Latest / Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison / Some Men Can Handle It. Some Can't.
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- 0:13Hello, this is a pre big call from and make it the Virginia Department
- 0:18of Corrections. Read Onion State Prison to accept this call. Crashed zero.
- 0:26This is Randa vomb I'm currently serving one two hundred and fourteen years in Walling
- 0:32Hurt State Prison in Big Stone Gap, Virginia for capitol murder. This is
- 0:36my podcast, Read on Your Randy. I hope you enjoy listening to me.
- 0:41For long term listeners to my podcast, you've heard me talk about,
- 0:45you know, how I've been in a couple of relationships since I've been inside
- 0:52prison, and that they didn't work out. One of them completely crashed and
- 0:59burned. That one was. That one was a pretty bad one. So
- 1:04I swore off relationships and just it's not going to happen. And a couple
- 1:10of years later, lo and behold, Nicole comes trotting along and I'm back
- 1:15in a damn relationship again and kind of loving it. So me, I'm
- 1:23a buddy. Cartoon was talking about relationships about a week ago while we was
- 1:29on lockdown, how different men deal with it, you know, but he's
- 1:33married, I'm well on my way to getting married. So we were just
- 1:38talking about normal relationship things. How guys in prison deal with it. And
- 1:44we got on the subject of talking about sex. You know, not a
- 1:48not a conversation I normally talk about with dudes in prison, but we just
- 1:52we started talking about it and it's a very interesting subject. So I decided
- 1:57to do a podcast on it. Because you've got a lot of different guys.
- 2:01Then most guys in prison actually have relationships with girls on the street,
- 2:06and you've got the few guys that you know, they've got five or six
- 2:09relationships that they're juggling. How do we deal with it? How do we
- 2:14deal with the fact that, I mean, let's face it, if a
- 2:17man is in prison and their woman is on the street, nine times out
- 2:23of ten, that woman is going to continue to have sex with somebody.
- 2:29How does the man deal with it? And it's as a tricky subject for
- 2:35me because I'm one of them dudes that I'm completely loyal, Like I'm absolutely
- 2:39loyal. Yes, I know I'm a virgin and all that stuff, but
- 2:45it doesn't matter to me, like I would never cheat, like I don't.
- 2:49I don't believe in it. To me, I believe that it's it
- 2:52makes a man weak, like it it's it's you have a weak mind if
- 2:55you cheat. And even one day, I remember me and my editor of
- 3:02producer excuse me, my field producer, Paulie. We was discussing this subject
- 3:07and I sit there and told him like, dude, if I ever found
- 3:10out that you cheated on your girlfriend, like I would end her friendship.
- 3:16And he was like, wow, why would you do that? It's like,
- 3:19I'm not cheating on you. I said, yeah, true. However,
- 3:22look at it from this perspective. This perspective, if you cheat on
- 3:28the woman you claim to love, you say you love her, you're in
- 3:31a relationship with her, and you betray her, what would you do to
- 3:38me. I'm not giving you a blowjob, I ain't having sex with you.
- 3:42I'm just your friend. If you're going to stab her in the bag,
- 3:45what the hell would you do to me. I'm just some dude in
- 3:47your life. And that's the way I look at it. You know,
- 3:51so I don't believe in cheating, Like I won't even be friends with someone
- 3:54that I know is cheating. Now. I'm not going to be that kind
- 3:58of dude just going to go run into his girlfriend and say, hey,
- 4:00yo, dude, it's cheating on you. I'm not a snitch. She's
- 4:03just gonna have to find out that information on her own. And I don't
- 4:09believe in getting cheated on obviously, hell nobody does. So it raises up
- 4:15an interesting question what happens if my girl Nicole is out there having sex with
- 4:24someone while I'm still in prison and I'm in a relationship with her. Do
- 4:30I leave her? Do I cut all ties with her? Or do I
- 4:34accept it and just ignore this fact until I get out of prison and then
- 4:41hey, this's going to stop. And that's a tough one for me.
- 4:46But the crazy thing is I've actually fallen in such love with Nicole that I
- 4:53don't believe she is. But if she did, I've fallen in such love
- 4:59with this one. Honestly, I would just ignore it, you know.
- 5:02And I was talking the cartoon about this and he was telling me, like,
- 5:05look, he says, I actually come from it from a different perspective.
