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- 0:00Good morning. This morning's sermon will be different than usual. If you are a guest with us this morning, I want you to know that we normally preach verse by verse expositions through a book, the regular practice of our church.
- 0:16We are presently working our way through Paul's letter to the Romans, where we just concluded chapter 11.
- 0:22This morning, I want us to think together, though, about Christian unity as we have some news to announce to our membership, which I will share with you in just a bit.
- 0:34So a little break from Romans for an important matter. We will look at a number of texts today.
- 0:41So, and again, I don't love preaching. It doesn't start with a text and isn't text driven.
- 0:47But from time to time, it's important and necessary for us to do otherwise.
- 0:52But I'd like for us to begin in Romans chapter 15. So if you could join me there. Romans chapter 15, verses 5 and 6.
- 1:12We will exposit this text at length. So this is not your Romans 15, 5 and 6 sermon.
- 1:18We read,
- 2:18It's the very reason we get up in the morning that Christ would be known in our lives, amongst our families, our co-workers, and to the very ends of the earth.
- 2:28We want the praise of Christ to be sung amongst all peoples.
- 2:32And so we go to all the various places that God sends us.
- 2:38And Paul here is saying he hopes that the Roman Christ followers and you and I would be given grace for Christian unity so that the Lord Jesus Christ would receive glory.
- 2:50Not the only way he receives glory, but Paul here says that it is a way, and I would contend an important way, that he receives glory.
- 3:01But we don't always agree, do we?
- 3:05Sometimes we have personal conflict, and the Bible is replete with commands and instruction for how we are to set aside our preferences, bear with one another, with compassion, and reconcile.
- 3:20I think this is a church that does that very well.
- 3:24Sometimes we have convictional differences.
- 3:29Faithful Christians haven't always seen eye to eye on everything.
- 3:33If you're paying attention at all, you're very aware of this.
- 3:37Differences in understanding about what the Bible teaches.
- 3:42This has always been true.
- 3:45It's been an ancient part of the church to find disagreement amongst one another.
- 3:53It is true amongst us.
- 3:55We don't all see eye to eye on everything.
- 3:58We don't all agree on all things, and this creates some genuine challenges for unity.
- 4:06It would be much easier if we agreed on everything all the time, but this is also impossible.
- 4:13Our disagreements certainly create the need to ask that God would be gracious to us,
- 4:19that we might live in the type of harmony that exalts Jesus Christ.
- 4:25So, how are we to be agreeable while disagreeing?
- 4:32How do we disagree with charity, an old word for love, for one another?
- 4:38And we do so by employing, employing well, the practice of theological triage.
- 4:46I know that many of you may already be tired of me talking about this, but I think it's really important,
- 4:51so I'm just going to keep doing so.
- 4:54Triage is the process of assigning urgency or importance to a matter.
- 5:02If a bus that is full of people were in an accident, and that number was brought into an emergency room,
- 5:08those patients would be ranked for treatment from most severe need to least severe need.
- 5:15This is emergency room triage.
- 5:19This can, and I argue, should also be done theologically.
- 5:25If you believe that the Bible teaches a doctrine,
- 5:28and a well-meaning Christian brother or sister disagrees with your view,
- 5:33what are you to do?
- 5:35How important, or perhaps unimportant, is said disagreement?
- 5:42Theological triage helps us to determine this.
- 5:46We need to be able to think in this way and to do so regularly and quickly.
- 5:53Now, at this point, I want to be clear.
- 5:55The term theological triage was coined, as far as I can tell, by Al Mohler,
- 6:00the current president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
- 6:03So it's a recent term.
- 6:06However, the concept can be seen historically in the creation of confessions and creeds,
- 6:13Christians carefully pinning doctrinal standards for the sake of agreement,
- 6:18and, more importantly, as I will show you this morning in the Bible.
- 6:23So, as a modern practice under that term,
- 6:28it's also a very ancient practice that starts in the Scripture itself.
- 6:34So I want to lay out for you this idea of theological triage.
- 6:38Again, some of you are familiar with it, but some of you may not be.
- 6:43Theological triage divides doctrinal issues into four different categories.
- 6:49They're not creatively named.
- 6:52They're primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary, or first, second, third, and fourth order doctrines.
- 6:59To explain them to you, I'm going to take them out of order
- 7:02because I think it helps our understanding of them.
- 7:06So the first I want to address is the fourth,
- 7:08the fourth order doctrinal category or quaternary doctrines.
- 7:14And these are things that are just unimportant.
- 7:18Have a view and an opinion, but it really doesn't matter.
- 7:22And we don't come up with these very often because we're sensible people
- 7:26and we have a lot going on,
- 7:29and so we don't tend to muse about things like this.
- 7:32So my common example for this one is their life on other planets.
- 7:37And I've been asked this question by typically young men
- 7:40because they have too much time on their hands.
