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Speaker 1: The Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Ross and thank you for joining me Tonight.
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Speaker 3: The ABC finally apologizes for their obscene attack on Gina Reinhardt,
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Speaker 3: but they insist it didn't break their editorial guidelines. I'll
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Speaker 3: get a response from the Nationals and Webster my exclusive
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Speaker 3: interview with the Palestinian advocate from Gaza, who calls out
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Speaker 3: Hummas as the real enemy of the Ghazan people. This
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Speaker 3: while Donald Trump again says a deal could be imminent
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Speaker 3: in the Middle East. Alexander Danna joins me in sport
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Speaker 3: with Mark Robinson. We'll get the latest concussion controversy in
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Speaker 3: the AFL.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: Taxpayers fund the ABC to the tune of one point
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Speaker 3: two billion dollars a year so that it can employ
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Speaker 3: about four thousand people who are required under law to
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Speaker 3: provide the nation with fair, objective, informative material.
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Speaker 2: That adds to the cultural life of the nation.
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Speaker 3: Yet for all that money, all those people on staff,
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Speaker 3: and all that clear guidance about its role, the ABC
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Speaker 3: has taken almost four weeks to finally admit that its grotesque,
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Speaker 3: violent and puerile swipe at Gina Reinhardt was beyond the
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Speaker 3: pale for those in doubt. Here's the controversial content again.
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Speaker 4: Because when the revolution comes, will you hide under your
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Speaker 4: bed or will you know exactly how to shove a
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Speaker 4: stick right off Gena Reinhart's buttle, stirring it around, nixing
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Speaker 4: her guts up nice and smooth, making her into one
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Speaker 4: big sausage.
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Speaker 2: Role just sickening.
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Speaker 3: Yet the ABC has spent weeks defending it, deferring to
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Speaker 3: its internal ombardsman, and the Albanezi government has been pathetic.
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Speaker 3: Listen to the Communications Minister even this morning.
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Speaker 5: My personal view is that that was unacceptable, but it's
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Speaker 5: not for me to make that determination. It's for the
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Speaker 5: ombudsman to do so. And I'll anticipate your next question, Harry.
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Speaker 5: If the onbudsman finds that, like in my view, it's unacceptable,
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Speaker 5: it would be appropriate for the ABC to issue an apology.
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Speaker 5: But what's important is that that process plays out first,
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Speaker 5: and that's what any news publisher would expect the Minister
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Speaker 5: for Communications to act in this process.
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Speaker 3: What an absolute joke, just spineless. Now, none of this
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Speaker 3: was going to stand. As I said last night, this
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Speaker 3: stonewalling from the ABC is counterproductive. I guarantee you they
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Speaker 3: will apologize eventually. They have to the public demands it.
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Speaker 3: It should have happened a week or so ago, and today, surprise, surprise,
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Speaker 3: our own News twenty four website focused on an ABC
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Speaker 3: online analysis piece that notably decided to drag in a
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Speaker 3: reference to Jabba the Hut. Well, then, of course, the
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Speaker 3: ABC finally must have realized it was digging itself into
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Speaker 3: an ever deepening hole. A statement was issued by Managing
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Speaker 3: director Hugh Marx.
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Speaker 2: It said, the.
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Speaker 3: ABC apologizes to missus Reinhardt and to anyone else affected
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Speaker 3: or upset by the publication of the film Hallelujah. The
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Speaker 3: ABC finally sees what anyone with any shred of human
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Speaker 3: decency could have seen from the outset. Just how grown
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Speaker 3: adults could assemble this dross, view it and then clear
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Speaker 3: it to go on air, then discuss it, defend it,
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Speaker 3: and rationalize it is beyond explanation.
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Speaker 2: But even more worrying.
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Speaker 3: Was what the statement revealed about ABC's standards. While the
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Speaker 3: Onwoodsman has found that the film did not breach the
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Speaker 3: ABC's editorial policies, said Marx, the ABC acknowledges this episode
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Speaker 3: has fallen short of community expectations. Yeah, so it's community expectations.
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Speaker 3: That rule here in the end, not the ABC guidelines. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: the Onwardsman cleared it. This tells you two things. The
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Speaker 3: ABC editorial policies are a sham, and the role of
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Speaker 3: an internal onwardsman is a joke. Marx now says the
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Speaker 3: ABC is going to revise its guidelines as they apply
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Speaker 3: to violence. Look, if you have to devise and print
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Speaker 3: guidelines to tell your reporters and producers that wishing gratuitous
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Speaker 3: violence upon people just because you don't like them is
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Speaker 3: not exemporary public broadcasting, then you are admitting that your
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Speaker 3: whole organization is out of touch with the very citizens
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Speaker 3: it's supposed to serve. And Marx and his chairman, Kim Williams,
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Speaker 3: and all the other senior executives at the ABC have
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Speaker 3: failed to call out this vile abuse for almost four weeks.
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Speaker 3: They stand condemned now along with the people who produced
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Speaker 3: and aired it.
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Speaker 2: It really has been astonishing to watch.
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Speaker 3: The ABC doesn't mind violent imagery, it doesn't mind foul abuse,
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Speaker 3: and it doesn't mind profanity.
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Speaker 2: But there is one word. It seems to have a
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Speaker 2: lot of trouble with all.
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Speaker 3: It seems to me, it seems to do the hard world. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: just an early clear and sincere sorry about three weeks ago,
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Speaker 3: would have cut it instead. Here's what Marx said late
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Speaker 3: today to one of his own radio stations.
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Speaker 6: Everybody is entitled to the same treatment by the ABC,
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Speaker 6: and ultimately we felt the treatment of miss rehan Hart
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Speaker 6: was not fair and so we apologized and we've edited
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Speaker 6: and changed the.
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Speaker 3: Program eventually a month to come up with that. What
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Speaker 3: have they been thinking? Where is their common sense? Where
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Speaker 3: is their decency? Why do we fund these people? Marx
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Speaker 3: is on about a million dollars a year from taxpayers,
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Speaker 3: by the way, and it's taken him all this time
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Speaker 3: to work out that public fantasies about sodomizing and killing
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Speaker 3: a prominent woman are not acceptable content for the national broadcaster.
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Speaker 3: It's the same old problem at the ABC. No one
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Speaker 3: is in charge. Let me stay on the ABC and
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Speaker 3: its role in political debate and its complete lack of
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Speaker 3: self awareness. As you've probably heard, Pauline Hanson banned The
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Speaker 3: S and The Guardian from her candidate's announcement in Melbourne
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Speaker 3: on Monday.
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Speaker 7: The ABC were denied entry into here and the Guardian.
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Speaker 7: I'm not putting up with the spin gotcha moments, wanting
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Speaker 7: to have a go at me, or I will treat
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Speaker 7: us totally different to what you do the other major
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Speaker 7: political parties.
