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Lane Kiffin & LSU Embarrass Clemson, Dabo’s Tough Choice and the Clippers’ Disaster | 09.07 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Balmati Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: we got a lot going on here. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: get to the NCAA or the NBA, giving the Clippers
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  Speaker 1: the death penalty.
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  Speaker 2: Hard to tell which is which these days. A few
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  Speaker 2: other stories. First, Saturday night. Ryan, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: lie to you, man. I ain't watched this shit. It
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  Speaker 2: was a two hour East coast rain delay.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: It was LSU and Clemson. And look, I generally like
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  Speaker 1: I go places. I don't really talk about it, but
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  Speaker 1: you can see it all in my face. You understand
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? You can tell I've been, I've been
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  Speaker 1: amongst the world, right?
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  Speaker 2: I was out of here for 16 days.
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  Speaker 1: I took an 11 hour flight back on Friday and
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  Speaker 1: that seven 30 came.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, better seven 30 kickoff. That's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Then they said that thing
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  Speaker 1: was delayed till 940. I was like, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: much optimism about where.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to go. I woke up on the couch.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say it was 28 to 3, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I know it got to 31 to 3. I remember
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  Speaker 1: seeing 31 to 3 with my own eyes. But I
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  Speaker 1: was like, damn, what quarter is it? And I looked
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  Speaker 1: down and it said the second. LSU was beating the
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  Speaker 1: brakes off of Clemson. The breaks off of that. I
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  Speaker 1: saw that Clemson was unranked. Ryan, I'm also going to
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you. In this new day and age,
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  Speaker 1: I don't spend no time doing no preseason analysis and
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  Speaker 1: no college football team no more.
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  Speaker 2: Because why?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows who, nobody knows what anything is going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows who anything is. I'm showing up. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be just as surprised as everybody else. But I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Clemson is unranked.
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  Speaker 2: That seems... a bit unfamiliar.
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  Speaker 1: Um, LSU is right, but I did see earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the day where Boise state almost got Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, so I was like, Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Anything's possible.
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  Speaker 1: And in the end, no matter what anybody wants to
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  Speaker 1: say about college football, I don't know how many years
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  Speaker 1: it'll take Indiana to win a goddamn national championship for
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  Speaker 1: anybody want to watch them play.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like it's a, it's, it's, it takes like Clemson. It
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  Speaker 1: took a while for them to get there, but they
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  Speaker 1: got there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a brand thing. That's how it goes. LSU Clemson.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like my type of party.
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  Speaker 1: And God, it's going to be so difficult. So for
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  Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, Ryan is from Lafayette, Louisiana.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan is an LSU grad. And so now Ryan's coach
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  Speaker 1: is fucking lame. Like, like this is, this is, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just going to watch every week as the way we
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  Speaker 1: used to talk about Lane shifts into the way that
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  Speaker 1: I talk about Lane. And your glass half full ass
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out these other ways that we deal
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  Speaker 1: with Lane that don't involve Lane just being Lane.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I understand. I'm not going to say I don't
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  Speaker 3: understand the frustration. I just... I can't say I agree
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  Speaker 3: for certain reasons.
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  Speaker 1: I just, I never thought like, what's it like when
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  Speaker 1: that guy shows up and he coaches your team. And
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  Speaker 1: then after he does that, because he's laid players start
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  Speaker 1: showing up.
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  Speaker 2: Some of whom have been in NFL training camps.
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  Speaker 1: I get all this and it's, and it's just all
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  Speaker 1: lane and vanity fair brand.
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  Speaker 2: The excerpt from the book was in John Talty or Talty.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you say it, But anyway, he
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  Speaker 1: got a book with a quote with somebody saying that
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  Speaker 1: Nick Saban wore. The thing about Lane is you just
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  Speaker 1: got to keep him off the girls on campus. This
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  Speaker 1: drops right before the game.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like the week of the game. It is clear this
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  Speaker 2: year is going to be about Lane.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's not going to be about him this year,
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  Speaker 1: this month will be about him the same way September
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  Speaker 1: of 2023 is.
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  Speaker 2: Was about Deion Sanders, right? And why? This is where
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  Speaker 2: it gets a little bit different.
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  Speaker 1: Deion was kind of working this out on the basis
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  Speaker 1: of it was a bit of a boring season.
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  Speaker 2: They were playing them Friday night games, right? Next week,
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  Speaker 2: they play Louisiana Tech. But that's not going to matter.
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  Speaker 1: And college football will be all about Ohio State, Texas, right?
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  Speaker 1: After that, it's the game going back to Ole Miss.
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  Speaker 2: That's the next week.
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  Speaker 1: And then the week after that, home for Texas A & M.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be this Clemson game. LSU-Clemson, that's the
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  Speaker 1: game of the week, right? Ole Miss-LSU, obviously. That might
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  Speaker 1: be the game of the year in terms of pregame hype.
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  Speaker 2: A & M- LSU, that's going to be the game of
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  Speaker 2: that week, though.
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  Speaker 1: Somewhere, somehow, A & M is going to have to find.
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  Speaker 2: Those four or five losses. So they might start early.
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  Speaker 2: You never know. It's going to happen. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: be there.
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  Speaker 1: That eight wins, somehow, someway, that's where it winds up.
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  Speaker 1: But Lane's going to be it, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: hate this because he's such a jerk. Here's my problem
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  Speaker 1: with him being a jerk, okay? This is my issue
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  Speaker 1: with it. If you're going to do it, do it.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't lean into it. He dabbles in it. He
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  Speaker 1: does his trolling and then comes on the, I just
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  Speaker 1: don't understand why people don't like me. You know goddamn
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  Speaker 1: well why people don't like you, right? Like, here's what
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  Speaker 1: he creates, right? It is very difficult in this world.
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  Speaker 1: And this is, Ryan, you tell me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think I am, okay?
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  Speaker 2: What happens when a word.
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  Speaker 1: Is both a classification and an insult, right? Where you
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  Speaker 1: can call somebody something and it simply be a statement
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  Speaker 1: of fact and you're not saying it to be mean,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the technical definition of a thing or a
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  Speaker 1: person like that, okay? I bet you know what word
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of right now.
