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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, March twenty fourth. I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom Moore. The Akron game in one hundred and sixty one days,
- 0:06the game against Michigan in two hundred and fifty one days. There is
- 0:10a lot that's going to be changing about college football this season. The College
- 0:13Football Playoff going from four teams to twelve teams. That's just one example.
- 0:17New teams in the SEC, new teams in the ACC, new teams in
- 0:20the Big Ten, new teams in the Big twelve, no more Pac twelve,
- 0:23among many other things. One of the things that is potentially on the
- 0:28horizon in terms of change is the future of the ACC and some of the
- 0:33big brand teams in the ACC. More news came out this week with Clemson
- 0:38filing a lawsuit against the ACC. Garrett Seawright hosts The Daily Huddle podcast and
- 0:43our sister site, Saturday Glory. He had some very interesting thoughts on Clemson's
- 0:48lawsuit against the ACC what it might mean for the future of that league.
- 0:52So here's a little bit from Garrett sea Right of The Daily Huddle podcast.
- 0:56If you like this, I always enjoy Garrett's podcast. If you like this,
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- 1:03buck Eyes tomorrow morning. So Clemson is joining Florida State insuing the ACC in
- 1:11trying to get out of the grant of rights that expires in twenty thirty six.
- 1:17And it's a really intriguing lawsuit because for the most part, everybody has
- 1:26kind of argued, whether it's the ACC, whether it's the schools, whether
- 1:34it's independent people who have lawyers, whatever the case may be, they've looked
- 1:38at the contract that everybody's signed to stay in the ACC and has said this
- 1:42is pretty air tight. I don't know, I don't think there's a way
- 1:46out of this. And now two different schools have tried to say, well,
- 1:49wait a second, yes, yes, there is a way out of
- 1:52here, and here's what it is. Now. Florida State has argued,
- 1:57essentially that throughout their lawsuit is that our contract with the ESPN really only goes
- 2:07through twenty twenty eight, So why are we locked in through twenty thirty six?
- 2:15And that's not a bad argument to make, but I think the consensus
- 2:20will say, like, while that's an argument that you can say, hey,
- 2:25this kind of sucks, it is an argument against I guess the argument
- 2:35doesn't make a whole lot of sense that like, does this portion of your
- 2:39contract suck? Yes, but you agreed to it. You sign the document
- 2:45that says, hey, while the contract goes through twenty twenty eight, you're
- 2:50locked in through twenty thirty six. Is it a bad provision of the contract?
- 2:53Sure, but you signed it. Sorry. Clemson's argument is not,
- 3:04uh, I don't know what the right word is. Essentially, their argument
- 3:09is is the the exit fee is really high and that's bull crap, which
- 3:16again is one of those like hey, uh, that that sucks, but
- 3:22you did agree to that. You did say, Like, it's the same
- 3:27thing is sort of like, you know, if when I'm when a like
- 3:30NFL player holds out for a bigger contract in training camp, then like like
- 3:35if you're already under contract and you're like, yeah, but I deserve to
- 3:38be paid more than that, Sure you do, but this besky thing you
- 3:43assigned that legally requires me to only pay you this much. Yet you agreed
- 3:47to that too. And that's sort of what Clemson and Florida State are in
- 3:51right now. Now. This Clemson is making an argument that Florida State is
- 3:57not and I find that interesting because you would think that both of those schools
- 4:01would be like, hey, let's see if we can't get on the same
- 4:04page here a little bit and make the same argument. Because if two universities
- 4:11are making the same argument in the conference one, it puts a little bit
- 4:14of pressure on the conference to say, hey, maybe there is a growing
- 4:18descent inside the conference. But then also it kind of packs a little bit
- 4:24more power to your punch if you can say, hey, we both are
- 4:30in agreement that this is what the contract reads to us, and that's why
- 4:33we're suing. Rather than Florida State says one thing. Clemson comes back and
- 4:38says, well, actually, what we're saying is is a whole different thing.
- 4:41Clemson's argument, Florida State's argument is the contract runs through twenty twenty eight,
- 4:46so why are we locked in through twenty thirty six. Clemson is saying
- 4:49the contract only runs for while we're in the ACC, that our grant of
- 4:54rights, basically our TV money is only given to the ACC as as long
- 5:00as we're in the ACC, and once we leave, that money goes back
- 5:04to me. And I have whatever situation I want to put together, whatever
- 5:12conference I want to join that's up to me at that point. That's the
- 5:16argument Clemson's making, which is a really interesting one because if that one is
- 5:21found true, that one opens the floodgates. And it's something I know that
- 5:28we've talked about before, somewhat at length of if slash. When this all
- 5:34comes down and strikes down and things get right and perfect and hip hip,
- 5:42hooray for the ACC members that want out, the conference is toast because everybody,
- 5:48it's like when you flip the lights on the cockroach, it start scrambling,
- 5:53and there are schools in that conference that are going to be looking for
- 5:57a home that don't include being in the Big ten or SEC, because the
- 6:03ACC is going to be in a world of hurt if if, if a
- 6:06judge rules that Clemson, the argument they're making is I only have to give
- 6:13the ACC my TV money as long as I'm in the ACC, and once
- 6:15I leave, I get to do whatever I dam well please. About fifteen
- 6:21minutes after that verdict is reached, Clemson is gonna say, hey, by
- 6:25the way, we are moving to the SEC, and other schools are gonna
- 6:30start jumping ship as well. Give it. About twenty five minutes after that,
- 6:34verdict comes down because everybody in the ACC they're not dumb. They see
- 6:41the riding on the wall. They know that, Hey, when you look
- 6:45at the money that the Big ten and SEC are gonna get from their TV
- 6:47deals compared to what we're gonna get from our TV deal, we're gonna get
- 6:53left behind. And we can't afford to get left behind. Therefore, we're
- 6:56gonna have to figure something out here. And it's I would think that it's
- 7:02highly unlikely, highly unlikely that ESPN comes back to the bargaining table and tells
- 7:12the ACC like, Hey, you know what, you guys were right,
- 7:15I'm willing to give you more money after you know you've spent millions in legal
- 7:21fees and you've discussed all of this and had to figure out legal strategies and
- 7:27then shared kind of the fact that you hate the home that you've built.
