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How Hollywood Mirrors Elite Ceremonies | Jay Weidner · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: There seems to be a lot of interest in Eyes
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Speaker 1: White Shot now that the Jeffrey Epstein files have been released,
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Speaker 1: and people are revisiting Eyes White Shot to try and
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Speaker 1: decode it, sort of like what people have done for
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Speaker 1: decades with the Shining and what we have done with
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Speaker 1: the Shining.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen anything recently?
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Speaker 3: So what happened is is that I went to France
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Speaker 3: to research my book, my first book in nineteen ninety nine,
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Speaker 3: and I spent all of February and March in France,
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Speaker 3: and I did not know that Stanley Kubrick had died
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Speaker 3: on March seventh, because I didn't speak French. And I
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Speaker 3: got home and I found out that he died. Of course,
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Speaker 3: I was broken hearted because he was my hero. And
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Speaker 3: I wrote an article, a long essay in April of
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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine called the Alchemical Kubrick, in which I
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Speaker 3: said that Kubrick was an esoteric guy, that two thousand
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Speaker 3: and one was really about alchemy, and called millions of
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Speaker 3: people read It's the biggest thing I've ever done it
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Speaker 3: and is still to this day I've ever done in
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Speaker 3: my life. And I got all this criticism from April
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Speaker 3: until July nineteen ninety nine that I was insane, that
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Speaker 3: Kubrick was not interested in any of this stuff, and
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Speaker 3: you're wrong, and you know, nice try and all that.
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Speaker 3: And then Eyes White Shot came out and I was
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Speaker 3: living up high up.
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Speaker 4: In the mountains.
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Speaker 3: I didn't have a movie theater near me, and I
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Speaker 3: kept getting these calls, have you seen Ice White Shot?
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Speaker 4: Have you seen I White Shot?
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Speaker 3: You go, no, what's going on with it?
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Speaker 4: And he goes, you're right, You're right.
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Speaker 3: He's totally into it, right, And so I was like, okay,
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Speaker 3: and I went and saw the movie and I liked
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Speaker 3: it a lot, but it didn't go over as a hit.
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Speaker 3: It was probably one of the Kubrick's were disappointing films
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Speaker 3: as far as people understanding what was going on. So
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Speaker 3: I examined it like I did The Shining in two
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Speaker 3: thousand and one and all these films of Kubric, and
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Speaker 3: I saw something that well. First off, I got a
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Speaker 3: phone call from someone who had read my alchemical Cubric
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Speaker 3: article and he wanted me to talk to him, and he.
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Speaker 4: Said he was Cubric's assistant.
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Speaker 3: So he called me up and we talked about three
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Speaker 3: hours on the phone, and he told me the Eyes
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Speaker 3: by shot wasn't anything like the movie he worked on.
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Speaker 3: He said, there's nothing like it, right, He said, I
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Speaker 3: don't understand, and I said, well, you know, well it's different.
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Speaker 4: He says everything.
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Speaker 3: He said, this isn't even the I don't even understand it.
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Speaker 4: And so I was like, okay, that's fird.
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Speaker 3: And since then it's come out that the cameraman has
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Speaker 3: also said that that wasn't the film he shot.
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Speaker 1: And you're talking about the theatrical cut, yep, not the
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Speaker 1: cut that everybody seen.
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Speaker 4: Yeahfore, yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: There was a cut that was supposedly four hours, with
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Speaker 3: lots of documentary footage in it, and there was an
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Speaker 3: expos of child sex trafficking apparently, and the studio saw it,
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Speaker 3: freaked out, cut it all up and made a big
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Speaker 3: mess out of it.
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Speaker 4: This is what I say.
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Speaker 3: And there's continuity errors in the movie and things that
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Speaker 3: kubric would never do ever, And so I found that
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Speaker 3: really frustrating and irritating, but I took it all into context.
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Speaker 3: I said, Okay, so you're Stanley Kubrick and you got
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Speaker 3: this movie, and there you got some stuff in there
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Speaker 3: that you want to say, but you know it could
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Speaker 3: get cut. So he left in little subtle things that
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Speaker 3: got past everybody and still in the movie today. And
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Speaker 3: those things are odd, very odd.
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Speaker 4: For instance, when.
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Speaker 3: Tom Cruise is at the party at the beginning, and
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Speaker 3: Tom Cruise goes up up these stairs in the mansion
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Speaker 3: to go help a girl who has been overdosed on drugs.
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Speaker 3: As he goes up the stairs, you see these two
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Speaker 3: guys to the right of the stairs. One is short
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Speaker 3: and bald, the other one is tall and bald, and
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Speaker 3: they're very distinctive looking.
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Speaker 4: I call him asle.
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Speaker 3: The tall guy's eye and the other guy's oh right,
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Speaker 3: And they have no lines in the whole movie. And
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Speaker 3: if you watch, they're guarding the stairwell from anybody going upstairs.
