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Episode 2, Season 2: Sex & Intimacy Series: Pleasure, Not Shame - STD Truths, Healing, and Sexual Empowerment with The Yoni Nutritionist · The Dr. Sarah Hensley Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Love Dog Podcast. I'm your co host
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Speaker 1: Raina Butcher here with our host, doctor Sarah Hensley.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, what's up? Oh gosh? Not much excited for
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Speaker 2: episode two of our series on sex and Intimacy and
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Speaker 2: we just started season two with our new set and
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Speaker 2: we are ready to go. We have a very special guest.
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Speaker 2: Would you introduce her?
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Speaker 1: Yes, we have the Yoni nutrition Nutritionist aka Adrian. Hey, Adrian,
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Speaker 1: how are you?
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Speaker 3: I am good? Thank you?
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Speaker 1: How are you so good? Thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: being here. We are so pumped to have you on.
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Speaker 1: I've been following you probably for about a year now
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Speaker 1: on social media and you are just such an inspiration
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Speaker 1: and you've given me just so much clarity and hope.
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Speaker 1: And so just tell our listeners a little bit about yourself,
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Speaker 1: tell them what you do and really what you have
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Speaker 1: to offer.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I appreciate that so much. My name is Adrian,
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Speaker 3: and I am the Yoni Nutritionist. I'm a holistic nutritionist
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Speaker 3: that specializes in nutrition and lifestyle practices for women's sexual health,
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Speaker 3: particularly vaginal health, particularly helping women heal the root causes
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Speaker 3: of recurring vaginal infections. And not only am I a
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Speaker 3: holistic nutritionist, but I am a very passionate sexual health
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Speaker 3: advocate and educator, and after living with STIs and dealing
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Speaker 3: with my own vaginal health issues for most of my
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Speaker 3: sexually active life, I have learned so much and I've
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Speaker 3: learned that there's still so much stigma around these things,
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Speaker 3: which trying to help end by educating people and supporting
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Speaker 3: people who are going through these very common things and
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Speaker 3: who feel very alone.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I absolutely and I think that that's what's going
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Speaker 1: to be so valuable for our listeners. And what we
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Speaker 1: talked about, you know when we talked last week is
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people that doctor Hinsley deals
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Speaker 1: with and her practice and amongst couples, that a lot
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Speaker 1: of people come in talk to you about maybe some
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Speaker 1: infidelity that they had.
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Speaker 2: Yep, and which STIs end up being a part of
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Speaker 2: that infidelity, right, And oftentimes that's how they found out
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Speaker 2: that there was an infidelity because they were diagnosed within STI,
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Speaker 2: and it just kind of quadruples the trauma that they experience,
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Speaker 2: right not only being cheated on, but also now their
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Speaker 2: health being somewhat put at risk, and they feel completely
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Speaker 2: traumatized and alone and lost, and they may have gotten
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Speaker 2: a diagnosis of HSV, which is I know something that
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Speaker 2: you talk about a lot, which is you know, herpes,
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Speaker 2: and it is so common and it is something that
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Speaker 2: still has so much stigma around it. And I know
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Speaker 2: the clients that have come to me and kind of
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Speaker 2: had this experience are wholly you know, lost and not
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Speaker 2: knowing what this means for their future, what it means
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Speaker 2: for you know, if they end the relationship. I've had
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Speaker 2: clients say, now, I don't feel like I can end
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Speaker 2: the relationship because nobody will want me after this has happened.
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Speaker 2: And it is it is just, you know, so heartbreaking
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Speaker 2: to see how deeply they are affected a lot because
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Speaker 2: we just don't have good information and because of the
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Speaker 2: stigma that still exists. So will you talk about that
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Speaker 2: a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's my favorite topic because none of us were
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Speaker 3: taught about this stuff, and that's where a lot of
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Speaker 3: the fear comes in, is because we don't know a
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Speaker 3: lot about these things. And when people hear the word herpes,
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Speaker 3: it's like a branded scarlet letter or something like that,
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Speaker 3: when it's just the stigma that's the problem, and this
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Speaker 3: lack of education and the fear around these things because
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Speaker 3: we all fear what we don't know, right, And there's
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Speaker 3: so many layers that go into the shame and the
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Speaker 3: feelings that come with a diagnosis like herpes, like HPV
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Speaker 3: two of the quote unquote lifelong viruses that are sexually transmitted.
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Speaker 3: But little do people know is that they are. They
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Speaker 3: can be very manageable and preventable, and there are tons
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Speaker 3: of things that you can do to manage these viruses,
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Speaker 3: prevent transmission to partners, and learn how to live confidently
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Speaker 3: within yourself and in your relationships and in your sex
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Speaker 3: life when you live with these things. I've lived with
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Speaker 3: both genital herpes and cervical dysplasia one of the types
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Speaker 3: of HPV, for over twenty years now, and I mean
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Speaker 3: I've got lots of experience with dating and relationships, and
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Speaker 3: I've learned so much over my personal experience of twenty
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Speaker 3: years living with these things, but also in my research
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Speaker 3: and education as a nutritionist to learn how to you
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Speaker 3: live confidently with these things. And it is unfortunate when
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Speaker 3: these things happen because of infidelity a lot of times,
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Speaker 3: though they of course they do happen because of infidelity.
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Speaker 3: But what a lot of people don't know is that
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Speaker 3: both of these HPV and herpes viruses can be asymptomatic
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Speaker 3: in people for a really long time.
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Speaker 2: Very long time, And that's something that I didn't know
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Speaker 2: specifically about HSB. I actually did my dissertation on HPV
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Speaker 2: and the shame and the stigma and how it affects
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Speaker 2: romantic relationships, And what I found in my dissertation research,
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Speaker 2: which I actually published like seven years later in twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 2: is that people just didn't know anything about HPV. They
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Speaker 2: didn't know anything about it. Despite having lots of ads
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Speaker 2: like around gardasil and the vaccine and everything, people just
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Speaker 2: didn't know. And it's the most part and it's the
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Speaker 2: most prevalent one. You know, the research shows literally if
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Speaker 2: you're sexually active and you have more than one partner,
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Speaker 2: you're going to get some strain of HPV. But a
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Speaker 2: lot of the times, you know, the body clears it
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Speaker 2: without it ever being sort of picked up on a
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Speaker 2: papsmerror or anything like that. And usually the risks of
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Speaker 2: cancer associated with HPV are are pretty low if you
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Speaker 2: are being screened and taking proper you know, post diagnosis
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Speaker 2: treatment protocols. So talk to us a little bit about
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Speaker 2: you know, how what people should do if they get
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Speaker 2: this diagnosis and they feel really lost. What's the first step.
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Speaker 2: What would you tell people to do?
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Speaker 3: Well, the best thing that people can do is learn
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Speaker 3: about it. And I feel like it's such an Both
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Speaker 3: HERPIES and HPV diagnoses can be so overwhelming, and because
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Speaker 3: of the shame that people feel and they feel like
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Speaker 3: they did they did something wrong, so many people don't
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Speaker 3: even want to say the word herpies, so they will
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Speaker 3: a lot of people will just kind of go into
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Speaker 3: denial and not believe it and not want to do
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Speaker 3: any of the research or learn about it because they
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Speaker 3: just it's just too much, which is unstandable because it's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's not just the physical stuff, it's all
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Speaker 3: of the emotional stuff that's attached to These people sometimes
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Speaker 3: would rather just avoid.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to feel necessarily under the rug.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think, but it all rare.
