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Ian Furness 10/19 H2: Hardcore Football with Hugh Millen · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, Tonight 515, 49ers hosting the Commanders, Niners
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Speaker 2: are undefeated, Washington looking for its second win of the season.
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Speaker 2: You guys know when the first one was. We don't
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Speaker 2: have to dwell on that. Mike McDonald made it clear.
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Speaker 2: We'll hear more from him in a second. Sam Donald's
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Speaker 2: still the quarterback. Jalen Hurts, scary story out of Philadelphia.
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Speaker 2: Initially described as superficial blood clots, now he will miss
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Speaker 2: the rest of the season. They discovered multiple blood clots
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Speaker 2: bad if you're playing a contact sport. So he's done
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Speaker 2: for the year. There's probably more to that story coming, too,
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Speaker 2: why he was even playing in the game before. Huskies
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Speaker 2: got the first win in Big Ten play Friday, beat
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Speaker 2: Purdue 38-26. Elijah Brown over 300 yards passing, three touchdowns,
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Speaker 2: three interceptions. Mon Williams, a question mark there. Speaking of
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Speaker 2: college football, Miami, the new number one in the country,
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Speaker 2: And how about Alabama, five and two. Drops seven spots
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Speaker 2: Chris Beller, by the way, fired as the GM of
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Speaker 2: 2.40 today. But let's get to Hugh Mellon.
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Speaker 1: Now here's Hugh with Ian Furness on Sports Radio 93.3
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Speaker 2: Hardcore Football. We wait till Monday. That way we can
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Speaker 2: all take a deep breath. Right, Hugh? Deep breath after Friday.
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Speaker 2: After Thursday night. Deep breath. Watch how everything else plays
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Speaker 2: out of the weekend. I still haven't got over the
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Speaker 2: damn 49er game. And you know the worst thing is?
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Speaker 2: It's like you're eating me up, man. Well, those two
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Speaker 2: things happened like five days apart. That's the worst part, right? God,
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Speaker 2: just getting kicked in the face twice in the course
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Speaker 2: of less than a week's time? That's no fun, Hugh. Well,
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Speaker 2: in the 49er thing, you've got a quarterback in Brock
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Speaker 2: Purdy that should have been having to field questions like,
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Speaker 2: what is your Mike McDonald problem? Yes.
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Speaker 3: They scored 11 points and I would like to know
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Speaker 3: if they even could have scored 11 had they not
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Speaker 3: been free to exhale because of all the turnovers. The 18, 11,
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Speaker 3: and 0 yard drives by the 49ers to put touchdowns
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Speaker 3: on the board. So, at any rate, I know that's
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Speaker 3: long in the mirror, but just me being candid, it's
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Speaker 3: still chewing at me, man. I tell you, so this
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Speaker 3: sports fan thing can be rough.
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Speaker 2: And, you know, Hugh, I mean, I think you're speaking
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Speaker 2: for a lot of fans. A lot of fans are
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Speaker 2: thinking the same thing. I want to start, we're going
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Speaker 2: to go a little bigger picture today, a little broader scope,
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Speaker 2: and I'll let, kind of, Hugh will kind of dictate
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Speaker 2: where we take this, but I do want to start
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Speaker 2: with this. This is Friday, Friday morning, late morning on Friday. Normally,
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Speaker 2: after a game. It's a Monday at 3 that Mike
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Speaker 2: McDonald speaks to those of us in the non-flagship radio
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Speaker 2: station world, the rest of the media. Since I didn't
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Speaker 2: have a show at 10 o'clock in the morning, I
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Speaker 2: actually got to jump on along with Craig Bell and others.
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Speaker 2: We've got about a minute 21, and I want to
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Speaker 2: play this with Mike McDonald and just get your reaction,
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Speaker 2: and we'll kind of take it from there. But here's
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald Friday morning, Hugh. Mike, on the last interception,
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Speaker 2: what did you see looking back on it, and how
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Speaker 2: would you just describe your confidence level right now and
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Speaker 2: Sam and us also his confidence level because it feels
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Speaker 2: like that's pretty important for that position.
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Speaker 4: Yeah I think I think it's a similar answer to
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Speaker 4: what I was what I told Brian was I think
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Speaker 4: there's things that we can all do to help Sam
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Speaker 4: play better football and we trust Sam we believe in
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Speaker 4: him and we feel like we feel like he's definitely
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Speaker 4: part of a solution you know in terms of us
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Speaker 4: playing better football on offense and at quarterback Seahawks style
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Speaker 4: offense that uh we all envisioned.
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Speaker 3: When hi mike what you say sam's uh best chance
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Speaker 3: for the solution he's you believe he's part of solution
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Speaker 3: what about sam's game makes him the solution what are
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Speaker 3: the traits that you're now trying to draw an attack
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Speaker 3: that you're not getting.
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Speaker 1: Right now.
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Speaker 4: Well i mean you guys have been here over the
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Speaker 4: last two years we just won a world championship with
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Speaker 4: them um We believe in the guy. We see him
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Speaker 4: every day. We see what he does. We see the
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Speaker 4: plays he's been able to make. We see the actual talent.
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Speaker 2: All those things.
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Speaker 4: That's where my mind is.
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Speaker 2: All right, Hugh. Thoughts on all that? Well, in watching
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Speaker 2: the tape, and we'll get to.
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Speaker 3: Some of the positives and what have you, but I
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Speaker 3: know that everybody's just we're honing in on this turnover,
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Speaker 3: this interception problem and what Sam Darnold did. I mean,
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Speaker 3: he went 58 and a half minutes without turning the
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Speaker 3: ball over and then with a minute and 30 to go.
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Speaker 3: And then in overtime, he had the two interceptions. And,
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Speaker 3: and so you're sitting there saying, Hey, what is the impulse?
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Speaker 3: What's driving it? And I, I, I think there's a
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Speaker 3: relatable experience that we've all had that at least Like
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Speaker 3: a Venn diagram, there's some similarities. Obviously, it doesn't need
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Speaker 3: to be stated that there's a lot of differences, but
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Speaker 3: I'll just speak for me. We've all been going down
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Speaker 3: a boulevard, let's say at a 50-mile-an-hour boulevard. We're humming
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Speaker 3: pretty good, and the light turns yellow. And you're right
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Speaker 3: in that spot of like, okay, do I go for
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Speaker 3: it or.
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Speaker 1: Do I stop?
