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Scream (2022) With Costume Designer, Emily Gunshor · The Art of Costume Podcast

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I'm like Mike Myers who has evidence of like blood on him
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goes face, is always clean. That's yeah, you know.
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So this is something that for me like logically.
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I was always like Nate, I don't understand they're like don't
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ask questions. Hello and welcome to the art of
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costume podcast. I was with Joyce glass and I'm a
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gale weathers Fanboy, Spencer Williams Elizabeth oh nothing
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much Spencer, you are at Gale weathers Fanboy.
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Oh my goodness. Happy spooky season.
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Officially this is our first episode where we've recorded and
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it's actually spooky. We know.
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It's so Exciting. I I've actually been watching
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like spooky movies. I'm getting ready to come.
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Visit you even though probably when this, when this is
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released, I will have just left California.
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Oh yeah, so I hope you had a good time.
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Oh, I'm sure we did flying helmet.
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Florence machine killed it. We probably went to the academy
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Museum trillion. Some Aiko is hioki content.
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Maybe we saw a couple movies. I don't know.
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We had a good. We probably did.
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We probably did. Um, we definitely did not go to
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Halloween Horror Nights. We were too busy, you know,
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we've yet to set our itinerary Spencer but now other than that
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things are going good. How about you?
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Good. I feel good, I feel live.
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This is our season. I'm so glad you finally fall.
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I mean it's still a little warm out for my taste but I kind of
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feel like it's getting a little bit darker outside a little bit
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earlier. So I just I feel like it's
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coming. Hey, I put the heat on today so
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I don't know what you're talking about.
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Okay. Well that's a bit extreme.
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Probably the only person on the East Coast who put their heat on
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today, but I was like 60 degrees.
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Is too cold. That sounds like an Elizabeth.
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But yeah, the world it was like 60, something inside and then it
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was like 50 degrees outside. I was like, no, oh my gosh.
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Yeah, no. I have every fan on still, but I
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haven't turned the AC off at night though.
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So that's a sign. Thanks like Groundhog Day.
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Yeah. When you see starts to go off
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less and less the you like all right.
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Yeah it's coming. My cat's cuddling with me way
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more. She's like hey this is, this is
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ridiculous. But we also Elizabeth.
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I'm so excited. We actually got a little bit of
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a spooky surprise, just a season.
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Spencer, I cannot tell you how excited I Was when are the very
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first person to use our voice mailbox everybody?
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Our voice mailbox is lit. You want to know how I know?
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It's lit. Aggie, Gerard Rogers, the
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costume designer of Betelgeuse was our very first Callin him to
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the mailbox. Looks like we're getting to a
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point where were like, okay, maybe people don't wanna leave
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us voicemail voicemails we haven't you know it's kind of
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like a Dusty cobwebby voicemail box and then suddenly I'm just
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out and about and I get this notification.
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It's like Aggie, Rogers has left you a voicemail house.
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Like what Elizabeth would you like to hear it?
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I would love to hear you've been withholding this from me.
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I would say that for this very moment.
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Let me play it. I just wanted to tell you guys
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that. Anyway, this is Agee your
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podcasts. Pretty cute.
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Thank you. The orange tab.
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Set that. Catherine wears in the kitchen
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is actually the father's sweater Ward upside down, so she steps
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into the arms, and then pulls it up like a skirt.
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And then we put a belt All tan and we figured that out in the
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store in La early on so that was definitely a look.
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I wanted to use. It was so funny so that that's
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something that you can have. Oh my gosh, that was a sweater
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that's incredible. I'm trying to remember back and
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that never down to me and I even got another like text message
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where Agee was like, I can't believe, no one's noticed the
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sweater and like, I'm sorry, I don't know how I've seen
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Beetlejuice 2 million times. Yes, it's never.
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I feel the need. We need to put like, a PSA out
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on like, The Tick-Tock on our Instagram.
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We need to be like everybody. We Is this for like 30 or 40?
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But wait, there's more. I enjoyed your little podcast
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today about Beetlejuice. I did leave you a little voice
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message on the website because it kind of led me to that.
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And then I listened to the very end of the log and found this
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number. So, I'm glad you didn't answer.
