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BBY or ABY? Lucasfilm's Focus Post Skywalker Saga CCCVIII · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you. Always.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everyone!
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance, your
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  Speaker 1: home run geek ultimate alliance podcast network for any and
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  Speaker 1: all things Star Wars. Where I am one of your hosts, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: And with me, as always, is Clay. Clay, how are
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  Speaker 1: you doing today?
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  Speaker 3: I am doing pretty good. Now, we are both a
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  Speaker 3: little frustrated with the new video game of Galactic Racer. Guys,
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  Speaker 3: it is so much more intense than I initially thought.
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  Speaker 3: And we will talk more about Galactic Racer personally next
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  Speaker 3: week on our Galactic Racer podcast. review. We want to
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  Speaker 3: get a full week's worth of play before we review it.
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  Speaker 3: But we do have some Galactic Racer news that I
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  Speaker 3: do want to share with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: It was Zero Company news.
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  Speaker 3: The initial 24-hour numbers I do want to share. But yes,
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  Speaker 3: one of our topics is going to be Bit Reactor's
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  Speaker 3: news about Zero Company and all of that. And then
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  Speaker 3: we have some comic book news, kind of. More so
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  Speaker 3: along the lines of just Marvel, which of course does
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  Speaker 3: license the Star Wars books from themselves. It's really weird
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  Speaker 3: how all of that kind of works out. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: either way. um we got comics news we got video
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  Speaker 3: game news more video game news and then we will
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  Speaker 3: go on to our main topic of the night aby
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  Speaker 3: or sorry bby or aby lucasfilm's focus moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: And that guys just to make sure we're on the
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  Speaker 1: same page because i asked clay this question i was
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  Speaker 1: like what what does that mean exactly It means, are
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  Speaker 1: we going before the Skywalker saga or after the Skywalker saga?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's, and the reason why we decided to
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  Speaker 3: choose B-B-Y and A-B-Y is because that's the most recognizable
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  Speaker 3: terminology when it comes to the Star Wars universe. So
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  Speaker 3: it is the Skywalker saga in focus. And then like,
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  Speaker 3: what should we be focusing on before the Skywalker saga?
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  Speaker 3: or after the Skywalker saga.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is important, too. If you're new here, hi,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. BBY means before the Battle of Yavin.
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  Speaker 1: APY means after the Battle of Yavin, a.k.a. A New
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  Speaker 1: Hope Third Act.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: So, now that we have that down, Clay, why don't
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  Speaker 1: you take us into the comic news? And then we'll
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  Speaker 1: jump into Galactic Racer, 24-hour specs, and then our first thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I sent this screenshot of my own email
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  Speaker 3: to Katie.
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  Speaker 1: And I did get this email as well because I
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  Speaker 1: was a past subscriber.
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  Speaker 3: This was actually in my others folder. It didn't go
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  Speaker 3: into my main focused inbox. But it is from Marvel Unlimited.
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  Speaker 3: And it says, important update. Marvel Unlimited is sunsetting December 7, 2026.
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  Speaker 3: What this means is that it's being decommissioned. Marvel Unlimited
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  Speaker 3: is dying. They are killing it. They are putting it
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  Speaker 3: out to pasture. And they're actually going to be coming
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  Speaker 3: up with a second app partnered with their already partnership
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  Speaker 3: that has been going on for a couple years now,
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  Speaker 3: which is Marvel. webtoons it's going to be marvel comics
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  Speaker 3: app powered by webtoons that's a really long-winded name i
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  Speaker 3: really hope that they kind of figure out a name
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  Speaker 3: because marvel comics app powered by webtoons is a mouthful
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  Speaker 3: and nobody's gonna want to call it that and nobody's
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  Speaker 3: calling it mcapbw like nobody's calling it that either it's probably.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna be mcwb Marvel Comics Webtoons.
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  Speaker 3: WT Webtoons. Not WB.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I was going with WB for web.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: MCWT.
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  Speaker 3: There we go. Because you said MCWB and I'm like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Had 41 needles shoved in my head today. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little out of it.
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  Speaker 3: It's all good. It's all good. So important thing to
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  Speaker 3: note with this entire thing. is a lot of people's
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  Speaker 3: scarcity with this was, oh man, this is powered by Webtoons.
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  Speaker 3: It means that everything is going to be scrolling content. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I was about to say WB. Webtoons was like, it
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  Speaker 3: genuinely filled a void for a, like, for a market
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  Speaker 3: that was there in the internet space, for the comic
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  Speaker 3: book space, which was they essentially created this whole scrolling
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  Speaker 3: comic book type of format. And it became super popular
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  Speaker 3: super quick. Webtoons has been a thing since about 2017, 2018.
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  Speaker 3: And it boomed During COVID. That's kind of when they
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  Speaker 3: really started. To push a lot of their stuff. It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't until. I want to say.
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  Speaker 2: 2022.
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  Speaker 3: Or 2023. When Webtoon started to partner.
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  Speaker 2: With.
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  Speaker 3: DC and Marvel. They have both. Publishers. In their app.
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  Speaker 3: But when it comes to.
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  Speaker 1: Like.
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  Speaker 3: Leaning heavily into the format, Marvel kind of said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: lead us along. And we started to see more of
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  Speaker 3: the Marvel Unlimited books that were on the Marvel Unlimited app,
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  Speaker 3: and those were scrollable. They just wanted those consumers from
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  Speaker 3: Webtoons to go onto their app, and that's perfectly normal
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  Speaker 3: for other companies to kind of, hey, can I copy
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  Speaker 3: your homework? But, you know, kind of change it as
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  Speaker 3: much as I can. And while still keeping, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what is really nice to the consumer and wanting to
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  Speaker 3: keep them there. So now they've just said, hey, Webtoons,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to fix what's not broken. So can
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  Speaker 3: you guys go ahead and make us an app?
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  Speaker 1: Basically, copy, paste, license it.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. And so, it says here, in the summary of
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  Speaker 3: this giant article, it is Marvel Unlimited shuts down December 2026.
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  Speaker 3: Webtoons taking over the Digital Comics Library. Marvel Comics powered
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  Speaker 3: by Webtoons launches November 16th, carrying 35,000 plus Marvel, Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: and Disney titles. New pricing. This is the big thing.
