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CIA Wuhan Whistleblower #15 Dr. Sherri Tenpenny · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Okay, a good place to start here is
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uh you see this uh massive hearing, this
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major hearing.
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And you know, uh really about a uh
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truth be told here, Rand Paul is the
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one senator who has stayed on this thing
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amongst others.
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He's been he's he's in those cartoons, uh
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the wily coyote and the and all where
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he's just chasing uh Fauci down the down
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the road there is the way I see
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that one there.
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But let me just read you this to
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start off here with uh this uh hearing.
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And these are his opening remarks, uh, Chairman
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uh Rand Paul here, okay?
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The COVID-19 pandemic was one of the most
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consequential events of our lifetime.
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And to this day, the American people have
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never received a full accountant of where it
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came from, what our government knew, or why
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they had to fight their own government to
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find out, right?
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Today, this committee will hear from an intelligence
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community whistleblower about those questions.
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The witness will testify that CIA scientific analysis
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repeatedly concluded that a laboratory leak was the
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most likely origin of COVID-19, and that those
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conclusions were buried softened or withheld from Congress
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while the public was told to trust a
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different story.
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Boy, isn't that the truth?
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How many times have we talked about that
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story here?
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Welcome into America Out Loud Pulse here, Project
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Out Loud as Malcolm Out Loud here.
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And I've got Dr.
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Sherry Tenpenny in the house.
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First time we've ever talked on air, huh?
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Yeah, it is.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for inviting me.
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It's a privilege.
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I just uh you always have a warmth
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about you and a sense about you when
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you're on here.
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You do your people love you.
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You have I was talking to someone the
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other day, so I'd love to meet her.
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I'd love to meet her.
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I never met a uh uh like-minded person,
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but anyways, it's good to have you here.
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All right, so this hearing, um, you know,
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this is something we'll get into the pardon
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and all that when it comes to Fauci
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and and lot, there's a lot to that
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context here.
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But this whistleblower was quite extraordinary.
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Uh, the name again is Erdwin, I believe.
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Is it Erdwin?
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Uh Sherry, I believe.
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Uh Doc um the guy's name there.
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It's uh something Erdwin the third.
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Yeah, I remember the third.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And uh yeah, it is there it is,
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James Erdman Erdman.
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Yeah, okay.
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And he is the whistleblower.
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So I watched it as well.
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You did.
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What was your what was your takeaway early
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on on this thing?
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Well, I I found it just uh just
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as it started completely disturbing that not one
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Democrat showed up for the entire hearing.
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Now, sometimes in those hearings, you know, people
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kind of float in and float out and
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have their minute of fame and shake their
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fists and yell at the at the person
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that they're interviewing, but not one Democrat, the
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entire it was about an hour and a
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half uh hearing, not one Democrat showed up
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for the entire thing, which I found really
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appalling.
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And then very at the end, when Senator
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Johnson read something from his phone of a
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text message from someone that's inside the CIA
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that was claiming that this was not a
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whistleblower hearing, it was just grandstanding, and that
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the person who was the whistleblower was doing
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it there without permission.
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If you're gonna be a whistleblower, who do
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you need to get permission from?
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And you know, they were just making a
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mess of the whole thing.
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And I think that at least the senators
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that were there, unfortunately, there's only five of
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them, they're really really angry about what has
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happened.
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And you know, when Johnson started out by
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saying, who is the deep state and who
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are the people that are pulling all the
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strings and making this happen?
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Uh, you know, um, ignoring um uh foyer
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requests or whatever other type medical record record
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requests from Congress, ignoring laws, turning down things,
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still stale uh stalemating and stalling, and then
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when they wanted all the records, come all
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the records uh about COVID uh about that
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they had about COVID-19, and they send them
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five pages, most of which was redacted.
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And even the whistleblower said, well, the first
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tranche would have been 2,000 pages.
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And you know, Senator Paul says, I've been
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trying to get the original records from 50
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years ago on the on the church committee
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about you know, all of the reviews that
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they did.
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He sent to a room that has 400
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banker boxes in it and said, here it
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is.
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You know, it's it's the you know, the
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the lifer bureaucrats that are in charge of
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our country that you know, we we, you
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know, so all this voting and all the
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campaigning is just theater because it doesn't matter
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who we elect, they're not in charge.
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The people that are in charge are the
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lifer bureaucrats run by our fascist government, big
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tech, big ag big chemical, big food, um,
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the defense industry, you know, they're the ones
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with the money and they're the ones pulling
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the strings.
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Yeah, it feels like we are.
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It feels like we've lost control.
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We the people I'm speaking about.
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Yeah, yeah, we the people have lost control
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of this.
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And it's it's been building for a long
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time, Sherry, as you say.
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Um, it has been, but it becomes very
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clear in a case like this, the political
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posture in that you're speaking about right there.
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Let me ask you this here.
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And I I I I always I try
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my goal is to try to not make
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everything so political because, but it is.
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I mean, it everything is political.
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So, but fair question here.
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Uh you talked about how they weren't in
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the room at all.
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And they've done that a few times in
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certain specific cases where they're sending a message.
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And I always wonder to myself, what kind
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of message are they sending to the American
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people with that?
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And how do they come to the conclusion
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of doing something like that?
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Because really, as an American, as an and
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a representative, you'd think they would be as
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concerned as anybody would be to be able
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to have the truth come out, because unless
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they are part of the culprits who did
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the bad deed, what the hell is it
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off of them to not have the truth
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come out?
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So it makes no sense to me at
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all.
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So why is it?
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Do you have any inclination as to why
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they're always on the side?
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It seems to me, and maybe I'm they're
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always on the side of the criminal, it
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seems.
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It's uh I don't in every aspect of
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life.
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It seems like the left, it I don't
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why is that?
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Do you find that?
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I don't know why it is, but it
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certainly has gravitated that way in the last
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20 or 30 years, you know, probably since
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Clinton became into came into office in 94.
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It kind of started there.
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And then, you know, we had, you know,
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Obama, I call him Obumber, Obama and uh
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Biden, and you know, all the stuff that
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happened during the election fraud and and all
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of those things.
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It's just, you know, the Democratic Party.
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Now, people that remain Democrats, they remember the
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John F.
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Kennedy Democrats and before that were were social,
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Democrats and before that were were social, uh
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uh socially adept, uh, always trying to help
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socially adept, uh, always trying to help the
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the down guy, and that the Republican Party
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down guy, and that the Republican Party was
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was kind of the fascist party with big
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kind of the fascist party with big tech,
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tech, big money, big business, you know, Wall
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big money, big business, you know, wall street,
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Street, you know, all those sorts of things.
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you know, all those sorts of things.
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But it's really flipped.
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But it's really flipped.
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They've totally flipped.
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They've totally flipped.
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Yeah, yeah, they totally flipped.
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Yeah, yeah, they totally flipped.
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The radical left have uh swallowed the Democrat
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The radical left have uh swallowed the Democrat
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Party whole.
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Party whole.
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So the party, as you just referenced of
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So the party, as you just referenced of
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JFK is long gone.
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JFK, is long gone.
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I mean, it's just gone.
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I mean, it's just gone.
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Nobody would recognize it.
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Nobody would recognize it.
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And I
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And I feel kind of bad.
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I don't know about you, Sherry, but I
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kind of feel bad.
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I've got friends that are in that left
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center, kind of center.
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They call themselves independent, but they really vote
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Democrat, but they call themselves independent, kind of
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thing.
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And I've got some friends like that that
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are I've known for years, 25, 30 years,
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you know, and and they all have TDS,
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by the way.
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They all have TDS, they just can't get
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over whatever it is that's going on with
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that.
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And uh, and and yet they they um
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they they're very hard fast on uh uh
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they they don't have a political party right
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now uh to represent them, is what I'm
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suggesting.
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They they're sort of floating out there.
