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Hair Empire Founder Chaz Dean Knew WEN To Trust His Gut · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to I Choose Me, the podcast about learning to choose yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I am sitting across from someone who has run his
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  Speaker 1: fingers through my hair for a good part of twenty
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  Speaker 1: years now. To twenty years, Chaz Zine has seen me
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  Speaker 1: at my absolute best and my absolute worst, sometimes on
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  Speaker 1: the same day. And Chazz is the founder of When Haircare.
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  Speaker 1: He's a QBC superman and hairstylist to the stars. I
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  Speaker 1: cannot wait to share with you the reason for so
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  Speaker 1: many of my good hair days. Chazz Dean, Chassy Dean,
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  Speaker 1: you're here, I'm here. Well, we've been trying to make
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  Speaker 1: this happen for a while now, and I'm just so
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  Speaker 1: happy that you're here at my house and you are
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, You're just You're just the best.
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  Speaker 2: We go back, we go back. Oh so back, mm hmmm,
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  Speaker 2: so back.
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  Speaker 1: So back that it's you. You did the hair on
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  Speaker 1: us gals, Yeah, the nine two o gals. Yeah, back
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  Speaker 1: in the nineties.
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  Speaker 2: I know, to you and for you and Tori, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you say, and you don't have to.
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  Speaker 2: Are you're in the same age realm?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Reason I know this is because I went to
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  Speaker 2: her twenty first birthday at the House of Blue, as
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  Speaker 2: you remember, so I know I was doing your hair
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  Speaker 2: prior to that. That's the crazy part.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't know, we don't even know exactly.
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  Speaker 2: No, so before you were before you were twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: so you're probably nineteen or twenty when I started doing
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  Speaker 2: your hair, which is great.
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  Speaker 1: It hasn't been that long because I'm only twenty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Well, say thirty one, you are older. I was just
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  Speaker 2: a little two years older.
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  Speaker 1: Then back then, Oh my gosh, Well it just feels
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  Speaker 1: like we never lost ways because we kind of parted.
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  Speaker 1: What you did your thing, I did my thing. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't see each other for many years, and then QB
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  Speaker 1: happened reunited us.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
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  Speaker 1: It's the best. Okay, First of all, you walked in
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  Speaker 1: here with a gift for Dottie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're new.
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  Speaker 1: When by kasdine win pet's luxury pet.
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  Speaker 2: Beds, she's like the sleeping I can't even.
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  Speaker 1: See her in there.
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  Speaker 2: She's in a fort she's in her own What is
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  Speaker 2: that fortress over there?
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  Speaker 1: That is gorgeous. I love the color, it's so perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got this small latte.
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  Speaker 1: We love the animals, don't we.
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  Speaker 2: My I just literally because we just got them last week.
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  Speaker 2: So I literally just put the large ones. And my
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  Speaker 2: boys still sleep in their crates because it lets them
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  Speaker 2: rest and sleep. If they're out, they're always you right now,
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  Speaker 2: they're always going. So when it's time for them to sleep,
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  Speaker 2: they're in their crate. So I put the large one
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  Speaker 2: in their crate and they it's like cocoon them. It's
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  Speaker 2: like this. They're just the happiest and it just went
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  Speaker 2: I just said yesterday because they've had He's in there,
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  Speaker 2: pats in them, but they actually have their faux fur
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  Speaker 2: they do in there, and I will start posting because
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  Speaker 2: just to watch them lay in it, it's like they're
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  Speaker 2: being hugged by it. It's they're so happy.
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  Speaker 1: It's the getting the dogs are getting a hug from chasdine.
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  Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want that for their pooch. You guys got
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  Speaker 1: to check it out for sure, because it's really cute.
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  Speaker 2: I've had the people climb in them too, just so
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  Speaker 2: you know. Everyone that's got there so far said the
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  Speaker 2: first end is got in them with my dog.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you think I'll fit in that one,
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  Speaker 1: not that one.
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  Speaker 2: We can get in with the large. Well, you need
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  Speaker 2: your medium a large. The large one is like a
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  Speaker 2: better upgraded version of bean bagshairs. Think of it that way.
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  Speaker 1: It is gorgeous. Well, thank you for that. You just
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about when a little bit first,
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  Speaker 1: because where we see you built this incredible business, this brand,
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  Speaker 1: and you were a newbie in town. You were nineteen
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  Speaker 1: working at a salon and you were innovating even then.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for other people, imagine that.
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  Speaker 1: With a concept, right and you that's where you first
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  Speaker 1: came up with your cleansing conditioner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was out of a product I created for
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  Speaker 2: another company, which is the Sexy Concept, Big Sexy Hair.
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  Speaker 2: I created their first ever three products and they're worldwide
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  Speaker 2: billionaires now, yes, but I created their first three products
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  Speaker 2: for them. And it's when I purchased the salon that
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, why am I using shampoo? Because it kept
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  Speaker 2: stripping the hair. I knew that I kept I think
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  Speaker 2: you remember, no, because I found you. Once I gave
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  Speaker 2: it up. I started adding vegetable color to the shampoo,
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  Speaker 2: think it would help the color stay. It didn't work
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  Speaker 2: so well. Added to the shampoo and the conditioner, but
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  Speaker 2: I knew the shampoo was stripping us. I'm like, how
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  Speaker 2: do I clean the hair and eliminate that. That's where
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  Speaker 2: it all started. Remember I used to mix you guys
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  Speaker 2: bottles and send you home with.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you said that shampoo is like a harsh detergent
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  Speaker 1: stripping our hair.