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  Speaker 3: Because There was a monthly subscription on Marvel Unlimited. And
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  Speaker 3: there was an annual subscription on Marvel Unlimited. This is
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  Speaker 3: where things start to change. There is a base tier
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  Speaker 3: for this new app.
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  Speaker 1: Which is your standard 90-day window for comics.
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  Speaker 3: The three-month after print.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: they add a ultimate tier opposite of the annual. So
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  Speaker 3: there's still an annual, but there's an ultimate tier to that,
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  Speaker 3: which does give a 30 days after print. So if
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  Speaker 3: you are an avid new reader, so for instance, Katie
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  Speaker 3: and I usually wait for the trade. We usually wait
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  Speaker 3: for the full story. This would not be for us.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Granted, I am pretty sure Katie and I have both
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  Speaker 3: been offered a grandfather pricing, founder pricing for this new app,
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  Speaker 3: which is offering us the price of a old annual subscription,
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  Speaker 3: which was $ 56. 99, but adding that to the ultimate tier,
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  Speaker 3: which is supposed to be $ 99. 99. And so they're offering
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  Speaker 3: like basically $ 30 off. I think it's a total of
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  Speaker 3: like 60%.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 40% off the ultimate tier.
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  Speaker 1: And also. because i know this was a hot topic
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  Speaker 1: at least on threads um if you have uh because
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  Speaker 1: the marvel unlimited app is also for comics that you
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  Speaker 1: have like purchased or gotten in code from the back
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  Speaker 1: of your comic book yes it does state in the
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  Speaker 1: email that we've received that the Marvel Unlimited library can
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  Speaker 1: be fully transferred to the MCWT app. And so that
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  Speaker 1: includes reading progress, redeemed slash purchase titles, and the saved issues.
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  Speaker 1: So like I had a bunch of, like I bookmarked
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  Speaker 1: all of the Star Wars comics into like my saved tier.
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  Speaker 1: So that way they were easy for me to go
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  Speaker 1: back and reference. I could then easily transfer those saved
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  Speaker 1: categories over to the new app.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: And I say easily. Easily is the ideal term, right, guys?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because we just don't know, honestly. We won't know
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  Speaker 3: until November hits. The other thing with that is, Katie,
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned the tabs, the codes for comics at the
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  Speaker 3: end or in the middle of books, how they used
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  Speaker 3: to be. I don't know how they're doing it nowadays anymore.
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  Speaker 3: For Marvel, excuse me. But those are also seemingly going
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  Speaker 3: away in November. And I do believe the reason for
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  Speaker 3: that is to incentivize the ultimate tier so that way
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  Speaker 3: people can read digitally 30 days after release. It's not
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  Speaker 3: something that I love. And the reason being is because
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  Speaker 3: you don't own those. You don't own those. Technically, you
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  Speaker 3: didn't own the Marvel books either. Now, I would never, ever, ever,
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  Speaker 3: ever tell you to cast your sail into open waters, but.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna gimp smack you.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but I'm just saying, in a world where
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  Speaker 3: all of these multi-million dollar companies, sometimes billion dollar companies,
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  Speaker 3: are telling you that you don't own anything that you purchase,
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  Speaker 3: just so you know, the Marvel Unlimited, and I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure this.
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  Speaker 3: W this, this MCW D T whatever app, whatever it
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  Speaker 3: might be called. And other and other books or comic
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  Speaker 3: book apps that you actually do purchase stuff. They don't
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  Speaker 3: have the same coding as that of a streaming app.
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  Speaker 3: If you screenshot it, it's there. If you have enough
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  Speaker 3: screenshots to complete a comic, did you know that you
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  Speaker 3: can make it into a PDF? Did you know that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Big proponent of the scanner. I've seen it happen. Just
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  Speaker 3: letting you guys know. So, in the future, as far
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  Speaker 3: as the idea.
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  Speaker 3: As far as the idea of how this is going
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  Speaker 3: to affect us, I have yet to decide if I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to use my... I keep calling it my blood money.
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  Speaker 3: It's my plasma money. That's my personal spending money. I
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  Speaker 3: have yet to decide if I want that to be
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  Speaker 3: used for the ultimate tier for one year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't decided yet. but the problem is that email
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  Speaker 3: does not give a, like, Hey, this offer is good
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  Speaker 3: until whatever date, you know? Um, so I might, it
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  Speaker 3: might pass me up, honestly. Um, I'll download it. I'll
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  Speaker 3: take a gander at it. Um, if it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is ever needed for us to grab a book, uh,
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  Speaker 3: That I am unwilling to go out of my way.
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  Speaker 3: To go purchase in person. Which for the most part.
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  Speaker 3: We have done that for everything. Because physical media is superior.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 3: But the one thing that I also wanted to share here.
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  Speaker 3: Is that. If I can exit out of this photo.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on. It says here. Because a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: were worried that all of the books were going to
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  Speaker 3: be scrolling content. It says here, they will carry the
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  Speaker 3: same digital library that Unlimited hosted. More than 35,000 comics
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  Speaker 3: rebuilt for mobile and web with both traditional page turn
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  Speaker 3: reading and vertical scrolling. So, everybody who was hesitant of
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  Speaker 3: this just because of the popularity of webtoons and scrolling content...
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  Speaker 3: there is going to still be traditional reading.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's very important because when they first
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  Speaker 3: advertised the licensing of Marvel comics into the Webtoons app,
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  Speaker 3: they showed what was supposed to be a double page spread.
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  Speaker 3: And it literally showed half the page and then the
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  Speaker 3: other half of the page. And I'm like, that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: give the same effect.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 3: So having traditional page turning is very important for a
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  Speaker 3: lot of more senior readers that are just like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to do the new stuff. Give me
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  Speaker 3: back my old stuff. And I'm perfectly okay with reading
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  Speaker 3: scrolling content. Like there's just some things that really work
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  Speaker 3: well for it. And then there's others that just don't.
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  Speaker 3: So everybody can have their cake and eat it too
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  Speaker 3: with this app. And I think that's good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So that is it for the Marvel Unlimited MCWT news.
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  Speaker 3: The next thing on our list would be Bit Reactor.