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They they don't have um uh you know,
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it seems like the party has gone in
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a direction and they've lost complete track of
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what's happened.
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It's like it's like Rip Van Winkle.
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You wake up so many years later, you
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know what the hell happened here.
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It's kind of what it is with these
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people.
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And I kind of feel them sometimes a
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little bit like what you know, but they
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can't seem to get on with it.
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Now, at the same time, listen, in all
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fairness, the Republican Party has changed as well
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a lot.
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That is totally they're not the same party
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that they were, let's call it 20 years
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ago, even or 30 years ago.
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They're not the same party today.
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They're both changed dramatically.
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You just pointed that out uh very clearly.
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But but it seems like the radical left,
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which is the the globalists, extremists uh have
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swallowed that party whole and they seem to
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be intimidating many others that are in that
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center aisle or just left of center, don't
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you think?
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Oh, a hundred percent.
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You know, they it's um, you know, I
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I really feel badly right now for our
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country.
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You know, I we have a lot of
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this maha mega, still people that are rah-rah,
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it's so good off of these little winds
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that we have.
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And I call them little winds.
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It's it's it's um there are things that
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need to be changed, but they're like um
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just nibbling around the edges of things like
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the food pyramid and changing, you know, getting
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um nutritional education in medical schools and taking
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out red dyes and things like that, they're
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important.
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Everything that's screwed up, basically is what you're
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saying.
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They're trying to fix it.
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What I'm saying is that they're important that
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uh, but they're not monumental, and it's because
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you know, I think that that Secretary Kennedy
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has been told that these are the things
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that you're allowed to address.
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And you know, on my show that I
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have on America Out Loud, you know, I
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interview authors is my niche, niche that I've
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done there.
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And some of the authors that I've had
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on recently, you know, that talks about the
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about the Arabella uh groups and you know,
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the 150 some groups that are funded by
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the radical left, and um the George Soros
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agenda and um the red tsunami that um
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that um uh Casey Fleming wrote, and you
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know, the the um the the false flag
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about the real what is really behind the
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pride agenda, you know, there's some pretty heavy
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duty hitters that I've I was just gonna
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say you've been learning a lot, haven't you?
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I have I've learned a lot, and not
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a lot of it's been good.
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You know, I'm glad that I still have
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one day a week that I talk to
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pastors or our our authors that write from
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a biblical and faith perspective because that keeps
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me floating.
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But what I was starting to say is
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that they all paint uh this a similar
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uh picture from a different angle that you
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know, the CCP has been pounding on America
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for 40 years, the pride agenda has been
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pounding on America for you know 30, 40
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years, uh the Soros agenda and everything that's
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been happening there, that it's like death from
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a thousand cuts of what's happening, and that
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um Casey Fleming says that he feels America's
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already had 950 out of those thousand cuts.
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And I've uh St.
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John talks about that our um educational system
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is just it should be a five alarm
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fire because we're graduating 180,000 socialists every single
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year, and because that's what they're teaching them
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now in high school, and then going into
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college, it's even worse.
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And those kids in another five or seven
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years are going to be on city councils
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and the directors and making their way up
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the ladder, and the problem gets worse, and
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the problem gets worse.
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Yeah, so it's um yeah, you know, America
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really is uh on a five-alarm fire, and
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I hope that people understand you can't change
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a problem unless you understand it.
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And we have to understand the fact of
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of the things that are happening inside of
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big government, inside of the pharmaceutical industry, big
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egg, big chemical.
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You know, we beat back those the group
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of activists out here.
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There was a couple thousand of us that
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beat back that pesticide um immunity bill, and
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we beat it back, but it's not over.
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They're gonna keep trying to recycle it so
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that if that gets passed, that they get
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complete liability protection on 55,000 chemicals, 55,000 chemicals
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that could make you sick, cause seizure disorders,
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cause cancer, and you have no recourse for
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them.
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Yeah, these little things, as you call it,
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uh the red dyes, what you just speak
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about there, a lot of things that are
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wrong with geoengineer and this kind of thing.
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Uh, they're not really small in my world.
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They're things that have uh we've gone uh
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astray in so many ways.
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And and these kinds of things are killing
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people.
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I think correct me on this here, uh,
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but I think it's why we're having uh
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it's why our our health care in this
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company, you talk about a five-alarm fire.
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That's why our health care in this country
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is a disaster.
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And the way people, I mean, we're it
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seems like I don't know, we make some
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inroads, Sherry a couple of steps forward, but
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it seems like we're always taking more steps
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backwards sometimes than we're taking forward.
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I there are good people, as you said
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just suggest, that are moving the ball forward,
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and we got a lot of them on
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our network, in fact, that are doing those.
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No doubt about it.
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But the system seems to be against us
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in many, many ways.
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You're exactly right.
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And it sucks.
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I mean, that people have to see go
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through this.
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I mean, this is why you've got cancer
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and diabetes and cholesterol and obesity, and so
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many things that are wrong with so many
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people.
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And I I go, I just go bananas
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over this stuff.
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And we as a as humanity, as good
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people, I tell this to McCullough all the
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time.
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We should be doing a hell of a
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lot better here.
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And it's it really does uh unsettle me
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for one, Sherry, you know.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
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And I I think that the solutions have
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to come from um, you know, politics is
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f is national, but solutions are local.
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Local.
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And it has to come with our our
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local school boards, our what happened's happening in
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What's happening in our local communities, what we're
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our local communities, what we're allowed to happen
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allowed to happen here, uh, and a community
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here, uh, and a community level, then a
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level, then a county level, and then perhaps
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county level, and then perhaps at a state
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at a state level, but it's you know,
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level, but it's you know, we gotta we
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we gotta we gotta clean up our own
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gotta clean up our own house in our
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house in our own back door first.
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own back door first.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, as you say, we live and we
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Well, as you say, we live and we
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learn.
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learn.
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Uh one of the problems I see, sure,
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Uh one of the problems I see sure
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that I talk about listeners hear me uh
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that I talk about listeners hear me uh
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talk about this a bit is the um
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talk about this a bit is the um
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it it I'd like your perspective on this
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it I'd like your perspective on this a
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a bit.
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bit.
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Part of our problem and challenge uh is
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Part of our problem and challenge uh is
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that.
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that uh Americans have short memories, very short
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memories.
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And we it we tend to be very
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optimistic people.
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I know I am in my life, like
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I would have everything you just said a
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moment ago.
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I would have loved to have said, uh,
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Sherry, I just agree with you, you're full
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of it, uh, but I couldn't, you know.
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But I would love to do that because
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I'm an optimist and I love our country
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and I love my life and I love
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people.
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And so I would love to say, Sherry,
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you're full of it.
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Why why are you talking that way?
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But it you're it's the truth, it's where
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we're at right now.
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So you kind of can't say that maybe
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at a different time, maybe I don't know.
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But uh, so you know what worries me
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is people move on with their lives.
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Americans are very resourceful people, they are very
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typically optimistic people, and we tend to look
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at our country, the American dream.
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We want to move the ball forward.
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We're very forward thinking people.
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I love Americans, I love we the people,
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and uh, I I just think it's a
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you it's the it's the um it's the
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fight in us, Sherry.
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It's our souls, it's our it's our hearts,
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it's our commitment to this dream and to
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this great nation.
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And and we've I don't think we've ever
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lost that as a people.
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I think we fight for it all the
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time.
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It's freedom never was free, it never will
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be free as we fight the bandits coming
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in the door here constantly.
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But that was always the the plan here
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from the framers and the founders.
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They knew what the world was, they knew
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it was a fight of good and evil.
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This whole thing is a fight of good
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and evil.
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It's always going to be a fight of
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good and evil, and we have to push
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back on the evil constantly, constantly.
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And we do that's the fight of this
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network, it's a fight of my life, it's
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the fight of the shows I do.
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It's good and evil, totally.
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I mean, it's what I do.
