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- [00:00:00] Adam: So what happened is I get this child down on the table. I do a couple different eye movement tracking to test muscles that are related to the neurological functioning of that. Boom, I hit his, uh, occiput on the left side, and then his atlas, which is the first cervical vertebrae, I hit on the right side. [00:00:17] Adam: And then I also had to adjust, like, some basic other things just to make sure everything else was balanced, like ankles and hips and stuff like that. Maybe three sessions later, he was, like, 100%, but, like, he was significantly better after that. So from before when he was just twitching on this left arm, completely stable right afterwards. [00:00:34] Voiceover: Welcome to Intimate Conversations with Men about life, love and sex. The conversations you're about to hear don't happen often. Not in boardrooms, not in locker rooms, rarely anywhere. Elena Sofia Ruiz has invested 37 years studying how individuals think, operate, connect, and how they are mentally built. [00:00:52] Voiceover: And she has a rare gift for creating the kind of space where men actually go there. Relationships, health, emotional intimacy, personal growth, real talk from the male perspective. So settle in. This one goes deep. [00:01:05] Elena: Thank you for joining once again to Intimate Conversations with Men. In this podcast, we bring information, we bring some stories, but today we have a special guest. [00:01:20] Elena: You know, the kind of guest that you want to feel hands-on. Yeah, he's a doctor. Not just a doctor. Let me read a little bit about what and who he is. He's originally from Lexington, Massachusetts. He completed his undergraduate education at Syracuse University, earning his Bachelor of Science in Health and Exercise Science Kinesiology in 2008. [00:01:50] Elena: Following his undergraduate education, Dr. McBride, Adam McBride, received his Doctorate in Chiropractor, DC, from Life University in 2015. In addition to his formal education, he has worked extensively in various areas of professional fitness, training, physical therapy, and has also had educational experiences in several hospitals, clinics, including cardiology and orthopedics. [00:02:19] Elena: Dr. McBride utilizes various approaches in his treatment, many of which have a basis in applied kinesiology. These approaches focus on finding out what the root cause or causes exist in patients that contribute to their various dysfunction from a structural, biochemical, and emotional perspective. [00:02:47] Elena: Dr. McBride also emphasizes patient education on how to make effective changes to improve their balance of health optimal recovery. This might be including, but not limited to exercise, dietary changes, dietary supplements, emotional health- Hmm ... stability, and many others. In addition, Dr. McBride is also constantly working, we can tell, to improve his own skill set by participating in numerous in-continuing education courses through the year. [00:03:25] Elena: Also, in his personal time, Dr. McBride likes to keep active practicing martial arts, weight training, surfing at the beautiful Southern California beaches, hiking, reading, and he has completed... competed, pardon me, in bodybuilding. Please help me welcome Dr. Adam McBride. [00:03:53] Adam: Thank you so much for being... letting me be here with you today. [00:03:56] Elena: Adam. [00:03:57] Adam: Yes. [00:03:57] Elena: It's amazing. You do everything. All right. So how do you choose when you have a patient coming to you How do you choose which, uh, tool to use? You have a lot of tools under your belt. [00:04:10] Adam: Yes. Yes. [00:04:11] Elena: How do you know which is the right tool to that specific patient? [00:04:14] Adam: So the most important part about any patient is their personal health history. [00:04:19] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:04:19] Adam: So when somebody comes in saying, "This is my complaint," lower back pain, let's say, in this kind of case. Okay, take me through. What happened? So I get an understanding of either it's an acute injury, where it just happened, or a chronic, where it's been a lingering pain for a l- long amount of time. So from that perspective, we basically understand, like, what factors of their work have been contributing to it, whether they've been sitting in poor ergonomics or- [00:04:44] Elena: Mm [00:04:44] Adam: working in poor ergonomics. [00:04:46] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:04:46] Adam: Or maybe they have been poorly training at the gym or in exercise. Maybe they have poor footwear. So that's just a structural angle of things. If we see that there's a biochemical angle, there could be some gut disturbance that they might be having. So typically, if I see a person with, like, lower back pain, they could potentially be having some sort of large intestine or small intestine issue, or even potentially, like, a kidney issue. [00:05:09] Adam: And this could relate to different muscles that correlate to those same nerve levels of the spine that innervate those particular organ systems as well. So the fact is, is that if somebody's been very dehydrated, sure, it could be a potential cause of lower back pain. Maybe they're on medications. Well, this could be affecting essentially, like, how different aspects of inflammation processes are functioning in their body. [00:05:33] Adam: If it's something that's only occurring during certain times of the day or it's only occurring when just a certain situation comes up, there could be potentially an emotional aspect that's affecting them 'cause... And I ask this to most of my female patients 'cause they seem to get it a little bit more. [00:05:48] Adam: Is it possible to have a structural pain that can be manifested from an emotional perspective? Fair, right? [00:05:56] Elena: Yeah. [00:05:56] Adam: Yeah. So in that kind of case, there's different techniques that we can go into in my office that have a basis in applied kinesiology, as well as this one technique that was actually based out of chiros that originally through Dr. Deborah and Dr. Scott Walker called Neuro Emotional Technique, or NET. And it's been practiced since 1988, and then actually getting a lot of good research right now through, I believe, Thomas Jefferson University, using functional MRI studies to actually understand parts of the brain that are lit up on certain aspects that actually show a differentiation of how they can actually be regulated after an NET session and how these patients can respond to the care. [00:06:37] Adam: So it's pretty, really fascinating. It's actually really fascinating about how these kinds of different, um, techniques and tools are being used nowadays because we were always told for the longest time, "Oh, yeah, you know, emotions, like, you know, if you feel something, that's just in your head." Uh, okay, what are we gonna do about it then? [00:06:53] Adam: So in this kind of regard, you have to look at all those different aspects of the person and really listen to the history to understand where they're coming from. From there, you start going through examinations, and you find out if anything gets triggered. So if somebody's having, like, you know, a back pain but it's not being triggered by any particular orthopedic or neurological examinations, you have to start looking elsewhere. [00:07:14] Adam: So this is where you start looking into the biochemical aspect of things. What's their diet like? What's their hydration level like? What kind of medications are they taking? What kind of supplements are they taking? Because even in today's day and age, there's many supplements that are on the market that are not FDA approved, so who knows what's being put out there and what reputable or not reputable companies are putting these things out there. [00:07:34] Adam: So the fact is, is that these are different aspects I look at every single patient with because no two patients are the same. I've never seen, in my near 11 years of being in practice as a chiropractor, I've never seen two patients that are exactly the same. [00:07:47] Elena: And so growing up, I remember my relative, my uncle, whatever, they said, "You go to the doctor and they give you pill A for headache, and they give you pill A for a foot pain and, and, or injury, or they give you pill, the same pill that heals so many things." [00:08:03] Elena: So what I heard what you said when, when you said not e- not there's no two patients, but that's how I grow up, right? The same pill cure, heal so many illnesses. So what I hear