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  Speaker 3: Troll.
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  Speaker 2: Asshole. I mean, asshole, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Some people are just assholes, right? But they can be
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  Speaker 1: your friend to be an asshole. Have I ever been
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  Speaker 1: the asshole friend? Much of the 20th century.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I worked on it down the line.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I understand this, right? He's an asshole,
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  Speaker 1: but he's my friend. And then there's some people, when
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  Speaker 1: you call him an asshole, it comes from here. It
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  Speaker 1: comes from your chest, right? It comes from your gut.
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  Speaker 1: It is not coming from the nasal palate. It is
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  Speaker 1: coming from your heart. You're saying that shit like you're Tupac, right?
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  Speaker 1: Both of these are the case with Lane.
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  Speaker 2: He's an asshole. But that's just, that's what you call somebody.
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  Speaker 1: That's what those things are called.
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  Speaker 2: That's just what it's called.
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  Speaker 1: Like on my vacation, I was riding a horse and
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  Speaker 1: it was a horse in front of me. And that
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  Speaker 1: horse began to defecate. I mean, just a big asshole
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  Speaker 1: just right there. And all it was missing was a
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  Speaker 1: purple and gold visor.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I know.
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  Speaker 1: That if somebody came on and said, hey, nobody, they
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  Speaker 1: call you this.
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  Speaker 2: They call you an asshole.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, it's going to go either way.
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  Speaker 1: If Lane finds out that I called him an asshole,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be offended.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what my problem is. You know what you are.
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  Speaker 2: You know what it is. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Are you saying slightly leaning in? to the mic as
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  Speaker 3: you pretend that they can't hear you as you clearly
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  Speaker 3: talking in the mic as you get in your slides
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  Speaker 3: like I guess I wonder if they can't hear me
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  Speaker 3: yes you saying that's.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's that's his whole that that's the part that
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  Speaker 1: I don't like right that's the part that I don't
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  Speaker 1: like but now he jazzing up these expectations because they
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  Speaker 1: won the game 51 to 10 like the that sounded
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  Speaker 1: like what is the most dominant game that I think
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  Speaker 1: I have recalled seeing a team play in September, and
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  Speaker 1: it was also LSU, and it was also at that stadium.
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  Speaker 1: And it was also in 2007 against Virginia Tech where
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  Speaker 1: it looked like LSU had 13 dudes on the field
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  Speaker 1: on defense. It looked like dudes were jumping up off
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  Speaker 1: the ground. They had white boys making interceptions. White boys
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  Speaker 1: with long hair looking like interviewing a vampire.
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  Speaker 2: Making interceptions and taking that shit back the other way.
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  Speaker 2: That was a wild.
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  Speaker 1: It was the first of two straight years of Virginia
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  Speaker 1: Tech burned Tyron Taylor's red shirt.
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  Speaker 2: Because otherwise, oh baby, this shit just ain't gonna work.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have problems if we don't do this. They
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  Speaker 2: did that.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know how much that has to do
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  Speaker 1: with LSU from the little bit of that game that
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  Speaker 1: I watched because Clemson clearly has a problem. And their
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  Speaker 1: problem cannot be solved by the coach that they have.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody there needs to be honest with themselves about
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  Speaker 1: this fact. And the fact that I believe that this
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  Speaker 1: cannot be solved by the coach that they have is actually,
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  Speaker 1: for me, a compliment to this coach, Dabo Swinney, that
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  Speaker 1: I have long been very critical of and have now
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  Speaker 1: come to like a little bit because if nothing else,
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  Speaker 1: what Dabo has shown me is he believes the stuff
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  Speaker 1: he says.
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  Speaker 3: I think believer is a great word to describe Dabo.
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  Speaker 2: It is, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: There is the old high believer situation with him, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth is, when it comes to the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: and all of those things, he is a true believer
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  Speaker 1: in the power of college sports to transform lives under,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's under the monarchy.
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  Speaker 2: Of amateurism, right?
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  Speaker 1: The thing I say about Dabo all the time, that
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  Speaker 1: man was so poor when he got to college that
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  Speaker 1: him and his mama shared a bed together.
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  Speaker 2: He walked on to the football team.
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  Speaker 1: I saw something in the wiki I was checking out
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  Speaker 1: here that he had to like take out a Discover
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  Speaker 1: card to pay off the rest of whatever it would
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  Speaker 1: have taken for him to get into school and then
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  Speaker 1: pay the rent.
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  Speaker 2: Like he he did this right. He figured it out.
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  Speaker 2: He made it. He got to the other side of it.
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  Speaker 2: And he truly believes like, how are you going to
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  Speaker 2: tell that man America ain't great?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was up here all the time. He wanted
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  Speaker 1: white people. You're going to try to explain to him
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  Speaker 1: why we deserve reparations. He's like, why do you think
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  Speaker 1: life is so easy for white people?
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  Speaker 2: Right. And I'm like, hey, when you put it like that,
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  Speaker 2: I understand. I understand it all. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so Dabo had that line a bunch of years
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  Speaker 1: ago where he said, if this turns into pro football,
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  Speaker 1: then I don't want to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And his argument, what he said, I thought was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: In retrospect, he was like, I didn't say I had
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  Speaker 1: a problem with the players getting paid. I truly don't
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  Speaker 1: think that any actual coach has a real problem with
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  Speaker 1: the players getting paid because they go into those houses.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They go see these people that they have.
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  Speaker 3: They know where they're getting these players from and what
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  Speaker 3: their lives are like and have for the last 30 years.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, if any guy in that position that doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: those players to get paid is cruel and a bad person, right,
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  Speaker 1: given the circumstances that they've seen. So anyway, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that Dabo had a problem getting paid. But what
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  Speaker 1: he said was, if this starts feeling like I'm coaching
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  Speaker 1: in professional football.
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  Speaker 2: then that's not what I came here to do.
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  Speaker 1: He clearly wants, with the spirit of Jesus Christ, to
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  Speaker 1: raise better men and to win games.
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  Speaker 2: He has clearly made decisions in terms.