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Speaker 3: And for me, I'd gone through my whole life and
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Speaker 3: never got a ticket for running a red light. Now,
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Speaker 3: I'd had a few speeding tickets. I don't want to
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Speaker 3: paint myself as a saint, but I'd never had a
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Speaker 3: red light ticket. And then these cameras come in, the
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Speaker 3: camera variety, and I end up getting a ticket. And
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Speaker 3: then kind of considering how it's going to impact insurance,
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Speaker 3: I realized my best course is to take a four-hour
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Speaker 3: online course to get rid of the ticket. We'll turn
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Speaker 3: around about 18 months later. I did it again and
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Speaker 3: I had to do it four hours again. Now I've got,
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Speaker 3: you know, now I got them off my record, but
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Speaker 3: now it's got me freaked out. Like now, now the
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Speaker 3: light turns yellow and I just slam on the break.
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Speaker 3: Even if, you know, I got plenty of time.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: And so a quarterback is constantly like every pass play
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Speaker 3: you're dealing with that. The light just turned yellow. Hey,
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Speaker 3: do I go, do I, am I aggressive? Like there's
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Speaker 3: reason for some caution. Or like, no, no, that yellow
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Speaker 3: light has got to, it's really a yellow that should
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Speaker 3: be interpreted as a red. And you're having this microprocessing
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Speaker 3: in fractions of a second all the time. And so
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Speaker 3: if you go back to Darnold on the first interception,
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Speaker 3: on the third down there, it's a very well-designed play
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Speaker 3: where they motion cup across. He's the primary guy. And
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Speaker 3: by the way, Helani, you know, I want to say
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Speaker 3: God bless him. I'm not sure if I would really
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Speaker 3: be sincere if I said that. You know, he's got
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Speaker 3: to cut the defensive end. And, you know, he's very
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Speaker 3: poor technique. He comes to balance, comes to a stop,
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Speaker 3: and then lunges, completely whiffs. And so that causes Darnold
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Speaker 3: to come off of the primary. The cup was wide open. Now,
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Speaker 3: I could make an argument that even with– the whiff
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Speaker 3: of a pass block on the edge and the guy's
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Speaker 3: right in front, he just lob it over his head.
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Speaker 3: But then that, that introduces new problems for a quarterback again, like, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, the light just turned yellow and you're going
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Speaker 3: 50 miles an hour. Uh, like if I lob it
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Speaker 3: and there's a, and, and I misread it, well, that's
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Speaker 3: going to be an easy pick six.
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Speaker 2: So, so he comes off of that.
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Speaker 3: And then right there, there is a split second, like,
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Speaker 3: like fractions of a fraction of a second where he
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Speaker 3: has to say, hey, do I run this thing or
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Speaker 3: do I stop? And he chose to run it. And
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Speaker 3: he threw it out there. Horton had a lousy route.
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Speaker 3: He didn't, as Herbstreet indicated, he didn't really stick the route.
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Speaker 3: And he allowed the guy to come underneath him. But
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Speaker 3: even at that, if you're evaluating from the end zone
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Speaker 3: copy with the quarterback, you got to just say, Hey, that's, that's,
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Speaker 3: that's a red light, put on the brakes and come
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Speaker 3: to a stop. And, and, and so you're trusting the
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Speaker 3: quarterback that these, these decisions are made and yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: I could see why you want to run through the intersection.
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Speaker 3: All I can say this, if your front wheels aren't over,
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Speaker 3: and this is what I learned, if your front wheels
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Speaker 3: aren't over the crosswalk, then you just bought yourself four
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Speaker 3: hours of freaking time on an internet course.
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Speaker 2: And that's costly.
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Speaker 3: Well, you just bought the Seattle Seahawks an interception, and
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Speaker 3: that's really costly to the entire football team and everybody
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Speaker 3: rooting for it, right? And so the costs are somewhat
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Speaker 3: related that way. And you just got to trust the guy. Like, dude,
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Speaker 3: we put the ball in your hands. Now, the second interception,
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Speaker 3: it's third and seventh. seven 17 to go in overtime.
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Speaker 3: And the balls on the right hash snapped it to
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Speaker 3: 28 yard line. He's trying to hit Shahid on what's
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Speaker 3: called a whole shot. Now, a lot of our listeners say,
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Speaker 3: I've heard that term, and a lot of our listeners
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Speaker 3: know what that means. But for those who don't, let's
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Speaker 3: get on the same page. A hole shot is the following.
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Speaker 2: Just checkmark.
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Speaker 3: All of these things have to be present to call
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Speaker 3: it a hole shot. It has to be a go route.
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Speaker 3: It has to be the widest receiver. I mean, if
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Speaker 3: you had a stacked formation, it could be the inside guy.
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Speaker 3: But basically, we're talking about the outside receiver on a
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Speaker 3: go route.
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Speaker 2: Got me?
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 3: And it's got to be against what's called a cloud coverage,
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Speaker 3: where the corner has flat responsibility and the safety has
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Speaker 3: responsibility over the top of that.
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Speaker 2: Got me?
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 3: So that's a zone. So those principles or those attributes
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Speaker 3: are present in a hole shot. And from a quarterback standpoint,
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Speaker 3: you've got to get the ball up. You have to
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Speaker 3: drive the ball up. with enough velocity to beat the
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Speaker 3: safety because he's moving laterally, but you have to have
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Speaker 3: enough touch to throw it over the corner, who is
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Speaker 3: what's called sinking. He's going to redirect at the line
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Speaker 3: of scrimmage. These are football terms. The cloud corner is
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Speaker 3: going to sink, which means continue to get depth, and
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Speaker 3: he's going to be looking inside for somebody in the flat.
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Speaker 3: But depending on how the route combination develops in front
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Speaker 3: of him, he's going to keep sinking. Which is, again,
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Speaker 3: getting depth. So the net-net, the final, I would say
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Speaker 3: for Sam Darnold to have chosen to throw the whole
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Speaker 3: shot there when the defense was playing as well as
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Speaker 3: it could. If you punt, there's still seven minutes to go.
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Speaker 3: You probably get a three and out, and you get
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Speaker 3: a chance to re-rack it on offense and go down,
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Speaker 3: kick a game-winning field goal. Because that's all it would take, correct?
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: So all of this has to be in Sam Darnold's calculus.
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Speaker 2: It has to be.
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Speaker 3: The situation in the game has to be part of
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Speaker 3: all this. And so for him to get him back
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Speaker 3: to the light, for him to take that yellow light
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Speaker 3: and think it's more of a green yellow light as
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Speaker 3: opposed to a red yellow light, he went green light
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Speaker 3: on that yellow light. And in looking at it, I
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Speaker 3: would just say he's either would have had to get
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Speaker 3: it up. He went three steps in a hitch from shotgun,
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Speaker 3: which is equivalent of five steps and a hitch from
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Speaker 3: under center.