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Speaker 1: It's ugly. Head Eventually in one way or the other,
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Speaker 1: you know you're going to have to pass it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And knowledge is power, Like there are so many
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Speaker 3: it's really so interesting. I think it's interesting to learn
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Speaker 3: about these things and understand how they work. Take the
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Speaker 3: sexual transmission out of it for a second, because that's
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Speaker 3: where the stigma comes from. And learn about these things
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Speaker 3: how they work as viruses, because that's what they are.
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Speaker 3: And really it depends on the health of your immune
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Speaker 3: system to manage these viruses and prevent them from developing
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Speaker 3: in just long term health issues cancer, or prevent transmission
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Speaker 3: and prevent recurrence of symptoms and outbreaks. Right, there's so
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Speaker 3: many things that when you learn it, when you can
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Speaker 3: see it in that way, in that kind of non
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Speaker 3: sexual lens for a second, you kind of be like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's just it's a virus.
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Speaker 2: It was so interesting. In my dissertation, I had a
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Speaker 2: group of women diagnosed with HPV and I had a
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Speaker 2: group of women that were coming to college health services
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Speaker 2: for diagnosis of mono or epstein Bar virus right, which
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Speaker 2: of course it used to be labeled the kissing disease,
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Speaker 2: but you can get epstein bar you know, drinking after
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Speaker 2: someone or whatnot. And we did find a huge difference
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Speaker 2: between the groups in terms of how they viewed their
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Speaker 2: diagnosis and the stigma associated with it and the shame
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Speaker 2: that they felt and the guilt that they felt, and
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Speaker 2: how they felt like it affected their romantic relationships, and
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Speaker 2: so essentially both HPB and epstein bar or viruses that
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Speaker 2: live in the body. Both, I mean, epstein bar can
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Speaker 2: have some pretty serious consequences if it rears its ugly head.
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Speaker 2: It can give people long term chronic fatigue. It's associated
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Speaker 2: with some kind of nasty health issues if it if
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Speaker 2: it recurs. And yet the people that had epstein bar
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Speaker 2: were not the tiniest bit worried right about that diagnosis,
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Speaker 2: whereas the women who had HBV reported significant shame, guilt, depression,
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Speaker 2: and distress associated with their diagnosis.
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Speaker 3: And isn't it interesting because it's because it's related to
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Speaker 3: sex and sexual trends, and I think women's sexual health
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Speaker 3: has been so stigmatized and shamed for so.
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Speaker 2: Long and not talked about, not talked about.
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Speaker 4: Nobody's talked about it.
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Speaker 2: Right, because I mean, gosh, all you have to do
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Speaker 2: is look at the Internet trolls that are, you know,
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Speaker 2: telling you you're dirty and gross and you shouldn't be
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Speaker 2: talking about this, or you know, you're promiscuous or you
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Speaker 2: must have been, you know, doing a bunch of really
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Speaker 2: bad things to acquire this diagnosis. And we know that
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Speaker 2: that it's just true. You can get an STI the
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Speaker 2: very first time you have sex.
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Speaker 3: You can get an STI when you're married. And yes,
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Speaker 3: infidelity happens, but it's also not only because of infidelity.
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Speaker 3: I was talking to a male client last night who
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Speaker 3: was misdiagnosed many times by his doctors. Finally received an
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Speaker 3: HSV one and HSV two diagnosis and had to tell
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Speaker 3: his wife, and of course she just assumed that he
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Speaker 3: was cheating on her and he, I mean, I can't
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Speaker 3: prove that he wasn't, but he was really convincing me
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Speaker 3: that he hadn't right, and you know that holds all
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Speaker 3: all kinds of other shaman stigma. And yeah, you can
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Speaker 3: sleep with one person one time, do everything right, and
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Speaker 3: wear a condom and still get things like herpes or
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Speaker 3: genital warts, because sometimes condoms don't protect the area where
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Speaker 3: the skin to skin transmission happens, right.
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Speaker 4: Like the pelvic area.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've known someone who that happened to where
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Speaker 1: you know, it was transmitted on the pelvic area, and
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Speaker 1: you know, they did everything right, they used protection, you know,
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Speaker 1: and it's still it didn't matter.
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Speaker 2: And so you know, sex is inherently risky and you
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Speaker 2: have to be willing to I think it's important to
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Speaker 2: understand the risks right so that you can be emotionally
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Speaker 2: prepared for whatever the outcomes may be. And so, how
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Speaker 2: do you recommend having that conversation with a potential dating
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Speaker 2: partner if you've had one of these diagnoses? How do
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Speaker 2: you navigate that?
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Speaker 3: It really comes down to confidence in yourself. And that's
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Speaker 3: so much easier for me to say than it is
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Speaker 3: to do, because trust me, it took me a long
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Speaker 3: time to feel confident in both of my diagnoses. But
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Speaker 3: that's the thing. Learning about it is step one again
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Speaker 3: taking the sexual transmission out of it for a second
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Speaker 3: and learning how these viruses work as a virus and
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Speaker 3: how they how manageable they can be, and start putting
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Speaker 3: those practices into place, because there's tons of things you
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Speaker 3: can do with your diet and your lifestyle and supplements
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Speaker 3: and your mindset around relationships, your relationship with sex, your
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Speaker 3: body and your vagina, your sexual health, and you know,
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Speaker 3: work through a lot of those feelings of shame, which Sarah,
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Speaker 3: as you know, is like rooted in so much more deep.
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Speaker 3: There's just so much that goes into it than just
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Speaker 3: the sex part. But when you can understand those and
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Speaker 3: start doing the work, working through those even if it's
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Speaker 3: just little steps every day, you'll start building your confidence
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Speaker 3: and trusting your body and trusting that these things aren't.
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Speaker 3: You start to see it as not a big deal,
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Speaker 3: because you know it's not. So when you go into these,
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Speaker 3: you know, conversations with potential partners, if you make it
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Speaker 3: seem like it's not a big deal, chances are most
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Speaker 3: of the time they're going to see it is not
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Speaker 3: a big deal.
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Speaker 1: But I think too, like create and honesty within yourself
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Speaker 1: and a trust within yourself, and it's probably one of
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Speaker 1: those those things like you know, the more you do it,
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Speaker 1: the more comfortable you get doing it, you know, and
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Speaker 1: then it becomes easier and it becomes more natural. And
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Speaker 1: I think that you know, honesty and trust, I mean,
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Speaker 1: as Sarah talks about, and with so much is so
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Speaker 1: regulating to the nervous system, and the more we can
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Speaker 1: be honest with ourselves and with others is a way
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Speaker 1: that we show up more authentic. And and that's really
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Speaker 1: what this is about, you know. And so because you know,
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Speaker 1: I know so many of our listeners are probably living with,
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Speaker 1: you know, some of these diagnoses, and this is probably
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Speaker 1: going to be just so unbelievably refreshing for them, right
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Speaker 1: and so, and that's why I wanted you on right,
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Speaker 1: That's why I wanted you here, is just so that
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Speaker 1: you could offer this sense of hope and just this
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Speaker 1: idea that hey, it's not that big of a deal.