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Thank you, and please don't call me back.
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But anyway, it's fun. All the stuff that you guys like
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so much. One thing I really like is the
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black and white stripe fabric. We could not find a stripe like
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that out there in the manufacture land.
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So the costume shop made its own black and white striped.
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So they sold white fabric on the black, fabric on the white
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fabric on the black surface, and we had a great costume shop and
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I have a short deal on that movie.
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So I didn't stay to the end. So the costume shop and the
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supervisors had to get going on a lot of stuff on their own, and
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they're very talented, and they did a good job.
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I'm so lucky that you guys love it so much.
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I did run into Tim, like, 34 years ago in London and that was
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thrilling for me. I hadn't seen him in years and
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he came around the corner of some fancy thing and he knew
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right, who I was. So, Sometimes people forget.
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So anyway, I loved your comments to about that.
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Couldn't have been a coming out with movie.
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Yeah, we're just very different and I am grateful that I had the
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first two. They were the most fun.
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I think. Okay, take care, keep going.
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You guys sound like, you have a good time.
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Okay, Carry On. Bye-bye.
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I love her. So sweet.
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Oh my gosh. I yeah, I don't know.
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That's amazing. It's just very emotional to.
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Yeah, I don't know. I just I grew up watching
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Betelgeuse and you and I love this podcast so much.
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So having a geek all another Palace.
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That's amazing. I'm gonna like an emotional.
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But yeah, I like never. Like we make these and unless
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we're having an interview you don't at least I don't really
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expect the costume designers to necessarily like see that we're
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putting out this episode about it, their work so to know, you
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know, however, she came across it and that she appreciated it.
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I love that. Yes, she follows us on
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Instagram, I didn't know because her Instagram.
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Username is not her name and nowhere on her Instagram.
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Does it say Agee Rogers? And this account has been
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following us and liking our stuff forever.
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When she messaged me. I was like, Ugh, use that you
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like, it was the funniest thing. Oh, that's so sweet.
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I love the tidbits that she gave us the behind the Wardrobe
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facts. Oh my gosh, I never would have
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guessed any of them like that doesn't credible.
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I can't believe it was hard to find like black and white fabric
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like that Stripes. You would think that would be
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something that's like at every Jo-Ann's Fabric.
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But yeah, black and white On the map.
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She did, she did. Oh, Aggie, thank you so much.
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Thank you that it really means the world to us.
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That's so cool. And don't worry next year.
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We'll be doing Pee-wee's Big Adventure, so stay tuned.
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Yeah, Spencer is insistent. So we will definitely be doing
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that when she said the first to, like, Tim Burton films.
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I'm thinking she's talking about Pee-wee's Big Adventure.
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I think that's the other one. I think so too thinks, so too.
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If that Elizabeth we have an amazing episode.
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What did we watch this week? We watched scream 2022.
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Spencer, so excited. This is like one of the
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spookiest movies ever the screen franchise.
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It's one of my absolute favorites.
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I watch Scream year round so I don't need a holiday to watch it
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but in terms of the podcast, now is the time but we're not going
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quite yet to the 90s. Maybe.
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Next year, we'll get there eventually but we're starting
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with the 2022 version. We are so Spencer why don't you
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give us a little summary for this Legacy foam will do 25
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years after a streak of brutal murders shock to quiet town of
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Woodsboro, California. A new killer Don's that goes
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face mask and begins targeting a group of teenagers to resurrect
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secrets from the town's deadly past.
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And that is the 20 T2 film scream.
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That's so exciting. I I'm not the biggest fan of
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horror. You really got me into horror.
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You were like the first. I, you probably don't know that
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because I like really did not watch horror films till till
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College, the that's a proud achievement.
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Yeah, and I didn't watch the first scream to a last year when
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I was doing the designing horror series.
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So I well Seemed like clips from like some of the other movies,
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right? I've never watched all them
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through. So it was for me, it's really
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like scream. And now the new one, right?
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It was very it was a very direct correlation for me and I was
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like, oh my gosh, like it was so fun, right?
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Yeah. Screams 2, 3 and 4 are good.
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I love those movies, but for someone who's never seen them,
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it totally makes sense for you to go from the first scream to
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the last screen, because everything in between is just
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the usual. It's just lots of killing.