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  Speaker 1: Of how they recruit and structure a program with a
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  Speaker 1: great emphasis toward their own players, staying away from transfers,
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  Speaker 1: all of those things. There's a way in which he
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  Speaker 1: wants to do this that is very idealistic, right? And
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a certain irony to the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the same week that people were piling on Lane Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: for his willingness to bring in guys who were in
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  Speaker 1: NFL training camps last week, with the same fervor, we
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  Speaker 1: will attack Dabo Swinney for not wanting to play the
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  Speaker 1: transfer portal game in any of those things, right? But
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  Speaker 1: the bottom line is those attacks on Dabo are fair.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason that they're fair is this. This reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of the end of the aughts when things weren't
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  Speaker 1: going so great for Maryland basketball with Gary Williams. And
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  Speaker 1: as somebody who covered recruiting at the time told me,
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  Speaker 1: are you the.
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  Speaker 2: Veracity of this statement? I'm just telling you what he said.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, look, guys, everybody's cheating except Tom Izzo,
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  Speaker 1: Roy Williams, and Gary Williams. Now, obviously, North Carolina had
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  Speaker 1: a unique situation. that it had going on there, right?
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  Speaker 1: But that was the line, right? I say all that
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  Speaker 1: to say, Gary's the one that nobody thought was cheating.
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  Speaker 2: And Gary was the guy that was absolutely, I get.
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  Speaker 1: My kinds of guys, I recruit my kinds of guys, right?
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  Speaker 1: But while that was going on, you got Kevin Durant
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  Speaker 1: in PG County, same county as the University of Maryland,
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  Speaker 1: and Gary's now recruiting him. You get Ty Lawson, same,
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  Speaker 1: you know, same thing. Gary doesn't recruit him, but the
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  Speaker 1: year Gary doesn't recruit Ty Lawson, he does recruit Gravis Vasquez,
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  Speaker 1: who is his guy and is a conference player of
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  Speaker 1: the year, so forth and so on, right? But the
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  Speaker 1: bottom line was, Maryland had reached the point of winning
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  Speaker 1: national championships. And now they were not getting the caliber
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  Speaker 1: of players that was necessary to even truly compete in
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  Speaker 1: the ACC. And it's because Gary didn't want to do
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  Speaker 1: it that way. And so Gary would come into all
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  Speaker 1: those press availabilities. Well, you know, we won a lot
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  Speaker 1: of games around here. Hey, you know, we won a
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  Speaker 1: championship here, but hey, man, you can't do it like
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  Speaker 1: that anymore. And so I commend you for trying.
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  Speaker 2: To do it what you believe to be the right way.
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  Speaker 1: But if you can't do it the right way and win, well,
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  Speaker 1: we don't hire you to do it the right way.
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  Speaker 2: We hire you to win.
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  Speaker 3: It's really interesting. He said after the game that they
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  Speaker 3: didn't have a player's problem. They had a football problem,
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  Speaker 3: and he doesn't understand that those are the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: There we go, right? He wants to do it that way.
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  Speaker 1: And if you can do it that way and win,
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  Speaker 1: bless you. If you can do it that way and
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  Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence, right?
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  Speaker 2: You can do it that way and have Deshaun White. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: you have Todd Boyd, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, if you can do it that way and get
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  Speaker 1: those guys, cool. Go ahead and do that. But the
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  Speaker 1: bottom line with Dabo Swinney, for any of us who
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  Speaker 1: remember what it was like when he first got there,
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  Speaker 1: that man ain't no goddamn football genius. Remember when they
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  Speaker 1: gave up 70 in the Orange Bowl that time? Like,
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  Speaker 1: Dabo turning this into what it turned into is one
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  Speaker 1: of the great shocks. The job that he did at
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  Speaker 1: Clemson is one of the great jobs.
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  Speaker 2: Of all time.
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  Speaker 3: Went toe-to-toe with Nick Saban for four years. Yes. And
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  Speaker 3: won twice.
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  Speaker 2: And was their equal.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Won twice, and the two they lost were like by
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  Speaker 2: this much.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Or I think it's the one. But either way, it
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  Speaker 2: was he.
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  Speaker 3: Did that, man.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: But that shit don't work no more.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's an entirely different game in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: it is that you have to do. And so if
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  Speaker 1: Clemson is satisfied going seven and six, eight and five,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is, they keep Dabo around forever.
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  Speaker 2: But they're not going to do that.
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  Speaker 1: They've never, even when they were an eight win school,
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  Speaker 1: they wasn't cool with it. They don't want that. And
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  Speaker 1: so for Dabo, to me, you got to look around.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason Coach K quit. Roy Williams quit.
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  Speaker 2: Jay Wright quit. Nick Saban quit.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's some other guys, I guess off
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  Speaker 1: the top of my head, we could go through that
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  Speaker 1: I just don't have for you right now.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a reason why these guys quit.
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  Speaker 1: They did not want to play the game as the
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  Speaker 1: game is to be played.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is, Dabo's younger than those dudes. He's older
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  Speaker 2: than he looks. He's 56.
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  Speaker 1: But he's younger than these guys. He still wants to
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: do it. But the whole paradigm shifted directly in front
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: of you. And to me, it's not about the money.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: It's once you could transfer without cost. Once you could
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: just transfer, now this turned into something completely different, and
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: everybody else is going out every year and making their
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: team better, and Dabble's trying to make their team better
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: at practice.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: And it's not going to work. It's not going to happen, right?
