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Happy Gut Happy Life with Robin Thomas · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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  And functional nutrition and practical and all the rest of it
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  without throwing anything out. Do you believe that if a person
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  is going to eat well and they're going to actually, you know,
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  feed their body in a way that's going to, you know, really help
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  balance their hormones and, and all of those systems, is this
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  going to also help with inflammation?
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  Because inflammation is definitely the big thing.
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  I mean, it happens in people's brains, It's happening in
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  people's, you know, bodies, their immune systems, everything
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  is, is it going to actually assist with that?
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  Absolutely it will. The one of the things that for
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  nutrition there's two, there's macro nutrition and
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  micronutrition, two different things.
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  People think mostly of the macro nutrition.
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  They say, well, I get enough car, I get this many carbs, I
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  get protein, you know, I need, you know, these things in the
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  macro and they look in the big picture.
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  That's important for your gut. One of the things is the most
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  important for your gut is it likes to eat fiber, it likes to
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  eat a variety. Your microbiome likes to help
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  with a variety of different fruits and vegetables, most a
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  lot of different vegetables. And when you eat the same thing
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  every day, I know people who do that.
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  I'm even married to one who tends to like to eat the same
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  thing. I keep telling him we need to do
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  something different, do something different.
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  Try a new vegetable because it's that variety which is fabulous,
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  fabulous. And so trying new things, that's
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  one way to look at it. And that help will help the
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  inflammation in helping balance the bacteria, the microbiome.
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  Now micro nutrition is another thing.
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  When we were hunter gatherers, we would, we often in a lot of
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  cultures choose herbs, bitter herbs are things to add.
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  So it's really wonderful to add herbs and spices to your meal.
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  These herbs actually do more than just give you nutrition.
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  They, a lot of research has gone into this and I was proud to be
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  part of the little beginnings of it in the in the inflammation
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  lab I was in. But specific plant nutrients and
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  in specific ratios in small amounts can actually help
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  processes our body work better. And now that sounds outlandish,
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  but it's not outlandish. It actually works.
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  They have found there's you talk about all the pathways in the
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  body and how amazing the body is with all the different pathways
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  and the communication going on in the body.
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  Well, these plants help the communication work better.
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  They help encourage. Can I give an example?
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  Please. OK, so we were talking about
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  inflammation and we're talking about gut health.
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  And the reason gut health is important is a is a like
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  dysbiosis. A gut that's not healthy
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  increases inflammation significantly.
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  But anti note, most people don't know that in our bodies there
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  are cells, lots of cells of our body.
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  My name is Terry Messenger. Hey, hey, hey.
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  And welcome. Welcome to Terry Messenger's
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  genius Zion. And you know, this is the place
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  in the space where you are going to get your own free master
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  class. Absolutely free.
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  None. Hey, hey, hey, and welcome to
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  this week's edition of Terry Messenger's Genius Zone.
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  So this is where we bring in people that have had life
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  experiences, they've had knowledge, and they have
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  developed their purpose and their passion through what
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  they've lived, what they've breathed.
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  And they are going to share that like a free master class with
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  you. And today is about having a
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  healthy gut and a healthy life and connecting yourself with
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  your greatest sense of health and vitality and lifestyle so
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  that you can be your greatest self.
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  Now this lady that I'm about to bring on, she was involved in
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  the medical field as a medical researcher where she focused on
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  inflammation studies, enrolling patients, analysing how
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  inflammation drives disease. Now, this is probably one of the
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  biggest problems that we have actually in the world.
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  Every disease probably has a some kind of a cell about it
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  that reflects inflammation. So her professional world
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  shifted dramatically. And then she also had the
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  experience of her own son, who was diagnosed with type 1
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  diabetes. Now this lady has definitely
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  developed a purpose and a passion through what she has
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  been through through watching what happened to her son.
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  You may be very interested to find out how your gut can be
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  also controlling your moods and how it can starve the brain when
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  it's not treated well. It can cause panic, anxiety,
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  depression, and you are going to find out some very, very helpful
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  tips and tricks, just as I have by listening to this incredible
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  woman. So with no further ado, I give
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  you the wonderful Robin Thomas. Hello Robin, how are you?
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  Hello I'm doing fine, doing well.
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  Awesome, and whereabouts are you?