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Yeah, poor Neve Campbell Sidney Prescott.
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She just goes through the same shit, different years, he goes
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through it. Me Cox has an interesting
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haircut and one of them. So she also has her own fair
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share of troubles. And what I love about this new
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one is you don't really have to watch the ones in between
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because the way they discussed, they directly talk about it in
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the film with these quote-unquote stab movies.
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They're like, oh yeah, like people love this so much that
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they just say it bluntly, like every couple of years and and
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would burrow, like, there's a spree of murders and then it
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gets made into a movie, right. How do you live in this town at
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this point? Same with like Haddonfield also
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like people. Yeah, there's other towns of
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living. But anyway, so exciting.
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Let's go behind the Wardrobe so we can talk about this.
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We have directors Matt that tonelli oplan and Tyler Gillett,
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and we have costume designer. Emily gun Shore, her notable
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work is Benders, the last OG Halloween star, girl, and
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Halloween kills. Her current work is 13, The
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Musical and Halloween ends Spencer.
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I think you have surprise for us.
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I do. And we guns or has been
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following us for a little while. Vice versa, I am a huge fan.
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And, you know, we just figured it's statista season spooky
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season who better to go to than the horror Queen herself.
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Emily gun Shore is here in the studio with us today and welcome
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to the podcast. Emily welcome, thank you for
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having me. We're so excited to meet you.
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I feel like I've been stalking your work for a couple years now
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and And it's just it's about time and it perfect timing, our
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Halloween episode. So we're so happy to have you.
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Thanks. Yeah, to talk all things
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Halloweeny with you, but before we get into the spookiness of it
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all because I will omit, we just, you know, binge scream and
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Halloween. So it's been a creepy couple
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days over here. Time, I start something a little
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bit more joyous on Netflix currently, you have a new film
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13, Musical. It's so fun.
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It's about a boy who transitions from New York City to Indiana
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and really wants to celebrate his bar.
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Mitzvah, it was so fun and so joyous, the songs are stuck in
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my head. How did this come about?
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Yeah, so I worked with Tamara Davis, the director of 13 on
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Star Girl. In 2019, which is a show for DC
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and what good one really? Yeah, we just totally hit it
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off. And she told me about this
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project, I grew up as a ballerina and a dancer in my
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early life. My first career was a ballerina.
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So I've always had an Infinity for musicals and theater and
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dance, and she told me she was going to be doing this movie,
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and I was just like, I have to be a part of.
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This is so they also happen to be Jewish and I had a bat
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mitzvah. So I was really just excited.
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You know, horror has kind of been something that I've been
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doing The past couple of years, but I have two children and
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being involved in Musical dance. Teenage project was just really
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exciting for me. So that's how it happened and it
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was total opposite. I mean, not always opposite
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making, you know, still creating kids clothing and character
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development and all of that, but different color palette, not so
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many multiples for blood and her own.
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Kids growing up. I was thinking about that as I
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was watching. I was like, this is so different
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but I'm like, but isn't though, I mean it's still a lot of the
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same processes may be just without all the multiple Buckets
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of Blood. It's still a dance, you know, so
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much fun when he some colorful. Yeah, so many times in making
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this and like creating friend groups and the stereotypical,
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like, types of kids with in Dynamic of a school or a group
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of friends, Even, you know, I thought back to like scream or
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even Halloween when, you know, there are these groups of kids
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and it's very life, life repeats itself in a circular way.
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So, you know, it were middle schoolers but they're all, you
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know, they need to be friends and have clothing and details of
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their interest that tie them together, but they also need to
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be like individuals so that the fun part of costuming them all
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for me so much fun. Everyone who's listening?
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You have to go to Netflix and watch 13 musical.
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It's on right now. I watched it last night and I
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had so much fun. Put me in such a good mood
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before we went back to watching scream and it's.
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So now, let's talk about scream Emily.
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I'm so excited. At first, I have to ask, you
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know, and scream fashion. Are you a horror fan and what is
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your favorite scary movie? Funnily enough before I met
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David Gordon green to do Halloween, I was not a horror
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fan at all like don't know, scared, don't like scary movies.