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Speaker 2: That's too late.
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Speaker 3: So he would have had to have such a, that
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Speaker 3: ball would have had to have been completed at about
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Speaker 3: the 41 or 42 yard line. So you're talking 14
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Speaker 3: yards from the line of scrimmage that he would have
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Speaker 3: had to get that ball up and down so fast that,
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Speaker 3: If I look at it, and I've looked at it
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Speaker 3: 50 times, is there a chance to get that hole shot?
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Speaker 2: My answer is yes.
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Speaker 3: If you have the anticipation of Dan Fouts, and I'm
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Speaker 3: not a big Fouts fan. I thought he had this choppy,
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Speaker 3: like when I was a kid, I hated Dan Fouts. A,
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Speaker 3: because he's so damn good, but he's just clunky. There's
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Speaker 3: nothing smooth. He's like the anti-Joe Montana. So I don't
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Speaker 3: like Dan Fouts, but he's the best anticipatory quarterback I've
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Speaker 3: ever seen in my life. So he would have had
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Speaker 3: to have Dan Foutsian anticipation with John Elway velocity. Like
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Speaker 3: you are narrowing that window so damn tight. And now
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Speaker 3: the other thing, the other option, if he thought the
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Speaker 3: safety was flat enough, he could have gone up and
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Speaker 3: over the top deep down the sideline and forced the
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Speaker 3: safety who he thought was going flat to turn and
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Speaker 3: run and make a play over his head. So he
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Speaker 3: could have chose to throw it deep down the field.
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Speaker 3: So he got caught in like there's the two completions
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Speaker 3: would have been if he got it is either really
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Speaker 3: fast on the whole shot in front of the safety
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Speaker 3: or really high and deep over the top going to
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Speaker 3: a speedster in Shahid deep down the field.
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Speaker 2: He did neither.
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Speaker 3: He did like dead in the middle, which was an easy,
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Speaker 3: you know, as I said, if the DB wanted to
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Speaker 3: clown him, he could have raised his hand as a
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Speaker 3: fair catch, right, before he caught the ball. And so,
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Speaker 3: you know, Jaquan McMillan is the guy I'm referencing. And
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Speaker 3: so getting back to, okay, if you're Mike McDonald and
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Speaker 3: you're watching this tape, And you just go, look, I
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Speaker 3: get it. Every time you snap the ball, it's like
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Speaker 3: going 55 miles an hour down a Boulevard and the
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Speaker 3: light turns yellow. And you've got to make that decision
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Speaker 3: over and over and over again. But what I don't
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Speaker 3: want to do is sit in for a freaking class
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Speaker 3: for four hours and, and, and try and make up
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Speaker 3: that mistake, which is what happens when you get the interception. Um, so, uh,
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Speaker 3: at any event, like he's, he's got a, what's the
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Speaker 3: Dick bear drop. We he's got to get rid of
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Speaker 3: that right now. It feels Ian, like this feels like
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Speaker 3: a fork in the road game to me. This feels like,
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Speaker 3: like the game coming up or last Thursday, this, this
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Speaker 3: coming up this Sunday, this Sunday night.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: It feels like a fork in the road game. Uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, possibly for Darnold, uh, you know, maybe for
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Speaker 3: the 2026 Seahawks because I, I didn't just be, I
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Speaker 3: closed my eyes in a case. What does a win
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Speaker 3: mean for Seattle?
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Speaker 2: Okay. Obviously you're four and three. Now you're feeling good.
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Speaker 2: You got your mojo back.
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Speaker 3: Darnold, you know, he starts, uh, uh, you know, making
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Speaker 3: good decisions when the light turns yellow and, and then, okay,
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Speaker 3: now we're off and kicking and maybe the, the, 49ers
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Speaker 3: boot one or is there want to do they get
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Speaker 3: guys hurt and maybe catch them you know obviously have
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Speaker 3: a chance to play them down there and as much
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Speaker 3: as you dominated them in Santa Clara and week 18
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Speaker 3: last year you feel like okay we can beat them
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Speaker 3: down there we just you know need a little help
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Speaker 3: like like you can you can start to see a
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Speaker 3: nice path for 2026 if you beat the Chiefs yeah
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Speaker 3: you you lose to the Chiefs and and Darnold now
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden the juju in the stadium, I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be shocked if he starts getting booed, if people
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Speaker 3: start saying, you know, Drew Locke, like it's just a mess.
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Speaker 3: So it just feels like more than a game to me.
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Speaker 2: I agree. I'm just looking at just, I'm going to
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Speaker 2: wrap up this real fast because I'm looking at this again,
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Speaker 2: like I haven't watched it 50 times, probably 20 times,
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Speaker 2: but as I'm doing this and I keep freezing it
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Speaker 2: and I'm watching it and you see McMillan come over
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Speaker 2: and I was struck by this even on, on Thursday
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Speaker 2: when it happened live, like this was a time that
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Speaker 2: you really can't blame the offensive line. Like he had, and, and,
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Speaker 2: and I, you kind of answered my question because what
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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you was Shahid, if like, if
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Speaker 2: he just holds the ball for a half a second longer,
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Speaker 2: ain't no way McMillan staying with Rashid Shahid down the sidelines.
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Speaker 2: right uh no because of his angle he would have
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Speaker 2: been up and over exactly right like if you just
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Speaker 2: this like like the first one he's under duress this
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Speaker 2: one he had a pocket like.
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Speaker 3: He had a pocket and uh but the the actual.
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Speaker 2: Now maybe he now maybe he's gun shy you i
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Speaker 2: i i you've been in that pocket i've never stood
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Speaker 2: in a pocket like that you have maybe maybe there's
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Speaker 2: some ptsd going on right there right like it's even
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Speaker 2: if he has a pocket he probably thinks he doesn't
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Speaker 2: have a pocket i don't know I don't know.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of quarterback analysts out there, and there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of good ones. I think– oh, who's the
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Speaker 3: guy for ESPN, former Lions?
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Speaker 2: Oh, Orlovsky. Orlovsky.
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Speaker 3: I think he does a really good job. There's a
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Speaker 3: lot of good analysts out there. And I'm not saying
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Speaker 3: this happened with Orlovsky.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of quarterbacks who will sit there
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Speaker 3: and they'll– try and interpret what a guy is feeling
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Speaker 3: or thinking emotion, you know, even emotionally.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait a minute, I'm not in his head.