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  I'm in Chapel Hill, NC in the United States and it's early
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  morning here. It was indeed, it's still dark
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  and yet it's dark here because I'm at night, so I'm on the
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  other side of the world. So, you know, being a medical
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  researcher, you got to really see up close and personally
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  about, you know, what inflammation was doing to
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  people. And I know that there is a lot
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  of talk around this. And then, of course, you have
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  the experience that must have been quite tragic with your son
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  and, you know, what happened to him.
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  So can you just go through that and what happened to his brain
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  as a result and what that meant for him as a result of him
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  suffering from a lot of inflammation and a lot of things
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  that do stem from the gut and, you know, obviously diabetes?
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  Absolutely. I my son actually is now 35 but
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  he was only 17 months when he was diagnosed with type 1
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  diabetes. And at that time, my Co workers
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  actually were helping, helping work through that diagnosis.
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  But at that time, they didn't know how important it was to to
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  keep babies on insulin, to be very cautious with it.
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  Because what happened is they wanted his blood sugars to stay
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  very, you know, low normal. That's what they wanted.
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  But in doing so he ended up the insulin pulled all the glucose
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  from his from his brain or not all but a lot of it and in
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  different aspects of low blood sugars starved his brain and and
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  he ended up without a short term memory.
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  He can get the long term. But he has no short term memory,
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  so that was sort of the initial. Yeah.
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  And you say that it also had an effect on his moods and the fact
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  that his gut, you know, because obviously, as I said to you
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  backstage, you know, hindsight is 2020 vision.
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  And as a medical researcher and someone who knows what you know
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  and really taps into bringing in the right people and the right
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  experts to help people, I feel that this is gonna be so
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  important because there's people out there that are suffering
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  from, you know, depression, anxiety, panic attacks.
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  And there's people that are suffering autoimmune diseases.
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  There's people that are like my husband who are in a now fatally
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  critical disease that I mean, I could almost put it down to
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  perhaps something what you have spoken about because he's got a
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  sporadic version of CJD now. I didn't tell you that.
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  So that means he's in a fatally critical position.
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  And the whole thing is we are doing exactly what you're going
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  to be sharing on this show in terms of lifestyle, in terms of
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  looking after his gut. And there is no cure to CJD.
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  However, he is a miracle every single day.
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  And I'm wondering how many diseases could be prevented
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  because his did start. He was also a diabetic.
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  And it's quite interesting how you say that your son's brain
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  was starved from oxygen. And as a, you know, as a result,
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  that has led him to a brain injury.
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  So I think there's too much of this actually happening in our
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  world. So, you know, why is the gut so
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  important? You, you know, you, you talk
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  about it being the gut brain. And I know that I certainly have
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  heard about, you know, the head brain, the heart brain and the
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  gut brain. And why is the gut so important?
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  Well, the gut has so, so many. It has a microbiome.
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  So we have. The gut has organisms.
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  We have microbe, small tiny microbe organisms living in our
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  gut and it depending on what ones are living there, they
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  either can help damp down inflammation or or they increase
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  and increase inflammation significantly.
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  So it's the microbiome actually helps with hormone regulation,
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  it helps with the immune system and, and with through the vagus
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  nerve. It does have a connection to the
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  brain. And that's why when you when
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  your gut is not healthy, then this anxiety and this panic
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  feeling comes up. Now, who would have even known
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  that that's walking around today taking antidepressants and and
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  wondering why they feel so bad. You know, I haven't heard of a
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  doctor that has actually said, you know, you need to look after
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  your gut to get rid of, you know, that's gonna make such a
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  huge difference. And you know, I do wanna say to
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  our listeners as well that there is definitely a collaboration
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  with medical versus the other integrative element that you
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  believe in. And I think that that really
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  makes for a really healthy and practical way forward for people
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  that are suffering illness because we are certainly not
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  telling anyone on this show to to cease seeing your medical
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  practitioners. Robin was clearly a deep
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  researcher of that. Let's talk about the vagus nerve
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  because you did put a lot of emphasis on this.
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  And you know, I don't think people are aware of this enough.
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  And that communication bridge between the gut and the brain.
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  So how does that work? So the vagus nerve is, is starts
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  like at the base of your brain back here and goes down to and,
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  and is connected to the gut too. So it's a direct communication
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  between the brain and the gut. And I know there's different
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  ways to approach healing. There's the direct approach
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  healing the gut, which is going to help the vagus nerve and help
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  the brain that's going to help. And it also can goes the other
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  way. You can help help the gut heal
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  by helping stimulate the vagus nerve.