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  Speaker 3: So the Bit Reactor news, of course, Bit Reactor is
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  Speaker 3: the studio that, of course, came out with Star Wars
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  Speaker 3: Zero Company. They did release a message today. They put
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  Speaker 3: out a little press release here from CEO Greg Forts. F-O-E-R-T-S-C-H.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know how to pronounce that. But he says, this
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  Speaker 3: week we started the process of returning more of our
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  Speaker 3: team back to work at BitReactors. an important step forward
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  Speaker 3: in our continued support for Zero Company. This is very
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  Speaker 3: important because one thing that both me and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of other people, Adrian especially, we did mention the fact
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  Speaker 3: that there was still not hardcore bugs in the game,
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  Speaker 3: but Especially on PC, the game would crash constantly. The
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  Speaker 3: client was constantly crashing. And this is something that they
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  Speaker 3: needed some of their furloughed employees to really keep up
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  Speaker 3: the pace on. Bringing them back in will definitely, hopefully,
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  Speaker 3: get that back up and running. It's gotten my copy
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  Speaker 3: of the game almost unplayable. It happens like three or
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  Speaker 3: four times before I'm able to even jump in.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh.
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  Speaker 3: And like at that point, I don't even want to
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  Speaker 3: play anymore because it just keeps crashing and crashing and crashing.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm hopefully able to get back into it here
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  Speaker 3: pretty soon. They also say having to ask team members
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  Speaker 3: to step away after we navigated unexpected business developments outside
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  Speaker 3: of our control and so close to launch was an
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  Speaker 3: incredibly difficult decision, but one that was necessary to help
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  Speaker 3: us eventually bring as many people back as possible. This
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  Speaker 3: team means a tremendous amount to me and I am
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  Speaker 3: incredibly proud of what we have accomplished together. Thank you
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  Speaker 3: for our fans, for the incredible response to the game
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  Speaker 3: and for supporting us along this journey. We look forward
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  Speaker 3: to sharing more updates regarding Bit Reactor and Zero Company soon.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I hope what this means is they don't stop
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  Speaker 3: at just some of our members because that was a bit,
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  Speaker 3: that was, uh, you know, the first statement of this
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  Speaker 3: press release was that returning more of our members. They
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  Speaker 3: didn't say all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: More. I'm hoping because like one thing that I am
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  Speaker 3: starting to see a lot of in the gaming industry
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  Speaker 3: is like the big two Sony, Microsoft slash Xbox are
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  Speaker 3: like basically saying, Hey, which one of us can, you know,
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  Speaker 3: can kill the industry faster. And they're making all of
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  Speaker 3: these really bad decisions and, it's forcing a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these studios to go independent and thankfully because some of
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  Speaker 3: them have good enough fan bases they're able to go
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  Speaker 3: independent i'm not entirely sure i need to do some
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  Speaker 3: research on bit on bitreactor I'm hoping that they are
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  Speaker 3: strong enough to be able to be independent and bring
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  Speaker 3: back some more, if not all, of their team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be really awesome if they're able to.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of studios in programming right now
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  Speaker 1: are leaning on AI to do programming. a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the development. So hopefully they recognize that, hey, AI is
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  Speaker 1: not going to cut it for some things and continue
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  Speaker 1: to bring back the team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But let's go ahead and jump into our next
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  Speaker 3: gaming news, and then it's off to our main topic.
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  Speaker 3: Galactic Racer. This intense game.
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  Speaker 1: My God.
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  Speaker 3: We have 24-hour... numbers here both for steam charts and
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  Speaker 3: twitch so okay current players right now i'm actually going
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  Speaker 3: to refresh it just to yep there we go steam
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  Speaker 3: players right now so this is pc gamers 11 514
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  Speaker 3: currently playing the game right now as we are live
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  Speaker 3: at uh 7 32 p.m eastern standard time A 24-hour
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  Speaker 3: peak of 14,559 players.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so not a ton, because I feel like Zero
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  Speaker 1: Company was more when you said the peak.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have to go back and double-check 24-hour numbers for
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  Speaker 3: Zero Company. All-time peak was at 15,415.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: For Galactic Racer?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Galactic glacier that is all time peak as of yesterday
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  Speaker 3: um we do have uh the store data it is
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  Speaker 3: number 65 now this is way below what zero company
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  Speaker 3: was zero company was able to hit like i think
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  Speaker 3: the top 10.
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  Speaker 1: But i also feel like i also feel like racing
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  Speaker 1: is such a niche like you either like racing games
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  Speaker 1: or you don't like racing.
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  Speaker 3: Games yeah it is very much a niche.
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  Speaker 1: Like i'm Shocker alert, guys. I'm playing Galactic Racer right now. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I have beat the qualifier. Am I on cadet level?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I am. But I'm playing it. I have played it,
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  Speaker 1: I think, for about two hours so far. So.
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  Speaker 3: I have not finished the qualifier because, my God. Again,
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  Speaker 3: we will have more information on the actual gameplay next week.
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  Speaker 3: It is in the top 10 for top sellers. It
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  Speaker 3: is in the top 20 for the wishlist activity. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It currently has 37,000 followers on steam. As far as like, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: we wanted to make sure that we are currently getting
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  Speaker 3: news whenever it pops up. Um, and it currently has
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  Speaker 3: 2063 reviews within 24 hours. Um, so that's pretty cool. Um,
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  Speaker 3: currently Twitch. So this is viewership right now. There is 23,407
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  Speaker 3: people currently watching people play this game.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: 24-hour peak as 33,210 viewers. And the all-time peak of
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  Speaker 3: yesterday was 95,638 viewers for the game Galactic Racer.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome. Really, really good numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask Matt a question.
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  Speaker 3: I am really curious to see how this goes. And
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  Speaker 3: the reason why, the reason why I am curious on
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  Speaker 3: how this goes, and I want to get the actual
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  Speaker 3: quote here, because there is Galactic, not Galactus, Galactic Racer,
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  Speaker 3: There was a.