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Speaker 3: I don't know his personality. Um, there's some quarterbacks are like,
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Speaker 3: you know, F it, you know, Dan Marino, he's just.
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Speaker 2: He's LTF. Yeah. You know, let the effort fly. Like,
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Speaker 2: like he, you know, he don't care.
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Speaker 3: You can't, it, I don't know what you'd have to
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Speaker 3: do to, um, shake that, that Pittsburgh boy up, um,
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Speaker 3: you know, middle-class, uh, you know, lower middle class Italian freaking,
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Speaker 3: like he was a freaking renegade.
18:45
Speaker 2: He was a dog. Right.
18:46
Speaker 3: Like you couldn't get in his head. But there's other
18:49
Speaker 3: guys that are, you know, more sensitive and what have you.
18:53
Speaker 3: And it's obviously a factor. Well, that's what I'm asking you.
18:56
Speaker 3: You as the quarterback, you've been in that position.
18:59
Speaker 2: But I can only speak to myself. I'm not asking,
19:02
Speaker 2: I'm asking you what you would think. Because you're our quarterback.
19:05
Speaker 2: So you tell me. I mean, is there a chance he's,
19:07
Speaker 2: if it was you, would you be thinking, if it
19:09
Speaker 2: was you, With that offensive line... God, we're waiting for
19:12
Speaker 2: Anthony Bradford to come back. I just said that out loud.
19:15
Speaker 2: With that offensive line, with no running game whatsoever, would
19:20
Speaker 2: you be gun-shy? Would you be like, I probably have
19:22
Speaker 2: less time to get rid of this ball than I should?
19:26
Speaker 2: Would that be going.
19:27
Speaker 3: Through your mind? I started for the Patriots. They had
19:30
Speaker 3: been 1-15 the year before. It's the third, the worst
19:34
Speaker 3: net points in the history of the NFL, and it's
19:36
Speaker 3: the worst since that time. There hasn't been... any team
19:41
Speaker 3: as bad as the 1990 Patriots, and I joined them voluntarily.
19:45
Speaker 3: I had nine contract offers, but I, but that was
19:48
Speaker 3: my best chance to start.
19:49
Speaker 2: So I went there.
19:50
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:51
Speaker 3: You, you play behind a line like that, you know,
19:54
Speaker 3: on the whiteboard in the meeting, they say, okay, here's
19:56
Speaker 3: your one, here's your two, here's your three. And you're like, Oh,
19:58
Speaker 3: that's all well and good, but I might get a
20:01
Speaker 3: chance to get to my number two. I better pick
20:03
Speaker 3: out my number one.
20:04
Speaker 2: Right. By the time I put my back foot in
20:06
Speaker 2: the ground.
20:07
Speaker 4: Right.
20:07
Speaker 2: Right.
20:08
Speaker 3: And so he got hit 17 times. Nick's got hit four.
20:12
Speaker 3: He's the fifth most pressured quarterback in the NFL. When
20:16
Speaker 3: they went on that run last year where the running
20:19
Speaker 3: game was effective, they averaged 4.98 yards per run on
20:24
Speaker 3: first and 10.
20:25
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
20:27
Speaker 3: This year, they're at 2.76. That only sounds like a
20:32
Speaker 3: little over two yards, but that is everything.
20:34
Speaker 2: You know that.
20:35
Speaker 3: That's the difference between being first in the league and
20:37
Speaker 3: last in the league. When they run the ball, they're
20:41
Speaker 3: in second and long. By the way, second and one
20:44
Speaker 3: to six, their success rate on second and medium last
20:48
Speaker 3: year in that run was 73%. Now it's under 53%.
20:53
Speaker 3: So all the numbers, I can keep directing you to
20:56
Speaker 3: these numbers that are going to tell you what you
20:58
Speaker 3: already know, which is the running game is a mess.
21:01
Speaker 2: Okay, hold it right there because I want to get
21:03
Speaker 2: to a break. That's what I want to get to next.
21:04
Speaker 2: I think that's because it's going to be magnified with
21:08
Speaker 2: Ken Walker here this weekend. We all know that, the
21:10
Speaker 2: running game. But I want to come back because you've
21:13
Speaker 2: watched this tape and the simplistic world that I live in,
21:16
Speaker 2: that most fans live in. are saying, well, they can't
21:19
Speaker 2: run the ball because Emmanuel Wilson is slow, Helani's just
21:23
Speaker 2: a guy, and Velas Jones is a former wide receiver,
21:26
Speaker 2: and then the offensive line's bad. Because if you can't
21:30
Speaker 2: run the ball, then that makes that passing game that
21:33
Speaker 2: much more difficult, I assume. But I want to get
21:35
Speaker 2: your thoughts. I want to get Hugh Millen's thoughts on
21:37
Speaker 2: the running game and the offensive line. Because there was
21:40
Speaker 2: more to the McDonald's stuff that I kind of asked
21:42
Speaker 2: him about the offensive line. He brought how it's cumulative,
21:45
Speaker 2: it's all tied in together, which we all get. But
21:47
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts and what your eyes
21:49
Speaker 2: see and help all of us as fans. What's the
21:52
Speaker 2: real issue with the running game? Is it personnel? Is
21:56
Speaker 2: it scheme? Is it the line? I'm sure you're going
22:00
Speaker 2: to tell me some sort of combination thereof, but can
22:02
Speaker 2: we do that? Because I think that goes back to
22:03
Speaker 2: what Sam's struggles are as well. Let's do that next,
22:05
Speaker 2: all right? Rock and roll. That's Hugh Mill, and Hardcore
22:07
Speaker 2: Football continues next.
22:24
Speaker 4: Could the offensive line, can they step their game up?
22:27
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
22:30
Speaker 4: But just to point it on the offensive line, I think, again,
22:34
Speaker 4: same thing with the takeaways with Sam. Does Sam bear
22:36
Speaker 4: responsibility for taking care of the football? Do our runners
22:38
Speaker 4: take care of responsibility for fun with them all?
22:41
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
22:41
Speaker 4: But it's a team game, and how we set our
22:46
Speaker 4: game plans up and how we execute falls on all
22:50
Speaker 4: of our shoulders. So that's how we choose to look
22:52
Speaker 4: through it.