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  And there's there are different massages people can do vagus
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  nerve or met practices like meditation helps.
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  And then one is my favorite is for me, going out in nature
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  helps. So there's just ways to think
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  that would calm you is going to help your gut health too.
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  And the ways that we're going to talk about lifestyle, ways that
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  can heal, help heal your gut is going to help that vagus nerve
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  help calm your brain. That's so interesting.
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  You know, I feel like there's this very spiritual
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  communication between my husband and myself 'cause he, he's non
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  verbal so, well, he's non verbal now.
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  I mean, he was a really good communicator before he was a
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  chiropractor. But interestingly enough, I tend
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  to shadow what he used to do. And he used to deal with the
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  vagus nerve with his patients a lot.
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  It's a shame he didn't go to see himself a little bit more often.
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  But one of the things that I am, you know, doing with him is I'm
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  stimulating that part right there because I know that's
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  where he placed a lot of emphasis with his own patients.
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  And obviously, you know, getting that stimulated.
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  And I can see that even though he can't speak, I can see his
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  face and his eyes literally light up, you know, when I am
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  actually massaging that part. So tell me about the fact that
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  the three brains, as Megan Rossi says in her book, A Happy gut is
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  a Happy life. And you've obviously studied
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  this. And this is something that you
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  know, you, you are a great ambassador for.
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  But she says the three brains, being the head, the heart and
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  the gut, are in constant communication through neural and
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  biochemical pathways. Can you talk us through?
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  That isn't the body wonderful. It's just an absolute.
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  There's so many different pathways in the body and it, it
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  talks to itself. Every cell in your body talks to
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  another part. You know it, it just goes along.
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  Not just for the neurons like the vagus nerve neurons, but
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  even other ways. There's other ways chemically.
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  And when I mean chemically, I don't mean people think of
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  chemicals. I think chemicals are bad.
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  No, I mean every single thing you have around you, everything
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  you eat, you know, food is in my mind, scientific mind, a
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  chemical. So there's different ways that
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  they talk to each other. And that's important.
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  That balance is what's important.
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  The heart and the gut and the brain, they all need each other.
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  You know, this the, the, these types of brain, you call it the
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  gut brain. Really, it's an awful lot of how
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  it, how it helps our brain think because it has to be healthy for
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  us to be able to function well. And and then all these different
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  lifestyle choices is what helps these talk together.
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  So when people are wanting to be smarter or calmer or clearer or
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  have more clarity, you tell them to go and deal with the gut
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  microbiome so that it can come into balance.
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  But can you talk to me a little about the microbiome?
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  Because you were you were speaking about this backstage
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  and obviously it's all terminology.
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  But apparently when the gut microbiome is out of balance, it
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  actually triggers panic attacks, anxiety and low mood and
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  disrupts hormonal balance and metabolism, as you have already
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  told me. So can you talk me through that
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  and maybe explain that to our listeners so they can get to
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  understand about that concept? So it it's something that even
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  physicians haven't brought to the surface enough.
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  You know, they're beginning to, the physicians are beginning to
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  the ones that are, if you call functional physicians that
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  they're looking more at the whole body because physicians
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  tend to love to specialize in one thing.
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  So I don't want to pull out the gut as the only thing, but.
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  The gut. But can I just pull something on
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  that note, Robin, you are not. You are you are.
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  Like to me, I've just sat with you for nearly, you know, like
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  an hour and I've got all this incredible knowledge from you.
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  And what I've discovered is it's not really about one thing here
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  anyway. It's about how that orchestrates
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  like a tree of life. Absolutely, Absolutely.
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  And, and that's what I've heard like, you know, healing the gut
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  and rebalancing the the vagus nerve is calming the body and
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  restoring harmony. So that to me, I didn't know
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  that an hour ago, but I do now. But it's certainly not just
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  reflective of one thing. It's it's how the gut is
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  operating so many elements of our lives.
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  Now that's so true and that there's certain organisms,
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  people may not even know what a microbiome is.
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  We have a microbiome in our gut. We actually have a microbiome on
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  our skin too. We couldn't live without these
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  organisms. It's we, we're don't be afraid
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  of them as germs. We need these to help us.