- 7:30Unwilling to come back and give you a little bit extra money so you'll stay
- 7:34with me. I just don't I don't imagine that on the horizon. I
- 7:41imagine a scenario where, and I've said this before in the last week,
- 7:46I don't know that some triumvirant of Florida State, Stanford Notre Dame, probably
- 7:55Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia somewhere in there all joined the Big Ten
- 7:59where Clemson, Miami, you could probably argue Virginia Tech join the SEC whatever
- 8:07the case may be. But there are going to be some wake forests and
- 8:13potentially Dukes, Boston colleges, North Carolina states that might be left kind of
- 8:18on the on the outskirts looking in going like, ah, that did not
- 8:24go well for us. So I just I think the idea that Clemson now
- 8:28is joining the fray of like we are going to launch a lawsuit against our
- 8:33conference, and make no mistake about it, They're not launching a lawsuit to
- 8:37try to like get The argument had been that Clemson and Florida State in Miami
- 8:43were kind of in North Carolina to a lesser extent. We're kind of leading
- 8:46this charge inside the conference of hey, you know, we we feel like
- 8:52we should get the lion's share of the TV revenue because we're bringing eyeballs,
- 8:58we're bringing success. I don't like that we're splitting the college football playoff revenue
- 9:03between evenly between the schools, et cetera. And you play that card is
- 9:07kind of a precursor to way, if it's the same thing that the SEC
- 9:13and Pig ten do in the college football playoff. If you don't do what
- 9:15we want you to do, if you don't think the same way we do,
- 9:18if you don't want to operate business wise the way we want you to
- 9:22operate business wise, we'll take our ball and go home, because our ball
- 9:28is much much bigger, nicer, extravagant ball than what you have. And
- 9:37so in that situation, I think you'll see a situation where if Clemson's legal
- 9:48strategy is proven valid and correct, that they're bolting, and I think you'll
- 9:54see, like Louisville go to the Big twelve. Maybe I don't know,
- 10:00we'll see how that all shakes out. But there is a definitely like a
- 10:03line of demarcation in the acc of like who's going to stay in the Power
- 10:07five, Power four at that point probably power three, and who's not.
- 10:13And I said earlier this week, I imagine that those deals are somewhat probably
- 10:16already worked out, that these schools like that. There's a reason that Clemson
- 10:20is so vehemently now trying to change. It's the course of its trajectory.
- 10:30In the same vein that Florida State is the reason that they're trying to do
- 10:33that is because they know they can see what is on the horizon and figure
- 10:37out, Okay, how do I get there? Because they're not suing their
- 10:41conference to stay in their conference. Florida State and Clemson are not suing the
- 10:48ACC because they love the current situation. But there's just some few minor tweaks,
- 10:58right, like it's not the you know, it's not the like America
- 11:03love it or leave it. Like they're saying, like, while it's nice
- 11:05here, it certainly could be better, and maybe it might be better over
- 11:11there, grass might be greater, and so they're going to try to figure
- 11:15out how to get there. So these are all just elaborate ploys that are
- 11:20going to cost millions and millions of dollars for those two schools to try to
- 11:28bust down the gate for those who want out of the ACC. And I
- 11:33wouldn't be surprised if you'll see a coalition, so to speak, of Florida
- 11:41State, Clemson, Miami, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Virginia, Virginia
- 11:48Tech to try to push through that and leave Pitt and Syracuse and Boston College
- 11:56and Wake Forest in North Carolina state and Louisville behind. I think it's just
- 12:01a matter of when, not if that goes down, because at some point
- 12:07it's gonna become too much of a burden to handle. And when you've got
- 12:13kind of the gasoline already pre poured for the fire, you're just waiting on
- 12:18somebody to lie to match. And whether that's a judge, whether that is
- 12:20a college president, whether that's a TV executive, whoever it is, Eventually
- 12:26somebody is gonna like that match and it's gonna go up with flames and we'll
- 12:33talk about it then too. That'll do it for today's episode of The Daily
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