- 5:09He says, I don't care if she's cheating. If Crystal cheats on
- 5:14me, it is what it is. Like, I don't give it them
- 5:15because I'm in prison. And if she was in prison and I was on
- 5:20the street, hey, I'd be getting some myself. That's just facts of
- 5:24life. It says, the only thing I think about and the only thing
- 5:29I want and require from Crystal is this. Don't do it in my house,
- 5:34don't do it in my bed, don't do it where you work at,
- 5:39and don't do it with people that are your friends that are going to
- 5:43like when I if I get out of prison and I give my time back
- 5:46and I go home, I'm going to be around these people. Because that's
- 5:49the ultimate disrespect as for a woman to sleep with someone else, to cheat
- 5:57on you with someone else that's going to be around you all the time that
- 6:00you're going to invite into y'all's home. And now, look, women,
- 6:03let me give you some advice there is I'm not sure what to call it.
- 6:09I'm just I'm just going to label it a man thing. When you're
- 6:14in a relationship with a guy and you cheat on him and you have sex
- 6:17with one of their friends, or you have sex with someone that's just going
- 6:20to be in y'all's life somewhat, maybe someone at their work or or family
- 6:27member. However, when guys pull up on other guys and you're snuggled up
- 6:33in your guy's arms, you're standing there holding hands or something like that the
- 6:38god that you're cheating on, the guy that you're excuse me, the guy
- 6:42that you're cheating with, the guy that you're sleeping with, is going to
- 6:45look your man in the eyes and he's going to give him that silent message
- 6:48like yeah, I'm hitting your girl, bro, what the you're gonna do
- 6:53about it? And we recognize that look, We see that look. Come
- 6:56on, man, we ain't dumb. We know what time is. Yeah,
- 6:59you got some a little bit clue is but most of us we pick
- 7:01up on that. It's a man thing. It's a it's a domination type
- 7:06of thing, like yeah, and that's what guys are thinking in their head.
- 7:12So like he doesn't want to deal with that. Cartoon don't want to
- 7:14deal with that because cartoon get that look. Some she's gonna jump off,
- 7:18like dude trying to go for real. I mean, yeah, he's doing
- 7:23everything he can now to kind of lay low and you know, stay out
- 7:27the way and so on and so forth. But he goes home and some
- 7:31dude that she's been sleeping with gives him that look, and yeah, that's
- 7:36it's gonna be a little bit different. Like he's probably gonna do thirty days
- 7:42in jail for you know, for a soul battery. And then you got
- 7:46some guys in here that from the you know, like me, I don't
- 7:49want to know about it. Don't tell me, Like Nicole, if you're
- 7:54listening to this, if for whatever reason you have those needs, hey,
- 7:59just yead, don't don't do it in our house, don't do it in
- 8:01our bed, and I don't want to know who the mother is, and
- 8:05don't tell me about it. Cartoon. He's the opposite. He actually wants
- 8:09to know. He look, just let me know, but follow these certain
- 8:13guidelines and rules. But then you've got other guys like I'm not going to
- 8:18say his name just simply because I haven't ran this by him. But he
- 8:22was a part of the conversation, and he was like, look, man,
- 8:24if I call home and my girl is actually having sex while I'm on
- 8:28a phone, they said, man, I'm put me on speakerphone, so
- 8:33why can encourage the god they set it down in there so I can hear
- 8:37that getting popped. I'm like, bro, for real, he said,
- 8:39yeah, he said why not? He says, shoot, dude, I'm
- 8:43gonna throw the damn blanket over my lap, and I'm gonna start masturbating to
- 8:46it. I'm like, bro, you're taking it too far now, man,
- 8:48he said. Look, man, I'm gonna be in prison for the
- 8:50rest of my life, he said, Man, chances are I ain't never
- 8:54getting no asked again? So why why why not enjoy hearing that making it
- 9:00a little bit more real for me when I do? Masterbak. Yeah,
- 9:03that's that's a totally different outlook than I've got, man, you know.
- 9:07And that's that's the way guys are in prison. And some obviously they get
- 9:13broken on it. They get destroyed like it's the worst thing in the world
- 9:18that has ever happened to them. They find out their wife is cheating on
- 9:22them. They start screaming and cussing on the phone and disrespecting them and all
- 9:28that. And they they several relationships. They'll delete the phone number off their
- 9:31call list. They'll go delete them off the kiosk so they can no longer
- 9:35get emails from them. There they go, they'll start doing drugs, they'll
- 9:39start drinking, they'll start fighting it. They don't know how to handle that.
- 9:43They don't know how to deal with that, they don't know how to
- 9:46process that. You see this stuff a lot. I mean, it's it's
- 9:50standing near regular currents, especially if you're like in a big pot and there's
- 9:54eighty to one hundred guys in the pod. Like you'll see it like once
- 10:00or twice a month. You'll see a guy just smap out like that because
- 10:03he found out that his wife had sexu with some dude on the street.