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Speaker 3: Of course you wanted to do that if he was
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Speaker 3: your house and you got a bunch of people there
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Speaker 3: in a party, will not make sure nobody goes up
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Speaker 3: and robs you or whatever, right, So it's totally normal.
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Speaker 3: But that's what they're doing. They're guarding the stairwell, and
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Speaker 3: so that's the first time you see these two guys.
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Speaker 3: Then when Tom gets to the party, the orgy part
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Speaker 3: of the scene, he's walking up the steps to get
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Speaker 3: into the door and there they are again. Both guys
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Speaker 3: are there again and they're what they're doing. They they're
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Speaker 3: overseeing who's ever getting into this party, making sure that
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Speaker 3: there's it all. And then Tom goes to the party
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Speaker 3: and he see he gets caught and he gets they
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Speaker 3: tell him that he has to leave, and then he
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Speaker 3: gets really interested in what's going on. He starts searching
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Speaker 3: around the whole next day and then goes up to
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Speaker 3: the mansion again and a guy, the short guy with
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Speaker 3: the bald head, he comes out. He gives him a
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Speaker 3: note and the note says stay away, don't even look
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Speaker 3: at anything. And then Tom starts walking around but it's
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Speaker 3: supposed to be in New York City but isn't and
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Speaker 3: he's followed by the tall guy.
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Speaker 4: So I is final following him.
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Speaker 3: Oh gave him the warning, Now I is following him.
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Speaker 3: And then at the very end of the movie, Nicole
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Speaker 3: Kidman and Tom go to apparently like Macy's or something
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Speaker 3: at Christmas time and they got their daughter a prefaces
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Speaker 3: first as Tom begins to realize that he's dealing with
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Speaker 3: this big cult right, he comes home and Nicole is
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Speaker 3: teaching their daughter math.
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Speaker 4: At the table at the kitchen table and.
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Speaker 3: Tom gets a beer and he starts drinking, and he
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Speaker 3: looks at her and she looks at him. And then
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Speaker 3: Tom watches Nicole teaching his daughter math, and he recalls
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Speaker 3: her dream that she had after he got back from
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Speaker 3: the orgy, in which she said that she was having
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Speaker 3: sex with a whole bunch of men. Right, And so
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Speaker 3: he's overlaying the daughter and Nicole with this over sound
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Speaker 3: overdub of her being at the orgy, because I believe
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Speaker 3: she actually was at the orgy. So now we've associated Nicole,
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Speaker 3: the daughter, and the orgy in this one little clip.
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Speaker 4: Okay, So at the.
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Speaker 3: End of the movie, there at the Macy's and with
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Speaker 3: the daughter Christmas shopping, and the first thing that happens
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Speaker 3: is first thing you notice is that they're both really concerned,
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Speaker 3: especially Nicole, about their daughter. Don't go over there, watch out,
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Speaker 3: you know, very concerned. So the first thing that happens
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Speaker 3: is the daughter walks past a baby carriage. It's a
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Speaker 3: black baby carriage, and it's the exact baby carriage that
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Speaker 3: is in the poster for Rosemary's Baby Polanski, who was
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Speaker 3: one of his good friends. Okay, so that's the first
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Speaker 3: thing you see is the Devil's baby carriage. Right then
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Speaker 3: the next thing you see is the daughter walking through
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Speaker 3: all these teddy bears that are like menacingly looking at her,
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Speaker 3: surrounding her. We know that teddy bears are the symbol
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Speaker 3: for pedophilia, right, and you and again Nicole's like, watch
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Speaker 3: how they're don't go over there, be careful, and they're
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Speaker 3: all concerned. And then Tom and her. Tom and Nicole
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Speaker 3: have the daughter in front of her and they look
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Speaker 3: down the aisle and there's those two guys, the same
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Speaker 3: two guys that are been the whole movie.
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Speaker 4: They're standing there.
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Speaker 3: Like they're shopping or something, and Tom gently pushes the
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Speaker 3: girl on the shoulder towards them. She looks back at
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Speaker 3: Tom like do I have to do this, dad? And
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Speaker 3: it pushes and she walks towards the two guys. And
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Speaker 3: then the next five minutes of the movie is a
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Speaker 3: discussion about reality and dreams between Tom and Nicole. Right
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Speaker 3: with no more concern about the daughter, not any kind
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Speaker 3: of concern.
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Speaker 4: They don't bring her up.
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Speaker 3: She's now been five minutes wandering around in the store
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Speaker 3: with all these strangers. They don't care about her at all.
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Speaker 3: And then at the very end of the conversation, which
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Speaker 3: is an interesting conversation about reality. Nicole says, well, there's
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Speaker 3: only one thing that we can do. There's only one
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Speaker 3: thing left that we can do, and Tom says, well,
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Speaker 3: what's that?
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Speaker 4: And she drops the F bomb.
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Speaker 3: And the only movie that ever has the last line
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Speaker 3: of the word is.
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Speaker 4: The F bom. It's so strange, it is strange.