- 7:43And I'll tell you that my answer to them is,
- 7:46I don't know and I don't care.
- 7:49It's unimportant.
- 7:50Interesting to think about, but it doesn't really matter.
- 7:54The second I want to talk about is third order doctrine
- 7:58or tertiary doctrine.
- 8:02These are things that are not unimportant.
- 8:04They are, in fact, important,
- 8:07but they're important for the individual.
- 8:10There's commands in the Bible that we have to have some mind toward.
- 8:14What do we think this teaches
- 8:15and how am I going to practice it in my life?
- 8:18And you may find that you could differ from someone else
- 8:20that you have regular fellowship with,
- 8:23and that be okay.
- 8:25I think this area of our lives is a place in which we serve each other so well
- 8:29because we ought to hold it importantly
- 8:31and perhaps make a case to other Christians.
- 8:35How do we grow in maturity
- 8:36if we assume everything we believe the Bible teaches on the surface is right?
- 8:41Well, no.
- 8:41There's things that we grow in and we need to be taught in
- 8:44and we need to be pressing one another on.
- 8:48So some examples of people who disagree about alcohol as an example.
- 8:53There are people who are teetoters,
- 8:54think we should never ever drink alcohol,
- 8:56and there are people who think it's okay in moderation to drink alcohol.
- 9:00What kind of TV or movies you might consume?
- 9:05There are some clear, off-limit types of things to consume,
- 9:08but some people may have a problem with a particular TV show
- 9:11and somebody else may not have a problem with that show.
- 9:15Schooling choices is a hot one these days.
- 9:19Is it okay to send your children to public school
- 9:23or off to private or homeschool?
- 9:26These are important conversations for us to be having.
- 9:29Our family, homeschools.
- 9:33I would give you a theological foundation for why we do that.
- 9:36I would also give you lots of practical application.
- 9:40The way my wife and I think,
- 9:42it leads us to the conclusion that we ought to school our children at home.
- 9:47But you might see things differently,
- 9:49and this isn't a reason for me to put you in an unfaithful category.
- 9:55We're all growing and we're all learning
- 9:57and we're all doing the best we can.
- 10:02So, to find this in the scripture,
- 10:05you can turn back just a page to Romans chapter 14.
- 10:09I just want to show you an example of it.
- 10:11There's a number of places that Paul speaks to this.
- 10:15But here you can see very clearly, beginning in verse 1,
- 10:17as for the one who is weak in faith,
- 10:20welcome him,
- 10:22but not to quarrel over opinions.
- 10:27Welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions.
- 10:32One person believes he may eat anything,
- 10:34while the weak person eats only vegetables.
- 10:37This had to do with some Jewish customs.
- 10:39Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains,
- 10:43and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats,
- 10:47for God has welcomed him.
- 10:49Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another?
- 10:52It is before his own master that he stands or falls,
- 10:54and he will be upheld,
- 10:56for the Lord is able to make him stand.
- 10:59One person esteems one day as better than another,
- 11:01while another esteems all days alike.
- 11:04Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
- 11:07The one who observes the day,
- 11:09observes it in honor of the Lord.
- 11:11The one who eats,
- 11:13eats in honor of the Lord,
- 11:15since he gives thanks to God.
- 11:16While the one who abstains,
- 11:18abstains in honor of the Lord,
- 11:20and gives thanks to God.
- 11:23So, different cultural issues,
- 11:25when Paul is writing this,
- 11:27but all the same,
- 11:28tertiary types of things.
- 11:31Look at the way he's pressing at,
- 11:33you could go on to read the rest of chapter 14,
- 11:35and the beginning of 15.
- 11:36He's pressing at unity and harmony,
- 11:39right,
- 11:40for the sake of exalting Christ
- 11:42on these types of matters.
- 11:46So, those are tertiary types of doctrines.
- 11:51It seems to me that most of the conflict
- 11:53in local churches
- 11:54is when people take tertiary doctrines,
- 11:56and they promote them to secondary,
- 11:58or in many cases,
- 12:00into primary position.
- 12:02You can't possibly be a Christian
- 12:04if you don't see this thing
- 12:07the way I see this thing,
- 12:09and it's very dangerous,
- 12:10and we must be careful.
- 12:13So, let me go back up to the top
- 12:16and talk briefly about
- 12:17first order doctrines,
- 12:20or primary doctrines.
- 12:22These are the doctrines that are important
- 12:25for Christian unity.
- 12:28These are the doctrines
- 12:29that must be believed
- 12:32in order for somebody
- 12:33to be in Christ.
- 12:36These are the most important doctrines.
- 12:39When we talk about
- 12:40the clarity of Scripture,
- 12:41these are the doctrines
- 12:42that we would say
- 12:43the Bible is abundantly clear
- 12:44on these things.
