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- 0:06[SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to a special edition of the IU report with Grant Schauss and Mike Hutzl, their reaction to the big tens announcement of the Hoosiers basketball teams, 202627 basketball schedule, and it's only on the central Indian sports report.
- 0:27[SPEAKER_02]: Mike Big news here is Indiana basketball release its entire schedule for this season.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_02]: A couple of things that jumped out originally at me is that they're getting the West Coast strip out of the way.
- 0:41[SPEAKER_02]: Early, they're going to go out and play at Oregon and Washington and early January and get that done and over with, which I think will be nice.
- 0:49[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want that looming kind of in the middle of February, especially when we see an Indiana half the battle at the end and trying to get into tournament and trying to be above 500 and all this stuff and beyond the bubble.
- 1:05[SPEAKER_02]: those kind of trips to long travel, not saying it would with this theme, but it could deflate them.
- 1:11[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen teams in the past that would have that kind of problem and it would deflate them a little bit.
- 1:16[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, and also a plan for do on a Tuesday night at home in assembly hall and then the Friday night of boy sectional for high school in the state of Indiana, they're going to play at Purdue last game of the regular season for Indiana before
- 1:35[SPEAKER_02]: the big ten tournament.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_02]: What jumps out to you about the entire schedule and the entire slate.
- 1:41[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the out of conferences that we've talked about, and it's definitely, you know, on paper, at least as a their December is very, then November late November December schedule is very difficult, and to throw in a road trip to Iowa.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_01]: Um, in Big Ten play into the middle of that makes it even a little more daunting for the month of December.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_01]: End of the year is brutal.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_01]: I know that last five stretch where it's Purdue at Wisconsin, Michigan State, the second Purdue game.
- 2:22[SPEAKER_01]: And there's one more in there that I've obviously Maryland Maryland.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that stretch at the end of the year is brutal.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we know, we're all too familiar with Atlas content and what that leads to on the schedule.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_01]: Michigan State, team that people are saying is a final for contender coming to assembly all for that one.
- 2:46[SPEAKER_01]: And then the game at Purdue, look, we've seen what Friday nights in Mackie can be like we saw it last year.
- 2:55[SPEAKER_01]: And just kind of, I'm not even normally
- 3:01[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you gotta do it for the high schoolers, man.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_01]: But to play that game in this state on the Friday night of IHSA Boys Basketball sectionals is pretty tone deaf by the big ten and by Fox and by all the affiliates.
- 3:22[SPEAKER_01]: Play that game.
- 3:23[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
- 3:26[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a fix to it,
- 3:31[SPEAKER_01]: As a parent who's hopefully going to have a sectional semi final that night, I'm it's not a choice, I know which one I'm going to attend and I'm not going to be able to watch in any inappropriate game that is, I mean, if you play like on a Friday night in January, okay, you know, you maybe you miss a board and Henryville game or something, but
- 4:02[SPEAKER_01]: That's a huge night for high school basketball in this state like that's probably I mean it is the night as you're going to say it might be the biggest night of high school basketball in the state of Indiana is the Friday night of section of section of week obviously you know regional games sites and semi-states, but so many teams are playing that night.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's from Gary to four weighing to Evansville
- 4:29[SPEAKER_01]: to rising sun.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's all the entire freaking state is playing that night.
- 4:35[SPEAKER_01]: And the two biggest programs in the state aren't going to be able to be watched by people who go to these games.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's just,
- 4:45[SPEAKER_01]: That's frustrating.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I said, it's pretty toned of I understand it's a huge ratings game for for Fox to get Indiana and Purdue and prime time whenever they can, but Friday night section a weekman, I'm surprised I was surprised I was not pleasantly surprised when I saw it and it just doesn't sit well with me.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_02]: It does suck and it's one of those things.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you just hit on every major point that I would have made about it.
- 5:18[SPEAKER_02]: You know, my dad talks about when he was a kid and you probably even remember this to Mike is like the day the Indiana basketball schedule came out was such a big deal because you could sit down and decide what game you could make and go to that kind of thing
- 5:38[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, there's kind of a big deal back in the day and the glory days of it all because a lot of high school teams, not all, but a lot of them, scheduled their games around Indiana games.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_02]: If Indiana was playing on a Tuesday night, there weren't a whole lot of high school games.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_02]: That's just the effect that it had at that time in the, in the eighties and
- 6:05[SPEAKER_02]: probably into the early 90s, too, it had so much effect on it.