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Speaker 3: And so you say, well, why is that the only
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Speaker 3: thing left for them to do. Well, it's because you
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Speaker 3: just gave your daughter away to the cult and you
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Speaker 3: don't have any kids anymore. So the only way to
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Speaker 3: get a kid is to do the F bomb, right,
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Speaker 3: And so I believe what I believe. The Eyes White
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Speaker 3: Shut was of course re re edited, because.
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Speaker 4: What happened is.
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Speaker 3: The phone call that I got from Kubrick's assistant.
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Speaker 4: He told me that.
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Speaker 3: He was with Stanley when he showed Eyes White Shut
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Speaker 3: to the Warner Brothers executives, and he said that they
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Speaker 3: came in and Stanley was really nervous and he was
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Speaker 3: chain smoking. He had taken up smoking again, had quit
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Speaker 3: for like twenty years, and now he's smoking again.
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Speaker 4: And I always thought that was.
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Speaker 3: Why he died, by the way, but I don't believe
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Speaker 3: that now, but he said that he couldn't go in,
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Speaker 3: but he could stand outside in the lobby, and he
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Speaker 3: said they showed the movie two and a half hours,
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Speaker 3: three hours, four hours long.
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Speaker 4: Something really long. And a huge argument broke out in
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Speaker 4: the in the.
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Speaker 3: Screen in the theater, and he could hear Stanley yelling
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Speaker 3: that you are not going to cut my movie. I've
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Speaker 3: got a contract, says you can't cut my stuff right,
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Speaker 3: And the argument a big argument going back and forth,
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Speaker 3: and Stanley came out and he was just really angry.
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Speaker 3: And that was the last time that he said he
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Speaker 3: ever saw Stanley. Stanley died six days later, on March seventh,
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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine. And that's when I started talking publicly
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Speaker 3: about what this guy told me. I've been getting telling
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Speaker 3: everyone that Stanley had showed a different version of the film.
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Speaker 3: They didn't like it. They threatened him, and he said
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Speaker 3: he would not move, he would not budge, because that's Stanley.
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Speaker 3: He would not budge. Trust me.
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Speaker 4: And he died.
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Speaker 3: And when he died, his chauffeur wrote a whole book.
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Speaker 4: About his life with Stanley. It's a pretty good book.
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Speaker 3: And he says that he went to the funeral and
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Speaker 3: when he came home, there were men at Stanley's quarters
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Speaker 3: searching through grabbing slides film video files, piling it into
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Speaker 3: a van, and then they drove off, and they never
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Speaker 3: told him who they were. And I believe that Eyes
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Speaker 3: Wide Shut was an expose of the Epstein style cults,
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Speaker 3: and Fubrick was outraged by it. He'd had his own
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Speaker 3: daughter taken from him by Scientology, of which is a
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Speaker 3: big part of the movie Eyes Wide Shot. The handsome
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Speaker 3: naval officer is very much based on el Ron Hubbard
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Speaker 3: who started Scientology. She is based on the wife of
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Speaker 3: Jack Parsons, who el Ron Hubbard stole from Jack Parsons.
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Speaker 3: Tom Cruise even looks a lot like Jack Parsons. So
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Speaker 3: the whole origins of Scientology are in the backstory in
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Speaker 3: Eyes Wide Shut. His daughter was taken by the Scientologist.
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Speaker 3: She didn't even come home to her sister's funeral, which
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Speaker 3: is kind of unbelievable.
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Speaker 4: And she doesn't like me.
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Speaker 3: At all, by the way, And so Vivian Kubrick was
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Speaker 3: his favorite daughter and he was going to make her
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Speaker 3: a filmmaker. She made the Making of the Shining That
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Speaker 3: was her first foray into filmmaking, and it was clear
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Speaker 3: that he wanted her to be a filmmaker and he
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Speaker 3: was going to do everything he could, and then she
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Speaker 3: got stolen by the Scientologist.
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Speaker 4: I know she doesn't like to hear that, but that's
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Speaker 4: what I think.
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Speaker 3: I think that's what he thought, right, And so his
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Speaker 3: daughter got taken from him, all right, and it broke
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Speaker 3: his heart. He wrote a forty four page letter to her.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it was in the letter, but
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Speaker 3: people who have read it since absolutely heartbreaking, this letter.