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Uh, but the short memory thing worries me.
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And to the point of this, we talk,
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you know, I you know we've had a
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steady drip drip drip fight here uh with
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our shows and our network, and we have
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such a diversity of talent and people, and
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and really pushing hard on a lot of
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these things out there.
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But I give you an example here.
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Um and you know, Fauci has been the
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poster child of this disaster.
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Uh um, he's the cat, he's the character
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that millions of Americans love to hate, uh,
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kind of thing, you know.
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I mean, he's just one of those characters
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that people point out.
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He seems to be at the center, the
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nemesis.
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He's like the like the villain in the
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cartoons, you know.
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He's always like, he is like the villain.
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Uh, and you know, he always shows up
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and you see his face, and he's sort
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of smug.
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He has a very smug, sort of like
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uh, you know, I'm better than Vow, or
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I know I'm getting away with murder, but
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it's okay.
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That's a that's definitely it.
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Yeah, kind of it's like it's like really
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horrible stuff when you see him, and and
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what uh what happens here?
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This gets under the skin of people.
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This really gets under people like you and
17:17
I and many others uh in our circles
17:19
here, it gets under our skin because we
17:21
don't like that sort of villain.
17:24
We don't we don't like that.
17:25
Uh we we we route for the winners
17:26
and the heroes.
17:28
So here's this other piece that I'll unwind
17:29
you in a moment here.
17:32
Uh so on January 20th, uh 2025, uh,
17:35
President Joe Biden issued a preemptive pardon to
17:37
Dr.
17:41
Anthony Fauci, protecting him from potential criminal prosecution
17:44
regarding his role in the COVID-19 pandemic response.
17:49
The the status now, as of May 2026,
17:52
as we talk here, is despite the pardon,
17:55
reports indicate that the Department of Justice has
17:58
considered new criminal cases.
18:01
They're they're looking at everything very clearly, trying
18:02
to see.
18:04
Although the preemptive pardon generally cannot be undone,
18:06
they say, and this is very unusual.
18:10
This preemptive pardon is not a normal thing.
18:12
And I remember when they did it, they
18:13
thought it's just gonna fly or not.
18:15
Nobody really knew.
18:16
This was a whole gray area, so nobody
18:18
really, really knew.
18:20
And uh in the New York Post, they
18:22
say about that, by the way, whether the
18:25
DOJ decides to charge Fauci or not, I'm
18:27
not letting up, Rand Paul says.
18:30
In fact, later this week, I'm holding a
18:32
hearing with a whistleblower.
18:34
This was just early this week, by the
18:36
way, this past week here.
18:37
Maybe the American people will finally get the
18:39
answers they've been looking for.
18:41
One issue complicating Fauci's possible prosecution is the
18:43
fact that Biden on January 19th granted him
18:45
that pardon for offenses spanning the proceeding 10
18:47
years.
18:50
Now, what what we what we all were
18:52
shocked about at that point is if he
18:55
didn't do anything, why do you need a
18:57
pardon?
19:00
I and why a preemptive part, and which
19:02
is nothing normal about this, nothing normal about
19:04
this.
19:07
Why would you need that?
19:08
What purpose does it serve?
19:10
What are you telling us?
19:12
And then their answer back to that was
19:14
well, it's that rascally Trump, that rascally Trump
19:17
might do something.
19:20
That's they blame everything on Trump, basically.
19:22
That rascally Trump might do something that is
19:25
uh against the norms, not like we would
19:27
do anything against the norms, Sherry.
19:30
Not on the radical left, they would never
19:31
do anything against the norms.
19:33
They're perfect people, but but uh but just
19:35
in case that rascally Trump does anything against
19:37
the norms that we got to have that
19:40
preemptive pardon.
19:42
I about fell on the floor when I
19:43
seen this thing happen.
19:45
I thought, you you bastards can't get any
19:47
worse than you possibly do when you do
19:49
things like this, and you do it right
19:51
in the face of everybody, right in the
19:53
light and light of day on on right
19:54
right in the middle of the intersection of
19:56
America.
19:58
You do this stuff, and you and you
20:00
and the worst part about it is here's
20:02
what I want to ask you here.
20:04
You know darn well, up to this point
20:08
now, they almost exclusively get away with everything.
20:13
I mean everything.
20:15
They have gotten away with everything, Malcolm, everything.
20:17
There hasn't been one single arrest.
20:19
You know, Fauci's assistant the other day got
20:22
charged, but you know, he got in charge
20:24
with an indictment, but so what?
20:27
You know, he'll probably get off.
20:29
Like you you started this by saying Americans'
20:33
memories are really short, you know, and and
20:36
it's um um and people we had a
20:40
collective bad experience globally during COVID.
20:43
We had a collective experience that everybody on
20:46
the planet at this time will always remember
20:49
that those couple of years because we they
20:52
lost friends, family members, jobs, uh possibilities, pensions,
20:55
you know, going to church, you know, sitting
20:57
with someone who who died that they weren't
21:00
Sitting with someone who who died that they
21:00
even allowed to say their goodbyes.
21:01
weren't even allowed to say their goodbyes.
21:03
I mean, we lost everything.
21:03
I mean, we lost everything.
21:05
Are people still remembering that though?
21:05
Are people still remembering that though?
21:07
Just let's stop there.
21:07
Just let's stop there, slow that down just
21:08
Slow that down just a sec there.
21:08
a sec there.
21:09
Yeah.
21:09
Yeah, not they're really not.
21:10
They're really not.
21:10
No, thank you.
21:11
No, thank you.
21:11
Thank you.
21:11
Thank you.
21:12
But they're that what they're saying is like,
21:12
But they're that what they're saying is like,
21:14
okay, that's behind me now.
21:14
okay, that's behind me now.
21:15
Let's move ahead.
21:15
Let's move ahead.
21:16
Exactly.
21:16
Exactly.
21:17
And the problem with that is huntavirus.
21:17
And the problem with that is huntavirus.
21:20
And there's no accountability.
21:20
And there's no accountability.
21:22
And the problem is now huntavirus.
21:22
And the problem is now huntavirus.
21:24
Yeah.
21:24
Yeah, yeah.
21:24
Yeah.
21:24
Because they don't realize that what they set
21:24
Because they don't realize that what they set
21:27
up was a template, a reproducible template of
21:27
up was a template, a reproducible template.
21:29
fear.
21:31
You know, it's a Hegelian principle, problem reaction
21:33
solution.
21:35
The problem, oh, we have another bad pathogen,
21:37
and we're going to crank up the fear.
21:40
You know, reaction.
21:41
Oh, the problem is a pathogen.
21:43
The reaction is crank up the fear.
21:45
The solution is a vaccine.
21:47
And they've got we have this, they have
21:49
this template that people have used.
21:51
I wrote a I wrote a substack uh
21:53
Saturday, and it's been picked up and it's
21:55
been just blowing everywhere.
21:57
It's really blown the lid off.
21:59
With and the title of it is Hontavirus,
22:01
have we learned nothing?
22:04
Nothing.
22:04
Yeah.
22:05
You know?
22:05
Yeah.
22:06
And hard to say if anybody has learned
22:07
anything.
22:09
They're not going to be able to pull
22:11
the same game off with this one, however,
22:13
because it doesn't have the transmission cycle that
22:14
this other thing had.
22:17
And now they can try with some of
22:18
the fo the PCR tests.
22:20
There's talks about them coming out with those.
22:22
And as you say, uh the big farmers
22:23
already trying to figure out how they can
22:25
do mass-produced vaccines and kind of roll that
22:27
out.
22:28
And people start to get weird with this
22:29
stuff.
22:30
And they really think, I mean, you it
22:32
again, as Dr.
22:34
McCullough has been speaking about and and myself
22:36
on pulse on a micro lot pulse and
22:38
other things here.
22:40
This is not really a person-to-person context sort
22:42
of virus.