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  Speaker 1: Where is.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was the day before. It was the
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  Speaker 3: day before the release. Maybe? Replies.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't remember the game I was trying to compare
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  Speaker 1: it to. There's a game that Matt used to play
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: and it was a racetrack type game and Galactic Racer
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of it because of like the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: different challenges you have to face but then also like
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: some of the time trial aspects but then also there's
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of dying. I'm just gonna say it guys.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of dying.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: So the really crazy thing Is I want you to see.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Try mania.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Let's see here. Open in a new tab. And then
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just expand the crap out of this.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: And then I'm going to share my screen real quick, Katie.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: And I want you to see. Okay.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Track mania.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Look how far we've come from pod racing in 1999
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: to pod racing in 2026. Now the 2012 is just
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: a remaster of the 1999. But my God, there's even like.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: A, so were you able to, cause I saw the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: video you sent me. Is that like you can actually
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: pod race during it? Because I've just really experimented with
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the story so far.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: So here's the unfortunate part for me. Currently, because Sony
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: is a bunch of bantha voodoo, I am not paying
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: for online play for PlayStation.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: But there is a multiplayer.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And that's what I wanted to bring up.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, and that played a multiplayer round last night.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And that is more along the lines of traditional, just like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: pod racing. Like, this is just like... But one thing
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: that the Twitter account wanted to bring up, and this
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: is kind of like their copy and paste... uh, answer
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: that they have literally been giving everybody, uh, or like
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the answer to like, Hey, when are we getting this?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And it says here, thank you so much for your feedback.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: And we like to let you, excuse me, you and
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: everyone on this thread know that we hear you. We're
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: working on an update to increase the party size from
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: three to six players and with the aim of releasing
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: it within the first few weeks of launch. More details
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: coming soon.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: The party?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: You can play with friends. Online. Online. There is one
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: problem that I see with this.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Couch co-play, no.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: That's one problem. They need to update this for couch co-op.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: They need to move like more companies need to be
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: more willing to understand the fact that although COVID had
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: us all hiding in our own houses, people within the
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: same house or even close friends still hang out at
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: each other's houses.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: And so couch co-op is something that is needed. There
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: needs to be couch co-op. in these types of games.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Number two, that I saw a lot of people not
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: really loving about this game, but I understand that there
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: is not a given reason, but there is an assumed
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: reason and I'm okay with it. There is no online
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: voice chat for this game.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Because, like, there is a type of mechanic in other
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: games where if you get close enough to an enemy
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: or whatever, then you can start hearing their voice chat.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: That would make more sense for this type of game. Because, like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you're racing. You could be far. away from people. You
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: could be close to what, but the thing is like
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: the toxicity of 2026 into pod racing can be, I
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: feel like very detrimental. Yeah. And very traumatic for people.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: So I understand the reasoning for excluding voice chat. Now,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: the idea of custom races can fix the idea of
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: a party chat because when you make custom races... You
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: can also in Sony's UI, not in the game, but
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: in the PlayStation Sony UI, you can create a voice chat,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: a party, a voice party. And then so then you
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: can just get all of your friends into there and
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: then you all join into the custom race and then
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: you race each other and then you can have fun.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: You can, you know, you talk your big mess and
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: all of that, you know, competitive, be fun. But I
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: understand the reasoning for excluding voice chat in the traditional
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: multiplayer of this game. Because there could be anywhere from
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: 40 to 50 to 60-year-olds playing this game. But there
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: can also be 7, 8, 12, 15-year-olds playing this game.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Hey, and I've heard 15 year olds have a whole
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: lot of, you know, big mouths when it comes to
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: call of duty and all of that stuff. But call
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: of duty is a super toxic game. I don't need that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I don't need that in my galactic racer. I'm already
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: like hearing enough smack talk from these NPC players in
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: this game. Um, and I'm already yelling at myself and
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: my character of like, that's bullshit. Um, when I'm crashing and, uh,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: and or heating up my, uh, my speeder. Cause I'm
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: just trying to, uh, hit the boost too hard. Like
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: it's guys again, this game's intense. It's fun. But it's intense.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: We'll have more information later. But yeah, there's just a
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: few things that I think that this game can definitely
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: improve on when it comes to the extra features. And
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: like I said, we will talk more about our personal
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: journey on this game later on. uh next week because
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: that will be.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And just guys so you can expect i like i
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: said i'm playing cadet mode clay is playing pilot mode
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: so clay is playing a different level of difficulty than
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: i am but i'm also i don't play a lot
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: of video games so i'm doing the best i.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Can we do not at all judge on difficulty give
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: difficulty levels And.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Matt keeps Matt keeps telling me that because he's like,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I want you to be able to play more games
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: with me like this could be fun. And I was like,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: but like I suck. And he was like, yeah, but
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's OK. You're doing the best you can.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: And here's one thing that I think is very stupid
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the evolution of gaming recently is that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: For some reason, there's this mentality that like, hey, you
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: either need to be a professional at gaming or you
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: don't play at all. And I think that's dumb. Because
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: there's also a mentality of, oh, the only reason why
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: you suck is because you're just trying to clip farm
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and you're trying to get clips for TikTok and get views.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: What happened to just sucking? What happened to just like... Hey,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I just don't get this game mechanic. And hey, maybe
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I'm just stupid and can't figure out this puzzle. You know,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: what happened to those moments in gaming? It's very silly.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I just think people, it's a video game. You just
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: need to relax. You just need to have fun. And
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: right now, that's what I'm doing. And I'm hoping, Katie,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: that you're having a lot of fun with it too.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: The biggest issue that I'm running into, guys, is I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: am a stressful video game player. So, like, I literally am, like,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: clamped down on the A button, like, the entire time. Like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I played it for an hour last night and an
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: hour this morning. Because I drive to Greenville for an appointment, guys.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: But my thumb... And my palm are very sore from
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: how intently. Matt's like, you have death grip on this controller.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Are you okay?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Katie, I'm going to tell you this. And I don't