- 12:48Examples,
- 12:49and there are a lot of examples here,
- 12:50but the deity of Jesus Christ.
- 12:54We cannot dismiss
- 12:55that Jesus Christ was, in fact, God,
- 12:57because if he wasn't God,
- 12:58then he was a liar and a lunatic,
- 13:01and we should reject
- 13:01everything that he said.
- 13:03He was, in fact,
- 13:05God incarnate.
- 13:07You must believe in the deity
- 13:08of Jesus Christ
- 13:09to be a believer.
- 13:12Justification by grace
- 13:14through faith
- 13:15in Christ alone.
- 13:17We've just walked
- 13:19through some difficult chapters
- 13:20in Paul's exhortation
- 13:21to the Romans.
- 13:23We believe as a church
- 13:25in sovereign election,
- 13:27but wherever you fall in this,
- 13:29in the minutia of this,
- 13:32you need to believe
- 13:33that we're saved by grace
- 13:34through faith in Christ.
- 13:36That's as far as
- 13:38the fisticuffs go for me.
- 13:40If you can affirm
- 13:41that you needed God
- 13:42to save you
- 13:42and that God will keep you
- 13:44to the end,
- 13:46then you and I
- 13:47can be great friends
- 13:49because we're in Christ.
- 13:52These first order things
- 13:54are the things
- 13:55that we're meant
- 13:55to fight for
- 13:57and to die for.
- 13:58This is the stuff
- 14:00that needs to stay central
- 14:01to what we do together.
- 14:04It's extremely important
- 14:06that we get this correct.
- 14:09It grieves me
- 14:10to watch Christians
- 14:11across our nation,
- 14:12mostly happening online,
- 14:14just be ripped apart
- 14:15by things that are secondary
- 14:17or tertiary
- 14:18when we agree
- 14:19on these first order
- 14:21and most important things.
- 14:24The enemy is so very pleased
- 14:26to find us infighting
- 14:27about less important stuff.
- 14:29Not remembering
- 14:31that we agree
- 14:32on the most important stuff.
- 14:35Those doctrines
- 14:36that push back
- 14:37the darkness
- 14:37of this world
- 14:39because souls are saved
- 14:40by the truth
- 14:41of the gospel
- 14:42of Jesus Christ.
- 14:44We need to help each other
- 14:46to do this.
- 14:47I inevitably
- 14:48am going to become
- 14:49distracted by something
- 14:50at some time
- 14:51and you are welcome
- 14:52to remind me
- 14:53about the stuff
- 14:54I'm supposed to be
- 14:55fighting and dying for.
- 14:56Don't let me fight
- 14:57and die for something
- 14:58that's not this important.
- 15:00This is the stuff
- 15:01that we live and die for.
- 15:05Very interestingly,
- 15:07during our members gathering
- 15:08earlier,
- 15:09Ernie actually read this text.
- 15:11I'm just going to read
- 15:11a little bit
- 15:11from the book of Jude.
- 15:13This is verse 3 and 4.
- 15:16There he says,
- 15:17Beloved,
- 15:17although I was very eager
- 15:18to write to you
- 15:19about our common salvation,
- 15:21I found it necessary
- 15:22to write appealing to you
- 15:23to contend for the faith
- 15:25that was once for all
- 15:27delivered to the saints.
- 15:29Right?
- 15:29I think this is what
- 15:30he's talking about.
- 15:31Primary doctrine.
- 15:33To contend for the faith
- 15:34that was once for all
- 15:36delivered to the saints.
- 15:37Here's why I think that.
- 15:39Verse 4 says,
- 15:39For certain people
- 15:41have crept in unnoticed
- 15:43who long ago
- 15:44were designated
- 15:45for this condemnation.
- 15:47Ungodly people
- 15:48who pervert the grace
- 15:50of our God
- 15:51into sensuality.
- 15:53They were cheap grace
- 15:54gospel people.
- 15:54They were saying,
- 15:55if you just claim
- 15:55the name of Christ,
- 15:56you can live however
- 15:57you want to
- 15:58and deny our only
- 16:00Master and Lord,
- 16:01Jesus Christ.
- 16:02Right?
- 16:03In this day,
- 16:04Jude is saying
- 16:05to these Christians,
- 16:06you have got
- 16:07to bring people
- 16:08back to justification
- 16:09by grace
- 16:09through faith
- 16:10in Christ
- 16:11and help them
- 16:12to see that
- 16:12that faith
- 16:13is a faith
- 16:13that will work.
- 16:16So,
- 16:17let's contend
- 16:18well together
- 16:19and I think
- 16:19we do this
- 16:20well.
- 16:21Primary
- 16:22doctrine.
- 16:25And then lastly,
- 16:27we have
- 16:27second order
- 16:28or secondary
- 16:30doctrine.