that you said is, it's not that I use a different methodology. I use this methodology to understand more the patient. And number two, I don't heal the patient. [00:08:26] Elena: What I do is I actually observe what is creating the problem, so we can go to the root and heal that or adapt or change or make adjustment. You know, I wanna give a, a testimonial since we're talking about this. I remember that I, uh, when I started the podcast, this very expensive chair, and uh-oh, the chair was creating a pain in my back. [00:08:47] Elena: And I came to see you, and I was so sad that I was gonna have to get rid of this chair because the old, uh, s- you know, not so expensive chair was perfect. And then you said, "Wait a minute. Let's do this." So you added a little bit of something that I was doing wrong, and I get to keep my chair, and my, my back didn't hurt. [00:09:05] Elena: Perfect. It was a very simple thing. I just wanna, I just wanna say. So there was something very interesting that you mentioned, besides all of that, which I love, right? This podcast, we prioritize, I guess... I said that, right? The he- men's health. But there was something that you says m- men are not prompt, I guess, to talk about emotions and stuff. [00:09:27] Elena: So, uh, specifically on your patients and male patients, when you are actually working, when it's emotional- Mm-hmm ... how difficult is for you to help them, for them to open up and share there is... there could possibly s- be something emotional? [00:09:44] Adam: Good question. So to answer that- The person always has to be open to the idea of going into that realm in the first place. [00:09:52] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:09:52] Adam: So if they are not comfortable with it, I move on and do a different treatment type for that person. So first and foremost. So they have to be open to the idea of actually being okay with work being done to them- [00:10:05] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:10:05] Adam: in regards to actually investigating what that, what we call neural emotional complex is. [00:10:11] Adam: And that neural emotional complex is usually in the subconscious mind. So it's something that they don't recognize here and now. It's brought out of them. Because we're brought up in so many different patterns- [00:10:21] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:10:22] Adam: on terms of, like, how our experiences are, and those emotions that are tied to those experiences, like this charge that they have. [00:10:28] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:10:28] Adam: So with men especially, I do have to explain it in a little more depth to get them having an understanding that- [00:10:34] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:10:34] Adam: every single spinal level has a most correlating organ system or meridian system from the acupuncture meridian system to a particular emotion that's associated with it. [00:10:44] Elena: Hmm. [00:10:44] Adam: So for example, like the liver, the most commonly associated emotion with that is anger. [00:10:50] Adam: And we think to ourselves, "Okay, what's an example of that?" Well, the alcoholic doesn't really seem to always be the most, like, happy-go-lucky individual. [00:10:57] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:10:57] Adam: So that could relate to potentially, like, some aspects of the mid-thoracic spine that could be affecting them, or it could be affecting the right shoulder, or it could be affecting the aspects around the right chest, because these are all referral pattern areas where somebody would have liver issues. [00:11:11] Adam: And this could also be, you know, related to how they detox properly- [00:11:16] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:11:16] Adam: since the liver's a main detoxification organ system. So when I have to explain that to men, I explain it in a very objective sense. Typically, they'll come on board with the idea of going through that, because truthfully, there are a lot of shadows that get exposed in those types of conversations. [00:11:33] Adam: And when we help clear these complexes that they do have, they tend to feel a lot better, and they seem to function a lot better as well. [00:11:41] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:11:42] Adam: So there's a whole rabbit hole you can go down with that. [00:11:45] Elena: I guess what I understand about this is for men- [00:11:49] Adam: mm ... [00:11:49] Elena: who are listening right now, even though it might be a little difficult to sometimes share your emotions, keep in mind that sometimes your emotions is what's created the pain. [00:11:57] Adam: Mm. [00:11:57] Elena: And there's a possibility, but let's go there. Sure. Obviously, I believe in my generation, probably close to that generation as well, men grow up with a statement of, "Don't cry, you're a boy." [00:12:12] Adam: Yes. [00:12:12] Elena: So because of that, they grow up in a way that is not, you know, very expressive in their emotions. How and when did you figure that out, to be able to express yourself? [00:12:24] Adam: You know, honestly, it's probably been within the last decade or so. So I just turned 40, so it wasn't really until my 30s where I started looking back on all my past history and started really challenging myself with approaching and understanding those kinds of, you know, shadows that I was dealing with. [00:12:42] Adam: Because, you know, once again, my dad was raised in, like, the 1950s, 1960s, uh, you know, Irish Catholic, you know, New Jersey upbringing and stuff like that in grammar school. And then on top of that, you know, his dad was a Marine and, you know, suffered through, like, the Great Depression and was enlisted in, uh, the Pacific in, like, World War II when he was, like, only 17. [00:13:02] Adam: So, you know, th- through generations they weren't talking about it. And I've had these conversations even with my brother, who's younger, and we've talked about how it's just like, you know, we are the ones to actually start breaking that cycle because they didn't talk about it because they didn't feel like they were allowed to talk about it. [00:13:16] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:13:17] Adam: So as men, we've had to compartmentalize a lot of different aspects of our emotions. [00:13:21] Elena: Hmm. [00:13:21] Adam: And it's just like, you know, we have that emotion and we just, you- we swallow it and we just keep it somewhere. But now we're starting to realize in today's day and world that- Those things will manifest themselves in many different aspects Yeah [00:13:33] Adam: whether it be joint pain, whether it be ulcers, whether it be, like, adrenal fatigue, whether it be just, like, lack of sleep. And all these factors can affect us in terms of, like, just long-term health. So it's important that we really start recognizing how men have been suffering in this regard. And, you know, I never wanna take, like, the perspective that, like, you know, woe is me, but, you know, it's important to at least, like, have the discussions now about how men have had these standards set for ourselves for so long that we have to be, you know, disciplined and, you know, emotionless and stoic, and that's how we have our power. [00:14:09] Adam: Which is understandable, because, like, you know, the masculine energy is about, you know, leading and directing, which is un- uh, totally understandable. But it's also one of those things we need to really recognize that we need to be able to embrace the feminine aspect of things, saying, "It's okay to rest. It's okay to just be." And we don't have to always be doing things. Like, we're human beings. We're not human doings for a reason. [00:14:33] Elena: I love that. I never heard that. [00:14:35] Adam: Oh, really? Oh, okay. [00:14:36] Elena: Yes. I just learned something new. We are human beings, not human doings. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And the being is the femininity. [00:14:44] Adam: Yeah. [00:14:44] Elena: Men and pain avoidance. [00:14:46] Elena: In your clinical experience, do men tend to wait longer than they should before seeking care, and what's the cost of that push through it mentally on a man's long-term health and quality of life? [00:15:00] Adam: Short answer, do men- Wait longer? Yes [00:15:04] Elena: And what is the consequences? What are the consequences of that just pushing, pushing, pushing and then- [00:15:09] Adam: Yeah. I mean, just like anything, you put off something to do later on, and it's just more work later on that you have to, you know, make up for. And I feel with a lot of men, you know, they're often... In my office, they're often convinced by somebody in the family, whether it be, like, their wife or their child that it's like, "Oh, they did well, so, like, you know, maybe I should check this guy out, too." [00:15:27] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:15:27] Adam: And I've had men who are, you know, married years later come back to me and... Or come to me in the first place and to be like, "Oh, you know, like, my wife and my daughter have seen you," or, "My wife and my kid have seen you, so, you know, let me see what this is about." [00:15:38] Elena: I want to try- [00:15:39] Adam: Yeah ... [00:15:39] Elena: what you did to me. [00:15:40] Elena: Okay. I would love for you to share, without names of course- [00:15:44] Adam: Yeah, go ahead ... [00:15:45] Elena: an experience what you have with a patient that was something extremely inspiring to you and that you were able to help. [00:15:51] Adam: Oh, I have a, I have a really good one. [00:15:52] Elena: Okay. [00:15:53] Adam: Yeah. So for a brief amount of time, I was actually assisting this sports rehabilitation aspect of this gym. [00:15:59] Adam: It was called Self Made Training Facility. This was based out of Mission Valley back in 2018, 2019. Unfortunately, they had to shut down in 2020 after COVID had happened. Of course. So there was one child who was actually training with a buddy of mine. Uh, he was training, like, kickboxing at the time, and it was really good for, like, his empowerment and stuff like that. [00:16:18] Adam: And I want to say he was, like, eight or nine at that time. And I had been seeing his mom, actually, for care, and she had just finished up an appointment with me. Did really well. Maybe came back about five minutes later. She goes, "Do you work with kids?" I go, "Yeah." She's like, "My son's got something going on." I see that he's, like, got his neck pinching like this the entire time, and I thought it was something he did when he was, like, boxing or something like that. [00:16:39] Adam: And I have him... I'm just like, "You know, just put out your hands just like this," 'cause I know this one test. It's what's called diadochokinesis- but it's basically to evaluate cerebellum activity, which is what actually monitors how you have fine coordinated movement in your- [00:16:52] Elena: Okay ... [00:16:52] Adam: in your system. So it works on each individual side of your body. So if there's a left cerebellar issue, there's usually, like, a left s- left arm issue, or there's a right cerebellar issue, right arm issue. [00:17:02] Elena: I see. [00:17:03] Adam: So I have him just stick out his hands, and his left hand is just twitching like this. He cannot- [00:17:07] Elena: Hmm ... [00:17:07] Adam: keep it stable. [00:17:08] Elena: Uh-huh. [00:17:09] Adam: And I'm like, okay. And I also test him in another position where I had him close his eyes and just stand still. [00:17:15] Adam: No problem. Wasn't swaying to one side or the other. I have him do the same thing closing his eyes and tipping his head slightly back on the left, and you see his whole body start to fall- [00:17:24] Elena: Oh ... [00:17:24] Adam: on the left side. And his mom had, like, her eyes just go bright just like this. And I was like, "Nothing to worry about. I've... I know what's going on." 'Cause luckily for me, I had been in a board review back in, I wanna say it was 2014, with this great man, whose name was Dr. John Donofrio. Unfortunately, he passed a couple years ago. And he was showing people up at the front of the class what had happened when you close your eyes and you turn your head just like this. [00:17:51] Adam: It basically pinches the left occiput, which actually inhibits cerebellar functioning on that particular side. So what happened is I get this child down on the table, I do a couple different eye movement tracking to test muscles that are related to the neurological functioning of that boom, I hit his, uh, occiput on the left side, and then his atlas, which is the first cervical vertebrae, I hit on the right side. [00:18:16] Adam: And then I also had to adjust, like, some basic other things just to make sure everything else was balanced, like ankles and hips and stuff like that. Maybe three sessions later, he was, like, 100%, but, like, he was significantly better after that. So from before when he was just twitching on this left arm, completely stable right afterwards. [00:18:32] Adam: And, like, that was, like, the moment that it really clicked because k- you know, kids heal like that, so it's, like, very evident that you see right away that they- [00:18:40] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:18:40] Adam: have this effect of chiropractic care. But it was just one of those things where it just... That one always stood out to me, and he was kind enough to actually... [00:18:48] Adam: The kid made, like, a video with me on Instagram, like, years ago. It was, like, during Christmas, and then he gives me a hug at the end of the video, so. [00:18:53] Elena: That's cool. [00:18:54] Adam: Yeah, so it was just like, you know, I, I love kids, I love working with moms, and I love, like, really all my patients. So the fact is, is that just I'm very, very fortunate to get to do what I do every day. [00:19:04] Adam: And seeing just stories like that just echo into every part of my career and go forward from here. [00:19:11] Elena: What, what do you... W- what makes you do what you do? [00:19:13] Adam: You know, I always wanted to help people and, like, you know, I always felt that, like, fitness and health were, like, the cornerstones of just what made life, like, amazing. [00:19:23] Adam: And for me, I always found refuge in just movement and, like, you know, we're both Aries. Like, we have to keep moving with everything we do. [00:19:31] Elena: We're fire. [00:19:31] Adam: Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're fire. We just, we gotta keep the fire going. And for me, like, it all goes back to of how I actually got into chiropractic. So I was a wrestler in high school, and I was in a training camp that was the summer after my freshman year, and I had gotten my neck just wrenched in one of the matches that we had that was, like, scrimmage matches that we had. [00:19:53] Adam: And I come home after the camp was done, and my mom sees me, like, just, like, really pinching my neck for, like, three days, and she's like, "You know what? I'm gonna take you to my chiropractor." And I was like, "Oh, okay. I mean, if any- if it's gonna help, fine." And I thought he was gonna, like, rip my head off, and I was, like, so scared. [00:20:06] Adam: So he does, like, a bunch of, like, just soft tissue and then just one point, just something just explodes in my neck. And I'm like, "Wow." I'm like, "Okay, now I'll get, like, some mobility back. This is great." Might've gone back to him, like, one or two more times and, like, I was 100% after that. And I was like, "Man, there's, like, really something to this." [00:20:21] Adam: And that was kinda, like, just the inception moment of it. Years after that, I'd gone for, like, knee issues, ankle issues, lower back issues, wrist issues, elbow issues. [00:20:29] Elena: Poor kid. [00:20:30] Adam: And I was just... Well, I mean, like, you know, as an athlete, you're just getting yourself beat up all the time. [00:20:34] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:20:34] Adam: So, you know, naturally, like, bumps and bruises and, like, twists and turns- [00:20:37] Elena: Part of the life [00:20:38] Adam: and sprains are just gonna be, just gonna happen. [00:20:39] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:20:39] Adam: And, you know, athletes are the best compensators of their environment, so I was like, "Okay, you know, I can only do so much," but he would help me along the way. [00:20:47] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:20:47] Adam: And I was so inspired that I was like, "Man, like, if I could really go into some sort of profession that I felt, like, passionate about, it would be this," because- There's so much autonomy in it. [00:20:55] Adam: Like, he would tell me about exercises, he'd be telling me about stretches, he would tell me about, you know, heat and cold therapies, and that was just, like, the start of all the things I would come to learn- [00:21:05] Elena: Wow ... [00:21:06] Adam: years later. [00:21:06] Elena: I see your inspiration, where it came from. [00:21:08] Adam: Oh, for sure, for sure. I mean, like, that was, I wanna say, 2001. [00:21:13] Adam: Like- Yeah ... I think I g- I was 15 years old at the time. [00:21:16] Elena: Oh, wow. [00:21:17] Adam: And, you know, I thought about going into physical therapy originally, and I'd actually worked in a couple physical therapy clinics. I had done personal training. And I always thought to myself, I was like, "You know what? Like, just how can we keep leveling up from just, like, all the education we had and just continue to progress that?" [00:21:32] Adam: Because, you know, it's about fixing the whole person. I always say I'm a chiropractor by trade, so, like, really, the, you know, the education is the main point. So when people come to me, it's like, "This is how you get well, and this is how you stay well. Everything else that we do is basically for free." So, like, the adjustments and everything we do is for free because now we have an understanding about how you got in this position and how we get out of this position now. [00:21:54] Adam: And everybody's care plan is different in that regard. So, you know, fact is, is that going back to your, like, original point, you know, it's always different based on the individual, and we have to really accommodate for that, which I don't believe personally that allopathic medicine really goes for. They just kinda look at symptoms rather than cause. [00:22:13] Adam: And for me, I'm always trying to look at, like, just that root cause of what made this happen to begin with so we can start the process of getting out of that and changing the habit pattern of the nervous system. [00:22:25] Elena: Let's, let's talk about men. Let's k- [00:22:27] Adam: Sure. Yeah, let's go back to men. [00:22:27] Elena: My favorite subject, men. [00:22:30] Elena: Of course, most individuals live a stressful life, but what is the most common illness, condition, syndrome, whatever you wanna call it, that come to your, uh, clinic that is very simple to fix but not quite easy to figure out for the individuals who come to see you? [00:22:46] Adam: I mean, if we're talking about just men in general? [00:22:48] Elena: Yeah, specifically men. [00:22:49] Adam: You know, as I said, like, everybody's different, but, like, you know, commonly it's either, like, neck or lower back pain, and usually that's due to one of two things. One, it could just be that there's just a lot of just stress upon the individual, like the, the man in this kinda case, that, you know, his hips are the foundation. [00:23:06] Adam: If he doesn't feel proper in his foundation, it starts becoming weak, and then that weakness- [00:23:11] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:23:11] Adam: creates instability. That instability creates pain. If it's neck, usually it's about something about perspective. [00:23:17] Elena: It's movement. [00:23:18] Adam: Yeah. Oh, it's movement, for sure. [00:23:19] Elena: Flexibility and movement. [00:23:20] Adam: Yeah. [00:23:21] Elena: At what age the body start really changing for a man? [00:23:24] Adam: I mean, honestly, every guy is different, but if I was to put a number on it of just, like, kinda, like, an average between something, I'd honestly probably say around 30. Like, around 30 is probably when, like, men- [00:23:35] Elena: Wow ... [00:23:35] Adam: really have to, like, start really being very mindful of their health. Because there's this one concept called osteopenia where it's like you start losing muscle mass, and it's supposedly according to the literature, it starts around, like, 1% loss per year starting around 30. [00:23:51] Adam: You know, you read my bio. I'd done a bodybuilding competition actually when I was 30. And I won't lie, probably like six to seven months into there, there was like this like point 1, maybe like 1% change that I just noticed. But you know that 1% change can like do this at a certain point. And I just noticed something was different about my recovery. [00:24:07] Adam: So since then I've been much more mindful of my diet. I've been much more mindful of my like r- workout routines. Like I don't need to work out five, six days a week like just pushing heavy weight and stuff like that, so I mix it up. So fact is, is that I implore most men to kind of do that for themselves too. [00:24:23] Adam: Like find an activity that you find passion about. That could be martial arts, that could be yoga, that could be, again, surfing, that could be dancing, that could be just going on walks or going hiking and stuff like that. But like find something that you get yourself active 30 minutes a day minimum, that like you don't have any distractions, that you're just doing for yourself. [00:24:40] Adam: Because the reality is, is that, you know, men need to keep themselves strong. And by keeping themselves strong they need to do something that they have passion about. Because if they're just doing it to do it, like you know there's no incentive. Like g- give, give a man incentive and, and he'll, he'll conquer the world. [00:24:57] Adam: Like you know he'll save everybody. Seriously. [00:24:59] Elena: Well, of course. You know, I was just mentioning before that I heard by Alison Armstrong, the Queen Code writer, you probably hear this before, you're such a wise man. Women are here to live and men are here to die. I know, right? And the reason why this is, is because we are here to give life and continue to grow, produce. [00:25:20] Elena: Men are constantly protecting or ready for a fight, so they're ready to die actually. So what is interesting, because when you say this, the way that we process our emotions are, you know, like you said, everything in a box for a man is different than we n- we have network thinking- Yeah ... like women. So the body and the treatments and the care and the process, it should be different, right? [00:25:46] Elena: We lose, we lose muscles or we lose hormones differently. So the same treatment cannot definitely be for both genders. [00:25:53] Adam: Oh no, for sure. For sure. Like I mean, you know, women, you know, once a month they need to like, you know, rest and recover. So like men, we have a 24-hour cycle. [00:26:01] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:26:01] Adam: It's very different. [00:26:02] Adam: Yeah. So yeah, I mean like let's, let's be honest. You get morning wood and then just like as the day goes on, okay, fine, reset. Women, you got that 28, 29-day cycle with the moon. So you know fact is, is that women were not meant to work in the same intensity as- No ... men were. And for some reason like we've never really talked about that even for women in general. [00:26:20] Adam: We were told so many years going on that it's like, you know, women can do anything men can do, and that's just not true. There's certain things that women could do that we have to understand that it's just like these are amazing things. Why would you wanna compete with us with anything that we are doing? [00:26:34] Adam: Like, you go to so many different professions that are out there, you know, the guys who are oil riggers, the guys who are construction workers, the guys who are working on the antennas and stuff like that to provide Wi-Fi and stuff like that. Most of those industries are men. Most men, I don't believe, are really telling those women, like, "You shouldn't be doing this." [00:26:50] Adam: It's just I don't find them to really have an interest a lot of the time. [00:26:53] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:26:53] Adam: Because, like, those are dangerous jobs that men are more suitable to do just because biologically we're more equipped to do that. Again, not saying women aren't, but men are much more as a whole capable of doing that. I mean, women give life [00:27:08] Elena: Yeah [00:27:09] Adam: Like if, if anybody- [00:27:09] Elena: Hello, like that's a big job, right? [00:27:11] Adam: It's a very big job, and like for some reason, like we just like put that off to the side for like a lot of women and like just, you know, it is what it is. [00:27:18] Elena: It is very interesting you're talking about this because then, uh, I'm curious about this question. Do you perceive that, as you know now, it's two thou- it's early or almost mid, I guess, 2026, and things are changing rapidly in everything that has to do with femininity and masculinity. [00:27:34] Adam: Yeah. [00:27:34] Elena: The word narcissistic is- [00:27:36] Adam: The most overused word in the dating world ... [00:27:37] Elena: yes, is used, um, specifically with men, right? And the woman is bipolar, I guess, right? So we all have- [00:27:43] Adam: Sure. [00:27:43] Elena: By the way, because we all have a medical degree so we can, uh, you know, diagnose