn't
• 22:49
  a special coaching session for them.
• 22:54
  They have a general public
• 22:55
  coaching session at Madison
• 22:57
  out in vendor village,
• 22:59
  but this was just for the
• 23:00
  affiliate owners and the coaches,
• 23:04
  which I thought was cool.
• 23:08
  Um,
• 23:10
  and I thought that the amenities for
• 23:12
  the media were the best
• 23:13
  they've ever been.
• 23:14
  That's good.
• 23:19
  Now what that means, I don't know.
• 23:21
  Some people probably don't even care,
• 23:23
  but it was,
• 23:24
  we had a nice big room to like
• 23:26
  put our stuff in to, to work on stuff,
• 23:29
  to edit, to do stuff like that.
• 23:32
  Um,
• 23:33
  and I felt like CrossFit was the most
• 23:34
  accommodating to those who
• 23:37
  were supporting them,
• 23:38
  which was a really cool feeling.
• 23:42
  Um,
• 23:44
  And that's really just what
• 23:46
  I wanted to echo because I
• 23:47
  really do think it is a
• 23:49
  healing process from last year.
• 23:51
  And I want to keep this momentum going.
• 23:54
  And it scares me what I'm
• 23:55
  hearing out of the sale now
• 23:57
  that who the hell knows where it's going,
• 24:00
  which is not the thing I want to hear.
• 24:02
  I wanted to hear it was more
• 24:03
  like kind of funneled down
• 24:05
  to one direction.
• 24:07
  And now it looks like it's
• 24:09
  still up in the air in all
• 24:10
  different directions.
• 24:13
  Nightmare.
• 24:14
  I have one other question for Carolyn.
• 24:16
  Did you like,
• 24:18
  did you feel like was the
• 24:20
  appropriate number of athletes?
• 24:24
  Um, I think it's definitely better than.
• 24:27
  I think like, um,
• 24:32
  Yeah, I mean,
• 24:33
  I think twenty just gets to
• 24:34
  be a little bit too little sometimes.
• 24:37
  And I know people don't like
• 24:38
  to watch the first heat, but I mean,
• 24:40
  we're always like we were
• 24:41
  the guinea pigs all the
• 24:42
  time for other people to
• 24:43
  kind of watch and then they
• 24:45
  game plan and then they get
• 24:46
  to see times and everything.
• 24:47
  But I don't know.
• 24:48
  I still I still like to see
• 24:50
  at least thirty athletes
• 24:52
  play a role in some way or
• 24:54
  another in workouts to mix things up.
• 24:57
  Yeah, I mean, I think thirty was good.
• 25:00
  Yeah,
• 25:00
  I feel like the three heats was perfect.
• 25:07
  I almost would like to see,
• 25:08
  and I don't know if
• 25:09
  floor-wise it would work,
• 25:11
  heats of twelve and have
• 25:12
  thirty-six people.
• 25:13
  I think that would be ideal.
• 25:16
  Yeah, that would be interesting.
• 25:19
  Because I like the three heats.
• 25:20
  I think four gets to be too long.
• 25:22
  Three is just enough where I
• 25:25
  think there becomes...
• 25:28
  Like,
• 25:29
  people stay engaged for all of the heats.
• 25:31
  If it's only two or just one heat,
• 25:33
  it just goes by way too fast.
• 25:37
  Yeah.
• 25:38
  Yeah,
• 25:38
  I think three was the appropriate
• 25:39
  number for sure.
• 25:41
  Shay says, as a viewer,
• 25:42
  thirty was awesome.
• 25:44
  I watched every heat and was
• 25:45
  excited about the first heat too,
• 25:47
  honestly.
• 25:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 25:50
  Kenneth asked the question,
• 25:53
  what about the interaction
• 25:54
  with the public fans in the athlete area?
• 25:57
  Sounds weird and kind of not a rest area.
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 26:02
  So for people who don't know
• 26:03
  where the athlete area,
• 26:05
  athlete village was,
• 26:06
  there was an escalator that
• 26:08
  went above it to get to vendor village.
• 26:11
  So there were some fans
• 26:14
  yelling down to athletes
• 26:16
  below while they were
• 26:18
  trying to rest in between events.
• 26:21
  Did you encounter any of that, Carolyn?
• 26:24
  Not me personally,
• 26:25
  where I was sitting in the back.
• 26:27
  And I was away enough that I
• 26:30
  don't think I had anyone bother me.
• 26:33
  But I'm also not of the
• 26:34
  public image where I would get...
• 26:39
  you know,
• 26:39
  called upon by a bunch of people.
• 26:42
  But I thought it was fine.
• 26:43
  Like, like you don't,
• 26:46
  I get people want to stay
• 26:47
  to themselves too,
• 26:47
  like during the weekend and,
• 26:49
  and be all focused and things.
• 26:50
  But I mean,
• 26:51
  we don't get to do what we do
• 26:52
  without the fans being there.
• 26:55
  So while, you know,
• 26:57
  getting treatment or whatever,
• 26:58
  if you run into some fans
• 26:59
  that are waiting there, you know,
• 27:00
  just greeting them, saying hi,
• 27:01
  all of that.
• 27:03
  I think it's important to do.
• 27:06
  It didn't bother me.
• 27:10
  Patrick Clark, Carolyn,
• 27:11
  thanks for being so kind
• 27:13
  and helpful to the game's rookies,
• 27:15
  particularly Sierra.
• 27:18
  That's not right.
• 27:18
  Syria.
• 27:24
  Did she?
• 27:24
  Yeah, I guess so.
• 27:24
  She speaks pretty good English.
• 27:25
  She did the,
• 27:25
  I watched Taylor's video on her.
• 27:33
  They can barely manage showing athletes.
• 27:34
  That is true.
• 27:35
  Yeah.
• 27:35
  Fair point.
• 27:45
  With only three heats,
• 27:46
  there was someone you
• 27:46
  wanted to watch in all heats for me.
• 27:48
  Yeah.
• 27:50
  I do.
• 27:50
  I think three,
• 27:51
  I think three heats is spot on.
• 27:54
  I just, I don't know.
• 27:56
  My mind would just go as to
• 27:57
  thirty six as a ideal number.
• 28:02
  I think that would be cool.
• 28:03
  Also, I think that's a good point.
• 28:04
  Twelve.
• 28:07
  Yeah, again,
• 28:08
  I'm more about getting the
• 28:09
  right people there instead of the number.
• 28:14
  Yeah.
• 28:15
  But I did notice that the
• 28:18
  three kept it moving better
• 28:20
  throughout the day.
• 28:22
  Like, it was much easier to follow.
• 28:27
  Yeah.
• 28:28
  Twenty teams was perfect as well.
• 28:30
  I agree with that.
• 28:34
  Carolyn,
• 28:35
  you don't give yourself enough credit.
• 28:37
  F. She's our F girl.
• 28:41
  I got to have t-shirts.
• 28:47
  All right.
• 28:47
  In other news, CrossFit released this week,
• 28:51
  the new hybrid CrossFit L two.
• 28:54
  And it is a way to do your L
• 28:56
  two with a little bit of
• 28:58
  online and a little bit of in-person.
• 29:02
  So one day of online,
• 29:04
  one day of in-person L two
• 29:06
  is about coaching.
• 29:08
  You're never going to be
• 29:09
  able to remove all the
• 29:10
  in-person because a lot of
• 29:12
  it is about your tactile cues,
• 29:15
  your verbal cues,
• 29:16
  and being kind of judged
• 29:18
  and corrected on those by
• 29:21
  the seminar staff.
• 29:22
  So they have to keep it at
• 29:24
  least one full day.
• 29:26
  I wanted to get your
• 29:27
  thoughts as to offering it as a hybrid.
• 29:32
  Is it the same price?
• 29:34
  I believe so.
• 29:41
  I don't mind that you still
• 29:42
  give people the option to
• 29:43
  have the two days that
• 29:44
  you're not forcing it to be hybrid.
• 29:47
  Some of the content can be
• 29:48
  just read through like
• 29:50
  online material and like
• 29:53
  having a quiz or something like that.
• 29:55
  And then obviously the coaching part is
• 29:59
  the most valuable part of the level two.
• 30:01
  I love like I've taken the
• 30:02
  level two twice because one
• 30:05
  of them like expired and
• 30:06
  was going to expire.
• 30:07
  And like I love I love the
• 30:10
  level two and the coaching
• 30:12
  experience that's there and
• 30:13
  like meeting people like I
• 30:15
  would do the two day.
• 30:15
  But that's me.
• 30:18
  If people feel like they can
• 30:19
  just they just need the one day,
• 30:21
  then I think, you know,
• 30:23
  having more options for
• 30:24
  different people that have
• 30:25
  different schedules can be good.
• 30:28
  Yeah,
• 30:28
  I almost feel like for your first go
• 30:31
  of it,
• 30:32
  you shouldn't even probably have
• 30:34
  the option to do the hybrid.
• 30:37
  But I can totally see as a renewal,
• 30:40
  the appeal for that hybrid option.
• 30:46
  But it is about the in person coaching.
• 30:48
  And I feel like for your first first go,
• 30:51
  you should probably take
• 30:52
  the two day in person.
• 30:54
  what I like about the two
• 30:55
  day in person is like a lot
• 30:56
  of times you'll get
• 30:57
  coaching experience or coaching, um,
• 30:59
  on the first day.
• 31:00
  And then you go back and
• 31:02
  kind of review your
• 31:03
  material or maybe review
• 31:04
  like in your head,
• 31:05
  what they said so that you
• 31:06
  can reapply it the next day
• 31:07
  when you try again,
• 31:08
  maybe doing a different
• 31:09
  movement that you've taught,
• 31:10
  or you try again at the same movement.
• 31:12
  And I think allowing that
• 31:13
  time for reflection and
• 31:16
  studying of like how you
• 31:17
  can do better also is
• 31:19
  valuable to the coach to do
• 31:20
  like in a two day process.
• 31:23
  versus if the coaching was
• 31:25
  only done in one day where
• 31:26
  you get feedback and then
• 31:27
  you've got to reapply it right away, like,
• 31:29
  I don't know, an hour later.
• 31:31
  I don't think that there's –
• 31:33
  I think there's a missed
• 31:34
  opportunity for reflection
• 31:36
  and maybe learning from
• 31:38
  other people during the day.
• 31:42
  So here's my take,
• 31:43
  but I'm going to read Phil's thing first.
• 31:45
  It's good for people that
• 31:46
  work full-time and can't
• 31:47
  give up a full weekend.
• 31:50
  my thing is if you're going
• 31:51
  there for the one day,
• 31:54
  how hard is it to just add
• 31:55
  another day on to your L two?
• 31:57
  Um,
• 32:00
  that it doesn't seem to be taking a lot
• 32:02
  away from me, um, to have it hybrid.
• 32:06
  So I took my L one the first time,
• 32:09
  if fully in person,
• 32:11
  the second time I renewed
• 32:12
  it by doing the online,
• 32:14
  I felt that the second time
• 32:16
  was much harder.
• 32:17
  Hmm.
• 32:18
  One,
• 32:19
  you're doing all the movements on a
• 32:21
  Zoom call,
• 32:22
  trying to get corrected by a coach,
• 32:26
  and it's condensed into a
• 32:28
  four-hour period,
• 32:35
  which makes it very hard.
• 32:39
  And then it's a lot of material,
• 32:43
  kind of self-paced,
• 32:44
  and I'm just not good in
• 32:45
  those environments.
• 32:49
  So I'm going to lean more
• 32:51
  towards you in person for sure.
• 33:01
  I mean, I like our Andrew's comment here.
• 33:03
  Part of the uniqueness of
• 33:04
  the CrossFit seminars is
• 33:06
  that they are in person
• 33:07
  rather than online,
• 33:08
  like other certifications.
• 33:09
  And I agree with that,
• 33:10
  especially for the coaching
• 33:12
  for level two.
• 33:12
  But.
• 33:24
  All right, we're back.
• 33:28
  But yeah,
• 33:29
  I think anything to kind of bring
• 33:30
  more people together is a good thing.
• 33:33
  Yeah.
• 33:36
  So they also launched a new campaign,
• 33:39
  and I'm going to show that
• 33:40
  real quick here.
• 33:46
  It is that it's called
• 33:49
  CrossFit is the Cure.
• 33:51
  This is their social media.
• 33:53
  We hate to break it to you.
• 33:55
  There are no shortcuts, just hard work,
• 33:59
  CrossFit.
• 34:01
  And it goes deeper into
• 34:03
  CrossFit is the Cure.
• 34:05
  And I believe the only
• 34:07
  person that received the
• 34:08
  email was Carolyn.