22:54
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald Friday. All right, Hugh Millen. The Seahawks' running
22:59
Speaker 2: game is not good. You mentioned last year. They had
23:03
Speaker 2: this little stretch last year. They had 198 yards against
23:06
Speaker 2: Arizona November 9th, and then it kind of started to
23:09
Speaker 2: tail off, and they reached a low on December 14th
23:12
Speaker 2: against Indianapolis, 49 yards. After that, 171, 163, and 180
23:17
Speaker 2: to wrap up the final three games of the regular season.
23:21
Speaker 2: Then we know what they did in the playoffs as well.
23:23
Speaker 2: But this year, there's no Ken Walker. Your right guard
23:27
Speaker 2: has been out for most of the season. In Anthony Bradford,
23:30
Speaker 2: you've been doing a rotation there with Stevens and Haynes.
23:34
Speaker 2: And you've got no first-round draft pick, Jadarian Price. He's
23:39
Speaker 2: played little to no football at all for this team.
23:41
Speaker 2: When he has, he's put the ball on the turf.
23:43
Speaker 2: But even in training camp, you were here, you watched it.
23:45
Speaker 2: He didn't even participate half the time in training camp.
23:47
Speaker 2: So it's a lot of different things, but I know this.
23:52
Speaker 2: It feels to me like in the NFL, you better
23:54
Speaker 2: be able to have a balanced, at least some sort
23:57
Speaker 2: of balanced offense. In college, you can maybe get away
24:00
Speaker 2: with Lavelle Edwards' old BYU offense and throw in the
24:02
Speaker 2: ball or Mike Leach in the air raid. But even
24:04
Speaker 2: in the air raid, we saw if it snows or
24:06
Speaker 2: it's raining, that's not very effective. You better have a
24:08
Speaker 2: run game, right? But what are you seeing? Offensive line.
24:14
Speaker 2: and running game, and I'll let you kind of take
24:16
Speaker 2: it and kind of twist it in and kind of
24:18
Speaker 2: mold it for us because I know that it's not
24:20
Speaker 2: always related play-action with a lack of running game and
24:24
Speaker 2: all that and the deception, but if you don't respect
24:26
Speaker 2: the run, and nobody would respect the run for Seattle
24:29
Speaker 2: right now, I would think that puts a lot of
24:30
Speaker 2: pressure on your passing game. Yeah, it puts a lot
24:32
Speaker 2: of pressure. Go back to last year, Darnold under center.
24:35
Speaker 3: These are going to be almost entirely play-action. You know,
24:40
Speaker 3: his yards per attempt, you know, 10.7 last year, that
24:43
Speaker 3: was second in the NFL this year, it's off two
24:45
Speaker 3: and a half yards down to 8.2. He, he threw
24:49
Speaker 3: a touchdown every nine throws last year from under center
24:54
Speaker 3: this year, one in every 40, he threw an interception
24:58
Speaker 3: every 27 throws last year, this year, one in every
25:02
Speaker 3: 10 from under center.
25:03
Speaker 2: So, so all of the, the idea, how the.
25:05
Speaker 3: Seahawks want to play and, and, To get under center,
25:10
Speaker 3: the best stretch, the wide zone, works better from under
25:16
Speaker 3: center because it makes the play action. When you turn
25:21
Speaker 3: your back on the defense, the defense doesn't know if
25:23
Speaker 3: you have the ball. So if you have a running
25:26
Speaker 3: back that has the juice to run the scheme, that
25:31
Speaker 3: has the acceleration, because what's going to happen is, let's
25:35
Speaker 3: say we're going stretch left, wide zone left.
25:38
Speaker 1: Right.
25:38
Speaker 2: And we're going to try and go in the direction
25:41
Speaker 2: of Cross. Okay.
25:43
Speaker 3: Charles Cross and maybe A.J. Barner is out there. It
25:45
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You can run it to the open side
25:47
Speaker 3: or to the closed side, with or without the tight end.
25:49
Speaker 3: But the aiming point is going to be the same.
25:51
Speaker 3: It goes to the tight end if he's not there.
25:53
Speaker 3: And the running back is reading the end block. And
26:00
Speaker 3: if they can hook the end, meaning get to his
26:02
Speaker 3: outside shoulder, then now the light is green like, hey,
26:06
Speaker 3: you can get to the perimeter. So now Jadarian Price,
26:10
Speaker 3: he puts on the juice to get outside. But at
26:15
Speaker 3: that point, you have to have that burst. You have
26:17
Speaker 3: to have that turbo button. And then if he reads, hey,
26:22
Speaker 3: we didn't hook him, then you make that decision by
26:24
Speaker 3: the third step. And then on your fifth step, you
26:29
Speaker 3: put your outside leg down and make a forceful cut
26:33
Speaker 3: up the field without slowing your stride down. And you're
26:36
Speaker 3: running at an obtuse angle, which remember now, I know
26:39
Speaker 3: it's a wazoo. That's a reminder from you.
26:41
Speaker 2: It's just any kind of, I would have never mentioned that.
26:44
Speaker 2: And they would have thought that was over your head
26:46
Speaker 2: at wazoo, but it's an.
26:47
Speaker 3: Angle greater than 90 degrees. And so, so like you
26:50
Speaker 3: can do that at full speed. There's just, you know,
26:54
Speaker 3: we're just talking kinesiology. That's why you can do that
26:57
Speaker 3: scheme and never have to slow down, chop your feet,
27:01
Speaker 3: but you've got to have the burst. You've got to
27:03
Speaker 3: have the turbo button. And, You know, Price, I don't
27:07
Speaker 3: have it in front of me, but he was averaging
27:10
Speaker 3: up over five yards on the wide zone. And then
27:12
Speaker 3: now they're under three. And the defense doesn't have to
27:16
Speaker 3: flow as hard. And now the naked bootleg out of
27:19
Speaker 3: the other side, that evaporates because you're not getting the
27:24
Speaker 3: strong flow because nobody fears the speed. And so here
27:29
Speaker 3: they've tied themselves to a scheme that everybody not named
27:33
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price on the field can't run. I mean, hell,
27:36
Speaker 3: even when Vellis Jones, remember what Herbstreet said? He said, wow,
27:40
Speaker 3: that just looks different. You know, you got a guy literally,
27:43
Speaker 3: you know, a converted receiver. You can't be more, quote, unquote,
27:47
Speaker 3: off the street than Vellis Jones.
27:49
Speaker 2: Yep.