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  Speaker 2: Of all that was like your clothes and how you
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  Speaker 2: strip your clothes and they lose, They lose elasticity, the
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  Speaker 2: color phades, They start to fray and fall apart because
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  Speaker 2: it's so harsh. I think, I know you know this
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  Speaker 2: about me. I washed my clothes. I cleansed my clothes,
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  Speaker 2: and when I really do, wait a second, it really
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  Speaker 2: too And I watched my dog bes and when no
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  Speaker 2: put it in the washing machine, you mix it. You
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  Speaker 2: dilute it first. You dilute it first, just like think
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  Speaker 2: of it as a concentrate. I mix it in the
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  Speaker 2: wind pet poddles. Because of the wind pet poddles. You
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  Speaker 2: put the cleansing conditioner in there, put water in there,
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  Speaker 2: shake it up to it. It's more I liquified and multified,
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  Speaker 2: and then I just add that to a washing machine.
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  Speaker 2: I usually do lavender, sometimes teachery, but lavender is so
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  Speaker 2: good and so calming. Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's real.
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  Speaker 1: You have all the flavors.
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  Speaker 2: It's real.
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  Speaker 1: We couldn't even wouldn't have time to list all the
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  Speaker 1: flavors you've developed over the years. But I think that
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  Speaker 1: it's just so impressive, Like I find your story so impressive,
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  Speaker 1: especially now revisiting you and seeing what you've done since
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  Speaker 1: we were our friendship was interrupted by whatever time. But
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's so incredible that you have built
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  Speaker 1: this business you have after you bought that first salon
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  Speaker 1: at nineteen. First of all, how did you do that?
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  Speaker 2: How did you.
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  Speaker 1: Buy a salon at nineteen? Did you have people supporting you,
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  Speaker 1: helping you, encouraging you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the deal. Here's how it worked. I was
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  Speaker 2: lucky on one part. My brother when we were he
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  Speaker 2: was a teenager, I had aunts and uncles that lived
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  Speaker 2: in Hong Kong. So my grandparents took my brother on
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  Speaker 2: that trip and we I was next in line and
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  Speaker 2: then my sister. We were supposed to go, but it
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  Speaker 2: never happened. So when this opportunity came up, my grandfather says,
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  Speaker 2: here's what I'm minute to do. Since you didn't get
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  Speaker 2: to go to Hong Kong. I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 2: the money that for the you would have if you
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  Speaker 2: had gotten to go on that. So that's how it was,
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  Speaker 2: honestly a trade out, a trade out. I didn't get
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  Speaker 2: to Hong Kong. I got my salt.
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  Speaker 1: You got a business.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a business. And then I borrowed money
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  Speaker 2: from my parents, but they didn't have we didn't come
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  Speaker 2: from money. I paid that back and so forth. They
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  Speaker 2: trusted me a reliable son, so I paid those back
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't have any money, so I maxed out
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  Speaker 2: credit cards just to renovate the space. And it wasn't major.
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  Speaker 2: It just made it feel a little more homelike. And
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  Speaker 2: was this the one in Beverly Hill Gun Center and
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  Speaker 2: the center?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I love that spot. And then you purchased what
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  Speaker 1: has become your forever home. Chas Deine Studios started out
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  Speaker 1: as one bungalow and now it's six. You guys, you
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  Speaker 1: have to you have to go there. It's six beautiful bungalows.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you stepped into a little village. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a hair spa, day spa. You never want to leave spa.
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  Speaker 2: You just aha moment me because the reason what catalyzed
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  Speaker 2: me to do that is you remember the Star and
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  Speaker 2: inquire and all those magazines. Yeah, what made me actually
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  Speaker 2: do and this is a real and I don't talk
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  Speaker 2: about this barely. What made me do it is Torri
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  Speaker 2: was in my chair one day and she ordered pizza.
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  Speaker 2: She was eating pizza and I was highlighting her hair
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  Speaker 2: and she was on the cover of the Star Inquirer saying, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: toy's not natural blanc. I'm like, she never pretended to be,
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  Speaker 2: but it felt so violating and I knew I potentially
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  Speaker 2: would lose her as a client because she's in my
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  Speaker 2: chair at my salon. Because they used to drive by you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, drive by the windows
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  Speaker 2: slowly and tech do a click click click, because the
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  Speaker 2: Glen Center was a safe haven generally. When they discovered
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of celebs were hanging out and going
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  Speaker 2: there because it was a safe haven, they started to
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  Speaker 2: exploit that. Because Warren Baty used to be up to
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  Speaker 2: your member's offices were there, there were in that bending.
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  Speaker 2: There were so many people that would go up there.
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  Speaker 2: And once they discover it and they started exposing it,
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  Speaker 2: I knew I'm going to start losing these guy, I
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  Speaker 2: had the Gretzky's. I had so many people up there,
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  Speaker 2: e Er, Juliana, Margyliz. But my point is if they
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  Speaker 2: don't feel like they can come there and let their
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  Speaker 2: guard down and feel safe, I'm going to lose those people.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what made me move from an exclusive neighborhood
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  Speaker 2: in bel Air to Hollywood. When I moved to Hollywood
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  Speaker 2: is not what it is now, though it was dirty.