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the guy that coached the other team, shit, like
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I said, he's trying to get into it. Are the
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: NFL boys going to be playing? I mean, they're not
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: NFL players, obviously, but they're going to be.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: They're not on the roster. Currently.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: But they're on the yard, right?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: So as I understand it, they're at school but can't
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: practice because they're not on the roster. But that is
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: open to changing as the year goes on and the
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: courts figure this out.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Indiana got some guys back, right? I saw that. They
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: had a couple dudes. Coaches are going to get the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: best players they can. Unless there are legitimate moral reasons
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: at play. you cannot afford in this game to not
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: get the best players that you can.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: You just can't do it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: And by the way, Dabo was able to win without doing.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: That all the way.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Part of that was generational quarterbacks, but he was able to.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work anymore, man.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: So you have two choices here. Get fired or quit.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think he's going to change.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I would.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Respect him more for getting fired or quitting than I
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: would respect him if he decided to change up how
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: he did. Right? I told people, the thing I always
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: remember with him, 2016, when Deion Kane failed that drug
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: test going into the playoff, and he was suspended for
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the semifinal game. That was the only game he was
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: required to be suspended for, and he still sat him
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: out for the championship game.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: It was 15. He didn't have to do that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Right? I don't think he should have done it. But
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that's what you do when you believe it. Like, hey, man,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: if we gonna lose, then we just gonna lose.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I had to respect it. And after so much of
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: it with him, I have to respect it.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: But buddy, either get real or get gone.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Cause those are your two options. Okay. So the quiet
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: letter thing with the NBA, um, has been resolved.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: And I have said from the very beginning that I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: didn't think that this was much of anything and that
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I did not find it to be particularly interesting that
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I did not care.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Um, I still don't really care.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: The idea of cap circumvention, I still don't find that
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: very interesting. Rich people being really stupid? Let me pull
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: up a chair.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Now we're in my zone.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Really stupid and very transparently, yes.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that mean? My buddy pull out that folding chair? Like, oh, okay.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Now I have arrived. I do want to be clear
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: about something, though.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I am not going to get into the journalism of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: it all for a number of reasons. One of them
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: being that I try to not get into the journalism
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of much on this show.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I just don't think it's that place.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: The other part is, obviously, I got a history with
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the gentleman at the forefront of reporting this, Pablo. There's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: a lot going on over there that I am not
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the right person to discuss.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But the story itself.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Ryan, I was in Europe when the first thing came
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: out where ESPN had reported that Ballmer had no evidence
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: that Ballmer had funneled money and that the penalty was.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Not expected to be that harsh.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Now, I am very curious as to how much that
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: story affected the ultimate harshness of the penalty, which is
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: five first round picks.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And Uncle Dennis can't come back to the NBA no more.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: And, you know, $ 30 million.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: $ 30 million fine. Steve Ballmer suspended for a year. Lawrence
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Frank suspended for six months. A woman that worked in
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: business being suspended for a year. And I don't know
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: if you've seen this thing where Draymond Green is like,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you could talk about how $ 30 million to Steve Ballmer
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is like $ 20 to you, but it's still $ 30 million.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: He is 100% correct about that. $ 30 million ain't that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: much money is something that nobody has ever said about
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: their own $ 30 million.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Correct. right?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Like, it's, no, it's not going to end Steve Ballmer's world. Like,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: people think that these punishments are supposed to destroy people. Nah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it's just not supposed to feel good. Cutting a check
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: of $ 30 million doesn't feel good.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Look, here's the.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Thing about what they found in this report that jumped
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: out to me and just had me like, wow, these
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: rich people are really stupid. Or maybe not even that
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: these rich people are really stupid. How about, let me
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: raise it this way. I saw my buddy Ethan Strauss
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: had brought this up. I know I have talked about
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: this a little bit in other places. I don't know
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: how in depth I've gone into it here, but have
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you ever read Steve Ballmer's wiki page from his time
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at Microsoft?
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I know where you're going with this.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I've scanned it because you have told me this, but
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I feel like we give away what happens.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: It's not a success story.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: No.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Like everything about his tenure at Microsoft is about late
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: to this, didn't do this, got this wrong, so forth
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and so on. He's really rich because he was there
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: from the very beginning. I read somewhere that his dividends
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: make him $ 300 million every quarter. Because he'd been there
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: for so long. So, like, him being as rich as
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: he is is not necessarily a function of his brilliance
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: as a businessman.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: And Microsoft started making a lot of this money the
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: second he stepped down.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, it turned around. the second that he left, right?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Like they were slow to get on the internet. They
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: didn't get the MP3 player thing right. Like, you know,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the Zoom, like that was during his thing. It's a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of this stuff, but it raises the question
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: about whether or not he's actually that good at.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Being a businessman. And after checking out that report, he
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: is not.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And the thing that makes me say that he is
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: not a good businessman is how did you afford.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: All this leverage to Dennis?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And so, Dennis, a.k.a.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Uncle Dennis, I try not to call him Uncle Dennis
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: because I feel like he's Kawhi's uncle, but the dude
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: used to work at Merrill Lynch. Like, he an older
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: black man with gray hair that he brushed back with.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, like, he's not.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think the picture that people have in somebody's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: mind when they be like, your uncle is handling your
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: business is in line with who the man is that
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: we're talking about here.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: And clearly, Uncle... Dennis, good at business. Business for Kawhi.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: But I also want to note that Uncle Dennis also
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: behaves exactly in the way that you would presume that
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the man that we call Uncle Dennis would behave.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: It all goes in together.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: The part that jumped out to me is that Ballmer
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was getting scammed by the Aspiration Dude. But I feel
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: like Ballmer was also getting scammed by Dennis. And I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: know how he got scammed by Dennis, right? And this is,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's very important to go back and think
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: about the context of 2019 when Kawhi Leonard signs there.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: What happens in 2018? LeBron James signs with the Lakers, okay?