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Speaker 1: Just be honest, be honest, show up, authentic, and then
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Speaker 1: the right people will come in and the wrong people,
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Speaker 1: you know, can hit the road.
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Speaker 2: They'll see themselves out and that's a good thing that
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Speaker 2: they did, That's right.
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Speaker 1: And that's why it's so important again for our listeners
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Speaker 1: that they need to hear this because I know that
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Speaker 1: rejection can be such a big component of something like
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Speaker 1: that for someone who's who maybe wants to step into
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Speaker 1: that and be honest, if they're in the dating phase
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Speaker 1: of their life, and then you know, you do get
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Speaker 1: rejected and psychologically that's really difficult. And I mean, Sarah,
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Speaker 1: I know you can speak on that and speak on
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Speaker 1: you know a lot of your clients that maybe come
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Speaker 1: in and that deep sense of rejection and what it
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Speaker 1: does to them.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it you know, rejection can be really painful. It
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Speaker 2: is something that I think all of us in different
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Speaker 2: ways have experienced in our lives in different forms of rejection,
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Speaker 2: but with rejection, the primary emotion that's experienced is shame,
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Speaker 2: and shame we know is so detrimental. Again, my dissertation
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Speaker 2: was all about shame, and I even found in my
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Speaker 2: dissertation that shame decreased CD for help ourselves, which is
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Speaker 2: really important in managing viruses like HPV for example. And
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Speaker 2: so the more internal shame that we have, the more
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Speaker 2: likely we are to have recurrences of some of these
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Speaker 2: viral STDs or outbreaks of these viral STDs. And so
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Speaker 2: there's a link there between our psychological I mean, of
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Speaker 2: course there's always a link. We live in the biopsychosocial
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Speaker 2: model of the world. But if you are living in
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Speaker 2: chronic shame or you're depressed or distressed over your diagnosis,
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Speaker 2: that could potentially make your diagnosis worse. And so it
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Speaker 2: is so important to know how to process any shame
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Speaker 2: associated with rejection and to be able to see that
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Speaker 2: objectively that rejection is usually coming from a lack of understanding,
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Speaker 2: right and a lack of comfort that somebody has with
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Speaker 2: this diagnosis because they don't know about it. They don't
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Speaker 2: know that you can live with it and that you
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Speaker 2: can manage it and that you can prevent transmission and
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Speaker 2: so that it's not a scarlet letter. And like I
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Speaker 2: just try to tell my clients, those people probably have
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Speaker 2: more deep rooted issues with intimacy than you knew about
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Speaker 2: right in this dating phase. And they're probably doing you
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Speaker 2: a favor by walking away because when other things come
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Speaker 2: up in your relationship that is difficult, they're probably going
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Speaker 2: to be inching away from that as well. So let
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Speaker 2: them see themselves out. And the people that are able
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Speaker 2: to lean in and the people that are able to
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Speaker 2: accept you and to be understanding are the people that
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Speaker 2: probably have more capacity for intimacy in the first place.
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Speaker 4: Ye, rejection's a myth, right.
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Speaker 2: It is a myth. I mean spiritually it's a myth.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're never rejected. You have a God that
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Speaker 2: will never leave or forsake you. So you know, I've
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Speaker 2: had plenty of experience, you know, battling rejection throughout my
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Speaker 2: entire life, and it wasn't until I got really close
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Speaker 2: with God that that healed that for me. But for
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Speaker 2: those that you know, don't have that relationship, you have
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Speaker 2: to understand that rejection is a shame based emotion and
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Speaker 2: shame is just so incredibly painful, and we have to
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Speaker 2: be able to learn how to deal with our internalized shame.
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Speaker 2: And that's something we've talked about a lot.
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Speaker 1: And I think that when you can see it from
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Speaker 1: the perspective of you know, rejection isn't always rejection. It's
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Speaker 1: just somebody's lack of capacity to understand right and so
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Speaker 1: or to want the same things you want exactly, And
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Speaker 1: so it's not you know, because I mean, obviously I've
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Speaker 1: I've dealt with rejection. I think all females have in
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Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, and males, yeahs.
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Speaker 2: Which everybody's dealt with some form of rejection somewhere, and
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Speaker 2: nobody loves it. Nobody likes it. But it's what's your
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Speaker 2: story behind it? Right? Is your story that yes, I
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Speaker 2: am shameful and I am you know, I'm inherently bad
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Speaker 2: or defective now that I have this diagnosis, or is
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Speaker 2: it that you know this happens to I know, I
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Speaker 2: believe the statistic on herpes is one in five people,
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Speaker 2: if that's still correct or still updated, And so that's
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Speaker 2: a heck of a lot of people, right, that's twenty
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Speaker 2: percent of people. So we're talking about it. A good
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Speaker 2: handful of the population is dealing with this, and so
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Speaker 2: talk to us a little bit about specific dietary interventions
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Speaker 2: for HSV or HPV or some of those longer lasting,
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Speaker 2: you know, viral diagnoses. Obviously ones that can be cured
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Speaker 2: with antibiotics, we're dealing with a different beast here, but
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Speaker 2: for those those long lasting diagnoses, talk to us a
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Speaker 2: little bit about your recommendations for diet, for supplements, for
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Speaker 2: things for our listeners that might be diagnosed with these issues.
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Speaker 3: Well, thinking about these things as viruses, you know, you
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Speaker 3: can kind of relate to it as in managing the
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Speaker 3: common cold, which is also a virus, because it can
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Speaker 3: be that simple. It's really keeping your immune system strong,
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Speaker 3: so that means eating, trying to reduce any kind of
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Speaker 3: chronic inflammation, because chronic inflammation can suppress your immune system,
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Speaker 3: which can bring up these viruses. Also managing your stress,
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Speaker 3: especially around with herpes, because because herpes is a virus
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Speaker 3: that lies dormant in the nerves, so the stress is
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Speaker 3: going to trigger it. But there are also other triggers
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Speaker 3: that sometimes that are food based for people. So, for example,
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Speaker 3: with herpes, foods that are high in the amino acid
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Speaker 3: called arginine. Just think of arginine as bad, okay, And
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Speaker 3: all foods have this amino acid arginine in them, but
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Speaker 3: some foods have higher amounts of arginine in them. For example, chocolate, nuts, seeds,
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Speaker 3: corn oats, everybody's favorite things, all of my meats, like
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Speaker 3: all foods have higher well, some some have higher amounts
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Speaker 3: of arginine in them, which can replicate the DNA of
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Speaker 3: the herpes virus and trigger it in some people. Like
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Speaker 3: I've talked to people who will get triggered by eating
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Speaker 3: peanut butter or puff pastry or something random, or even
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Speaker 3: if they have an alcoholic beverage a glass of wine
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Speaker 3: or two, they'll have an outbreak. And it's not like
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Speaker 3: that for everybody, but those are just generally the foods
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Speaker 3: that you want to pay attention to when you do
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Speaker 3: live with herpies. There aren't really specifically any foods that
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Speaker 3: are triggers of the HPV virus because it's a little
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Speaker 3: bit different the way it works. But in terms of
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Speaker 3: managing it with herpes, you can take a supplement called lysine,
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Speaker 3: which is kind of like the opposite of rginine. Think
20:30
Speaker 3: of rginine being bad and lysine is being good. It
20:33
Speaker 3: blocks that replication of the DNA in the replication of
20:37
Speaker 3: the virus, so taking a supplement with lysine. There's a
20:41
Speaker 3: ton of foods that also include higher amounts of lysine
20:45
Speaker 3: as well. But just thinking about immune boosting foods, whole
20:49
Speaker 3: foods as much as you can, you know, fresh fruits,
20:52
Speaker 3: fresh vegetables, whole foods, good quality sources of protein, whole grains,
20:57
Speaker 3: and try to stick with that diet. I would say
20:59
Speaker 3: seventy to eighty percent of the time. Sixty sometimes you
21:03
Speaker 3: don't have to be you don't have to go crazy,
21:06
Speaker 3: but just making sure that you are taking care of
21:08
Speaker 3: your immune system and introducing foods that are high in
21:12
Speaker 3: vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin E, and S. Those are
21:15
Speaker 3: the immune boosting vitamins that are really great for managing
21:21
Speaker 3: any virus and supplementing with them as well, making sure
21:25
Speaker 3: you're taking good quality vitamin C, zinc, vitamin D the
21:29
Speaker 3: immune boosting supplements in addition to L lysine. Green tea
21:35
Speaker 3: is really good for HPV whether you want to drink
21:38
Speaker 3: like green tea or macha. That's also really good, high
21:42
Speaker 3: in antioxidants and really just you know, moderating the inflammatory foods.