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Speaker 1: Enough is enough now.
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Speaker 3: While I agree with Hanson that the ABC and The
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Speaker 3: Guardian don't report her fairly or objectively, there's no doubt
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Speaker 3: about that, of course, but I reckon she's wrong to
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Speaker 3: ban the ABC because it makes her look kind of
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Speaker 3: weak and because it stops a lot of people around
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Speaker 3: the country hearing from her.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, that's her right.
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Speaker 3: She puts on an event, she can choose who to invite.
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Speaker 3: But the ABC is in high dudgeon, and instead of
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Speaker 3: taking this as a hint to rectify their green left
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Speaker 3: bias to rein in their visceral antipathy towards the populace right,
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Speaker 3: well instead there portraying this as a threat to democracy.
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Speaker 3: On one ABC program, they interviewed a former ABC journalist
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Speaker 3: advocating a media boycott against Hanson and one nation.
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Speaker 8: But I think we need to get to a point
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Speaker 8: where journalists stand up and say, if that's what you're
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Speaker 8: going to do to our colleagues, then we're not talking
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Speaker 8: to you ether and starve her of that outlet.
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Speaker 3: Ah, please, there's nothing that left likes more than a
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Speaker 3: striker or a boycott. Hey, you've got to remember that
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Speaker 3: even recently, the ABC has portrayed One Nation as immoral
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Speaker 3: and illegitimate.
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Speaker 8: We'll see how's the votes come through, but that will
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Speaker 8: be key, and that will legitimize them. And I used
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Speaker 8: the term earlier on in the broadcast, the permission structure.
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Speaker 8: If they are able to win their first Lower House siech,
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Speaker 8: that begins the process of legitimizing them.
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Speaker 9: It was wrong politically and it was wrong morally. It
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Speaker 9: gave a signal to liberal voters it was okay to
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Speaker 9: vote for one Nation.
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Speaker 3: Now, if that's what they really think, why would they
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Speaker 3: complain about not being able to interview Hanson?
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Speaker 2: Are they trying to legitimize her too? Now?
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Speaker 3: But if the ABC and their media academic mates really
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Speaker 3: want to talk about accountability and the need for politicians
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Speaker 3: to be open to all for scrutiny, perhaps they could
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Speaker 3: focus on how politicians of the left won't turn up
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Speaker 3: here on News twenty four. Labor and Greens just won't
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Speaker 3: show up here. Once the sun dips blow the yard arm.
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Speaker 3: I can't tell you how often I've asked for Anthony Albanezi,
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Speaker 3: Penny Wong Tony Burke, Chris Bowen, Jim Charmers, Sarah Hanson, Young,
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Speaker 3: Larissa Waters, Zarie Steggele Allegra Spender, Manique Ryan. I mean,
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Speaker 3: all the green left, labor Greens and Tills, all the
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Speaker 3: lefties run for cover. They don't want you to hear
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Speaker 3: from them. They just never turn up any place that
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Speaker 3: their worldview will be chilling.
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Speaker 2: But I tell you where they do turn up.
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Speaker 3: Along with Kevin Rudd and Malcolm Turnbull on Regular Turnaround.
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Speaker 3: They all turn up on the ABC and they never
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Speaker 3: face a probing question.
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Speaker 2: So explain to me how that is good for democracy.
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Speaker 2: It's really quite weak, but it looks like that's where.
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Speaker 3: We've ended up in this increasingly polarized world. Let's catch
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Speaker 3: up now with the shadow Regional Health Minister Anne Webster.
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Speaker 2: She joins us live from Mildura. Thanks for joining us in.
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Speaker 3: I want to get you first on the ABC and
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Speaker 3: this belated apology from Hugh Marx.
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Speaker 2: Why has it taken so long?
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Speaker 3: And doesn't that show that they don't seem to understand
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Speaker 3: common decency at the National Broadcaster.
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Speaker 10: Well, you know, we've got a saying out in the
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Speaker 10: regions which I think actually is said in the cities
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Speaker 10: as well, Chris, and that is it doesn't pass the
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Speaker 10: pub test, and the ABS needs to ask itself do
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Speaker 10: their actions actually pass the pub test? Where asked it
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Speaker 10: on a frequent basis As politicians, the ABC needs to
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Speaker 10: get a clear eyed look about whether the things that
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Speaker 10: they do would pass the pub tests, particularly out in
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Speaker 10: my electric because I can tell you what, I don't
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Speaker 10: believe it would to take as long as it has
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Speaker 10: for hu Marks to make an apology apology of sorts
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Speaker 10: and to take down that vile video is just unbelievable.
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Speaker 10: But the other point I would make, Chris is where
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Speaker 10: is the Prime Minister of Australia's having a holiday now?
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Speaker 10: Where is the Labor Party calling out the ABC and
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Speaker 10: saying you need to take that down?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Well, there's absolutely the government has been pathetic. The Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister does deserve condemnation because he wasn't on leave for
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Speaker 3: the first couple of weeks of this controversy. He's away now,
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Speaker 3: but I thought he's the one to say that you
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Speaker 3: shouldn't disappear when you're on leave.
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Speaker 2: He could easily make a statement on this.
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Speaker 3: It was a week been really weak of the government
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Speaker 3: not to demand an apology. It's hands off the ABC
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Speaker 3: because that's basically the official propaganda arm of the Green Left.
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Speaker 2: It's pathetic.
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Speaker 3: Let's go on to another one of those Labor Front
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Speaker 3: benches who is very much pushing the Green left line,
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Speaker 3: and that's Chris Bowen. We heard from him yesterday at
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Speaker 3: the National Press Club and he's doubling down on these renewables,
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Speaker 3: pushing his net zero push.
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Speaker 2: And this affects people in your region in particular.
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Speaker 3: We've talked to you before about transmission lines in Western
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Speaker 3: Victoria going through properties against the wishes of landholders, and
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Speaker 3: now we learn that some of those farmers have been
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Speaker 3: fined by the Victorian government for not allowing the transmission
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Speaker 3: experts onto their properties. I mean, what's going on here?
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Speaker 3: Do they not have rights over their own land?