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: So the Clippers, who had spent that whole decade chipping
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: away and getting themselves some relevance in this city, okay?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Just for LeBron, the Lakers, who are a terribly run operation, right?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Now LeBron is showing up and he's demonstrated to us
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: for years that it don't matter how good the operation is,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: he can make this happen.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So LeBron's there.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: The Lakers are also trying to sign Kawhi in 2019, right?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: The Clippers had the opportunity to sign arguably the best
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: player in the NBA. 2019 Kawhi Leonard is now two
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: times finals MVP, roundly considered to be maybe the best
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: perimeter defensive player in the league. So the best defensive
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: player in the league could carry a team to a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: championship whose second best player was Kyle Lowry. OK, now
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: you got the chance to get the best player in
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the league.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: OK, cool.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And he's like, you got to go get Paul George
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and you give up the world to get Paul George.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody says. You do that every time. Right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Keeping in mind that Paul George is like one year
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: removed from a top three MVP finish.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: You've got these two giant wings, great defenders.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Paul George, who's been the best player on a team
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that got to a game seven of a conference final before.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You do that. You feel like you're here. You've
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: got that chance. You make that move. Got it. But
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: once you got them.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Do you really have to just bow down in every
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: way that they wound up doing? I watched Pat Riley
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: not bow down to LeBron James when he was in Miami, right?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: But you know what? I think he kind of did.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And here's why.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Part of why I believe the NBA's penalties were so
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: harsh was that they went and told everybody in 2019, hey, man,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: this Dennis.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Guy, Watch out.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: He's out here asking people to do too much, do
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: things that are against the rules.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And so the.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: NBA basically created a Crime Stopper snitch line where you
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: were supposed to call in or you were supposed to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: let them know anytime somebody asked for, using NCAA terms,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: an improper benefit. Because Dennis was asking for planes. Dennis
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: was asking for a share of the Maple Leafs.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dennis was asking for everything, right?
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Okay. Now you're supposed to tell the league about this.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And that's obviously something you can do if Kawhi doesn't
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: play for you. But if Kawhi does play for you,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you got to deal with this dude for as long
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: as Kawhi does play for you. Because he's Kawhi's guy.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You can't, in application... You can't turn in Kawhi's guy, right?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: What you have to do is take his phone calls
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and just try to shake that shit.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're working on it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting to some stuff and we'll figure it
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: out later.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll work it out.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Like, I just got done reading Joan Didion's book that
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: she wrote about Miami, which is really interesting. And Ryan,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: off the heels of that other book I just read
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: about Miami that I was telling you about, that was amazing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: But anyway, she makes a point in there that the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: thing about the Cubans was that They felt very betrayed
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: by the United States government, particularly after the Cuban Missile Crisis,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: where Kennedy basically promises the Soviet Union, we will not
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: invade Cuba.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: And so the government has always.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Got the CIA guy to try to send them guys
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: in to try to maybe do something, but always like, hey, hey, hey,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but we ain't got nothing to do with it, right?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: That's the same thing with paying pigs. Like, you trade them,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you get.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Paid, hey, hey, hey, hey. That's not us.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And so they just feel like you act like you care,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: but you don't care, right?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: That's Dennis. That's Dennis. Dennis is like, hey, man, what's up?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Get us some money.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're working on it. No, that wasn't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: going to work on Dennis. Dennis is like, yo, what's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: up with this money, man? Not Kawhi's money. My money.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I gots to get paid. What are we going to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: do about getting me this money? And the Clippers are.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Like, all right, cool. We'll go get you this money. Now,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'll say again, I don't really care.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: About the fact that the Clippers would be like, hey,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: we have sponsors here.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Cool.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to them. We'll like none of that stuff
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: bothers me.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Right. I don't think that any of that cuts at
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the fabric of the competitive balance of the NBA because
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the salary cap is not intended to create competitive balance.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: is intended to increase franchise values, right? But this is
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: not a bedrock of the league or the idea that
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: a team could help a guy get sponsorships or whatever.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I just watched Oklahoma City win a championship.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Also, that was part of the reason that, like, very
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: publicly discussed that why Kevin Durant went to the worst.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Look at all these guys.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Look at all these head guys that you can meet.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: And now he just made all this money. Yeah. When
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Hugging Face sells. Right. How do you think that came about?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't, like, This isn't to me.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: This isn't something that I really care about. But for
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the NBA, we told y'all not to do this. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: then the Clippers went out here and actually did it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And it seems very clearly they did this because Uncle
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Dennis is really.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Annoying, right?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: The wildest thing in there, and it's the one that
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: really did the Clippers in, is the email from the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: scammer from Aspire, okay?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Aspiration, rather. And he's like, hey, man, you trying to
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: get this deal done or not? Or am I going
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to have to go tell.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Dennis that y'all ain't getting this deal done and that's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: why he can't get his money?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, no, don't tell Dennis. What are
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: you talking about?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying Balmer got scammed by Aspiration and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Balmer's getting scammed by Uncle Dennis.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: What leverage does Uncle Dennis have? Think about this. Maybe
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: you were afraid.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: That Kawhi would go to the Lakers in 2019 because
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: they are the Lakers. But Kawhi was never going to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: go to LeBron James' team.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Like I know for a fact that was never.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Going to happen where he was going to go play
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: second fiddle to LeBron James coming off the finals MVP. OK,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: never was that going to go down. So now Kawhi
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: plays for your team. What a fucked up.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Knee and messed up everything else. And he wants to
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: live in California. He wasn't living in San Diego so bad.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: He live in San Diego and try to drive to L.A.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: every day.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Where is this guy going to go? He tears his
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: ACL and you give.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Him an extension. Where is this guy?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Where is this leverage that Kawhi and Uncle Dennis had
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: over you to where you felt beholden to them? I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: do not understand this for the life of me, how
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: they had that much flex over the Clippers. And all
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: it got them was a trip to the conference finals,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: which Ryan, correct me if I'm wrong, happened in a
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: year where Kawhi got hurt and didn't even play in
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the conference finals.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: How did you wind up here? With Lawrence Frank, with notes,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: as you say, on all these things that the league
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: told you not to do.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: They said don't do this.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Now, is it possible that you can go around the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: rest of the league and you'll find other people who
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: are walking.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Guys up to sponsors, right?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Guys who have sponsorships with whoever has the Jersey Pats sponsor?
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: You certainly can do that. But they told you specifically not.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: that you can't do this, and you were afraid of,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: what was Uncle Dennis, what was Dennis going to do
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: to y'all? That's all I want to know.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: What was he going to do to you that left
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: you in this situation where now, they got those picks
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: from the Kauai trade. They got two first round picks
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that are becoming from Toronto. I've, if I'm not mistaken,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: when Minnesota got punished for the Joe Smith situation, they
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: took five first round picks in alternating years.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: They're doing these straight. They didn't have to do that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: That's silver twisting the knife there.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: That's silver being like, y'all not going to punk me.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And they're going to.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Do this through five straight years just because they have
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: idiots in charge.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: And then Ballmer has to fire Lawrence Frank, right?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: He apparently just got a big extension.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I understand this.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I understand this, but I also believe I saw Pablo
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: say in an interview that basically Lawrence, I don't know
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: what's going through this guy's mind. He apparently snitched on
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Balmer to lessen his suspension.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: What does it matter if you still work for the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: fucking Clippers?