• 34:09
  So I think it was just sent
• 34:10
  to affiliate owners.
• 34:13
  where they were given kits
• 34:16
  uh for social media um to
• 34:21
  use uh going forward and I
• 34:24
  think that's all that they
• 34:26
  had some other stuff up but
• 34:27
  it looks like they've taken
• 34:28
  those down and both
• 34:31
  crossfit and crossfit games
• 34:32
  posted those um those
• 34:35
  pictures with different
• 34:36
  athletes on on their um
• 34:38
  on the thing no on the email
• 34:39
  to the affiliate owners
• 34:41
  like it just said that
• 34:42
  tomorrow um they'll be like
• 34:45
  dropping some stuff and
• 34:47
  something about the media
• 34:48
  let me find my email um
• 34:52
  One of the most exciting
• 34:53
  things right now is that we
• 34:54
  are back telling the
• 34:55
  CrossFit story the way it
• 34:57
  deserves to be told through bold,
• 34:59
  engaging media.
• 35:01
  Over the past few months,
• 35:02
  we've fired up the media
• 35:03
  engines with Hear Their Stories,
• 35:06
  Drop-In Diaries, Road to the Games,
• 35:08
  and the education-driven Own Your...
• 35:12
  and the education-driven own
• 35:14
  your health campaign.
• 35:15
  Tomorrow we take the next
• 35:16
  big step with CrossFit is the cure.
• 35:19
  This one was built for you.
• 35:21
  So as in, I think the affiliate owners.
• 35:23
  We're putting a stake in the ground,
• 35:25
  reminding people who we are
• 35:27
  and that we never left.
• 35:30
  You'll receive campaign
• 35:31
  assets straight to your inbox,
• 35:33
  ready to use and share in
• 35:34
  whatever way fires up your community.
• 35:36
  In addition,
• 35:37
  we'll be investing to spread
• 35:39
  this message across screens with TV,
• 35:42
  social and YouTube campaigns.
• 35:45
  We are nothing without your passion, blah,
• 35:47
  blah, blah, blah.
• 35:47
  But yeah, let the momentum build or begin.
• 35:51
  So I thought that was an
• 35:52
  interesting email to receive today,
• 35:56
  which goes in line with like,
• 35:57
  I think Barbell Spin had
• 35:58
  posted something like August,
• 35:59
  and I guess that would be tomorrow.
• 36:02
  So whatever this new
• 36:03
  campaign might be what
• 36:04
  they're referring to.
• 36:09
  And then the caption on
• 36:10
  these is F the quick fix,
• 36:13
  CrossFit is the cure.
• 36:16
  I mean,
• 36:17
  I feel like this is what they
• 36:18
  needed to get back to.
• 36:19
  They were trying to push that, hey,
• 36:20
  we're for everybody.
• 36:21
  We're trying to dumb things down.
• 36:25
  And I worry that was not the
• 36:30
  route to take.
• 36:32
  It is hard.
• 36:34
  And you need to be willing
• 36:35
  to like really buckle down
• 36:39
  and want these changes or
• 36:41
  it's not going to work for you.
• 36:45
  And the email was from Jenna.
• 36:49
  Jody says,
• 36:50
  I hope affiliate owners take
• 36:52
  advantage and start posting more.
• 36:54
  None of the boxes around me
• 36:56
  do any consistent social
• 36:58
  media to grow their gym.
• 37:00
  I think what is more
• 37:01
  important to me is that,
• 37:02
  and I talked about it all
• 37:03
  week on my lunch show,
• 37:05
  about the North Star.
• 37:07
  There is a North Star that
• 37:09
  CrossFit has that others don't have,
• 37:12
  but they have not been
• 37:13
  pointing in that direction.
• 37:15
  Now they are again.
• 37:18
  And that was evident at the games.
• 37:20
  And now they're using this
• 37:22
  campaign in the week after
• 37:24
  the games to point at it even more.
• 37:28
  And that gives me hope.
• 37:30
  Yeah.
• 37:32
  I just hope the new owners
• 37:35
  take it in the right direction.
• 37:39
  The PAC says they went all
• 37:41
  went over all this at the
• 37:42
  coaches conference and
• 37:44
  Yeah,
• 37:44
  that's what they had at this year's
• 37:45
  games for ninety minutes.
• 37:47
  They are also going to run TV ads on ESPN.
• 37:50
  Nice.
• 37:54
  So it looks like lots of
• 37:55
  investment in terms of media,
• 37:56
  which has been I've seen a
• 37:58
  big difference this past year with,
• 38:00
  you know,
• 38:00
  obviously the road to the games
• 38:01
  and all of those different
• 38:03
  stories and content from CrossFit.
• 38:05
  So, yeah, looking to ride that momentum,
• 38:08
  especially from the games
• 38:09
  and and build upon that to
• 38:10
  kind of get the CrossFit community,
• 38:12
  you know,
• 38:13
  pushing all in here so that
• 38:18
  look for that in the coming
• 38:20
  weeks I'm anxious to see
• 38:22
  how that looks the look and
• 38:23
  feel of all that uh and
• 38:25
  excited to see what it
• 38:26
  looks like I wanted to get
• 38:29
  your your take on there's a
• 38:32
  rumor out there I don't
• 38:33
  have anything behind this
• 38:35
  other than athletes saying dave told them
• 38:40
  but that is that next year's
• 38:41
  games for the twentieth
• 38:42
  games are going to be back in Carson.
• 38:47
  I just wanted to get your thoughts.
• 38:49
  We don't know if it's true or not,
• 38:51
  but would you like the
• 38:52
  games to go back to Carson?
• 38:54
  You know my thoughts on California.
• 39:00
  But the audience doesn't.
• 39:03
  I think it'd be a miss.
• 39:04
  I think as much as people
• 39:06
  complained about Albany, the city,
• 39:10
  I think there's the same
• 39:11
  similar complaints about Carson, the city,
• 39:14
  for staying, lodging, everything.
• 39:19
  And I just think it's too expensive.
• 39:20
  It's cost prohibitive for
• 39:23
  people to get to California.
• 39:27
  I don't know why.
• 39:28
  I mean,
• 39:28
  I don't know why travel there is so
• 39:30
  much more expensive than other cities.
• 39:32
  airports but I don't know I
• 39:35
  think I think it'd be a
• 39:36
  mess I think they'd be let
• 39:37
  I think they think that it
• 39:38
  would bring all this
• 39:39
  nostalgia and they'd get a
• 39:40
  huge influx of tickets sold
• 39:42
  and I don't think they
• 39:42
  would I don't think it'd be
• 39:43
  much different than albany
• 39:47
  I think something more
• 39:47
  central like the midwest
• 39:49
  was perfect in madison um
• 39:52
  but something more central
• 39:53
  that is easy to get to um
• 39:56
  makes the most sense in my
• 39:58
  opinion um then carson
• 40:01
  but I could see why some
• 40:02
  people would want it to go back there.
• 40:04
  Columbus, Ohio.
• 40:09
  Yeah.
• 40:09
  Or Columbus.
• 40:10
  Yeah.
• 40:10
  I mean, I'm excited to see how this,
• 40:11
  the masters games go, you know, what the,
• 40:16
  what the hotel situation is like,
• 40:18
  how easy it is to get around food.
• 40:22
  Yeah.
• 40:22
  I mean, it,
• 40:23
  it might be the ideal location.
• 40:25
  I'm very curious.
• 40:26
  Like I said earlier to
• 40:28
  Carolyn about one hotel,
• 40:30
  building for like is this
• 40:32
  the right setup are we
• 40:33
  right where we need to be a
• 40:35
  private warm-up area
• 40:37
  walking right next next to
• 40:39
  the into the next room for
• 40:43
  our floor um I don't know
• 40:45
  I'm curious to see how it
• 40:46
  encompasses it's been fun
• 40:50
  because a lot of the
• 40:50
  masters athletes are dming
• 40:52
  me asking me about things
• 40:54
  around the venue
• 40:56
  Like, what are gyms I can use?
• 40:58
  What are meal prep companies I can use?
• 41:01
  And, like,
• 41:02
  those aren't things that I use a
• 41:03
  lot down around where the venue is.
• 41:07
  But there's, like,
• 41:08
  twenty meal prep companies in Columbus.
• 41:10
  Wow.
• 41:11
  There's, like,
• 41:13
  thirty CrossFit gyms in Columbus.
• 41:16
  There are tons of
• 41:18
  restaurants right around
• 41:20
  where the venue is.
• 41:21
  There are hotels out the wazoo.
• 41:24
  It is...
• 41:26
  Um,
• 41:27
  it's super crazy how much is available
• 41:30
  right there.
• 41:31
  And you are only probably
• 41:33
  five minutes from the rogue headquarters.
• 41:37
  I think that in itself,
• 41:39
  I'm surprised the rogue has,
• 41:41
  hasn't pushed for this so
• 41:43
  that they don't have the
• 41:44
  same like shipping costs
• 41:46
  and they could get cooler.
• 41:47
  Like any, I mean, just think some of the,
• 41:50
  some of like the snail or
• 41:51
  anything that they have,
• 41:52
  how much easier it'd be to
• 41:53
  get there and we could use that stuff.
• 41:57
  Yeah.
• 42:00
  I mean, it is literally right there,
• 42:02
  right down the street.
• 42:04
  What was up with all the, was it Atlanta?
• 42:07
  Was the background on all
• 42:10
  the like downtimes in between events?
• 42:15
  That's one of the rumors too.
• 42:17
  I don't,
• 42:17
  I don't put a lot of credence into
• 42:19
  that one.
• 42:22
  I don't even know if I,
• 42:22
  but I don't think I really
• 42:24
  believe the Carson one.
• 42:27
  I mean,
• 42:27
  I think they want to be able to do it.
• 42:30
  Whether it works out, who knows?
• 42:32
  I mean, I think they think the same thing.
• 42:34
  Like,
• 42:34
  that'd be really cool for the twentieth.
• 42:36
  I just,
• 42:37
  I don't know if it makes financial sense.
• 42:42
  I don't know.
• 42:44
  Do you know that for a fact
• 42:45
  Rogue is outfitting the Masters games?
• 42:46
  They did last year.
• 42:49
  I'm assuming they are,
• 42:50
  but even if they're not and
• 42:52
  you want to go buy stuff,
• 42:53
  it's right there.
• 42:54
  yeah I don't I'm not saying
• 42:56
  for us I'm saying I'm for
• 42:59
  if the individuals went
• 43:01
  there rogue being able to
• 43:04
  get like their specialized
• 43:05
  equipment over for
• 43:06
  individuals I think we're
• 43:07
  gonna have basic equipment
• 43:08
  whether it's rogue or
• 43:09
  whoever um I actually think
• 43:12
  bob and joe have a lot of
• 43:13
  their own equipment and
• 43:14
  have and stuff and some of
• 43:17
  that comes through but I do
• 43:18
  think rogue I think rogue
• 43:19
  is supplying some stuff
• 43:23
  I just love Madison.
• 43:25
  Like,
• 43:25
  I thought that was such a great
• 43:26
  location for the games.
• 43:28
  But somewhere like Chicago
• 43:29
  could be interesting, too,
• 43:30
  because that's very easy to get to.
• 43:33
  I don't know if the city's too big, but,
• 43:36
  you know, central.
• 43:38
  I think it's central.
• 43:39
  So what I'll tell you about Chicago,
• 43:41
  I actually ran a conference
• 43:43
  there with a group.
• 43:45
  It is so unionized in Chicago.
• 43:48
  Like you can't plug in a
• 43:49
  light without the union
• 43:51
  coming and doing it.
• 43:53
  Like it is crazy.
• 43:54
  And that ups the cost so much in Chicago.
• 44:01
  Yeah.
• 44:01
  But I also like the idea of Columbus too.
• 44:03
  I think that's a great college town too.
• 44:06
  Okay.
• 44:10
  I didn't get to go to WFP,
• 44:11
  but I would be curious what
• 44:14
  people thought of Indianapolis.
• 44:16
  Cause I I've heard nothing
• 44:17
  about good things about
• 44:18
  Indianapolis as a location
• 44:21
  for events in general.
• 44:23
  So I would be very curious
• 44:24
  about that location as well.
• 44:27
  It's, it's a, it's a conference capital.
• 44:32
  Like they're known for that.
• 44:34
  So
• 44:36
  But we'll get into other stuff.
• 44:40
  There was also an article this week.
• 44:42
  Our friend Tyler Watkins,
• 44:44
  love him to death,
• 44:46
  but he won't let P-score die,
• 44:48
  reworked the scores of the
• 44:50
  CrossFit Games and said
• 44:53
  that we didn't crown the
• 44:54
  right fittest man on earth.