22:44
I mean, it's it's very limited to what
22:45
it can do with that.
22:46
It's really rodent to person kind of thing,
22:48
unless you keep dead bodies on a boat
22:50
for three weeks, okay?
22:52
And then you have another problem, and that's
22:53
another story.
22:55
And they actually did that, they kept the
22:56
dead bodies on there.
22:58
I mean, why you would do that is
22:59
beyond me.
23:01
And they kept people on there and others
23:02
on there and just paraded the boat from
23:04
being thing to thing to thing, and then
23:06
locked everybody up and wouldn't let leave the
23:08
boat.
23:10
Uh, in fact, we talked about it last
23:12
two episodes over the last two weeks, and
23:13
we had both said, and I don't know,
23:15
I don't know about you, Sherry, but if
23:16
Dr.
23:18
McCullough and I were on that boat out
23:20
of the sea up in the shore, you
23:21
know, where they were docked, sort of there,
23:23
but you could see the shoreline there, and
23:24
they were holding us hostage.
23:26
We didn't jump right the hell overboard and
23:28
swam to the shore and said, Up yours.
23:30
We're not going to be locked into this
23:31
boat here.
23:32
But you your risk factor went up, went
23:34
up tenfold, hundredfold by being on that boat
23:36
with bodies on there.
23:38
But yeah, but you know, a lot of
23:40
people think they're kind of gonna do the
23:42
same playbook in a lot of areas.
23:45
We talked about that with Ebola, we talked
23:46
about what's the bat thing.
23:48
There was the um was so many of
23:50
these the bat uh the uh the monkey
23:52
pox, the monkey pox the bird flu, bird
23:54
flu, yeah, all those things.
23:57
Yeah, yeah.
23:58
There was there's been a whole bunch of
23:59
them, but uh I don't know.
24:01
I don't think people are up for that
24:02
kind of thing.
24:03
Do you?
24:04
I don't think well, I've been saying for
24:06
you know, five years now.
24:08
Fool me once, shame on me, fool me
24:10
twice, ain't gonna happen.
24:12
And I'm hoping that enough people will stand
24:13
up and laugh at this.
24:15
There's been a lot of activity on X
24:17
and on Instagram of people saying this is
24:19
just nonsense.
24:21
You know, my first thought when all this
24:22
started happening on a cruise ship, and I
24:24
I've taken a lot of cruises in my
24:25
life.
24:27
Yeah, when I heard this is comes from
24:29
mouse droppings, it's like, well, how unclean was
24:31
that ship.
24:34
Well, hold on now, hold on.
24:35
On that point now, let me let me
24:37
tell you, and uh, you know, I'm sure
24:39
you know all this anyways, but there was
24:41
uh when we uh today's uh okay.
24:43
So the show this past week we did
24:45
uh uh McCullough and I on a micro
24:47
lap post to the point of what you
24:49
just said, there's an interesting learning curve with
24:51
this uh this huntavirus, and all right.
24:53
So for instance, when you have the rodent
24:56
droppings, rodent droppings, and we we don't I've
24:58
never really thought of it in this terms,
25:01
but uh they're active from what I understand.
25:04
Uh two or three days, like if they're
25:06
older, they're not they're they're not radioactive, where
25:08
they're that's it gets into the ear, is
25:11
what happens, it permeates the air, and you
25:13
you're breathing in, you're breathing in this this
25:15
thing here, and then you get the huntavirus
25:18
kind of thing, is what happens.
25:20
But so, for instance, though, but here's the
25:21
learning curve in this thing, which is kind
25:23
of fascinating, actually.
25:24
And and for people who are listening and
25:26
watching this, sorry.
25:27
So, you know, we all go out in
25:28
the garage here in the air, we go
25:30
in the basement, we go in the attic,
25:31
right?
25:32
We go into these places, Sherry, right?
25:35
And there are mice and rats that get
25:36
into these things, and they're in the best
25:38
of neighborhoods, it's got nothing to do with
25:40
the worst of people, they're in the best
25:41
of places.
25:43
In fact, we were reminded, by the way.
25:46
Do you remember that story coming out of
25:47
California?
25:49
Uh, with uh Gene Hackman and his wife
25:50
died.
25:52
Do you know the wife died from the
25:53
hontivirus?
25:55
Yeah, and I and I heard I read
25:56
about that about how that happened.
25:58
I forgot about that, but she died from
26:00
the huntivirus, and of course, he had bad
26:01
dementia and Alzheimer's.
26:03
He was pretty sick in that way, and
26:04
he deteriorated from that because they were there
26:06
for a while.
26:07
Now they found the rodent droppings all in
26:09
her outer elements of the houses, the different
26:11
on the property there, different areas of the
26:13
property where she would go out to.
26:16
She obviously picked it up, and that's how
26:17
she died.
26:19
And it was like, oh my golly.
26:21
So my point is there's a learning point
26:23
to this whole conversation.
26:25
You know, uh, I remember going into some
26:28
boxes in a garage one time, uh, not
26:30
all that long ago, and seeing some drop-ins,
26:33
and I said, What the hell is this?
26:36
And well, sure enough, I don't know what
26:37
it is a mouse, a rat or an
26:38
ostrich.
26:40
I have no idea, but something would have
26:41
come under through the garage door or something,
26:42
you know.
26:44
I I guess I don't know.
26:45
I mean, we don't we don't keep them
26:47
there as company.
26:48
Um, although my college-age daughter loves uh loves
26:50
that sort of thing.
26:53
She looks into all these uh weird creatures
26:54
and stuff.
26:56
Um, my wife and I are more more
26:58
dog people, but she likes all the creatures,
27:01
and but but some care probably wasn't an
27:03
ostrich, but it certainly was something else coming
27:05
underneath the garage, and uh must have got
27:07
into some boxes or something in the garage,
27:10
you know, and we all got now.
27:12
And I I didn't dawn on me to
27:14
connect the dots on that, but hell, you
27:15
have to be careful.
27:17
So, this is a warning to everybody.
27:18
If you're going into a basement, you're going
27:21
into an attic, you're going into a garage,
27:23
you're going into anything that you don't frequent
27:25
a lot, that sort of thing.
27:28
And there's a little character that got in
27:30
there, one of these little rodent fellas, okay.
27:33
They have those droppings in there.
27:35
Now, if you go into some of those
27:36
things and you breathing that in, you can
27:38
get the huntavirus.
27:40
This is not a new virus, it's been
27:41
around forever, it's been around a long, long
27:43
time, as you know, right?
27:44
Dr.
27:44
Tenpenny, right?
27:46
Yeah, it's been around since they've been tracking
27:48
it since 1993.
27:50
You know, there was a uh outbreak in
27:53
the four corners area out west, and um,
27:55
23 people, 27 people, something like that, and
27:58
uh and a few of them died.
28:00
And a few of them died.
28:01
And so the CDC's been tracking huntavirus infections
28:01
And so the CDC's been tracking huntavirus infections
28:04
on average over 30 years, about 10 people
28:04
on average over 30 years, about 10 people
28:07
die per year.
28:07
die per year.
28:10
It's got a high death rate.
28:10
It's got a high death rate.
28:11
I mean, it's have a high death rate.
28:12
It doesn't have a high death rate.
28:13
Well, hold on.
28:13
Well, hold on.
28:14
Now, I understand from everything I've seen.
28:14
Now I understand from everything I've seen.
28:16
It's about it could be about 40%.
28:16
It's about it could be about 40 percent.
28:18
Is that not true?
28:18
Is that not true?
28:20
Well, let me explain to you how they
28:20
Well, let me explain to you how they
28:22
come up with those numbers.
28:22
come up with those numbers.
28:24
This is how they have this is what
28:24
This is how they have this is what
28:25
they did the same thing.
28:25
they did the same thing.
28:26
I wrote a book in 2005 uh called
28:26
I wrote a book in 2005 called Foul,
28:28
Fowl.