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And, you know, obviously love David Gordon green and all of
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his work and was like he's iconic.
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I want to do this, love the idea of rebooting a franchise and
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getting really into the research of the history of these
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characters over years. And David said, to me, wait, you
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don't like horror movies. I was like, no.
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Oh, not at all. This is going to be really fun,
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and then he proceeded to give me a list and list of his favorite
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horror movies and now I love her movies.
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I love them all. Like, I listened to her
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podcasts, I listen to like, all the scary things, so I don't
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necessarily have a favorite horror movie because I there,
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you know, I like, I tend to like old old horror movies, right?
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But I get scared really easily. No, I I feel bad.
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I was in your shoes, probably up until College.
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That's when things started getting dark over here.
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I like to watch her films in the morning, like 6:00 in the
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morning afterwards. I got that.
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That's me. That's definitely me.
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Yeah, that sounds like Elizabeth.
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I was texting Elizabeth, like late at last night.
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I was like, are you watching scream right now?
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She's like, no, I'm late. Like what?
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It is scary but it's not like as scary and gory because you can
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still pull your like there's a level of Camp to it.
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Yeah, you're like shaking and sweating but you're also like
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kind of laughing. Like obviously don't answer the
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phone right now. Scream definitely has a it's a
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huge franchise and you're now part of this like really long
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Legacy. How did you feel when you first
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found out you got this project, especially Not starting out as a
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fan of horror. Yeah.
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So I was like, super excited to work with the radio silence guys
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because they had done the movie ready or not and I just loved
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that movie and the like the gore that went through it and their
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camera angles were super artistic.
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So I was really excited to get into scream with them.
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I also like part of rebooting franchise That's so exciting is
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that you get to like go back and watch the other ones and then
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pink. That you want to carry on our,
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you don't want to carry on. So that part was really
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fascinating for me. And then also considering like
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Neves character, like it's been however many years since we saw
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her last and trying to figure out like what makes her tick now
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and where she is and how the psychology of all the chaos that
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she's been through, has made her the person.
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She is now and how we show that through clothing.
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Yes. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited Yeah,
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it's crew plans over here and same with Courtney.
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I mean we basically went through for each of like the iconic
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characters and you know, you start with the research, it's
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the same on any project whether it's period or modern when
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you're doing like these Legacy things, you got to watch all the
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other ones and then consider the choices that were made there.
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So it's almost like you have this connection to the designers
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that came before you, you know, because you need to learn to
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channel their energy and their creativity.
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And then Change it and make it your own right?
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Exactly. You're like looking to the Past
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paying tribute to what's come before but then also
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revitalizing it to make it your own and leave your own mark on
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the Legacy, which I think you did such an amazing job.
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And you really see it in some of the different characters which
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we'll get into. Yeah, thank you.
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Yeah. It was, it was really fun and
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true screen fashion. The film opens with a pretty
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gruesome phone. Call seen it.
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I definitely saw what Doing with the costume Tara played by
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Jennifer Ortega, I particularly love this first look, because it
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has that cozy sweater field that we remember on Drew Barrymore.
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Yep. It feels more modern and
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contemporary. She's a 2022.
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Girl, who's probably on Tick Tock and texting.
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And it's not like, I totally saw the transition here.
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How was there a process behind? This particular look, I mean you
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nailed it, 100% was. It was Drew Barrymore in the
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sweater with the phone. And it was this Oh, sweet
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moment. And you want the audience to
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feel like she's just this sweet naive young girl.
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Who's up to? No good.
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And there she is. You want to be able to see the
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blood as it comes on. So you want to color that is
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light enough to write that but then also dark enough to hide
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the packs, which, you know, there were some moments in this,
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where we saw shadowing, my God. So I saw it myself.
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No, you know, you really embrace the feeling of who, this girl.
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She's a modern 2021 2020. Whatever.
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You have around their kind of kind of high schooler.
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Yeah. You did it often I believe it
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also still flattering and girly but not too girly.
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You know, all the all the things is so fun.
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It's always one of my favorite scenes just the first 10 minutes
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and I left the pink on her too because it just feels that feels
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very general. Tyga, to me the song.