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Speaker 10: Look well, clearly you know what in Labour's eyes, what's
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Speaker 10: yours is mine? You know, that's how they operate. We
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Speaker 10: have is farmers who have been standing their ground on
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Speaker 10: their right to farm, and Australians, everybody I speak to
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Speaker 10: backs our farmers. They do not back the Victorian Labor
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Speaker 10: government who have imposed this legislation which doesn't permit farmers
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Speaker 10: to take Victorian government or Victory or any of the
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Speaker 10: other bodies to VCAT. I mean, how on earth we
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Speaker 10: live in a democracy? Last time I checked, and they've
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Speaker 10: imposed these fines and demand that they can come on
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Speaker 10: to farmers properties. Now, farmers speak to me about the
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Speaker 10: fact that these Vicgrid people when it come on to
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Speaker 10: their property, no understanding of biosecurity, no care or concern
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Speaker 10: for their lambing use, which is what's going on, and
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Speaker 10: they are being fined. Now. The farmers are being fined
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Speaker 10: eight hundred and fourteen. I think it is dollars for
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Speaker 10: refusing to allow access to Vicgrid, and if they don't
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Speaker 10: pay it, and if they continue to say we don't
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Speaker 10: want you on our properties, they will be charged and
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Speaker 10: they will be fined twelve thousand dollars. I mean, Ben Carroll.
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Speaker 10: Ben Carroll is new in the job, but I tell
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Speaker 10: you what, it's the same old, same old. Those fines
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Speaker 10: came out four days after he was elected to the
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Speaker 10: role of Premiere extraordinary stuff.
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Speaker 2: And it's all driven, of course by.
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Speaker 3: Labour's obsession with renewables, expensive unreliable renewables, and Chris Bowen
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Speaker 3: yesterday was doubling down on this incredibly putting renewables electricity
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Speaker 3: conditions on AI. Companies who might want to invest in
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Speaker 3: data centers in Australia have a look at this.
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Speaker 11: Our requirements are very clear that data centers must bring
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Speaker 11: their own additional renewables. If they have sensible, firming arrangements
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Speaker 11: with gases part of that, that's fine. I don't envisage
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Speaker 11: it being needed very often, that's the good news. But
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Speaker 11: it'll be important when it is needed. So I think
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Speaker 11: that's a particularly common sense approach that gas can be included,
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Speaker 11: but it must support a clear commitment to new, additional
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Speaker 11: one hundred percent renewables.
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Speaker 3: This is extraordinary, And here you have people big companies
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Speaker 3: wanted to invest big dollars in Australia and help our economy.
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Speaker 3: We need them, we want them instead of saying come
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Speaker 3: in and just use our electricity, we don't have enough,
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Speaker 3: so they have to provide their own.
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Speaker 2: Electricity, but renewable electricity.
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Speaker 3: In the United States, the equivalent companies are actually building
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Speaker 3: nuclear power stations that benefit everyone. This bloke's going to
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Speaker 3: force them to build unreliable renewables.
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Speaker 10: Well, and he doesn't think they're going to need to
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Speaker 10: use gas that often. News flash, Chris Bowen, We're still
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Speaker 10: using sixty percent at least coal every day. I mean,
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Speaker 10: this man is doing more for conservative politics than any
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Speaker 10: other in the Labor Party. I say, keep rattling on
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Speaker 10: with the same agenda, the same ideology, because honestly, they
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Speaker 10: are destroying the country. And the more Australians that realize
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Speaker 10: that and recognize that and how disgraceful it is, the
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Speaker 10: more chance there is that we will have a change
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Speaker 10: of government at the next election.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. On electricity, Alione, it just
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Speaker 3: has to happen soon. They are literally destroying our energy
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Speaker 3: foundation in this country.
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Speaker 2: It's incredible to see it.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, mind you, because this is
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Speaker 3: Chris Bowen and albow and the rest of them think
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Speaker 3: that they can save the planet. At the same time,
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Speaker 3: Chris Bowen doesn't mind flying around the world chugging out
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Speaker 3: the carbon footprint.
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Speaker 2: From his jet plane.
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Speaker 3: To the tune of the last count was three hundred
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Speaker 3: and forty five thousand dollars of taxpayers he spent on
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Speaker 3: his travel.
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Speaker 10: This is outrageous and don't we feel so much holier
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Speaker 10: for him doing that?
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Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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Speaker 10: Three hundred and forty five thousand dollars of taxpayer money.
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Speaker 10: That's a problem in itself. And as you rightly point out,
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Speaker 10: and I was thinking about it today. You know those
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Speaker 10: fumes in the air, well, apparently they don't make any
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Speaker 10: difference to our carbon emissions for those who are really
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Speaker 10: panic stricken about it. It actually is in nice parallel
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Speaker 10: with the fact that this labor government is really happy
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Speaker 10: to export our uranium to India, to export our coal
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Speaker 10: to China, to export our gas to Japan. And yet
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Speaker 10: you know, we can't use the uranium, and they don't
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Speaker 10: want us using the coal, and they are hands tied
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Speaker 10: behind their back, up their back for us to use gas.
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Speaker 10: As Chris says, you know, he doesn't think that will
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Speaker 10: have to use too much of that.
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Speaker 2: It is insane. Thanks for joining us out. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: A little bit of common sense from and Webster there
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Speaker 3: in Madura. I want to go to Overseas News now,
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Speaker 3: and US strikes on Iran are on hold because President
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is saying again that he's giving the regime
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Speaker 3: one last chance to make a deal.
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Speaker 2: Have a listen.
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Speaker 12: I'd rather make a deal because I don't want to
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Speaker 12: kill people. I do not want to kill people, But
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Speaker 12: at some point we're going to We had.
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Speaker 13: We were, we.
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Speaker 12: Were set for the biggest attack of any attack, and
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Speaker 12: we've hit him very hard for the last few months.
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Speaker 12: But we were, we were all set for the biggest
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Speaker 12: attack since World War Two. And they called me and
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Speaker 12: they said, please, don't do it.
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Speaker 13: Let's talk.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Australia's longest serving foreign minister, Alexander down
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Speaker 3: there joining us from his hometown of Adelaide. Alexander, who's
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Speaker 3: more desperate to make a deal here? Donald Trump or
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Speaker 3: the Mullers in Iran.
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Speaker 14: Well, the IRGC rather than the Muller's I think the
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Speaker 14: IGC would like to do some kind.
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Speaker 2: Of a deal.
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Speaker 14: But the great leverage they have continues to be some
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Speaker 14: degree of control over the Strait of hor Moos. So
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Speaker 14: if they give up that, they're left with nothing. I mean,
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Speaker 14: their defense force has been depleted substantially. Their nuclear program
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Speaker 14: isn't likely to go anywhere. So it's the Strait of
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Speaker 14: hor Moos or Busts as far as the IRGC is concerned.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, there are reports late today Trump, Oh sorry, sorry
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Speaker 15: to jump out just there are courts late today suggesting
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Speaker 15: there could be an arrangement that shares control of the
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Speaker 15: Strait of Hormulls between Iran and.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps a coalition of other nations. What do you think
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Speaker 3: about the possibility of that and will that leave too
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Speaker 3: much power still in Iron's hands?