those- [00:27:48] Adam: Yeah ... but- like the doctor ticks off [00:27:50] Elena: narcissistic, when, narcissistic is basically it's a man who is expressing his masculinity. Not necessarily that he's always, I guess it depends, right? I don't, um, I cannot also diagnose. But for the majority of the time in my experience, and I am, uh, uh, also work with individual's emotions, narcissistic is being expressed in the masculinity. [00:28:09] Elena: Do you perceive that the conflict between the femininity and the masculinity is actually affecting health in both men and women in the current environment? [00:28:20] Adam: Oh, 100%. And I, I think it even goes beyond that because I do believe in our society there are forces at work, call it media, call it, you know, journalism, call it anything else, that are always trying to divide us no matter what. [00:28:34] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:28:34] Adam: So at the fundamental core principle of masculinity and femininity, oh, that's an easy target. Like just say what somebody's not doing well compared to the other and then add the word toxic to it, and there you go. Like you have toxic masculinity, toxic femininity. That's why you have, you know, the feminism movement which has taken it to a certain degree where it's just like, you know, most men don't feel like worthy, and there's a lot of young men right now who are just like completely calling themselves out of the dating game 'cause they just don't feel like it's worth it for themselves. [00:29:01] Adam: And then you have this other extreme end, which is like the red pill community, which is just saying like, you know, men need to be dominant, men need to be masculine. You know, women- [00:29:09] Elena: Mm ... [00:29:09] Adam: like stay in the kitchen and just do all these things and stuff like that. [00:29:11] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:29:12] Adam: And like that's not all great in general. [00:29:14] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:29:14] Adam: They both have their points and, you know, I've heard the expression before that, you know, even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day. But the reality is is that like we've had these so extremes that get the most amount of viewership, and I think that's what people really get swayed to. [00:29:29] Adam: And like even the algorithm on any of the social medias that you have out there sway us towards more of those things because they want to incite us more. And I think it's a really important thing to like really get grounded within yourself and just be like, "Hey look, like- What about myself, my family, and my friends, and my community first? [00:29:47] Adam: Because, again, like we weren't meant ever to be caring about millions of people in the world. It's just not in part of our biology. The phone made us do those things. [00:29:57] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:29:58] Adam: And I know I've gone like way off the point and stuff like that. [00:30:00] Elena: No, no, no. It's interesting. Like this is why you're gonna come back 300 times on this podcast in the next five years. [00:30:05] Elena: And by the way, every ti- every time you have a, a moment, just say, "Elena, I'm ready to go for another interview," because I want you here. All right. You have a really great... And I know you educate- [00:30:14] Adam: Appreciate it ... [00:30:14] Elena: you definitely educate yourself. You continue to educate, and we can have a conversation just on one of the tools that you have. [00:30:20] Adam: Yeah. [00:30:20] Elena: Right? So, uh, per- per- p- per episode, and this is interesting. Some individuals I perceive, they stay away from having an opinion about that because it's so scary sometimes. You don't know, uh, who's gonna get offended, and I'm sure that what you just said is gonna be you know, probably. [00:30:34] Adam: I mean, even situations like that, it's like am I offending or are you offended? [00:30:40] Elena: Exactly. [00:30:41] Adam: Like, I mean, I'm a big advocate for comedy because like one of the things is like comedy feels like the last place of like true free speech because either everything's okay or nothing's okay, so people should be able to speak about how they wanna speak. Yeah. And I feel that when somebody says that, "I am offended," it's like the most egotistical thing you could say because the fact is that y- because you're offended, it doesn't mean the world has to accommodate to what you feel. [00:31:03] Elena: Doesn't mean that they take and put the code of whatever you were talking about. Yeah. N- not necessarily you give it to them, but they put it and wear- wear it. [00:31:10] Adam: Right. [00:31:10] Elena: That makes you the label to- [00:31:11] Adam: Right. Like if you're offended, take an introspective look into yourself and find out why, and then if that really does get at your ego, there's some work that you need to do. [00:31:22] Elena: Yeah, sure. [00:31:22] Adam: Not the person who said the thing. [00:31:24] Elena: A reflection. [00:31:24] Adam: Yeah, a- absolutely, just take some reflection on that. [00:31:26] Elena: I love this. I would like to, uh, dig more into this, but we're gonna do another podcast about that, about- [00:31:32] Adam: Cool ... [00:31:32] Elena: the phone, and that's gonna be... We're gonna be wearing red on that one. [00:31:35] Adam: Okay. Just, yeah, let me know. [00:31:36] Elena: For sure. How about some role play? [00:31:39] Adam: Role play. Let's go for it. [00:31:40] Elena: Okay. So I am a woman in my mid-40s. [00:31:45] Adam: Okay. [00:31:45] Elena: Wow. And I look good for that, right? [00:31:48] Adam: Always. [00:31:49] Elena: Thank you. And you are Dr. Mc Bride. [00:31:53] Adam: Yes. [00:31:53] Elena: I come to see you. I'm not sure what I'm gonna say. You're gonna ask me the right questions, and then we'll figure it out here. [00:31:58] Adam: Okay. [00:31:59] Elena: Okay? I might change my voice because we're role-playing. [00:32:02] Adam: Okay. [00:32:02] Elena: You can be you or whatever you want. And by the way, you're the first Irish man I think that I have in this podcast, and for all those Irish men out there, I do have a thing on Irish men, so there's something about those eyes that I can't resist. [00:32:14] Elena: I probably never told you this before, but- [00:32:16] Adam: This is the first you met ... [00:32:17] Elena: it's out there. Uh, producer, remind me to remove that part. Ready. Hi, Dr. Mc Bride [00:32:26] Adam: How are you doing, Elena? [00:32:27] Elena: Well, I don't know. Um, I have these times that I feel like sometimes I'm very stressed. It's like my blood pressure goes up, but I'm not really sure what's happening to me. [00:32:37] Adam: Okay. How long have you been dealing with that for? [00:32:39] Elena: I feel like it's increasing in the last six months. [00:32:42] Adam: Okay. Take me back to six months ago. What was going on in life? [00:32:45] Elena: Ah, my son almost died in a car accident. [00:32:49] Adam: Okay. Okay. Did you yourself experience any kind of like physical discomfort around that time period when he was dealing with that? [00:32:58] Elena: I was very stressed, but it also remind me to a time when my dad die. [00:33:04] Adam: Okay. With that being said, like where do you feel pain in your body right now, would you, would you say? [00:33:09] Elena: A lot of tension in my lower back. [00:33:11] Adam: Okay. [00:33:11] Elena: And also when I breathe, it's like I'm doing shallow breathing. [00:33:14] Adam: Okay. Have you seen anybody else currently for these issues that you've been currently dealing with right now? [00:33:19] Elena: Well, uh, two other doctors, but they gave me pills, but I don't think that's changing, and I started losing respect and, uh, trust in the medical field. Somebody told me that you do miracles, and I was... You know, this is... I'm attempting this, but I'm really feel like anxiety. [00:33:35] Adam: Okay, okay. Well, with that being said, I'd like to ask some like red flag questions that I ask every patient. [00:33:40] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:33:40] Adam: First off, are you getting any headaches? [00:33:42] Elena: Sometimes. [00:33:43] Adam: Where? [00:33:43] Elena: In my left side. [00:33:45] Adam: Left side. And does it affect your vision or your hearing? [00:33:47] Elena: Yeah, my hearing actually. Even probably my balance as well. [00:33:50] Adam: Okay, okay. With that being said, have you had any kind of fever recently at all? [00:33:54] Elena: Well, not necessarily fever. [00:33:55] Elena: In my... I