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Chuck in the Morning 8-3 Hour 4: The Dodgers vs everyone, Breaking Mariners trade news and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good morning to you all. The sun
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Speaker 1: is out here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center training camp,
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Speaker 1: getting ready to start again a new today, as we
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Speaker 1: have you covered right here at Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: point three KJRFM, your favorite radio station in the galaxy.
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Speaker 1: My name is Chuck, Paul Ashley Ryan with you as
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Speaker 1: well as we start a brand new week of training
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Speaker 1: camp coverage. But today today, not much training camp day talk. Frankly,
0:39
Speaker 1: I'm just in trade deadline mode and no one can
0:43
Speaker 1: get me out of it. Emmanuel Wilson tried to tackle
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Speaker 1: me a little earlier, tried to give me, uh not
0:49
Speaker 1: well for him, no good, No, right now he's tied
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Speaker 1: to a goalpost.
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Speaker 2: I'll try to teach you to keep us away from mlbtre.
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Speaker 1: Much younger, he's yeah, he's much younger. He's much stronger,
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Speaker 1: he's much more agile.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got he's got a lot of advantages over me.
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Speaker 1: But you know what he doesn't have. What's that art
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Speaker 1: part like I do for the trading deadline? Yeah? Well yeah,
1:16
Speaker 1: just makes me superhuman really, and so anyway, somebody's gonna
1:22
Speaker 1: have to untie him before practice starts today. Uh, and
1:26
Speaker 1: we are going to talk some more Major League Baseball
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Speaker 1: trading deadline for our final hour here today. Again, nothing
1:34
Speaker 1: so far from the Mariners. There have been a couple
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Speaker 1: of trades already here this morning. The Phillies have acquired
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Speaker 1: all star Luisa Rise from the San Francisco Giants for
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Speaker 1: a couple of prospects, not a big not a big
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Speaker 1: price tag there for Luisa Rise. More on that in
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Speaker 1: a moment. Jose Soriano also traded today. Very peculiar thing
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Speaker 1: there as well, where the Toronto Blue Jays sold on
2:00
Speaker 1: Kevin Gosman yesterday to the Chicago Cubs, and yet they
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Speaker 1: bought on Jose Soriano from the Blue Jays and gave
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Speaker 1: up their second best prospect in their organization today. Didn't
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Speaker 1: make sense right off the bat, but you only have
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Speaker 1: to dig one layer deep and find where it does
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Speaker 1: make sense. They are not in it for this year,
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Speaker 1: but have decided that, hey, there's our opportunity to get
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Speaker 1: a starting pitcher for next season. Things didn't come together
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Speaker 1: for us, but we believe in our roster. I mean
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Speaker 1: it came within a cleat of winning the World Series
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Speaker 1: a year ago. I don't know why we've been so
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Speaker 1: bad this year, but we're not planning to be bad
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Speaker 1: next year. This might be our opportunity to get a
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Speaker 1: good quality pitcher who's under club control in Soriano. Where
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Speaker 1: Gosman he's going to be gone at the end of
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Speaker 1: the year, and so we might as well trade him
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Speaker 1: for a piece. So that's why they did that. As
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Speaker 1: far as the Arise piece in all of this said,
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Speaker 1: I'd circle back for this reason. We were talking about
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Speaker 1: whether or not the Mariners should buy today, and I
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Speaker 1: think that they should think they should be buyers. Think
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Speaker 1: they owe it to themselves. You know, I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's Look. Yes, I believe that the fan base deserves
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Speaker 1: for you to look for every opportunity to get to
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Speaker 1: the World Series every single year, especially until you finally
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Speaker 1: do get there. So I think the fan base deserves it,
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Speaker 1: but I think the organization deserves that the players deserve it.
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Speaker 1: I think Jerry and Justin owe it to themselves. They
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Speaker 1: really felt they'd put together their best roster to date
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Speaker 1: here in the Depoto era, and yeah, it hasn't gone
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Speaker 1: the way they've wanted it to go. They're three games
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Speaker 1: under five hundred, for goodness, sake, but only three games
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Speaker 1: out in the division, only two games out in the
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Speaker 1: wild card. I still believe in the roster. They just
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Speaker 1: have not played well this year. But we saw a
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Speaker 1: little bit of urgency on Saturday and Sunday, so maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe we're in store. We still got two months remaining
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Speaker 1: on this Major League Baseball season, and Ashley, I think
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Speaker 1: forget fans, forget me, forget you. I think Jerry and
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Speaker 1: Justin owe it to themselves in the organization not to
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Speaker 1: abandon this thing at this stage.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, especially to the fans in the organization.