- 16:32And this is
- 16:33a little more
- 16:33difficult.
- 16:34I don't have
- 16:34a scripture
- 16:35reference for you.
- 16:36The one thing
- 16:37that comes to mind
- 16:38for me
- 16:38is the division
- 16:39between Barnabas
- 16:40and Paul
- 16:41when they had
- 16:42taken Mark
- 16:43with them
- 16:44who's a relative
- 16:45we think
- 16:45of Barnabas
- 16:46and Mark
- 16:47abandoned them
- 16:47because he was
- 16:48fearful.
- 16:49And when they
- 16:50got ready
- 16:50to take another
- 16:51journey,
- 16:52Paul refused
- 16:53to take Mark
- 16:54with them
- 16:54and Barnabas
- 16:55really wanted
- 16:56Mark to go
- 16:56and so there
- 16:57arose amongst
- 16:58them
- 16:58what Luke
- 17:00calls a sharp
- 17:01disagreement.
- 17:02And I take
- 17:03that to mean
- 17:03it wasn't
- 17:04friendly.
- 17:05It probably
- 17:05wasn't the
- 17:05way they
- 17:06should have
- 17:07disagreed.
- 17:08But all the
- 17:09same,
- 17:09they go
- 17:10separate ways.
- 17:11Barnabas
- 17:11takes John
- 17:12Mark with
- 17:13him.
- 17:14Paul goes
- 17:15another way.
- 17:16I think the
- 17:16thing we see
- 17:17that's wonderful,
- 17:18the redemptive
- 17:18thing,
- 17:19as we see
- 17:19later on,
- 17:21Paul is
- 17:21back in
- 17:22ministry with
- 17:23Barnabas
- 17:24as well as
- 17:25with Mark.
- 17:26There's been
- 17:26some restoration
- 17:27that has
- 17:28happened in
- 17:29that case.
- 17:30So there's
- 17:30an issue
- 17:31at hand
- 17:31that causes
- 17:32them still
- 17:33to be
- 17:33faithful to
- 17:33Christ.
- 17:34They still
- 17:34go on
- 17:34mission to
- 17:35spread the
- 17:36good news.
- 17:37First order
- 17:38primary doctrine
- 17:39stayed intact,
- 17:39but they went
- 17:40separate ways
- 17:41because they
- 17:42weren't sure
- 17:42how they
- 17:44should go.
- 17:46So maybe
- 17:46we see it
- 17:47there.
- 17:49This category
- 17:49are things
- 17:50that are
- 17:51important for
- 17:52church or
- 17:53perhaps ministry
- 17:55fellowship.
- 17:57Those things
- 17:57that we ought
- 17:58to agree
- 17:59on to
- 18:00remain
- 18:01institutionally
- 18:02together.
- 18:04These doctrines
- 18:05are going
- 18:06to define
- 18:06our practice
- 18:08and possibly
- 18:10define what
- 18:11we think
- 18:11is or
- 18:12isn't
- 18:13sin.
- 18:14It would be
- 18:14important to
- 18:15locate ourselves
- 18:16on certain
- 18:18issues.
- 18:19Some examples.
- 18:21What is a
- 18:22church's view
- 18:23on divorce
- 18:24and or
- 18:26remarriage?
- 18:27Why does
- 18:28that matter?
- 18:29Because we
- 18:29collectively,
- 18:31we're a
- 18:31congregational
- 18:32church, we
- 18:32believe in
- 18:33church
- 18:33discipline.
- 18:34Well, what
- 18:34are we going
- 18:34to call
- 18:35sin in
- 18:36these matters?
- 18:36It's
- 18:36important that
- 18:37we think
- 18:38about this
- 18:39together.
- 18:42Another example
- 18:43is whether or
- 18:43not a church
- 18:44believes in
- 18:44the regulative
- 18:46principle.
- 18:46that is to
- 18:48say, if we
- 18:49see something
- 18:49commanded in
- 18:50the Bible
- 18:50for us to
- 18:51do when
- 18:51we're gathered
- 18:52together, we
- 18:52should do
- 18:53that without
- 18:55fail.
- 18:55And if we
- 18:56don't see it
- 18:57commanded, then
- 18:58we shouldn't
- 18:59do that.
- 19:01So on a
- 19:02Sunday morning
- 19:02when our
- 19:02church gathers
- 19:03together, you
- 19:04will not see
- 19:05interpretive
- 19:05dancing.
- 19:07We don't
- 19:08find this in
- 19:08the scripture.
- 19:09Don't give me
- 19:10some example of
- 19:10David.
- 19:11We don't find
- 19:12it commanded
- 19:12to the church
- 19:13to do this
- 19:14thing in the
- 19:14Bible.
- 19:15And so we're
- 19:15not going to
- 19:16do that
- 19:17thing together
- 19:17when we
- 19:18gather.