don't know if this is because I'm mid-40s. It could be my... I don't know if I'm starting my menopause. [00:34:01] Adam: Okay. [00:34:01] Elena: But sometimes, like if I had the flu but I don't, like inside, I don't know what's happening. [00:34:08] Adam: Okay, okay. Have you had any issues with peeing or pooping? [00:34:11] Elena: Sometimes, especially when I'm stressed, I get constipated. [00:34:14] Adam: Okay, okay. Has that been happening since the six-month period? [00:34:18] Elena: I s- I notice it more. [00:34:19] Adam: You notice it more? [00:34:20] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:34:20] Adam: Okay. How often would you have a bowel movement? [00:34:22] Elena: Sometimes it takes a whole day that I don't have one- [00:34:25] Adam: Okay ... [00:34:26] Elena: until the next day. [00:34:26] Adam: Do you take anything right now to alleviate that or help that? [00:34:29] Elena: One doctor gave me some medicine, but it doesn't always work. [00:34:33] Adam: Okay. How's the quality of your sleep? [00:34:35] Elena: I wake up a lot And I don't know if I have nightmares, but I have anxiety. Like, I wake up with, you know, my heart racing- [00:34:43] Adam: Mm ... [00:34:43] Elena: and sometimes even sweating. I don't know what's, what's happening. Sometimes I can remember if I had a nightmare or not. [00:34:49] Adam: Okay. How many hours of sleep are you getting per night typically? [00:34:52] Elena: Well, I don't have more than three hours straight. [00:34:55] Adam: Only three straight. [00:34:56] Elena: Yeah. [00:34:56] Adam: Okay. [00:34:56] Elena: But, you know, I try to have at least seven hours, but some- no more than three straight. [00:35:01] Adam: Okay. [00:35:01] Elena: And when I wake up, sometimes it's hard to go back. [00:35:03] Adam: What time is that around that you wake up? [00:35:05] Elena: Usually around 2:30 to 3:30. [00:35:08] Adam: And then have you had any major weight loss in the last six months that's not been on your own efforts? [00:35:12] Elena: No? Actually, I'm feel like I'm gaining weight. [00:35:14] Adam: Feel like you're gaining weight. Okay. Have you ever seen a chiropractor before? [00:35:17] Elena: Nope. [00:35:18] Adam: Well, if you have any questions whatsoever, I'd be happy to answer them for you to put you more mind at ease. And then in addition to that, what makes this kind of issue you've been dealing with in your lower back feel better? [00:35:29] Elena: So Adam, tell me what make you ask those questions. [00:35:32] Adam: So I typically go through this whole, what I call OPQRST kind of fashion- [00:35:38] Elena: By the way- ... [00:35:39] Adam: with red flags ... [00:35:40] Elena: I just was created stories. [00:35:41] Adam: Yeah ... [00:35:42] Elena: and I was thinking, I wonder if he's gonna have like a diagnosis . [00:35:46] Adam: We could go for a whole podcast just on that alone, so. [00:35:48] Elena: Pardon me? [00:35:48] Adam: We could go for a whole podcast alone just on history taking. [00:35:51] Elena: Oh, wow. [00:35:52] Adam: Oh. [00:35:52] Elena: Because I didn't know if all of those things make sense, but I was just trying to go really... You know, I'm not a method actor, but- [00:35:58] Adam: That's okay ... [00:35:58] Elena: but I was trying to just be very present and feel like how would that person... [00:36:02] Elena: Not, I didn't have a condition in mind. I just- [00:36:04] Adam: Yeah ... [00:36:04] Elena: okay, where is this taking? [00:36:05] Adam: Yeah, like not faking, but like simulating. [00:36:07] Elena: Yeah. [00:36:07] Adam: Yeah, yeah. [00:36:08] Elena: Something like that. Okay, so you have a list of questions that you ask? [00:36:12] Adam: Yeah, so it, I go based upon a lot of stuff we were taught in school. We call it OPQRST. [00:36:16] Elena: Uh-huh. [00:36:17] Adam: And these basically go along the lines of like onset, like when do these things happen? [00:36:21] Adam: Palliative, provocative, what makes it feel better, what makes it feel worse? Q, quality, what type of sensation of pain are you experiencing? Sharp, achy, dull, tight? You know, you kind of told me that, like tight is in my chest and I have my, like aching is my lower back. Then we go into site. Where is it? In regards to timing, like I didn't get to that point, but like what time of the day does it really happen? [00:36:41] Adam: Morning, noon... The morning, afternoon, evening before you go to bed, like constantly. What's the trend? Like is it getting better, worse, staying the same? I always go into red flag questions because if somebody's getting headaches, that could signify something bigger overall in terms of just the either blood pressure or pressure behind the eye or any kind of potential even like, you know, kidney function issues too. [00:37:03] Adam: Because like the eyes are actually around the kidney meridian as a result of their functioning. So I dip into different aspects that are beyond the chiropractic scope as well, but it healthily compliment my care. And that's why I always ask about sleep, 'cause truthfully, I think sleep's one of the most important things. [00:37:17] Adam: Because if you don't get that proper recovery, that's gonna affect all these other things that are just compensating long-term for the individual. [00:37:24] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:37:24] Adam: So in this kind of case, you were like saying, "Oh yeah, you know, I, I wake up between like 2:30 and 3:00," uh, 3:30 I believe it was. Well, believe it or not, like I find a lot of people who wake up between like around like 1:00 to 3:00 is really important because that's actually like the liver's most active period during the day. [00:37:39] Adam: So oftentimes- [00:37:40] Elena: What does that mean? [00:37:41] Adam: So in Chinese medicine, they have what's called a 24-hour clock of medicine. So basically it's like their version of circadian rhythm. Every ch- system of the 12 organ systems has a two-hour most active period during the day called an orary period. What happens is that it starts around like 3:00 AM to 5:00 AM where you take your first breath and where the lungs actually take in the most pure air. [00:38:04] Adam: So there's a reason, like have you ever heard of like The 4:00 AM Club? [00:38:07] Elena: No. [00:38:07] Adam: So The 4:00 AM Club is like used by a lot of like billionaires and millionaires who get up like that early in the morning to really get the most out of the day. [00:38:14] Elena: Oh, as me. [00:38:15] Adam: Yeah, there you go. So, so fact is is that when you're getting up at that time, you're getting like the most pure chi in your system. [00:38:22] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:38:22] Adam: Like your... the most pure life force from the world. Yeah. 'Cause if you think about it, between 3:00 AM and 5:00 AM, it's a very different air quality of the day compared to 3:00 PM and 5:00 PM. [00:38:31] Elena: Well, in my home I have a lot of good air quality- [00:38:34] Adam: There you go ... but, you know, so yeah. [00:38:36] Elena: Without having to move. [00:38:37] Adam: Yeah. So investigating just like- [00:38:40] Elena: Wow ... [00:38:40] Adam: those, those periods of the day. If like they have a certain time period of the day that something's not functioning properly, say between like 1:00 and 3:00 PM, for example, that's when the small intestine's most active. Ah. Some people have like that lull in the middle of the day 'cause they've just had lunch and maybe their digestion's a little slow and meal... they're backed up. So fact is is that we can kind of investigate into that. Maybe they need nutritional supplementation to actually help with the facilitation of gastrointestinal movement. [00:39:03] Elena: What ideal to consume food and the length of time that we have to wait before we go to bed [00:39:10] Adam: You know what? Typically, I'd like to say, like, between like three, four hours, like, before you go to sleep should be, like, your last meal. Obviously, like, with everybody, everybody's got different schedules. [00:39:19] Elena: Is it, is it the same for depending on the quality of food? Meaning- [00:39:22] Adam: Oh, for sure ... [00:39:23] Elena: fish versus meat. Like, for fish versus chicken versus, uh, meat, how, what is the length of time? [00:39:29] Adam: So I mean, again, like, protein's gonna take longer time to digest- [00:39:32] Elena: More than three hours? [00:39:33] Adam: Yeah, for sure. So that's gonna take a little longer time to digest because the fact is that your body has to break that down into amino acids, and then those amino acids have to go into a certain cycle, like