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  Speaker 2: It was before Hollywood and Highland before that was all random. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was before that, and people thought I was insane.
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  Speaker 2: You're leaving one of the richest neighborhoods in California to
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  Speaker 2: go to Hollywood, which was like crack Alley. Then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I remember going to my intuition.
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  Speaker 1: That's incredible though, what I mean people were calling you
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  Speaker 1: crazy and saying you should definitely not move to this location.
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  Speaker 1: But you knew in your gut. Have you always been
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  Speaker 1: a person that listens.
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  Speaker 2: To the because I don't question it. I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's just imagine like
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  Speaker 2: a string being there and something pulling you towards it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going to question it. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to trust it. Even though when everyone around me is like,
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  Speaker 2: you're crazy, what are you doing, I'm like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just I'm trusting my intuition.
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  Speaker 1: That is so admirable because you were really young.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really.
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  Speaker 1: Because a lot of people. Yeah, a lot of people listening.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they have had these little inklings do brave things
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  Speaker 1: like that, but then they everyone them. Everyone talks you
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  Speaker 1: out of it.
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  Speaker 2: The other part that's important is my mom. Today's today's
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  Speaker 2: my my mom and dad both passed away. My mom
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years ago, my dad five years ago. Today
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  Speaker 2: is their wedding anniversary. So when you book this day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, it's that's why this light
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  Speaker 2: going on off. I feel like it's them. I really
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  Speaker 2: think they're like, I'm here with you. It's their wedding anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: They were together. They were together since high school until
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  Speaker 2: my mom passed away of cancer and my dad five
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  Speaker 2: years ago. So my mom would always be worried and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Mom, I just knew this. As a kid,
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  Speaker 2: I would always say, mom, Leah, we grew up with cats,
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  Speaker 2: and when you take a cat and you drop it
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  Speaker 2: upside down, they always flip over. And as kids, you
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  Speaker 2: think that's fascinating or whatnot. You I don't know if you.
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  Speaker 1: Know that, is that true?
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  Speaker 2: If you do it on a bed to make sure,
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  Speaker 2: but you hold them upside down and they always flip over.
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  Speaker 2: At least I knew that as a kid. I remember
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  Speaker 2: that My cats.
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  Speaker 1: Are known to always slam on their.
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  Speaker 2: Feet, lamb on their feet, and I always told her that,
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  Speaker 2: my mom, I'm a leo, I'm a cat. Then she
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  Speaker 2: would always scratch my back and I'd be like a cat,
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  Speaker 2: like don't stop, don't stop. So I would remind her,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a leo. I will always let to my feet.
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  Speaker 2: If it's not this, I'll do that. If it's not that,
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  Speaker 2: I'll do that. She always worried, And I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: have photography. If it's not photography, it'll be here. If
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  Speaker 2: it's not here, it'll be makeup. It's not this, I
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  Speaker 2: will always land on something. But she always worried for me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't have to. The blessing in this
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  Speaker 2: is as you're asking about when she knew my vision,
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  Speaker 2: because it was nineteen ninety three in my vision. She
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  Speaker 2: was diagnosed in ninety six. She passed away in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and one. So it took me all that time
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  Speaker 2: to launch it in November of two thousand, so just
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  Speaker 2: just three months before she passed away, I launched it
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  Speaker 2: so she was able to see my dream start in unfold,
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  Speaker 2: which is it's a lot. And I know she's been
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  Speaker 2: with me through the journey and whatnot. And I tell
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  Speaker 2: people like I know people that just lost their mom, like,
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  Speaker 2: just see them around you. They are now. And I
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  Speaker 2: learned this. She knew what she knew of me from
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  Speaker 2: what I let in when she passed away. It's like
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  Speaker 2: my brother passed four years before her freak accident. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you know this. In September thirteenth and
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  Speaker 2: ninety seven when we had El Nino, he saved a
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  Speaker 2: thirteen year old boycott and rip tie at Carlsbad State Beach.
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  Speaker 2: And I've never been there, but I've meet so many
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  Speaker 2: people from Carlsbad. I'm like, I lost my brother lost
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  Speaker 2: his life there. So he before her, Yeah, he died
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  Speaker 2: a hero. And she had been diagnosed with her cancer.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember as a child her telling us when
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  Speaker 2: we were in Pennsylvania, so I was probably ten eleven twelve.
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  Speaker 2: I remember being on drives and I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: started the conversation. I remember her saying, oh, I know,
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  Speaker 2: because we were going to relative funerals. And I remember
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  Speaker 2: her saying that she prayed to God none of her
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  Speaker 2: kids ever went before her, Oh my gosh, because she
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  Speaker 2: didn't know if she'd be able to handle that. And
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  Speaker 2: I remember I had to be the one to tell her.
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  Speaker 2: And this is before cell phones, and I'm not trying
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  Speaker 2: to name, but Paula was my client, Paul Abdul with
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  Speaker 2: my client time. Many people didn't have cell phones in
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  Speaker 2: ninety seven, but she had one. And when I found
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  Speaker 2: out that he had passed, she was there. She literally
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  Speaker 2: gave me her cell phone because didn't have cel phone.