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It's pink, totally. It feels like so sweet and
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natural. So sad, we also get to meet this
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is I think this is my favorite part of this movie was meeting
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all the new Woodsboro teenagers obviously things are groom for
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them but they have a pretty modern sense of style but it
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also feels like thrifted. How did you decide like the feel
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and the vibe for each of these characters?
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So each one of them, you know, it's about digging into their
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backstory a little bit and like coming up with what type of kid,
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they are to be Collective and definitely the actors have some,
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you know, semblance of who that is and who they feel comfortable
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being. But, you know, for like Wesley,
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he was, he's more The Artsy type, his, you know, his family
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was connected, you know, his mom's the sheriff.
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So we wanted to make him like not militaristic because then it
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would be Be opposite. You know, kids are kind of it
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was saying of their mothers and Amber, you know, I kind of
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wanted to set the tone straight off that Amber was like this
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tough chick, you know, that she's like, she's kind of
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badass. They all together, you can see
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how they would be friends, how they would like come together
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but then they each have their own different personalities and
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the the siblings Chad, you know, he's on the football team.
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He's like The Jock, he's so You know, trying to find the like,
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one little thing that puts them in the space live actually.
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I was kind of inspired for her character by one of the kids in
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Scream. I think it was the second
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screen, the girl who dies in the role gate of, because she also
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dies at the end that little skirt.
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So, I mean, one of the other screens, one of the teens died
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and got wrapped up in the gate of the garage, And that like
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mean girl Vibe with the skirts. So I wanted to push her into
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that character. That's so cool.
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That was a Rose. McGowan, I believe.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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Rose, we go and that's it just trying to find something about
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each one of them that kind of gave them their their thing
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their heartbeat, you know, right.
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So fun and I just love like the nerdy.
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On the twins also being my gosh. I remember they were like nieces
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or nephews of the one character who passed away.
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So there's like a legacy with each of these characters as well
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because their mom, what was the name of their mom was also the
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sister. Like she was also a Legacy
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character and she comes just for that one moment and she's kind
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of also the Meekers. She's kind of got like a little
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bit of dorkiness like what dorkiness now is in 2020.
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One is, is so different than what it was in the 90s.
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So, it's cool, you know, so it's like giving each of their
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character being nerds is cool. Now, totally, we know it.
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One character that is definitely different from the 90s is dewy,
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and it was so good to see him. In this new one.
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What was your kind of evolution for him?
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Yeah, it's so David is amazing. And all we've ever seen Dewey
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and any screams is in this uniform would never seen him at
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anything else, so it was like, wow.
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The world's our oyster like, what do we do with this man?
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Yeah, I never noticed that. I actually know, I think of it.
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So something that was really important to me, was that we try
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to keep his color palette, similar to the uniform.
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I mean, it's more of a khaki than a tan per se, but like, In
26:11
that realm and then also for him to be like the off-duty, like
26:16
he's really in Addis depressed disheveled State.
26:20
He's living in that trailer home.
26:23
So just thinking about like this guy he does not care about what
26:26
he wears. He's wearing the same thing
26:29
every day and yeah he's kind of a society.
26:34
Do we make me feel bad? That was the hardest part of
26:41
this. Actually was seeing like the
26:42
shovel Dewey not watching the teenagers, get murdered.
26:46
It was Dewey's that outfits and it's sad life.
26:50
Like the more me depressed him. Like we kept putting more dirt
26:53
and sadder and then it was like, oh let him get wrinkly or let
26:56
him get Wrigley or it's not even reading, you know, it's like you
26:59
wanted to feel sad for him and then feel really, really sad and
27:04
mad at the series when he hits his demise.
27:07
Because, you know, somebody had to die but why him right.
27:11
Yeah, well to be fair, he would have been my pick to but still
27:17
it is very satisfied that for me, but it really was not give
27:21
up. Never Courteney Cox, it was just
27:23
not in question. I mean, it was a sad day.
27:25
Like the day, we shot his death on set.
27:28
People were sad, like, even just us making the scene.
27:32
It was like, it was so emotional, I think.
27:34
Yeah. Yeah.
27:36
I can't imagine. I would be a mess.
27:40
Yeah. Oh Gosh.