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  They need those. They actually the microbiome in
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  the gut is a colony. It's a, it's a community of
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  different, different types of microbes and there's certain
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  kinds that help are helpers and there's certain kinds that
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  actually cause harm and cause inflammation.
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  The, so that you've, I don't know if you've ever heard of,
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  seen a baby with thrush or Candida.
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  You know this. OK, so my son, his gut went so
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  bad that he wasn't able to digest food.
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  Food came out food, it's food. No digestion happened.
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  And he also had a severe candida infection all over, all over it.
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  So I knew there was something wrong with his gut with that.
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  I mean, that was, it was just obvious and the doctors still
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  didn't want to address it, didn't want to address it.
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  But that is to the extreme. But even amongst us walking
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  around, the balance of the microorganisms in the gut is so
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  important. And it is so important to help
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  encourage the, the ones, the good bacteria and encourage them
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  to function well so they can do their jobs.
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  And as we were talking, they actually help your hormone
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  balance. They help with the the anxiety,
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  you know, they help damp that damp down the anxiety.
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  They also help with your immune system.
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  Now they help with that too. So it is important to make sure
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  we find a balance in our gut, to have a balance in our whole
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  body, balance in our life. Yeah, yeah.
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  And, and I know that you are a very strong advocate of getting
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  with nature as well and encouraging people to get out in
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  nature, hug a tree, walk in the grass, be barefoot.
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  But you also talk about the fact that it's important for them to
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  do something that they want to do that, you know, they'll
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  enjoy. You know, obviously that's going
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  to increase all of the endorphins naturally in the body
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  as well, right? But tell us about what happens
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  to a person who's locked up in a ward in a hospital.
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  You know, what can they do if they can't get out in nature?
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  Well, that was very interesting. I read a study just a couple of
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  months ago, a study on this. People have known for a long
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  time that we are wired to love nature.
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  You know, years and years and years of in the past we have
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  been involved with nature. And so when we go back to
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  nature, it's like going back to your roots.
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  But if you're in a hospital, if you're not unable to get out of
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  the hospital bed, they first started with have a, if it has a
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  window out so they can see a tree or see nature, that helps.
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  But then they found out if they put up pictures of nature in the
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  hospital room, that helped also. So is this something that you're
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  like you said, your serotonin level goes up because you see
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  nature and this happens some, you know, I mean, even to the
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  having nature on your computer screen when you're going on the
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  on the back, on the backboard of it, you know, it's just it's
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  amazing thing and wonderfully people are researching this and
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  so it's coming out. That's that's amazing.
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  I love, I love your scientific brain and the research and yet
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  all of this natural collaborative in integrative
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  elements that you're bringing to the table here.
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  And Speaking of which, we're going to talk about how
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  important nutrients are, the power of micronutrients and
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  functional nutrition. Now firstly, can you explain to
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  me what functional nutrition is? I'm sure there are people out
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  there that are going to really want to understand that,
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  especially if they want to get themselves healthy.
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  And I want to it, I want to make sure people know that I don't
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  throw out the science, I don't throw out the straight medical
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  practice, but I believe that we really need it to be
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  integrative. Integrative.
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  Like you see, if you ever see geese flying or ducks flying in
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  AV, that's that lift they get from each other.
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  So integrative medicine, functional functional medicine
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  is taking, looking at the whole body and, and the doing
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  different things that all lift the entire body to balance it
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  all together. Functional medicine is more
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  specific in that they're really looking trying to find the root
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  cause of whatever is going on in your body.
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  And, and they're like, they're investigators that really,
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  really look at the whole body 1st.
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  And like many in the medical profession, which rightly so,
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  they become experts in specific topics, but they always look
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  with more of a narrow, more narrow view.
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  They look to their expertise. Sure.
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  Yeah. And, you know, do you feel too
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  that supporting, you know, obviously what you're talking
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  about here, both with nutrition and functional nutrition and
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  practical and all the rest of it without throwing anything out.
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  Do you believe that if a person is going to eat well and they're
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  going to actually, you know, feed their body in a way that's
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  going to, you know, really help balance their hormones and, and
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  all of those systems, is this gonna also help with
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  inflammation? Because inflammation is
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  definitely the big thing. I mean, it happens in people's
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  brains, It's happening in people's, you know, bodies,
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  their immune systems, everything is, is it going to actually
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  assist with that? Absolutely it will.