• 44:57
  That it would have been
• 44:57
  Ricky in P-score instead of Jason Hopper.
• 45:01
  And Jason actually would
• 45:02
  have fell to fourth.
• 45:06
  That is insane to me.
• 45:07
  Yeah.
• 45:09
  We have never used P score
• 45:11
  in any event ever to put
• 45:13
  any credence into this as a
• 45:16
  valid score at this point,
• 45:18
  when the only competition
• 45:19
  that uses it is crash is insane.
• 45:23
  And if you know, it's P scoring,
• 45:25
  you're going to do the event differently.
• 45:27
  Right?
• 45:30
  Yeah.
• 45:31
  It's tough to go back and score events.
• 45:36
  post the event when athletes didn't know,
• 45:39
  because yes, you're right,
• 45:41
  things would happen different.
• 45:43
  I don't know what scoring that would be,
• 45:44
  Lex,
• 45:45
  but I want to see one that makes
• 45:47
  Carolyn number one.
• 45:49
  Forty-yard dash, broad jumps, agility.
• 45:54
  She didn't say new event.
• 45:55
  She said scoring.
• 45:56
  Oh.
• 45:58
  But, see, I like the idea of P scoring,
• 46:03
  but I still don't like it
• 46:04
  for CrossFit because I
• 46:05
  still think it favors specialists.
• 46:08
  And I think what CrossFit
• 46:09
  does very well is, like,
• 46:10
  you shouldn't be a
• 46:10
  specialist in anything.
• 46:12
  And, like, we make up these wads.
• 46:14
  Every competition,
• 46:15
  they're brand-new wads that
• 46:16
  we think this is the test of the fittest.
• 46:19
  It can literally be a snatch
• 46:21
  one weekend and a clean
• 46:22
  another weekend or a deadlift,
• 46:24
  like a long-distance run.
• 46:26
  We make up these tests,
• 46:28
  and then we're going to
• 46:29
  give a hundred points to
• 46:30
  some specialist in this workout.
• 46:33
  I don't know.
• 46:36
  I think it's about being
• 46:39
  well-rounded in all the
• 46:40
  tests in terms of your placement.
• 46:45
  I actually prefer the open
• 46:47
  scoring to be honest and I
• 46:48
  know that's not gonna um a
• 46:50
  lot of people won't like
• 46:51
  that but I think that that
• 46:52
  favors well-roundedness
• 46:54
  more than getting rewarded
• 46:56
  for a like a first place
• 47:01
  and then a last place and
• 47:02
  then two middles in our
• 47:04
  scoring the two middles are
• 47:05
  worse and I would say that
• 47:07
  someone that has a first
• 47:07
  and a last is not as well-rounded
• 47:10
  And the way that we score
• 47:11
  that person would be ahead
• 47:13
  because we're like, oh,
• 47:13
  you get a hundred points
• 47:14
  and like they're ahead.
• 47:16
  And that makes no sense to
• 47:17
  me in our sport of fitness.
• 47:20
  Like it should be about overall placement,
• 47:24
  but I get this,
• 47:25
  like how far behind were
• 47:27
  you in this test?
• 47:28
  So I, I, I get what the P score does.
• 47:32
  Um, but at the end of the day,
• 47:34
  we're just making up tests
• 47:35
  every year that are different.
• 47:37
  And we're saying that this
• 47:37
  is the test of the fittest.
• 47:38
  Yeah.
• 47:40
  And things can change every time.
• 47:45
  But San Diego Convention
• 47:46
  Center is really nice.
• 47:48
  An all-in-one long big
• 47:49
  building with lots of hotels around.
• 47:52
  If you're going nostalgia,
• 47:54
  I would almost be in more
• 47:55
  favor of Del Mar in San
• 47:57
  Diego than Carson.
• 48:01
  It's still not centralized.
• 48:03
  It's still probably more expensive.
• 48:06
  But at least San Diego is a
• 48:07
  nice place to go.
• 48:09
  The weather is beautiful year-round.
• 48:11
  And you're in the Del Mar Fairgrounds.
• 48:16
  It would be as nostalgic as Carson.
• 48:18
  Yeah.
• 48:23
  I heard if you say Peace Corps three times,
• 48:25
  Tyler appears.
• 48:28
  Peace Corps, Peace Corps, Peace Corps.
• 48:30
  Um,
• 48:30
  my Phil's comment here is my entire
• 48:33
  issue.
• 48:34
  I like P score,
• 48:35
  but prefer game scoring for the games.
• 48:36
  Programming matters a lot with P score.
• 48:38
  That's my entire issue with P score.
• 48:40
  Um, is the programming is so important.
• 48:45
  I don't think you can have a
• 48:47
  single modality event with P score.
• 48:50
  I think it's, I agree with that as well.
• 48:54
  Um,
• 48:55
  And, I mean,
• 48:56
  we saw it with Tyler talking
• 48:57
  about Colton's ridiculous squat.
• 49:00
  And that is the problem.
• 49:03
  Like,
• 49:03
  you would have to be very intentional
• 49:04
  with your programming,
• 49:05
  and everything would have
• 49:06
  to have MGW so that you
• 49:10
  were getting well-rounded people.
• 49:13
  Yeah.
• 49:15
  Yeah,
• 49:15
  because as soon as you do a single
• 49:16
  modality specialist test,
• 49:19
  people could steal so many points.
• 49:24
  And then ride on with that.
• 49:28
  And it can be decent and everything else,
• 49:29
  but they stole so many
• 49:30
  points in one event.
• 49:31
  And it just happened to be a
• 49:34
  back squat instead of a
• 49:35
  deadlift because two
• 49:36
  different people will do well.
• 49:39
  Just whatever we value that weekend,
• 49:41
  which is why it is a test of the fittest,
• 49:45
  but I just think at the end of the day,
• 49:47
  it's whoever wins that
• 49:48
  weekend of that test of what it is.
• 49:54
  And yes, it would not be viewer-friendly.
• 49:56
  It would be confusing.
• 49:58
  I think that if you're
• 49:59
  trying to bring on new
• 50:00
  viewers and you're trying
• 50:01
  to explain P-scoring on top
• 50:03
  of the other crazy stuff we
• 50:06
  have going on,
• 50:07
  You'll never get them involved.
• 50:09
  Plus we all like to try to
• 50:11
  do the math in our head at
• 50:13
  the end of an event and say, Ooh,
• 50:14
  this person moved from here to there.
• 50:18
  It would be impossible with Peace Corps.
• 50:25
  Yup.
• 50:25
  All right.
• 50:28
  Let's get into some factor fiction.
• 50:32
  Are we ready?
• 50:33
  We're ready.
• 50:36
  Factor fiction.
• 50:39
  The loss of festival tickets
• 50:41
  makes the games unaffordable.
• 50:46
  I'm going to say fiction to that.
• 50:51
  Sorry, I'm going to say fact.
• 50:52
  I agree.
• 50:53
  I was like, wait a second.
• 50:54
  No, I agree.
• 50:55
  It is way too expensive for
• 50:57
  the tickets at the CrossFit Games.
• 50:59
  You're paying four hundred
• 51:00
  dollars for the weekend.
• 51:03
  Like you want to bring a
• 51:04
  family and you want to get
• 51:05
  as many people in there is
• 51:07
  way too expensive.
• 51:09
  Um, like I, my family was like,
• 51:12
  I'm not going to go pay
• 51:13
  thousands of dollars.
• 51:14
  I'll watch you on YouTube.
• 51:15
  And I was like, well,
• 51:16
  you probably won't see me
• 51:16
  on YouTube because just the
• 51:19
  way our broadcast works, but, um,
• 51:22
  it's just way too expensive.
• 51:23
  Like you want as many people
• 51:24
  to see the show,
• 51:26
  as many people to fill the seats for the,
• 51:28
  for the venue to look great.
• 51:29
  And I just think it's too expensive.
• 51:31
  Like at least the festival
• 51:32
  tickets that were much
• 51:33
  cheaper or day passes that were cheap,
• 51:35
  you got to see a few of the
• 51:36
  events and then, you know,
• 51:39
  Then you have the Coliseum
• 51:40
  or whatever the MVP arena,
• 51:42
  but I still think whether
• 51:43
  you have a Festival ticket or not.
• 51:46
  I think the tickets are too expensive.
• 51:49
  I Think in a year like this
• 51:50
  year when you're trying to
• 51:51
  get more people it should
• 51:52
  have never been this
• 51:53
  expensive Get people in the
• 51:55
  door get people excited
• 51:56
  about the CrossFit Games
• 51:57
  fill up that arena Not
• 52:01
  empty like what it was for
• 52:03
  a lot of the weekend and
• 52:05
  yeah way too expensive.
• 52:06
  I
• 52:07
  It's like everything with
• 52:08
  CrossFit this year, just raising.
• 52:11
  It's same as affiliates.
• 52:13
  You don't jump the prices that much.
• 52:15
  You want people to get into the space.
• 52:18
  Quit raising prices.
• 52:24
  I'm going to go ahead and
• 52:26
  save mine for after this
• 52:27
  part of the question.
• 52:29
  Factor fiction,
• 52:30
  leaving the festival
• 52:31
  concept takes CrossFit
• 52:34
  further away from its North Star.
• 52:38
  I'm going to say back to this.
• 52:40
  That goes hand in hand with
• 52:41
  my thought process for the games.
• 52:44
  The festival style is, let's face it,
• 52:47
  a lot of these diehard fans
• 52:48
  that go to the CrossFit games,
• 52:51
  I know my first year that I went, I
• 52:55
  I wouldn't have wanted to
• 52:56
  spend two grand on a nice
• 52:59
  cushy seat and have my spot
• 53:01
  and be in an air conditioned room,
• 53:02
  just watching people work out.
• 53:03
  Like that's not what I went there for.
• 53:06
  And I don't want to sit on
• 53:07
  my butt for eight hours straight,
• 53:09
  four days in a row.
• 53:11
  I want to be walking around.
• 53:12
  I want to go do some workout.
• 53:14
  I need the festival experience.
• 53:15
  I need to be able to go work out.
• 53:17
  That's, I mean, I love the sport.
• 53:19
  I like to move.
• 53:20
  I want to go do some of this stuff.
• 53:22
  I don't want to just cushy
• 53:23
  seat in air conditioning.
• 53:26
  Yeah, I love the workouts,
• 53:28
  the little challenges in
• 53:29
  the vendor village, the big screen TVs,
• 53:32
  the beer tents,
• 53:34
  the community just chatting with food.
• 53:37
  There's a vibe to the
• 53:39
  CrossFit games that you
• 53:40
  just don't get as much when
• 53:41
  everything is indoors where
• 53:44
  you just have the vendor
• 53:45
  village and then you go
• 53:46
  back to your seat.
• 53:46
  There's just not as much to do.
• 53:52
  Here's my thing.
• 53:54
  It's the whole festival vibe.
• 53:57
  It's more than just the inside out events.
• 54:00
  It is about the campground.
• 54:03
  It's about the food trucks.
• 54:06
  It's about the big outdoor
• 54:08
  eating area where you can
• 54:09
  hang out with your friends and talk.
• 54:11
  It's about all the
• 54:12
  activations being done in
• 54:14
  the campground or at the
• 54:16
  vendor village or at a
• 54:19
  hotel down the street.
• 54:21
  It's going on all through the town,
• 54:24
  especially in Madison.
• 54:27
  And it's all over the place.
• 54:29
  And some of the coolest
• 54:29
  moments were sitting
• 54:31
  outside watching a big
• 54:33
  event in the Coliseum on
• 54:34
  the big screen with your friends,
• 54:37
  eating the food you just
• 54:38
  bought at the bowl truck down the street.
• 54:42
  And you're sitting there
• 54:42
  watching it on the big
• 54:43
  screen with everybody else.
• 54:46
  It was freaking phenomenal.
• 54:48
  And I do believe that,
• 54:49
  especially the campground,
• 54:51
  getting away from that has
• 54:53
  made us move away from our North Star.
• 54:59
  Yeah, that campground was a great idea.
• 55:01
  And then like running
• 55:02
  through the campground and
• 55:03
  some of the events,
• 55:03
  like it was like that Madison location,
• 55:06
  like where it's literally
• 55:07
  an empty parking lot
• 55:08
  normally there and has
• 55:09
  nothing and like how they
• 55:11
  transform that into the
• 55:13
  games and everything that
• 55:14
  we got to do there is.
• 55:16
  Yeah,
• 55:17
  that it's hard to it's hard to
• 55:19
  replicate that elsewhere in the country.
• 55:25
  Whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 55:25
  Jamie's riffing.