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Speaker 3: The fans, I would say, mostly because it's so like
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Speaker 3: just the idea that what the fans really kind of
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Speaker 3: have put up with over the years, and the idea
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Speaker 3: that we're not out of it and we're close. And
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Speaker 3: if you were to sell Kirby and a Rose Arena
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Speaker 3: and then now, so, I mean, I would be done
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Speaker 3: watching baseball for the next two months, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I want them to go for it.
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Speaker 1: And but but but if they really are balking at
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Speaker 1: the prices, and a lot of people are for right
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Speaker 1: handed hitting, which seems to be the most valued commodity,
4:53
Speaker 1: it's always starting pitching, but this year it seems to
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Speaker 1: be right handed hitting is the valued commodity on the
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Speaker 1: trade market. So if people are just driving too hard
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Speaker 1: a bargain for right handed hitting, we need offense. I
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Speaker 1: don't mind making the move to the left handed hitter
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Speaker 1: like the Yankees did. The Yankees needed a right handed
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Speaker 1: hitter more than they needed a left handed hitter, but
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Speaker 1: they made that move. And so if cj. Abrams is available,
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Speaker 1: see what it takes to get him. Just see what
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Speaker 1: it takes. Yeah, yeah, cask, Yeah, you might as well ask.
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Speaker 1: Of course, we did trade Luis Castillo, so we might
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Speaker 1: not be thinking about trade and Emerson Hancock, which might
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Speaker 1: have been a big part of that. But if there's
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Speaker 1: a left handed hitter, I know we're adding Donovan, which
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Speaker 1: is another left handed hitter, back to the equation. And
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Speaker 1: I know we're vulnerable, but any kind of upgrade offensively
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Speaker 1: i'd appreciate between now and three o'clock, and I think
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Speaker 1: the majority of the fan base would as well. But
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Speaker 1: we'll sit here and wait and see. Mode we have
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Speaker 1: six more hours. This is supposed to be a wild
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Speaker 1: and crazy day. I'm sure that it's going to be.
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Speaker 1: I mean, normally on trade deadline day, we don't even
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Speaker 1: get a move to discuss on our show, and you
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Speaker 1: know before ten o'clock. And this year, even with the
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Speaker 1: deadline being extended into three pm today, we are still
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Speaker 1: already getting moves this morning. So I think it's going
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Speaker 1: to be a crazy day. And I hope for reasons
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Speaker 1: of adding that the Mariners are involved between now and three.
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Speaker 1: But let's talk about Trek's scooble, because this is the
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Speaker 1: big conversation, not just in baseball, but in the entire
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Speaker 1: sports world. And Trek Scooble got moved, of course, from
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Speaker 1: the Detroit Tigers to the Los Angeles Dodgers. Over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: It was the trade everybody was waiting for. What it
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Speaker 1: unlocked the market. It certainly has. And I said on
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Speaker 1: Friday with Travis Moger filling in for Ashley, that we
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Speaker 1: went through a few possibilities of what's going to happen
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Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I did say I want him
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Speaker 1: to go to Milwaukee. I would love for schoobl and
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Speaker 1: Miz to try to take out the Dodgers in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna go to the Los Angeles
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Speaker 1: Dodgers and that's exactly where he ended up. And so
7:14
Speaker 1: there's this big conversation over the weekend about how broken
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Speaker 1: baseball is, and certainly I want to address that there
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Speaker 1: are there are gonna be a few opinions, So you're
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Speaker 1: gonna hear the rest of the As a matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: this is the only time you're gonna hear this opinion
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Speaker 1: all day long on KJR, because the immediate reaction started,
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Speaker 1: you know, from friends of ours, Kevin Shockey. I saw
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Speaker 1: it first, our old KJR employee, very smart guy, very
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Speaker 1: good baseball guy. And then I turn on the radio
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Speaker 1: this morning. The first thing I hear from a national
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Speaker 1: guy is the same take that Kevin Shockey had. And
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Speaker 1: then I saw that the same take earlier this morning
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Speaker 1: when he woke up and was thinking about this. And
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Speaker 1: I promise you Ian's gonna have this take in his show,
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna have the Mollywop guys on and they're
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Speaker 1: gonna have the same take. And I'm here to tell
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Speaker 1: you that even though I love and respect all of
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Speaker 1: those guys as friends, well I don't know if I'm
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Speaker 1: friends with the Mollywop guys, but friends and co workers,
8:26
Speaker 1: and they do great jobs on their shows, and you
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Speaker 1: should listen every single second of every single day. They're
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Speaker 1: wrong about this. They're wrong. They've got the wrong take
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Speaker 1: on this, every single one of them. And this goes
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Speaker 1: for a lot of you listening right now as well
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Speaker 1: that have this same take, and that take is that
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers aren't what's wrong in baseball. It's everybody else
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Speaker 1: and not spending and not getting Trek Schouble that's wrong
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Speaker 1: with major League Baseball, and that is just inaccurate. The
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Speaker 1: Dodgers are the problem right now in Major League Baseball,
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Speaker 1: so much so that the league is allowing the Dodgers
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Speaker 1: to do this. They want the Dodgers to do this.