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Speaker 3: And so I believe that Eyes Wide Shut was his
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Speaker 3: expose of these cults, with the sub story of an
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Speaker 3: expose of the Scientology cult, to which he was not
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Speaker 3: happy with, and because they'd taken his daughter. And the
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Speaker 3: plot of the movie, once you realized what Tom Cruise
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Speaker 3: and Nicole are doing at the end by pushing their
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Speaker 3: daughter towards these two guys, is that they had to
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Speaker 3: sacrifice their daughter to appease the cult. So when Cruise
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Speaker 3: gets exposed at the orgy, the woman that he saved
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Speaker 3: in Sydney Pollock's house from the overdose stands up and
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Speaker 3: offers herself as a sacrifice to save Tom because Tom
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Speaker 3: saved her, right, And I believe that now Tom had
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Speaker 3: to come up with his own sacrifice because the cult
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Speaker 3: had sacrificed themselves for him. Now he had to sacrifice
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Speaker 3: something dear to him to them. And I you know,
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Speaker 3: since the film has come out, a lot of Hollywood
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Speaker 3: hypes have come out and said that you have to
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Speaker 3: make a sacrifice to become a big star. Something in
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Speaker 3: your life, a parent or a child or somebody has
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Speaker 3: to be sacrificed. I always thought that's crazy, But then
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Speaker 3: as I started realizing what was in Eyes Wide Shut,
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Speaker 3: I realized that that's exactly right. That's what you have
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Speaker 3: to do. And if Tom had to sacrifice his daughter
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Speaker 3: in order to save hit the rest of his family
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Speaker 3: and himself, and I don't and see how you can
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Speaker 3: interpret it any other way. A lot of stuff's been
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Speaker 3: taken out that I'm sure you know. The whole part
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Speaker 3: about Sidney Pollack probably telling him that he has to
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Speaker 3: give a sacrifice, that got removed.
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Speaker 4: But Stanley was.
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Speaker 3: Smart enough to fly under the radar and use these
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Speaker 3: two guys who had no lines in the whole movie
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Speaker 3: as the villains. The villain in the movie is not
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Speaker 3: Sidney Pollack. He's definitely a villain, but the real villain
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Speaker 3: in the movie is I and Oh, These two guys
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Speaker 3: that are everywhere in the film, constantly threatening everybody, ultimately
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Speaker 3: taking Tom Cruises and Nicole Kidman's daughter away from them,
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Speaker 3: and they have no choice now but to have another kid.
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Speaker 1: What if that was Tom Cruise's initiation into the cult,
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Speaker 1: was the sacrificing of his child, because I rewatched it
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Speaker 1: recently and it's very interesting movie. They're trying to get
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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise's character throughout the entire movie initiated into the cult.
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Speaker 1: They're trying to blackmail him with Sidney Pollock's character having
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Speaker 1: him come up and he's a doctor, so then he
15:36
Speaker 1: went up there to check on the lady that was
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Speaker 1: that's a compromising position, right, And then they're trying to
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Speaker 1: get in with the hooker, and then they try to
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Speaker 1: get with the teenage girl. Right, So they're trying to
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Speaker 1: get blackmail on him already so then they can bring
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Speaker 1: him into the cult. Because it seems like Tom is
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Speaker 1: the only one that does not know about this cult.
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Speaker 2: Tom in this entire city.
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Speaker 3: Tom does not He's the only one does not know
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Speaker 3: that he's that there's a cult all around him, even
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Speaker 3: his wife.
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Speaker 2: Everyone's in on the person at the hotel.
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Speaker 3: That does the girl that the patient that he visits,
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Speaker 3: she's part of it. The and they're and they're constantly
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Speaker 3: tempting him. They're trying to get him to go. And
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Speaker 3: and if he knows, he never does, he never gets
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Speaker 3: the temptation.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't have any sex with the orgy.
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Speaker 3: I mean he could, I mean he could, but he doesn't.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't have sex with the hooker, he doesn't have
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Speaker 3: sex with the girl that tries to seduce him. So
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Speaker 3: it's like Tom is like the fool, and he's walking
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Speaker 3: around in a world surrounded by impersonators and he doesn't
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Speaker 3: know it until the very end.
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Speaker 4: Of the movie.
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Speaker 3: And that's why they have the discussion about reality and
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Speaker 3: dreams and everything, because Tom is asking Nicole. If you
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Speaker 3: watch the whole last part of He's asking Nicole for help,
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Speaker 3: tell me what's going on here?
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Speaker 4: What is reality? What is going on here?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 2: What do we do next?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 3: And and and it's Nicole all who's suddenly the wise
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Speaker 3: person who's telling him everything that's going on. And it's
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Speaker 3: like a complete switch at the very end, all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, Nicole is the wise person and Tom's the
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Speaker 3: fool of which he is. He's the fault of the movie.
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Speaker 3: And I'm really happy that Eyes Wide Shut is finally
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Speaker 3: getting people to watch it again, because first off, it's
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Speaker 3: a kubric film and secondly, it's brilliantly shot.
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Speaker 4: It's just brilliantly shot.
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Speaker 3: I think the acting is really good, like Sidney Pollock
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Speaker 3: is amazing. And no, it's a flawed film because the
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Speaker 3: studio cut it up. That's not Kubrick's fault, and so
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Speaker 3: we don't really know what Kubrick did. And Warner Brothers
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Speaker 3: refuses to release any of the footage that Kubrick originally
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Speaker 3: put in the film, so we'll never know, and they're
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Speaker 3: not going to release it.
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Speaker 4: I guarantee it.
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Speaker 3: I've been at that for what twenty five years now,
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Speaker 3: and they're not going to release it. So it's a
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Speaker 3: flawed masterpiece. It tells us more about this reality than
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Speaker 3: Kubrick's other films, I believe, And he really tried to
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Speaker 3: expose the pedophile cult that he knew was running in
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Speaker 3: the world.