- 19:19This is the
- 19:19regulative
- 19:20principle.
- 19:21We should
- 19:21agree on
- 19:22that.
- 19:23You may
- 19:23find that
- 19:24you don't
- 19:24and you
- 19:24may want
- 19:25to go to
- 19:25a church
- 19:25where
- 19:25interpretive
- 19:26dancing
- 19:27happens on
- 19:28a Sunday
- 19:28morning.
- 19:29As a little
- 19:30aside, Martin
- 19:31Lloyd-Jones,
- 19:32when he was
- 19:32hired, the
- 19:34church that he
- 19:34preached his
- 19:35life at, was
- 19:36known for
- 19:37their pageantry.
- 19:38They put on
- 19:39plays on
- 19:39Sunday mornings.
- 19:41And his
- 19:41first Sunday
- 19:42there, he
- 19:43dragged the
- 19:44pulpit, it
- 19:45was movable
- 19:46like this
- 19:46one, but
- 19:47he dragged
- 19:48the wooden
- 19:48pulpit across
- 19:49the stage.
- 19:49You can
- 19:49just imagine
- 19:50in the room
- 19:51hearing a
- 19:51wooden pulpit
- 19:52being dragged
- 19:52across a
- 19:53wooden stage.
- 19:54He dragged
- 19:55it to the
- 19:55center.
- 19:56He took
- 19:56out a
- 19:57hammer and
- 19:57nails out
- 19:58of his
- 19:58pocket and
- 19:59he hammered
- 20:00the pulpit
- 20:00to the center
- 20:01of the stage
- 20:02there in that
- 20:03church building.
- 20:04He was a
- 20:05regulative
- 20:05principle guy
- 20:06and he said
- 20:07the preaching
- 20:07of God's
- 20:08word is going
- 20:08to be central
- 20:08to what we
- 20:09do together
- 20:09as a church
- 20:11and they
- 20:11never put on
- 20:12another pageant
- 20:13there.
- 20:14Again, another
- 20:16good and
- 20:17classic example
- 20:18is a church's
- 20:20view on
- 20:21baptism.
- 20:22What do
- 20:23you believe
- 20:24but what do
- 20:24we believe
- 20:25together as
- 20:27it concerns
- 20:28baptism?
- 20:29We find
- 20:31denominational
- 20:31differences over
- 20:32this with
- 20:33brothers that
- 20:33we celebrate,
- 20:35rejoice with,
- 20:36we're so happy
- 20:37and thankful to
- 20:38be gospel
- 20:38partners with
- 20:39them but
- 20:40we are not
- 20:40serving in
- 20:41a church
- 20:42with them
- 20:42because we
- 20:43hold a
- 20:43different view
- 20:44on this
- 20:46issue.
- 20:48Which brings
- 20:49me to my
- 20:50aforementioned
- 20:50announcement.
- 20:53Ty Brunette
- 20:54is a faithful
- 20:55brother.
- 20:56He is in
- 20:57full agreement
- 20:58with the
- 20:58church on
- 20:59primary doctrine.
- 21:01He has been
- 21:01serving us
- 21:02well, although
- 21:02briefly, but
- 21:03well as an
- 21:05elder here.
- 21:06But he has
- 21:06come to find
- 21:07himself disagreeing
- 21:08with us on
- 21:09the secondary
- 21:10doctrine of
- 21:12baptism.
- 21:13Now he
- 21:13didn't go
- 21:14looking for a
- 21:15different conviction
- 21:16on it.
- 21:17He stumbled
- 21:18across it in
- 21:19his study and
- 21:20has become
- 21:21convinced of
- 21:22a different
- 21:22position.
- 21:24Now we,
- 21:26as a church
- 21:26in total, I
- 21:27mean, are
- 21:28credo-baptists
- 21:29which means that
- 21:30we believe that
- 21:30the only proper
- 21:31recipients of
- 21:32baptism are
- 21:34individuals who
- 21:35have made
- 21:36credible
- 21:36professions of
- 21:37faith in
- 21:38Christ.
- 21:39It's the
- 21:39careful work
- 21:40that we do
- 21:40as Baptists.
- 21:41We want to
- 21:41be able to,
- 21:42with the
- 21:43fallible
- 21:43confidence that
- 21:44we have, say
- 21:45yes, we
- 21:46believe that
- 21:47this person
- 21:47is in fact
- 21:48in the
- 21:49faith.
- 21:49They make
- 21:50a profession
- 21:50of that
- 21:51faith in
- 21:51being baptized.
- 21:52We affirm
- 21:53that in
- 21:54baptizing them.
- 21:55This is the
- 21:56credo-baptist
- 21:57position.
- 21:58And I want to
- 21:59be clear, it's
- 21:59done poorly
- 22:00in a lot of
- 22:00places, but we
- 22:01try to do it
- 22:01well in the
- 22:02life of our
- 22:03church.