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Speaker 1: It's why they haven't cracked down on some of their
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Speaker 1: moves that they've made over the years, including all of
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Speaker 1: their deferred payments, which we'll get to in a moment.
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Speaker 1: They want them to make the system appear broken because
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Speaker 1: they are getting ready for a collective bargaining agreement like
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Speaker 1: never before in the history of the sport. They want
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Speaker 1: a salary cap like the NFL has a salary cap,
9:33
Speaker 1: like the NBA has a salary cap, the NHL. Everybody's
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Speaker 1: got a salary cap, but Major League Baseball, and those
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Speaker 1: leagues don't have to deal with ninety percent of their
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Speaker 1: fan bases complaining and belly aching about their owner being
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Speaker 1: cheap and not spending enough money to make them more competitive.
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Speaker 1: And there is an argument on the other side, which
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Speaker 1: was shared by Ken Rosenthal and Bob Costas last night
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Speaker 1: during the broadcast of the Red Sox and Dodgers game,
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Speaker 1: in which the argument that is going to be used
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Speaker 1: by the Players Association and many others is that the
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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers have a better record than the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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Speaker 1: They do, and they are a small market club. But
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Speaker 1: that has never been my point, not on this radio station,
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Speaker 1: because I know that the smaller market teams can be
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Speaker 1: competitive with the big market clubs like the Mets and
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the New York Yankees. They can be
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Speaker 1: a competitive with them. Can they crank out the annual
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Speaker 1: team that should be a powerhouse, No, but they can
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Speaker 1: be competitive. And I think that history has proven that.
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Speaker 4: There is more There is more balance in Major League
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Speaker 4: Baseball in terms of who wins the World Championship and
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Speaker 4: who wins that makes the playoffs than there is in the.
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Speaker 1: National Football League. That is a statistical fact. Yeah. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so that is all true what Ken Rosenthal and Bob
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Speaker 1: Costers are saying last night. But what Baseball has to
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Speaker 1: contend with that other leagues don't have to contend with,
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Speaker 1: is that their customers don't believe that that's true. Their
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Speaker 1: customers believe that it is broken and unfair, and that
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Speaker 1: their team does not stand a chance, and they would
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Speaker 1: stand a chance if only their cheap ass owners would
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Speaker 1: get off their duffs and spend money on the product.
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Speaker 1: That's what the belief is with about nine out of
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Speaker 1: ten baseball fans or even baseball detractors, people that don't
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Speaker 1: watch baseball because of this reason. Baseball, as I've repeated
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Speaker 1: numerous times, has a perception problem. It's not a competitive
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Speaker 1: balance problem. It is a perception problem. Their customers perceive
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Speaker 1: that the only reason that their favorite team can't win
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Speaker 1: the World Series is because their owner is cheap. And
11:51
Speaker 1: that goes from the New York Yankees to the Seattle
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Speaker 1: Mariners all the way down to the Tampa Bay Rays.
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Speaker 1: And so when people respond with the problems not the Dodgers,
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Speaker 1: it's everyone else, it's an inaccurate statement, because the Dodgers
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Speaker 1: are the outliers in all of this. There are small
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Speaker 1: market clubs in Major League Baseball. They all act like
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Speaker 1: small market clubs. Mid market clubs, they all act like
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Speaker 1: mid market clubs. Large market clubs, they all act like
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Speaker 1: large market clubs. There are only two outliers in the sport.