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Speaker 1: Well that's the way that you would want to do it, right.
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Speaker 1: We hear about blackmail and putting people in compromising positions,
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Speaker 1: and then but then that gets into the thought, well,
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Speaker 1: what if Stanley Kubrick was a part of this in
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Speaker 1: some kind of way, because there's that rumor that he
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Speaker 1: had spliced footage into Eyes Wide Shut of real rituals,
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Speaker 1: of real sacrifices, of some real occult rituals. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's a whole thing of on set. Whenever they brought
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Speaker 1: into people for the ritual where the guy's having the
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Speaker 1: girls go to wherever, he brought in a bunch of
18:44
Speaker 1: people that nobody knew, but they acted like they already
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Speaker 1: knew what the ritual was.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not the first time that Cubic has
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Speaker 3: done that. But again, it really emphasizes that the extras
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Speaker 3: in Eyes White Shots are actually some of the most
19:01
Speaker 3: important people in the film, which is very unusual for
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Speaker 3: a film. Extras are just people that come in. You
19:06
Speaker 3: can pay them fifty bucks a day and they're just
19:08
Speaker 3: happy to be in the movie.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 3: But these extras are like real moving parts of the movie.
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Speaker 3: But he did it so under the table that you
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Speaker 3: don't notice it. You just don't notice it until somebody
19:23
Speaker 3: like me tells you. Then, oh wow, who are those guys?
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Speaker 3: Why are they constantly in this movie?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 3: And that's why. Because they're the henchman for the cult.
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Speaker 3: They make sure that the cult works right and make
19:36
Speaker 3: sure that nobody tells anybody anything. That everybody's in danger
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Speaker 3: if they know something, and that's their role. And they're
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Speaker 3: not even credited. The two guys aren't even credited in
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Speaker 3: the movie. There's I presume that they were getting fifty
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Speaker 3: bucks a day. You brings a big joke to him.
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Speaker 3: I got these two guys that are the bad guys.
19:57
Speaker 3: They don't even know it. Nobody's gonna tell him. You know,
20:01
Speaker 3: let's just stand at the end of that hallway and
20:03
Speaker 3: just stand there for a few minutes, you know, and
20:06
Speaker 3: push the girl out of him.
20:07
Speaker 4: And they don't know what's going on.
20:08
Speaker 3: Right Tom knows, I'm sure, and Nicole knows, but I
20:12
Speaker 3: don't think anybody else knows. And it's scary if you
20:17
Speaker 3: think about it. You have to take sacrifice your daughter,
20:22
Speaker 3: and what a terrifying thing that is.
20:25
Speaker 1: But it seems like the sacrificing of the daughter is
20:27
Speaker 1: the initiation into the cult. So if the movie kept
20:31
Speaker 1: going past that, how long is it like two hours
20:34
Speaker 1: and twenty minutes run time or whatever? If it continued
20:37
Speaker 1: on in the long cut that he's now a part.
20:41
Speaker 3: Of the court, because you're not going to sacrifice another kid,
20:44
Speaker 3: no way. So yes, he's now part of the cult.
20:47
Speaker 3: They achieved their goal. They got the famous doctor to
20:50
Speaker 3: join their cult, so he'll do what they want.
20:53
Speaker 4: And that's right. That's the plot of the movie.
20:55
Speaker 3: And by the way, that's probably exactly what happened to
20:57
Speaker 3: Stanley if you think about it. In Barry Lyndon, you
21:02
Speaker 3: got this guy who's just a normal guy and he
21:04
Speaker 3: works his way up into the upper echelons of society, right,
21:08
Speaker 3: but he pays the ultimate price at the end, right,
21:11
Speaker 3: because they get rid of him.
21:12
Speaker 4: Right.
21:12
Speaker 3: Well, that's Stanley. Stanley's This is an old guy from
21:15
Speaker 3: New York, doesn't have any rich parents or anything. He goes,
21:19
Speaker 3: he rises up the upper echelons of the filmmaking world,
21:22
Speaker 3: probably because of the moon landings, and he gets all
21:28
Speaker 3: the way, but he can't get all the way to
21:29
Speaker 3: the top. You only get, you know, so a certain
21:32
Speaker 3: way up to the top. He can't get all the
21:34
Speaker 3: way time, just like Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise will never
21:36
Speaker 3: get to the top, but he gets close to the top,
21:39
Speaker 3: just like Barry Lyndon. And that's Stanley Kubrick's life. He
21:42
Speaker 3: got close to the top, but he never got to
21:44
Speaker 3: the top because he's not qualified to be on the top.
21:47
Speaker 3: But he got close. He uses filmmaking prowess to rise
21:51
Speaker 3: up pretty high up into the society. But in the
21:55
Speaker 3: end it wasn't high enough. And you know then when
21:59
Speaker 3: he tried to expose the cult, the cult and then
22:03
Speaker 3: got rid of him.