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  The one of the things that for nutrition there's two there's
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  macro nutrition and micronutrition, two different
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  things people think mostly of about macro nutrition.
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  They say, well, I get enough car, I get this many carbs, I
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  get protein, you know, I need, you know, these things in the
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  macro and they look in the big picture.
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  That's important for your gut. One of the things that's the
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  most important for your gut is it likes to eat fiber, it likes
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  to eat a variety. Your microbiome likes to help
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  with a variety of different fruits and vegetables, most a
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  lot of different vegetables. And when you eat the same thing
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  every day, I know people who do that.
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  I'm even married to one who tends to like to eat the same
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  thing. I keep telling him we need to do
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  something different, do something different.
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  Try a new vegetable because it's that variety which is fabulous,
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  fabulous. And so trying new things, that's
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  one way to look at it. And that help will help the
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  inflammation in helping balance the bacteria, the microbiome.
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  Now micro nutrition is another thing.
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  When we were hunter gatherers, we would, we often in a lot of
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  cultures choose herbs, Bitter herbs are things to add.
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  So it's really wonderful to add herbs and spices to your meal.
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  These herbs actually do more than just give you nutrition.
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  They a lot of research has gone into this and I was proud to be
• 30:24
  part of the little beginnings of it in the in the inflammation
• 30:28
  lab I was in. But specific plant nutrients and
• 30:35
  in specific ratios in small amounts can actually help
• 30:41
  processes our body work better. And now that sounds outlandish,
• 30:48
  but it's not outlandish. It actually works.
• 30:50
  They have found there's you talk about all the pathways in the
• 30:55
  body and how amazing the body is with all the different pathways
• 30:59
  and the communication going on in the body.
• 31:02
  Well, these plants help the communication work better.
• 31:08
  They help encourage them. Can I give an example?
• 31:13
  Please. OK, so we were talking about
• 31:16
  inflammation and we're talking about gut health.
• 31:20
  And the reason gut health is important is a, is a like
• 31:24
  dysbiosis, a gut that's not healthy increases inflammation
• 31:28
  significantly. But Anthony, no, most people
• 31:32
  don't know that in our bodies there are cells, lots of cells
• 31:36
  of our body. And in each cell the cells have
• 31:40
  the ability to make an enzyme that fights inflammation all on
• 31:47
  its own. And that is, and so this
• 31:52
  inflammation, we think about antioxidants.
• 31:55
  So you think about antioxidants with the fruits and vegetables.
• 31:59
  That's why doctors say you have to eat.
• 32:01
  You know, we need that many servings of vegetables and
• 32:03
  things. Those antioxidants are coming
• 32:05
  in, but antioxidants coming in like that don't.
• 32:11
  It takes a lot to fight inflammation in a body.
• 32:15
  Now, when you have the herbs with it, and if you have the
• 32:19
  herbs in certain ratios, they turn on a pathway that makes the
• 32:24
  cells inside the cell make its own enzymes that fight
• 32:28
  inflammation hundreds of times more than just the straight
• 32:33
  antioxidants you eat. And this is very fairly new
• 32:37
  research, fairly new. And so not many people know
• 32:41
  about that yet. Well, it's almost like the
• 32:44
  innate intelligence of our nervous system.
• 32:49
  And you know, what I'm hearing you say is that this is the
• 32:57
  where our innate intelligence can wire and fire together like
• 33:02
  spark plugs of, you know, with the right nutrients, bringing
• 33:07
  about cellular health and turning on the body's internal
• 33:12
  healing mechanisms. And I mean, it doesn't get
• 33:15
  better than that, you know, when it comes from, you know, inside
• 33:20
  of us. And obviously you've talked a
• 33:23
  lot from the scientific place of plant based.
• 33:27
  What what happens if we are you saying just a small amount of
• 33:33
  plant based you know? Not really, you know, and, and I
• 33:39
  and I, I really believe that we are all individuals and adding
• 33:46
  more plants is always good, but not all of us work well with
• 33:51
  complete plant based. Some people do, some people do,
• 33:57
  but some people don't. I, yeah, I, I personally, I was
• 34:02
  at a training facility and an integrative health facility and
• 34:07
  I, they were feeding us basically a very high vegetable
• 34:12
  diet, which is great, but only a tiny bit of salmon.
• 34:18
  And I became very sick and I went to the dietitian there and
• 34:23
  like, I don't know why I'm getting so sick.