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Speaker 14: Right, it's an international waterway in international law and that
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Speaker 14: should continue to be so. It should revert to the
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Speaker 14: status it had before February the twenty eighth when the
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Speaker 14: war started. And President Trump, I mean, the Americans more
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Speaker 14: generally need to make sure that happens. And I've said
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Speaker 14: on this program quite a few times, they need to
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Speaker 14: get control of the Strait of Homus, not allow the
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Speaker 14: Iranians to control it, or even to control the northern
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Speaker 14: part of it. I mean, apparently they've done some deal
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Speaker 14: with aman that they control the north and the Amanis.
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Speaker 2: Control the south, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Speaker 14: I'm not sure about that. But the Americans need to
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Speaker 14: get this straight of Homu's returned to being an international waterway.
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Speaker 3: Well, I want to get your thoughts on the latest
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Speaker 3: developments in US politics with the US Democrats in their primary,
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Speaker 3: you're electing a new candidate in l say ed pro Palestinian,
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Speaker 3: anti Israel bloke.
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Speaker 2: Here's a little of.
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Speaker 3: What he's had to say in response to criticism from
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump.
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Speaker 16: You know, they think they want to use my whole
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Speaker 16: name against me.
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Speaker 17: Mike, listen, man, if you can't say the name is
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Speaker 17: abd Man, keep the name.
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Speaker 13: Out your damn mouth.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's a little of what Donald Trump has
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Speaker 3: said about him.
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Speaker 12: Hater of Jews and the hater of Israel. This guy
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Speaker 12: hates Jews. Somebody said, oh, that's a little strong. No,
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Speaker 12: he hates Jews and he hates Israel. Filth, crime, death, destruction, embarrassment.
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Speaker 12: You lose your home, you lose your apartment. And that's
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Speaker 12: where the communists will take us one hundred percent. When
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Speaker 12: I watch Abdul, he's full of shit.
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Speaker 3: Strong words there from President Trump. But this is an
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Speaker 3: interesting trend for the Democrats in the US. Alexander on
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Speaker 3: the back of Mayor mum Danni in New York City,
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Speaker 3: hard left candidates and obviously Muslim candidate sympathizing with Palestine
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Speaker 3: and antagonistic towards Israel.
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Speaker 2: Where is all this heading.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think this is a real problem for the Democrats.
22:12
Speaker 14: They're lurching to the left just when the midterms are
22:17
Speaker 14: upon us and they have an excellent chance, particularly in
22:21
Speaker 14: the wake of rising fuel prices gas prices, as they
22:26
Speaker 14: like to say in America, of seizing control not just
22:30
Speaker 14: of the House of Representatives but the Senate. But just
22:34
Speaker 14: as they are on the threshold of that, they've lurched
22:37
Speaker 14: off to the left. And it seems to me they're
22:41
Speaker 14: going to be very vulnerable. That this guy has won
22:47
Speaker 14: what we would call pre selection, has been chosen as
22:50
Speaker 14: the Democrat candidate in the state of Michigan. Now there's
22:55
Speaker 14: a retiring Democrat and so his position will be up
23:01
Speaker 14: for grabs. If the Democrats are going to get control
23:04
Speaker 14: of the Senate, they cannot afford to lose a state
23:08
Speaker 14: like Michigan. And on current polling they are now going
23:13
Speaker 14: to lose the state of Michigan. So this lurch to
23:17
Speaker 14: the left is I think it's suicide for the Democrats.
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Speaker 3: And who are the others in the Democratic camp who
23:25
Speaker 3: can work against that left. It doesn't seem that there's
23:28
Speaker 3: a strong moderate force in the Democrats, either in Washington
23:33
Speaker 3: or even.
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Speaker 2: Around the states.
23:34
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the leading governor like Gavin Newsom,
23:38
Speaker 3: I mean, he's pretty hard left himself.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, but he's not as left as this guy, al sayed,
23:46
Speaker 14: it's not his old Mandami. He's not in the crazy left,
23:52
Speaker 14: as Trump would say, the communist left. I mean, these
23:55
Speaker 14: people are right out there on the far left, Gavin
24:01
Speaker 14: is you know, it's like left like Alberanizi or I mean,
24:06
Speaker 14: he's very much in favor of windmills and taxes and
24:11
Speaker 14: spending taxpayers money and borrowing for the future, all of
24:16
Speaker 14: that sort of thing. That's certainly part of his formula.
24:19
Speaker 14: But he's not crazy left like this guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, extraordinary stuff. Thanks for joining us, Alexander. I appreciate it.
24:28
Speaker 3: The crazy left on the rise in the United States.
24:32
Speaker 3: They're all everywhere.
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Speaker 2: They're on the rise everywhere, and we'll keep an eye
24:37
Speaker 2: on that's for sure. I'm going to get to a break.
24:38
Speaker 3: On the other side, I'm going to share you with
24:40
Speaker 3: you my exclusive interview with it the Palestinian advocate from
24:44
Speaker 3: Gaza who calls out Humas as the real enemy of
24:48
Speaker 3: the Gazan people. I want to go next to that
24:55
Speaker 3: interview I previewed with you last night. Ahmed failed al
24:59
Speaker 3: Katib is a US citizen from Gaza who advocates as
25:03
Speaker 3: a Palestinian Muslim willing to cool out the Islamist extremists
25:08
Speaker 3: of Hummas who run Gaza, terrorize Israel.
25:11
Speaker 2: And have plunged the region into war.
25:14
Speaker 3: Alkatib's monograph Hummas and the two Million Hostages was published
25:19
Speaker 3: last month. I caught up with him in the US
25:21
Speaker 3: and started by asking him about the period when he
25:24
Speaker 3: left Gaza in two thousand and five, when Israel was
25:28
Speaker 3: withdrawing and forcing its settlers to leave, giving Ghazans an
25:32
Speaker 3: opportunity to grasp their own peace and prosperity before Hummas
25:37
Speaker 3: took control.
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Speaker 1: Certainly, yes, there's an immense uncertainty, but immense hope and
25:42
Speaker 1: optimism that Gaza could evolve to be the crown jewel
25:47
Speaker 1: of the Palestinian people. Gaza was overlooking the Mediterranean. It
25:50
Speaker 1: could have a seaport, it could have an airport. Once again,
25:54
Speaker 1: it could become a compelling example of what an occupation
25:58
Speaker 1: free West Bank would look like to show the world,
26:01
Speaker 1: show the Arabs and the Europeans. But fellow Israelis as well,
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Speaker 1: that this is what we seek. We don't seek the
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Speaker 1: annihilation of the Jewish people, but we seek to build
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Speaker 1: a nation for our people to establish prosperity and emancipation
26:18
Speaker 1: from control of the Israeli military, and unfortunately Hamas had
26:23
Speaker 1: another agenda in mind. It manipulated the masses with support
26:29
Speaker 1: from the likes of Al Jazeera, through control of mosques,
26:33
Speaker 1: of the schools, for the infiltration of NGOs. And I
26:37
Speaker 1: write all about all of that in a book I
26:40
Speaker 1: just published a week ago called Hamas and It's two
26:42
Speaker 1: Million Hostages, of how they grew, leveraged the newly what
26:47
Speaker 1: was intended to be in a new pillar of Palestinian
26:51
Speaker 1: political life the two thousand and six elections and instead
26:56
Speaker 1: competed with the idea that they were going to be
26:59
Speaker 1: less corrupt than the Palastinian authority, They were going to
27:03
Speaker 1: be focused on governance, but that they were going to
27:06
Speaker 1: bring the best of non corrupt governance with the resistance agenda.