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  Speaker 2: We had pagers maybe, but she gave me her cell
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  Speaker 2: phone because my parents were out in see Me Valley
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  Speaker 2: and I had to go out there and be the
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  Speaker 2: person to let my mom know that her son had passed.
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  Speaker 2: She had been diagnosed with cancer a year and a
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  Speaker 2: half at that point and going through treatment. And I
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  Speaker 2: remember when I didn't plan to go here, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know where we were going today, but when I was
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  Speaker 2: one to tell her because I knew she had said
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  Speaker 2: she'd hope none of us ever went before her. She
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  Speaker 2: didn't know she could handle it. When I told her,
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  Speaker 2: I remember, it was like a well the sound that
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  Speaker 2: came out of her. No, I didn't like and hear
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  Speaker 2: it to this day it should have been me. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, don't say that.
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  Speaker 1: So that was a traumatic day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And when her time came, I just reminded her
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to be with Jimmy again. You'll get
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  Speaker 2: to see Jimmy again. You'll be united with Jimmy, and
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  Speaker 2: you fall along in her and it's okay, We'll be okay.
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  Speaker 2: So my point in that is is when she passed,
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  Speaker 2: I knew that he has shown me signs, so I
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  Speaker 2: knew that she would be around me. I knew that
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  Speaker 2: because he had shown me that you had already thought that.
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  Speaker 2: So thank god, I was prepared somewhat because I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just I became spiritual. I had to know that there
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  Speaker 2: had to be something go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I had that same experience, like you
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  Speaker 1: can't really feel it until you've been seeing very close,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, you go through all the stages of.
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  Speaker 2: Grief of what is after this and yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then then you get them back in the most beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: If you're open, if you see it, and my brother did.
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  Speaker 2: He did it right away. It was up in the
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  Speaker 2: Glen Center and birds flying in the salon, and I
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  Speaker 2: knew because you know, you know me, those doors were
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  Speaker 2: always open. I spent years and you remember that. So
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  Speaker 2: I saw the sign. So when my mom passed, it
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  Speaker 2: was the same thing. I realized that she knew as
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  Speaker 2: much about me as I shared with her. But now
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  Speaker 2: she knows everything about me. And I really one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent believe that that she's omnipresent in my life. She
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  Speaker 2: sees things you might not even want to. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean in the shower is that they everything.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm being serious. They're omnipresent everywhere around you. Whereas
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  Speaker 2: before when she was here, it's like, oh, I forgot
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  Speaker 2: to share this with her. I forgot to tell her that,
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  Speaker 2: But they are so if that helps give people peace
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  Speaker 2: of mind, it's what I believe. And in middle school
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  Speaker 2: we learn that you can't destroy energy. It just changes forms.
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  Speaker 1: Right, we talk about it before. I've talked about it
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: before with other people who've gone through it, and it
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: is the same thing that I hear over and over
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: is what you're experiencing what I've experienced and what I
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: like to tell people who've just lost someone when they're
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: ready to hear things. You know that this is the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: opportunity for you to have a whole new relationship with
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: this person, which is really beautiful, so true, very hard
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: to handle, but it's also very real. Yes back too,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know how we got there, but with landing
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: on my feet.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Listen to your intuition, knowing that this West Hollywood, it's
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: not even West hollywo it's Hollywood location. Was the home
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: and now it is. It's basically the half the block.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah that it's honestly the whole block except one home.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: And they've been there since the sixties, which is crazy.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: And they're not they're not selling.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Not yet. She said, to let me know when it is.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I know where B two is. There's B one, B two,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: B three when I purchased B two and B three,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: which are the other bungalows the salons. When I first
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: did that, I hadn't intended. It was the day I
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: went and got my variants, meaning I could use it
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: as a salon. I don't know if you know this.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: It used to be a film editing studio really, the
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: one Bungalow, the one, the main one was a film
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: editing studio and Rob Reiner edited every one of his
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: films there. In Quentin Tarantino question, was edited there? A
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: sure thing was.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: You've got some good Hollywood vibes in there.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: And I've had people, We've met people that are now
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: our clients that their cousin lived upstairs in what was
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: my office, and then someone else that lived there. So
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I we just had a client that was just in recently,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and they were just random people that come like she, oh,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: she used to work there. She worked for the filmating studio.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: This was just like last month. So to have that history,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: because the buildings are around five years old, Yeah, they're
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: from nineteen twenty one. So to have that history is really.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: It's really really cool. Did you have did chas Dein have?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: It sounds like this was easy for you, but I
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: know it wasn't, and I want to never I want
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to ask you about like when you face obstacles, when
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you face the challenges, because I'm sure they started coming
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: at you right away, how did you handle them?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: You just it's a part of the life. Thing you control,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: the things you can, and you have to accept the
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: things you can't. And I remember my sister even saying
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the better kids when they're growing up, She's like, you know,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: is it a moral issue or not. If it's not
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: a moral you'll deal with it and move on. It's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: the same sort of element. If it's something I can control,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: then you know I'm going to fix it, adjust to
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: control it. If I can't, I have to see the
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: best light of it, and how can I overcome this?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: So those happen regularly. I hate saying on a daily no,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: that's business. Yeah, problem with how the how the business
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: has grown. It's like it's literally wake up and I