28:29
spelled FOWL, Bird Flu, it's not what you
28:31
think.
28:33
And they did the exact same thing.
28:35
This is their template that they do.
28:37
Okay.
28:38
We get a hundred people that get, let's
28:40
say bird flu or hontavirus or whatever, a
28:42
hundred people that can track the infection.
28:45
You get about 10% of those people or
28:47
10 people that are actually sick enough to
28:48
go to the doctor.
28:51
You get about five of those people that
28:53
are that need to stay home from work
28:55
and they they really are sick.
28:57
You get about two of those people that
28:59
get have to be admitted to the hospital,
29:01
and one dies.
29:03
That is a 50% death rate.
29:05
I see.
29:05
And that's how it gets reported out to
29:07
the general population.
29:08
And they do that over and over and
29:09
over again.
29:11
They did it massively during bird flu in
29:12
2005.
29:14
So those death rates are based on the
29:16
percentage of people that die that are sick
29:19
enough to go into the hospital.
29:21
Okay.
29:22
They're not, it's not like 40% across everybody
29:24
that gets Hontavirus.
29:27
It's of four if four people out of
29:29
a out of a hundred die go to
29:31
the hospital, yeah, and two of them die
29:34
of the four, that's a 50% death rate.
29:36
That's how they crank the fear factor.
29:38
Well, that's part of the fear campaign, right?
29:40
It absolutely is.
29:42
And so when they say 40% uh, you
29:44
know, a 50% death rate, people think 50%
29:46
of the people who get hantavirus are gonna
29:47
die.
29:50
No, it's 50% of the people who are
29:52
sick enough, which is a small little percentage,
29:54
small sick enough to go into the hospital.
29:57
Yeah, yeah.
29:58
So those sort of, you know, you always
29:59
have to look at how they skew the
30:00
numbers.
30:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:02
And use it to uh crank the fear
30:03
machine.
30:05
Um yeah.
30:06
Well, and this is a good point.
30:07
Let me reset the stage here just a
30:08
little bit uh to folks that were talking
30:09
to Dr.
30:11
Sherry Tenpenny right now.
30:12
And uh, you know, as you say what
30:14
you just said, which is a good reminder
30:17
how they uh manipulate everything, basically.
30:19
Uh, and that's what's happening here.
30:21
Uh so um uh Libby, I want to
30:23
give uh a couple of things here.
30:26
I want to first give uh uh Dr.
30:28
Sherry Tenpenny's site out.
30:29
Um, and again, she has a show on
30:32
the on our network on the talk radio
30:34
network and uh plays on iHeartRadio and uh
30:36
and again it is you all should know
30:38
out there, you have the free apps on
30:41
Apple, Android, Alexa, those totally free, and the
30:43
network uh streams there 25.
30:45
You go right to iHot Radio Listener.
30:47
We have also if you go back to
30:50
the uh news site at America Outloud.news, and
30:52
if you hit the listen live button, there's
30:55
an absolutely magnificent world-class media player.
30:57
You can hear this from anywhere in the
30:58
world.
30:59
And I gotta tell you what we have
31:01
listeners all over the world.
31:02
Uh, you can see the analytics light up
31:03
in a lot of these countries and stuff.
31:05
It's quite uh quite interesting.
31:06
People love uh well, people love America and
31:08
they love America out loud, I guess.
31:10
So that's a cool thing.
31:11
Um, but um, all right.
31:13
So uh I want to mention here, uh,
31:16
Sherry, your site is okay.
31:18
Here we go.
31:19
It is uh dr10penny.com.
31:23
Dr 10penny.com.
31:26
And 10 penny is of course just as
31:27
it is, how you spell it.
31:29
And all and these links we'll put all
31:30
in here as well when it goes to
31:32
uh uh to the uh podcast networks and
31:33
all of that.
31:35
But um, Sherry, tell us a little bit,
31:36
take a minute here, tell us about the
31:38
mission because you have a great backdrop, first
31:39
of all.
31:41
Now I didn't talk about that up front
31:44
here, but you you are become uh uh
31:47
uh uh a very recognizable name out there
31:49
and and really fighting against um really a
31:52
lot of things we just talked about the
31:55
medical corruption, uh the vaccine BS.
31:58
You become and a lot of these people
32:00
who do this, they're not anti-vaccine specifically, they're
32:01
anti-bullshit, you know.
32:04
So there's a difference between them.
32:05
Is that is that fair?
32:06
Is that fair?
32:07
Uh, I don't know that there's a difference
32:09
between the two.
32:11
Not anymore.
32:12
There's not, probably not.
32:14
I'm not saying yeah, I wouldn't take one
32:16
of any kind if you handed it to
32:17
me.
32:19
I wouldn't take any of them.
32:20
So people ask me that all the time.
32:22
I never took anything, and my family didn't
32:24
either throughout that COVID scare.
32:26
We stayed away from all of it.
32:27
We're in the percentage, what is it, 20%
32:29
of the country that didn't take anything?
32:31
Is that what the number was?
32:32
80% took them, right?
32:33
I well, that's the number they tell us.
32:37
Okay, you're a little skeptical, I guess.
32:40
About everything.
32:41
I can't imagine why.
32:42
Particularly about that industry, and I have reason
32:44
to be, right?
32:46
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
32:47
Uh, as you've mentioned here, but you've got
32:49
a great backdrop of the things you've done,
32:51
a great career uh spanning so many different
32:53
things, and it's very a great author and
32:55
the work you're doing here.
32:57
What are some of the things I think
32:58
in my world?
33:00
Um it's about a healthy immune system.
33:03
It's what I talk about all the time,
33:04
and that's been my lingo telling listeners from
33:05
the get-go, and that's what my wife and
33:07
I work on.
33:08
It's a healthy immune system.
33:10
It's it's lifestyle, Sherry.
33:11
It's it's it's uh it's lifestyle.
33:13
It's it's walking, it's activities, it's doing things,
33:16
it's taking the right things, it's a balance
33:18
of all those things, eating well.
33:21
It's it's taking responsibility for your own life,
33:23
is what it is, not relying on the
33:25
healthcare system because it that's just not gonna
33:26
cut it for you.
33:29
So, what is your mission within dr10penny.com and
33:31
and maybe list out a product or two
33:34
that you recommend.
33:37
Well, our mission has always been to get
33:39
people more aware of their body and they
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Okay, take you right to the place where
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And that's something people can sign on and
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And that's something people can sign on and
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Is that what it is?
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Is that what it is?
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And there's all kinds of things they get
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And there's all kinds of things they get
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for that.
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for that.
35:17
And how long you've been doing that, the
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And how long you've been doing that, the
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prime membership.
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prime membership.
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Uh, this is our second full year that
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Uh, this is our second full year that
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we've been doing it.
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We were doing, you know, things change, and
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We were doing, you know, things change, and
35:24
we kind of you know, switch it up
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we kind of you know, switch it up
35:25
a little bit.
35:25
a little bit.
35:27
You know, our biggest thing this year, Malcolm,
35:27
You know, our biggest thing this year, Malcolm,
35:28
as you know.
35:29
as you know, has been taking on this
35:32
five day a week interview show on America
35:35
Outloud.news, which is the 10 penny files.
35:37
It's my full-time job, and it's like drinking
35:39
from a fire hose, man.
35:41
It is well, you're you're you're having a
35:42
the the challenge uh with that show, you
35:44
took on a whole lot because you have
35:46
to know what some of the books are
35:48
about as well.
35:49
So you either have to what I find
35:51
in my world, uh Sherry, you either have
35:53
to speed read, speed read like real fast,
35:55
and I've learned to do that.
35:57
I've learned to do that.
35:58
Yeah, I've had to myself.
36:00
There's no because I get books in all
36:00
the time, and I just can't read them
36:01
all.