27:11
Speaker 1: It's important to note that didn't just happen in Gaza,
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Speaker 1: that the elections happened in the West Bank where actually
27:17
Speaker 1: Hamas was more popular in the West Bank than in Gaza.
27:20
Speaker 1: But those were meant to be terms for a few years,
27:25
Speaker 1: and instead what happened was an escalating internal civil war
27:29
Speaker 1: effectively between the PA and Hamas because Hamas refused to
27:33
Speaker 1: adhere to the framework of the elections of renouncing violence
27:37
Speaker 1: and recognizing the Hostlo peace process, recognizing Israel, leaning up
27:41
Speaker 1: to June fourteenth, two thousand and seven, the very day
27:44
Speaker 1: of my asylum interview in the United States, when Hamas
27:47
Speaker 1: violently took over the Gaza strip, ejecting the Palestinian authority
27:51
Speaker 1: and beginning really the long years of blockade of repeated
27:56
Speaker 1: wars with Israel, leading once again all the way to
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Speaker 1: October seventh.
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Speaker 3: You talk about Hamas's two million hostages. That is, all
28:06
Speaker 3: the people of Gaza are their hostages. Hamas reminds an
28:10
Speaker 3: Islamist outfit committed to the elimination of Israel.
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Speaker 2: Are you saying that the two million people in.
28:17
Speaker 3: Gaza are effectively hostages not just to Hamas but to
28:21
Speaker 3: that cause.
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Speaker 1: Well, my goal in that title was very specific and deliberate.
28:28
Speaker 1: So Hamas never, even before October seventh, had anything beyond
28:34
Speaker 1: something like thirty three to thirty five percent support at most,
28:38
Speaker 1: And part of the timing of October seventh was to
28:41
Speaker 1: address the fact that it was deeply unpopular. Its governance
28:45
Speaker 1: and its control in Gaza has produced nothing but misery
28:48
Speaker 1: and suffering. But even amongst the fact that there's the
28:52
Speaker 1: radical there's radicalization in Gaza. There are elements of the
28:56
Speaker 1: society that have either historically supported Hamas, there's some ideological
29:01
Speaker 1: support for for for the group's beliefs and ideology. But
29:05
Speaker 1: also there are those who dislike Humas but believe in
29:09
Speaker 1: the so called arm resistance narrative. And what I argue
29:13
Speaker 1: in my in my text and in a lot of
29:15
Speaker 1: my work and my literature and my writings and my
29:18
Speaker 1: my activities that even those people themselves remain hostages to
29:24
Speaker 1: brain brainwashing, remain captive to an outdated, corrupt ideology that
29:31
Speaker 1: prevents them from seeking anything else that is captive, that
29:35
Speaker 1: has them captured. And so yes, I very much so
29:38
Speaker 1: do believe that the people of Gods that have been
29:40
Speaker 1: hostages to a mutated version of the Palestinian national project
29:46
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with statehood and everything to
29:49
Speaker 1: do with cultism, religious fanaticism and ultimately an agenda of
29:54
Speaker 1: death and destruction and human sacrifice.
29:58
Speaker 2: Explain this to me.
29:59
Speaker 3: The atrocities of October the seventh, the unspeakable violence committed
30:04
Speaker 3: against innocence there. Hamas conducted it, Hummas orchestrated it. Hummas
30:09
Speaker 3: must have known what that would do to the Ghazen
30:13
Speaker 3: people that it would create the sort of military response
30:18
Speaker 3: that we've seen.
30:19
Speaker 2: But also it wasn't only Humas involved in those attacks.
30:23
Speaker 3: Other Palestinian civilians crossed the border and were engaged in
30:27
Speaker 3: that looting and hostage taking. And we've all seen the
30:30
Speaker 3: footage of people in Gaza cheering and welcoming bodies and
30:34
Speaker 3: hostages taken back into Gaza.
30:36
Speaker 2: Explain all that to me.
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Speaker 1: Certainly, I saw the same shameful scenes that you and
30:43
Speaker 1: millions of people around the world did, of the abuse
30:46
Speaker 1: of hostage bodies, the abuse of living hostages, what appeared
30:51
Speaker 1: like euphoria among some people. I mean, seventy percent of
30:54
Speaker 1: Gazans have never left the Gaza strip. They've been isolated.
30:58
Speaker 1: Something like thirty two thirds of the population and Gaza
31:03
Speaker 1: are under the age of thirty, which means that for
31:07
Speaker 1: most of them, they've only known Hamas's rule, they've only
31:10
Speaker 1: known the tiny piece of the territory, they've only known
31:15
Speaker 1: Israelis and Jews through the prism of the conflict, and
31:18
Speaker 1: some of it was seen as almost I hate to
31:22
Speaker 1: use this term, given the deadly horrendous consequences of the
31:26
Speaker 1: October seven it was almost like a day picnic. Some
31:28
Speaker 1: of them they just wereluss. Let's assume that between supporters
31:32
Speaker 1: of Hamas, the participants in celebrations, those who visibly endorsed
31:40
Speaker 1: the October seventh massacre, anywhere between one hundred to three
31:45
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. That still ultimately leaves two million people,
31:49
Speaker 1: of whom the majority are under the age of thirty,
31:53
Speaker 1: who did not participate in the attack, who were not
31:57
Speaker 1: part of Hamas, who are not part of the arm
32:00
Speaker 1: struggle armed resistance narrative. And so that's where I argue
32:04
Speaker 1: that there are tiers of the population. There are tiers
32:08
Speaker 1: of opposition to Hamas, there are tiers of support for Hamas.
32:12
Speaker 1: And it does no one any service if you want
32:14
Speaker 1: to understand Gaza's population to think of them in this
32:18
Speaker 1: carte blanche. They're all Hamas, They're all terrorists, they're all
32:21
Speaker 1: participants in this.
32:22
Speaker 3: The people of Gaza are in dire straits at the
32:25
Speaker 3: moment because of the war deliberately started by Hamas.
32:29
Speaker 2: They need a better future.
32:31
Speaker 3: Who is the bigger threat to the future of Gazans
32:36
Speaker 3: is it Hamas and other Islamist extremist groups all the
32:39
Speaker 3: stide of Israel.