21:48
Speaker 3: So if you're dealing with chronic inflammation, that's going to
21:51
Speaker 3: weaken your immune system and leave you more susceptible to
21:54
Speaker 3: these viruses coming up or being persistent. So gluten, dairy, sugar,
21:59
Speaker 3: all of the fave.
22:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the good all the good stuff.
22:05
Speaker 3: This doesn't be cutting them out completely, like right right,
22:08
Speaker 3: that's some ice cream in my freezer right now.
22:11
Speaker 2: And yeah, but I think this is just good advice
22:14
Speaker 2: in general for for your health anyway, right, I mean
22:17
Speaker 2: it's those are cancer preventing foods, the whole foods, the
22:21
Speaker 2: vegetables of fruits, you know, those are foods that can
22:25
Speaker 2: prevent heart disease. There are foods that can you know,
22:27
Speaker 2: lowering your sugar can prevent diabetes. So it is not
22:31
Speaker 2: just about managing vaginal vaginal health, you know that is
22:35
Speaker 2: going to health be an overall anti inflammatory approach.
22:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's really just managing your stress, you know,
22:42
Speaker 3: keeping a healthy lifestyle. You can sure alcohol and moderation. Smoking.
22:48
Speaker 3: I would say smoking cigarettes is bad for your immune system.
22:52
Speaker 2: I love cigarettes, right, is like confession, I love cigarettes.
23:02
Speaker 1: I don't smoke anymore, but you know I will always.
23:07
Speaker 2: Just like the Chandler Bang.
23:08
Speaker 1: I will always yes, I will always be a Chandler Bang,
23:11
Speaker 1: and you know, always want to smoke and see other
23:15
Speaker 1: people smoke and be like, God, that looks so good,
23:19
Speaker 1: Like you know, watching Yellowstone, watching Beth doesn't smoke a cigarette,
23:22
Speaker 1: or watching Carrie on Sex and the City smoke a cigarette.
23:25
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I'm just like, oh man, they make that
23:28
Speaker 4: look so good.
23:30
Speaker 1: And I think it, you know, is the act itself
23:33
Speaker 1: that I love, you know, and that I miss the
23:35
Speaker 1: most because you know, even now when I'll smoke a cigarette,
23:38
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gross, Like it's nasty, right, like
23:42
Speaker 1: the smell of the taste and all the things, But
23:44
Speaker 1: the act itself, I will always have just this love
23:48
Speaker 1: for so Confession of the Hour, Raina loves cigarettes.
23:52
Speaker 2: Okay, Judger, if you want to know our habits, you know,
23:58
Speaker 2: but I think you know, when I comes to managing
24:01
Speaker 2: these things, putting your health first is so very important
24:04
Speaker 2: because if you don't feel good physically, it takes an
24:07
Speaker 2: enormous toll on your mental health. And I'm glad that
24:10
Speaker 2: you brought up stress. I think stress is such a
24:12
Speaker 2: huge moderating factor. You know. I have a lot of
24:17
Speaker 2: people don't know this, but I have a dual concentration
24:19
Speaker 2: in health psychology, so social psychology health psychology. I was
24:23
Speaker 2: very interested in the impact of disease on relationships and
24:28
Speaker 2: our relational health and how you know, disease can alter
24:33
Speaker 2: our romantic relationships and put a burden er a strain
24:37
Speaker 2: on that, and then how social support can help our
24:41
Speaker 2: immune system and help us manage chronic disease. You know,
24:44
Speaker 2: that was one of my major interests when I came
24:46
Speaker 2: into graduate school and inside of graduate school, and there's
24:49
Speaker 2: a really strong relationship between having good social support, specifically
24:55
Speaker 2: a healthy marriage, and the ability for your body to
24:58
Speaker 2: manage chronic illnesses, including chronic viruses. So I'm sure that
25:04
Speaker 2: there's literature out there that you know, if you have
25:08
Speaker 2: a loving and supportive partner, you're probably less likely to
25:11
Speaker 2: have outbreaks than if you do not, or if you're
25:13
Speaker 2: in a marriage where there's a lot of stress.
25:16
Speaker 3: So interesting the psychosomatic connection to all of the same.
25:20
Speaker 3: And when we were talking about rejection earlier, you know,
25:24
Speaker 3: it is really a matter of creating that safety within
25:27
Speaker 3: yourself and feeling safe in your body no matter what
25:31
Speaker 3: life throws at you, no matter what type of you know,
25:34
Speaker 3: situation you're in, but especially when you're when you feel
25:38
Speaker 3: safe in a relationship and with your friendships and your family,
25:41
Speaker 3: because that does help to kind of regulate your nervous system,
25:45
Speaker 3: which helps you, you know, manage and prevent these viruses.
25:49
Speaker 3: If you're in a constant state of stress and you
25:52
Speaker 3: don't feel safe inside of yourself or externally in your
25:57
Speaker 3: relationships and your work environment, whatever, that's going to trigger
26:01
Speaker 3: your nervous system to be like up.
26:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's like one hundred percent of my clientele. Yeah,
26:06
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of my clientele are chronically dysregulated. And
26:09
Speaker 2: of course I used to be as well, because when
26:12
Speaker 2: you have relational trauma, especially relational trauma that starts in childhood,
26:17
Speaker 2: you're a nervous system becomes wired towards being in a
26:21
Speaker 2: fight or flight state, or even you know, in a
26:24
Speaker 2: functional free state, which is that blended state between fight
26:28
Speaker 2: and flight and then moving up into freeze and then
26:30
Speaker 2: back down where you're just being fueled by adrenaline when
26:33
Speaker 2: you're productive, and then when you're off, you're just like
26:35
Speaker 2: dead in the bed right, you're bed routing. And so
26:39
Speaker 2: many of my clients, because they've dealt with significant attachment
26:43
Speaker 2: issues from childhood. They've lived there their entire lives. They
26:46
Speaker 2: don't know what it feels like to be safe, and
26:47
Speaker 2: I didn't until I was thirty nine years old, and
26:50
Speaker 2: I struggled with so many physical health symptoms of just
26:55
Speaker 2: about every variety. And so I think four individuals dealing
26:59
Speaker 2: with these issues really becoming attachment secure, which at the
27:04
Speaker 2: heart of that is nervous system regulation and stabilization and
27:08
Speaker 2: being able to create safety in the relationship to self,
27:11
Speaker 2: which then allows you to create safety in romantic relationships.
