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Nicolle Wallace · On with Mario Interviews

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  Speaker 1: On with Maria a little bits. Mario Lopez join me
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  Speaker 1: right now on zoom. Former White House Communications director in
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  Speaker 1: current MSNBC anchor Nicole Wallace. How are you, Nicole? Hi there, I.
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  Speaker 2: Can see you without my glasses. I'm gonna take them off.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice, nice, I took I took mine off, so uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're won the same right there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I need glasses years old.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, no, I get it, I need I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: able to read anything right now. Congrats, you're getting into
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  Speaker 1: the podcast game. I'm yeah. Your new show the Best People.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking with people outside of the political world that
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  Speaker 1: inspire you.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's fun. So people like Doc.
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  Speaker 2: Rivers, Jason Bateman, Sarah Juska, Parker Daniels, Jimmy jam It's
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  Speaker 2: really fun.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I liked it. Collected diverse group right there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: these people obviously are not politicians, But are you talking
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  Speaker 1: politics with your guests?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I would have been happy to talk
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  Speaker 2: about anything of these people. I think the theme that
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  Speaker 2: runs through all of them is I am a fan
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  Speaker 2: of all these folks. But the most of the conversations,
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  Speaker 2: at least at one point, turned to politics like they
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  Speaker 2: do in normal life. But then we jump right back
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  Speaker 2: to other things. And I think what I realized at
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  Speaker 2: the end of it is that maybe what we do
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  Speaker 2: is more artificial. Right. We just talked politics for an
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  Speaker 2: hour or two, and in people's lives it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've got one kid with tennis elbow and another one
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  Speaker 2: who I have to send a timer to get them
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  Speaker 2: off their iPad. What do you think about this issue?
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  Speaker 2: And so I think the podcast is maybe more reflective
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  Speaker 2: of where politics falls in our normal lives. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I got the timer with the iPad too.
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  Speaker 2: Does it work mine? Like out out program? The time limit? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: No, he puts it in himself and then he knows
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  Speaker 1: that when the times of the times up. What's the
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  Speaker 1: most interesting thing you've learned from this process? And from the.
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  Speaker 2: Guests asking me to choose among among my children? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy jam is someone that I met when I had
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  Speaker 2: tried or hope to make a Weird of the World
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  Speaker 2: for Ukraine, and we didn't end up creating an original song,
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  Speaker 2: but I got to meet him and I was so
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  Speaker 2: nervous just to talk to him on the phone. And
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  Speaker 2: this was a couple of years ago now, So when
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  Speaker 2: I got of doing a podcast. I thought of doing
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  Speaker 2: something that Jimmy jam might say yes too. So when
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  Speaker 2: I got to interview him for the podcast, I just
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  Speaker 2: loved all of his stories about working with Janet Jackson
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  Speaker 2: and about the creative process of making music, and he
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  Speaker 2: talked about he knew Michael Jackson and worked with Michael
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  Speaker 2: Jackson on a song, and I think some of his
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  Speaker 2: stories really were the most amazing to hear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a huge fan of his. That's very cool,
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  Speaker 1: so cool, And of course you still host your daily
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  Speaker 1: show on MSNBC as well, Deadline White House.
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  Speaker 2: You enjoying that.
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  Speaker 1: How it must be a lot of fun these days.
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  Speaker 2: It's never boring, and it's like, you know, at this point,
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  Speaker 2: we just sit there and wonder and hold up a
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  Speaker 2: mirror to what has happened that day. I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people know how they feel about the parties,
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  Speaker 2: and so there's enough happening that we just try to
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  Speaker 2: stay on the news, and a lot of it is
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  Speaker 2: not normal. I mean, I worked for Republicans of other
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  Speaker 2: Democrats and a lot of what were happening. What's happening
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  Speaker 2: is almost beyond the old sites and sort of into
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  Speaker 2: a new arena. So it's really cool, it's really fun.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of regulars who keep it real,
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  Speaker 2: and the show's a real treat you.
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  Speaker 1: I menagined you worked for Republicans. I remember we worked
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  Speaker 1: with the George W. Bush administration, And for people who
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  Speaker 1: may not be familiar, what exactly does the White House
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  Speaker 1: Communications director do?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I think some of these jobs are different now, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like I have that job before Twitter, if you can
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  Speaker 2: even imagine that, you know. And I think it's probably
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  Speaker 2: advantageous that we have politicians now that do some of
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  Speaker 2: their own communicating. But I'm you know, was from an
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  Speaker 2: era where we a lot of it was planned and organized,
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  Speaker 2: and we planned interviews with journalists and we plan speeches.
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  Speaker 2: And it feels like a relic to even describe what
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  Speaker 2: I did now because there's a lot more direct access
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  Speaker 2: to all politicians. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, absolutely get entertaining at times. You're also a mom
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  Speaker 1: of two. Your youngest is like a year and a half, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a baby, baby a baby Easyvidually, I
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  Speaker 2: just was ordering a sushi for my son, he's thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: and it's really fun. I'm a modern family and we
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  Speaker 2: have a really good time. Mysembly's travel baseball so my
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  Speaker 2: daughter spends every Sunday at a doubleheader for thirteen year
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  Speaker 2: old travel Baseball, and she thinks that's all babies do.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, we won't.
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  Speaker 1: Tell her that's a sophisticated palette at thirteen down in sushi.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know what sushi was at thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: New York City, kid, Right, you're in New Yorker, exactly exactly,
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  Speaker 2: he asked me a couple weeks ago. He said, you know, mom,
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  Speaker 2: all the great restaurants are down to out. I kind
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  Speaker 2: of look at Yeah, he's a.
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  Speaker 1: Bit of a food that's very cool, all right, he's
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  Speaker 1: got good taste. Really nice catching up with you, and
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  Speaker 1: congrats on the podcast. Everyone be sure to check it out.
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  Speaker 1: It's called The Best of People, which is available to
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  Speaker 1: stream everywhere where you get your pods. Nicole, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: checking in.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's really nice to see you.
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  Speaker 1: You too.
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  Speaker 2: Take care of
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  Speaker 1: With Mario Lopez