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: don't even like saying anymore now knowing and I have
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: this thing that we call it what's our blessing for today?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: It's like, look at us a blessing and turn it
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: into instead of oh my gosh, like, okay, show me
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: my lesson in this. And it's really hard to do.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Your schedule is packed, and it can be overwhelming and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: daunting and become something that is like a grind.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it had gotten to it's been since COVID. It's
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: gotten the point where you're like you're almost afraid to
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: wake up and look at your phone or your emails
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: because you're like, what today, And I don't want to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: have that mindset. So we're trying to turn it over. Okay,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: what blessings we have coming today, and we're calling them
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: back because there's got to be a blessing behind your
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in Somewhere's how I'm trying to see if that makes sense.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: You just said something about your transformation. What did you mean?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: My spiritual guidance was if you remember Reverend Dela re
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Slam touch by an angel for twenty five years, she
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: was my minister and she became we became friends, close
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: friends before she passed away, which was in twenty seventeen,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: so wow, almost nine years ago. She molded and shaped
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and helped me grow into who I am today. One
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: hundred percent believe that. But it was she taught her
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: lessons from her living the lessons as well. She would
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: tell you her life and I've been this and that,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and this has happened, and that happened. Here's what I did,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and you've got to find the blessing in it. So
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it's going back to that. They just honored me, like
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a couple months I saw that I got honored, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I don't go as often because it's different. It's like
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: she was, she was part of me, do you get
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: what I mean? And it's different, it's not the same.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: So it makes it a little harder because she's not there.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So it makes it harder. So I still practice my spirituality,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: it's just in my own realm, if that makes sense.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So went back to it. So many of the people
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that when I used to go were there and from
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: out of state and out of the country, ministers and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: so forth, and it just did bring it back of
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the message of like what is my blessing in here?
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Instead of why is this happening to me? It's like
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: show me my blessing? What is my blessing? And you
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: kind of have to because there's so many there are
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: so many obstacles, and that what I was saying is
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: since COVID, the obstacles have gotten much crazier. They really have.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So I don't want.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: To talk about it, but I know that, like I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: know that there has been some legal stuff in your
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: background with the brand that you've had to deal with,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure was really tough eleven years ago, believe
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: it or by the way, if anybody's listening, going, why
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: does he know every date? Chaz knows every date of
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: everything that ever happened to him and to you, so crazy,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: He yes, like this memory of numbers, Yes, you're magical.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I just found out. We just GVC thing. Take us
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: back to I just spoke to it, and I believe
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: because if you notice the thirteen, my mom is six thirteen,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: my brother was nine thirteen. It's like thirteenth. I've closed
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: escrow at the Slawn on June thirteenth of ninety seven,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: on a Friday thirteenth. I just found out today because
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: we spokes are a buyer. And she goes, I believe
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: they're gonna have your TSB on November thirteenth, and it's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: a Friday the thirteenth. I'm like, oh my god, that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: is the best stuff for me because it connects all that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: So having said that, yes, my numbers are and then
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: she knows that I closed ESCO on this slaon on
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: June thirteenth, she goes, that can be part of your story.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't even know. And it doesn't mean
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: it's all good things like my brother passing. No, that's
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: not a good thing, but it's still a prevalent, something
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: significant significant. I closed escrow up my house when I
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: moved out this lawn in Los Felis area on June
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: thirteenth as well. You can't make those things happen.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: No, really, that's like serendipitous.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When she said, oh, and it's my buyer's birthday
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: is that day? November thirteenth is a Friday thirteenth, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: she says they're birthday, I'm like, good, because it's great
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: luck for me.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Let's take it. Let's do this.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so beaking of a number of person, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: am that person. I don't know why. It's just I've
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: always been numbers, you know, with your color and all
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that numbers.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It is so true. If your hair looks amazing, you
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• 23:00
  Speaker 1: doubted himself? Have you ever had limiting beliefs about you
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: or what you can do? Because I talk about imposter
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: syndrome sometimes I've had it, and a lot of people
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: experience it, and so many people experience limiting thoughts. Maybe
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: not beliefs, but just those thoughts that keep us from
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: reaching for the next great thing.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. It's weird. I don't. I don't. You
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: know me too, I don't have those because what it
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: is is I know what works for me and doesn't.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not a mechanic and I'm not an electrician,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: So if I pretended I was, that would be different.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: So because I do things that I know, I can't
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: like the gardening of this construction. I love that remodeling.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I love that I do things that I'm passionate about.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So no, no, no, Maybe when I was in school
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: and classes that I didn't do good at, maybe does
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that make sense?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no, Differently yeah, I.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Don't go down past I know, and that's not for
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: me or it's not going to work. And it doesn't
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: mean it's easy. It's definitely not easy. It just means, yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I don't doubt. If anything, I have to convince everyone around,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like the glansing industry or giving that up and no
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: flattering has no curly arens no heat that. Yeah, it's
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: more I stand behind what I believe and does that
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: make that makes sense?