27:42
Yeah, but David was just like such a, he was so fun and such a
27:45
team player. Well, talk about somebody who
27:50
got an update Ghostface themselves from 1996, it just is
27:56
such an iconic look, but you really managed to update it.
28:01
How did you tell? How did you approach that?
28:04
Yeah. So we so I started with a lot of
28:08
research again on their original shape and And we were, you know,
28:12
the mask has to be the same. There's no changing the mask.
28:16
It's like, you know, and we had a lot of discussions, the radio
28:21
silence directors and I and the Chad Keith the production
28:25
designer just about, like, what was happening with the mask and
28:29
no questions, the mask was staying the same.
28:31
There was no age to, it wasn't going to get older.
28:33
You know, this is still supposed to be this costume that
28:36
interesting questions in scream like right now, would you these
28:41
People like Jack Quaid is like six foot three, and it's like
28:45
five foot eleven, or if I've been there five foot for
28:49
something so tiny. But like yet they're in the same
28:52
space costume or they're right here and it like, from a
28:55
practical sense of like this is movie Magic.
28:58
So how I still always, never know until the very end somehow,
29:02
it's still always works. Yeah.
29:03
And and the Ghostface is in all of these fights and does all
29:07
these killings. But unlike Mike Myers, who has
29:09
evidence of like blood, Don him goes face is always clean.
29:14
That's, there's no more like, there's no, like bullet holes
29:17
or, you know. So this is something that for me
29:20
like logically. I was always like, Nate, I don't
29:22
understand, they're like, don't ask questions like started with
29:31
the robe and the cape. I had a really Clear Vision as
29:34
far as like movement of what I wanted, how I wanted it to move
29:38
and I did did a couple. Quick little renderings and we
29:44
wanted to kind of recreate the robe to be the iconic 1996 one,
29:48
which was the original. And this fabric actually had a
29:53
lurex sparkle in it and there's like, super fans out there.
29:57
And somebody sent me a Swatch of the original Fabric in my
30:01
research. Yeah, which is like there's this
30:06
super fan and he has all the information, he has all the
30:10
answers. Anyway, Ways each of the
30:14
original one where I was able to kind of feel it and see the
30:17
lyrics and then we started searching for our Fabric and
30:21
what we were going to make it in.
30:23
And ultimately decided that the sparkle needs to be there, but
30:27
not always, and not necessarily as much as the 96 one.
30:32
So we I picked a fabric that had a slightly, more drape, heavier
30:37
weight than the 96 fabric, had a little bit more.
30:41
To it a little bit more movement.
30:43
And then my amazing. Adrian Dyer, who has actually
30:48
been with me for all of the Halloween's.
30:50
Also, this and she is brilliant April and about the April.
30:57
Yeah, definitely genius. So we played with actually
31:02
adding the sparkle on top of the fabric as a spray coat and then
31:07
we were able to control the amount of Sparkle.
31:10
So we actually had Had a robe that was slightly like, we had a
31:13
robe for outside lighting, and a robe for inside lighting.
31:17
That's so interesting. Farkle versus less for, right.
31:21
He actually also had a mask. So the masks come from the guy
31:27
in New Jersey who owns the rights to their original Mass
31:31
like they come to thing. So we don't get to make them
31:34
unlike also a difference from Halloween by the.
31:37
They're like here is your mask. You will use these math and
31:40
we're like we're We need 20 of them and they're like, here's 20
31:43
of them and then all slightly different.
31:46
So then we had to lay them all out and make them all identical,
31:50
you know, with the shading like they just had like little
31:53
packaging made in China marks or whatever.
31:56
Then we also played with the openness of the mouth, so, we
32:01
had a mat one. And we had a shiny one again to
32:04
play with the lighting of where we were using it to pick up
32:07
later, not pick up way, right? I love it so much because As you
32:11
know, like remembering the original one, it felt very to me
32:15
like you knew it was a high school student because it was
32:18
kind of like thrown together. You could tell that they maybe
32:20
went to Spirit Halloween store if it was around and like just
32:23
kind of put this piece together but in 2022 like we've had years
32:28
of, you know, these Scream movies, the stab movies, and
32:32
these teenagers know exactly what they're doing, of course,
32:34
like this generation. So the costume feels very
32:36
sophisticated and like, they've really, you know, Ghostface is
32:40
really at the Top of their game I would say.