- 22:05Ty has come
- 22:06to
- 22:06paedo-baptist
- 22:08convictions.
- 22:09Before I say
- 22:10anything further
- 22:10about paedo-baptism,
- 22:11I just want to
- 22:11say there's a
- 22:12lot of
- 22:12paedo-baptists
- 22:13that are
- 22:13terrible and
- 22:14heretical.
- 22:16Ty is not
- 22:16affiliating with
- 22:17any of that.
- 22:18So if
- 22:19paedo-baptist,
- 22:20infant-baptist
- 22:21pops into your
- 22:21head and you
- 22:22think immediately
- 22:23of baptismal
- 22:25regeneration,
- 22:26that's not
- 22:27Ty.
- 22:27If you think of
- 22:28the Catholics,
- 22:29that's not
- 22:30Ty.
- 22:30This is good,
- 22:31faithful,
- 22:32gospel-believing
- 22:33paedo-baptism
- 22:35that Ty is
- 22:35holding.
- 22:37And paedo-baptism
- 22:37means that he,
- 22:39along with many
- 22:39others,
- 22:40believe that
- 22:41baptism should
- 22:41be applied to
- 22:42individuals who
- 22:43have made
- 22:44credible professions
- 22:44of faith in
- 22:45Christ and
- 22:46also to their
- 22:48children.
- 22:49So you may
- 22:49know this as
- 22:51infant baptism.
- 22:52In our circle,
- 22:54most commonly,
- 22:55we see that
- 22:55Presbyterians
- 22:56practice this
- 22:58form of
- 22:59baptism.
- 22:59We have
- 23:01worked together
- 23:02over the past
- 23:03months to
- 23:03sort this
- 23:04disagreement
- 23:05through.
- 23:06We're not
- 23:07going to get
- 23:07into the weeds
- 23:07this morning
- 23:08of the
- 23:08difference in
- 23:09the views.
- 23:11I can tell
- 23:11you that it
- 23:12sharpened me.
- 23:13I hope that
- 23:14it served
- 23:14Ty through
- 23:15the process.
- 23:17This is the
- 23:18first time I've
- 23:18had to really
- 23:19engage the
- 23:20topic with a
- 23:21person who I
- 23:22love dearly
- 23:23sitting across
- 23:23from me,
- 23:25getting frustrated
- 23:26with them and
- 23:27then having to
- 23:27apologize immediately
- 23:28for being
- 23:28frustrated.
- 23:29with them.
- 23:31I told him in
- 23:31the process,
- 23:32I'm becoming
- 23:32more a Baptist
- 23:33because of this
- 23:34conversation.
- 23:35And he said,
- 23:36and you'll
- 23:37appreciate,
- 23:38amen.
- 23:38He said,
- 23:39good,
- 23:39good.
- 23:41I can assure
- 23:42you that Ty
- 23:42cares to honor
- 23:43the Lord as
- 23:44he seeks to
- 23:45be faithful to
- 23:46the Bible and
- 23:47his conscience
- 23:48concerning it.
- 23:50This is a
- 23:51Bible conviction
- 23:52that he's come
- 23:54to.
- 23:55I am so proud
- 23:57of the way that
- 23:57he has handled
- 23:58himself as he
- 23:59has disagreed.
- 24:00He's just at
- 24:01every step
- 24:02been so careful,
- 24:03so generous
- 24:05and kind.
- 24:06He hasn't
- 24:07picked it up as
- 24:07an agenda and
- 24:08gone raging
- 24:09around the
- 24:09church trying to
- 24:10convince other
- 24:11people of it.
- 24:12He started with
- 24:13me.
- 24:13He spoke with
- 24:14our elders.
- 24:15He's just done
- 24:16a great job of
- 24:17explaining where
- 24:19he is on his
- 24:21position.
- 24:23There is,
- 24:24by God's
- 24:24great grace,
- 24:26harmony amongst
- 24:27your church's
- 24:28leadership.
- 24:29I'm glad for
- 24:30that.
- 24:30I'm so thankful
- 24:31that God has
- 24:32worked in us.
- 24:34I think,
- 24:34thinking clearly,
- 24:36how should we
- 24:36feel about this?
- 24:37How should we
- 24:37act according
- 24:39to it?
- 24:40And I hope we'll
- 24:41set an example
- 24:42for you all.
- 24:44That said,
- 24:45Ty has stepped
- 24:46down from his
- 24:46role as an
- 24:47elder.
- 24:48Ty is
- 24:49confessional as
- 24:50we are.
- 24:51He believes that
- 24:51it's important for
- 24:52us to say what we
- 24:53believe the Bible
- 24:54says, and he
- 24:56sees that we
- 24:57ought to be in
- 24:58agreement on this
- 24:59particular matter.