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Speaker 1: The San Diego Padres, a small market club that's been
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Speaker 1: trying to act like a big market club and they
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Speaker 1: filled their stands. I mean, there's a fever in San Diego.
12:38
Speaker 1: Most of that has to do with the Chargers leaving,
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Speaker 1: but there is a fever for Padres Baseball in San Diego.
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Speaker 1: But the only reason they started acting that way is
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Speaker 1: because their owner had a dying wish, literally a death
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Speaker 1: wish to win a World Series before he passed away.
12:55
Speaker 1: He was diagnosed with a terminal illness and he was
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Speaker 1: going to take his children and c and children some
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Speaker 1: of their inheritance and try to win a World Series
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Speaker 1: before he passed away. And unfortunately, because he's apparently a
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Speaker 1: very nice guy, he didn't beat the clock. And now
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Speaker 1: his team is up for sale, and the San Diego
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Speaker 1: Padres are gonna go to a team, go to an
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Speaker 1: owner who's gonna run it like a small market club.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it would not be this way one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent across the board if there wasn't some truth to
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Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Brewers can't really afford or the Detroit Tigers
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Speaker 1: can't afford to keep Trek Scoobel on a sixty million
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Speaker 1: dollars per year contract. There's gotta be some truth to it,
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Speaker 1: otherwise the entire league would not act this way. And
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Dodgers are on the other side. They
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Speaker 1: are the outlier on the other side because they don't
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Speaker 1: just act like a big market club. They act like
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Speaker 1: a big market club on steroids. They have one point
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Speaker 1: one billion dollars in player salaries deferred to the future.
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Speaker 1: One billion dollars deferred to the future. Why on earth
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Speaker 1: is this being allowed by Major League Baseball? Because they
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Speaker 1: want to crash and burn. They want it to look
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Speaker 1: like it's so unfair that people will agree to a
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Speaker 1: salary cap in the contract negotiation. So what does that
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Speaker 1: one point one billion dollars in deferred payments do. Well,
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Speaker 1: it makes the Dodgers unfairly advantageous in free agency because
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Speaker 1: they're not even spending real money right now. They're ruining
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Speaker 1: the entire marketplace in free agency because they're using money
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Speaker 1: that they don't even have to pay right now. They're
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Speaker 1: deferring it into the future and apparently are going to
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Speaker 1: suffer for it someday. But I guarantee you they've got
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Speaker 1: a plan for why they won't suffer from it someday.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know what it is, and no other
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Speaker 1: team knows what it is either, because although some have
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Speaker 1: used the deferred payment system, nobody is anywhere close to
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Speaker 1: where the Dodgers are. And that gets us to the
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Speaker 1: Schoobal trade, because this is what is not being mentioned
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Speaker 1: by all of those that believe that the problems not
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, it's everyone else in the sport, and that
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Speaker 1: is this. When Scooble is available, the Dodgers just get
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Speaker 1: to sit back and wait for best offer. The Milwaukee
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Speaker 1: Brewers wanted Trek Scooble. The Milwaukee Brewers know he's not
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Speaker 1: going to stay. They can't afford him, so they truly
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Speaker 1: are only going to rent him for two months and
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they were willing to pay a premium.
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Speaker 1: The premium is a guy with an expiring contract two
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Speaker 1: months of je Soto was worth three decent prospects a
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Speaker 1: thirty two year old catcher and a reliever. That's what
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Speaker 1: Juan Soto went when he went from the Nationals to
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Speaker 1: the Padres. Juan Soto went for five prospects who the
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Speaker 1: Nationals are rebuilding around, but with only two months left
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Speaker 1: on the deal, they only got three decent prospects, a
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Speaker 1: thirty two year old backup catcher and a relief pitcher
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Speaker 1: with starting pitcher upside in Michael King and he's turned
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Speaker 1: out for the San Diego Padres. But that's the value,
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Speaker 1: that's as that's as rich a trade offer has ever
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Speaker 1: been given for a rental in the history of the sport. Well,
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers ended up giving up two top prospects, one
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Speaker 1: great one, a top twenty five guy, and another one
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Speaker 1: who's considered a top fifty guy who the Tigers apparently
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Speaker 1: like even more than the top twenty five guy, plus
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Speaker 1: a third prospect. So that is market value and a
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Speaker 1: little bit more for a rental in Major League Baseball,
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Speaker 1: And yet everybody's saying everybody should have spent more. The
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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers are gonna get two months out of school,
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Speaker 1: and they're supposed to give away fourteen years of control
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Speaker 1: over their two of their best prospects. They're just not
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Speaker 1: going to do it. Where the Dodgers have the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to say, we'll do it. We'll top any offer that
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Speaker 1: you get, because not only can we pay Schooble, we
17:16
Speaker 1: are going to keep him. I mean, you're gonna give
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Speaker 1: a lot more for a guy that you know you're
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Speaker 1: gonna keep beyond two months, are you not? Well, the
17:24
Speaker 1: Dodgers just sit in this catbird seat and say, tell
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Speaker 1: us what their best offer is, we'll top it. And
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Speaker 1: not only do we get the player, we don't run
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Speaker 1: the risk of losing him because we know we're gonna
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Speaker 1: re sign him, even if we have to defer three
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Speaker 1: trillion dollars into the future. We'll resign him. He'll stay
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Speaker 1: a Dodger. He'll love it here. He'll want to play
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Speaker 1: with Freeman, he'll want to play with Otani, he'll want
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Speaker 1: to be a Dodger, he'll want to live in southern California.