32:43
So they have the expensive good fabric it just had a really
32:48
great feel to it. We like shredded the bottoms you
32:51
know. Yeah.
32:52
It had great movement than the hood like when you making the
32:56
hood of it I have like we basically had to build it out
33:00
with some foam because it couldn't collapse on one side or
33:04
not collapse on the others. Yeah.
33:07
Different types of boning and little bits of like phone Trim
33:10
in certain places. This has to make it keep its
33:14
shape. Right, that's so cool.
33:17
It was so scary. What else was scary?
33:19
Was the jump-scare. I got when Billy Loomis appeared
33:22
on my screen was not expecting that.
33:26
I people are going to be like where you tie my Billy Loomis.
33:30
Because his costume is so interesting to me that you had
33:33
to almost not 100% by kind of matched the blood patterns on
33:37
his shirt. It's not completely the same but
33:39
like we would expect it to be By see what you're doing there and
33:43
I thought that was so badass. Yeah, it was kind of one of
33:46
those. This was a very last minute
33:47
thing. Actually, we had a fitting with
33:49
Billy where we gave him a new costume but he had died.
33:54
So it was again like one of these questions and the
33:56
filmmakers we kind of went back and forth of like how they were
33:59
going to put this into the film because it's really just a
34:02
vision. It's her seeing him.
34:04
So is she remembering him as something else?
34:08
Like a photo she saw our video, she saw of him, or is she here?
34:11
Been wearing this and then we were going to do a clean white
34:14
shirt and I think that it was like the morning of that they
34:17
were like, you know what, let's try and make him like it's dead.
34:19
Like he's back from the dead. So cool.
34:22
And so we kind of scrambled to add the blood to be dish the
34:27
same, right? Yeah, it is.
34:30
So like I thought, what I thought what you're doing, I was
34:32
like, that's so cool. I like, I could not wait to talk
34:35
to you about it. It was just, it was perfect.
34:37
It was short. Sweet, and it just gave me
34:39
everything I needed. So, Because it's like all dried
34:42
up and he's just there talking to her back from the dead.
34:45
It's like such a like, yeah, not the worst kind of goes to have
34:50
around obviously and but we've got that shirt.
34:52
If it's Easter and we need a multiples of them, all of a
34:54
sudden and they were from, we were shooting this in the
34:58
pandemic and the I wanted to find a shirt with ribbing, it's
35:02
always the things that you think are so easy to find that are so
35:08
sent from Chicago from all different things.
35:10
God Chicago and one in La, I just needed three of them the
35:15
same, right? Here's the 30 ghost face mask
35:18
you need, but we cannot find us one white ribbed tee shirt.
35:24
That's so funny. Okay, every I'm so excited to
35:28
talk to you about this next looked for as long as I can.
35:31
Remember, I've been obsessed. If that original Gale weathers
35:34
highlighter soup, she wears. Yeah.
35:37
So then we have this a red look and it just felt like such the
35:40
perfect. Oh my But then also, like it
35:42
says, so much about Gail's Journey.
35:45
She's gone through this now, multiple times and gal, Courtney
35:50
Cox has come out as a complete badass by this new film.
35:53
So, read to me just said a lot about, you know, she was there
35:57
to do her reporting, but she knew right afterwards.
35:59
She's probably gonna go murder goes face after this.
36:02
Totally. This was a decision that like as
36:05
soon as I read the script and started watching, I had this
36:08
vision of her in a red pantsuit for The scene, ij's, it was like
36:12
one of those things. Like sometimes you're like this
36:14
is the right thing. And sometimes are like oh back
36:16
and forth so much so that I was sure about the red pantsuit.
36:20
I mean, I did like research and presentations and pulled
36:22
pictures of her other things and there was lots of discussion but
36:25
like in my gut I knew she needed to be in a red pantsuit for some
36:29
reason. It just felt like the right
36:31
color the right choice. And you know, we were again
36:35
shooting this in the pandemic and she was in Allah and I
36:38
wasn't allowed to fly to LA. To get on planes.