- 10:07I think personally, if you get locked up, whether you're female or male,
- 10:13it doesn't matter if you're in a relationship with someone, if you're married
- 10:18to someone, and for whatever reason you get incarcerated, you cannot hold your
- 10:24spouse or your significant other to chastity. Now I know there's gonna be a
- 10:31lot of Christians if here it is to start screaming at me, especially with
- 10:35the fact that I am a Christian. But people have needs. People need
- 10:41that. Once you start, like, there's no stopping. Once you start
- 10:45having sex, there's no there's no going back. Or you might not do
- 10:48it for you know, a year or two, but you ain't doing it
- 10:52with other people, but you're still going to be doing it with yourself,
- 10:54so you still having sex. Masturbation is still sex. That's what a lot
- 10:58of people in the world don't understand the COMPREHENDI it's still a sexual act.
- 11:03So even if you're not necessarily doing it with someone else, you're still having
- 11:05sex. It's just with yourself this time. So if you're in a relationship
- 11:09and you're in concentrated, you've got to accept that. And that's where most
- 11:13guys in prison are. We've come to the point where like, okay,
- 11:18look, just either don't tell us about it, or you know, follow
- 11:22these this set of guidelines. And I think that's the smart, mature way
- 11:28of handling it and dealing with it. Look, as long as you're there
- 11:31for me, as long as you're not doing it in my house or my
- 11:33bed, as long as it ain't nobody in my family, or it ain't
- 11:37none of our friends that I'm going to see when I'm you know, matter
- 11:39of fact, I don't even want it in our town. Go go to
- 11:43another town, Go go visit someplace else, and you know, have your
- 11:46little one nice stand or whatever, and then come on back to the house.
- 11:48And when you've got those certain needs again, you know, you go
- 11:52to a different town or whatever. But like, just don't crap where ye
- 11:56eat, basically is what I'm saying. And that's how I chose to look
- 12:01at it. It's gonna hurt. Like nobody wants there's fouls or their significant
- 12:07other to be in arms of someone else. But at what point do you
- 12:13have to set someone free? At what point do you say, Look,
- 12:16do you know what I was if I was on the street and they was
- 12:22in here? Could I be faithful to this person? And if your answer
- 12:26is no, and look, this is the thing. A lot of men
- 12:31have a double standard. A lot of men think it's okay for them to
- 12:35run around and have sex with a whole bunch of girls and it means nothing.
- 12:39But yet you let their girl do the exact same thing, even if
- 12:43it's just one time. All of a sudden, they paint them with a
- 12:48horror brush. They paint them as a slut or one of those nasty derogatory
- 12:56words. For the simple fact that it's them doing it to them. That's
- 13:01not fair. You can't do that. What's good for the goose is good
- 13:05for the gander. So when you come to prison and you deal with this,
- 13:11and you're gonna deal with this if you come to prison, don't burn
- 13:15your relationship, don't lose someone in your life. That means something to you,
- 13:20someone who's willing to help you, someone who's willing to talk to you
- 13:24and stand by your side. Because there's a lot of guys who come to
- 13:26prison and their wives are their girls will leave them immediately, like the relationship
- 13:33is over with and they just move on to someone else. So if you're
- 13:37in a relationship with a girl on the street and you get locked up for
- 13:41whatever, let her do her bro Just set some ground rules at the beginning
- 13:46of the relationship, you know, at the beginning of your sentence, I
- 13:48mean, the beginning of your time. Set those ground rules and then stick
- 13:52by them and don't think about it. Don't let yourself be in here.
- 13:56Wonder, man, I wonder what she doing, Wonder who she doing?
- 14:00How many is she doing? Like, come on, bruh, she wasn't
- 14:03doing that with you while you was on the street. She ain't gonna be
- 14:05doing it with other guys. Stop that and like and you hear guys in
- 14:09the cell at night sometimes crying, and you can hear guys talking to themselves
- 14:15having conversations with their girl like bitchy'all kill you out there, you cheat on
- 14:18me, like they're doing, like they're holding this conversation in their head and
- 14:22speaking it out loud, and you can actually hear what they're going through,
- 14:26especially when the pod is quiet, especially like you don't got your TV turned
- 14:30on or whatnot. You hear these types of conversations Like there's times I want
- 14:35to climb up on event, like yo, Bra, what are you doing?
- 14:39Man? Like? What would you be doing if you was on the
- 14:41street right now your girl was locked up? Some guys can handle it,
- 14:46some guys can't. You have one minute remaining, but that's that's about it
- 14:54on that conversation. Yeah, life is tricky, isn't it. Anyway,
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