• 55:28
  I'm passionate about my working out.
• 55:31
  I missed all the little seminars.
• 55:33
  Well, and you know, that's part of it.
• 55:35
  Like I remember when you
• 55:36
  went with me the first time
• 55:38
  and you were looking for
• 55:39
  places to work out.
• 55:40
  Yeah.
• 55:41
  And then you came back with
• 55:42
  this awesome content,
• 55:43
  like working out with Shane or,
• 55:46
  and then interviewing them afterwards.
• 55:48
  Yeah.
• 55:49
  And then we had this content,
• 55:50
  like it was so cool.
• 55:55
  It's not a festival and at
• 55:57
  least have the RV park.
• 55:59
  Yep.
• 56:04
  Uh,
• 56:04
  when you're at an event for three to
• 56:06
  four days and have to have
• 56:08
  other things to do every league,
• 56:10
  all-star game, have festival weekend,
• 56:13
  super bowl week, et cetera.
• 56:15
  True.
• 56:18
  Yes.
• 56:18
  Jeff Paco.
• 56:19
  I thought community was a core concept.
• 56:23
  Was the food healthy?
• 56:24
  Most of it at Madison was pretty healthy.
• 56:28
  Yeah, there were healthier options.
• 56:31
  Your little, like, steak and rice bowl.
• 56:33
  Now,
• 56:34
  I don't think it was as healthy at
• 56:36
  Fort Worth or at MVP Arena.
• 56:38
  Yeah.
• 56:43
  Okay.
• 56:47
  we could copy madison and do
• 56:49
  it with a place that
• 56:50
  doesn't require building an
• 56:51
  entire stadium outside that
• 56:53
  works yeah like I felt like
• 56:56
  mvp or like it just like a
• 56:58
  three-day weekend it just
• 56:58
  felt like a large regional
• 57:01
  city yeah like it if it's
• 57:04
  the games but it felt like
• 57:05
  a bigger regional weekend
• 57:07
  than normal but not quite
• 57:10
  the showiness of the games
• 57:12
  the odd objects the cool like
• 57:15
  wow factor that we saw at
• 57:18
  the games just regular
• 57:20
  crossfit nine events or ten
• 57:22
  events whatever it was um
• 57:24
  weekend I do think the
• 57:28
  energy was better than a
• 57:29
  semi-final but probably the
• 57:32
  same as a regional victorian pro
• 57:37
  Well,
• 57:38
  like even the old regionals where
• 57:40
  local affiliates would all
• 57:41
  gather at that regional to
• 57:43
  cheer on their individual
• 57:44
  athletes and teams.
• 57:46
  Those had a lot of energy that we've lost.
• 57:56
  Um,
• 57:59
  CrossFit needs more outdoor events.
• 58:01
  Can't be inside climate
• 58:02
  controlled all the time.
• 58:04
  I was trying to take this
• 58:04
  away from just the
• 58:06
  programming aspect because
• 58:09
  you can argue that we had
• 58:11
  great races all weekend
• 58:12
  long this weekend and it was great.
• 58:16
  You can beg for the other stuff.
• 58:18
  Sure.
• 58:19
  But I think what we're
• 58:20
  missing is the festival as
• 58:22
  atmosphere with the outdoor
• 58:24
  events more so than the event itself.
• 58:38
  You're forgetting a major con for Madison.
• 58:41
  Hopper won't go back to Madison.
• 58:43
  He'll go to Madison.
• 58:44
  He'll figure it out.
• 58:45
  Yeah.
• 58:48
  His more is outdoors.
• 58:51
  Well, that should say something to you.
• 58:54
  It should.
• 58:55
  He hasn't been training for outdoors.
• 58:59
  All right.
• 58:59
  Next one.
• 59:02
  Fact or fiction,
• 59:04
  we will not have a
• 59:05
  back-to-back men's champion
• 59:07
  for at least five years.
• 59:12
  I think fiction.
• 59:14
  So I'm going to say fact,
• 59:16
  but I think it's so
• 59:18
  programming dependent that
• 59:21
  it's totally – I think it's
• 59:22
  possible to happen for sure.
• 59:26
  But because the races are so tight,
• 59:29
  I think it's unlikely.
• 59:30
  Okay.
• 59:33
  Yeah, I think it can happen.
• 59:35
  But like you said,
• 59:36
  it's program dependent always.
• 59:38
  Like it's very rare that we'll get another,
• 59:42
  you know, Matt Fraser, Rich,
• 59:45
  Tia on the men's side.
• 59:47
  Like someone that's just so, so dominant.
• 59:50
  But I think in five years
• 59:52
  someone can repeat.
• 59:56
  We had such a – look at the
• 1:00:00
  leaderboard from like first to seventh.
• 1:00:03
  I know it could have been anybody.
• 1:00:08
  My thing is it's going to be
• 1:00:09
  more unlikely to get a
• 1:00:10
  repeat than to get a new champion.
• 1:00:13
  And I'm not saying they're
• 1:00:14
  not going to repeat like spray.
• 1:00:16
  Couldn't come back next year and repeat.
• 1:00:18
  It's just,
• 1:00:19
  I think the back to back just by chance,
• 1:00:22
  because there's so many
• 1:00:23
  good athletes is not going to happen.
• 1:00:27
  Um, but, but then on the other,
• 1:00:29
  it could too,
• 1:00:31
  like could just fall right
• 1:00:32
  for that person two years in a row.
• 1:00:34
  Right.
• 1:00:35
  It's just going to be harder
• 1:00:37
  for that to happen.
• 1:00:38
  Then it's happened in the past.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  It's like a nineties.
• 1:00:43
  Ken Walter says it will be
• 1:00:44
  even longer than that.
• 1:00:45
  I like this one has more,
• 1:00:52
  more conflict between fact
• 1:00:55
  and fiction than the other two questions.
• 1:00:59
  Yeah.
• 1:00:59
  We have Kenneth with fiction.
• 1:01:02
  Craig with fact.
• 1:01:04
  Terry with fiction.
• 1:01:05
  Kat with fiction.
• 1:01:08
  ADL thinks Pepper is going to cross that.
• 1:01:12
  Five is tough fiction.
• 1:01:15
  Fact from Vicky.
• 1:01:17
  Fluffy fit fiction.
• 1:01:26
  what's what's the thing all
• 1:01:27
  the peppers he's saying
• 1:01:29
  dalen will well I thought
• 1:01:31
  it was somebody in between
• 1:01:32
  the peppers no it's green
• 1:01:34
  pepper and jalapeno pepper
• 1:01:35
  just pepper pepper pepper
• 1:01:36
  he hasn't even won one yet
• 1:01:41
  he's confident he's gonna
• 1:01:42
  do it uh there's a chance
• 1:01:50
  we lose any of the
• 1:01:51
  interrupted boys to dad
• 1:01:52
  mode within five years you don't lose men
• 1:01:57
  mean we lost julian we lost
• 1:02:02
  julian who's true when he
• 1:02:04
  made it to the game didn't
• 1:02:05
  go that year because in
• 1:02:07
  yeah he had qualified and
• 1:02:09
  then um he wasn't favored to win whatever
• 1:02:19
  The men's bodies aren't
• 1:02:21
  transforming like the female soul.
• 1:02:24
  Well,
• 1:02:25
  they all admitted that their spouses
• 1:02:27
  were critical in their placement.
• 1:02:30
  So if their spouse gets
• 1:02:32
  pregnant and isn't able to
• 1:02:35
  provide that role,
• 1:02:36
  it's going to be a little
• 1:02:38
  bit tougher road for them.
• 1:02:41
  You're probably right.
• 1:02:42
  All right.
• 1:02:45
  Last one.
• 1:02:50
  Fact or fiction,
• 1:02:51
  James not getting an invite
• 1:02:53
  to Tier Wadapalooza SoCal
• 1:02:55
  is a huge mistake.
• 1:02:59
  Criminal.
• 1:03:01
  Fact.
• 1:03:02
  Criminal.
• 1:03:02
  It's criminal.
• 1:03:05
  Fact.
• 1:03:06
  I think he should be there.
• 1:03:07
  Yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Like, I get he's not a tier athlete,
• 1:03:11
  right?
• 1:03:11
  No, he's not a tier athlete.
• 1:03:13
  And, again, they can invite who they want.
• 1:03:15
  But, like, he...
• 1:03:18
  won last year yeah he won
• 1:03:21
  the games last year his
• 1:03:22
  podium this year like he's
• 1:03:24
  one of the best north
• 1:03:26
  american guys right now by
• 1:03:29
  far so I think that it's
• 1:03:32
  interesting that he's not
• 1:03:32
  there and I think in terms
• 1:03:34
  of having those boys
• 1:03:35
  together I think just makes
• 1:03:36
  for a a good show so justin
• 1:03:43
  is invited he is not a tier athlete right
• 1:03:50
  James won the games while he
• 1:03:52
  was with tear.
• 1:03:58
  I think it's I think it's criminal.
• 1:04:00
  It is.
• 1:04:02
  Especially if it has to do
• 1:04:03
  with someone not liking his manager,
• 1:04:05
  like that comes down to being that petty.
• 1:04:06
  So he and Guy share the same manager.
• 1:04:10
  Okay.
• 1:04:12
  And Guy got an invite.
• 1:04:13
  Okay.
• 1:04:15
  So we can probably dispel that rumor.
• 1:04:20
  I I honestly think it's
• 1:04:21
  instagram followers james
• 1:04:24
  does not have a hundred
• 1:04:25
  thousand instagram
• 1:04:26
  followers everybody on the
• 1:04:28
  list does it's really
• 1:04:33
  between him and pat velmer
• 1:04:34
  I mean I think right
• 1:04:40
  because it's hopper justin
• 1:04:42
  dallin and velner on the american side
• 1:04:53
  Yeah.
• 1:04:53
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:04:54
  I mean, you know, I like Pat,
• 1:04:55
  but I think James should be there.
• 1:05:01
  James isn't one.
• 1:05:03
  Carolyn's right.
• 1:05:04
  The four of those boys
• 1:05:05
  together is going to be content gold.
• 1:05:08
  Right.
• 1:05:09
  Right.
• 1:05:10
  And I think as a whole, if you're tear,
• 1:05:13
  you're missing out on a huge opportunity.
• 1:05:18
  Because that
• 1:05:19
  behind-the-scenes content is
• 1:05:20
  going to be amazing.
• 1:05:24
  I missed it.
• 1:05:30
  At least Pat's rested.
• 1:05:32
  That is true.
• 1:05:35
  They're all going to be coming off of WFP,
• 1:05:38
  though.
• 1:05:38
  Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  I'm not sure which one of
• 1:05:43
  those boys will be competing.
• 1:05:44
  I think they all are.
• 1:05:49
  I'm interested.
• 1:05:49
  I'm interested to see Pat's
• 1:05:52
  rebound at this one versus his first WFP.
• 1:05:55
  Hope that he can put up a
• 1:05:59
  better better show.
• 1:06:01
  Yep.
• 1:06:04
  I'm also excited to see that.
• 1:06:10
  Which one doesn't fit?
• 1:06:12
  Hopper, Pepper, Madaris, Felner.
• 1:06:17
  I mean,
• 1:06:19
  madaris in that lineup to me
• 1:06:22
  the way my well you have
• 1:06:23
  belner spelled wrong but
• 1:06:26
  madaris doesn't fit if they
• 1:06:28
  were spelled correctly uh
• 1:06:31
  we have bigger spelling
• 1:06:32
  issues in that in this chat
• 1:06:34
  just so you know I know we
• 1:06:35
  do it stresses me out uh
• 1:06:40
  maybe dylan maliski really
• 1:06:43
  dislikes james religious
• 1:06:44
  talk I don't think that's it
• 1:06:47
  I think it comes down to
• 1:06:48
  Instagram followers and
• 1:06:50
  probably a long-term
• 1:06:51
  relationship with Pat
• 1:06:53
  Vellner and all of his wins
• 1:06:54
  at Waterpalooza and his
• 1:06:57
  long-term relationship with Tear.
• 1:07:00
  He's one of their oldest athletes.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah.
• 1:07:04
  Both literally and figuratively.
• 1:07:09
  That's probably what it is.
• 1:07:10
  It's probably something
• 1:07:11
  simple that we're trying to
• 1:07:12
  make a big mountain out of a molehill.
• 1:07:15
  but I think it would have
• 1:07:17
  been much cooler to have
• 1:07:19
  the four boys together and
• 1:07:22
  the content that and
• 1:07:23
  they're all legit
• 1:07:26
  contenders like if you're
• 1:07:28
  not putting them together
• 1:07:29
  just for the show you're
• 1:07:31
  putting them together
• 1:07:32
  because they're awesome and
• 1:07:34
  it would be a good show I mean yes
• 1:07:39
  Well, quite honestly,
• 1:07:40
  out of those four names, like,
• 1:07:41
  if you take one of them out,
• 1:07:43
  I still think James should be in.