22:05
Speaker 1: Well, it's also said that, you know, rumor and speculation
22:09
Speaker 1: that qubri had like a vault and he went to
22:13
Speaker 1: the costume designer to design all of the costumes for
22:17
Speaker 1: Eyes Wide Shot, and he gave a detailed drawing.
22:21
Speaker 3: To they all figured out they want it all figured
22:23
Speaker 3: he already knew and it's like he it's almost like
22:27
Speaker 3: he was.
22:27
Speaker 1: A part of what would be a real ritualistic cult
22:31
Speaker 1: that he's trying to expose in this movie, and he
22:35
Speaker 1: knew about it, and he was there, and he may
22:37
Speaker 1: have even filmed it. You may have even filmed some
22:42
Speaker 1: of those real ritualistic Yes, he may have cult stuff.
22:45
Speaker 1: And that's where he got the footage. And that's the
22:46
Speaker 1: footage that he was going to splice into the movie.
22:49
Speaker 3: Yep, if you were going to have you wanted to
22:52
Speaker 3: film your cult rituals back in the early seventies, and
22:58
Speaker 3: he didn't wanted to make sure that no one, the
23:01
Speaker 3: camera people and everybody wouldn't talk.
23:03
Speaker 4: Who is you hire?
23:04
Speaker 3: You'd hire the greatest director ever who filmed Barry Lyndon himself,
23:10
Speaker 3: who filmed a clockwork orange himself. Yeah, he had a cameraman.
23:15
Speaker 3: With the cameraman, both admitted that they didn't hardly do anything.
23:17
Speaker 3: The Kubic ran the entire cameras and everything. And then
23:21
Speaker 3: you go read the book of the Production Designer for
23:24
Speaker 3: two thousand and one, he says the same thing. So
23:26
Speaker 3: he arrived at work on the first day to start
23:29
Speaker 3: designing spaceships and all that, he said. Kubrick walked out
23:32
Speaker 3: and had all the drawings all done already.
23:34
Speaker 4: Here this is what it looks like.
23:35
Speaker 3: He said, what'd you hire me for? Somebody got to
23:38
Speaker 3: be in the credit should He told him, I gotta
23:40
Speaker 3: have somebody in the production designer credit. So clearly somebody
23:44
Speaker 3: had been designing all this stuff for like a year
23:46
Speaker 3: before the production designer ever came on.
23:49
Speaker 4: Same thing with.
23:49
Speaker 3: Eyes white chet. Somebody had designed the entire costume ball
23:54
Speaker 3: orgy sequence. The costume and everything long before the production
23:58
Speaker 3: designer ever showed up.
24:01
Speaker 2: So if he did indeed.
24:05
Speaker 1: How to take part in the filming of the moon Landing,
24:07
Speaker 1: he would then been sworn to secrecy. Anything that he
24:11
Speaker 1: does from there on would be under this secret black
24:15
Speaker 1: budget project that he could never speak about. Right, So
24:18
Speaker 1: then that would be the perfect person to come in
24:20
Speaker 1: and film these weird, strange rituals. That doesn't mean that
24:23
Speaker 1: Kubrick was actually a part of the ritual, but he
24:26
Speaker 1: could have been there filming the ritual, and that's how
24:29
Speaker 1: we knew. That's how we knew what this ritual was.
24:32
Speaker 1: That's how he knew how the actors were supposed to act,
24:35
Speaker 1: what they were supposed to do. And that's probably also
24:37
Speaker 1: why he brought in these extra people. These extra people
24:40
Speaker 1: could have been real people that were actually involved in
24:44
Speaker 1: some of these real rituals.
24:46
Speaker 3: Okay, So we know in nineteen seventy two, at the
24:49
Speaker 3: same house that he filmed the Orgy, the Rothschild House,
24:52
Speaker 3: there was this mass ball. We know, there's pictures of it,
24:55
Speaker 3: people massively just like Eyesight Chat.
25:00
Speaker 4: After the moon landings.
25:01
Speaker 3: So he was now big and a big guy in
25:04
Speaker 3: this cult thing, right because he was a great filmmaker,
25:07
Speaker 3: and he helped them achieve what they wanted to achieve.
25:10
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking that he was at that orgy at
25:14
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy two, and maybe he was filming it, and
25:17
Speaker 3: maybe the extras were also people that he met at
25:21
Speaker 3: these things that he brought on. Said you know what
25:24
Speaker 3: to do, you know how to act, you know what
25:26
Speaker 3: the mass have to look like. So I want you
25:28
Speaker 3: to come in. And I said, sure, we'll come in,
25:29
Speaker 3: We'll do it. And yeah, I think that's exactly what happened.
25:32
Speaker 3: I think that Kubrick got invited into the big circles,
25:36
Speaker 3: like I just said, but he never rose to the top.
25:40
Speaker 4: He was just a workman for them. He wasn't you know.
25:43
Speaker 3: Maybe he wanted to get all the way to the top,
25:47
Speaker 3: but you can't. You have to be in the bloodline.