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Speaker 1: And we're gonna make him a very rich man. Do
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Speaker 1: you not see the unfair advantages that they have around
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Speaker 1: They already had gross unfair advantages by the fact that
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Speaker 1: they were one of the three largest market teams in
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Speaker 1: the entire sport, and now they have all of these
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Speaker 1: other advantages which lead to other advantages. It's an avalanche
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Speaker 1: of advantages that they have and they use over the
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Speaker 1: sport right now, and Baseball's letting it happen because they
18:21
Speaker 1: want them to win three straight titles so that the
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Speaker 1: world believes that the game is unfair and needs a
18:29
Speaker 1: salary cap. And they want a salary cap because from
18:33
Speaker 1: a pr standpoint, a salary cap will tell all of
18:38
Speaker 1: their customers that our playing landscape is finally fair and
18:43
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about everyone in every market
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Speaker 1: that doesn't win a World Series complaining the only reason
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Speaker 1: that they didn't is because their owners are cheap. So
18:53
Speaker 1: that is why everyone is wrong about everybody else is
18:58
Speaker 1: the problem in baseball and not the Dodgers. No, it's
19:02
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Not only is it the Dodgers, the Major
19:07
Speaker 1: League Baseball is using them as an example of how
19:10
Speaker 1: wrong it actually is so that they can change the
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Speaker 1: entire system. So yeah, erk scouble to the Dodgers. Sucks.
19:19
Speaker 1: It's awful, and it's probably going to lead to a major,
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Speaker 1: major lockout. We're probably going to be without baseball for
19:27
Speaker 1: a year and a half because of what the Dodgers
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Speaker 1: are doing to this sport, Ashley, I know I took
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Speaker 1: up the entire time, but that there you have it.
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Speaker 1: I just regurgitated it all out on the floor for you.
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Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing that bothers me is about
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Speaker 3: that the deferred contract. So what happens if they can't
19:42
Speaker 3: pay it? Then they just file for bankruptcy and.
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Speaker 1: Then I have no idea how any years.
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Speaker 3: You figure out, Oh, maybe we shouldn't have let them
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Speaker 3: defer all those contracts.
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Speaker 1: Nobody knows. Nobody knows how they're going to pay for this, yeah, included,
19:55
Speaker 1: I'm sure that the Dodgers have an idea. But the
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Speaker 1: idea would be that we we increase the value of
20:01
Speaker 1: the organization so highly that we sell it and then
20:04
Speaker 1: we just use that to spin them to pay off
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Speaker 1: our debt. I mean, that's how they would do it.
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Speaker 1: But but I mean, is that really you know? That's
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Speaker 1: the way. I mean, the crocodile tears that are shed
20:18
Speaker 1: for baseball players not making enough money is just hard
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Speaker 1: for me to fathom. And the only reason that that
20:25
Speaker 1: even exists is because we don't have a salary cap, right,
20:28
Speaker 1: we had a salary cap. We wouldn't even having these conversations.
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Speaker 2: Everyone would be like, oh, look at how much money
20:33
Speaker 2: they made. That's so much.