• 34:24
  And they, they did some studies on me and like, and they said,
• 34:27
  oh, you need more meat. You need meat to function well.
• 34:33
  So I they gave me some, they, they, they prescribed some
• 34:37
  chicken. And here I am.
• 34:40
  Everybody else is eating plates filled with vegetables and I was
• 34:43
  prescribed just to eat chicken for one day.
• 34:46
  Oh yeah, I'm with you all the way.
• 34:49
  I'm a carnivore from way back and I think we do but.
• 34:54
  I don't dictate. I don't dictate that everybody
• 34:58
  should do this. No, absolutely.
• 35:02
  Yeah, it's, it depends on your blood type.
• 35:05
  And apparently my blood type actually does warrant for me to
• 35:11
  eat meat. I don't know how these people
• 35:14
  don't eat meat, but I'd probably be like you and Wilt if I was
• 35:19
  just fed just vegetables and I'd be terribly bored as well.
• 35:23
  I I do have to confess that. So you know, and, and you know,
• 35:28
  your mentor Doctor Wentz states that when you're, when you
• 35:33
  nourish the cell, you nourish your whole body.
• 35:37
  And, and I know because I do the kind of the mindset work.
• 35:41
  So I look up to Deepak Chopra and he talks about the cells.
• 35:49
  And because he is a medical practitioner, he did a study and
• 35:53
  he was working out why some people that were diagnosed with
• 35:59
  terminal cancer just died very quickly and then others didn't.
• 36:07
  And in fact, some of them went into remission.
• 36:10
  And what he did was he he did the whole microscope and came to
• 36:16
  know. And his theory is that our cells
• 36:21
  of our body are constantly ears dropping on our thoughts.
• 36:27
  So I know, you know, while you're bringing this incredible
• 36:33
  information, you know, here and also lifestyle, I know that when
• 36:40
  you've got that healthy mindset and if you can keep a happy
• 36:45
  mindset too. I mean, they've shown it.
• 36:48
  Have you seen about the scientific things where they've
• 36:51
  got water and they've got a whole, you know, people to to
• 36:56
  put hate into the water and the water changes color to the
• 37:01
  people that actually, you know, put love.
• 37:05
  So there, there's got to be, there's got to be some link
• 37:09
  there, isn't there? There's got to be, there's got
• 37:12
  to be. Like I said, it's the whole
• 37:14
  body. This is very interesting because
• 37:18
  Doctor Myron Wentz, who I do admire greatly, is not a
• 37:22
  physician. He's a, a scientist, a
• 37:24
  microbiologist, immunologist, but he knew about what you just
• 37:29
  said because he decided to start an organization.
• 37:36
  It's a, it's a medical institute, it's a working
• 37:39
  medical hospital. But it brings in all that you're
• 37:43
  saying. It brings in that heart brain,
• 37:45
  it brings in the the energy work and all the different things
• 37:53
  that we can we can do to help ourselves.
• 37:55
  And I was there for training and I did experience that myself.
• 38:01
  It's not just diet. It takes it all.
• 38:07
  It takes all of the above. Yeah, which leads me to your
• 38:12
  12345 cornerstones here and I'll let you open it out.
• 38:19
  And some of it we've obviously already touched on, but it's
• 38:24
  just what I love to bring to the show so that people can really
• 38:28
  get deep value. But it's the lifestyle part that
• 38:33
  you really love to specialize on with all the knowledge that you
• 38:38
  bring to the table and healing through conscious choices.
• 38:43
  So the functional Wellness, you know, you understand it's not
• 38:48
  just about what you eat, it's how you live.
• 38:52
  And that's what I love about the work you do.
• 38:56
  So perhaps you couldn't kind of open this up a little as I, I
• 39:01
  just kind of flipped through very quickly those five
• 39:04
  cornerstones. So Robin encourages small
• 39:09
  mindful habits. There is a bit of a hack that
• 39:14
  I'm sure that we can start off with before we cover these five
• 39:18
  cornerstones, which is the writing.
• 39:22
  Now, I know a lot of people talk about journaling, but I think
• 39:25
  there's more to it with what you have said to me, because it's
• 39:30
  about assessing your feelings and associating it with the food
• 39:36
  and how they feel. Do you want to just open that up
• 39:39
  so that people can really learn a practical way of using
• 39:44
  journaling to understand their feelings?
• 39:49
  It journaling is, is very important.