- 6:10[SPEAKER_02]: So it's unfortunate that it has to be that way in terms of not getting a play or, well, are getting a play, but not getting a play in front of the,
- 6:21[SPEAKER_02]: the audience that you would get for this game if it was the next day at two o'clock.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_00]: The three of us are die-hards, you two, I, you.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Purdue.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_00]: We podcast about it.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_00]: That's how much we love it.
- 6:34[SPEAKER_00]: And the three of us already know we're gonna be on that Friday night.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna be at high school basketball game.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it's exactly short-sighted as the right word.
- 6:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it kind of stains.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we could circle back to it when the time comes and you could, you know, the game get having here, yeah, man, thankfully, you know, man, my credit game because, you know, Indiana just got annihilated and, and if the truth be told on on what we know in the past, and what Indiana's done in the situation, probably it will end up happening.
- 7:14[SPEAKER_02]: So I, I don't
- 7:26[SPEAKER_01]: overall on the schedule of grant.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_01]: What do you, um, I know you're like me.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_01]: You're one of those guys who probably sits down and does this, this, this, and this helps to happen.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_01]: And I am so, at this point, is it bad to say maybe jaded that I'm looking at this schedule and saying to myself,
- 7:52[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I fully expected this team to be a pretty comfortable NCA term in team, but with this schedule, I don't, I'm not just jumping up for joy saying, oh yeah, to me, everybody's, and they got some great home only this year, you don't have to go to some of these road trips that they've had to make in the past, but at the same time,
- 8:21[SPEAKER_01]: having your toughest games at home could potentially be a home loss and I think we all know that the best route in the Big Ten is to win as many of your home games as possible and try like hell to go 500 or something close to it on the road.
- 8:39[SPEAKER_01]: And if you come out now, Purdue can lose five games at home and it doesn't matter, they get a two seed for some reason anyway, but
- 8:48[SPEAKER_01]: If you come out of the big 10 schedule with five home losses and you've got Michigan and Purdue and Michigan State and Illinois, these types of games at home, if you lose all those games, you've got to try to make them up on the road and where do those wins come from?
- 9:04[SPEAKER_01]: I think we can all pretty much put an L at Wisconsin on the schedule.
- 9:09[SPEAKER_01]: Great match.
- 9:11[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_01]: You win it, you win at Oregon in Washington, hopefully.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, those are tough road trips to make.
- 9:22[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think at this point until it proven otherwise, I'm not putting Northwestern as a W at any time soon.
- 9:29[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.
- 9:30[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_02]: So they have to go on the road.
- 9:34[SPEAKER_02]: Ready?
- 9:35[SPEAKER_02]: They get Butler in an exhibition game
- 9:40[SPEAKER_02]: actually unbelievable that I'm saying is less than a month on October 11th at Hinkle if you're even out in that they're first true road game is not till December 7th at Iowa then their next true road game after that is an until January 6th of all days at Oregon.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_02]: Then they're at Washington, January 9th, and they're at Minnesota, January 20th, sucks they got to get at Minneapolis in the middle of January.
- 10:09[SPEAKER_02]: They're at Northwestern on January 27th.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_02]: They're at Penn State on the second February.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_02]: They're at Nebraska on February 6th.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_02]: They're at Maryland on February 13th, at Wisconsin on February 19th, and at Purdue on March the 5th.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_02]: So they don't have to go to Ann Arbor.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have to go to Ohio State.
- 10:29[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to go to champagne.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have to get, yeah, they don't have to go to champagne.
- 10:33[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have to go to East Lansing, which is good.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_02]: You're catching a break in terms of all that.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_02]: The one thing they do have to, like we said, they have to go to Iowa.
- 10:42[SPEAKER_02]: They have sucked at Iowa except that one time, the blind squirrel found a nut with Archie Miller out there.
- 10:51[SPEAKER_02]: They have to go to Wisconsin, which you mentioned.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_02]: You could almost chalk an L right there.
- 10:55[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to go to Northwestern, which again, like you said, until proven otherwise, they're not beating Northwestern.
- 11:03[SPEAKER_02]: They have always sucked against them.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_01]: And it hurts me so bad to say that sentence.
- 11:12[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, it's been to bear this.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_01]: That's just how stupid the lesson.
- 11:17[SPEAKER_01]: two decades of Indian basketball is become is like, well, until you prove me otherwise, I don't know, they being Northwestern any time since.