36:42
And so, I had to shop her and prep, the looks in North
36:46
Carolina and then send stuff to her house and send somebody from
36:51
l.a. who was local, so that nobody was going on an airplane
36:54
because covid, protocols, right? So much so that I was like, it's
36:58
going to be a red. I spent like three versions of
37:00
red suits and I was like, talked to Courtney on the phone was
37:04
like, are you into this? Like are we sure everybody's
37:06
into this? Because it's, and yeah, it just
37:10
like a really. Ali.
37:11
Embodied this like It embodied, Gale weathers it embodied.
37:16
A person who has gone through so much and been this.
37:19
I goti 80s, bright colored kind of tacky.
37:23
Newscaster to a woman who has moved to New York and become
37:26
kind of sophisticated, but it seemed like the right
37:29
collaboration of time periods to be a good choice, right?
37:35
It's so good. Elizabeth, this is my one
37:37
costume to rule them. All from this pill is just so
37:40
much to do that. It was so excited.
37:45
It's just so good. It's she looks amazing.
37:48
I just love you. Courtney Cox if you're listening
37:51
anyways she's amazing. Yeah.
37:56
Now we have to talk about our Leading Lady.
37:58
Neve Campbell who plays a Sidney Prescott.
38:02
This was so exciting. She looks amazing.
38:04
As always to me this look she's wearing like a leathery jacket
38:09
and I imagine this you know Sydney unfortunately has gone
38:13
through this Well, many many times when she showed up in this
38:16
jacket, I was like, oh, she's wearing armor.
38:18
She's definitely in the mood to battle Ghostface.
38:21
She has to fly home and see her kids soon.
38:23
She's not in the mood to play around.
38:25
She wants this done in the next couple of hours.
38:28
Totally, that was like that. Was it, it's like, she really
38:31
has one look, one look in the movie that has to like, say so
38:35
many things. And yeah, it was like she needed
38:40
to wear a jacket because this, this jacket this It was a narrow
38:44
jacket, the color was like a deep burgundy.
38:47
It just felt like, again, it was an accumulation of this young
38:53
woman and like we we went through, or I went through and
38:56
Screen grabbed all of her looks from each screen and kind of
38:59
line them up as an evolution and think that, now, she's become a
39:04
mom and she, you know, we see her running very briefly and
39:08
she's just in a jogging outfit but then she's leaving her
39:12
children and she's Back, as you said to fight goes face, like
39:16
she means business. She's wearing he's wearing
39:19
boots. She's tough yet.
39:22
She's cool. And this is a color that we've
39:24
actually seen her in, in past movies, The Necklace.
39:30
There was a necklace that she wore in, maybe the third movie.
39:34
That was also like a gold round circular necklace.
39:37
This is an updated version of it but like similar style that she
39:42
would hold on. To.
39:44
And yeah, she's just tough and she means business ready to
39:48
fight, right? That's a badass energy.
39:51
That means she might as well showed up with like a sword and
39:54
the Lord of the Rings armor. She was trying to get home in
39:57
time for Saturday Night Live or something.
39:59
You know she was ready but it is ready.
40:04
Well Emily. This is been so fun.
40:06
I love scream. I love what you did.
40:08
The costumes were just so amazing.
40:12
Is a perfectly Paid homage. But then you gave it such your
40:15
own twist that it felt so current and modern and
40:18
relatable. And it's just like Peak
40:21
storytelling through costume. As I thank you.
40:24
Thank you. Well, Emily.
40:27
If you don't mind, we would also love to talk to you about some
40:30
of your other films are coming out.
40:32
It's a spooky season. You're also to costume designer,
40:35
for Halloween and Halloween kills.
40:37
Yes, I am. So if you don't mind those and
40:42
then And right now it's Halloween ends, right?
40:46
I think by the time, this is coming out, it might even be
40:48
out. I'm not sure.
40:49
So, let's take a quick break and when we come back we're going to
40:55
talk to Emily about Halloween and Halloween kills.
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42:01
Axon that. Yeah and Emily is so cool.
42:05
I'm obsessed with her. I want to hang out with her
42:07
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42:11
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42:14
Halloween. Yeah, like all back-to-back
42:17
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42:21
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42:23
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42:26
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