• 39:51
  There is a connection when you and, and it doesn't happen when
• 39:56
  you type on a computer you want to write.
• 40:02
  Yes, that's the connection, but it's also learning how to listen
• 40:07
  to your body. And so whether you want to
• 40:12
  journal in the morning, you know a lot of people.
• 40:16
  One of my mentors actually teaches me to, you know, have a,
• 40:19
  a little a morning ritual, morning routine and do it some
• 40:22
  journaling. How do I feel this morning?
• 40:25
  What can I do to energize myself?
• 40:27
  You know, what can I do to make if if I'm not feeling the
• 40:30
  greatest, what can I do? You know, that kind of thing.
• 40:34
  I also like assessing how the day went.
• 40:40
  So and just and just at the end of the day, OK, how was my day
• 40:43
  today and how can I make tomorrow a better day?
• 40:46
  Or how it helps you think about, OK, what did I eat and maybe did
• 40:54
  that affect how I felt? That's just one little item.
• 41:00
  It could be how did I react to bad news or how did I react to
• 41:07
  something that just didn't go well that day and how and how
• 41:12
  maybe would be a better way to do it.
• 41:14
  It's really learning about yourself.
• 41:16
  I think journaling is talking to yourself and learning about
• 41:20
  yourself and helping yourself improve the ways you do things.
• 41:26
  Well, yeah, absolutely. And here is a classic because it
• 41:30
  already happened this week. I do feel that I, I've been
• 41:34
  given this amazing gift where if something's not good for me and
• 41:39
  it's going to really, you know, be a bad thing sooner or later,
• 41:45
  you know, the universe, God, whatever you wanna call the
• 41:49
  hierarchy of my body and soul will just come in with something
• 41:54
  that is just going to make me feel so dreadful.
• 41:57
  It's gonna stop me from going further with it.
• 42:01
  And one of the things I cannot have in food is MSG.
• 42:06
  And I absolutely love biryani. And I've been eating so much
• 42:13
  biryani and I've been sort of experimenting from different
• 42:16
  places. And I went into a new place and
• 42:21
  I ate it. And the next day I woke up and
• 42:26
  my mouth tasted like the bottom of a coffee's cage.
• 42:29
  Not that I've ever eaten the bottom, but.
• 42:32
  I. Felt like, I literally felt like
• 42:37
  I was a smoker and I'd been drinking heavily and I felt, my
• 42:43
  body felt dry, like, you know, just from the inside out.
• 42:49
  And I immediately knew that it was food that had put me into
• 42:55
  that position. And it changed my mood.
• 42:59
  And it's a bit like alcohol. And and this is where you say,
• 43:03
  you know, you're not just about one thing.
• 43:05
  It's not just about the guy. This is, this is about
• 43:09
  everything. It's, it's the whole tree of
• 43:11
  life. And I even came to know that,
• 43:14
  you know, alcohol has a very big kind of an impact on how you
• 43:20
  feel the next day. You know, people take it for the
• 43:24
  dopamine at the time, but then just to find that they wake the
• 43:28
  next day feeling low. So it actually ends up robbing
• 43:33
  you. So, you know, this is where if
• 43:36
  you look at Robin's healthy lifestyle.
• 43:40
  And by the way, we will put it in the show notes, Robin does
• 43:44
  have a free Facebook group and she brings in experts.
• 43:50
  So that, and I can't think of anything better than that
• 43:54
  because I, I appreciate more than ever now that my husband's
• 43:59
  in the position that he is in how important cellular repair
• 44:03
  is, how important the gut brain is, how important you know, it
• 44:08
  is to keep inflammation at at Bay.
• 44:12
  And so we can't underestimate the power of this.
• 44:16
  So just check out the show notes.
• 44:18
  You will find the link to be able to join that Facebook
• 44:22
  group. And I'm not sure you might be
• 44:24
  able to get in directly if you click it, but we will give all
• 44:29
  that information after. But now comes to we come to the
• 44:33
  end of the program. And you know, I always love to
• 44:38
  say to people, you know, if you could share something that you
• 44:43
  got off the the show and you went, oh, I would have really
• 44:46
  liked to have said that. And there is so much you do
• 44:51
  bring to the table, but I'm just, I am going to touch on
• 44:54
  your 5 cornerstones and they are sleep, movement, nature with
• 45:04
  therapy, which is I think you talked about what was it forest,
• 45:09
  bathing forest. Forest bathing or grounding or
• 45:14
  grounding with nature. Sometimes people say it that
• 45:17
  way. Emotional awareness, which is
• 45:20
  what Robin was just touching on, and joy and connection.