27:50
Speaker 3: But we've got a, you know, in ESPN's eyes, they're
27:53
Speaker 3: number one analysts, at least in college level, and, you know,
27:57
Speaker 3: making good money sitting next to Al Michaels. And he's
28:00
Speaker 3: sitting there going, after one carry, he just goes, wow,
28:03
Speaker 3: that looks different. because it looks different to all of
28:08
Speaker 3: our eyes. We see that there's not, all of us see,
28:12
Speaker 3: there's no speed to make the scheme work. And so
28:16
Speaker 3: this is what Darnold is dealing with. And so even
28:19
Speaker 3: while we spent the first segment dissecting the mistakes he
28:23
Speaker 3: made and how somehow we've got to just trust him like, hey,
28:28
Speaker 3: You got to take into account the time of the game,
28:31
Speaker 3: what you see, and if a throw is possible, but
28:36
Speaker 3: it's going to take Dan Fouts' anticipation with John Elway velocity,
28:40
Speaker 3: then you got to just say.
28:42
Speaker 2: You know, that would be like, you.
28:44
Speaker 3: Know, hitting when you have a 17 or an 18.
28:51
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, if you got a three, you're going to
28:54
Speaker 2: get a 21. But, dude, play the odds. Mm-hmm.
28:58
Speaker 3: Like don't expect that you're going to make a miracle throw.
29:01
Speaker 3: So somehow that's what you're entrusting. The entire franchise is
29:05
Speaker 3: entrusting the quarterback to make those decisions.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yellow light.
29:10
Speaker 3: Is it more red or is it more green? And
29:12
Speaker 3: by the way, you can't– Bo Nix lived in– every
29:15
Speaker 3: time he saw a yellow light, he interpreted that as
29:17
Speaker 3: a red light. So I'm not– that's why quarterbacking is
29:20
Speaker 3: hard is because you can't be endlessly– conservative either at
29:29
Speaker 3: some point you got to go try you know big
29:31
Speaker 3: game hunting a little bit right I can't feed your
29:34
Speaker 3: family you got to go get some completions down the
29:36
Speaker 3: field but it's knowing when to hold and when to
29:40
Speaker 3: fold them. God dang, that sounds awful. But it's really,
29:44
Speaker 3: here I keep searching for analogies. We all know it.
29:48
Speaker 3: But this is, you know, having been in that pocket,
29:52
Speaker 3: you know, I did a lot of time holding clipboards.
29:54
Speaker 3: But the times I was in the pocket, you know,
29:56
Speaker 3: that's what quarterbacking is. It's just it's a micro fraction
30:00
Speaker 3: of a say, hey, do I have a shot down
30:03
Speaker 3: the field or do I need to just check it down? And,
30:09
Speaker 3: you know, Sam thought he had a shot down the field.
30:12
Speaker 3: And by the way, I didn't get to one note.
30:15
Speaker 3: I would rather if I was his quarterback coach. I
30:18
Speaker 3: would rather have Darnold tell me, hey, they had a
30:21
Speaker 3: quick motion getting back to that second interception. Sorry, Ian,
30:25
Speaker 3: but I think there's importance.
30:27
Speaker 2: No, it's fine. Go for it. It's a little off
30:28
Speaker 2: the outline. Go for it.
30:29
Speaker 3: But getting back to that second interception, because it's still
30:32
Speaker 3: fresh in everybody's mind, right? The overtime interception. I would
30:35
Speaker 3: rather have him tell me, hey, when Cup did that
30:41
Speaker 3: quick motion to the outside and the Broncos changed their
30:45
Speaker 3: structure immediately before the snap, I in watching the end
30:50
Speaker 3: zone copy, Darnold was looking down the middle of the
30:52
Speaker 3: field and there's a safety there. Brandon Jones, who who
31:00
Speaker 3: who went to the middle of the field because he
31:03
Speaker 3: saw trips receivers to he saw Shahid and he saw
31:06
Speaker 3: JSN and he saw Cup to his right. So he
31:10
Speaker 3: was pushing to the three receiver side. He had no
31:12
Speaker 3: speed to his left.
31:13
Speaker 2: He had Barner.
31:14
Speaker 1: Right.
31:14
Speaker 3: And this this how they talk. They say, hey, hey,
31:16
Speaker 3: I got speed it. one, two, and three to my right,
31:18
Speaker 3: but no speed on my left. So he would push more.
31:22
Speaker 3: I would rather have Darnold say to me as the
31:24
Speaker 3: quarterback coach, you know what? I misread the coverage. I
31:29
Speaker 3: thought it was a single safety defense because the safety
31:33
Speaker 3: on the other side came down in what would be
31:36
Speaker 3: called three buzz. That would be like in softball, your
31:40
Speaker 3: left center fielder at the pitch, you know, at the
31:44
Speaker 3: lob pitch in softball, He came running down from left
31:47
Speaker 3: center to play shortstop. That would be the equivalent of
31:51
Speaker 3: what people call three buzz. The safety comes down to
31:56
Speaker 3: take what's called the hook zone, which is a shallow zone.
31:59
Speaker 3: I would rather have Sam Darnold say, I thought they
32:02
Speaker 3: were in three buzz and that they busted it and
32:07
Speaker 3: I didn't know the safety was there. I would rather
32:10
Speaker 3: have him tell me that because that would make more
32:12
Speaker 3: sense than have him tell me, Yeah, I knew exactly
32:16
Speaker 3: what the coverage was. I saw that safety there. I
32:19
Speaker 3: just thought I could beat him because that would make
32:22
Speaker 3: me go, oh, damn. At a critical moment in the game,
32:27
Speaker 3: how did you think you were going to get that
32:29
Speaker 3: completion based on that throw? Because to get the completion
32:33
Speaker 3: against that coverage, as we said in the first segment,
32:35
Speaker 3: it had to be a lot.
32:36
Speaker 2: Earlier or a lot later.
32:39
Speaker 3: And so I literally would rather have him tell me,
32:41
Speaker 3: you know what? I thought it was three buzzes. I
32:44
Speaker 3: thought I had three buzz. That would make me feel
32:47
Speaker 3: more relieved.
32:49
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. We'll take a break. We'll
32:51
Speaker 2: come back and put a wrap on things and look ahead.
32:54
Speaker 2: The Ken Walker revenge game. Oh, God, Hugh, all week.
32:56
Speaker 2: We're going to hear that all week long. We'll get
32:59
Speaker 2: to that coming up next. Hugh Millen, Hardcore Football, wrapping up,
33:16
Speaker 2: final segment. Let me just put a final wrap on
33:18
Speaker 2: Sam Darnall. What's your recommendation there to Sam, to the team,
33:22
Speaker 2: et cetera? What's your recommendation?
33:24
Speaker 3: Well, I look at the defense, and they're clearly in
33:27
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl winning window, right?