27:15
Speaker 2: It's just probably a vital component or something that they
27:18
Speaker 2: might want to seek out if they're dealing with these things,
27:21
Speaker 2: because stress is such a moderating factor in the proliferation
27:24
Speaker 2: of viruses in the body.
27:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a lot of work. I mean, I
27:30
Speaker 3: went real deep for a few years in my own
27:34
Speaker 3: healing of my own trauma and stuff, because some of
27:37
Speaker 3: this stuff is so subconscious and it's so deep that
27:40
Speaker 3: you don't even know why you feel like this or
27:43
Speaker 3: why these are happening, and you just think why me
27:46
Speaker 3: and you feel Sometimes we'll fall into the victim mode
27:49
Speaker 3: and not even realize that these things are happening for
27:53
Speaker 3: a reason. And sometimes when these things come up, especially
27:57
Speaker 3: if you're getting chronic herpies outbreaks or persistent HPV infections,
28:02
Speaker 3: it's instead of I used to go into this like
28:05
Speaker 3: spiral of shame and anxiety and what's wrong with me?
28:08
Speaker 3: And what am I doing wrong? And I instead of
28:11
Speaker 3: seeing it like that, I started to try to see
28:13
Speaker 3: it as what is this trying to show me? And
28:15
Speaker 3: what is this trying to teach me? And really trying
28:19
Speaker 3: to understand what my body was literally screaming right at me.
28:24
Speaker 3: And that's when I can kind of work backwards to
28:26
Speaker 3: sort kind of understand patterns and connect dots and do
28:31
Speaker 3: a lot of the deep emotional trauma work that was
28:36
Speaker 3: really disregulating my nervous system causing my chronic at one point,
28:40
Speaker 3: chronic symptoms.
28:41
Speaker 2: Right, And it sucks like it was hard.
28:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I know that.
28:47
Speaker 1: I know that you also, I mean, we've talked a
28:49
Speaker 1: lot about sti's STDs, but you also work with clients,
28:53
Speaker 1: you know, who just want a healthier vagina, right, and
28:57
Speaker 1: a healthier sex life. And so I'm curious how do
29:02
Speaker 1: you help those people?
29:03
Speaker 4: Because I know a lot of our listeners are going
29:05
Speaker 4: to be intrigued by just.
29:06
Speaker 1: Overall vaginal health, right, and a better sex life because overall,
29:10
Speaker 1: a better vagina equals better sex.
29:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, and who it benefits everybody?
29:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's happier, that's right.
29:20
Speaker 3: I also help women who struggle with other chronic infections
29:23
Speaker 3: like yeast and bb and UTIs because that's a whole
29:26
Speaker 3: nother bacterial and fungal infections are also just ah other ballgame.
29:31
Speaker 3: But it's really about learning about this stuff and understanding
29:36
Speaker 3: how your diet can be crucial to your vaginal health
29:40
Speaker 3: and how it is connected because it's essentially connected to
29:43
Speaker 3: your gut health, and really just getting more in touch
29:46
Speaker 3: with your body and learning what to eat that works
29:49
Speaker 3: for you, not just what to eat, but how to eat.
29:53
Speaker 3: And also just like sexual empowerment. You know, we've been
29:57
Speaker 3: taught to be quiet about these things for so long,
29:59
Speaker 3: but I think it's so important to talk about masturbation
30:03
Speaker 3: and like pleasure and not just sexual pleasure, but like
30:07
Speaker 3: our loving ourselves, right, because it took me a really
30:11
Speaker 3: long time to learn how to love myself and unlearn
30:15
Speaker 3: all the bs that I grew up learning from my
30:17
Speaker 3: parents who did it right.
30:18
Speaker 1: Well.
30:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and.
30:21
Speaker 3: Feel empowered in my body and confident in my body
30:24
Speaker 3: and in my sexuality too, and in my relationships with
30:28
Speaker 3: my friends and people, you know, my family as well.
30:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's so much.
30:34
Speaker 1: It is so important to talk openly about sexuality. And
30:39
Speaker 1: this is something that I tried really hard to do
30:42
Speaker 1: with my son because I felt like, just so I
30:47
Speaker 1: was a preacher's daughter and we were a little sheltered,
30:49
Speaker 1: and so I feel like growing up, like sex in general,
30:54
Speaker 1: always had this stigma that it was bad and that
30:57
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do it and if you do it, then
31:01
Speaker 1: you know you're damn dhill and when in reality, sex
31:06
Speaker 1: is like the most normal thing there is, right, Like
31:10
Speaker 1: everybody does it, like if if well, if any of
31:12
Speaker 1: us have anything, the one thing in common we have
31:16
Speaker 1: is that we all have sex, right, and we all
31:18
Speaker 1: you know, And so it's like, why not normalize it
31:22
Speaker 1: and talk about it more openly. So because what it
31:25
Speaker 1: ended up happening for me, and what I tried not
31:28
Speaker 1: to do with my son is to say, oh, no,
31:31
Speaker 1: you can't have sex, right, No, I said, you're gonna
31:33
Speaker 1: have sex. I know you're gonna have sex probably, you know,
31:38
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, do I wish you'd have sex, I mean,
31:40
Speaker 1: get married and then have sex. Sure, every parent wishes that,
31:43
Speaker 1: but that's not gonna happen. So you're gonna have sex.
31:46
Speaker 1: And I'm here if you need to talk about it.
31:49
Speaker 1: Because that I had the opposite effect, because sex felt
31:53
Speaker 1: so taboo. It made me want to do it more,
31:57
Speaker 1: you know, it made me want to I tried.
32:00
Speaker 4: It made it more interesting, It made it more like.
32:03
Speaker 2: Uh, reactance. There's actually a psychological term for that. It's
32:06
Speaker 2: called reactance. Where you feel coarse or controlled or pressured
32:10
Speaker 2: to not do something. Therefore you want to do it
32:12
Speaker 2: more right.
32:13
Speaker 1: And it leads to things like sexual permiscuity right, And
32:17
Speaker 1: I mean I can be a testament to it. I had,
32:19
Speaker 1: you know, I had some sexual permiscuity in my life,
32:21
Speaker 1: and I feel like because I mean, I remember the
32:25
Speaker 1: day that my mom found out that I was having sex.
32:27
Speaker 1: It was like the frickin' roof blew off the house,
32:31
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, she was an emotional wreck and
32:33
Speaker 1: thought it was like the end of the world. When
32:36
Speaker 1: the best response she could have given me would have
32:38
Speaker 1: been like, Okay, let's let me educate you, let's talk,
32:43
Speaker 1: Let's let me give you some education on maybe the
32:46
Speaker 1: risk that comes along with sex and you.
32:49
Speaker 4: Know, maybe what you shouldn't should and shouldn't do, and.