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: know when you'll have the opportunity to do it again.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: But there is an upgrade called Autopilot.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: That's what we saw that we got to because of
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the controller or the next level getting past the qualifier.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: And we saw that there's an autopilot skill. And Matt
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you just need that for right when
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you're about to turn into a wall and you turn
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that on.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I am telling you right now, autopilot is my best
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: friend and my worst enemy. Because it's like, okay, I
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: don't know this map.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Let me rely on the autopilot whenever it's available. So
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I can kind of just view the map, but then
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: it's like, Hey, I forgot how long autopilot lasts. And
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: then boom, I run into a wall because I wasn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: paying attention.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So give me one second. The toddler wants to say
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: good night. Okay.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: So it's, It's a fun game. Again, we will have
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: more information on in detail personal experiences for the game.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: We will tell you guys more about things like the
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: time trials and things like that. There's an eliminator mode.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of cool things with this game. I
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: know that there is a league for the campaign but
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: i would be really interested and and i think like
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: after this we can move on to our main topic
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: but like there's there's a lot to like to be
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: said about how live service games right now are kind
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: of like in treading waters because a lot of them
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: are closing down because we know like hey this is
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: not something that we want but I would really be
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: interested to know how much of the fan base would
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: be willing to say, Hey, we want a live service
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: league for this pod racing game where we can create
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: our own characters, where we can genuinely keep building on
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: our specific racer.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to know if the company that made Galactic
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Racer is even contemplating on if that is something that
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: can actually happen.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's sustainable because I just saw that
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the Mario Kart Tour one actually just shuttered its servers.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So now the game no longer works entirely. I just
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: don't think that's something that's sustainable nowadays, unfortunately. Cause like
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: for me, Matt's like, Oh, you have all these options
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to like customize your speeder and you can do like
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: this pattern or this color. And I'm like, I'm not
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that type of gamer. Like I want to like complete
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: things and like complete the level. And that's about it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: And that's, and that's kind of the thing for me
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: right now is the fact that like Like, you have
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: all of these open options to customize your speeder in
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the campaign. Mm-hmm. But I think that that exact same
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: speeder can be used in multiplayer. I'm not entirely sure.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, it can.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: So it basically goes in with whatever your current configuration is.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. So, so like, it doesn't like really matter
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the campaign, which is right now
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: what I'm mostly interested in.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I'm because of course I'm not paying for online services.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I can't play the multiplayer currently now.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Matt has it for other games.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I am not unwilling to pay for like, three months
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: and play a couple of multiplayer games and then say like, Hey, okay,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I'm done with that. It was a good run. Three
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: months was good enough for me. Now, you know, I
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: won't be paying for this anymore type of thing. But
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: we'll see. We will see for sure. But Katie, that
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: does move us into our main topic. of the night
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: which is of course BBY or ABY Lucasfilm's focus moving
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: forward after the Skywalker saga.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Now Katie.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I have two different responses here from Discord, one from
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Carson and one from Colin. Carson says here, it makes
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of sense from a business standpoint. The sequels
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: made a ton of money and there is low confidence
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: on spinoffs after Mando. I'm wondering if we will get
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: caught up onto the present part of the timeline where
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: almost all movies and TV shows will take place after
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: episode nine. As for continuing the saga, could we see
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a new faction of Jedi called Skywalkers led by Rey?
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I'm a little iffy on the name, but I'm for
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the idea of Jedi being led by Rey. That's me personally.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: It says, maybe Luke has a secret lineage hiding away.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: We will see after Starfighter. And it says here, a
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: new Sith, new armies, new species, new government, it would
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: be interesting if it mirrored the prequel trilogy. Beyond that,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I would love to see a spinoff prequel TV series
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: written by Tony Gilroy about a young Palpatine, similar to
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: the novel.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: So like a Darth Plagueis kind of adaptation.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: In that realm of things. Yeah, I could see that. Um, I,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of in the same boat where I would
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: love to see them go either direction. However, I would
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: personally love it to see if we can leave Palpatine alone.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I know that Palpatine is the villain of the Skywalker saga.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I'm like, okay, let's go
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: our own way kind of thing. I feel like Rey's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: destruction of Palpatine kind of leads us in the direction of, okay,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: she's going off in a new direction. I don't, brought
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: up the fact that I feel like she's taking the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: name Skywalker as kind of like, this is the new
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Jedi Knights and we will create this order of balance.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Like we talked about with the rise of Skywalker was, Hey,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: she's got this yellow blade, which means that they're guardian.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: They're willing to do both directions. So like, I would
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: love it to see if we could, like, I don't
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: mind the name Skywalker as a new Jedi order type
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: of thing personally. So I think that would be fine
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: in that, like, we're still paying homage to the Skywalker
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: saga while still moving forward in a sense. Um, but
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I want to leave Palpatine alone for a good point. Um,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And you can be like, oh, well, Ian is still around.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I get it. But also, the dude is old. He's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: not going to be able to play Palpatine on screen.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: If anything, it's just going to be his voice. Let
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: somebody else, like, leave it alone for a minute. And
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: then maybe revisit it at a later point. Is where
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I'm at with it. So... Um, I, I would love
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to see, these are my two points that I would
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: love to see is I would love to see go
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: continue with the sequel trilogy, which is what it sounds
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: like they're going to be doing with like episode 10
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. Slash. I want to see the birth of
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the Jedi order and how that came to be. I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: want to see the dawn of the Jedi movie that
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: James Mangold was supposed to make.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: That's what I want. I was so excited by that proposition.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: It sounded so fruitful and that, Oh yes, he doesn't
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: have anything on his schedule. This is going to be
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: made a hundred percent and it's dead in the water.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like my, my answer to the ultimate like question
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: of AB wire or BBY for me is a BBY.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: And like, we've explored the high Republic and it's been beautiful.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: It's been fun. Um, And again, the James Mangold idea.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: It harkens back to why I love... There is an old...