36:03
Uh, but I'd love to read them all,
36:04
but I can't.
36:05
And then other times you're you you know,
36:07
darn well, you're it's show time, and you
36:09
know, when show time is ready, the curtain
36:11
goes up, you got to be ready, Sherry.
36:13
So many times you're doing a summary, and
36:14
you're have to go and look at the
36:16
summary, and you have to look at whether
36:18
it's the in the book and see, okay,
36:20
this is what the context's about, and then
36:21
lean on the expert to really deliver.
36:24
Well, what we what I do is like
36:25
when we book someone, we ask them to
36:27
send us 10 bullet points of what they
36:29
think their work is important about.
36:31
And then what that helps me do is
36:33
when I read the book, because I read
36:34
all the books and I've learned to be
36:36
a better, much faster reader.
36:37
Wow, and some of us I read five
36:39
books a week, and some of them I
36:41
skim, and some of them are so good.
36:43
I really read the whole really good.
36:46
But from those bullet points that sort of
36:48
directs your reading to look at what they
36:49
really think is important at the end of
36:51
the show, I always say, you know, there's
36:53
a there's millions of books out there every
36:54
year.
36:56
Um, why should people buy your book?
36:59
What you know, what and let them pitch
37:00
it and sell it.
37:02
And that most of the authors do a
37:03
really good job of doing that.
37:05
And or you'll ask them, why did you
37:06
write this book?
37:08
I mean, it's you know, one of my
37:10
favorite books, one of my favorite guests, uh,
37:11
my favorite books, I think that I've read
37:13
in years.
37:15
It's called The National Road.
37:17
And it was about the uh George Washington
37:19
had this vision because when George Washington was
37:21
the president, the far west was oh the
37:23
Ohio, Indiana, you know, the Mississippi River, and
37:26
he had this vision that he had to
37:28
connect the West to the East, or they
37:30
was going to grow up as two separate
37:32
countries.
37:35
So he pushed this whole thing called the
37:36
National Road.
37:38
And this guy named Albert Gallatin, who I'd
37:39
never heard of before in my life was
37:41
one of the most important people in American
37:43
history ever.
37:45
And he was under he was the secretary
37:48
of the treasure underneath Thomas Jefferson and pushed
37:50
Jefferson to fund this national road.
37:53
And this I could talk, I love this
37:54
book so much.
37:56
I could talk about it for hours.
37:57
And at when I asked him why did
38:00
he write this book, he um case um
38:02
Brady is a um he's he's uh uh
38:05
uh got a PhD in history and he
38:08
focuses on early American history and he teaches
38:10
at a community college in Pittsburgh.
38:13
And he said, Well, I see all of
38:15
these young kids that hate America and they
38:17
cannot find anything good about it.
38:19
They want to pull down the statutes, you
38:21
know, this doesn't work, you know.
38:23
Uh capitalism is bad, you know, all these
38:24
different things.
38:26
And he said, and so I want to
38:29
write about some of the really good things
38:31
that have happened in America and how they
38:33
they force these things to happen through hard
38:35
work and physical labor and true grit.
38:38
And I want to lay the groundwork of
38:39
you know the good things that have happened
38:41
in America, and it just was such an
38:43
uplifting read.
38:45
And such I I mean, I started that
38:47
book on a Saturday morning at 10 o'clock.
38:49
I read till 10 o'clock that night, and
38:50
I got up the next morning and I
38:52
started again at noon, and I read till
38:53
I finished it.
38:55
It was so good.
38:56
Now, this is just recent this one here.
38:57
Yeah, it was probably maybe three, four weeks
38:58
ago.
39:00
Yeah, I just looked.
39:01
Is that the one uh that was the
39:03
program that was titled Um George Washington in
39:05
America's first highway west?
39:07
Yes, okay.
39:08
That's with uh Brady Kreutzer.
39:10
Kreutzer, yeah, Brady Kreitzer.
39:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:13
And another interesting thing about him that kind
39:15
of tells a story too, is that he
39:17
said he almost didn't get that book published.
39:19
And I said, Why is that?
39:21
He said, Because the publisher said it was
39:23
too happy, it said too many good things
39:25
about America.
39:27
He said, In fact, I wrote three other
39:30
books, complete books, 80-page book proposals, submitted them
39:32
to multiple publishers and could not get them
39:35
published because they said they were too upbeat
39:38
and too uplifting about early American history.
39:41
Isn't that sick?
39:42
It's really sad.
39:44
Really sad.
39:45
Um that is interesting.
39:47
I I need to connect with that book
39:49
and that author, I think, based on what
39:50
you just said.
39:52
Oh, he's really he was a good interview,
39:53
too.
39:54
Really good.
39:54
You need to have if you want to
39:56
look in for people, I can get you
39:57
some really good people of the people that
39:58
are interviewed.
39:59
You know, Casey Fleming, his book about the
40:02
red the red tsunami.
40:04
Yes, Fleming.
40:05
Now I wanted to ask you about him,
40:06
please, because they his people have been in
40:08
touch with us, and I'm gonna have him
40:09
on at some point.
40:11
I'm very fascinated with it.
40:12
So you're like you connection there, right?
40:14
Good.
40:15
One of the top five interviews I've done
40:17
in the last six months.
40:18
No kidding.
40:19
Why is that?
40:20
Why is that?
40:21
Um, very articulate, very knowledgeable, comes from an
40:23
incredible background, IT.
40:26
And he wrote this book from a perspective
40:28
of you know, America needs he's written it
40:31
as a as kind of a workbook.
40:33
He lays out all this, and then at
40:36
the end, he's got a 60-day solution for
40:38
if we could just get America together and
40:41
understand how infiltrated we are.
40:44
We could we could excuse me, we could
40:46
stop it and reverse it.
40:47
So, and he's very just a great interview,
40:50
very articulate, very well spoken.
40:54
You know, and what I do, Malcolm, when
40:56
I do these, um, we have a master
40:58
spreadsheet that we share that have all a
41:00
list of all these names and things as
41:02
we get them booked on the show.
41:04
Yeah, and after I that after I do
41:06
the interview, I move them from that spreadsheet
41:08
to a different tab on the bottom, and
41:11
I grade the interview.
41:13
I grade the book and I grade the
41:15
interview so that you know, from an A
41:17
plus down to a D, you know.
41:19
So if I'm gonna be out of town
41:20
or if I'm gonna be gone, we can
41:22
and we're gonna rerun a show.
41:24
We pull out the very best ones that
41:25
I don't know.
41:26
It's incredible what you're doing.
41:28
I mean, I've loved, enjoyed seeing this.
41:30
Now, I started watching the Fleming show, and
41:32
I will finish that one for sure.
41:33
And this other one with the that I
41:35
just pointed out with Kreutzer.
41:36
I'm gonna go look at that one.
41:38
I've I'm now very intrigued to do that.
41:40
And if you just go up on the
41:42
menu, friends, and you go up to menu
41:43
talk shows and podcasts and look for the
41:45
10 penny files, uh, is what it is
41:46
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41:48
Sherry Tenpenny.
41:49
Go there and you'll see her whole library
41:50
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41:52
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41:54
Uh, by the way, plays uh 3 p.m.
41:56
Eastern time, uh, Monday through Friday on the
41:59
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42:00
Uh uh talk on America Talk Radio Network
42:02
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42:02
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42:04
Um, you catch them all there, and and
42:04
Um, you catch them all there and and
42:06
all these very intriguing things.
42:06
all these very intriguing things.
42:07
And what I do like about this is
42:07
And what I do like about this is
42:09
she's taken these great books, but she a
42:09
she's taking these great books, but she a
42:11
lot of times you're I love the way
42:11
lot of times you're I love the way
42:13
you mesh it to current day, and you're
42:13
you mesh it to current day, yeah.
42:15
talking about things that are very relevant, which
42:15
You're talking about things that are very relevant,
42:17
is very, very important.