32:52
Speaker 2: That would have gone over so much better. Yeah. Absolutely,
32:55
Speaker 2: And you know I have a teenage daughter now, she's fourteen,
32:59
Speaker 2: and of course I do believe that that is too
33:02
Speaker 2: young to be having sex.
33:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.
33:03
Speaker 2: Luckily I think she agrees with me. But you know,
33:06
Speaker 2: there's going to come a point in her life where
33:08
Speaker 2: she's going to be potentially pressured and or wanting to
33:12
Speaker 2: make this decision for herself. And you know, I do
33:15
Speaker 2: emphasize that. I you know, my personal faith belief is
33:18
Speaker 2: that God designed sex to be in the covenant of
33:22
Speaker 2: marriage because of the protection that it offers, right, because
33:25
Speaker 2: there are risks, right, and diseases and pregnancy and all
33:28
Speaker 2: of those things are risks, and if those things happen
33:30
Speaker 2: in the covenant of marriage, you're so much more psychologically protected, right,
33:35
Speaker 2: if it's a good marriage. But that's not necessarily how
33:40
Speaker 2: everybody's journey is going to play out, right, And I
33:43
Speaker 2: don't have ultimately that control to be like, hey, yeah,
33:46
Speaker 2: you're gonna I mean, what can I do handcuff myself
33:48
Speaker 2: to her? Right, It's not gonna it's it's impossible to
33:51
Speaker 2: know what choice she'll make, and so if she's going
33:53
Speaker 2: to make a choice, I just want it to be
33:55
Speaker 2: an educated choice, and I want it to be a
33:57
Speaker 2: choice that will protect herself and that will help her
34:00
Speaker 2: to be able to navigate the complexity as well.
34:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think as women, we just again like,
34:05
Speaker 1: the more we talk about it, the more you release
34:08
Speaker 1: the stigmas around it, the more natural it becomes, and
34:13
Speaker 1: then there isn't the need for the permiscuity that comes
34:18
Speaker 1: along with it. And then I think that's how you
34:21
Speaker 1: prevent things.
34:22
Speaker 4: Like sti's STDs.
34:24
Speaker 1: It's through the knowledge, it's through talking about it, it's
34:27
Speaker 1: through being honest and open. And I mean, honestly, that's
34:31
Speaker 1: why when I found you, I was like, this woman
34:35
Speaker 1: is so refreshing. I mean, it was just so refreshing
34:38
Speaker 1: because it was really the first time that I saw
34:40
Speaker 1: someone that was just like, no, I'm gonna talk about
34:43
Speaker 1: this and I don't care what you say and I
34:45
Speaker 1: don't care what.
34:46
Speaker 2: You think, and that is really brave. Yeah, even more
34:48
Speaker 2: of that, and it's.
34:49
Speaker 1: So beautiful and again, just really refreshing.
34:53
Speaker 2: So thank you, yes, thank you for everything that you
34:56
Speaker 2: do and for the education that you bring and and
35:00
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, just things like chronic BV. Now they
35:03
Speaker 2: have research coming out showing it sexually transmitted. And so
35:06
Speaker 2: many women have been gas lit by being told like
35:11
Speaker 2: you're just wearing your panties are too tight, or it's
35:14
Speaker 2: this or it's that long. Yeah, and no, actually you're
35:17
Speaker 2: getting it from your partner. And there are things like
35:20
Speaker 2: you're aplasma for example, that are associated with or I
35:25
Speaker 2: had pre prompt so my my daughter, my first daughter
35:29
Speaker 2: was born five weeks early at spontaneous rupture of the membranes,
35:33
Speaker 2: and then found out later with my second child that
35:37
Speaker 2: I had europlasma, which is a bacteria and it can
35:41
Speaker 2: cause rupture of the membranes. And I remember thinking, oh,
35:45
Speaker 2: my gosh, did my husband cheat on me while he
35:47
Speaker 2: was cheating on me? For sure, he's cheating on me
35:49
Speaker 2: the whole time, and I didn't know it. But my
35:50
Speaker 2: provider was like, well, not necessarily. You know, it's not
35:53
Speaker 2: something that likes routinely tested for. He could have had
35:55
Speaker 2: this forever and then you know, we just it's not
35:58
Speaker 2: something we routinely test for. And I do think they
36:01
Speaker 2: should routinely test women for it if it's related to
36:04
Speaker 2: early birth or rupture of the membranes. And there are
36:07
Speaker 2: so many things that we need to be talking about
36:09
Speaker 2: and considering that we're not. And I know that women
36:13
Speaker 2: who struggle with chronic yeast, chronic BV, chronic UTIs, it's
36:18
Speaker 2: really really hard on them, and we need more information
36:21
Speaker 2: to help women versus just well, here's your next round
36:24
Speaker 2: of antibiotics. And then they're on this like vicious cycle
36:27
Speaker 2: of like, why I took antibiotics for my BV. You know,
36:29
Speaker 2: I have a yeast infection, I got some miss and
36:32
Speaker 2: then you know, everything gets messed up.
36:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
36:35
Speaker 3: I've had women come to me crying because they have
36:39
Speaker 3: been on rounds of BV because their doctors have misdiagnosed
36:43
Speaker 3: them with BV. And I said, go back to your
36:46
Speaker 3: doctor and ask them to test you for Uia plasma
36:48
Speaker 3: or michael plasma, which is another very suborn strain of
36:52
Speaker 3: bacteria that acts that feels like BV easter UTI, but
36:57
Speaker 3: is a completely completely different bacteria. Sure enough positive, So
37:02
Speaker 3: her doctor has been testing her and treating her for
37:04
Speaker 3: the wrong bacteria for so long with the wrong antibiotics.
37:09
Speaker 2: Reckon, forget Yeah, I.
37:11
Speaker 3: Forgot destroying her emotional and mental health because of it,
37:15
Speaker 3: and it's just so frustrating that, you know, we really
37:19
Speaker 3: have to be our own health advocates. Like, obviously we
37:22
Speaker 3: need our medical system, we need our doctors, we need treatment,
37:25
Speaker 3: we need medication, but sometimes the doctors don't get it
37:28
Speaker 3: right right, right. And if your systems are chronic and
37:34
Speaker 3: you know you are treating them and you're getting treated
37:37
Speaker 3: and taking the medication and they come back, you know,
37:40
Speaker 3: it's so important for you to understand that you got
37:43
Speaker 3: to be your own health advocate and either research or
37:47
Speaker 3: find me.
37:48
Speaker 2: I am such a fanopolistic medicine, I honestly, and this
37:52
Speaker 2: is so terrible. Other than the surgeries that I've had,
37:55
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever been helped by one single
37:58
Speaker 2: mainstream doctor in my.
38:01
Speaker 3: Life.
38:02
Speaker 4: But your leg is broken, Like you need a medical.
38:05
Speaker 2: Right, I mean there are certain things, yeah that I mean,
38:09
Speaker 2: you know, modern medicine has has really helped my mom
38:12
Speaker 2: who's had pancreatic cancer. But there but I'm also like,
38:15
Speaker 2: at the same time, we probably have natural ways to
38:19
Speaker 2: treat so many things that we either just don't know
38:22
Speaker 2: about or people aren't going to the right providers to
38:25
Speaker 2: be able to get access.