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: What are you?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell on.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: My boss so I can come back to work sooner
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: for the same boss. Remember when Jason Kidd was like, hey,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I got to get this cat out of here.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Can't have him on my squad.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, he's singing like a canary.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Because let me tell you, if there's anybody that knows
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you can't have nobody like that around, it's Jason Kidd.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Takes one to know one.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: He understands what this all has to be. So, yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: all of this went. And, yeah, I tell you, I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: didn't think that the offense was that big a deal.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I still don't think the offense was that big a deal.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: But in terms of actual application of the league, obviously
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: it is a giant deal because they docked them five
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: first round picks and they did that thing where they
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: gave Kawhi no punishment so that Ballmer has no grounds
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: to appeal. And so what I also wonder in this
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: is if the reports are true that Ballmer would not
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: agree to the allegations of wrongdoing or whatever it is,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: the NBA needed this done. I think the Clippers were
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: moving largely to try to convey the idea that, not
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: convey the idea.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: The Clippers were like, you need to get this done.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: We got the cards here because we didn't funnel this money.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: You just need to go ahead and get this finished.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Because you don't want us to go to arbitration, right?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Because that was the thing. You don't want us to
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: go to arbitration now, do you? And they were like,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: how about I not go to arbitration because we're going
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to find Kawhi Leonard $ 700, 000 or, in the previous discussion, $ 375, 000.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Like $ 3.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: 75.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That's what they're going to do.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And now they're stuck. They are done. They are cooked.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And for what?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: To give Did I even give to set up for
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard to get more money even though he had
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: no leverage in the actual situation?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you somebody I think that people owe
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: an apology to? Stephen A.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Smith. Do you remember when Stephen A. Smith said Kawhi
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Leonard was the worst superstar in the history of the NBA?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I do, yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Say he wronged. Say he's wrong, right?
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Like, I've always thought before this that the Kawhi move,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the Paul George move, all of that, great moves for
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the Clippers, no matter whether they won or not. Like,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: all the sterling was off of the franchise. They built
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a new arena. There's a relevance they had.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: All of that stuff. All of that's there. Great for them.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: But your owner is a mark.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Like a literal mark. That's the only way to look
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: at this. And by the way, people apparently like working
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: for him. I think he's apparently been great for the fans.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I thought that in a league where the real concern
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: is teams not trying to win, that a team trying
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: too hard to win wouldn't be such a bad thing
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: for people.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You know, I thought they.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: That's not what happened, Brian.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: That's not what happened at all. And they took notes
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: on the criminal... Fucking conspiracy. Wow.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: We know you can't be on top of all the
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: news and information of the day. No need for the
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: social media feeds. We got you. Now, if you haven't heard.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, if you haven't heard, craziness at the
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: end of the Michigan-Western Michigan game. Michigan appeared to lose
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: to Western Michigan at home after a failed Hail Mary attempt. However,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: refs put on one second. Back on the clock. Michigan
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: completes their Hail Mary attempt. They win 13-12. Bo, what
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: was your biggest reaction from this game?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be the one that people think.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Because, I don't know, did you see the Big Ten's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: explanation for why they put the second back on the clock?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and did you see the weird statement? Like, did
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: it bizarre? Yeah, but I did read it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: But it makes sense, right?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: The argument is somebody went from out of bounds, came
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: in bounds, was the first person to touch it. That
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: happened with one second. So we rolled the clock back.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Also, yeah, the explanation of The TV clock and the
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: clock are two different things.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But if that's what happened, fine, that's what happened. But
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you definitely need to explain that.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Like in the real time. But that's not the big
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: deal to me. Kyle Whittingham has already come out and
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: done the.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Whole I don't have to hate Ohio State to beat them. Hey, buddy.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: You do it. Like, it's not like, it's not like
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: this guy doesn't understand rivalries.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Right. But he's on, he's a BYU grad who coached
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: at Utah. Maybe he has to have a certain measure
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: of perspective or whatever it is. But all I'm saying
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: is that game was 12 to seven after they, they,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: they won it with a 12, seven before, after the, uh.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: It was 12, seven before the Hail Mary. Got it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: So it's 14 to 12. Yeah. 13, 12.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But they didn't get the extra point, but whatever.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey, man, there's a great
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: room for this to be a really terrible season in
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: at Michigan. Um, I'm not sure what they've got here,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm saying. And I do think
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: that if you could only put up 14 points against
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Western Michigan, seven of them in a Hail Mary in
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: your first week, it is okay to start off with some, hey,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: what do we have here?