42:17
which is very, very important.
42:19
Uh so uh your topics and your headlines
42:19
Uh so uh your topics and your headlines
42:21
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42:21
are uh are excellent, and uh it just
42:23
comes back to learning more and more about
42:23
comes back to learning more and more about
42:25
what's going on here.
42:25
what's going on here.
42:27
I mean, it's a phenomenal uh footprint of
42:27
I mean, it's a phenomenal uh footprint of
42:28
work here.
42:28
work here going on.
42:30
Just go look at it.
42:31
It's incredible.
42:32
Um definitely one one more plug out here,
42:34
and then I'll change the topic.
42:37
But if for people that are Christian listeners
42:39
that listen on your show, yeah, yeah.
42:41
Um, the there's a book, the interview.
42:43
It's I don't think it's been posted yet
42:45
because we just did it this week.
42:46
I think it's going to be posted next
42:47
time.
42:47
Is that what Pedro Garcia?
42:49
No, it's with uh it's not been posted
42:50
yet.
42:52
Okay, so it's it's uh Todd Hampson, H
42:54
A M P S O N.
42:57
It's called The Nonprofit's Guide to the Rapture.
43:00
It is the best eschatology book I have
43:02
ever read.
43:04
And he's a he's an animator and he
43:06
any an animator and a cartoonist.
43:09
He's got a uh uh his his business
43:12
is Tim Bucktoon, and he does a lot
43:14
of things for in the Christian genre, you
43:16
know, making these little cartoons and stuff.
43:19
So he's taken a very heavy topic and
43:21
made it easy to read and it's enjoyable
43:24
with graphs and charts and all that.
43:26
So if anybody is interested in end times
43:28
and where we are right now, and I
43:30
think a lot of people are questioning that,
43:33
it is probably the best end times eschatology
43:35
book I've ever read.
43:37
Oh, that's interesting.
43:38
Easy to read.
43:39
Um, he's actually written nine books.
43:41
We've already got him scheduled to come back
43:43
on the show with a couple of his
43:44
other ones.
43:45
It's called the nonprofits guide to the rapture.
43:49
All right.
43:49
Well, we we are definitely have a lot
43:51
of Christians uh washing and listening because that's
43:53
the base of our network for sure.
43:55
That's how it was launched.
43:56
Um another thing that we do with that,
43:58
Malcolm is we take all of our because
44:01
we I interview authors, and if you go
44:03
to bookstore.dr tenpenny.com, bookstore, we could we collect
44:05
all the books in one place so that
44:08
people if they listen to the show months
44:10
later, they can instead of searching the million
44:12
books on Amazon, they can find them all
44:15
in one place.
44:17
Right, absolutely.
44:18
All right, fantastic.
44:20
All right.
44:20
So um let's get back to talking about
44:21
some of the things we want to talk
44:22
about before I get to the Hunter virus
44:24
as well and take advantage of this time
44:25
here.
44:26
Uh, serious question.
44:28
Um you have uh seeing the Senate here,
44:31
and first off, with uh Senator Rand Paul
44:34
and with the whistleblower now.
44:37
It has gotten people's attention, I've noticed, uh,
44:40
in the past couple few days here.
44:43
Uh, do you sense anything comes out of
44:46
this, or is this just another fruitless exercise?
44:49
Well, we always have to have hope, don't
44:51
we?
44:53
And I think that I think that this
44:55
hearing was a little bit different than other
44:58
ones in terms of this is a somebody
45:00
who works for the CIA being a whistleblower
45:03
about the CIA.
45:06
And you know, he's kind of taken his
45:08
life into his own hands and is in
45:10
his career by doing that.
45:12
Yeah, you know, because remember, you know, when
45:14
they who is the guy, um, Chuck, um,
45:16
the head of the Senate.
45:18
Um, when he told Chuck Schumer.
45:20
Chuck Chuck Schumer said, you know, you mess
45:22
with the CIA, they have 10 ways for
45:24
100%.
45:26
100% uh to have retribution against you.
45:28
And one of the things he was saying
45:31
in that whistleblower interview was that the whistleblower
45:33
laws really don't protect people.
45:36
So where I think that we will be
45:38
interesting to watch the fallout from this will
45:41
be what happens to him in terms of
45:43
his career and his position and things like
45:45
that.
45:48
I don't know.
45:49
I wrote an entire book called Zero Accountability
45:50
in a Failed System.
45:53
So I'm not it's zero accountability in a
45:54
failed system.
45:56
How big pharma weaponizes vaccines, public public vaccines,
45:59
public health, and the law.
46:01
And so, you know, and I haven't, you
46:03
know, we haven't none of us, we've not
46:05
seen a single arrest.
46:06
No, we've not seen any perp rock walk
46:08
people.
46:09
We don't we haven't seen really anybody even
46:11
lose their job, you know, from any of
46:13
this stuff.
46:14
So no, well, the deep state protects themselves,
46:17
they protect themselves, they they really do.
46:19
And and it really is you you opened
46:21
up early on when we started here.
46:23
You talked about the bureaucracy, and that's exactly
46:25
one of the big points I talk about
46:27
all the time is uh our government is
46:29
run by uh people call it the deep
46:31
state, whatever they call it, there's a lot
46:33
of names for it, actually.
46:35
Uh, but uh it is the bureaucratic state,
46:38
actually, is what's happening.
46:40
These people, the bureaucratic state, they uh don't
46:43
run for elections, they don't have to run
46:46
for elections, and they're embedded into uh oh
46:48
my god, this large beast, this beast being
46:51
the federal government.
46:54
It is a beast, it's got many, many
46:56
tentacles all over the place with all these
46:59
agencies, and they are embedded deep in there.
47:02
And when they don't like an agenda, they
47:04
go against the agenda and they don't follow
47:06
orders, uh, even though they don't answer the
47:08
i mean many times a lot of these
47:10
cats answer really to the executive branch, but
47:12
they really do this to the executive branch,
47:14
and they do what they're gonna do, basically,
47:16
you know.
47:18
And uh, so um yeah, it's a bad
47:20
it's a bad setup.
47:21
And in our country, it's one of the
47:23
things I said with our framers that you
47:25
know, I I I really think in our
47:27
government, it you know, it's just like when
47:29
when when the the uh tide comes in
47:30
with the water, the tide comes in, the
47:32
tide goes out.
47:34
The same thing has to happen with the
47:35
federal government, Sherry.
47:36
And one of the biggest mistakes uh uh
47:38
I think our frame is they we got
47:40
lost in is by letting these people hang
47:42
around too long, these career politicians.
47:44
When you have to leave uh Congress in
47:46
a in a wheelchair, an oxygen tank or
47:49
uh or or a coffin, it's bad news.
47:51
It's absolutely yeah, and we've seen them leave
47:53
that way.
47:55
They sit there forever and they just rot
47:57
out, and there's too many of them.
47:59
Very few, uh, very few are honorable, like
48:02
the honorable uh my friend Senator Ron Johnson,
48:04
who uh frequents here all the time, and
48:07
uh he's one of the few who uh
48:09
will put up the fight, and uh he's
48:12
not a career politician.
48:14
He's like Trump, he's a businessman.
48:16
He's he's a total businessman, he's not a
48:17
politician.
48:18
Uh in fact, he had to convince himself
48:20
and his wife to run the last time
48:21
he wanted out.
48:23
I don't think he's gonna do it again.
48:25
I don't think he'll stay in it.
48:26
I think he's pretty well had enough of
48:27
DC.
48:28
He probably wants his life back, and but
48:30
he's trying to do the best for America,
48:31
actually.
48:33
He's trying to do the best for his
48:34
country for all of us.
48:35
That's what the frame is designed.
48:37
This thing, but the deep state, uh see,
48:39
I don't think not only the president is
48:42
term limit, but I think all of Congress
48:44
should be term limited Senate Congressman, and I
48:46
think the bureaucracy of the agencies you talked
48:48
about moment ago here.
