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Reacting to Ridley reinstatement & Evan tag | Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, March 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to James Drivetime with John Oser and Brian sexted
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  Speaker 1: sixty Jangs Drive Time. It starts right now. Good morning
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: from TIAA Bank Field in Jacksonville. It's time for Jack's Drivetime.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton along with John Osier. After a week away
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  Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, we are back in jackson And about the
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  Speaker 1: time we got done talking about this show, yesterday news
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  Speaker 1: broke that we were anticipating but weren't quite sure when
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  Speaker 1: what was going to happen. So let's lead with that today, John,
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  Speaker 1: and that is the news that Calvin Ridley was reinstated
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  Speaker 1: by the National Football League and he issued this statement
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  Speaker 1: for everybody, and it's just kind of what we thought
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  Speaker 1: it would be. You can't wait to get here. He
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  Speaker 1: wants to show everybody what kind of person and player
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  Speaker 1: he is and that the mistake of the past, the
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  Speaker 1: gambling is over and done with. Sounds like he's just
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  Speaker 1: motivated to be here as his future teammates and coaches
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  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars fan base is to have him here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of anstor over this in the
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  Speaker 1: last few weeks. I got a ton of emails talking
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  Speaker 1: about every day that goes by more and more nervous.
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  Speaker 1: It's always hard to predict the timing of these things
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  Speaker 1: with the Commissioner's office because it is a story that
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  Speaker 1: usually does not have very many sources leaking if you follow,
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  Speaker 1: because it is confined to the Commissioner's office. So if
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  Speaker 1: Goodell doesn't tell people what he's planning to do, then
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  Speaker 1: the Rappapors and the shepherds of the world don't really
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  Speaker 1: get Hey, expect this on a certain date. They get
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  Speaker 1: the news first usually, but there's not a lot of Hey,
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  Speaker 1: the word is it will come down X date. It
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  Speaker 1: made sense, I believed it would be before the start
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  Speaker 1: of the new league year, after the combine, once they
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  Speaker 1: get back in town all that. So, never really anything
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  Speaker 1: to worry about on this in terms of what he brings,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of how I expect him to approach it.
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  Speaker 1: This is a case, Brian, where it seems like maybe
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  Speaker 1: social media was a real positive in the sense that
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  Speaker 1: every time you saw Calvin Ridley talking on social media
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  Speaker 1: from the time that trade happened, it was Jaguars positive.
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  Speaker 1: During the playoff run, you have heard different things about
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  Speaker 1: the kind of shape he's in, So I think Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: fans paying attention. Are right to be excited not only
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  Speaker 1: about the talent, but about the approach of the player.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm assuming we'll find out more coming days and weeks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars knew to some degree that he was
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  Speaker 1: going to be reinstated, or they wouldn't have made that.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't know the time. I had a long time
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  Speaker 1: scouting buddy telling me, hey, look, nobody makes the deal
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  Speaker 1: and gives up draft picks for a player if the
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  Speaker 1: league says, we're not sure about that. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: Timing was the variable there. When would he get back?
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  Speaker 1: It became the reason. It would be before the start
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  Speaker 1: of the new There was no reason to push it back.
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  Speaker 1: You're either going to let him in or you weren't.