the, uh, different aspects of, like, how we create energy essentially. [00:39:47] Adam: So in this kind of regard, I think this is gonna still take some time. Yeah, [00:39:49] Elena: it keeps, it keeps going down. The mic keeps going down. Just, you can just hold the bot- the- Hold it there? Yeah, and then just... Yeah. I feel like something is happening there. So you, we got [00:39:57] Elena: that? We having a, um- [00:40:01] Adam: It's all good ... [00:40:01] Elena: technical, uh, adjustment here with, um- [00:40:08] Adam: The whole time I feel like it's been just going [00:40:09] Elena: Yeah, I feel like [00:40:11] Adam: As the podcast goes on. [00:40:13] Staff: All right. That's good? All right, cool. [00:40:16] Adam: Yeah, cool. [00:40:16] Elena: Thank you. [00:40:17] Adam: Yeah. [00:40:18] Elena: This is real stuff that happened in a podcast, and we're not gonna, we're not gonna, we're not gonna make any edit. Please. Let's just keep it real. [00:40:25] Adam: Yeah. Yeah. So going back to your original point, so like proteins and fats take a little bit longer to digest because the fact is they're more nutrient dense in those kind of regards. That's why when we have things like sugar is processed really quickly because salivary amylase or saliva breaks down that sugar so we have immediate energy. [00:40:41] Adam: So fact is, is that again, when we are going through the course of the day and we just have like, have like a heavy protein at night, that can typically kind of affect how people are gonna be actually feeling between the time they go eat the last meal, and then they go to bed, because they're, they're gonna be sitting with a full stomach, and they're not walking after that and being able to, like, lower their blood clue- glucose levels essentially. [00:41:02] Elena: So when is ideal to exercise? [00:41:04] Adam: You know, simple answer is, like, when y- you have time for it. Depending what your goal is, that is different. So- [00:41:10] Elena: I love this ... [00:41:11] Adam: yeah, so when you wanna work out and actively lose weight, I would probably say the best time of the day to work out to lose weight is actually first thing in the morning, because you're utilizing more fat as energy. [00:41:20] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:41:20] Adam: So the fact is, is that your basal metabolic rate and how your body's consuming energy, typically if it's a higher number, it's usually sugar-related. If it's a lower number, it's usually fat-related. If you wanna use that fat for energy, that's a better time to do it. If you wanna have, like, more output performance and stuff like that, probably more in the afternoon when your muscles are nice and warm so there's, like, a less risk of injury, and you'll also be eating plenty of carbs. [00:41:43] Elena: So for an individual who doesn't have the opportunity to go to the gym for whatever reason- [00:41:47] Adam: Mm-hmm ... [00:41:48] Elena: but needs or wants or have the desire to start making some movement that creates a different in the body, what would you suggest be a movement to do? [00:41:55] Adam: Um, you know, I think body weight movements always, like, are kind of like a, a, a gold standard for those things. So if they're gonna be doing things like just body weight squats or pushups or crunches or s- planks or side planks- [00:42:07] Elena: No, no equipment. Yeah. Just little things that require the body. Yeah. Okay. [00:42:10] Adam: Yeah, doing that. Even just going for a walk is just a good start. [00:42:13] Elena: That's true. Yeah. You know, but sometimes going for a walk could be dangerous or, I don't know, it's out of the house. Some people not feel c- comfortable with that. [00:42:21] Adam: No, for sure. [00:42:22] Elena: So I'm gonna ask you one question and then we're gonna start closing this episode. But I have to invite you back because I have, like, 300 million questions that I didn't ask. [00:42:29] Adam: Go for it. [00:42:30] Elena: Okay? [00:42:30] Adam: Yeah. [00:42:30] Elena: So the performance paradox. You compete in bodybuilding and train extensively. [00:42:37] Elena: There's a fine line between pushing your body for growth and breaking it down through over-training or ego. [00:42:44] Adam: Yes. [00:42:44] Elena: Uh, where is the line, and how do you personally navigate it? [00:42:49] Adam: I'll be totally honest. [00:42:50] Elena: Please. [00:42:50] Adam: Yeah, because from- [00:42:51] Elena: Don't lie to me ... [00:42:52] Adam: I don't feel like... I'm one of those types of people that's like, d- don't do as I say, not as I do. [00:42:56] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:42:56] Adam: Because in many situations I've pushed myself to a certain- [00:42:59] Elena: Don't we all? [00:43:00] Adam: Yeah. And like, you know, like I've, I've definitely burned myself out at certain times just because there's a performance, like, attitude I had in my own head- [00:43:08] Elena: Ego ... [00:43:08] Adam: that I felt I needed to achieve. [00:43:09] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:43:10] Adam: And you know, typically if, like, people working out like two to three days a week, like extensive, like, strength training, I think that's a good start. [00:43:16] Adam: It's more the idea that there's no such thing as, like, over-training, but there is under-recovery. So what I mean by that is, like, you could train all day every day, but if you're not doing the necessary things of mobilization or stretching or even soft tissue care like massage or chiropractic or acupuncture or just, like, name anything that's out there, or especially sleep, that's gonna affect you, I think, more than training too much. [00:43:42] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:43:42] Adam: And, like, this is also related to, like, just food and supplements as well because if you're not eating enough, you're not getting enough calories in. For sure. So that's gonna actually make a, a big difference as, as well. You were mentioning protein. Fact is, is that we need more protein in our body than, than we really do get in our average American diet. [00:43:57] Elena: Okay. [00:43:57] Adam: So, like, you know, your hair, skin, your nails- [00:44:00] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:44:00] Adam: those are all proteins that are needed. Okay. And the fact is, again, we break down those proteins into amino acids for all different kinds of energy processes that we also need. So the- [00:44:09] Elena: Okay ... [00:44:09] Adam: the fact is, is that if somebody wants to just stabilize blood sugar, most of the time I would just give them, like, the very standard of have some protein with vegetables and then fruit as snacks in between. [00:44:19] Elena: Awesome. [00:44:20] Adam: Yeah. So it's like, you know, first thing in the morning if you want to have, like, you know, say like- [00:44:24] Elena: Smoothie? [00:44:24] Adam: Yeah. Like, I mean, well, uh, uh, here's the only thing about smoothies. I'd rather have somebody have, like, something solid to actually chew and eat- [00:44:30] Elena: Mm-hmm ... [00:44:31] Adam: because you need that mastication because the fact is that that's gonna stimulate the gastric juice within the stomach to actually start the gastric process of digestion overall for the day. [00:44:39] Adam: That's why they call it break fast. [00:44:41] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:44:41] Adam: So fact is, is that I'd rather have somebody, like, eat their protein first and then have a smoothie later on because now, like, the, they already have the process going. Oftentimes I feel like it really spikes, like, an insulin, like, uh, it, it, like, it has, like, an insulin spike first thing start because I mean, smoothies are essentially just, like, broken down sugars. [00:44:58] Elena: Yeah. [00:44:59] Adam: Like, they're not getting the fiber and you're not getting, like, the- [00:45:01] Elena: That's true ... [00:45:02] Adam: other components when you're actually, like, eating fruit. [00:45:04] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:45:04] Adam: Exactly. So nothing against smoothies. I would just say, like, the better idea is to- [00:45:08] Elena: There are other options- [00:45:09] Adam: Yeah ... [00:45:09] Elena: that are more, uh, uh, uh- [00:45:10] Adam: Yeah ... [00:45:10] Elena: healthy. [00:45:11] Adam: Yeah. [00:45:11] Elena: All right. Who you- perceive is the right person to be sitting in that chair of honor? [00:45:18] Adam: Who's the right person? [00:45:19] Elena: Yeah. Who would be the guest for you that you perceive it would be a- an