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I say old. Reel it back, Clay. Reel it back. 2011,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: there is an animated movie. It's an anthology of Green Lantern.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: And the whole premise, there is an overall story, but
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: then like several green lanterns during this journey are like
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: recounting like old stories of like either personal experiences or like, Oh,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: in green lantern lore, this is what happened. And there
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: is a story of quote unquote, the first lantern. This
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: character in that story is not the actual first lantern
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: that But he is the first Lantern that was able
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: to create constructs. In the story, it's a movie called
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Green Lantern Emerald Knights. And in this flashback of a story,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: there was four chosen individuals to be the first Lanterns.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: They could all you know, do the very like generic,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: like green blasts out of their ring. They could all
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: fly like all the generic stuff that a green lantern
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: is capable of doing. But this character by the name of, uh,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I think, uh, uh, oh gosh, Avra, I think, uh,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: A V R a, uh, he is the first Green
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Lantern to be able to create a construct. And what
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: he is able to create is a giant sword as
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: big as a planet to destroy a ship. And it's
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: really cool. It's a really, really epic scene. I want
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: that for the Jedi. I want to see like the
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: first individuals that were capable of wielding the force, like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: wielding the force shouldn't be that big of a deal, right?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: For these individuals.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Right, because you have so many force-using groups in the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: High Republic Phase 2.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: So the equivalent to that would essentially be the first
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Jedi to wield a lightsaber.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: That's what would be like the thing that elevates the
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Jedi into a, Oh, now we are a fighting force
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: for good. Cause now not only do we have this
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: weapon of the universe, but now we have this personalized
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: weapon that we can, you know, defend ourselves with. And
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: that's what I want. Like I, I don't know why
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: there's a huge sentiment of who really needs the story
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: of how the Jedi were. Who really needs to know
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: about Yoda? The one guy who literally knows and has
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: almost legitimately lived through all of the known Star Wars
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: history that we have. And you don't know, you don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: want to know a thing about him.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like it makes little sense to me that that
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: is a story that has been left off the table
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: for so long. And we got something close to it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I would say with the Dawn of the Jedi book
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that we have actually talked about on this podcast by
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Tim Levin. Um, It's something close to what you and
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I are looking for, in a sense. She doesn't wield
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: a lightsaber, but she is still very much that exploratory
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Jedi that wants to kind of get out there and
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: experiment with things. And so that could really benefit jumping
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: into a new area of what Star Wars is looking for.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: And the fear that we've had for so long with
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Filoni taking charge is that we are going to now
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: shrink down to an area. And that's why this topic
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: is so important is making sure that there are still
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: stories out there that don't involve the Skywalker saga. That
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: don't involve the Mandovers. That still deserve to be told.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: And whether that's. Expanding the writing endeavors. So that some
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: of these authors. Who want to play in this. Can
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: do it in other ways. That would be awesome. But
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I just don't have a lot of faith in Filoni
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Yes. And I think we have both like we've both
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: said why we both trust and do not trust Filoni
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: with the amount of power that he does have. Don't
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: get me wrong. The dude's a nerd. The dude's a
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Star Wars nerd that has his own right in being
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: within the Star Wars company. You know? Yeah. Being able
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: to have a flex of, yeah, I have a regular
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: conversation with George Lucas monthly. Yeah, that's a huge flex. Granted.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: It's huge. Granted, after seeing some of the responses that
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: George gave at his museum.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: When it opened. When they were like, oh man, this
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: came from your brain. How did that happen? I don't know.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I can only imagine Filoni is sitting there with his
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Bluetooth headset, doing other stuff around the house, talking George's
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: ear off, and George just has his phone on speakerphone,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: completely ignoring him and doing other stuff. And then he's like,
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like every once in
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: a while, he's just like, yeah, kind of reassuring Filoni
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: that he's still on the phone. Um, but like, I
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: think genuine, like we've talked about the idea of star
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Wars needing to really, and Lucasfilm, not just star Wars,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: but Lucasfilm, uh, needs to look at the star wars
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: ip as not just a story of the skywalkers but
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: a universe that is full of genre pieces and speaking
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: of uh because i did mention that uh somebody that
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: we as the gua follow because of scoops and everything
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: else is daniel rbk he's Very known in the Twitterverse
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: and online scooper type of mentality in corners of the internet.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: He says, if I were in charge of Lucasfilm, I
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: would do this. Court Denis Villeneuve or Alfonso Curian to
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: direct a Knights of the Old Republic trilogy. I don't
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: know who that second person is.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know who that second person is either.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Alfonso... So, Alfonso directed, oh, he directed Children of Men
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: in 2006, but he also directed Gravity in 2013. Unknown.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: He directed Prisoner of Azkaban.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Prisoner of Azkaban. And one of Abby's favorite movies of
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: all time, The Little Princess of 1995.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Then he says, make Steven Soderbergh's Ben Solo film. Make
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: James Mangold's Jedi Origin film. Make a new Jedi Order
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: trilogy with Rey training the next generation. And he says,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: I would go with somebody like Greta Gerwig, Chloe Zhao,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: or Gina Prince.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: All big fans, yeah.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: To direct. And I definitely wouldn't let simon kinberg write
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: it well i think.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Simon kinberg is talented as a writer i think there's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a reason john watts is the one picked to direct.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Direct exactly um he also says green light a horror
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: star wars movie and let someone like mike flanagan direct
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: and write it yep As far as TV, I'd let
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Damon Lindelof and Bo Willimon each develop a show. Willimon is...
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Let me make sure I am thinking of the right person.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: They were involved in House of Cards. Okay, yeah. Ides
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: of March with Ryan Gosling and George Clooney.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: As well as.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: A.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Master Builder, which I have not seen before.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Doesn't sound familiar, yeah.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: And then the last statement says, just let talented showrunners
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: make Star Wars shows and stop trying to make them
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: feel like movies. Let them be actual TV shows and...
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: set in the star wars universe this is genuinely like
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: legit like no holds bar no trying to sell something
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: to you like i saw somebody who uh uh i
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever seen any of their content
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: on instagram or or anywhere but they kind of got
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: their start on tiktok Their online persona name is Stoobs, S-T-O-O-B-S.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: She's a really big film junkie who loves a lot
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: of nerdy stuff but really likes a lot of the
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: above line content. Movies, directors, writers, cinematography. She is really
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: big into films. And the news about John Watts just
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: made her feel so defeated in like she felt done
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: with Star Wars. And a lot of people are kind
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: of feeling this fatigue with Star Wars. And I genuinely
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: feel it's because of, hey, this one saga that we've
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: said has concluded 16 bajillion times. I think we can
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: have 17 bajillion more stories in between it. And I'm
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: just like, guys, you have a perfectly good outline for
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: a really, like, not even outline. You have a solid saga.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: But when you look at what the very beginning words
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: of every Star Wars movie is, long ago in a galaxy,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: not in a universe... not on a planet, not in
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: a solar system, in a galaxy far, far away, and
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: then you focus on one last name, it makes me
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: want to slam my head against the wall.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Yep, and I get we want to include the characters
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: that brought in powerful situations characters that started these things
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: a long time ago 40 years ago to be precise
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: almost um or actually 50 years yeah excuse me um
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: and i get that we love these characters i love
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: these characters clay loves these characters but you know what
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: we love more original stories that we can fall in
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: love with and continue to fall in love with for
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: another 50 freaking years Yes! 100%!