48:51
I believe at a certain level and up,
48:53
and I really mean this at a certain
48:54
level and up in those bureaucracies.
48:56
I'm talking about the upper management of those
48:57
agencies.
48:59
I believe they should be timed out.
49:00
should be timed out.
49:01
You can only be allowed, you cannot sit
49:01
You can only be allowed, you cannot sit
49:02
in a position for 30, 40, 50, 60
49:02
in a position for 30, 40, 50, 60
49:04
freaking years.
49:04
freaking years.
49:06
Okay.
49:06
Okay.
49:06
You can sit there for so we'll get
49:06
You can sit there for so we'll get
49:07
we'll put a number on it.
49:07
we'll put a number on it.
49:08
You can sit there for so long, Sherry,
49:08
You can sit there for so long, Sherry,
49:10
and then you have to depart.
49:10
and then you have to depart.
49:12
Uh, and you can go do something else,
49:12
Uh and you can go do something else,
49:13
whatever it is.
49:13
whatever it is.
49:15
But I I think that's the only way
49:15
But I I think that's the only way
49:17
to clean up tied in, tied out, tied
49:17
to clean up tied in, tied out, tied
49:19
in, tied out, right?
49:19
in, tied out, right?
49:21
Well, and it's fresh ideas and it's fresh
49:21
Well, and it's fresh ideas and it's fresh
49:22
energy.
49:23
energy, and it's um seeing things through a
49:24
And it's um seeing things through a different
49:25
different different lens, you know, brings in, you
49:26
different lens.
49:27
know, uh.
49:28
You know, brings in, you know, uh that
49:30
they've tried that a couple of times, you
49:32
know, bringing in younger people, but as soon
49:33
as they're there, the money starts flowing and
49:35
they get sucked in.
49:38
It's all greed.
49:38
It's all greed.
49:39
I mean how the hell do they end
49:41
up how do they end up on their
49:43
salary ending up with these mansion driven gate
49:45
homes with a wall refrigerated loaded with ice
49:47
creams and gates and houses here and houses
49:49
over here and houses there.
49:52
I'm these are ultimately so like AOC she's
49:55
a multimillionaire many times over she couldn't even
49:57
pay the the the the bar bill at
50:00
the bar she worked at for God's sakes.
50:02
Yep.
50:03
100% and you could go down and name
50:04
all of them all of them all of
50:06
them left and right both sides of the
50:08
aisle by the way 100% vast majority of
50:09
them.
50:11
Yeah it's not just a one sided thing.
50:13
The system is corrupt as hell as the
50:15
day is long and until they fix that
50:17
and that's something I feel passionate about really
50:19
really passionate about this point here driving the
50:21
show I've said it for a while but
50:23
I'm going to now say it a little
50:25
bit louder uh Sherry or as we say
50:27
out loud uh I call it Sherry the
50:29
out loud truth the out loud truth and
50:31
it's just from your heart it's just this
50:33
is the out loud truth and you know
50:35
some people can deal with that some people
50:37
can't it's okay man it's okay we can
50:40
we can still be truthful and be respectful
50:42
as ladies and gentlemen.
50:45
I'm a little I'm I'm a gentleman but
50:47
as ladies and gentlemen we can have that
50:49
conversation we've got a difficult conversation so all
50:51
right so you think this hearing was a
50:53
little different this time and so you think
50:54
there could be something and you mentioned he
50:56
did take his life in his own hands
50:58
or Erdman there's no question about it.
51:01
The question I wonder are that aren't there
51:03
any other patriots in there why haven't others
51:05
stood up and and rebel against the system
51:07
is sad to me.
51:09
It's a sad state of America that that
51:11
hasn't happened is what I think.
51:13
Well he sort of laid that out I
51:15
mean that was a question that was asked
51:18
to him in the hearing yeah and he
51:20
said quite frankly the whistleblower protection laws don't
51:23
protect no and they and even Johnson said
51:25
you know Congress probably does the least amount
51:28
to try to protect the whistleblowers that come
51:30
to us and so you know there's lots
51:32
of reasons to not take that into your
51:35
own hands.
51:38
If you got a family you got reputation
51:39
oh come on I mean not everybody wants
51:41
to uh sink themselves in life especially when
51:43
you get to that point I mean come
51:45
on there's a lot of responsibility and and
51:47
you know the the the what you just
51:48
said is important.
51:50
You know many people in that position including
51:53
myself I would not want to um put
51:55
my family in jeopardy is the point.
51:58
I and I in fact it's one of
52:00
the reasons I'm very careful even in my
52:02
life as a public figure now I protect
52:04
my privacy very much because I won't put
52:06
my children and my wife and in jeopardy
52:09
you know so I'm not I'm not you
52:11
know I don't get on and just there
52:13
are things I don't I there are two
52:15
different worlds you know the public persona is
52:17
here and the private sector is none of
52:19
your business that's how I look at it
52:21
how about you very well put yep for
52:23
sure you have to protect yourself at that
52:25
point I've had plenty of you know that
52:27
kind of bad messages come in and things
52:29
you know death threats that kind of thing
52:31
I don't I don't need to hear it.
52:34
I don't need to hear it move on
52:36
move on uh got enough going on here
52:38
all right so we'll see if it only
52:41
happens this time around to capsule that and
52:43
this henta virus it isn't going to go
52:46
anywhere is it sherry no it's not it's
52:48
it's not going to be any big deal
52:51
you know that's one of the things that
52:53
I wrote in the substack that I wrote
52:55
which is dr10penny dot substack dot com is
52:58
you know the hontivirus have we learned anything
53:00
like they every two years they crank up
53:03
something we had COVID and we had monkeypox
53:05
and then we had bird flu that they
53:07
tried to float and now we've got Hontavirus
53:10
which is nothing and and you know really
53:12
truly I mean there's not any reason to
53:15
have any hysteria about this they've been tracking
53:17
this virus since 1993.
53:20
Um there's it it's just I'm gonna say
53:23
the same thing about huntavirus that I said
53:25
about COVID the cure for early early on
53:28
in COVID back you know in March of
53:31
2020 or uh April of 2020 that I
53:33
have the absolute cure for COVID turn off
53:36
your television turn it off go about your
53:39
business pretend it's not happening there's gonna be
53:41
a few people that are going to die
53:44
just like there's 8000 people that die every
53:46
year of the flu and no that doesn't
53:49
even make a blip on anybody's radar screen
53:52
and we know that the death rate from
53:54
COVID ultimately was zero point two percent and
53:57
the people most of the majority of the
54:00
people that died died from medical malpractice they
54:02
were given the wrong drug at the wrong
54:05
dose at the wrong period of time 100%
54:08
wasn't you know yes they may have gotten
54:10
COVID but it's the difference of dying from
54:13
COVID or dying with COVID dying with COVID
54:16
with the REM desivere and the ventiles the
54:18
ventilator having the right drugs but not having
54:21
access to Ivorme there was no early treatment
54:23
they laughed at us on early treatment we
54:26
we were on the front part of that
54:29
right here on this network from day one
54:31
and preacher treatment and we talked about extensively
54:34
uh and uh people were not getting the
54:37
memo and the system was not getting the
54:39
memo and everything went so the only reason
54:42
they didn't get the memo was because they
54:45
didn't turn off their television yeah yeah no
54:47
you're you're right sephere campaign it is media
54:50
induced okay all right uh dr tenpenny dot
54:53
com is the site to reach uh Dr.
54:55
Sherry 10penny the year and the prime membership
54:58
dot dr tenpenny.com I got it right right
55:00
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55:02
on America Outloud dot news yeah and check
55:04
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55:07
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55:11
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55:16
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55:18
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55:20
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55:22
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55:25
to Dr.
55:27
Sherry tenpenny who is uh class among class
55:29
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