38:29
Speaker 1: Our food system is flawed, you know, we all know that,
38:32
Speaker 1: and it's it's leading to more a lot more than
38:34
Speaker 1: what we even realize. But I think the good news is,
38:37
Speaker 1: you know, I think the human race is like we're.
38:41
Speaker 4: Becoming more conscious of it more and more every single day,
38:44
Speaker 4: and with every every generation.
38:46
Speaker 1: You know, I think that maybe not definitely not ours
38:50
Speaker 1: or you know, JP's my son and maybe not even
38:52
Speaker 1: his children, but maybe the generation after that, like we
38:55
Speaker 1: can get it right in terms of like going back
38:57
Speaker 1: to those old holistic ways of you know, healthy food
39:02
Speaker 1: that's not full of preservatives and actually addicting us to
39:07
Speaker 1: things like sugar.
39:08
Speaker 4: You know, that's just keeping.
39:10
Speaker 2: Us in this actually addicted to sharpness. I am fully
39:13
Speaker 2: addicted to sugar, and I have given it up before
39:17
Speaker 2: in my life and felt a million times better mutter
39:21
Speaker 2: and then I mean it doesn't take much for me though.
39:23
Speaker 1: Man.
39:23
Speaker 2: It takes like one crumble cookie or like some ice
39:25
Speaker 2: cream and then I'm like break back there, you know,
39:28
Speaker 2: And that is actually a goal that I have this summer,
39:30
Speaker 2: is like nope, I'm cutting this crap out and my
39:34
Speaker 2: kids are going to eat less of it, and we
39:37
Speaker 2: are not gonna have all the fatty cakes in the camper.
39:42
Speaker 3: You know.
39:42
Speaker 1: And I've had seasons of life, you know where you know,
39:45
Speaker 1: I've like no, no sugar at all, and the other times,
39:48
Speaker 1: you know, I've gone full, you know, fat girl on sugar,
39:52
Speaker 1: and then other times, you know, it's just a moderation
39:54
Speaker 1: thing for me now where I'm just like okay, every once.
39:56
Speaker 2: In a while, I everything I eat, I feel like
39:58
Speaker 2: I need something sweet.
40:00
Speaker 4: Now had to put me in a stray jacket.
40:04
Speaker 2: Bad, no, so bad.
40:06
Speaker 3: The reason why I started the Yoni Nutritionists because I
40:09
Speaker 3: had something called candida overgrowth, which was basically a systemic
40:13
Speaker 3: yeast overgrowth that took over my whole body. Like I
40:16
Speaker 3: had crazy chronic symptoms that I didn't even realize that
40:20
Speaker 3: were connected to my gut health. And this like overgrowth
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Speaker 3: of bad bacteria and fungus, and I was getting like
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Speaker 3: recurring monthly yeast infections for a year. I had cystic
40:31
Speaker 3: acne on my face like bad, Like it was very bad.
40:35
Speaker 3: I was embarrassed to go out in public. I was
40:37
Speaker 3: chronically fatigued. I was sick all the time. It was miserable,
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Speaker 3: and my doctor at one point just told me he
40:44
Speaker 3: couldn't help me. He didn't know what to do because
40:46
Speaker 3: he would just send me home with prescriptions and I'd
40:48
Speaker 3: be back two weeks later something's wrong and he's like,
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. And this was before
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Speaker 3: I even became a nutritionist. So I learned about this
40:58
Speaker 3: candida overgrowth and I had to change do this pretty
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Speaker 3: strict elimination diet and clean it up and do it
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Speaker 3: for about four weeks, and my symptoms cleared up in
41:07
Speaker 3: four weeks once I changed my diet.
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Speaker 4: Food.
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Speaker 2: Yes, life, it is life. And I think food and
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Speaker 2: stress are the two biggest things that we need to
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Speaker 2: get under control for our health because I know that,
41:20
Speaker 2: Like when I had vestibular migraine, I was on a
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Speaker 2: completely whole I mean they put me on this most
41:25
Speaker 2: restrictive diet humanly possible. I mean I got so skinny
41:28
Speaker 2: because I could only eat like a handful of things
41:30
Speaker 2: and it was all whole foods, and it was great,
41:32
Speaker 2: probably for my health, but you know, it was my stress.
41:36
Speaker 2: It was my nervous system that was so wrecked that
41:40
Speaker 2: that was really the cause of these migraines. It wasn't
41:43
Speaker 2: like a glass of red win er. It wasn't you
41:45
Speaker 2: know this this, or that it was my stress, and
41:49
Speaker 2: then once I was able to really truly heal my
41:53
Speaker 2: nervous system, that my symptoms went away. And so I
41:57
Speaker 2: think that there is such a huge, huge stress component
42:01
Speaker 2: to all chronic illness that is not taken into consideration,
42:05
Speaker 2: or it's taken into too much consideration sometimes, right Like
42:09
Speaker 2: people go to the doctor and like, oh, you're just
42:11
Speaker 2: stressed out. Well, okay, that might be part of it,
42:14
Speaker 2: but usually these things are very synergistic, right Like, there's
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Speaker 2: multiple complex factors, and we have to be able to
42:19
Speaker 2: look holistically at the issue of like, Okay, let's look
42:22
Speaker 2: at your diet, let's look at your stress levels, you know,
42:25
Speaker 2: let's look at whatever supplement you're taking. Let's look at
42:28
Speaker 2: you know, whether you exercise, or how much sleep you're getting.
42:31
Speaker 2: All of those things are really important and we have
42:34
Speaker 2: to we have to tackle it from the whole picture.
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, and sometimes doctors, unfortunately are missing
42:42
Speaker 3: that piece of the puzzle.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like they are more often than not,
42:46
Speaker 2: not to interrupt you, sorry, but yeah, more often than not,
42:48
Speaker 2: or I don't.
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Speaker 3: Want to say, I was going to, yeah, missing that
42:53
Speaker 3: piece and It's hard because you know, everybody trusts their
42:56
Speaker 3: doctors and relies on their doctors and just wants a
42:59
Speaker 3: quick fix and a quick pill. But sometimes it takes
43:02
Speaker 3: so much more to address the root causes of any
43:06
Speaker 3: chronic health issue, and people would rather avoid that because
43:11
Speaker 3: of other They don't feel like they deserve to feel better.
43:14
Speaker 3: They don't want to feel better. They want to stay
43:17
Speaker 3: stuck in those old habits. They don't want to change,
43:20
Speaker 3: they don't want to do the work and grow and
43:23
Speaker 3: give up all their comfort foods. And I'm like, well,
43:26
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to women telling me their sex
43:28
Speaker 3: life is, you know, completely struggling, their relationships are struggling,
43:33
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what would you rather do? Eat the
43:34
Speaker 3: cake or have sex?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, you know,
43:39
Speaker 2: we don't always get to eat our cake or have
43:42
Speaker 2: our cake and eat it too or as they say, yeah.
43:44
Speaker 2: And for me, I know, particularly for managing chronic health symptoms,
43:49
Speaker 2: and this is just in general, like my gut issues,
43:52
Speaker 2: the things that I've had, especially that we're associated with trauma.