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Speaker 3: But it's the idea that you're capping what they're allowed
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Speaker 3: to make a I mean, and especially that it's funny
20:38
Speaker 3: because it comes from fans, right, normal people who are
20:41
Speaker 3: spending an arm and a leg to go to a
20:43
Speaker 3: game to watch all these over paid players. It's like, well,
20:45
Speaker 3: no one's telling them they can't make money. They're gonna
20:48
Speaker 3: make plenty of money in endorsements, They're gonna make plenty
20:50
Speaker 3: of money in their contract. But it is I don't know.
20:53
Speaker 3: And yes, you do need to boost up the floor.
20:55
Speaker 3: I understand that as well. You can't have teams that
20:57
Speaker 3: are minimum. But I feel like everybody agrees on that.
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Speaker 2: That's just obvious.
21:02
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you I mean the Jacksonville Jaguar. A
21:05
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguar fan doesn't blame the NFL because the Chiefs
21:10
Speaker 1: have been better. Yeah, if they blame it on we
21:14
Speaker 1: drafted Blake Bortles, they blame it on you know. But
21:18
Speaker 1: in baseball, Yankee fans complain about the sport and their
21:23
Speaker 1: owners not spending enough money and keeping up with the Dodgers.
21:26
Speaker 1: Yankee fans complain about this, Yes they do. We I mean,
21:30
Speaker 1: I'm never supported to tradeing a salary cap in Major
21:33
Speaker 1: League Baseball, and I started to about two three years ago,
21:36
Speaker 1: and now I'm full in. And it's because of all
21:39
Speaker 1: of this. It is this trek Schooble stuff. Not only
21:42
Speaker 1: do the Dodgers have all these advantages, but within their advantages,
21:45
Speaker 1: they hold so many advantages that lead to other advantages
21:49
Speaker 1: that nobody can keep up with that. And so that's
21:52
Speaker 1: why the sport absolutely has to get a salary cap,
21:55
Speaker 1: even though it's something I have fought for almost my
21:58
Speaker 1: entire broadcasting career.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it just at this point it seems
22:01
Speaker 3: to make the most sense. And again you're not saying like,
22:03
Speaker 3: oh now your salary CAP's going down to one hundred
22:05
Speaker 3: million dollars and no one's making money, Like that's not
22:07
Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
22:08
Speaker 2: People are still gonna be making plenty of money.
22:11
Speaker 1: Raise the floor, yeah, you know, Shrink the ceiling.
22:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, and a little smaller and.
22:17
Speaker 1: Get rid of all of these hidden, you know, ways
22:22
Speaker 1: that the Dodgers exploit the cap. There is no way
22:26
Speaker 1: on earth that there should be deferred pay. Do you
22:29
Speaker 1: realize that that does the free agency when a team
22:31
Speaker 1: can just say, hey, we'll give you more money than
22:33
Speaker 1: they gave you, even if we're not going to pay
22:36
Speaker 1: you the money right now. We're just gonna we're just
22:38
Speaker 1: gonna use artifict. We're just gonna drive up the price
22:40
Speaker 1: because we don't want you to get to that team,
22:42
Speaker 1: even though we don't have any intention to ever really
22:45
Speaker 1: pay you. Yeah, how is that fair? It's not, it's not,
22:51
Speaker 1: it's not. It's a broken system. And Tarrek Scooble is
22:54
Speaker 1: the latest and probably last example that is going to
22:58
Speaker 1: be required for or Major League Baseball to go balls
23:02
Speaker 1: to the wall on a lockout of players in order
23:06
Speaker 1: to get their way with a salary cap going forward.
23:09
Speaker 1: And it could take a long time before they melt
23:12
Speaker 1: that glacier on the players Association side. People need to
23:17
Speaker 1: brace themselves for no baseball next year, which also illustrates
23:22
Speaker 1: why the Mariners should go for it today at the
23:25
Speaker 1: trading deadline because they might not have a season next year.
23:29
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next it is deadline day. We'll
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Speaker 1: give you the very latest Sports Radio ninety three point
23:34
Speaker 1: three KJARFM that's right. The Mariners have made a trade
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Speaker 1: and it is a by trade. So any speculation you
23:42
Speaker 1: had this morning, are we going to be buyers sellers today?