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Guys, one of the things that was brought up to
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: me in this whole conversation of... I don't know. Did
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: you and Matt watch Lanterns? I have yet to ask
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: you anything about it.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was fantastic.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, so there has been a lot of discourse about
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Kyle Chandler and.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Green Lantern.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, bring Hal Chandler back.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Bring him back.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Just continue bringing him back because he's fantastic. Let the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: man live in peace.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Well, there's like, there's precedent within the comics on like
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: how you can bring Hal back and do all these
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: other things and all of this, right? There's like all
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: of this stuff. And I even see Travis currently talking
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: in the Lantern spoiler chat right now. So, um, there's
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: all of this conversation around Kyle Chandler. Right. And how like,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: should he be brought back? Should he, uh, move like,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: like what they should do with this. Right. And how like,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: you look at a story of iron man robert downey
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: jr there was 10 years of storytelling And then his
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: death happened in Endgame. Spoilers for now a almost 10-year movie. And, like,
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: then he, of course, is... Robert Downey Jr. is coming
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: back for Doomsday. Doctor Doom, right?
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: You look at something like Star Wars. 50 years. 50 years.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: 50 years.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: And 20 years of stories that you threw out the window.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly. You look at Superman. Between the time of
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: his debut in comics to the time of his death.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: We'll just give his death as my point here. That
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: is 60 years for that character to... To be known
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: and loved and all of this other stuff. Right?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Now let's look at Carrie Fisher and Princess Leia. Princess Leia,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Carrie Fisher, died almost 10 years ago now.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: So that's 40 years. 40 years of this character... just
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: being loved and appreciated. And even more stories of that character,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: even after her death, she is a loved character within
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: the franchise. Just like DC comics is more than Superman.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: DC comics is more than Batman. Marvel comics is more
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: than Iron Man. Star Wars is more than the Skywalkers.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Yep. 100%. And I, Like, I think that Lucasfilm has
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: missed the point of Andor, has missed the point of visions.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: When we see what happens when you put faith in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: somebody to develop a story and develop it well and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: give them the resources it takes. And now, don't get
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: me wrong, Andor, like, Acolyte, I love these stories here.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: We're the budgets over the top. Yes, but there is
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: still a way for you to say, hey, here's your money.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Develop a story that works within this budget. If that's okay,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: take it to the movie theater so we can make
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: our money back better than a streaming service television show,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: which we all knew was doomed to fail anyways. It
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: is what it is. But make those movies instead of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: making a TV show with it. Like Daniel said, treat
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: a TV show like a freaking TV show and stop
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: acting like it's supposed to be this big budget production
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: movie situation. We can make these characters that we know
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: and love and have original stories with them and develop
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: new cult classics instead of of retelling the same damn
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: story over and over again.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Now, what I kind of.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: I wanted to bring up also, because this thought literally
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: hit my brain this morning. Because I was like, okay,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about this topic in particular.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Let me think about more reasons why I want this
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: to happen within Lucasfilm and everything else. And I want
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: to go back to... last week's episode when i said
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: again this is just a rumor currently but there is
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: rumored to be two 2d animated movies as well as
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: one cgi animated pixar-ish type of film yep i think
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: although again animation is for everybody not just for kids
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: I want to reiterate that, but I think because of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: the boomer mentality that cartoons are just for kids, they're
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: going to take this the wrong way. Making genre films
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: for just animated is still the wrong way to go.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Like I'm going to be excited. If they announce these
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: three animated movies and they have nothing to do with
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: the Skywalker saga, awesome. You're not going to get eyes
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: on those three films because you are not trusting your
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: own IP with the greater audience. Because you yourself, as
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: a studio, believe that cartoons are just for kids. That's
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: the unfortunate thing.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: And I just kind of want to talk on that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: because I saw one of my favorite authors has agreed
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: to license one of their best trilogies to the company
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Real Shorts. Which is basically like a TikTok episode. Vertical... Oh, God.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Vertical media. And I just shook my head at it.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're... making these commitments to tell a story.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: And is this really the way you want to tell
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the story? Like, especially they're like, we don't agree with
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: generative AI, except when it can be used to avoid
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: hurting people or animals. Like they talked about how the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: wife of this husband, wife duo is, was traumatized by
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: a Soviet Union movie that had a real horse that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: broke its leg in the movie and they left that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: horse in the movie. And how she was traumatized by it.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: So they're like, in this case, we would agree. AI
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: is a good use here. I'm like, okay, fine. But
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: it's like, we're choosing to tell stories now to match
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: an audience's perspective here that is is that really the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: audience we want to capture yeah at the end of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the day and it just brings me back to the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: whole star wars conversation because star wars is going back
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: into this lazy storytelling aspect where we've said okay all
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: of these original stories cost too much and they're too
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: complex for this new generation to adapt to that's not
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the way to tell a story.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate it. I absolutely hate it. Yeah.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot of people and unfortunately
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: I'm in this mentality of I'll believe it when I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: see it. But there is this idea that due to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: everything kind of going wrong Into of course this new.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: In shitification. In the entertainment. Industry. Yeah. That there's going
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: to be a renaissance. Again. Unfortunately just due to the.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: In shitification of everything. I'll believe it when I see it.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: And I hope. I genuinely hope. Because the moment. That
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: I genuinely see. Star Wars is political, so I'm just
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: going to go ahead and say this. The way that
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Mandani is bringing this new wave of happiness over New
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: York or New York City, I can't wait until we
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: have individuals like that in certain industries. If I could
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: have a Mandani... in Lucasfilm or Mamdani just in Hollywood
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: in general.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Like, and actually see evidence of that and like uplifting
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: and like genuinely like saying like, Hey, art is before
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: money the way that it always should have been. And
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: the money will come like that. I need to see
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: that again before I die, please.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: But I genuinely hope that in the near future, we
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: see this renaissance of... Because I think with that renaissance,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: we'll have the clarifying... Hey, we have an entire IP
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: that's based off of a galaxy... and not this one
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: thing called the new republic or not this one entity
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: called the jedi or hey not because you even.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Have you even have like the chis ascendancy trilogy out
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: there where you're like this is a whole government out
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: here and they deal with all these different things like
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: that is i think the trilogy we're going to make
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: sure to cover in 2027 have fun with this clay
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: yes but i like there's so much potential out there
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: for the unknown regions the empire like if you wanted
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: to say oh like the the empire in the unknown
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: regions when they go off after aftermath and alphabet squadron
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: kind of thing like There's so much out there that's
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: rich storytelling that is not just the New Republic. You
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: could do the New New Republic. The Old Republic.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Like, genuinely? Like, let's go back to the, like, biggest
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: rumors of 2010s. Knights of the Old Republic. The Old Republic. Like, this...