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  Speaker 1: Because generally speaking, you know, people think of the league
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  Speaker 1: as this dark figure that it is mean on something
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  Speaker 1: like this. The league wants success stories. But so they
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  Speaker 1: were not going to further punish the player of the
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  Speaker 1: team by dragging this out. You know, if you drag
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  Speaker 1: it into April, you know, thirtieth, say, well, then the
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  Speaker 1: team doesn't know how to draw, you know, what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with the draft. If you push past free agency,
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  Speaker 1: then the team it's fair to the team if you're
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  Speaker 1: going to let the player back, to let him back
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  Speaker 1: so that you can do proper business, especially when it's
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  Speaker 1: been a year that he's been suspended punishment serve. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see what happens next. Well, shortly after they traded for him,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get onto big things. Momentarily shortly after they
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  Speaker 1: traded for him, there were all sorts of players in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room who knew him. They worked out with
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  Speaker 1: him pre draft, they knew him from South Florida. Christian
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  Speaker 1: Kirk him really the least, not the least among them
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  Speaker 1: is Christian Kirk. And Kirk is such a solid guy
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  Speaker 1: that when he speaks it's hard not to take him
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  Speaker 1: completely at face value. When he said he's a good
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  Speaker 1: guy who made a mistake, yeah, and I have not.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Christen briefly about him. I was not around
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson when he talked about him. Understanding is him
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  Speaker 1: and Cam are tighter know each other well from Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: When I'm saying his camp spoke very high him as well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it words in Cam's mouth wasn't there,
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  Speaker 1: But that's my understanding. Everything you've heard Bucky Brooks are Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Medianalyst also has connections with Ridley and knows his people well.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody speaks very highly of his preparation, character, etc. Made
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  Speaker 1: a mistake, has paid for it. Let's see what happens next.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's roll into big things and it all
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  Speaker 1: comes from last week at the Combine where the topic
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  Speaker 1: was Doug and Trent and Charles Davis stopped by your
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  Speaker 1: show last week drive time from Indianapolis to share his
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on your one with the two gentlemen working together,
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  Speaker 1: what Jacksonville did in one season's time, What Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 1: and his staff did in assessing what they were getting
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  Speaker 1: coming in in terms of how to relate to players
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  Speaker 1: and what players needed from them. To start it all off,
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  Speaker 1: they needed a chance to trust this new room and
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  Speaker 1: they did all of that. Now you put all together,
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  Speaker 1: and they've been accumulating talent. Wasn't just last year's draft.
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  Speaker 1: They've been accumulating talent for a while and it's all
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  Speaker 1: paid off. And each of the gentlemen spoke last week
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  Speaker 1: at the Combine, and Doug talked about the heart of
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  Speaker 1: the roster, and that's the locker room. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we got the right guys the right makeup, the chemistry,
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  Speaker 1: the locker room is solid, and those are the things
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  Speaker 1: you build on. You know, that's the momentum that you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about with those guys right there and guys that
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  Speaker 1: have been in Jacksonville, you know, and they've they've kind
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  Speaker 1: of gone through some tough times and now you know,
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  Speaker 1: this past year they got on the other side of that.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's the challenge now of keeping that rolling
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  Speaker 1: as we head into twenty three and from Trent's perspective,
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  Speaker 1: as we turned to big Thing number three, the focus
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  Speaker 1: becomes the draft, which is where the combine is all about,
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  Speaker 1: and it's what the Jaguars are all about now. Close
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  Speaker 1: to the salary cap this year and with the roster
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  Speaker 1: you just heard the head coach say they believe they've
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  Speaker 1: got the right guys through the draft. Now they will
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  Speaker 1: build and find guys to fill in gaps where they
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  Speaker 1: need them and help build this thing. Well, the benefits
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  Speaker 1: are you get a chance to keep a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good football players, and you know, at some point most
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  Speaker 1: teams in the league have had to do that. If
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  Speaker 1: you look at then, I think there's only one team
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  Speaker 1: that hasn't pushed any money out into future years. You
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  Speaker 1: just got to be very diligent in the decisions that
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  Speaker 1: you make and who you make those decisions. Four. So
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  Speaker 1: tread Ballky talking about using the salary cap to keep
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  Speaker 1: players but having to use the draft to go and
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  Speaker 1: find new players. In short, John, last weekend Indian out
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  Speaker 1: was a different experience covering the draft then you've had