- 25:00It's secondary.
- 25:01It's not tertiary.
- 25:02It's a secondary
- 25:03matter.
- 25:04So he has stepped
- 25:05down as an elder.
- 25:07He's going to be
- 25:07seeking what the
- 25:08Lord has for him
- 25:09next.
- 25:11He's going to
- 25:11remain employed
- 25:12with us as a
- 25:13pastoral assistant
- 25:14through the end
- 25:15of July, and he's
- 25:16looking for what
- 25:17he'll do after
- 25:19that.
- 25:19And so, while
- 25:20rightly we'll be
- 25:22sad to say
- 25:23goodbye to him,
- 25:23and Cheyenne
- 25:25and to their
- 25:25children, we
- 25:26don't have to be
- 25:26sad all at once.
- 25:28So, this is not
- 25:28your last day to
- 25:30see the brunettes.
- 25:32We can say
- 25:33goodbye over a
- 25:34bit of time, and
- 25:35we'll be sure to
- 25:36do so well before
- 25:37they part from
- 25:38us.
- 25:40So, see in this
- 25:41example how
- 25:43theological
- 25:44triage serves
- 25:46us, right?
- 25:48Ty is not
- 25:48apostate, right?
- 25:49Ty is not a
- 25:50Christian just
- 25:50because he
- 25:51doesn't agree
- 25:51with us on
- 25:52baptism.
- 25:53He's a
- 25:54Christian brother,
- 25:55and we need
- 25:56to have no
- 25:56doubt of
- 25:57this.
- 25:59Ty does, though,
- 26:00find himself
- 26:00disagreeing in a
- 26:01matter that
- 26:02causes him and
- 26:02his family to
- 26:03need to seek
- 26:04fellowship elsewhere
- 26:05where their
- 26:06conscience can be
- 26:07clear, where they
- 26:08can practice the
- 26:09way they believe
- 26:10God would have
- 26:11them practice,
- 26:13right?
- 26:13We may think it
- 26:14irregular for them
- 26:15to do that, but
- 26:16they don't, and
- 26:17so that's okay that
- 26:18they would find
- 26:19themselves in a
- 26:21Presbyterian
- 26:21context.
- 26:23It is okay for
- 26:25us not to see
- 26:25eye to eye on
- 26:26this matter and
- 26:27therefore to
- 26:29maintain unity.
- 26:31So, thinking
- 26:31about this, right,
- 26:32where do we
- 26:33place this?
- 26:34And here we
- 26:35find it's
- 26:35actionable.
- 26:37Most of our
- 26:37disagreements
- 26:38within a church
- 26:39are in that
- 26:40tertiary category
- 26:41and require no
- 26:42action at all.
- 26:45Certainly, if we
- 26:45have primary
- 26:46disagreements,
- 26:47then we're
- 26:48going to go to
- 26:48the mattresses
- 26:49over that,
- 26:50right?
- 26:52So, let me
- 26:52conclude with
- 26:53some encouragements
- 26:55for you.
- 26:57I just want to
- 26:57encourage you,
- 26:58love on Ty and
- 26:59Cheyenne to the
- 27:00max over these
- 27:02next three months.
- 27:03It's really
- 27:04tempting, I find
- 27:05this in myself,
- 27:06to withdraw from
- 27:07people we will
- 27:07say farewell to.
- 27:10I love their
- 27:11children and it's
- 27:12tempting to not
- 27:13love their kids so
- 27:13much, right?
- 27:14To not get all
- 27:15the hugs that I
- 27:16possibly can from
- 27:17them.
- 27:19But let's not do
- 27:19this, right?
- 27:20Let's push back
- 27:21against that
- 27:22temptation for
- 27:23their good and
- 27:24for ours, right?
- 27:25Let's wring every
- 27:26bit of wonderful
- 27:28we can out of it
- 27:30over the next
- 27:30three months.
- 27:32Additionally, let's
- 27:34join in praying for
- 27:35wisdom for the
- 27:36brunettes as they
- 27:36discern their next
- 27:37steps.
- 27:38There's not a
- 27:38clear and obvious
- 27:39place at this
- 27:41moment for them
- 27:41and so they need
- 27:42to be careful.
- 27:44We want to help
- 27:44them in that
- 27:45process to send
- 27:46them well to
- 27:48wherever it is the
- 27:48Lord may be
- 27:49calling them to
- 27:50go.
- 27:51So that's the
- 27:51first encouragement
- 27:52to you.
- 27:54Secondly, wrestle
- 27:56with varied views
- 27:58on baptism.
- 28:00I want you to
- 28:00hear me say that.
- 28:01I'm a committed
- 28:02credo-baptist,
- 28:03right?
- 28:03We're not
- 28:04Baptists because
- 28:05of denominational
- 28:06affiliation because
- 28:07it's the kind of
- 28:08church I grew up
- 28:09in.