• 45:26
  So with those five cornerstones, would you like to just open up
• 45:30
  and speak on what you know, what comes to you that is important
• 45:36
  for the listener? I always talk about balance and
• 45:43
  one of the things I do have a tool I have is a balance wheel.
• 45:48
  It's AI made it a flower because I like nature.
• 45:53
  But if you, if you rate, if you think about, you know, how do
• 45:57
  you feel? How is your sleep or how is
• 46:00
  your, you know, how are you? Do you have a community?
• 46:06
  You know, you have people around you that are supportive or
• 46:09
  anything like that? Any of these five points, you
• 46:13
  can tell if you have, you know, if you're really off on one
• 46:18
  thing. So when people come to me, I
• 46:22
  know a lot of different things and different lifestyle things,
• 46:24
  but I don't throw the whole boat at them.
• 46:29
  It's let's work. Let's find out what we can work
• 46:32
  on to bring the balance a little bit closer to having a hole, a
• 46:37
  good hole and, and then the others.
• 46:41
  The rest will come. The rest will come.
• 46:45
  And then reassess after six months, you know, three to six
• 46:48
  months reassess and see if you know, maybe at that point you've
• 46:54
  gotten very good. You've just, you've added
• 46:56
  meditation in your life. You've added daily, you know,
• 46:59
  step outside and maybe barefoot in the grass if it's, if it's
• 47:04
  warm enough or just walking through the woods if you can.
• 47:09
  And, and it's something else you want to work on or you maybe you
• 47:12
  start with the food, you know. So that's what I would say is
• 47:17
  it's all about making that clunky wheel a nice smooth,
• 47:22
  balanced 1. I love that.
• 47:26
  That's so good. And I and I, I love, you know,
• 47:31
  being kind of really aware and utilizing the journaling because
• 47:38
  the body doesn't make mistakes, it makes messages.
• 47:45
  And when we listen, we heal. So this is what Robin, who is
• 47:51
  the founder of Living Well Connections.
• 47:55
  These are just some of the philosophies.
• 47:58
  And inside that group, you are also going to meet with a lot of
• 48:03
  other experts. So if you are really centered
• 48:07
  around, you know, building, you know, resilience, reading
• 48:13
  inflammation, balancing hormones, feeling better
• 48:18
  emotionally, reconnecting with your body's innate intelligence,
• 48:24
  this is this is the lady. So what would you say?
• 48:29
  You've got the over 40 and fabulous podcast as well.
• 48:36
  So we're going to recommend people to definitely head over
• 48:39
  and listen to that. For those loving lifestyle tips,
• 48:45
  are there any last words that you would love to share before
• 48:49
  we we close the show? I would Sometimes the hardest
• 48:55
  part is getting started and I do like to help people start with.
• 49:02
  Just start with one step. Don't feel like you have to do
• 49:05
  everything at once. Go into a boot camp kind of
• 49:10
  thing. You don't have to do that, if
• 49:12
  that. If that's something you love,
• 49:15
  that's OK, But just take one step toward better health and
• 49:20
  you will never regret that. You know, you're a gentle
• 49:26
  spirit, Robin, and I love your bespoke approach and, and the
• 49:31
  fact that you, I mean, you pride yourself and you made this very
• 49:37
  plain to me at the beginning. And that was exactly what you
• 49:41
  just said. And also being able to listen
• 49:44
  deeply and wholly to that client with that real individualized
• 49:51
  approach. So you're not just a
• 49:53
  practitioner that says boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 49:57
  You are an active listener who meets each client where they
• 50:01
  are. And, you know, I'm, I'm really
• 50:04
  loving the physical, emotional and the nutritional aspects of
• 50:10
  what you are all about. And yeah, I just want to thank
• 50:15
  you so much for, you know, bringing, you know, your
• 50:18
  scientific knowledge, your medical research, your
• 50:22
  incredible knowledge of the, of nature and integrating that for
• 50:28
  our listeners on the show. Well.
• 50:31
  Thank you. Thank you so much.
• 50:33
  This has been a delight. Thank you.
• 50:37
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• 50:41
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• 50:48
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