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It makes sense. But for some people it's not as
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: easy to weed out all the other voices that are
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: deterring them from reaching their goals.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: You have to follow your passion. If you follow your passion,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: not what someone else's passion is for you or what
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: they believe you should be doing, it makes it. And
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that's what I tell I've done this with people when
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: we go on, like years ago, went to rehob with
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: in this family, I'm like, you could tell they're miserable
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. I'm like, close your eyes. If you could
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: do anything you want in life and you don't have
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: to worry about the family, the kids, paying the bills,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: anything you want, don't take money out of the equation,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: what would you do and this person was not doing
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: a job they liked. I can't remember what it was,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: but it was just, you know, a nine to FIVEE.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But no, and he's like, I would be a chef.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, then that's what you should be doing. What
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: it is, and everyone knows what it is, but just
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: close your eyes and if money's not a factor, family's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: not paying bills, all that's removed from it. What would
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you do? Everyone does know that it secretly lives within them,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and if you follow your passions, it doesn't mean it's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: can be easy, but it's going to take you to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: where your joy and your happiness is. That's for sure,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: because that makes sense. Absolutely, we will do what people
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: tell them they should be doing, or what you.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Think, or what they signed up for in college, what
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the parents do.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what the parents want to do.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: And some people listening myself included, struggle to find what
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it is that's.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Their passion by what that way in high school when
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: everyone was picking about this in school and as I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: didn't fit into any of those pegs or boxes or
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: squares or whatnot, and I'm like, I felt like I'm
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: not good at any of those things, or that doesn't
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: speak to me. And then when I finally realized, like,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: but I am photography. I love that. I'm like, didn't
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: realize you can make a career out of it. Not
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: so mine didn't fit in all the things they told
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you you can be here, you can be here, you
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: can be photography wasn't one of those choices. It was
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: hairstyling and all. Honestly, it wouldn't have been in there.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: So it's like I found my love for photography through
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: high school. I took it for two and a half years.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I joke that I don't know how I graduated because
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I cut most classes. I went to photography, and that
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: was my passion.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You do all your product photography. I love that because
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that's an art in itself, very detailed. Everything you do
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: is beautiful and so curated and so thoughtful to maintain
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the integrity at the park.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: I learned that through photography. I have over seven hundred
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: and fifty thousand photos on my phone.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I need coffee table one hundred.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Fifty thousand videos on my phone.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: It's real, we need a photography like a coffee table
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: book from you.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I should do that because I've always wanted to.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: It's funny, I've always wanted to do that too. Let's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: challenge ourselves and make it happen. You haven't used regular
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: shampoo in over twenty five years, not on yourself, or
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: your dogs, or your any of your client. Well, he
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: just let his hair down, you guys.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Since nineteen your locks, yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I can tell they are soft.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: And I haven't colored my hair almost three years. This
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: is my natural.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Amazing.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I haven't colored since I already know August fifth of
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I know that's yeah, August fifth, twenty
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: twenty three. It was last time I highlighted. And the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: rest is it's just one. There's a natural.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It's gorgeous.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: It's still a little I mean you are about three
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: hours ago.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: You are the model for your lifestyle brand.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't used leather, hair, faced body, and word
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: skin since May first and nineteen ninety three. That's the
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: day I opened this alone.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And that has been a message that you've been trying
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to get across to people. Not that we don't need
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: no regular commercial shampoo and conditioner.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: No, you shouldn't let alone, don't.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Why why tell us why we should?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It strips everything out of your hair, everything out of
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: your hair, including your color, and even if you are natural,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: like mine is natural, but it's still with make it
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to whar. My scalp is oily, My ends are dry
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: because it's robbing and stripping everything. The thing I tell
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: them to really think about is whatever products feel like
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: on your hands, is what it's doing to your hair.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: When I was an assistant and I used to before
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I help them create their products, we used to use
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a high end and it's still on the market, high
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: end brand and their shampoo and their conditioner, and I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: would go home as an assistant and my cuticles will
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: be cracking and bleeding. I would put asila, I'm sleep
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: with gloves on our socks on them, go back to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: work the next day for it to happen again. It
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: was a vicious cycle. And I knew that all those
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: chemicals are what we're doing it. And we would try
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: to wear gloves to cleanse people. But when it's with shampoo,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: it's like it hurts because you're pulling on the air
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: as you're doing Like, I can't have you wear gloves.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So we weren't allowed to wear gloves when you shampooed
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: because it was pulling and tugging. I knew that that
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: was happening. Then I saw the client's color fading, as
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: you know. And then I knew I was shampoo and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: conditioning twice a day, fourteen times a week because I
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: was so oily Because every time you stripped your scalp,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: body works over time to replanish it. So all those
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: things I knew, I'm like, so how do I fix it?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And I know how to eliminate culprit, which was the shampoo.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so many hair products when you think
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: about it, they smell like alcohol or perfume.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Perfume is the other part, So perfume or alcohol. Yeah,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: it's just so stripping on your air. So yeah, and
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: then you use conditioners just to get a calm through,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: which weighs it down because it's all polymers, fillers, bind
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and waxes to detangle it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: So when I first I love it when you talk fast,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: war when you talk, especially when you talk about products,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: because you've said it so many times.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Waxes, it's like lines and tigers and.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Bears ouch, and it takes me like five minutes to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: figure out what you just said.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Polymers, fillers, pillers, binders, and that's what's in. If you
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: reach it's water, and then all these things, so many