- 11:26[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and when you were a kid, did you think you would ever utter a statement like that?
- 11:32[SPEAKER_01]: No, Indian up until the Tom Creen rebuild had never lost a home game to Northwestern.
- 11:40[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's how one side of that rivalry was it took Indiana
- 11:47[SPEAKER_01]: win at North at Indiana.
- 11:49[SPEAKER_01]: And here we are now, it's like, well, you know, maybe if we can, I don't know, you know, that could be a 50 50 game at Northwestern game.
- 11:59[SPEAKER_01]: We can get that one to go our way.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_01]: And Wisconsin, I mean, the coal center, they, they've become such a just painful
- 12:15[SPEAKER_01]: They have one there, I believe, I'd have to double check my facts.
- 12:20[SPEAKER_01]: I think they won there early in the Colson or history, but, you know, and are my adult lifetime staff, they've not won there, and going back to last year, and I think you're going to see a lot of improvement from that program, January 20th and Minnesota, I'm not right, that used to be one that we're even like, okay, I feel pretty good about that one,
- 12:44[SPEAKER_01]: They lost up their last year to a really bad Minnesota team, and I think Minnesota could actually be decent this year, and they have a really good coach who's building something.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to get wins back if unless you run that table at home and you be Illinois.
- 13:00[SPEAKER_01]: a final 14 from last year, probably the preseason favorite in the conference.
- 13:05[SPEAKER_01]: You beat Michigan the defending national champions.
- 13:07[SPEAKER_01]: They've had some injuries.
- 13:09[SPEAKER_01]: They lost Dusty May.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: They are probably going to come back to the pack quite a bit this year.
- 13:15[SPEAKER_01]: Michigan State, again, Jeremy Fierre's final four.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_01]: We know about Purdue Indiana, you know, those two teams get together.
- 13:24[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a wild night Ohio State by the end of last year was playing as well as anybody.
- 13:32[SPEAKER_01]: in the big ten and they bring back a lot of a lot of that core they did lose Bruce Thornton but they added five star freshman Anthony Thompson who seeing someone named Anthony Thompson playing a sport other than at Indiana is hurtful and Indiana was in the final two with Ohio State to get that kid.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough, I mean, the big tin can be a gauntlet, and I'm glad to have the opportunity to play those teams at home, but just know if you'd lose some of those games, you gotta find wins on the other side, and I don't know where those wins come from.
- 14:17[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing that Mike is what we've got for gotten, and we've neglected to acknowledge.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_02]: You got a little, I hate to say this because you want to win every game.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to, but you want to.
- 14:35[SPEAKER_02]: And you want to win as many conference games as you can.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana probably has a little more room for air.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_02]: They probably have this much room for air as they did last year to make the tournament.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_02]: Because if it was 76 teams last year, they would
- 14:56[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing this year, they could lose some of these games and they're going to, I mean, they're not going to run the table.
- 15:01[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're pretty good team.
- 15:03[SPEAKER_02]: I think they, I think they have a roster capable of not having to be on the bubble of the 76 teams in the NCAA tournament now to make it.
- 15:14[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, if they lose the Northwestern, all right, they lose the Minnesota, all right.
- 15:21[SPEAKER_02]: But again, you don't want that to become a thing here.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we lost this line, but you know, there's 70, 60's that if we did do it, we're supposed to do it.
- 15:28[SPEAKER_02]: We'll make it.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_02]: You'll quickly find you're not one of the 70's, 60's, right?
- 15:33[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then we didn't even mention the big 10 tournament.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_02]: Man, there's no, there's no point.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and the curse that's on it, it's an Indianapolis this year.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_02]: It's that game bridge.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_02]: like that's a matter.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's a matter.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it ain't gonna make a difference.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_02]: But if you're matched up with Northwestern, and again, you're still on it beat them, then you're trying to fight for another chance of getting a tournament.
- 16:01[SPEAKER_02]: It may not work out.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things here where you gotta look at it a little differently about trying to make the tournament.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_02]: And now that there's more teams that make the tournament, there's the 76 instead of 68.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_01]: And that preseason before the Big Ten starts, how many of those games do they win?
- 16:25[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can see them come out on top of the exhibition door.
- 16:28[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't care about the exhibition.
- 16:30[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about the exhibition.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, those games, I mean, any enemy Baylor last year, pretty lost a Kentucky, I don't think either team would trade their seasons that they had.