• 1:07:44
  I would say Medeiros should not be in,
• 1:07:47
  and James should be in.
• 1:07:47
  Okay.
• 1:07:50
  Two-time champion,
• 1:07:52
  seventh at the Games this year.
• 1:07:55
  I mean, honestly,
• 1:07:56
  James has done more than Pepper,
• 1:07:57
  if I'm being honest.
• 1:07:58
  Like, he's been on the podium twice.
• 1:08:00
  Pepper's beaten twice at the Games.
• 1:08:02
  I mean, James has beat Pepper twice.
• 1:08:04
  Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Like, we're not counting Pepper out,
• 1:08:07
  like –
• 1:08:08
  James has done more than Dallin.
• 1:08:09
  Right.
• 1:08:10
  We've put Dallin on this
• 1:08:11
  higher pedestal the last couple years,
• 1:08:13
  but James has outperformed him.
• 1:08:14
  Yeah.
• 1:08:16
  Even at the WFP, right?
• 1:08:17
  Yep.
• 1:08:17
  Yeah.
• 1:08:17
  I mean, if you really want Pat there,
• 1:08:24
  I would probably get rid of
• 1:08:24
  one of the other boys.
• 1:08:26
  Because James won Wadapalooza.
• 1:08:28
  Right.
• 1:08:29
  James took second at WFP.
• 1:08:31
  Right.
• 1:08:31
  Andy took third at the games.
• 1:08:34
  Andy won the games last year.
• 1:08:36
  Like...
• 1:08:37
  kids had a hell of a year
• 1:08:38
  yep uh pat better show up
• 1:08:48
  at wfp or this ages like
• 1:08:50
  milk yeah all right well
• 1:08:57
  that's factor fiction for this week
• 1:09:00
  If you guys ever have a
• 1:09:03
  thing that you think should
• 1:09:04
  be in our factor fiction, send it to me.
• 1:09:07
  DM me.
• 1:09:09
  Good chance it'll make it up there.
• 1:09:11
  Trying to come up with four
• 1:09:12
  factor fiction every week
• 1:09:13
  is a lot of fun for me,
• 1:09:15
  but I'd love for some input.
• 1:09:18
  Just saying.
• 1:09:25
  So where are we at?
• 1:09:26
  Masters Games Workouts.
• 1:09:29
  This might be where we may
• 1:09:30
  save the WFP workouts for
• 1:09:32
  next week since we have a
• 1:09:33
  couple weeks on that one.
• 1:09:35
  It's probably where we're
• 1:09:36
  going to end tonight.
• 1:09:39
  If the chats between the
• 1:09:41
  four of us are any indication,
• 1:09:44
  this is going to take a minute.
• 1:09:47
  Well, I mean,
• 1:09:48
  we could wait until next week
• 1:09:49
  because we don't know them all,
• 1:09:51
  and it might be premature.
• 1:09:53
  We'll need next week to do the other ones.
• 1:09:57
  Well, maybe you do.
• 1:09:58
  Okay.
• 1:09:59
  Maybe we do WFP tonight and masters next.
• 1:10:02
  WFP is a week after.
• 1:10:03
  I don't, we don't,
• 1:10:05
  we know all the WFPs workouts.
• 1:10:06
  We don't know the mass,
• 1:10:07
  all the masters workouts.
• 1:10:08
  All right, here we go.
• 1:10:12
  Let's start with workout.
• 1:10:13
  Number one.
• 1:10:14
  I believe that our stats and
• 1:10:15
  information person,
• 1:10:16
  Holly Dugan posted a
• 1:10:18
  running course and the
• 1:10:20
  legends came back and said,
• 1:10:21
  that was fake news.
• 1:10:25
  uh not really not really
• 1:10:27
  fake news because right
• 1:10:30
  here we have a seven k run
• 1:10:33
  for time and look at that
• 1:10:36
  it's along the river right
• 1:10:38
  where holly said it was
• 1:10:39
  gonna be uh thoughts on a seven k run I i
• 1:10:55
  I think anything single
• 1:10:56
  modality is a mistake.
• 1:10:58
  As much as I love a run,
• 1:11:01
  I will be the first to shit
• 1:11:02
  on a lift and I will
• 1:11:04
  equally shit on a straight run.
• 1:11:09
  I think there's a lot of
• 1:11:13
  single modality things before a cut.
• 1:11:15
  There's only seven workouts before a cut.
• 1:11:18
  don't love the single
• 1:11:19
  modality test I think it
• 1:11:20
  just skews too much to
• 1:11:21
  specialists I just want to
• 1:11:22
  see a more well-roundedness
• 1:11:24
  um to an athlete than a
• 1:11:27
  specialized workout it's
• 1:11:31
  pretty long like I don't
• 1:11:32
  think we've seen many seven
• 1:11:33
  k's um in a lot of the
• 1:11:37
  process I feel like they
• 1:11:38
  tend to go to like a five k
• 1:11:39
  normally so it's a little
• 1:11:41
  bit longer than that um but
• 1:11:44
  single modality tests I just think
• 1:11:47
  skews the leaderboard too much.
• 1:11:51
  And especially when you have cuts,
• 1:11:53
  which I don't agree that
• 1:11:54
  cuts should happen.
• 1:11:55
  I've never been a proponent
• 1:11:56
  of cuts at all.
• 1:11:57
  Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  I just think there's not
• 1:12:01
  enough workouts to do
• 1:12:02
  something like this.
• 1:12:03
  Yes.
• 1:12:04
  There are eight workouts, right?
• 1:12:05
  There's only eight workouts.
• 1:12:07
  Over four days and eight workouts,
• 1:12:10
  two things being single modality,
• 1:12:12
  I think is a big mistake.
• 1:12:13
  If there was ten workouts...
• 1:12:16
  maybe I'd, maybe I'd give it to you or if,
• 1:12:19
  or if a couple of these
• 1:12:20
  were like a two parter on
• 1:12:22
  the floor with something
• 1:12:24
  into something else,
• 1:12:25
  both single modalities.
• 1:12:26
  Yeah, maybe, but eight workouts,
• 1:12:30
  not really like half of the
• 1:12:32
  field is getting seven workouts.
• 1:12:33
  You have to think about that.
• 1:12:34
  Half of the field is getting
• 1:12:35
  cut and you're giving two
• 1:12:38
  single modality tests right away.
• 1:12:41
  And I'll argue that another
• 1:12:43
  one is a single modality test as well.
• 1:12:45
  Correct.
• 1:12:48
  John George, this is dumb.
• 1:12:51
  CJ,
• 1:12:52
  single modality lift and run and four
• 1:12:54
  mixed tests.
• 1:12:58
  Yeah, that's not good programming.
• 1:13:01
  Not enough workouts to have
• 1:13:02
  single modality.
• 1:13:08
  When does the cut come?
• 1:13:10
  It comes right before the final event.
• 1:13:12
  saturday night is the cut
• 1:13:13
  yes and there's so there's
• 1:13:15
  two workouts thursday two
• 1:13:17
  workouts friday three
• 1:13:18
  workouts saturday and one
• 1:13:21
  workout on sunday which I
• 1:13:22
  also think is stupid you do
• 1:13:24
  a cut you do a cut for one
• 1:13:25
  workout like does the
• 1:13:27
  scoring change for one
• 1:13:28
  workout where that last
• 1:13:29
  workout is worth so many
• 1:13:30
  points or do you not adjust
• 1:13:32
  the scoring where now the
• 1:13:33
  last workout is worth barely nothing
• 1:13:35
  because your worst finish, let's say, is,
• 1:13:37
  like, fifteenth or whatever,
• 1:13:39
  however many you have in your division.
• 1:13:41
  Like,
• 1:13:41
  you're either making that workout be
• 1:13:42
  worth so much or so little.
• 1:13:44
  Right.
• 1:13:48
  And why are you making
• 1:13:48
  people stay for one day for one workout?
• 1:13:51
  Right.
• 1:13:51
  Like, at least,
• 1:13:54
  I hope there's a two-parter
• 1:13:55
  or something on that last day.
• 1:13:56
  Like,
• 1:13:56
  I just think one workout is... I
• 1:14:00
  guess that's possible.
• 1:14:02
  They ran out of barbells.
• 1:14:03
  Hmm.
• 1:14:07
  Now Caroline's riffing.
• 1:14:08
  Caroline's riffing.
• 1:14:09
  Let's go.
• 1:14:13
  That's absolutely asinine.
• 1:14:14
  All right.
• 1:14:20
  So then we have,
• 1:14:22
  we're just going to bounce all over.
• 1:14:25
  CJ asks,
• 1:14:26
  so if they throw a running in the
• 1:14:27
  middle of that run, it's better.
• 1:14:29
  I actually agree with that.
• 1:14:30
  I caught up to four people on the row.
• 1:14:33
  I think it's better than just a run.
• 1:14:35
  Yeah, I mean, yes,
• 1:14:38
  I think you should probably
• 1:14:39
  have something else in there.
• 1:14:41
  I actually thought I knew
• 1:14:42
  that was going to be nearly
• 1:14:44
  impossible to do.
• 1:14:45
  And with the way the permit was pulled,
• 1:14:46
  I was pretty certain that
• 1:14:47
  wasn't happening.
• 1:14:49
  But I think even like kind
• 1:14:52
  of what NorCal did,
• 1:14:52
  like a one K row buy in
• 1:14:55
  into a four mile run,
• 1:14:57
  like pre fatigue and make the one K run.
• 1:15:01
  a point scored point two.
• 1:15:02
  So people can choose if they
• 1:15:03
  want to like push really hard there.
• 1:15:05
  Um, something other than a straight run.
• 1:15:09
  I mean, they just did this at twenty two.
• 1:15:11
  So people that were in
• 1:15:12
  twenty two just ran five
• 1:15:14
  and some of the people are
• 1:15:15
  running five K that seven K
• 1:15:17
  six K or five K depending
• 1:15:18
  on your age group.
• 1:15:21
  But yeah.
• 1:15:24
  All right.
• 1:15:25
  So twenty five point two is
• 1:15:28
  a heavy legacy.
• 1:15:30
  Max clean and jerk.
• 1:15:33
  Twenty seconds to lift.
• 1:15:34
  Then you have to reset.
• 1:15:36
  Lift two.
• 1:15:37
  Lift three.
• 1:15:38
  Lift four.
• 1:15:39
  At least we get four lifts
• 1:15:40
  instead of three.
• 1:15:44
  So two single modalities.
• 1:15:46
  Thankfully,
• 1:15:47
  they're opposite end of the spectrum.
• 1:15:48
  So I think you'll probably
• 1:15:49
  end up with like.
• 1:15:52
  I mean, a mix at the end of that day, but.
• 1:15:56
  I just don't love it.
• 1:15:57
  I hate it.
• 1:15:59
  So Doug Reed, Jamie is a runner.
• 1:16:02
  Like she will kill the first event.
• 1:16:04
  So she's not saying that
• 1:16:06
  because it's bad for her.
• 1:16:08
  She's saying it because it
• 1:16:09
  doesn't make sense.
• 1:16:11
  Right.
• 1:16:11
  Cause I'm going to shit on
• 1:16:12
  the clean and jerk and I'm
• 1:16:13
  not going to be a hypocrite
• 1:16:14
  and shit and not shit on the run.
• 1:16:16
  I, yeah, I'm happy with the run event.
• 1:16:19
  I don't think it's right.
• 1:16:20
  I don't think it's
• 1:16:21
  applicable for the CrossFit
• 1:16:22
  for the masters CrossFit games,
• 1:16:24
  age group games.
• 1:16:25
  Yeah.
• 1:16:25
  I just don't think it's applicable.
• 1:16:29
  Not with the amount of tests.
• 1:16:32
  I think there's just a
• 1:16:33
  different way to test
• 1:16:34
  strength without going to
• 1:16:36
  resort into a one rep max always.
• 1:16:43
  Jamie wants CrossFit.
• 1:16:44
  One thousand percent.
• 1:16:46
  Me too.
• 1:16:46
  All right.
• 1:16:50
  Then we go.
• 1:16:50
  I don't think we don't have three, right?
• 1:16:52
  We don't know three and four,
• 1:16:53
  so we don't know anything on Friday.
• 1:16:56
  I can tell you what it's going to entail,
• 1:16:59
  though,
• 1:16:59
  pretty much based on what we have left.