individual to invite, either someone you personally know or an individual that you would like to hear from? [00:45:29] Adam: Somebody who's had life experience that has made the mistakes that they've learned from. That's the biggest thing, and I mean- [00:45:37] Elena: You, you mean someone sharing his life. [00:45:38] Adam: Yeah. Oh, somebody sharing their life. It could be, like, men or women. I don't... Honestly, like, I mean, I think it's good to learn from everybody because I think mistakes are what we learn from the most, and- [00:45:48] Elena: Yeah, I agree with you ... [00:45:48] Adam: yeah, trust me, I've made so many mistakes in my life, but at the same time, like, it led me to this moment right here, so all it was, was just a "missed take." Like, I just doin'... I didn't do it properly the first time, so- [00:45:59] Elena: You didn't take it the first time. You had to take- [00:46:00] Adam: No, I mean, like, y- we should embrace failure, and we really don't as a society. Yeah. And I think that's what gets a lot of people down because fail is the worst word, [00:46:07] Adam: and- [00:46:08] Elena: That's another podcast that we... you and I are gonna have to discuss ... [00:46:10] Adam: absolutely. And it took me a long time to realize this, but, like, a couple years ago, somebody told me that's all it stands for is just first attempt in learning. So, like, you could fail so many times. [00:46:19] Elena: I wanna invite to- you to do eventually a podcast where you would just... in terms, do an interview as a conversation. [00:46:25] Adam: Cool. Yeah. [00:46:25] Elena: Yeah, and probably more because, wow, like, really I wanna keep listening to you. [00:46:30] Adam: Oh, we could talk forever. 100%. [00:46:33] Elena: Which I know. That's it. We're gonna have to, uh, record for hours and hours and hours. Oh, well. All right. So are you ri- ready for some rapid fire questions where I say one or two things re- as quick as possible and you answer whatever first come to your mind? [00:46:47] Adam: Let's go. [00:46:48] Elena: Because you're so shy, probably it's gonna take forever. Ready? [00:46:51] Adam: Let's go. [00:46:52] Elena: Transformation. [00:46:53] Adam: Growth. [00:46:53] Elena: Education. [00:46:54] Adam: Necessary. [00:46:55] Elena: Men. [00:46:56] Adam: Stability. [00:46:56] Elena: Time. [00:46:57] Adam: Finite. [00:46:58] Elena: Fear. [00:47:00] Adam: Nonexistent [00:47:00] Elena: Knowledge [00:47:01] Adam: Power [00:47:02] Elena: Fulfillment [00:47:03] Adam: Also necessary [00:47:05] Elena: Pornography [00:47:06] Adam: Depends [00:47:07] Elena: Depends. Society [00:47:09] Adam: Hey, that's like the hardest one. [00:47:11] Elena: Mm-hmm. [00:47:11] Adam: Um, ecosystem [00:47:14] Elena: Connection [00:47:15] Adam: Beautiful [00:47:16] Elena: Spirituality [00:47:18] Adam: Something higher than ourselves [00:47:19] Elena: God [00:47:20] Adam: The thing that unites everything [00:47:21] Elena: Service [00:47:23] Adam: Purpose [00:47:23] Elena: Music [00:47:24] Adam: The melody of life [00:47:25] Elena: Love language [00:47:27] Adam: Physical touch [00:47:28] Elena: Legacy [00:47:29] Adam: Honor [00:47:30] Elena: Emotions [00:47:32] Adam: Human [00:47:32] Elena: Exercise [00:47:33] Adam: Emotion [00:47:35] Elena: Health [00:47:36] Adam: Everything [00:47:36] Elena: Women [00:47:37] Adam: Incredible [00:47:38] Elena: Suffering [00:47:39] Adam: Necessary [00:47:40] Elena: Social media [00:47:42] Adam: A tool [00:47:43] Elena: Stress [00:47:44] Adam: The pulse of life [00:47:45] Elena: Fatherhood [00:47:46] Adam: Nurture [00:47:47] Elena: That's interesting. [00:47:48] Elena: The- Pardon me. Let me ask you this. [00:47:49] Adam: Please. [00:47:50] Elena: Is this making you think about these things really, like, deeper? [00:47:54] Adam: Yeah. [00:47:55] Elena: Okay. Because I did notice that I usually go, "It depends," right? Mm. But, you know, you... I can see your face is processing all these things amazingly. [00:48:04] Adam: Yeah, yeah. [00:48:05] Elena: And, uh, I didn't realize what this is creating sometimes until now, but thank you for that. [00:48:11] Adam: Oh, for sure. [00:48:12] Elena: Okay. So after fatherhood is AI [00:48:15] Adam: A change in the future [00:48:17] Elena: Mind [00:48:18] Adam: Substance [00:48:19] Elena: Evolution [00:48:21] Adam: Always changing [00:48:21] Elena: Happiness [00:48:22] Adam: State of mind [00:48:23] Elena: Soul [00:48:24] Adam: What we all have [00:48:25] Elena: Gratitude [00:48:26] Adam: The best [00:48:27] Elena: Authority [00:48:28] Adam: To be challenged [00:48:29] Elena: Leadership [00:48:30] Adam: Directing [00:48:31] Elena: Parents [00:48:33] Adam: Caregivers [00:48:34] Elena: Authenticity [00:48:35] Adam: The highest level of consciousness [00:48:37] Elena: I love that. Food [00:48:39] Adam: Substance for life [00:48:40] Elena: Identity [00:48:43] Adam: What you make of it [00:48:44] Elena: Husband [00:48:45] Adam: Complimentary [00:48:46] Elena: Wife [00:48:47] Adam: Also complimentary [00:48:48] Elena: Empowerment [00:48:49] Adam: Education [00:48:50] Elena: Pleasure [00:48:51] Adam: The seed of the soul [00:48:53] Elena: Pain [00:48:54] Adam: Reminders [00:48:55] Elena: Sex [00:48:56] Adam: Pleasure [00:48:57] Elena: Money [00:48:59] Adam: Material worth [00:49:00] Elena: The body [00:49:02] Adam: The representation of God [00:49:03] Elena: Conversation [00:49:04] Adam: Connection [00:49:05] Elena: Manhood [00:49:06] Adam: Coming of age [00:49:07] Elena: Birthright [00:49:08] Adam: What we're all here for [00:49:10] Elena: Intimacy [00:49:10] Adam: Connection of oneself through another [00:49:14] Elena: Wealth [00:49:15] Adam: The combination of material and spiritual together [00:49:18] Elena: I love that answer. Polygamy [00:49:21] Adam: Interesting [00:49:22] Elena: Monogamy [00:49:24] Adam: Standard [00:49:25] Elena: Death [00:49:26] Adam: Inevitability [00:49:27] Elena: Life [00:49:27] Adam: The journey [00:49:28] Elena: Last but not least, love [00:49:30] Adam: It's the highest calling of everything [00:49:32] Elena: Hmm. Adam, how can people find you? [00:49:35] Adam: They can find me on social media, on either TikTok or Instagram or, uh, YouTube, The Spiritual Chiropractor. [00:49:44] Elena: Oh, I love that. I will say, and philosopher, you know, which is very spiritual. [00:49:51] Elena: And to close this episode, I would love for you to give us your wisdom. Anything that you wanna say and leave our audience with. [00:50:01] Adam: Whatever you decide to do in life, be the best at it and do it with love. [00:50:06] Elena: Thank you. Remember, whatever you decide to do in life, be the best and do it with love. Thank you for being such a generous, gracious and authentic. [00:50:20] Elena: You're very authentic. I love that. [00:50:21] Adam: Thank you. [00:50:22] Elena: I wanted to have you here. Finally got it. And when you come back, I'm not gonna ask you all these questions because- [00:50:28] Adam: That's okay ... [00:50:28] Elena: we're done with that, unless I change them, but- [00:50:30] Adam: That's okay. Yeah ... [00:50:31] Elena: it's interesting. I appreciate that you've been here. Thank you for that. [00:50:34] Elena: It's an honor for me, and I really welcome you back when, 'cause you have a lot to say, so let's talk more- [00:50:41] Adam: I would love to ... [00:50:41] Elena: and have a nice and intimate conversation. [00:50:43] Adam: I would love to. [00:50:44] Elena: And for all of you listening, remember, the spiritual doctor- [00:50:48] Adam: Uh, The Spiritual Chiropractor ... [00:50:49] Elena: the spiritual chiropractor, pardon me. Oh, wow. [00:50:53] Adam: It's okay. [00:50:53] Elena: Yeah, I need a prescription for memory. The spiritual chiropractor and- Please keep in mind that movement probably is what will keep you alive, and if you want an adjustment or wanna be touched by a doctor, go to the chiropractor. It'll get an adjustment. Your hands are gonna be in your body. [00:51:15] Elena: I'm not promoting anything. I'm just saying that sometimes the healing comes from the hands. And with that, thank you, and I will look forward to share another episode with you. Take care. [00:51:29] Voiceover: And that's a wrap on today's conversation. These are the kinds of exchanges that don't happen by accident. They happen because Elena Sofia Ruiz creates the space for them. [00:51:40] Voiceover: If something landed for you today, don't keep it to yourself. Share this episode with someone who's ready for a real conversation. You'll find everything you need in the show notes. We'll see you next time on Intimate Conversations With Men.