25:49
Speaker 3: So he wasn't in the bloodline. So he was just
25:52
Speaker 3: a worker for them. And he did the moon landings,
25:55
Speaker 3: and yet he probably filmed the rituals, and.
25:59
Speaker 1: Well, I explains why these men would want to break
26:02
Speaker 1: into his house and get all of his footage and
26:04
Speaker 1: take all of his notes and all that, because they
26:07
Speaker 1: weren't there.
26:08
Speaker 3: You weren't sure what he had. They had to get everything,
26:11
Speaker 3: and so they.
26:12
Speaker 1: Probably knew that he had it because it was in
26:13
Speaker 1: the original cut of the film.
26:15
Speaker 3: Of course, you like, Hubri's not going to make a
26:17
Speaker 3: copy of everything he shoots, said, Yeah, it's not like
26:20
Speaker 3: he had his own film lab in his house. Yeah right,
26:23
Speaker 3: So it's like he had the ability to make a
26:26
Speaker 3: copy right there in his house without anybody even knowing. So, uh, yeah,
26:30
Speaker 3: that's what happened. And you know, it's sad, and that could.
26:34
Speaker 1: Have been the reason why he was killed because he
26:38
Speaker 1: had this footage and they knew that he had this
26:41
Speaker 1: footage from the four hour long cut to where he
26:45
Speaker 1: spliced in the real footage into eyes white shirt.
26:48
Speaker 2: Yep, that's when they found and then that's when he
26:49
Speaker 2: died six days later.
26:51
Speaker 3: And that would explain all the continuity airs because you're
26:54
Speaker 3: breaking away into something else and then you're coming back,
26:57
Speaker 3: and so the thing that was going on is not
26:59
Speaker 3: happening because there's a delay as you're showing other stop
27:03
Speaker 3: and you can come back and nobody will notice the continuitiators.
27:05
Speaker 3: But if you cut that out, then the continuityors become
27:08
Speaker 3: really egregious, right, and they are, and so yeah. I
27:13
Speaker 3: think that if it was Cubric's last out, this is
27:17
Speaker 3: it he was you know, this is it.
27:19
Speaker 4: He was done, and he wanted to go out with
27:21
Speaker 4: a bang.
27:21
Speaker 1: And I mean you can see within rewatching eyes wide
27:26
Speaker 1: shot where these real the real footage could be and
27:31
Speaker 1: would be. There's several scenes that are very odd, very
27:34
Speaker 1: eyes white shot. Yes, that is filmed differently, that is greeny,
27:39
Speaker 1: the frame rate is different. They mostly had to do
27:42
Speaker 1: with Nicole Kidman's character having sex with the Hungarian gun, right.
27:46
Speaker 2: And it's made to look like.
27:49
Speaker 1: It's real footage, but it's obviously not real footage, so
27:53
Speaker 1: that could have been replaced. And they kind of wanted
27:57
Speaker 1: to do it like Stanley did it, but do it
27:59
Speaker 1: with film footage, with real footage that is spliced in
28:02
Speaker 1: the stuff with Nicole Kimmen and the Hungarian guy, because
28:05
Speaker 1: there is no other way around.
28:06
Speaker 4: That's right.
28:07
Speaker 3: So what I believe happened is is that the Hungarian
28:11
Speaker 3: guy invites Nicole upstairs to look at the artwork, right.
28:15
Speaker 3: I believe that she went and that she began to
28:19
Speaker 3: be initiated into the cult. At that point, Tom gets
28:25
Speaker 3: the two beautiful models come after Tom. I believe he
28:28
Speaker 3: actually did go up there, and while she's being initiated,
28:31
Speaker 3: he's having sex a three way with the models, right.
28:35
Speaker 4: And then.
28:37
Speaker 3: And then when we get to the orgy, there's a
28:41
Speaker 3: coven has thirteen people in it, okay, twelve women, and
28:45
Speaker 3: then the man is the center. Okay, he's the warlock
28:49
Speaker 3: and they're the witches. And if you look at the
28:52
Speaker 3: circle in the orgy, there's only eleven women. That's because
28:56
Speaker 3: Nicole hasn't been brought on yet, because she's there, but
28:59
Speaker 3: she not fully initiated yet to join the circle, so
29:02
Speaker 3: they're missing a person in the coven. That person's replaced
29:06
Speaker 3: by Nicole. When Tom gets home, she has the dream,
29:10
Speaker 3: which isn't really a dream. She had her memory erased
29:13
Speaker 3: from the orgy, and so she thinks it's a dream.
29:16
Speaker 3: So she tells Tom that she had a dream that
29:18
Speaker 3: she was at the orgy and having sex with all
29:21
Speaker 3: these guys, right, and really upsets Tom and everything. And
29:25
Speaker 3: at the very end, when they get home, he sees
29:27
Speaker 3: the mask that's missing on the pillow. That's the cult
29:32
Speaker 3: telling him we're watching you, buddy forever.