33:30
Speaker 2: Yes.
33:32
Speaker 3: I think it's important to be playing the quarterback position
33:35
Speaker 3: for the now. You know, if you were thinking, oh,
33:39
Speaker 3: we're an ascending team and we'll be in a Super
33:41
Speaker 3: Bowl window in a year or two, you know, maybe
33:43
Speaker 3: things are different. But to me, I would look and
33:46
Speaker 3: say Darnold has proven it. We've talked about the running game.
33:52
Speaker 3: Let's get Jadarian Price back. He's averaging to just house cleaning.
33:57
Speaker 3: He's 4.6 yards per carry on the wide zone. Emmanuel
34:01
Speaker 3: Wilson is under 3.2, and Helani's under 2.2. Uh, so
34:06
Speaker 3: 4.6 for Jedi and price, uh, Kenneth Walker last year
34:10
Speaker 3: was 4.8. So not, not terribly far under I'd want
34:13
Speaker 3: to get price in there, get the, the, uh, pass
34:16
Speaker 3: blocking better. They, you know, they threw four 51 times
34:19
Speaker 3: the other day and he said, well, it was overtime. Well,
34:20
Speaker 3: they 48 and regulation that that that's not what they
34:23
Speaker 3: want to be. They want to be under center more.
34:25
Speaker 3: They want to get that play action going. And, and
34:27
Speaker 3: so I would, I would stick with Donald. I'm not
34:29
Speaker 3: making that kind of a hasty move with, with a
34:32
Speaker 3: 29 year old who's still, you still got another year
34:34
Speaker 3: on his contract. He might have five, six, seven good
34:39
Speaker 3: years left in him. Now, this can't go on forever,
34:43
Speaker 3: this turning the ball over thing, running the red lights.
34:47
Speaker 3: But for now, I would not be hasty. I would
34:51
Speaker 3: be exactly where Mike McDonald is. Everything he said, I
34:54
Speaker 3: would just be, yep, that's my recommendation too. Not that
34:59
Speaker 3: I would be asked, but if I were asked, that
35:01
Speaker 3: would be my thought.
35:02
Speaker 2: The.
35:04
Speaker 2: How much do you think a healthy Jadarian price changes
35:08
Speaker 2: the dynamic of what they're doing?
35:10
Speaker 3: I think it changes a lot. You need to have
35:15
Speaker 3: that type of acceleration. Remember now, Kenneth Walker, I believe
35:20
Speaker 3: at 1.50, he had the second fastest initial 10 yards
35:26
Speaker 3: of his 40 at the combine of any running back
35:31
Speaker 3: since in the last 10 years. And You know, so
35:35
Speaker 3: that speed factor, not just the long speed that he has,
35:39
Speaker 3: but the burst to make that scheme work.
35:43
Speaker 1: Yes.
35:44
Speaker 3: Not every back has it. I mean, the market spoke
35:47
Speaker 3: on Emmanuel Wilson. He's a million and a half dollar
35:49
Speaker 3: running back.
35:49
Speaker 4: Yes.
35:50
Speaker 3: You know, Helani is a line. I don't want to
35:53
Speaker 3: beat up on him. So that's why you you got
35:57
Speaker 3: Jadarian Price in the first round is to bring an extra,
36:02
Speaker 3: you know, spice to that. scheme that you want to run,
36:04
Speaker 3: which is the wide zone. So, and so don't invent. Yeah, that,
36:09
Speaker 3: that there's my answer. And I just wanted you to
36:12
Speaker 3: reiterate that. Cause I think you did a really good
36:13
Speaker 3: job of articulating that even in the last segment. But
36:15
Speaker 3: I just want, the next question would be same question.
36:19
Speaker 3: What does Zach Charbonnet do to this offense? If he
36:21
Speaker 3: comes back this week? Well, you know, I've been extremely
36:26
Speaker 3: consistent with all throughout. I said, they're both second round picks.
36:31
Speaker 3: I think they were separated by 10 or, 15 selections.
36:35
Speaker 3: To me, Kenneth Walker runs like a first-rounder. I said
36:38
Speaker 3: numerous times to my eyes that he's a top-five back
36:42
Speaker 3: in the league. And even when there was some games
36:47
Speaker 3: where it looked like he wasn't hitting the hole, Mike, hey,
36:50
Speaker 3: he's still the most talented guy. I think there's enormous–
36:53
Speaker 3: I know at one point, I know for a fact
36:54
Speaker 3: that I said, I think Walker's a first-rounder and Charbonnet
36:58
Speaker 3: runs like a fifth-rounder. Like Charbonnet is a good number
37:02
Speaker 3: two running back, which is what you get in the
37:04
Speaker 3: fifth round. And that's just my take with my eyes.
37:10
Speaker 3: And now Charbonnet is much better than what we have,
37:14
Speaker 3: so it will be a welcome sight to get back.
37:16
Speaker 3: But he's a year older, and he's coming off of
37:19
Speaker 3: not one but two torn ligaments. So if I had
37:23
Speaker 3: that assessment about him a year ago when he was
37:26
Speaker 3: perfectly healthy, how would I ever think that he's going
37:29
Speaker 3: to be– some kind of a savior. It's still a problem.
37:33
Speaker 3: If he's your running back, if Zach Charbonnet is even
37:36
Speaker 3: last year's version of, of Zach Charbonnet to me is
37:41
Speaker 3: not that that's just stop gap.
37:43
Speaker 2: Yes. If you're a Superbowl team, it's, it's, you're waiting
37:46
Speaker 2: on price. You're waiting on price. It's better than what
37:48
Speaker 2: you have, but you're waiting on price.
37:50
Speaker 3: And I, I gotta tell you, I, I don't, I,
37:52
Speaker 3: it's just confounding to me why this is so difficult
37:55
Speaker 3: to understand the decision Seattle had to make in the
37:57
Speaker 3: off season. That, Nobody is saying that Seattle should not
38:03
Speaker 3: have signed Witherspoon or JSN or even Leonard Williams. I
38:06
Speaker 3: don't hear that from anybody. I don't think it. You
38:09
Speaker 3: don't think it. You don't talk about it. That is
38:12
Speaker 3: not part of the calculus. But to say that you
38:15
Speaker 3: didn't on some level choose between Rasheed Shaheed and Kenneth Walker,
38:21
Speaker 3: that's silly. Of course you did. I think it's just
38:24
Speaker 3: the simple thing. They just don't value that position. They
38:26
Speaker 3: never have you. for second contracts. That's, I mean, that's
38:29
Speaker 3: just a John Schneider. I mean, it's, I mean, I
38:33
Speaker 3: can't believe you'd be a Seahawks fan, not have wanted
38:35
Speaker 3: Ken Walker back. I think we all, I mean, to
38:38
Speaker 3: say anybody would have been distant, like we were all
38:40
Speaker 3: disappointed when he left.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: I just, at the same time, I wanted him. Yeah.