• 1:17:01
  I mean, it's going to be rope, climb,
• 1:17:03
  pistol, GHD,
• 1:17:05
  sandbag carry probably is one
• 1:17:06
  of the workouts.
• 1:17:07
  And if I had to guess,
• 1:17:12
  like a wall walk thruster
• 1:17:13
  might be on the last day.
• 1:17:14
  So that would leave you with,
• 1:17:15
  I don't know.
• 1:17:21
  Let's get through what we have.
• 1:17:22
  Let's get through it before we jump ahead.
• 1:17:25
  CrossFit wants to know,
• 1:17:26
  can we stop calling every workout XX.XX?
• 1:17:29
  Yeah.
• 1:17:32
  Yes, please.
• 1:17:34
  They have names to their workouts.
• 1:17:35
  I know.
• 1:17:36
  So why put the twenty five point?
• 1:17:38
  Yeah.
• 1:17:38
  I confuse it with the other.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah.
• 1:17:41
  Yeah.
• 1:17:41
  All right.
• 1:17:45
  Four rounds, two minutes of work,
• 1:17:48
  one minute of rest.
• 1:17:50
  Rounds one, two, three, and four.
• 1:17:53
  Men, eighteen, seventeen, sixteen,
• 1:17:55
  fifteen.
• 1:17:56
  Women, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen,
• 1:17:58
  twelve.
• 1:17:59
  Of handstand push-ups, calorie echo bike,
• 1:18:02
  and then max double unders.
• 1:18:05
  Race to three hundred total.
• 1:18:07
  So if you get to three
• 1:18:08
  hundred on the second round, you're done.
• 1:18:10
  Correct.
• 1:18:11
  Which... You won't.
• 1:18:13
  No.
• 1:18:13
  Not on second, though.
• 1:18:14
  Just throwing the hypothetical out there.
• 1:18:18
  I think the handstand
• 1:18:19
  push-ups here for the
• 1:18:20
  thirty-five to however
• 1:18:22
  many... At least
• 1:18:25
  thirty-five to forty-nine, at least,
• 1:18:27
  is completely irrelevant.
• 1:18:28
  Correct.
• 1:18:29
  Like it's not that many, it's unbroken,
• 1:18:31
  it's fast, it's kipping.
• 1:18:34
  It comes down to your echo
• 1:18:35
  bike power output and then
• 1:18:37
  not tripping on any of the
• 1:18:38
  double unders and just like
• 1:18:39
  your cycle speed of the double under.
• 1:18:41
  I did this workout and I
• 1:18:42
  finished and I was like,
• 1:18:43
  I don't even know what
• 1:18:44
  we're testing here.
• 1:18:47
  Like I just did it and I was like, oh,
• 1:18:49
  like this is just going to be like,
• 1:18:51
  I just got to push that
• 1:18:52
  echo bike because that's...
• 1:18:54
  That's where it's won
• 1:18:55
  because you can't make up
• 1:18:56
  any time on your handstand
• 1:18:58
  pushup too much.
• 1:19:00
  And your cycle speed of your
• 1:19:01
  double unders is your cycle speed.
• 1:19:02
  You move up every every every fifty.
• 1:19:04
  So I guess it depends how
• 1:19:05
  like what the distance is
• 1:19:07
  for the for the double unders.
• 1:19:10
  But I think the the echo
• 1:19:11
  bike will be the the big thing here.
• 1:19:14
  Like I don't foresee any of
• 1:19:16
  the top challengers in the
• 1:19:18
  divisions having any
• 1:19:19
  difficulty with that volume
• 1:19:21
  of handstand pushups anyways.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah.
• 1:19:25
  Yeah.
• 1:19:25
  The handstand pushup does
• 1:19:27
  not balance the bike in this one.
• 1:19:29
  It needs to be double the,
• 1:19:31
  it needs to be double the
• 1:19:32
  handstand pushups or half the bike.
• 1:19:34
  So you could have done eighteen or,
• 1:19:36
  and yeah, strict,
• 1:19:37
  but you could have done
• 1:19:38
  eighteen handstand pushups,
• 1:19:39
  nine calorie bike, double unders.
• 1:19:42
  And then you're equal, pretty,
• 1:19:46
  pretty much a little more
• 1:19:47
  equal on time between the two movements.
• 1:19:48
  I just,
• 1:19:49
  I don't like that it favors the echo.
• 1:19:51
  I just think also, like,
• 1:19:53
  a guy doing eighteen cals
• 1:19:55
  to a girl doing fifteen
• 1:19:56
  cals on a sprint ecobike, like,
• 1:19:58
  the way that men can power an ecobike or,
• 1:20:02
  like, just an assault bike in general,
• 1:20:04
  like, even,
• 1:20:04
  I know they're doing more
• 1:20:05
  handstand pushups,
• 1:20:06
  but I still think that they
• 1:20:07
  are so much faster at the
• 1:20:10
  sprinting pace of an
• 1:20:12
  ecobike than what the
• 1:20:13
  females can output sometimes.
• 1:20:15
  But, yeah, I think short one,
• 1:20:19
  at least there's more than
• 1:20:20
  one movement here.
• 1:20:23
  It's a power output same
• 1:20:25
  athlete who finished high
• 1:20:25
  in the clean and jerk kills
• 1:20:27
  this just in my opinion.
• 1:20:28
  Yep.
• 1:20:31
  A cat says strict for sure.
• 1:20:34
  I just think with the
• 1:20:35
  camping in that few reps
• 1:20:37
  like you're well recovered
• 1:20:38
  in the minute like you're not.
• 1:20:43
  So clock says I love this program.
• 1:20:45
  We need more of it at other contests.
• 1:20:47
  Cross fat says is clock Bob or Joe.
• 1:20:55
  oh but I don't know in the
• 1:20:57
  other divisions if that
• 1:20:59
  gets challenging for the
• 1:21:00
  handstand push-ups I can
• 1:21:01
  only speak for I think the
• 1:21:03
  I would assume the division
• 1:21:06
  so yes and that would be my
• 1:21:08
  other complaint is the
• 1:21:10
  older age groups are not
• 1:21:14
  well accounted for there's
• 1:21:16
  been a lot of comments in
• 1:21:18
  our signal yeah of
• 1:21:22
  people already like what's
• 1:21:24
  the scale for this like so
• 1:21:26
  we're just gonna be
• 1:21:26
  standing there looking at
• 1:21:27
  the wall and yeah they're
• 1:21:31
  not they're you gotta think
• 1:21:34
  critically for these older
• 1:21:36
  age groups I mean I don't
• 1:21:40
  know you gotta I don't I
• 1:21:42
  don't know what you do but
• 1:21:43
  you for the first three
• 1:21:44
  rounds you do something
• 1:21:46
  different in the fourth
• 1:21:47
  round you do you do your
• 1:21:48
  handstand push-ups and then
• 1:21:49
  the people who have them
• 1:21:50
  have them and they can get further
• 1:21:54
  CrossFat,
• 1:21:54
  this one is presented by a
• 1:21:56
  programming company,
• 1:21:58
  but it was not programmed
• 1:21:59
  by that company.
• 1:22:01
  It was presented by Boulder Athlete.
• 1:22:09
  All right, so that's the fifth event.
• 1:22:12
  That's the third one on Saturday.
• 1:22:14
  Then we have the seventh event.
• 1:22:17
  Good old three minutes.
• 1:22:19
  Six is there, right?
• 1:22:20
  Yeah, you missed six.
• 1:22:21
  I missed six.
• 1:22:26
  order.
• 1:22:30
  All right, three am wrap three minutes.
• 1:22:34
  Three minutes.
• 1:22:34
  Yeah.
• 1:22:35
  Three axle bar deadlifts.
• 1:22:37
  at foot sled push.
• 1:22:40
  Another power output for you.
• 1:22:43
  I feel like the sled has to be light.
• 1:22:46
  Oh yeah, for sure.
• 1:22:47
  Because you have to make it like,
• 1:22:50
  if you're just pushing the
• 1:22:51
  sled the whole time and you
• 1:22:52
  do six deadlifts in the
• 1:22:53
  workouts or nine deadlifts,
• 1:22:54
  like what are we doing here?
• 1:22:56
  Right.
• 1:22:56
  Like it has to be a,
• 1:22:59
  a sled that you move fast.
• 1:23:01
  Right.
• 1:23:02
  Um,
• 1:23:03
  Like, I've seen people put, like,
• 1:23:06
  six forty-fives on their sleds.
• 1:23:07
  I'm like, if we're doing that, like,
• 1:23:09
  we may as well just do
• 1:23:10
  three minute AMRAP of max sled push.
• 1:23:13
  Because the deadlift means nothing.
• 1:23:15
  I still think the three
• 1:23:16
  deadlift means nothing.
• 1:23:17
  It's just an annoyance in the workout.
• 1:23:19
  I don't think it's that heavy.
• 1:23:22
  Like,
• 1:23:23
  three reps is easy for people to hold
• 1:23:25
  on to.
• 1:23:26
  You start putting five, six, seven,
• 1:23:28
  then people think about it
• 1:23:29
  more before picking up.
• 1:23:31
  I think three is...
• 1:23:34
  mean I do have a good
• 1:23:35
  deadlift but like I I think
• 1:23:38
  this is just a sled push
• 1:23:39
  workout capacity your legs
• 1:23:41
  are gonna be burning for
• 1:23:41
  sure oh yeah that's gonna
• 1:23:44
  be a rough one um lex asked
• 1:23:48
  earlier if rogue was
• 1:23:48
  outfitting presented by
• 1:23:50
  rogue so I'm assuming there
• 1:23:51
  we go john I'm not really
• 1:23:55
  talking about the fifty
• 1:23:56
  five plus I'm talking about
• 1:23:57
  the sixty five plus sixty
• 1:23:59
  five and the seventy plus
• 1:24:01
  since they're new the seventies
• 1:24:04
  I think they have gotten
• 1:24:05
  some skills at this point, but.
• 1:24:09
  Sleds just like make me a
• 1:24:12
  little bit nervous in a
• 1:24:13
  comp because it really like
• 1:24:15
  we've had good sled events
• 1:24:18
  and then we've had times
• 1:24:20
  where there's just faster lanes.
• 1:24:23
  Like there's just a lot with
• 1:24:24
  friction and sleds that we
• 1:24:26
  just saw in High Rocks.
• 1:24:27
  They had new turf, new mat, new turf,
• 1:24:29
  whatever they had and.
• 1:24:33
  I just hope that's not a big
• 1:24:34
  factor in the workout,
• 1:24:36
  and it can be pretty consistent.
• 1:24:37
  I just hope it's consistent.
• 1:24:39
  Yeah.
• 1:24:40
  But, yeah,
• 1:24:41
  they didn't post what the sled weight was,
• 1:24:43
  so I'm assuming they're
• 1:24:43
  going to wait until they
• 1:24:44
  get there and they kind of test it out.
• 1:24:47
  Like,
• 1:24:47
  I'm wondering if we have to turn the
• 1:24:49
  sled or if there's post on both sides.
• 1:24:50
  Like,
• 1:24:51
  all of those factors are going to be
• 1:24:52
  playing a role in your score,
• 1:24:57
  that's for sure.
• 1:24:59
  Larry Young, another power output for you.
• 1:25:02
  Yep.
• 1:25:05
  All right.
• 1:25:07
  Now we go to seven.
• 1:25:09
  This is the last event on
• 1:25:11
  Saturday night before the cuts.
• 1:25:14
  We have five rounds for time
• 1:25:16
  six ring muscle ups, nine overhead squats,
• 1:25:20
  twelve box jump overs.
• 1:25:23
  And it's thirty,
• 1:25:25
  thirty inches and twenty
• 1:25:26
  four for the box.
• 1:25:28
  And the overhead spots are
• 1:25:29
  one fifteen for my division
• 1:25:31
  for the females.
• 1:25:32
  For the men, is it one sixty five?
• 1:25:34
  I believe so.
• 1:25:36
  Yes.
• 1:25:37
  Not nine minute time cap.
• 1:25:40
  Yeah.
• 1:25:42
  Nine minutes.
• 1:25:43
  I don't foresee.
• 1:25:45
  I haven't tried this one yet.
• 1:25:46
  I don't think that many in a
• 1:25:52
  lot of the divisions will finish.
• 1:25:54
  Agreed.
• 1:25:54
  I think it's over-programmed
• 1:25:55
  for the time gap.
• 1:25:56
  And if their issue is
• 1:25:57
  because they're trying to
• 1:25:58
  cram three workouts in this day,
• 1:26:00
  then they should have made
• 1:26:00
  it lighter or normal box
• 1:26:02
  jumps and push the
• 1:26:03
  intensity on this workout
• 1:26:04
  to try to finish in nine minutes.