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  Speaker 1: with the number one draft picked the last couple of years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time. It feels like maybe
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, which makes sense because you won, was the
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  Speaker 1: last time you really had a a newsless offseason. And
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: I say, there's obviously news, but in terms of not
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  Speaker 1: building up to a big splash. In nineteen you had
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foles. In twenty you were releasing a lot of guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or trading a lot of guys, but then
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  Speaker 1: active in free agency the last couple of years. We've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about it all year that this was coming
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  Speaker 1: a quieter, more maintaining free agency period. It's what you
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  Speaker 1: have to have. And I think um Trent would probably
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  Speaker 1: laugh when he said not spending very much money, because
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  Speaker 1: they're spending money on their own guys, and they're restructuring
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  Speaker 1: guys means they paying out signing bonuses. They're trying to
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  Speaker 1: get a deal done with Evan Ingram that we be signing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, teams can be active in freedency and active
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  Speaker 1: over other people's players. You're still trying to win, You're
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  Speaker 1: still trying to do it, but the reality is you
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  Speaker 1: can't live long term and have any continuity doing what
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  Speaker 1: they've done the last couple of years. I mean, Trent
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  Speaker 1: ball could be the first to say the approach of
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years was by necessity and because
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  Speaker 1: there was no other choice. The remarkable thing, Brian, is
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  Speaker 1: that they managed to build what feels like a core
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  Speaker 1: doing it that way, that's very rare. But you've got
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  Speaker 1: to pull off of that and get into what they're doing. Now, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we should touch on the fact that it was reported
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  Speaker 1: last week that the Jaguars were going to be willing
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  Speaker 1: to use the franchise tag on Evan Ingram. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: Trent balk You said that at his season ending press
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  Speaker 1: conference in January, and today we know that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to apply the tag. It's the deadline, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: the deadline to get a deal done, a long term,
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  Speaker 1: cap friendly deal. They've got plenty of time to get
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  Speaker 1: that done. July fifteenth is the deadline for that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you wonder, and they understandably don't talk about this publicly.
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  Speaker 1: If you get a long term deal done with Evan Ingram,
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  Speaker 1: then you can bring that initial cap figure way down
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  Speaker 1: from the eleven million. I don't know exactly why it
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  Speaker 1: helps you if you want to try to get you
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  Speaker 1: On Taylor done, which is why there's probably a conservative
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  Speaker 1: effort to get that done in the next week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then with Juwan Taylor, the cap figure if they
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  Speaker 1: franchise and would be eighteen. It doesn't feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: in the water to do. But if you get a
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  Speaker 1: long term deal done, it's very possible you get both
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  Speaker 1: cap figures low enough in the initial and then start
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  Speaker 1: pushing stuff out. There's going to be decisions down the
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  Speaker 1: road based on these things. But for right now, I
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  Speaker 1: think they're in good shape. It's just a matter can
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  Speaker 1: they make the Juwan Taylor deal get done. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: feeling it, but we'll see. And everything, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: is filtered through the lens of the quarterback, who they
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  Speaker 1: can redo after next season. And when I say I'm
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  Speaker 1: not feeling what Juan I think they want him back. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everybody would love him back. I'm just saying in terms
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  Speaker 1: of getting it done that it's tricky because many talks.
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  Speaker 1: If you're Juwan, you're interested in what the market bears,
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  Speaker 1: because offensive tackles are among the highest paid players in
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League in recent seasons. Right, we'll take
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  Speaker 1: a break, John and JP. We're in Indianapolis. Last week
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  Speaker 1: they talked to a number of folks and we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about what they said and what they're saying with Jags
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  Speaker 1: drivetime returns, he can be better, you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: that's the challenge that we'll have for him when he
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  Speaker 1: gets back in in April, and and I know that'll
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  Speaker 1: be the challenge that he'll put on himself to play
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  Speaker 1: and be a better, you know, version of himself moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: When you talk about the Jaguars, he begins right there,
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  Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Lawrence. And I'm sure last week that's all
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  Speaker 1: anybody wanted to talk about when a national perspective they
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: sat down with you. Yeah, and that's the reality of
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing, as everybody fillles league understands, as they
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  Speaker 1: as they build this roster and go out into the future,
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: right now, it's sort of about everything in Trevor. In
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years, it's going to be about Trevor