32:43
Speaker 1: Well, I mean on the one like I belome mumble
32:46
Speaker 1: believer in multiple truths. I very much so believe that
32:50
Speaker 1: Hamas and the Islamist groups and the terror groups are
32:54
Speaker 1: a clear and a present existential threat to the people
32:59
Speaker 1: of Gaz. And I'm speaking specifically about Gaza. I think
33:02
Speaker 1: my family would still be alive, tens of thousands of
33:05
Speaker 1: Palasinians would still be alive, most of Gaza would not
33:08
Speaker 1: be destroyed if Hamas had simply made different choices on
33:13
Speaker 1: October seven, kept its fighters at home, came out instead
33:16
Speaker 1: of carrying out the single worst day attack on the
33:18
Speaker 1: Jewish people, said that maybe we actually endorsed the two
33:22
Speaker 1: state solution. We're gonna take all of our weapons and
33:25
Speaker 1: we're just gonna stash them away and not use them,
33:29
Speaker 1: and we're willing to actually work with Israel. I mean, imagine,
33:33
Speaker 1: just imagine if Hamas had done that on October seventh
33:36
Speaker 1: instead of what they did. The first step to empowering
33:40
Speaker 1: the Palastinian people is to restore a sense of agency
33:43
Speaker 1: and responsibility. I used the metaphor of a friend of
33:46
Speaker 1: yours that is driving intoxicated, and a good friend would
33:50
Speaker 1: take the keys away, not pour more liquor. As the
33:53
Speaker 1: friend is about to drive away. And similarly, instead of
33:58
Speaker 1: pushing the Palestinians to say what you did on October
34:01
Speaker 1: seventh is a disaster, we've had a global reaction that
34:05
Speaker 1: unfortunately in academic circles and media circles and journalism and
34:10
Speaker 1: student circles, etc. That are like, well, we can't tell
34:14
Speaker 1: the Palestinians how to resist. This is the result of
34:18
Speaker 1: a nineteen forty eight and a whole host of attempts
34:23
Speaker 1: to justify the unjustifiable.
34:27
Speaker 2: Man, thank you so much for your insights.
34:30
Speaker 13: Thank you.
34:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so right.
34:34
Speaker 3: So many people trying to justify what happened on October
34:37
Speaker 3: the seventh, only feed Hummus, only supports Hummus and their
34:42
Speaker 3: evil agenda. Brilliant stuff there from Ahmed al Katib.
34:47
Speaker 2: Don't forget.
34:47
Speaker 3: Coming up in this program, I'll have the National Cabinet
34:50
Speaker 3: with Mark Nicholson. He's mocked politicians for a long while
34:55
Speaker 3: now he wants to be one. But up next I'll
34:57
Speaker 3: have Mark Robinson with Sport. Well, look at the latest
35:00
Speaker 3: concussion controversy. Don't go away, let's catch up on the
35:07
Speaker 3: weekend sport and cross to sports broadcaster Mark Robinson.
35:11
Speaker 2: Mark good to catch up with you again.
35:13
Speaker 3: I noticed your moonlighting this week on Channel seven's The
35:16
Speaker 3: Front Bar, getting back into the footy world swapping some
35:19
Speaker 3: old war stories.
35:20
Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, it's a bit of fun. It was a
35:22
Speaker 13: bit of fun they invited me on.
35:24
Speaker 1: But save the.
35:25
Speaker 13: Mess for you, Christopher.
35:27
Speaker 2: That was good stuff.
35:27
Speaker 3: Great to hear some of those stories, No doubt you
35:31
Speaker 3: could talk for hours about the stories of your many,
35:34
Speaker 3: many years of footy reporting. And I want to get
35:36
Speaker 3: onto a big AFL story today, and that is a
35:39
Speaker 3: revelation that at the powerful Geelong Footy Club, an unnamed
35:43
Speaker 3: player they say is written into his contract that he
35:47
Speaker 3: takes responsibility really for any outcomes from concussion. Right, he's
35:51
Speaker 3: going to basically wear the risk so that they're not
35:54
Speaker 3: stuck with some sort of claim down the track.
35:56
Speaker 2: What does this mean for the game?
35:58
Speaker 13: No, I mean it's bigger than a big story, mate.
36:00
Speaker 13: This is on the of a scandal. You know, either
36:05
Speaker 13: the player's manager or.
36:07
Speaker 18: The club first proach the idea of putting a clause
36:11
Speaker 18: in his contract. Now, to put a clause in a
36:14
Speaker 18: contract like that to say that if anything happens to you,
36:18
Speaker 18: we're not going.
36:19
Speaker 13: To be liable financially.
36:20
Speaker 18: They knew the player was vulnerable exactly for ever in
36:25
Speaker 18: a day.
36:26
Speaker 19: The AFL says the number one priori is the health
36:30
Speaker 19: and safety of the players. Was the health and safety
36:34
Speaker 19: of this player taken into account when.
36:36
Speaker 13: He said, now I'll play?
36:38
Speaker 20: But should the club and his manager say, hey, hey,
36:43
Speaker 20: we don't think this is a good idea. But anyway,
36:46
Speaker 20: they haven't put the health and safety of the player first.
36:49
Speaker 21: Now, where this goes down the big rabbit hole, Chris,
36:53
Speaker 21: the big rabbit hole. Allegedly it's gone to the board,
36:57
Speaker 21: or reportedly it's gone on the geelonged board.
37:00
Speaker 13: Ticket off.
37:00
Speaker 18: It's already gone for the general manager of football, the
37:03
Speaker 18: CEO the board now the head of the board of
37:06
Speaker 18: the chairman of the board at the time was Craig Grumman.
37:09
Speaker 13: And you know where Craig Grumman is right.
37:11
Speaker 2: Now, He's at headquarters.
37:12
Speaker 13: Of the AFL Commission.
37:15
Speaker 20: Which story breaks like this, you're generally hear from the
37:18
Speaker 20: AFL and maybe the club involved on the day.
37:21
Speaker 13: Nothing as yet, nothing from the AFL.
37:24
Speaker 20: I would imagine this scrambling around dealing with lawyers all day.
37:28
Speaker 13: I'll put it to you this way. That's the political
37:31
Speaker 13: mess and the and the concussion mess.
37:35
Speaker 18: Craig christ if you had a child playing for Geelong
37:39
Speaker 18: and you found out.
37:40
Speaker 21: That your son had signed a waiver in his contract
37:45
Speaker 21: to say, yeah, I know, I've had three or more concussions.
37:48
Speaker 13: I'm a bit vulnerable, but I'm not going to say
37:50
Speaker 13: how would you think? How would you feel about that?
37:53
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it's it is a massive issue.
37:56
Speaker 3: If they have that concerns, then they they know it's
37:59
Speaker 3: not in the best interest of that person to be
38:00
Speaker 3: playing footy and they shouldn't farm that responsibility onto their shoulders.