29:37
Speaker 4: That's it.
29:38
Speaker 1: What if Qubic in real life was more like the
29:45
Speaker 1: piano player within as white Shot. Right, he's not really
29:50
Speaker 1: a part of the cult, but he's there.
29:54
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why his name.
29:56
Speaker 3: Is Nick Nightingale. What does a nightingale do? It's sing right, right,
30:01
Speaker 3: it sings, And so he's he's the guy that signed, right,
30:05
Speaker 3: he told Tom about it and so and then he'll
30:08
Speaker 3: paid the ultimate price. And that's why he called it.
30:12
Speaker 3: He called him Nick Nightingale because Nightingale sang at night.
30:15
Speaker 3: And yeah, so it's an incredibly deep film. I wish
30:21
Speaker 3: we could see the rest. Warner Brothers, would you please
30:24
Speaker 3: release the rest?
30:25
Speaker 4: I know you went never will.
30:27
Speaker 3: And it was the If it had gone the way
30:32
Speaker 3: that Kubic wanted, it would have been the perfect send out,
30:34
Speaker 3: the perfect ending to a career. Right. It's thirteen film made,
30:39
Speaker 3: thirteen films in forty six years. Those are all, by
30:42
Speaker 3: the way, free Masonic numbers. Forty six is a free
30:46
Speaker 3: Masonic number, thirteen is a free Masonic number. We know
30:50
Speaker 3: that each film that he made has all this numerological
30:56
Speaker 3: occult stuff in it, and Eyes White Shut lacks a
31:02
Speaker 3: lot of that because I think they removed it. Yeah,
31:05
Speaker 3: I think that's what got removed. And so you know,
31:08
Speaker 3: we're left with a rather confusing film until someone unwinds
31:13
Speaker 3: it for.
31:14
Speaker 4: You and then it becomes understandable.
31:17
Speaker 1: Yep, that's wild that he could have put himself into
31:20
Speaker 1: the movie like that and a fictional aspect as the
31:24
Speaker 1: piano player.
31:25
Speaker 3: But by the way, now that you bring that up.
31:29
Speaker 4: He's in Eyes White Shut.
31:31
Speaker 3: He's in the night Nick Nightingale playing the piano scene
31:34
Speaker 3: at the bar. He's sitting at the table with two
31:37
Speaker 3: beautiful women. Stanley hes, go watch it.
31:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the.
31:41
Speaker 3: Only movie he ever made where he's in the movie right,
31:44
Speaker 3: And he's in the scene where Nick Nightingale sings.
31:48
Speaker 4: Wild Yeah, Yeah, he's crazy.
31:53
Speaker 3: And you have to watch it real carefully because it's
31:54
Speaker 3: only in for maybe a quarter of a second. You
31:58
Speaker 3: can see him there with his glasses and his long hair,
32:00
Speaker 3: and there he is, got two beautiful girls sitting next
32:03
Speaker 3: to him.
32:04
Speaker 1: Well, I implore anybody and everybody to just go back
32:07
Speaker 1: and rewatch the movie and see what you find, because
32:11
Speaker 1: there's so much there's so much stuff in there, and.
32:14
Speaker 3: There is and you know, there's a scene they blacked
32:19
Speaker 3: out in the orgy scene. They phased out, fuzzed out
32:23
Speaker 3: some of the stuff going on.
32:25
Speaker 4: Warner brothers did whatever. I don't even know why they
32:27
Speaker 4: even did that.
32:28
Speaker 3: But there's if you watch the fuzz Outs, there's one
32:32
Speaker 3: fuzz Outs really interesting because it's Tom walks past a
32:37
Speaker 3: fuzzy person in the background and it's a child. It's
32:40
Speaker 3: a child. It's that the orgy. It's short but this tall.
32:44
Speaker 3: And so there's a child at the orgy. I don't
32:47
Speaker 3: know what it's doing there or what is happening there,
32:50
Speaker 3: but it's definitely there.
32:52
Speaker 1: Well, they have the pedophilia stuff with the costume designer
32:55
Speaker 1: that runs the shop.
32:56
Speaker 2: His daughter is you know.
32:59
Speaker 1: He's basically pimping down his daughter to these two Chinese
33:03
Speaker 1: or Japanese yepi.
33:06
Speaker 3: And how does he discover that his daughter's doing it.
33:08
Speaker 3: He looks down and he sees a pizza on the
33:11
Speaker 3: table and he goes, h what is this, right, and
33:14
Speaker 3: then he goes over and pulls his daughter out from
33:16
Speaker 3: having a three way with the two guys. Right, So
33:19
Speaker 3: he knows it's happening because there's pizza there. It's like okay, yeah,
33:28
Speaker 3: and again nineteen ninety nine, way before pizzagate, and he's
33:34
Speaker 3: I don't know, miss Stanley, he just knew a lot
33:38
Speaker 3: and too bad. It was a great film, could have
33:41
Speaker 3: been greater, Yep. Well, thanks Jane, appreciate you, Jane, yep.