- 28:09I'm Baptist by
- 28:10conviction.
- 28:11As a church,
- 28:12it's my
- 28:13understanding that
- 28:13we're Baptist by
- 28:14conviction, but I
- 28:15want to encourage
- 28:16you to wrestle
- 28:17with it.
- 28:18You need to
- 28:19know what you
- 28:20believe on the
- 28:21matter.
- 28:22Just don't go
- 28:23along to get
- 28:23along, but
- 28:24understand the
- 28:25doctrines.
- 28:26It's important to
- 28:27think about these
- 28:28things.
- 28:29Now to help you
- 28:30with this, I'm
- 28:30going to hold a
- 28:31class that each
- 28:31you see them, how
- 28:32they're arrived at
- 28:33from the scripture.
- 28:35So we would have
- 28:37done it sooner than
- 28:37that, but I didn't
- 28:38want to do it on
- 28:38Mother's Day and I
- 28:40wasn't ready to do it
- 28:40today.
- 28:41So it's going to
- 28:41be on May 19th.
- 28:44So join me if you
- 28:45will.
- 28:46I really encourage
- 28:47that.
- 28:47At least somebody
- 28:47from your family
- 28:48with your Bible
- 28:49open and we'll
- 28:50consider it together.
- 28:52I've got all kinds
- 28:54of plans for a
- 28:54whiteboard.
- 28:55Just be ready for
- 28:56it.
- 28:57I also want to
- 28:58encourage you not
- 28:59to bombard Ty.
- 29:01I know that he is
- 29:02willing to explain
- 29:03his position, but
- 29:05consider that this
- 29:05may not be the best
- 29:07way for him to
- 29:07spend his last three
- 29:08months with us,
- 29:09taking meeting
- 29:10after meeting
- 29:10after meeting to
- 29:11sit down and
- 29:12explain paedo
- 29:13baptism to you.
- 29:14Maybe hang on.
- 29:15We'll have a class
- 29:16and if you have
- 29:17follow-up questions,
- 29:18you're welcome to
- 29:18probably ask him,
- 29:20not me.
- 29:20I'm going to give
- 29:21you all the
- 29:21information I know
- 29:22about it at that
- 29:23class.
- 29:24But yeah, maybe
- 29:25just don't bombard
- 29:25him with questions.
- 29:27Just love on him a
- 29:28bunch and Cheyenne
- 29:29as well.
- 29:31Third encouragement,
- 29:33think long and
- 29:34deep about Christian
- 29:35unity.
- 29:37Seeing this as an
- 29:38example for us to
- 29:39grow as individuals
- 29:40and to grow as a
- 29:41church.
- 29:42How can you be
- 29:44agreeable while
- 29:46disagreeing?
- 29:47How can we
- 29:48collectively be
- 29:49agreeable while
- 29:50disagreeing?
- 29:52Make theological
- 29:53triage a part of
- 29:55your regular
- 29:56thinking process.
- 29:57Whether you ever
- 29:58call it theological
- 29:59triage or not,
- 30:00I don't care.
- 30:01But that you're
- 30:02thinking in your
- 30:02mind, how important
- 30:04is this particular
- 30:06doctrine?
- 30:07doctrine?
- 30:08What doctrines are
- 30:09of highest order?
- 30:12What truths would
- 30:13you be willing to
- 30:14die for?
- 30:14And are they in
- 30:15fact worth dying
- 30:16for?
- 30:17And do you spend
- 30:17the majority of
- 30:18your time thinking
- 30:20about trying to
- 30:21sort out all the
- 30:22little minutiae
- 30:22particulars, right?
- 30:24Bouncing around on
- 30:26YouTube to see what
- 30:27so-and-so says about
- 30:28such and such a thing.
- 30:31Be sure that you're
- 30:32standing on the
- 30:33right hill at the
- 30:35end.
- 30:37Let me ask, have
- 30:38you caused disunity
- 30:39over beliefs that
- 30:41should not have
- 30:42caused disunity?
- 30:44Whether in this
- 30:45church or perhaps
- 30:46another, perhaps one
- 30:47that you have left
- 30:48behind and maybe
- 30:50you need to call
- 30:51somebody up and
- 30:52issue an apology
- 30:53and look for
- 30:54reconciliation because
- 30:56you were ugly about
- 30:57a thing that did not
- 30:58require it.
- 30:59So those are some
- 31:02encouragements to
- 31:02you.
- 31:03I pray that our
- 31:04church will walk
- 31:05this out well
- 31:06because it matters.
- 31:08The fact that we
- 31:09are in harmony with
- 31:10one another, even
- 31:11as we disagree,
- 31:13exalts the Lord
- 31:15Jesus Christ.
- 31:17Let's pray.