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  Speaker 1: and everything. If you follow me, it'll be Trevor first,
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  Speaker 1: and then at some point Trevor has to become it's
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  Speaker 1: almost not fair to ask this yet, but with the
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  Speaker 1: cap you have to do it. At some point it
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: will become a situation where just like in Kansas City,
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  Speaker 1: it's Patrick Mahomes one key player in Travis Kelsey, maybe
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  Speaker 1: another on defense, but then everything else starts getting very
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  Speaker 1: mental around the quarterback. And you've got to have superstar
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  Speaker 1: quarterback with a roster of support that he can lift.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're looking for a reason to believe in
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: that the Chiefs won the Super Bowl the same year
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: they traded Tyreek Hill right who led the NFL in
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  Speaker 1: receiving yards, it's it's not I mean, it doesn't sound easy,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not an easy thing to ask, and not
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  Speaker 1: every quarterback can do it. Trevor has the game, the personality, etc.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, you know that will be a difficult and
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  Speaker 1: that will become the storyline as time goes forward. You
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: can't not talk about Trevor Lawrence. It's interesting the perspective
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  Speaker 1: was what a remarkable change from one year to the other,
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  Speaker 1: and just interesting how that became such a given in
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  Speaker 1: one year questions last year. Now, there's no question in
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  Speaker 1: anybody's mind that this kid is a franchise player. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with Greg Koshell, who stopped by and visited
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  Speaker 1: with you last week, and his thoughts on the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: young franchise signal caller. I learned years and years ago
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  Speaker 1: from Dick Vermeil, and he said that when you draft
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback number one, the entire organization, and he's talking
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  Speaker 1: about the janitors, he's talking about everybody in the organization,
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  Speaker 1: the objective has to be to make that guy a
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  Speaker 1: great player. And clearly that was the approach they took
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  Speaker 1: this year. They did some really good things with him
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  Speaker 1: that help he needed to be sped up. He was
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  Speaker 1: very deliberate and everything he did. He's a big kid
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  Speaker 1: who's a long strider, so you need to shorten his strides,
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  Speaker 1: you need to quicken his job, quicken his set, quicken
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  Speaker 1: his delivery. And when you combine that with the nature
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  Speaker 1: of the offense, which is more quick rhythm throws, that
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  Speaker 1: had to all work together and They did a masterful
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  Speaker 1: job with that. When you look at that position and
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  Speaker 1: how long the Jaguars had been working to find something
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  Speaker 1: that they could believe him. Go back to Blake Gabbert,
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  Speaker 1: who they took number nine overall in two thousand and eleven,
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  Speaker 1: or Blake Bortles they took number three overall in two
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  Speaker 1: and fourteen. They never got to where this kid is
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  Speaker 1: right now, which is all right, we have our quarterback. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think the intriguing thing is and I believe then it.
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  Speaker 1: Believed in it a long time before Doug started talking
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  Speaker 1: about it. But once Doug started talking about it, it
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  Speaker 1: just felt like there's almost no way it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. The improvement that's expected from Trevor next year
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  Speaker 1: with the second year in Peterson's offense, the second year
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  Speaker 1: working with these guys meaning Christen kirk Evan, Ingram Zay Jones,
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  Speaker 1: and they bring really into the mix. I think next
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  Speaker 1: year we have a chance to have a very good
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  Speaker 1: gauge over what he will really be. Right now, we
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  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be great. We think we know what
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  Speaker 1: it looks like, what level can he reach. I think
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  Speaker 1: we'll have a much better sample size next year after
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: you see him in the second year in this offense,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, I would say, think about the difference
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  Speaker 1: between the first half the season and the second half
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  Speaker 1: the season, and then multiply that difference with the ability
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  Speaker 1: to have an offseason where you're thinking about the offense,
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  Speaker 1: You're taking things out, putting things in muscle memory, all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. Next year is the gage year to me,
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  Speaker 1: and it helps to have a familiarity to have Zay
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  Speaker 1: Jones and Christian Kirk and Travis Etn and Evan Ingram.
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  Speaker 1: And the thought all along was he wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to go anywhere this next year. The Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: were looking to lock him up. As you know now
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  Speaker 1: they have applied the franchise tag, and last week Charles
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  Speaker 1: Davis stopped by and visited with J. P. Shadrick. All
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  Speaker 1: things being equal, why would you want to be anywhere
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  Speaker 1: or else? Just had the best year of your career.