• 1:26:08
  I like the, like on paper,
• 1:26:09
  I like the workout.
• 1:26:10
  I like this workout.
• 1:26:11
  Like I like this workout.
• 1:26:13
  I do too,
• 1:26:13
  but everyone needs to finish it then.
• 1:26:16
  Because it's different if
• 1:26:17
  you know you're not finishing.
• 1:26:18
  Let's say you're pacing for
• 1:26:19
  four rounds versus five.
• 1:26:21
  Like it's just a different
• 1:26:21
  type of strategy you'll go for.
• 1:26:24
  Right.
• 1:26:24
  I'll do this one next or
• 1:26:26
  next upcoming week.
• 1:26:27
  I'll test it.
• 1:26:29
  But I had a friend test it
• 1:26:32
  at one twenty five on the
• 1:26:34
  overhead spots and didn't finish it.
• 1:26:36
  And it's a good competitor.
• 1:26:38
  Not in that Masters in the
• 1:26:40
  semifinal athlete,
• 1:26:41
  a semifinal competitor.
• 1:26:43
  Yeah,
• 1:26:44
  I haven't heard of anyone finishing it.
• 1:26:46
  That makes me curious.
• 1:26:48
  I'm sure at one fifteen she
• 1:26:49
  would finish it,
• 1:26:50
  but I think a nine minute
• 1:26:53
  time cap for all the divisions,
• 1:26:55
  you're not you're going to
• 1:26:59
  get one to three,
• 1:27:00
  one to four people maybe finish it?
• 1:27:02
  Yeah, it's over programmed.
• 1:27:04
  On the female side maybe?
• 1:27:06
  It's not over programmed,
• 1:27:08
  it's just the time cap I think is off.
• 1:27:11
  I think this is a good event.
• 1:27:13
  But I think the time cap
• 1:27:14
  event then make it on
• 1:27:16
  Sunday or like it shouldn't have fit.
• 1:27:18
  It shouldn't have gone here.
• 1:27:19
  If time is an issue, if time, if you,
• 1:27:22
  if you are limited by a
• 1:27:23
  nine minute time cap,
• 1:27:24
  then you have to program it for,
• 1:27:25
  and you have to program it
• 1:27:26
  for intensity and you have
• 1:27:28
  to make it a little lighter
• 1:27:30
  or you make it five ring muscles.
• 1:27:32
  I don't know.
• 1:27:32
  You do something.
• 1:27:33
  I mean, I, I like the workout,
• 1:27:35
  but if you're limited by time,
• 1:27:37
  then you got to program it correctly.
• 1:27:40
  Yeah, on paper,
• 1:27:42
  this is the nicest one that they have,
• 1:27:43
  for sure.
• 1:27:43
  Yeah.
• 1:27:45
  By far.
• 1:27:46
  John George, did they test this?
• 1:27:48
  Clearly not.
• 1:27:50
  Good workout,
• 1:27:51
  massive miss on the time cap.
• 1:27:53
  Cat should be a twelve minute cap.
• 1:27:54
  About what I was thinking, yep.
• 1:27:58
  Like, I think it's doable in eight minutes,
• 1:28:01
  but I just don't think many
• 1:28:02
  people have that capacity in this,
• 1:28:04
  like at the... I want to see, like,
• 1:28:12
  someone other than colton
• 1:28:13
  mertens finish this in
• 1:28:14
  eight minutes I I I will be
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  surprised if someone can
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  finish this like I'd like
• 1:28:18
  to see like taylor try it I
• 1:28:20
  I know the overhead squats
• 1:28:21
  would not be what he wants
• 1:28:23
  to do but he's so excellent
• 1:28:24
  at ring muscle upset I'd be
• 1:28:26
  curious um I don't know I think I just
• 1:28:33
  Basically programming a log
• 1:28:34
  jam scoring outcome of an MRAP.
• 1:28:37
  Exactly right.
• 1:28:37
  And the problem with this is
• 1:28:39
  everything is power output
• 1:28:41
  or strong biased.
• 1:28:43
  And you need the gymnastics
• 1:28:45
  in this one to balance out
• 1:28:47
  those other scores.
• 1:28:49
  And if people are getting
• 1:28:50
  stopped in round four or five,
• 1:28:51
  you don't get that last
• 1:28:53
  round where people are
• 1:28:54
  going to fall apart on
• 1:28:55
  gymnastics to level that back out.
• 1:29:09
  You have a monostructural,
• 1:29:11
  you have a weightlifting,
• 1:29:12
  you have gymnastics with two.
• 1:29:18
  I can't remember what they are.
• 1:29:19
  Anyway, so far, so balanced and varied.
• 1:29:22
  One long, one heavy, two medium,
• 1:29:24
  one short.
• 1:29:25
  So far,
• 1:29:26
  these are balanced by the standard
• 1:29:27
  of CrossFit programming and methodology.
• 1:29:30
  Thoughts on that context?
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  I think you also have to
• 1:29:34
  look at what the proofs of
• 1:29:35
  the workout is.
• 1:29:36
  Like there's some movements
• 1:29:37
  and workouts that are
• 1:29:38
  irrelevant that they're just like,
• 1:29:39
  you're touching it,
• 1:29:40
  but that's not where anyone's,
• 1:29:42
  there's no change of, of, um,
• 1:29:44
  of the race.
• 1:29:45
  There's no big factor there.
• 1:29:47
  Like those box jumps, I don't think are,
• 1:29:49
  um, but there's, but the step that like,
• 1:29:51
  you're not making up too much there.
• 1:29:54
  Um,
• 1:29:54
  the handstand pushups and the other one
• 1:29:56
  are not really relevant.
• 1:30:00
  CrossFat says not nuanced
• 1:30:01
  enough back and time kind
• 1:30:04
  of makes this timing wise odd.
• 1:30:07
  Right.
• 1:30:14
  Do the older divisions have
• 1:30:15
  front squats instead of overhead squats?
• 1:30:17
  Because I know that's a difficult movement,
• 1:30:20
  especially with the older age group.
• 1:30:23
  I didn't look if it was
• 1:30:26
  changed at all to maybe
• 1:30:28
  another type of squat.
• 1:30:32
  I don't think so.
• 1:30:33
  And I think other than the
• 1:30:35
  seventy web chest of our I
• 1:30:38
  think this is even ring loss helps for.
• 1:30:45
  Sixty five plus,
• 1:30:46
  I'd have to go into the
• 1:30:47
  competition corner to get
• 1:30:49
  cross that says drop the
• 1:30:51
  overs and this workouts better.
• 1:30:55
  I think it's fine.
• 1:30:56
  I like the box shop.
• 1:30:57
  I just think it just needs a
• 1:30:58
  little bit more time.
• 1:30:59
  I just think it wasn't
• 1:31:00
  tested for the group that's
• 1:31:02
  going to be taking the test.
• 1:31:03
  Because you want at least
• 1:31:06
  the third to finish in each division.
• 1:31:14
  Or at least you would think.
• 1:31:17
  Sixty plus to have front squat.
• 1:31:18
  That makes sense.
• 1:31:23
  so it looks like they did
• 1:31:25
  they may have gone in and
• 1:31:27
  they may have gotten enough
• 1:31:28
  feedback that they've gone
• 1:31:29
  looks like for sixty and
• 1:31:32
  sixty five they did
• 1:31:33
  chest-to-bar for the first
• 1:31:34
  three rounds and then ring
• 1:31:36
  muscle-ups in round four so
• 1:31:38
  they may have taken some
• 1:31:40
  criticism already and made
• 1:31:41
  some adjustments which
• 1:31:43
  that's the way it should be
• 1:31:49
  But a lot of movements left
• 1:31:51
  on their little page thing.
• 1:31:54
  And what do we have left?
• 1:31:55
  Three workouts?
• 1:31:56
  Yes.
• 1:31:57
  And I think eleven movements left.
• 1:31:59
  Yeah.
• 1:31:59
  If you, Scott, if you go to one,
• 1:32:02
  I think it should show
• 1:32:03
  everything that's crossed out.
• 1:32:05
  I think there's some
• 1:32:05
  interesting movements in there for this.
• 1:32:09
  I mean, you got GHD, rope climb, pistol,
• 1:32:13
  sandbag carry.
• 1:32:14
  To me,
• 1:32:15
  GHD and pistol stands out for the
• 1:32:17
  pastures.
• 1:32:18
  with row climb I would
• 1:32:20
  venture to say but I'm
• 1:32:22
  surprised to see ghd and
• 1:32:24
  pistols there oh you are
• 1:32:26
  yeah I'm surprised to see
• 1:32:27
  pistols there's been some
• 1:32:29
  chatter about that too like
• 1:32:30
  I love pistols like I grew
• 1:32:32
  up doing pistols with
• 1:32:33
  hockey but I'm surprised to
• 1:32:35
  see it there like we
• 1:32:35
  haven't been seeing it even
• 1:32:36
  that much with the regular
• 1:32:37
  um individuals so I'm
• 1:32:40
  surprised that that will like that that's
• 1:32:44
  movement there and I'm sure
• 1:32:45
  it'll get scaled to lunging
• 1:32:47
  or something like that but
• 1:32:48
  I don't know cross fat that
• 1:32:52
  was bar muscle ups last
• 1:32:54
  year not ring um so here's
• 1:33:02
  the movement list that you
• 1:33:03
  asked me to pull up jamie
• 1:33:04
  they have not taken off the
• 1:33:05
  ring muscle ups to overhead
• 1:33:06
  squats and the box jump overs yet
• 1:33:11
  oh well then maybe it's on
• 1:33:12
  workout um this is the
• 1:33:14
  latest release yeah they
• 1:33:16
  probably didn't remove it
• 1:33:17
  because they go on the set
• 1:33:19
  no wait yeah go into the
• 1:33:21
  ring muscle workout yeah so
• 1:33:25
  we have yeah they crossed
• 1:33:27
  more off there so that one
• 1:33:30
  you just take off the
• 1:33:30
  running as well right one two
• 1:33:36
  Yeah.
• 1:33:36
  Eleven more movements for three workouts,
• 1:33:38
  which I like because I mean,
• 1:33:40
  that means that you're going to have four,
• 1:33:42
  four and three.
• 1:33:45
  So so I'm guessing we're
• 1:33:48
  going to have more of like
• 1:33:49
  a twelve to fifteen minute
• 1:33:50
  workout on on Friday.
• 1:33:54
  I hope so.
• 1:33:55
  Yeah.
• 1:33:55
  It's missing that time domain right now.
• 1:33:56
  Yeah.
• 1:33:56
  Yeah.
• 1:33:58
  Because even the one that's
• 1:34:00
  like the two minutes on
• 1:34:01
  like they're small little
• 1:34:02
  sprints like it's short and
• 1:34:04
  nine is short.
• 1:34:06
  Yeah,
• 1:34:07
  there'll be some sort of chipper for
• 1:34:08
  sure.
• 1:34:12
  I'm cross that this was the
• 1:34:14
  next to last released the
• 1:34:15
  last release was running, but it,
• 1:34:18
  but it's chart isn't as up
• 1:34:19
  to date as this one is so
• 1:34:21
  running is off this list.
• 1:34:28
  You are allowed to jump off the box.
• 1:34:30
  That is a safety thing for
• 1:34:34
  shorter athletes.
• 1:34:35
  If you've ever watched Colton,
• 1:34:37
  how much that strains when
• 1:34:39
  he's forced to step down
• 1:34:41
  from a thirty because it's
• 1:34:42
  a thirty inch box.
• 1:34:44
  It's yeah,
• 1:34:45
  it's more dangerous to almost
• 1:34:46
  step down for a second.
• 1:34:48
  But you are not allowed to rebound.
• 1:34:49
  So if you choose to jump off
• 1:34:51
  that taller box,
• 1:34:51
  you need to stop and then jump back up.
• 1:34:54
  But it makes sense.
• 1:34:55
  I get what they were trying to do.
• 1:34:57
  Yeah, because that's difficult on the hips,
• 1:35:00
  right?
• 1:35:00
  It is.
• 1:35:01
  It's an awkward movement to
• 1:35:03
  not jump down from.
• 1:35:07
  Larry Young,
• 1:35:08
  four ninety nine super chat last year.
• 1:35:10
  The complaint was they
• 1:35:12
  didn't give older athletes
• 1:35:13
  tough gymnastics.
• 1:35:15
  I think what they're
• 1:35:15
  starting to do is it there
• 1:35:18
  for the older groups.
• 1:35:20
  The gymnastics starts less
• 1:35:23
  skilled and gets more
• 1:35:24
  skilled as you go through the workout.