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Especially when you've been paying your quarterback $ 12 million to
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: go there.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, but they have an interesting thing that doesn't happen
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: very often, man. They were in position to hire an
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: honest to God Hall of Fame coach.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: You don't have a lot of experience with teams.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: And hiring the guy, not because it fell apart in
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the last place, right? They decided they were ready to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: move on. So he seemed like a great hire. He
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: was probably the best coach anybody could hire. But what
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: if it's maybe best coach and best hire? Not necessarily
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the same thing. And I wonder if they got one
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of those situations here.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see as the year goes
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: on because they play Oklahoma next week.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Good luck with that, fellas.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right. Over the weekend, LeBron James put out
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: a teaser for a partnership with the prediction market, Polymarket.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Social media had a lot of fun. This is my
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: favorite tweet. This shows the difference between MJ and LeBron's games.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Michael Jordan was more of a score-first gambling addict. LeBron
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: was much more comfortable creating Inverse's gambling edition for others. Beau,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: your thoughts.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: So there seem to be two industries. that people are
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: really down on. One of them is artificial intelligence.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and specifically creating data centers.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, and the other one is, FSA.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I'd say even past data centers, just like, like when
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: we have my buddy Ted on here talking about like
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the use of AI created images and stuff like that. Like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: especially with younger people, when they get a whiff that you're,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that you use AI, like.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: People are doing that shit on the sneak.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Like, like, like they don't, they won't talk about it
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: no more. But the other one is these prediction markets.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Now, I mean, I'll tell you guys here, I don't,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: And if you say this is a distinction without a difference,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I don't have a great argument against it. But I've
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: allowed us to take sponsorships from sportsbooks.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I will not from prediction markets.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And the big reason I drew the line on prediction
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: markets was I watched the Polymarket commercial when it came out.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And it was a guy at a cash register. And
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it was these real quick shots to everything that he
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: could bet on. And it seemed to convey the anxiety
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: of addiction. And I was like, oh, this is cruel.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You're not selling people on something.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You're literally trying to get them hooked right here in
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: real time. And I was like, nah, man, I can't
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: get down with that. That, for me, is the place
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: that I draw the line. Again, if you say it's
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: a distinction without a difference, I don't think you're making
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: an unfair point. I'm not trying to defend myself. I'm
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: just trying to be honest with you about where I
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: come from on this. I say all that to say,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: even with LeBron selling the bonds on his endorsements that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: people found out about, brother, you don't need this money
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: that bad.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It's just not possible.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: This, to me, is just an incredibly problematic product that
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: is being put in front of people. And I just
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: don't understand how much more money LeBron James needs.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: To where you've got to go do this. And what
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: are you going for?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Because this ain't winning you no fans. I'm just telling
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you that now. It's not going to do it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: And finally, the US Open had an interesting... controversy as
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: the two-time defending champion arena, Salah link up complained about
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: weed smell. She gave a quote. I don't know if
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: it was like coming for the crowd or was from
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: outside because the wind blows in the stadium. I don't know.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: They've just got to be a bit more aware of
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: that stuff. Bo you've been, you've been to the U
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: S open. Um, what was your thoughts on this issue?
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: So we're all friends here, right? Okay.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: The U.S.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Open is what I would call a semi-outdoor activity. It
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: is an outdoor activity, but they got their roof over
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: ash that can close or whatever. But it's an outdoor thing, right?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Something that people need to understand about New York is
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that it is legal to smoke weed in New York
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: anywhere that it is legal to smoke a cigarette. This
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: is not the same as other places. Other places, people
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: may just be doing it. Here, generally, this city smells
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like weed a lot. However, time and place, I think
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: everybody generally understands those ideas, okay?
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I would not feel comfortable firing up at the U.S. Open.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: At a concert at Forest Hills, right down the street?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's do it, right? Game on, we got this.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: The U.S. Open, to me at least, doesn't feel like
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: the place to fire up.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And here's why the U.S. Open doesn't feel like the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: place to fire up. It feels like a place where
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: somebody would tell on you. And by the way, can't
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: really blame them, right? This isn't necessarily that place. Now,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: this is my question about what Sabalenka's talking about.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Are people smoking like on the lower levels?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I would find that to be impossible.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I would find that not only impossible, but that's not
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the smoke at.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: The stadium crowd.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Typically, when you hear stories about people smoking in stadiums,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: they're up there.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: They're way up there.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And so I want to know where those people are
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: smoking that Saban Lincoln can smell it on the court.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Because even if the roof is closed, that is a
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: giant place, right? That is a giant place.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is, if the weed is so powerful,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: that Sabalenka can smell it from the court instead of
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: telling the umpire, come tell me so I can find
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: out where they got that shit from.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: That shit sound like the bomb.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: If everybody can smell it, you on the court and
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: you can smell it, you need to.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Be like, hey, come down here for a second. Let
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: me get some of that. Who your mans is? What
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: are they firing up? I have so many questions about
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: what's going on there. And I have.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Questions about who the person is that's like, were you
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the first one to fire up at the U.S.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Open?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Like I've been places or concerts where like the concert.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: You know, you know you're being inconsiderate, right?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: But a concert comes with a certain expectation, especially like,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you know, you're not going to like a child, a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: kid show or whatever. You know, like the concert come
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: with a certain expectation, but you can always tell the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: looking around as everybody tries to decide who's going to.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Be the first, right? And then after one person does,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: now it turns, it's like the wave. One person does
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: it and now it starts sounding like.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Especially in New York. Yes.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: You hear everybody going, who's the person at the US Open?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I said, man, fuck that, man. You got a lighter.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: All right, cool. Let's go. Who's doing this?
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Or, or, or, Arita Sabalenka reminds a lot of fellas
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: of every other woman they've ever dated, which is to say,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: she's just a bloodhound. Whatever it was that you weren't
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: supposed to be doing, don't you worry. She will follow
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: her nose right to the, right, right, right, right to
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: whatever it is.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Like, Salma Lake, I don't know if she got a husband,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend, or whatever it is, but I'm going to
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: tell you this right now.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: If you went to the strip club, you better tell
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: her because she's going to smell that body. She's going
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: to get that smell of too much body wash before
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you even get out the car.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: She out here smelling that weed on the court.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo. A lot of good voicemails over our break.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Here's our first.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Hey, Bo, Ryan.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: It's Al in Austin, Texas.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm listening to you talk about how you fell
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: with Al Duncan.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know about you, man.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I'm 41. I decided a long time ago I did
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: not want to fall.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Ever again.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: I think the last.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Time I fell... I was living in Colorado, and I
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: must have been 35, and I slipped on some ice.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: And I think that was the day I decided I
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: never want to fall again. So, when was the last
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: time you fell unexpectedly outside of the mountain bike incident?