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  Speaker 1: You have a young quarterback there, you got a coach
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  Speaker 1: and the staff that believes in you. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: think this is the place to be, well, if someone
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  Speaker 1: comes from crazy offer, I get all that, I'm not
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I don't deal with people's money that's their issue. I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it again, all things being equal, this is
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  Speaker 1: the spot for him where he can continue to blossom.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I didn't think it was a coincidence
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  Speaker 1: that one of the biggest plays of the entire season
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  Speaker 1: was his touchdown catch at the end of the first
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  Speaker 1: half against the Chargers. And you see that look in
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  Speaker 1: his eye as he sits there on the field, and
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  Speaker 1: that's the spark. In fact here it is right now,
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  Speaker 1: the spark that got the well, that was the one
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  Speaker 1: end up in September, but it got him back into
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  Speaker 1: for a night. Yeah, it got him back into the game.
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  Speaker 1: And he's just that intense player. And to have the
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  Speaker 1: relationship with the quarterback and both of them want to
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  Speaker 1: work together another year. John, to get Evan Ingram back
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  Speaker 1: is as important as any step I think this team
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  Speaker 1: takes this office. You know, the insight I can give
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  Speaker 1: is it was so striking getting to know Evan a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and a learning his sincerity about wanting to
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  Speaker 1: be here. And all most players at the end of
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  Speaker 1: seasons where they're free agents, they'll usually say they want
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  Speaker 1: to come back to a place because they're talking to
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  Speaker 1: the media. It's very rare for a guy to come
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  Speaker 1: out say I don't want to be here. This place stint.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even when the Jaguars were struggling at times,
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  Speaker 1: you heard players say Evan clearly wanted to be here.
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  Speaker 1: You saw the connection that he had with guys in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room. I don't know if he said this
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  Speaker 1: per se, but in conversations I had with him, I
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  Speaker 1: got the impression his experience in New York was difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I think that made him appreciate his experience here more.
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  Speaker 1: He's a very thoughtful kid, understands now the NFL after
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  Speaker 1: being in it for a long time, so there's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt he wanted to be here. The interesting story from
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  Speaker 1: the Sandy or the Los Angeles game. I remember talking
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  Speaker 1: to him afterward, right after the game, and he said, basically,
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  Speaker 1: when they're down twenty seven nothing, he just said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna play every play as hard as I
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  Speaker 1: can't leave it all in the field and see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: And then he looked around and saw other teammates doing that,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and it just sort of built on that. I don't
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: want to say Evan was the reason for that comeback,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: but I think that attitude in his approach in that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: game sort of shows how much he fits here, if
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you will, and how much he's about what they're doing here.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So bringing Evan Ingram back with Kirk with Zay Jones
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to give that familiarity in the year number two in
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson system. And then there's this lightning bolt named
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, who, as we told you off the top
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of the show and you probably already knew, was reinstated
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: by the league yesterday. Sint To Freeland from the NFL
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Network offered her thoughts last week during Jags drivetime. So
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: if you're adding a guy like Calvin Ridley, who since
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: his days at Alabama was a pristine route runner, it's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it's so reliable, Like and I say that in like
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the sexiest way possible, right, Like, it's it's great to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: know exactly where your wide receiver is going to be
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: at the moment that you need him to be there. Yeah,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that's India made a good point with that, and I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: think that above anything else, is where as soon as
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: he gets used to this Ovince. I don't know if
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: it'll be there the first game, but on third and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: six there were moments last year where Trevor Lawrence. It
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: felt like he had that rapport with Christian Kirk. I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: knew exactuary was going to be and I thought in
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: two twenty two off season that was a huge reason
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: for bringing Kirk in, to give him a reliable weapon
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that he could trust. You had one more into that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I see he doesn't have it with Za Jones and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, but it was special with Christian all season.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Give you one more guy like that all you know
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: they were good on third manageable last year. You become
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: great in those situations. The difference in points, All of
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you get four to six more points a
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: game out of that. That's a huge difference. Now you're
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: in Kanada City territory. Yeah, and in twenty eight twenty
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: nine points a game. I don't want to put him
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: at that level yet. But they have as many weapons.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It would see. There are weapons. And that's why I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: say this this jump this third the year, the second