38:44
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I interrupted, but they wanted him back. Yeah.
38:47
Speaker 2: You know, let's, let's go down to 8 million. Yeah.
38:51
Speaker 3: That the 8 million was their threshold. That's still, more
38:56
Speaker 3: than five times as much as they paid Emmanuel Wilson.
38:59
Speaker 3: So they wanted him back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: At what price?
39:01
Speaker 3: And they would have signed him had there been no
39:05
Speaker 3: salary cap.
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Speaker 1: Yep. Right?
39:07
Speaker 3: So then when you look and you say, okay, well,
39:09
Speaker 3: but we don't want to pay a running back. Well,
39:11
Speaker 3: you kind of do. You would have paid $ 8 million
39:13
Speaker 3: for him. The Chiefs obviously paid $ 14 million. So you
39:18
Speaker 3: absolutely looked at your situation and you said, let's replace
39:22
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker through the draft. in the person of Jadarian
39:25
Speaker 3: Price with with a first round draft pick, you could
39:28
Speaker 3: have said, let's sign a 25 year old Kenneth Walker
39:32
Speaker 3: and replace Rashid Shaheed in the draft. Now that doesn't
39:36
Speaker 3: mean a first rounder because he he's bringing receiving and
39:40
Speaker 3: punt return ability. I've looked at the guys who were
39:43
Speaker 3: the top punt and kickoff return guys. You know, you
39:46
Speaker 3: get a, a returner in the third or fourth round and,
39:49
Speaker 3: And you find a number two receiver. That could have
39:52
Speaker 3: been their course, is to replace Shahid through other means.
39:57
Speaker 3: They chose to replace Kenneth Walker with a first-rounder. And
40:01
Speaker 3: a guy that we talked on night one was 10
40:04
Speaker 3: pounds below his listed weight from the combine to his
40:07
Speaker 3: listed weight in the program at Notre Dame, 213 to 203.
40:12
Speaker 3: And then eyeballing him, the legs kind of look more
40:15
Speaker 3: wide receiver-ish than running back-ish. So we've been talking about
40:19
Speaker 3: the durability question with Jadarian Price from the jump.
40:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, from that night.
40:26
Speaker 3: And that he had the third highest fumble rate in
40:28
Speaker 3: the class. And by the way, Kenneth Walker, in his
40:30
Speaker 3: entire NFL career, how many lost fumbles did he get?
40:33
Speaker 2: That would be zero, my friend. That would be zero.
40:35
Speaker 2: That would be zero. Real fast, 69% to 31%. That
40:37
Speaker 2: was Haynes-Stevens at right guard. Do they just have to
40:45
Speaker 2: make a damn decision if Bradford doesn't come back and
40:46
Speaker 2: stop doing this mess around with flipping these guys? We
40:51
Speaker 2: got like a minute.
40:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
40:52
Speaker 2: What do you think? I don't feel strongly about that. Okay, okay, okay.
40:55
Speaker 3: You know, I think they're probably feeling Stevens, you know,
40:59
Speaker 3: as a first-team All-American.
41:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Wasn't he on the Joe Moore? But a
41:04
Speaker 2: day three pick, Hugh. A day three pick for a reason.
41:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oluwatimi won the Remington. He won the Allen too,
41:12
Speaker 3: didn't he?
41:12
Speaker 2: I think he did.
41:13
Speaker 3: I know he won the Remington, and he was a
41:14
Speaker 3: fifth rounder. So sometimes the league looks and says it
41:17
Speaker 3: doesn't translate.
41:17
Speaker 2: I get that.
41:18
Speaker 3: But I think that they probably feel like they've seen
41:21
Speaker 3: more of Haynes, that Stevens may have more of an upside.
41:25
Speaker 2: It's a good question. Um, I'm sorry.
41:27
Speaker 3: I haven't given a lot of thought. I, you know,
41:29
Speaker 3: the right guard to me, um, you know, Bradford is a,
41:32
Speaker 3: is a mauler if he, if, if he's in a
41:35
Speaker 3: phone booth, but in the running game, if he has to,
41:38
Speaker 3: when he has to go to the next level, he,
41:40
Speaker 3: the athleticism is subpar passing game.
41:43
Speaker 2: Um, what have you.
41:44
Speaker 3: So, so he's limited in his skillset and it's, it's
41:48
Speaker 3: really just moving the guy right in front of them.
41:50
Speaker 2: But, you know, the.
41:51
Speaker 3: Screen game, you know, anything requiring athleticism in space, he becomes,
41:59
Speaker 3: you know, sub-average real quickly. So, you know, the right
42:02
Speaker 3: guard is just, you know, he can't be great everywhere,
42:04
Speaker 3: and right guard has been a hole for a number
42:06
Speaker 3: of years there.
42:07
Speaker 2: Humile and hardcore football, great stuff as always. More at four,
42:10
Speaker 2: I think, with Softie today, right? I think so, yeah.
42:12
Speaker 2: And I would assume more at four that you'll be
42:15
Speaker 2: touching in on the Husky quarterback situation. Ashley, what did
42:17
Speaker 2: you say Jetfish said today? that DeMond Williams is back
42:20
Speaker 2: to practicing. They don't know if he's ready for a
42:22
Speaker 2: game yet, but both quarterbacks will be splitting snaps. Okay,
42:26
Speaker 2: so I'm sure that'll be something you guys hit on
42:27
Speaker 2: more for tonight. We will indeed. There are two weeks
42:30
Speaker 2: away from playing, and there's no reason for him to
42:32
Speaker 2: announce a quarterback. That is a promise. We will touch
42:34
Speaker 2: on that. That is a whole different can of worms.
42:36
Speaker 2: my friend. I'll let you guys, I'll let you Motley
42:38
Speaker 2: guys deal with that stuff. All right. That's great stuff, man.
42:41
Speaker 2: There you go. It's Hugh Millen, Hardcore Football. We'll do
42:42
Speaker 2: it again next Monday. Take a break, come back. Mike Sando, man,
42:45
Speaker 2: a lot going on in the NFL, including a change
42:47
Speaker 2: at GM already. We'll talk about that next.