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: well water, all these chemicals and then all these things. Yeah, polymers, fillers,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: binders and wax It's true. And keep you say, I'm
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: like power spilers, binding and waxes, al attigers and bears. O.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: My, it's so funny because you do it all the time. Okay,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: so why do you call it it? Win?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Because if you guys, when because you already know you
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: came to me. Nikolatte was my first celebrity. She sent
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Tory Nichola. Yeah, she was my first, and I thank
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: her and bless her for it. She's the same thing.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: We speak again. We're friends. We've always made friends. But
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: she's out a maliboum and I don't see her that often,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: but she and I go back. She was on Notts
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Landing when I met her. She was Paige and I
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: used to have a crush on her. And when I
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: first got to her hair, like, are you gonna be okay? John,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'll be fine. But I think everyone
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: had a crush and she was hot girl. But she
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: sent you, guys, and when I tell you, and she
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: would tell She told Torri, Okay, you're going to go
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to him. He's going to get you off the bleach.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: He's going to get you off the shampoo. Just trust him,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: because we remember he trust him.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Going to work. No, he doesn't know my hair, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: have fine hair, is not going to work. And also
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: that was it. You guys would leave me and I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: would say, They're like, okay, I'll try it, but I
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: just don't know. I said, it's a whole new way
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: of looking at cleansing your hair. And most people think
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it's a backwards way. So I said that for years
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it's a whole new way. It's a backwards way. Whole
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: new way. It's a backwards way. So when it came
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: time to naming it, I knew I wanted a three
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: letter word because of you know how I am with
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: all numbers and all that stuff. I knew I wanted
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a three letter word. I knew I wanted to have
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: meaning and I want to have a very zen feel
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: to it. So I'm like, I always tell people it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: a new way of looking at cleansing your hair. So
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I wrote new one a piece of paper and I
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: held it in front of a mirror and I said,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: new when new When I'm like, I like that a
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: new backwards way, so it all has meaning.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's new when a new.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Backwards way of doing it. In most people's eyes mine
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: it wasn't, but most people thought it was a backwards way.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You recommend not washing your hair for how many days?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Well, lather ever with Okay, lather ever if you're cleansing
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: with the cleansing conditioner. On all honesty. I have people
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: that do it twice a day because they work out
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. You'll never dry out from it. The more
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: you do it, the better of the results. So you can.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: But what it is is you don't have to. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: went from literally fourteen times a week twice a day.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a choice because it would rob my scalp.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It would get oily, vicious cycle if I was going
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: to dinner or movie. You know when you get that
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: oily and it's like it's being irritating. So I remember
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: those times, but that was in ninety three. Was the
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: last time that happened to me. But my point is
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: is that I went from fourteen times a week, twice
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: a day to now I do it like twice a
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: week and it gets better on day two better on
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: day three, better on day four. There's times that I'm
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: like on day six and seven, I'm like, no, I
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: really like it today. I'll wait till tomorrow. I'll wait
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: till tomorrow. So you can do it as often as
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you want, but knowing you can wait is absolutely amazing.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk so much about the specifics of
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: your products because they need to be discussed, but I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: wanted to get back to some bigger life things because
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I know we mentioned before you lawsuits and you've.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Say that, yeah. The only reason because I do want
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: to clear that we okay. When that happened. At QBC,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I was the number one beauty run number one for years.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: It was it was always at the top was Philosophy
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and below them was par Essentials and I was third,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and then in twenty fourteen I became second. Twenty fifteen
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I became first, and that's when Lassuit hit number one
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: KBC and I was number three in the country. And
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: that's what people don't know about us. There were the
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: top two, which you know, we all know who they are,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: the top two, and then it was me. So it's
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: not even intentionally but right on their back door because
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: we had the infomercial that was worldwide and it was
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: playing everyone's TVs like it was a number one infomercial.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I think I was you were, Yeah, you were? You
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: were in the informercial we got in GLED. I think, yeah,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: you were in our infomercial. Sorry, I just when Allie
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Robinson was in it. I think that same one.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I believe that sounds right.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: But because we were in everyone's face, and because I'm
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: not a corporation, I'm an individual. On no, I don't
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: have backers. I don't have I don't have anyone back
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: in my brain. It's literally just me, and I'm proud
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: of that as well. However, I became a target. And
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I'll just say now that we do know that the
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: reason we were investigating by the FDA is because the
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: person who requested that was their number one backer was
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Johnson and Johnson, who we were right at their back door.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Who do you think had me investigated? So really think
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: about it. And the point is is that I didn't
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: have all the statistics, but we did over thirty three tests.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I've spent over three million dollars on testing, and everyone
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: came back negative, negative, negative, negative, negative, loss or damit,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: everything negative. So I'm like, imagine I was on number fifteen.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: We have an the one we can do. Okay, let's
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: do it sixteen seventeen up to number thirty. We have
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: another one we could try this, Let's try that. We
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: want to leave everything, ever, no stone unturned. So imagine
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: if I was on number thirty two and the thirty three,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the third one came back positive, it would have erased
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: all the three monient ever race spent. So if you
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: think no one in their right mind would keep testing
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: after even twenty or thirty, but to still do it, Okay,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: you have this one. They've done it where they injected it,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: they've done everything on the testing, and it's on our website.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: You can jeck it. So my point was that was
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: all a little too late, though, because it took years
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: to do that, and as it because I wasn't planning
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: on settling at all, and as it kept going, it
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: just kept getting worse and worse. And they're like, you
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: cannot settle and go to court and you most likely
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: will win this, but you may not have a business
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: by the time you're done. So like, that's the only
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: reason I settled. And we're in a world where people
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: know they know it's it's easier to settle than it
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: is to go and do that.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: How did you remain resilient during that time?