38:05
Speaker 2: You know how how keen people are to play.
38:08
Speaker 3: It's a big livelihood. There's a lot more than just
38:10
Speaker 3: money in it. But yeah, it's a real worry. It's
38:13
Speaker 3: a real worry. This is such a big issue for
38:15
Speaker 3: all contact sports, especially the tougher ones like a league
38:19
Speaker 3: and Aussie Rules and all the way down to where
38:21
Speaker 3: eye coach in the under thirteens. I tell you we
38:23
Speaker 3: have very serious protocols now around head injuries and it's
38:26
Speaker 3: a this this example from Geelong. Will wait and find
38:30
Speaker 3: out all the facts, but as you say, a scandal
38:32
Speaker 3: there seems to be looming.
38:34
Speaker 2: I want to go to another sport.
38:36
Speaker 3: Does anybody remember this bloke out on the out on
38:39
Speaker 3: the out on the center wicket.
38:41
Speaker 2: That's he got.
38:45
Speaker 4: Pushes of that set beautifully played.
38:47
Speaker 17: Michael Hussey a chanceless century when the chips went out,
38:53
Speaker 17: and that's when it really matters.
38:55
Speaker 3: Michael Hussey there a century against India at the SCG
38:58
Speaker 3: in two thousand and twelve.
39:00
Speaker 2: Just a terrific batsman. I've never met.
39:02
Speaker 3: Him, but I'm told he's an absolutely ripping bloke known
39:05
Speaker 3: as mister Cricket. Mind, you don't tell me he's going
39:08
Speaker 3: to go and teach the Poms out of bat.
39:11
Speaker 13: Isn't it funny?
39:12
Speaker 18: The English they're just finished with Brendan McCallum, so they
39:15
Speaker 18: hire Stephen Fleming, who's highly regarded in the cricket world,
39:20
Speaker 18: and now they're potentially going to hire Mike Hassey. Now
39:25
Speaker 18: I don't disagree that Mike Hassey would be fantastic at
39:28
Speaker 18: the job.
39:29
Speaker 13: You listen to the cricket like I do.
39:31
Speaker 18: Mike Puckey, I think is close to the best technical
39:37
Speaker 18: commentator in the game. When he talks cricket, he talks
39:43
Speaker 18: not emotion.
39:44
Speaker 13: He talks punters another one.
39:46
Speaker 20: But he talks so diligently about how shots book should
39:52
Speaker 20: be played and how the field should be placed.
39:54
Speaker 13: I really enjoy his commentary.
39:56
Speaker 18: But the Poms when the last time they had hamgrown,
40:00
Speaker 18: Oh dear.
40:03
Speaker 2: I think I I you know, I just wondering.
40:05
Speaker 3: You've got to get the best code available. Yeah, but
40:07
Speaker 3: you want somebody who's on board with you. Maybe hass
40:10
Speaker 3: he's uh, maybe he could be a secret plant for us.
40:13
Speaker 2: He could he could be undermining him.
40:15
Speaker 3: Now. I know you do a professional job, but it
40:18
Speaker 3: is an extraordinary Let me just go to a bit
40:20
Speaker 3: of golf and have a look at this.
40:21
Speaker 2: This is the live golf in Adelaide.
40:24
Speaker 3: This is going all the way Jesse Capka twelve.
40:29
Speaker 2: The watering hole is posing. Oh yeah, oh modern golf,
40:45
Speaker 2: a hole in one and beer everywhere. But apparently it's safe.
40:48
Speaker 3: A lot of clouds over over live golf, but a
40:51
Speaker 3: new investor has found and that's very important, especially for Adelaide.
40:55
Speaker 18: Oh, therelad events, fantastic golf and wonder Chris.
40:58
Speaker 13: I don't know if you do.
40:59
Speaker 18: Are all the other live events around the world as
41:03
Speaker 18: engaging as what we see in South Australia.
41:07
Speaker 13: I don't know that.
41:08
Speaker 20: It's to find it was a three hundred and fifty
41:11
Speaker 20: million dollars investor because this out here getting out. Yes,
41:15
Speaker 20: it saves it, but I still think it's obscene prize money.
41:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a.
41:22
Speaker 13: Second tier competition. Now they're going to.
41:25
Speaker 18: Be announcing in the next month who are some of
41:27
Speaker 18: the players that be going into this tour next year?
41:30
Speaker 18: And camp Smith I think committed again, but it is
41:33
Speaker 18: obscene amount of money for a second to competition.
41:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing stuff. Thanks for joining us, Robo. We'll catch
41:40
Speaker 3: you next week. We're going to get to a break
41:42
Speaker 3: after that.
41:43
Speaker 2: I don't catch up with Mark.
41:44
Speaker 3: Nicholson now, he's been mocking politicians for years now he
41:47
Speaker 3: wants to be one.
41:48
Speaker 2: Don't go away.
41:54
Speaker 3: Now we normally call it the National Cabinet, this time
41:56
Speaker 3: on a Thursday with Tim Blair and Martin Nicholson. But
41:59
Speaker 3: Tim Blair is away and Mark last week I joked
42:01
Speaker 3: that you'd have to have all the portfolio has given.
42:04
Speaker 3: You were the only member around for the day and
42:09
Speaker 3: now you're actually going into politics.
42:11
Speaker 2: Quite serious. The start off on the siious.
42:12
Speaker 3: No, you've been identified as one of the One Nation
42:17
Speaker 3: candidates in the Victorian state election.
42:19
Speaker 2: An announcement on Monday. Congratulations, what's driven you to this?
42:25
Speaker 1: Mate?
42:26
Speaker 17: Well, firstly, I was biting my tongue that entire cross
42:29
Speaker 17: we had last week. I just wanted to I just
42:31
Speaker 17: want to scream it at the top of my lungs.
42:33
Speaker 17: But really, mate, it's like we pick on Victoria every
42:36
Speaker 17: single week on this show, and there comes a point
42:39
Speaker 17: where you either are happy to sit idly by on
42:42
Speaker 17: the sidelines, or when the opportunity came, it was step
42:46
Speaker 17: up and join the fight. And I love this state,
42:48
Speaker 17: desperately love this state, so I wanted to wanted to
42:51
Speaker 17: jump in there. I fully believe in one nation in
42:53
Speaker 17: Pauline Anson, so I had to get in there. But
42:55
Speaker 17: I want to say this, mate, don't ever let me,
42:57
Speaker 17: even if I get my seat in parliament, don't ever
42:59
Speaker 17: let me become a bloody politician. That's the key is
43:03
Speaker 17: if you ever catch me using a meally mouthed weasel words,
43:07
Speaker 17: having that dead look in my eye that Ben Carroll
43:09
Speaker 17: and all of them have, if you ever catch me
43:11
Speaker 17: doing that, give me a clip around the ears, because
43:13
Speaker 17: I deserve it and deserve and Victorians deserve better than
43:16
Speaker 17: that as well. So that's why I'm stepping up.