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: year under Peterson, you could be sitting on sentence specially.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I think they have the weapons now. The offensive line
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: has to take it up a notch. If you watch
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that Kansas City game over and over, like I have,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you see that the interior three of their offensive line
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: dominated the point of attack once Mahomes got injured in
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. But there's a lot of reason to believe
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: that with the weapons they've got, they can do something
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: like that. All right, when we come back, we'll dive
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: into the Ozone mail Bag. We call it ozone Snapshot
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: here on Jags Drive Time on a Tuesday morning in March,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: leading up towards the beginning of the new league year
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: next week. We're back right after this this friendly welcome
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: back to Jags Drive Time. Brian Sexton, John Osier from
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: TIAA bank Field in Jacksonville. Time for the ozone Mailbag,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and we'll go right to a question Howard from Homestead,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: who wants to talk about Juwan Taylor's contract and wondering
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: if it wouldn't be the tougher one to negotiate. Why
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: they didn't use the salary cap and the franchise tag
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to help them with that. Yeah, and it's always tough
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: because the details of these negotiations aren't something we're privy too,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: so you sort of assume certain things. The reason they
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: don't use the tag on Juan Taylor's there's a big
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: difference between eighteen point three million and an eleven point
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: three million or eleven million, whatever Evan Ingram's number is,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: that's seven million when you're trying to work it under
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the cap means a great deal. I think they want
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor back. I think realistically they knew that a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: tight ends contract and a tight ends cap number makes
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: more sense in what they're trying to do. They love
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: them both back, but you have to make a choice
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in these things. And the more palpable cap number was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the eleven million. And just to underscore that, you mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it's more palpable in case they sign it and have
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to play under it, right, because you can. If you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: could renegotiate Evan Ingram and get him down from eleven, great,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: But if you can't, and that seems to be one
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: that's much easier to do. But if Juan Taylor hits
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: a snag and his contract negotiations all the way up
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to Jedly fifteenth, then all of a sudden you got
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to sit on eighteen point one. It's that's where it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: really becomes tricky. Also a little bit of an element
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: here of you know, you have Walker Little on the roster,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and that's why you drafted him. And so if you
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: don't really have Evan Ingram like thing on the roster
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: beyond that, you can draft it, but it's more unknown. So,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: by the way, there's never one factor that comes into
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: play here, even though people always want cutting dry answers
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and they're talking about keeping the core together, but you
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: don't always get to do that. And at some point
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the reason that you draft Walker Little is because you
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: understand that you've got two tackles, one of whom you
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: might not be able to keep. That's what drafting develop is. Okay,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Joan's going to one night ten million bucks a year.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: We've got to pay the quarterback. We've got Walker Little,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: he's going into year three. It might not work that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: way this year, but you always have to have those
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: jars on the shelf, guys that are ready to step
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in and play when you have to let free agents
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: go onto Our second question, and this one from box
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: cutter Bill, since a little sarcasm here, just look like
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: we'll be getting at least one compensatory pick that all
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the fans have been clamoring for. I hope we use
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it to draft the punter of the future. I think
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: what he's saying is don't let Juan Taylor go here.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Who cares about a compensatory pick? Yeah, and it's sometimes
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: hard to tell with box cutter Bill Zach who is
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: getting that. But that's my impression of it. Compensatory picks
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for people who don't really know how it works. You
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: will get a compensatory pick. Say you lose Joan Taylor
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and don't pursue any other free agents, then your compensatory
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: formula is such that you probably get a pick at
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the end of the third round next Yeah. Right, so
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it's become sort of a big deal. I think people
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: associate compensatory picks with being a good team. My sense
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: is it's a little more of a I don't know
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: that you become a good team because of compensatory picks.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I think good teams typically get compensatory picks. If you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: follow me, it helps with salary cap and roster manager. Well, yeah,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and you get them because you're performing well and you
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: have drafted and developed. Well, give me a choice. I've
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: always thought the actual selection was a little overrated. And
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: when I say that, I mean you're giving up Juwan
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Taylor in this scenari I don't know if you're gonna
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: gi up Johan Taylor. But say you give a Juwan