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Love the show. Always listening, man.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Y'all have a good day.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Well, if I'm not mistaken, I think it's when I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: fell off that snowmobile in Iceland.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Did you tell them about that?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I have, but I'll do it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: So this is actually one of the coolest things I've
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: ever done. I rode a snowmobile up on a glacier
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: in Iceland.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Sounds awesome.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: The pictures are incredible. And so anyway.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I fell off the snowmobile a couple times because they
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: were like, it's like a motorcycle when you turn. And
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I'd never ridden a motorcycle before. So, you know, they
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: would do it where you got to swing your weight
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: right when you make the turns. And I wasn't fully
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: getting that. And I fell a couple times. And one
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: of those times, man, I fell. And, man, I was
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: in February. My shoulder was a wreck for three, four months.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And at the end of, like, the third month, it
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: started coming around. I was down in Atlanta doing some
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: work for Turner. And I met Brendan Haywood. And I
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: went to dap him up. And, buddy, that powerful, my
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: shit was fucked up. It's like he popped my shit
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: right back out. It was like I went right, I
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was, whatever, it was like I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: went right back to the beginning. It was like another
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: two months before I could get back. Hey, man, let
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: me tell you something. Brent Haywood, strong as a bull, dog.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I love that it wasn't even like a hard, like
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: you ran into him like it was a hard screen
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: in the hall. He just dapped you up.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: He just, you know, he was just offering me salutation
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and hospitality.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: And I was, oh, yeah, nah, man, falling down. Falling down,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: bad news, man. Falling down real bad news.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Alright, here's our next one. Hey, what's going on, Bo?
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: This is D calling from North Carolina. Just had a
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: question to ask you. I hadn't heard many people talking
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: about it. Is it a coincidence that the Lakers got
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: sold to essentially the Trump dynasty after they had a
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: whole offseason of just acquiring white players? I don't think
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: that's a complete coincidence.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: So I just figured I'd ask.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Love the show.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: Peace.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, man. It's a lot of white dudes
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: on the squad. It's a.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Kushner's apparently a limb, but, you know.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: If you sign that many white players to a basketball
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: team in 2026, you have to ask questions.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, didn't they sign Colin Sexton? And I saw that,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, there must be some sort
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: of mistake.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I don't understand what's going on here.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Like, if The subtext of Lakers Celtics in the 80s
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: always was race. If it was Lakers Celtics again, the
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: homies wouldn't know who to root for.
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  Speaker 2: What are we talking about? How does this go? I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to tell you this, man. I'm saying this to
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  Speaker 2: the Lakers.
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  Speaker 1: Based on my knowledge of white people, not white basketball players.
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  Speaker 1: You can go out there and hoop with a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of white boys if you win. You out there hooping
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of white boys and you don't win,
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  Speaker 1: everybody going to think you're not trying to win. Because
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: if you were trying to win, why would you be
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: out here hooping with all these white boys? I'm not
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: saying you can't win with those white boys. I'm just
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: saying don't nobody think less of white basketball players than
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  Speaker 1: white people.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Now, when the white basketball player actually turns out to
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  Speaker 2: be good, now white people get a little bit kooky
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 1: But up until that, the brother's always going to be like, no, man,
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  Speaker 1: he can go.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: It's white people that's out here like, uh-uh.
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  Speaker 1: Look, white people only let black people do things that
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: they think white people are incapable of. And basketball is
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the motherfucking list. Like, let me
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: tell you something. You realize how good Tom Brady and
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: them had to be to be throwing the ball at all.
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  Speaker 2: Them white boys? You know why? Because you don't do
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  Speaker 2: that by accident. It's not possible.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying you don't walk into Chris Hogan?
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I'm saying your team can't look that much different than
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: every other team unless somebody's got an idea, right? Now,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: with Belichick, I think it was very clear. He's like, yo,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: this white-skinned model, they be selling those for 50% off.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: You know, like that's what I think he thought he
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: found a market inefficiency.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody wanted to save money that bad in basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Hell no. I'll never forget this.
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  Speaker 1: And it's really funny how it all turned out. But
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in 2009, I was working on the radio in North Carolina.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: And this is when Duke had gotten really white, right?
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: It's like after Ellie Williamson left, I think they only
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  Speaker 1: had three black dudes on the team. Now, of course,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the next year they won a national championship.
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  Speaker 2: But that whole year.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody kept telling me, but they got some real good
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: recruits coming in in 2010. They got some real good
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: recruits coming in in 2010. Now, ultimately, Kyrie Irving came
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: in in 2010. He had not committed when they were
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: saying that. The three guys they were talking about at
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: the time were Andre Dawkins, Tyler Thornton, and Josh Harrison.
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  Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know who those guys are, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That's the point. They were just black. That was it.
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  Speaker 1: The year before was Ryan Kelly and Mason Plumlee, two
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  Speaker 1: NBA players, one of.
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  Speaker 2: Whom is still in the NBA. Just a little bit
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: too white to really get people nervous. All I'm saying is,
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  Speaker 2: even at Duke, they were like, hey, I think this
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: shit's going a little too far.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our last one.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Bomani. Hey, Ryan and or Mike. This is Brady
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  Speaker 6: from Montana calling to let you know that it ain't
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: just the South. My wife's good friend is having a baby,
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: and recently her mother-in-law came up in conversation. As you
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: might expect, all parties involved here are white. It is Montana,
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: after all. But I'm sure you can understand my surprise
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: when it was revealed that the mother-in-law's name is Sharesa,
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: spelled like it sounds. And we could have even more
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  Speaker 6: fun if I told you her children's names, but that
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  Speaker 6: would incriminate me.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all take care.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why you think that Sharesa
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  Speaker 2: is it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've given yourself away.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Hey, man, I'm really glad that we've become
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: the safe space.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Same.
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  Speaker 2: I really do.
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  Speaker 1: And look, I know these white boys have been looking
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: around like, somebody's got to be someplace.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's got to bring this up.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it. They're like, am I allowed
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: to talk about this? Yes, because Bo Jones said so. Also,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: shout out to our man in Urbana, Illinois. He told
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: us about how he went to Urban Fades to get
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: his cut for the first time.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: And he said that they done got a little uptick
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: in business.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Look at us.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. We out here.
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  Speaker 3: Boosting local economies.
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  Speaker 2: Job creators. Job creators. Maybe we can create a job
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: for Lawrence Frank.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Lawrence Frank going to go to
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Urban Fades and everybody going to stop talking.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Lauren first can come here and take notes. You
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: can be my PA. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you, that'd be so funny.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Frank went in there and came out with like
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: two fades on the side and cutting his eyebrow.
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  Speaker 2: I would love that. But ladies and gentlemen.
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