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Doctor Reverend Delarice Lad that's where she there were it
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: was I couldn't because what it did for me is
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: it questioned my character and anyone that knows me knows
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I stand in conviction of who and what I am.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I've had to let friends and stylists go from my
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: salon who were doing Brazilian blow out because when I
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: go on are, I say, we don't use girls, use plans,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: we don't use some lacktor, we don't use bleach, we
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: don't use this. And found out someone was doing a
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Charatan's treatment at their home. I'm like, I can't go
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: on air and speak of we don't do this, and
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: you're doing that. It makes me look like I'm a liar.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: But I was blindsided by it, and I'm like, so
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I had to let that person go to this day,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: she's still a friend. She's still a friend, but if
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you question my integrity, I have nothing. So when this came,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: it's like, of course the question my integray went on.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you just feel like, how can you come,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: can you overcome this?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So that period that that struggle was hard, that you learned,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: what's the hardest thing you've ever had to say no to?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't do things that I'm okay with, you
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's like if it goes against
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: but I have so I have boundaries. So I'm trying
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: to think, say, what's the hardest thing I said no to?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Is it in your careers? In your personal life?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Probably? I guess it might be personal life, Like I
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: don't I'm not like I'm single, you know me, I'm
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: single most of my life and I'm very okay with that,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and people or like, no, really really I am because
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I won't settle no, you won't make sense. I won't
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: settle so proudly that and you shouldn't.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know that there's anybody out
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: there that deserves you.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, you are something that's I feel it was
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: meant to happen. It'll happen. But I guess it's probably
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: that saying no to something I know isn't right. That
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: makes sense, right? I get chances. I give chances, and
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, and if I see something like no,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: it's not okay, and so it probably would probably be that.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And also just like getting past society's desire to couple everybody.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Up, Yes, which is crazy. It's crazy. It's like and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I think people are now more figuring out once they
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: become single and whatnot. They're like, like, my sister's married
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: to marriage since I well mat or a man in
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: high school. But she at this point knows if anything happened,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: she would remain single because you realize they're sacrificed. I'm like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: that's okay, and I'm not trying. Their marriage is great,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: but if anything were to happen, She's like, I wouldn't
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: because I think you realize how much like I give
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: them myself in every aspect GVC, salon everywhere and my
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: alone time means everything to me.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, tell me about your alone.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Where ground and sentences.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, like, how do you
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: protect your energy? Because you are so generous with.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: It, I have to like at work, you or a no,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I give and give a gift. PVC, you give a
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: give a gift and I'm finding great with that. It's
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: in that wheelhouse. When I'm in my element, I can
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: be extrovert and train and educate and all that. When
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not in my element is where I cocoon in
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm like I do and it's people think, oh,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: you're a leo. You're like, no, I don't. I don't.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I can do and be passionate about the things I
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: do and talk about it, but if it's not my wheelhouse,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I'll just I want.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: To just see, Yeah, make retreat. You like your alone time.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: That's what recharges and I need that and I love that,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and I cherish that when at the end of the
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: day and when the whole staff goes home, like nothing
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: against them, no, but it's my space and my time
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and I cherish it so much. Yeah, And just even
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: with the angels, And it would probably be the same
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: if they weren't, I.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Say, angel Angels, doggies.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just make everything sweeter. But even without, if
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: it was just mine, it's more turning in and reflecting,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and it's things come to me, ideas and what not
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: come to me through in the shower obviously constantly because
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: you're you're tuned out and whatnot. And when I get massages,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: it's like because you're checked out, it's like ideas, I'm like, oh,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: my God, I gotta remember this.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not annoying though, when you're trying to get a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: massage and you're like light bulb bloop stopping or.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I wake up in the middle night, I'm like, I
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: don't like write me all down because it wakes you
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: up too much. But it's like when you're sleeping and
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: it comes to you that's an I thought an idea,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: and keep track of that and massage, yeah, definitely, because
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: it's just boom boom boom, and I'm like, okay.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Stop, everybody, just stop. What is one piece of hair
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: advice that's actually life advice?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: My first one that came to minde is hydrate hydrate hydrate.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: That's what one piece of hair advice is also life advice.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is well, I think the first thing comes to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: mind is stop the abuse. Stop the Yeah, well it's
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: life advice so well, because stop the abuse and stop
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: trying to follow the trends and just let it be right.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, before I let you go, Chustine, what was
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: your last I choose me moment?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I guess it would for me, it'd have to be
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: an ongoing existing one. Is like what I do is,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: as I said, I give give you all the day.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: So what I do is I reserve and I cocoon
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: my Sundays for me. I get invited to a lot
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: of things on Sunday, and there's things I want to do,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: but I know if I don't recharge today and turn
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: within and just be solo alone, and it's like plugging
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: in your vone. It's like I'm recharging on Sundays and
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: there's things some that are great there. It has to
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: be extremely special or something that I need to attend
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: in order to do it. Something happen to Hollywood Beauty Wars.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, not on Sunday, but I've had to do
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I have done that. It's true, it really is. I
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: protect my Sundays. I don't leave. I just home with
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the angels and I chill. I if I miss that,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: unlike I feel behind all week.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Monday comes way too quick.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I oh my god. I love that we're so similar.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Your Sundays they are well.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing all this insight with people.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You are just a treasure trove of just everything good.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: You are just a good human