• 1:35:27
  If it's long enough to allow that.
• 1:35:29
  Right.
• 1:35:30
  Yeah.
• 1:35:31
  Like you would have like the
• 1:35:31
  first two rounds would be chest to bars.
• 1:35:35
  Then you would go into.
• 1:35:37
  I don't know.
• 1:35:39
  Well, this one's ring muscle-up.
• 1:35:40
  Let's say the first three
• 1:35:41
  rounds are chest-to-bar,
• 1:35:42
  and the last two rounds are
• 1:35:43
  ring muscle-ups.
• 1:35:44
  Yeah, that's what this one is.
• 1:35:46
  And you decrease the reps of
• 1:35:47
  the ring muscle-ups to three.
• 1:35:50
  Yeah.
• 1:35:51
  So that you still allow
• 1:35:53
  those to shine while not
• 1:35:55
  having a bunch of athletes
• 1:35:57
  have a score of zero.
• 1:35:58
  Exactly.
• 1:35:59
  Because you still want to be
• 1:36:01
  able to challenge them and
• 1:36:02
  see what the division can
• 1:36:03
  do in a progressive way.
• 1:36:06
  Yep.
• 1:36:10
  For sure.
• 1:36:11
  Someone asked earlier if the
• 1:36:14
  three-minute workout would
• 1:36:15
  take less time than me
• 1:36:16
  setting up my media equipment.
• 1:36:19
  Yes, it will.
• 1:36:21
  But I still don't have any
• 1:36:23
  information about media for
• 1:36:25
  the CrossFit Games for Masters.
• 1:36:28
  So I might be there as a spectator.
• 1:36:33
  And if I am, so be it.
• 1:36:36
  I get to hang out with my people.
• 1:36:37
  I think they're just busy
• 1:36:38
  getting this stuff out this
• 1:36:39
  week that's their name it I
• 1:36:42
  don't know other media have
• 1:36:44
  received stuff oh really
• 1:36:46
  yeah so I don't know maybe
• 1:36:48
  I said something wrong who
• 1:36:52
  knows we're probably not
• 1:36:52
  helping you on the
• 1:36:53
  programming so sorry the
• 1:36:55
  three minute one's gonna be
• 1:36:55
  the most painful one though
• 1:36:57
  I think so far oh it's
• 1:36:58
  gonna hurt for sure that's
• 1:36:59
  good that's gonna hurt
• 1:37:00
  that's gonna be a tough one
• 1:37:02
  on the legs if it's
• 1:37:03
  I mean,
• 1:37:04
  it almost needs to be lighter so
• 1:37:05
  that you're like trying to
• 1:37:06
  run it because that's what blows you up.
• 1:37:08
  Well, yeah,
• 1:37:09
  it gets your heart rate up and
• 1:37:11
  it kind of offsets the
• 1:37:13
  seven K in terms of it's
• 1:37:14
  like a sprinty speed thing.
• 1:37:17
  Yeah,
• 1:37:17
  I guess without making people pull
• 1:37:19
  their hammies on a blown sprint.
• 1:37:22
  but yeah if it's going to be
• 1:37:24
  heavy where you're walking
• 1:37:25
  slowly and you don't get to
• 1:37:27
  do that many deadlifts then
• 1:37:29
  it's just kind of like what
• 1:37:30
  was the point of that so I
• 1:37:31
  agree you would think that
• 1:37:33
  it's somewhat light that
• 1:37:34
  you're running getting to
• 1:37:36
  the barbell moving you know
• 1:37:40
  having heavy legs pushing
• 1:37:41
  that sled yeah I just wish
• 1:37:43
  the deadlift had at least five reps
• 1:37:48
  Because I don't think three
• 1:37:50
  separates there.
• 1:37:51
  It just becomes... Like,
• 1:37:54
  what do you think?
• 1:37:54
  You don't like deadlift.
• 1:37:56
  Do you think three is that
• 1:37:57
  many on the squat?
• 1:38:03
  I just think a three-minute
• 1:38:04
  workout is stupid.
• 1:38:05
  We did a short workout last
• 1:38:07
  year that was... It's just dumb.
• 1:38:10
  With the overhead squat.
• 1:38:12
  That one was... That was a
• 1:38:14
  range of motion one.
• 1:38:15
  I remember watching that one last year.
• 1:38:16
  Yeah, it's...
• 1:38:18
  And I almost think,
• 1:38:20
  and I know it's only three,
• 1:38:21
  but I think there will be
• 1:38:23
  some questionable deadlifts.
• 1:38:28
  Crystal Hummer, my husband,
• 1:38:29
  did the three-minute one today.
• 1:38:31
  It was rough.
• 1:38:33
  Crystal, what did he use for the sled?
• 1:38:42
  Vicky wants to know who I pissed off.
• 1:38:46
  It just happens.
• 1:38:49
  I just think they're busy
• 1:38:50
  people are people are
• 1:38:51
  sensitive I just we just
• 1:38:53
  talk about things in a
• 1:38:54
  general way if you're going
• 1:38:58
  to be in the space you're
• 1:38:59
  going to be criticized it's
• 1:39:01
  just what people do I'm no
• 1:39:06
  stephen a smith or nick
• 1:39:10
  wright I'm just here having
• 1:39:13
  fun with my friends on a sunday night
• 1:39:17
  I don't know.
• 1:39:17
  It was, I mean,
• 1:39:18
  this seems to be trending
• 1:39:20
  towards a Bob and Joe programming.
• 1:39:26
  To me, it's a, it's a semifinals event,
• 1:39:31
  eight scores, power output.
• 1:39:34
  it's just like a semis for
• 1:39:36
  indies is what it looks like.
• 1:39:38
  It surprises me.
• 1:39:40
  I thought I was under the
• 1:39:41
  impression that HQ was
• 1:39:42
  going to review the programming.
• 1:39:44
  I'm I'd be curious what
• 1:39:46
  collaboration went on
• 1:39:47
  between pit and legends
• 1:39:49
  since it's all together.
• 1:39:50
  And I, I don't know if they,
• 1:39:52
  if some workouts were
• 1:39:54
  written by one person and
• 1:39:55
  some were written by another,
• 1:39:56
  but it seems to me like HQ
• 1:39:59
  didn't review any of these workouts.
• 1:40:01
  Um,
• 1:40:03
  And I, I, to me, I don't see, I,
• 1:40:07
  if I had to guess,
• 1:40:08
  I would say Pitt programmed
• 1:40:09
  the echo bike handstand pushup workout.
• 1:40:16
  Do you think that would be a
• 1:40:17
  better test if it was a
• 1:40:19
  more handstand pushups,
• 1:40:21
  then double unders,
• 1:40:22
  and then you finish on the bike?
• 1:40:25
  So that would be like last year's workout.
• 1:40:27
  a little bit yeah because
• 1:40:28
  you guys had chest to bars
• 1:40:30
  double unders chest to bars
• 1:40:31
  and then finish on the bike
• 1:40:32
  correct but make the
• 1:40:34
  gymnastics at least and the
• 1:40:36
  double unders like let's
• 1:40:37
  say it was I don't know a
• 1:40:38
  little bit more a little
• 1:40:40
  bit more double unders or a
• 1:40:43
  little bit more handstand
• 1:40:44
  push-ups then you do like
• 1:40:45
  seventy-five double unders
• 1:40:47
  into your bike or something
• 1:40:50
  I think would be
• 1:40:52
  A little bit more balanced.
• 1:40:53
  I just think it should have
• 1:40:54
  been a completely different
• 1:40:55
  test this year.
• 1:40:55
  I think they should have
• 1:40:56
  done something other than
• 1:41:00
  double unders and biking.
• 1:41:01
  We did an interval of double
• 1:41:03
  unders and biking last year.
• 1:41:05
  Let's test something different.
• 1:41:07
  I've never been a fan of ending...
• 1:41:11
  on the double unders like
• 1:41:13
  even there was a workout
• 1:41:14
  but at least they're moving
• 1:41:15
  up every fifty is that good
• 1:41:18
  though like I can see me
• 1:41:19
  tripping at forty eight
• 1:41:21
  having and then our yeah
• 1:41:22
  two have to move forward
• 1:41:24
  and then the time goes up
• 1:41:25
  like just let me go work
• 1:41:27
  for the thirty seconds that
• 1:41:28
  I have to work yeah I I
• 1:41:30
  don't love that but yeah I don't know um
• 1:41:37
  meredith jones says I like
• 1:41:38
  that there's a I like that
• 1:41:39
  there's a finish line at
• 1:41:40
  least like a number that
• 1:41:41
  you finish too versus
• 1:41:43
  you're kind of waiting to
• 1:41:44
  see where you are in the
• 1:41:45
  race um yeah but there are
• 1:41:51
  three three workouts left
• 1:41:52
  so hopefully there's some
• 1:41:54
  good stuff coming it's
• 1:41:55
  foolish you're such a
• 1:41:56
  spokesman for the masters I
• 1:41:58
  would argue there's no
• 1:41:59
  other show that talks about
• 1:42:00
  masters more than we talk about masters
• 1:42:04
  and we promote masters more
• 1:42:05
  than anybody else we go to
• 1:42:08
  masters events more than
• 1:42:09
  anybody else however that
• 1:42:12
  doesn't always mean you're not gonna get
• 1:42:17
  And I'll say it sucks.
• 1:42:18
  It sucks bad.
• 1:42:19
  Like,
• 1:42:20
  I hate that I have to beg and fight
• 1:42:22
  and claw for everything
• 1:42:24
  every year to get this.
• 1:42:26
  We put out an eleven episode
• 1:42:28
  behind the scenes of the
• 1:42:30
  Masters CrossFit Games last year.
• 1:42:32
  That should be proof enough
• 1:42:33
  alone that we are there to work.
• 1:42:36
  We are there to put together
• 1:42:37
  a product and we are there
• 1:42:39
  to do something that the
• 1:42:41
  Masters never get from anybody else.
• 1:42:44
  And yet every year we fight
• 1:42:46
  and we fight and we fight.
• 1:42:51
  Yeah.
• 1:42:51
  And it's really getting old.
• 1:42:57
  So I go comment on the post and say,
• 1:43:00
  look forward to seeing
• 1:43:01
  Clydesdale media coverage at the event.
• 1:43:07
  either way I'll be there
• 1:43:08
  like my friends are
• 1:43:08
  competing like all the
• 1:43:10
  people in the chat that I
• 1:43:11
  love to hang out with
• 1:43:13
  they're going to be there
• 1:43:13
  competing and I'll be there
• 1:43:15
  rooting them all on and
• 1:43:17
  I'll get content for them
• 1:43:19
  uh from the stance if
• 1:43:21
  that's what I have to do so
• 1:43:25
  right now we're missing two
• 1:43:27
  workouts before the cut and
• 1:43:28
  then the final the finale correct
• 1:43:31
  But all of Friday's workouts were missing.
• 1:43:34
  Yeah, all of Friday's workouts.
• 1:43:35
  And Larry,
• 1:43:35
  it's not that I don't like that.
• 1:43:37
  I just don't like where
• 1:43:37
  they're placed in the workout.
• 1:43:41
  I think it puts a lot of
• 1:43:41
  pressure sometimes like on
• 1:43:42
  the judge counting correctly as well.
• 1:43:48
  Just like a few factors there.
• 1:43:50
  But it is what it is.
• 1:43:52
  It's the workouts and
• 1:43:53
  they're not going to change.
• 1:43:55
  And we do our best with them.
• 1:43:59
  I just think like when I did it,
• 1:44:01
  I was like, I finished and I was like,
• 1:44:04
  I don't know that this was that like,
• 1:44:08
  I don't know what we're testing for here.
• 1:44:11
  As I told you guys,
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  talking about the Masters programming,
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  I knew we were going to go
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  long and we would not have
• 1:44:17
  time to hit WFP, which we did not.
• 1:44:19
  So we will touch on that
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  either next week or the week after.
• 1:44:23
  Still got a couple weeks for WFP.
• 1:44:25
  And so we'll talk about that
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  programming then.
• 1:44:27
  And hopefully we'll have at least,
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  my guess is you're not
• 1:44:30
  going to know the finale
• 1:44:31
  until the weekend of,
• 1:44:34
  but we may have the other
• 1:44:35
  two by next week.
• 1:44:38
  And we'll probably touch on those.
• 1:44:39
  We are supposed to have
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  everything by the fifteenth.
• 1:44:42
  I don't know if that includes the finale,
• 1:44:43
  to be honest.
• 1:44:44
  That might be reserved to
• 1:44:46
  release after the cut.
• 1:44:48
  But we should have Friday's
• 1:44:50
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• 1:44:57
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