43:54
Speaker 2: Sleep was huge, it was huge, and when you have
43:58
Speaker 2: a nervous system that is to stry related sleep becomes
44:01
Speaker 2: nearly impossible. And I'm probably sleep better now than I
44:05
Speaker 2: have in a really, really long time. And I've noticed
44:08
Speaker 2: that that is such a huge, huge component for me
44:12
Speaker 2: of feeling good and managing the trauma symptoms that are
44:15
Speaker 2: still lingering for me. If I get good sleep, I
44:19
Speaker 2: really don't have anything going on. If I have a
44:21
Speaker 2: bad night of sleep, and usually that bad night of
44:24
Speaker 2: sleep is my fault, then I'm miserable. I'm miserable. Everything
44:30
Speaker 2: flares up.
44:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and then I have always felt too if
44:33
Speaker 1: the more tired you are, the more apt I am
44:35
Speaker 1: to grab things that are not good for me.
44:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, interns of food.
44:40
Speaker 1: So it exactly really is like the foundation.
44:42
Speaker 2: It is the foundation, and it's of the synergy. Yeah,
44:45
Speaker 2: because you have to have self regulatory ability to be
44:49
Speaker 2: able to make good choices. And when you think about
44:52
Speaker 2: self regulation being like this gas tank, so work stress
44:56
Speaker 2: takes from it, not sleeping takes from it, Relational stress
45:00
Speaker 2: takes from it, you know, the stress of having some
45:02
Speaker 2: kind of diagnosis that maybe chronic takes from it. And
45:06
Speaker 2: so then it makes it even harder to make these
45:09
Speaker 2: choices right. And so we have to have support in
45:12
Speaker 2: multiple areas in place for us to have the self
45:16
Speaker 2: regulatory power to make the good choices. Right, So start
45:19
Speaker 2: with one thing. Start with one thing, right, don't try
45:22
Speaker 2: to tackle it. This is what I would tell people,
45:24
Speaker 2: and what I learned on my journey is like, don't
45:26
Speaker 2: tackle everything at once. Start with one thing, get really
45:30
Speaker 2: good at it, and then add something else in. Like
45:32
Speaker 2: if it's your diet, okay, great, if it's sleep okay,
45:34
Speaker 2: whatever it is, start with one thing and then just
45:37
Speaker 2: slowly try to add things in because you can kind
45:40
Speaker 2: of get that sort of paralysis of like overload of
45:44
Speaker 2: like I have to change everything in my life and
45:46
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that, so then I
45:47
Speaker 2: can't change anything.
45:48
Speaker 1: I'm frozen, right, Yeah, And it doesn't have to be
45:51
Speaker 1: that way. And I think, speaking of synergy, just the
45:53
Speaker 1: two of you all, you know, each of you have
45:56
Speaker 1: something so unique and special to offer in terms of
45:59
Speaker 1: all the things that really matter to get your physical
46:03
Speaker 1: and mental health under control.
46:05
Speaker 4: You know that.
46:06
Speaker 1: I think for our listeners, this could not be a
46:09
Speaker 1: more beautiful little situation, right, Like, I just think it's
46:13
Speaker 1: it's so special because I mean, obviously, Doc, you're gonna
46:17
Speaker 1: help people with nervous system regulation and relational trauma and
46:21
Speaker 1: then you know, you owning nutritionist Adrian, You're gonna help people,
46:26
Speaker 1: you know, with their their nutritional health and their vaginal
46:29
Speaker 1: health and their sex life. And you know that is
46:33
Speaker 1: a beautiful marriage right there. Y, I love it, and
46:37
Speaker 1: we're so thankful for you to come on and to talk.
46:39
Speaker 4: To us about things.
46:40
Speaker 1: I'm just so honored to like get to meet you
46:43
Speaker 1: in person, you know, cause it's funny, like and I
46:45
Speaker 1: know some of your your followers do this, but like
46:48
Speaker 1: when you see influencers on social media, like it's like
46:51
Speaker 1: they're famous, you know, and then like and then you
46:54
Speaker 1: see them in real life and you get to talk
46:55
Speaker 1: to them and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm like
46:57
Speaker 1: such a fan, and like you guys are like famous,
47:01
Speaker 1: Oh y'all are y'all are famous? And I'm just I'm
47:04
Speaker 1: glad to know you both. And I'm I mean, I
47:07
Speaker 1: think that I can speak as maybe an outsider here
47:11
Speaker 1: and for our listeners, what you all are offering the
47:14
Speaker 1: world is so valuable and it's it's.
47:18
Speaker 4: Changing the world and it's saving.
47:20
Speaker 1: Lives and it's it's just it's so powerful. It is
47:24
Speaker 1: so powerful, and I'm just so thankful to know both
47:27
Speaker 1: of you.
47:27
Speaker 4: Thank you, Yes and.
47:30
Speaker 1: Adrian, thank you so much for coming on here. And
47:33
Speaker 1: just tell our listeners where they can find you.
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Speaker 3: Find me on Instagram at yony Nutritionists. That's my main
47:40
Speaker 3: hub of communication and all of the things that I
47:43
Speaker 3: share and do. O. I'm also on TikTok at Yony Nutritionists.
47:48
Speaker 3: You can find my website yoninutritionists dot com and those
47:53
Speaker 3: are my main pages.
47:55
Speaker 1: Perfect and then your services, tell our listeners just a
47:57
Speaker 1: little bit about your services.
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Speaker 3: So I offer four different online self guided programs and
48:04
Speaker 3: guides for the four different vaginal infections that I specialize in.
48:07
Speaker 3: So I have one for yeast infections, I have one
48:10
Speaker 3: for BV infections, and I have a Herpes guide and
48:13
Speaker 3: an HPV healing Guide. I offer one on one support
48:17
Speaker 3: and coaching, and I have a Herpes women's group support
48:21
Speaker 3: program where we do monthly group support calls. And those
48:24
Speaker 3: are really fun because it's all kinds of tea.
48:30
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so important, guys, Oh my god,
48:35
Speaker 1: just for the tea.
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Speaker 3: We do have some good chats. Yeah, And it's so
48:41
Speaker 3: nice to have a community of people where you feel
48:44
Speaker 3: like you're not alone when you're dealing with these things
48:46
Speaker 3: and you're crazy because we're all going through it in
48:50
Speaker 3: our different ways, but we have all of the same
48:53
Speaker 3: emotions around these things, and being in community with other
48:56
Speaker 3: women is just so powerful and empowering. So thank you
49:01
Speaker 3: so much for having me.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for being on here. And we
49:05
Speaker 2: really just hope that that if you are impacted by
49:08
Speaker 2: an STI a chronic one, or you struggle with chronic
49:12
Speaker 2: vaginal infections, or you struggle with you know, self confidence
49:16
Speaker 2: around those things, please check out the Yoni Nutritionist and
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Speaker 2: her services because she is out there bringing not only
49:25
Speaker 2: awareness and confidence back to individuals who are struggling with
49:29
Speaker 2: these things, but she's also bringing healing into the world
49:32
Speaker 2: and we appreciate that so much.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and authenticity, Yes, amen to all the authenticity.
49:38
Speaker 4: Like that's just it's so regularly.
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Speaker 2: It's just very commendable.
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Speaker 4: Also to all of.
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Speaker 4: And thank you Adrian.
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Speaker 2: We love you.
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Speaker 1: We're so glad to know you now, and listeners please
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