- 16:44[SPEAKER_01]: because of the exhibition game that they lost or won.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, I'm talking about the Arkansas and a neutral site can tuck a Lucas oil central central Florida Syracuse on a neutral site and Missouri at home.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_01]: Those five games.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_01]: What's, I mean, what do they go to and three there?
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_01]: Central Florida but come out with losses to Arkansas Kentucky and Missouri.
- 17:18[SPEAKER_01]: That's the three best teams.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_01]: I think of that group.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to play.
- 17:24[SPEAKER_01]: If they go two and three there and then.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_01]: So help us nine and 11 in the conference.
- 17:31[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 17:32[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what's your record?
- 17:35[SPEAKER_01]: You've got 14 losses going into the big ten tournament.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_01]: not good.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_01]: Since is that enough to get into a 76 team in the eight tournaments?
- 17:50[SPEAKER_01]: Right, not.
- 17:52[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't think so.
- 17:54[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a big, it's a big second season for coach deliveries.
- 18:00[SPEAKER_01]: I like that he upgraded the talent on the roster.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_01]: He seems to be getting a good start to his 27 recruiting class.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing a lot of things positively, but this is a big test to see how this team plays out because the end of last year was ugly.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be real.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_01]: It was bad.
- 18:23[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't compete in a lot of the against a lot of the teams they were playing.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_01]: They were blowing games against teams that they should have been able to beat.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_01]: and you didn't have to be good to make the NTA turn in my last year and Indian still couldn't pull it off now.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll remind you of what we said at the time.
- 18:52[SPEAKER_02]: It was still embarrassing and it was so ugly and it was not a good
- 18:59[SPEAKER_02]: that you would have way rather have seen my name as Ohio who didn't really play anybody get in over Indiana.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree, but then you had like an SMU team get in that lied about who'd be healthy and available to get into the tournament.
- 19:19[SPEAKER_01]: And then when those guys weren't available, they looked awful.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_01]: And once the tournament started, so it's 76 teams.
- 19:28[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not one of these people.
- 19:29[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this two venues is stupid.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all for tournament expansion.
- 19:34[SPEAKER_01]: I think more NTA tournament games is a great idea.
- 19:38[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna watch.
- 19:40[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like the idea of it, but what happens?
- 19:42[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be good with it.
- 19:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was gonna say you're gonna be what?
- 19:46[SPEAKER_01]: When that first game hits, when that,
- 19:50[SPEAKER_01]: CBS theme song hits on the first day yeah you're going to be you're going to be watching and you're not going to care for a second that there were 76 teams instead of 68.
- 19:59[SPEAKER_02]: Hot air percent.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_02]: The hot air percent degree.
- 20:05[SPEAKER_02]: You sit there in the middle of like February and you're going man.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_02]: You're in about a month.
- 20:10[SPEAKER_02]: It'll start feeling warm around.
- 20:12[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be watching basketball all day.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to not watch a single bubble segment next year.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good goal to have for this team.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_02]: You should, I don't want to be looking at the bubble in the middle of February.
- 20:32[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to read about who the last four in.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_01]: And the net first four buys in the next four out.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to read any of that stuff next year.
- 20:43[SPEAKER_02]: The only time I want to look at Joe Lenardy is what seed this team has and where the game's going to be played.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a big opportunity.
- 20:57[SPEAKER_01]: If you have a good season, the levels of attorney are tight.
- 21:00[SPEAKER_01]: If you could get a two round, right?
- 21:02[SPEAKER_01]: Two rounds down here in the level, that's a heck of a, you know, any NFL fans would be dying to fill the yum center.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like 30 minutes for you.
- 21:16[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that'd be there in RB.
- 21:18[SPEAKER_02]: And just,
- 21:20[SPEAKER_02]: You probably watch him at 12 o'clock and have avery back to school by, you know, it's haven't buried.
- 21:27[SPEAKER_01]: Avery gets an opportunity to miss school, avery's going to miss school.
- 21:29[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that
- 21:49[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the Mike picked it up, but Fletcher is on an impressive snoring spree right next to me during the full podcast.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hear it at all.
- 21:59[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I get here.
- 22:00[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.
- 22:01[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
- 22:02[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't let you let your lawyer, huh?
- 22:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's exactly who it's named after.
- 22:08[SPEAKER_01]: Not Fletcher Cox, not Fletcher Cox, the Eagles legend.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much Grant.
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