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: That era of Legends has been so untouched.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Literally.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Like, almost to a point of, like, it's becoming relics.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: It's genuinely just sitting, becoming dust. It's not... The dust
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: has long since been settled.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Becoming Dust.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Nine books in Star Wars Legends. If you include Dawn....
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: If you include Dawn of the Jedi. Nine books. Before
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Darth Plagueis.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: That's it. I think that you could legitimately... Go into that.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: And make it canon.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: And... like the Sith Wars.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Yes. Like it's, it's been like, cause, cause that was
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: one of the things that even like Travis and the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: guys over at the geek verse kind of, uh, touched
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: upon of like this new era of star Wars. Like
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: what if it's this like doom and gloom, like, like, cause,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: cause Travis is always like, Oh, not, not the dark
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: days again. Like not, not the dark times again. But, like, genuinely,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: at this point, we want something so, like, original that
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: it's unoriginal to a point of, like, bring in a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: new wave of Sith. Like, an overwhelming, like, hey, this
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: is Empire Strikes Back before even A New Hope. Like,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: this is not Revenge of the Sith. This is the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: return of the Sith, you know, type of thing. And
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I would say go for it because we need something.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I need something.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: And I think going alongside the idea of what I
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: was saying with the first Jedi or whatever, the whole
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: freaking idea of the Star Wars galaxy to even... Again,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: I love that every single conversation I.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Am a part of in this podcast goes back to
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: the Freddie Prince jr. Interview. He says it's all about balance.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: So even if we are introduced to the first Jedi,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: we then have to be introduced to the first set.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Like it's so it's just, it's all there. It is
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: literally star Wars writes itself sometimes. And you don't even
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: have to try to, But people, and I say people,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: I mean these suits, these people in charge are so
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: infatuated with, oh, well, can we just make a billion
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: dollars again by doing the same thing that we did
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: so that way people will spend a billion dollars again?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: That's not how that works. That has never been how
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: it works.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: You make a billion dollars by making the thing That
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: becomes a cult classic. Or by telling such a good story.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: That you have good word of mouth. That then makes
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: you that.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: I want to know. Has there ever been. A genuine.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Can lightning strike twice? When was the last time.
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  Speaker 2: In movies. That.
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  Speaker 3: That, hey, we've made a billion dollars, and we made
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  Speaker 3: another billion dollars, and we made another billion dollars, and
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  Speaker 3: it be a carbon copy of itself. Avatar?
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  Speaker 1: Fuck.
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  Speaker 3: I hate that series so much. I hate it. God
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  Speaker 3: damn it, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: But am I wrong?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're not wrong. That's so dumb. Oh, I hate it. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's where we have to end the podcast. Honestly. God. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we've kind of hit the circle.
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  Speaker 3: So, but like my, my whole point is the fact
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  Speaker 3: that like, we, we need originality. We need creativity and like,
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  Speaker 3: We see the fatigue in even the people involved in
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  Speaker 3: the creative process when the suits get involved and they're like, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: do that thing again. And they're like, that's not what
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  Speaker 3: the plan was, but okay. You're going to regret this.
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  Speaker 3: Like again, look at Joker too. I think that's one
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  Speaker 3: of the biggest things for me is like, you look
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  Speaker 3: at Joker and then you look at Joker too. And
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  Speaker 3: you're just like, That's when you got too greedy.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And literally both your director and actor said, nah, I
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: don't want to do this again. And then you offered
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: them a crap ton of money that said, do this again.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what you get. All right. Thanks for the check.
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  Speaker 3: Peace out.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong. I think Lady Gaga is
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: a better actress than she is a singer. And I
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: still hate a joke or two.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: Wild. All right, guys. Well, that is it for the podcast.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: I hope you guys lasted this long. I'm going to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: have to clip that. I'm going to have to clip Avatar. Oh, man.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: But guys, if you could please, please, please go and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: give us a follow over on Instagram and threads. Of course,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: you could find myself over on Instagram and threads as well. Um,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: there is going to be a new episode of Ranger
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Alliance this upcoming Monday. So be on the lookout for
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: that as well. Uh, but yeah. Uh, Katie, what about you?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Y'all, you can find me on most social media platforms.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: It's actually Katie. Remember, uh, like Clay said, you can
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: go give us a follow on Instagram and really threads
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Instagram and threats. That's about it. Even though this header
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: that I'm about to put up says find us on
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: blue sky and Instagram, you can't find us on blue sky.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: We, we need to change that to it for it
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: to be threats. That's what we have to do.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Um, so yeah, that's where you can find us. Uh,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: we love hearing from you guys. We've got a Soka
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: coming up at the beginning of the year. Tell us
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: what you're excited about. Are you excited to see the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Mortis gods at play? A question mark. Um, Is there,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: are you like us and are like, why is there
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: a shadow Lord Darth Maul season two? Question mark. Tell us.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you guys. I know we're
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: really bad at social media, but we do read the
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: notifications that we get. I promise.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Yes, we do. And again, just like Colin and Carson said,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: You can always join the Geekverse Discord, where we all
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: kind of hang out. I am very active in the
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: Star Wars, Marvel, video game, and general chats.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: And if you at me, I'll respond.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Katie has done the very responsible thing and said, like, hey,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: social media... gonna step away for a little bit yeah
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: i i have not been able to be so bold
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: uh but yeah.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Um guys for the rest of the month what you
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: can expect so like i said we are talking first
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: week thoughts of galactic racer uh clay and i are
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: trying to kind of experiment in a little bit of
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: everything and try and see what goes on so we
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: can talk through that review for you guys next week.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: And then on the 22nd, we are finally doing our
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Master of Evil second review where Katie actually listens to
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: the whole book and processes everything with the brand new
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: information from a year ago that Clay revealed in the
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: review and That I still haven't gone back and listened to.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: So that is the plan for October 22nd, guys. And
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: then for Halloween, we are talking George Mann's Star Wars
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Dark Legends. And going through that mythology book for Star Wars.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: So that's what you can look forward to this month.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: So with that, I want to wish everyone a great
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: day or night. Whatever time of day you are listening to.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: whatever time of day you are listening to or watching
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: us and we will see y'all next time may the
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  Speaker 1: force be with you hello everyone welcome back to another
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: episode of star wars alliance your home on the geek
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: ultimate alliance podcast network for any and all things star
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  Speaker 1: wars and i just realized my mic is unplugged um
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  Speaker 1: so