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Speaker 3: We will clip that up and we'll put that in
43:20
Speaker 3: a safe place and make sure we use.
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Speaker 2: It against you if we need to in the future.
43:24
Speaker 2: Let's go to the launch on Monday. Here's some of
43:26
Speaker 2: what Pauline had to say.
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Speaker 7: They have failed the people of this state. That's fights
43:32
Speaker 7: in the situation it is now. So we are here
43:36
Speaker 7: as ordinary Australians setting up fighting for our state, our country.
43:40
Speaker 7: We want it back.
43:42
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So there were among other Upper House candidates, but that
43:48
Speaker 3: leaves about eighty eight candidates yet to come for all
43:51
Speaker 3: the lower House seats around Victoria.
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Speaker 2: When will they be announced because the election's not too far.
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Speaker 17: Off, Wait any minute now, they are just putting the
44:01
Speaker 17: final touches on all of that. You can't you can't,
44:05
Speaker 17: you can't falter it.
44:05
Speaker 2: They know what they're doing.
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Speaker 17: They've they're they're they're building up momentum, they're getting it
44:09
Speaker 17: out there. So it's I'm very excited. We've it's this
44:12
Speaker 17: is going to be a very very different election and
44:15
Speaker 17: one nation. Aren't letting anyone else dictate the way we're
44:18
Speaker 17: going to run this election. This is this is we're
44:22
Speaker 17: really feeling the moment we can have a real opportunity
44:24
Speaker 17: to change Victoria. So and we're we're demonstrating that we
44:28
Speaker 17: can do it.
44:28
Speaker 3: Well, you're you've already become a bit of a front
44:31
Speaker 3: man for One Nation, warming up the crowd and the like.
44:34
Speaker 3: Here you were at Pauline Hansen's One Nation fundraiser later
44:38
Speaker 3: that evening in the Hawthorn.
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Speaker 16: Today is the beginning of the end of the socialist
44:44
Speaker 16: left stranglehold over this state. You've been called the dark forces,
44:52
Speaker 16: the dark forces. What a stark contrast this room is
45:00
Speaker 16: the banshees that are outside. This room is buzzing with optimism,
45:06
Speaker 16: It's buzzing with patriotism.
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Speaker 17: This is by far the best place in Australia to
45:14
Speaker 17: be right now.
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Speaker 2: I was there, it was a good night.
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Speaker 3: We'll go to what was happening outside first, but you've
45:22
Speaker 3: got to You've just got to promise me this and
45:24
Speaker 3: our viewers this.
45:25
Speaker 2: Mate.
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Speaker 3: You've made us laugh over the last few years. You've
45:28
Speaker 3: been the best in the country at mocking politicians.
45:33
Speaker 2: How are you going to keep mocking them? When you are.
45:35
Speaker 17: One mate, never going to stop. It's a hobby of mine.
45:40
Speaker 17: I'm very lucky I've turned a hobby of mine into
45:44
Speaker 17: a business that's not going to go away. And if anything,
45:48
Speaker 17: I think I'm just gonna be able to get more
45:49
Speaker 17: information once I'm in there, once I see how it
45:53
Speaker 17: all operates, I have even more information to exploit for
45:56
Speaker 17: comedy and in the cartoon series.
45:58
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.
45:59
Speaker 17: But don't stress, it's not going away, mate. And with
46:01
Speaker 17: parliamentary privilege, this.
46:04
Speaker 3: Is going to be fun exactly, cartoons formulated with parliamentary privilege,
46:10
Speaker 3: this could be very very special. You referred to the
46:14
Speaker 3: protesters outside of that Evented Hawthorne in your speech there.
46:18
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at this little clip of the protesters.
46:21
Speaker 3: I think I got this on my iPhone on the
46:23
Speaker 3: way in, and listen to what they're saying. Unite, unite
46:36
Speaker 3: to fight the right. Now, I found this amazing. Right, So,
46:39
Speaker 3: for many, many years, you know, they've demonized anyone right
46:42
Speaker 3: of center, you know, you know, John Howard was evil,
46:46
Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan was evil, and they accused Pauline Handstad of
46:49
Speaker 3: being racist or xenophobic or idiotic and all the rest
46:52
Speaker 3: of it.
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Speaker 2: Now they've just cut away. It's just the right. They
46:55
Speaker 2: opposed the other side of politics. Carte blanche.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, you're right, and honestly I meant it when I
47:04
Speaker 17: said it in that speech, and you were there in
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Speaker 17: the room. There was so much optimism.
47:08
Speaker 2: There's so much hope.
47:09
Speaker 17: It's buzzing. Everyone was smiling and happy, stark contrast to
47:13
Speaker 17: what it's like out there. And I remember when I
47:15
Speaker 17: first arrived at Munash University, I walked up to the
47:18
Speaker 17: booth for the Socialist Alternative and I remember looking at
47:20
Speaker 17: them and they were angry, they were sad. I thought
47:22
Speaker 17: they were uncool, uneducated, and unwashed. They're their own worst advertisement.
47:27
Speaker 17: So the more they do this stuff, the more that
47:30
Speaker 17: they turn people against them. And I think it's a
47:32
Speaker 17: good thing because people are seeing them. Pauline's the real deal.
47:35
Speaker 17: We're all happy people and we've got an optimistic outlook
47:37
Speaker 17: for the future.
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Speaker 2: It's great.
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Speaker 11: Well.
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Speaker 3: I met a few people in there that I'll be
47:40
Speaker 3: able to share with the viewers at a later date.
47:43
Speaker 3: One of them was a Sikh gentleman with an astounding
47:47
Speaker 3: His turban was in one nation orange, which I thought
47:51
Speaker 3: was astounding.
47:51
Speaker 2: Another Blake one of the photo with Aus.
47:53
Speaker 3: He's the brother of a very prominent ABC presenter, So
47:57
Speaker 3: there were all sorts in there.
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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. Thanks for joining us, Mark,
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Speaker 2: We'll catch you next week.
48:03
Speaker 3: Mark Nicholson there who's behind the please explain cartoons and
48:07
Speaker 3: also now an Upper House candidate for One Nation in
48:09
Speaker 3: the Victorian state election. Look, we got a lot of
48:11
Speaker 3: feedback from you today regarding Chris Bow and at the
48:14
Speaker 3: Press Club yesterday. Suffice to say you all thought that
48:18
Speaker 3: he was hopeless and that he's promising to destroy our
48:22
Speaker 3: energy grid.
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Speaker 2: Have a good weekend, Peter Kredlin up next.