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Taylor and your reward is a third round pick, Well,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: if you put both those on the table, I'm gonna
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: take Juwan Taylor because you know what the third round pick,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: because I know what it is. Now, if you're really
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: good drafting, you can turn that into something. But usually
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you get the third round pick for a player who's
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: been he's and pay like a first round guy. So
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: let's just not do so much celebrating of compensatory picks.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: The reason they're good is it usually shows you have
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: drafted well and had been in a position to allow
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: players to leave. It's a result of being good. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: don't know if it makes you good. Two quick thoughts
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: on that one. It used to be that compensatory picks
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: were where they were and you had to use them.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Now you can trade them right. That gives you a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: little more flexibility. And Tom Brady was a compensatory pick,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: so you can find great players. But that speaks to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: what you were talking about, and that is you have
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to use them wisely and draft. Well. That'll do it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: for ozone snapchat snapshot. When we come back, we'll take
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a quick look at one more piece of business from
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Indie that kind of poor tends towards Arizona and the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: NFL owners meetings coming up in a couple of weeks.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Back after this. To finish up Jags Drive Time, Well,
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• 26:07
  Speaker 1: on Jags Drive Time with Brian and John next week
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: started the new league year week after maybe two weeks
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: after owners meetings in Arizona, and I thought it was
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: an interesting conversation that you had on three key issues,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and here they are coming up at the owners meetings
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: from the competitory part of me competition committee. That's the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: viability of that rugby style scrum where you're pushing the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: quarterback from behind the emergency quarterback as we found out
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: during that playoff game in between Buffalo and Miami and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and of course San Francisco as well. And then the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: roughing review. These are three issues. Did you get any
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: sense talking to people last week on where these are
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: going to come out. Yeah, well a little bit. The
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: rugby south scrum is it is the Eagles player pushed
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. I'm surprised that it hasn't come to this already.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It used to be you couldn't push from behind right,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden that rule went away
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: one year and I wasn't even aware that he'd gone away,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you saw people doing it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I think the league will do something to prevent that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: because of the potential for injury. It's not as extreme
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: as the onside kick with collision, but they don't like
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: when you set up a Basically the way to stop
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a rugby style strum is to get a bunch of
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: people on the other side and have high contact. They
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: won't like that for a safety issue more than anything else,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I think, so I'd be surprised if that lasts much longer.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: The emergency quarterback, I think there's a big sentiment where, yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: there was a little bit of complaining after that, but
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you can keep a third quarterback if you want so.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Shame on the forty nine ers for not having it,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and I don't mean to throw them out as the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: only team that does that, but if you don't recall
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in the AFC part of the NFC Championship game they
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: were down too, they couldn't do anything right, But okay,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: third quarterback got hurt. So now you're making a rule
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to protect teams from themselves. Yeah, I think most people
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: in the league would say, we have the ability to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: keep a third, let's just do it. And then the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: last one, the roughing the pastor I think it's the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure who proposed it, but there's a pose
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: on the table and make roughing the past the reviewable.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Kansas City was hit on that after the Chris Jones play.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's as pointless as making past
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: interference reviewable because they did a couple of years back,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and it still comes down to judgment somewhere. You're moving
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: judgment on the field to the booth. Somebody's still going
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to make a call on it. So I didn't sense
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that there's very much movement once you get that into
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: competition committee. Teams sometimes push for things where the competition
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: committee are people who deal with rules all the time
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and they know how it really plays out. If you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: make that rule, review will meaning ref in the pastor
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you are not going to solve the controversy issues, and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you're not any closer to actually getting it right because
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you still have somebody in the booth trying to make
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: a decision that's a judgment call, So I doubt that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: gets changed. Things to follow from the owners meetings coming
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: up at the tail end of March. That'll do it
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: for Jags Drivetime on a Tuesday morning. Happy Hour comes
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: your way on Thursday at four o'clock with J. P.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Shadwick and Jeff Loghman. Have a great day, everybody,