23:45
Speaker 1: What are we going to do now? That doesn't mean
23:47
Speaker 1: that we won't later have a cell move. I don't know,
23:51
Speaker 1: but this one is certainly a buy move, not just
23:54
Speaker 1: a buy move, but a rental as well, which is
23:57
Speaker 1: something they just got comfortable with as an organization a
24:00
Speaker 1: year ago when they acquired Josh Naylor and Gino Suarez
24:04
Speaker 1: at this time last season. But the Mariners have acquired
24:08
Speaker 1: from the Baltimore Orioles outfielder Taylor Ward in a deal
24:14
Speaker 1: we still don't know, or at least I haven't seen. Yes, saw, Okay,
24:17
Speaker 1: you have the details from.
24:19
Speaker 2: What Daniel Kramer is posting.
24:21
Speaker 3: We are sending Alex Hoppey, Brockmore, and Harrison Cryling to
24:25
Speaker 3: the Orioles.
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Speaker 1: None of the top prospects with on a rental. You
24:29
Speaker 1: would expect that, And so there you go. There is
24:33
Speaker 1: the trade without having to touch any you where close
24:36
Speaker 1: to their top prospects. The Mariners have pulled off a
24:39
Speaker 1: trade for a bat, a right handed hitter their biggest need,
24:44
Speaker 1: and a guy that has turned into an on base
24:47
Speaker 1: machine for whatever reason this year with the Baltimore Orioles,
24:52
Speaker 1: thirty two year old outfielder Taylor Ward is the acquisition.
24:57
Speaker 1: And just to give you an idea what I mean
24:59
Speaker 1: by on machineer, he leads the league in walks this year.
25:02
Speaker 1: He has eighty seven of them. He had seventy five
25:05
Speaker 1: all of last year and he already has eighty seven
25:07
Speaker 1: this year. For whatever reason, taylor Ward went underwent some
25:12
Speaker 1: sort of metamorphosis as a hitter in the latter stages
25:16
Speaker 1: of his career this offseason. He hit thirty six home
25:21
Speaker 1: runs for the Angels last year twenty five, the year before,
25:24
Speaker 1: he had established himself as a power hitter in this league,
25:28
Speaker 1: but you had to live with his poor on base percentage.
25:31
Speaker 1: That's who taylor Ward was as recently as twenty twenty five.
25:36
Speaker 1: And then with the Baltimore Orioles on a one year deal,
25:39
Speaker 1: taylor Ward decided, Hey, I gotta get my on base up.
25:43
Speaker 1: I got a one year prove it deal to get
25:45
Speaker 1: me some real money in the offseason. And so with
25:49
Speaker 1: Baltimore he's turned into an on base machine, leading the
25:53
Speaker 1: league and walks. He has a three eighty three on
25:56
Speaker 1: base percentage this year, which is far and away than
26:00
Speaker 1: anyone on the Mariners team. And yet what gives well,
26:05
Speaker 1: in order to get something, apparently he had to give
26:08
Speaker 1: something away. It's like the monkeys paw. In order to
26:11
Speaker 1: become a better on base guy, an on base machine,
26:15
Speaker 1: he pretty much gave up all his power. He has
26:18
Speaker 1: seven home runs this year, seven hit thirty six a
26:22
Speaker 1: year ago, sixty one over the course of the last
26:25
Speaker 1: two years. But he has hit seven home runs this year.
26:29
Speaker 1: So what a strange You don't see players at this
26:32
Speaker 1: stage in their career age thirty two. Suddenly Ashley become
26:36
Speaker 1: a completely different player than what they were a couple
26:38
Speaker 1: of years previous.
26:39
Speaker 3: I know that I'm not like the baseball person, but
26:43
Speaker 3: even I would know that that's an odd thing.
26:46
Speaker 1: That is an odd thing. But but you know what,
26:49
Speaker 1: this team needs a right handed hitter, this team needs
26:52
Speaker 1: an on base guy. I don't know. They probably gonna
26:54
Speaker 1: put him in the lead off with a three eighty
26:56
Speaker 1: three on base percentage for goodness sake. And so he
26:59
Speaker 1: comes to the mayor. He is an outfielder, So now
27:02
Speaker 1: what do you do? Where is he playing? Is he
27:05
Speaker 1: your right fielder? At this stage? Uh, is he replacing
27:09
Speaker 1: a Rose Arena in left field? Does he become your DH?
27:13
Speaker 1: I mean we already have now Julio and center, Randy
27:18
Speaker 1: and left can Zones now an everyday player right and
27:21
Speaker 1: right field. So you've got Donovan coming off the injury
27:24
Speaker 1: list tomorrow. Is Taylor Ward's gonna probably be an everyday
27:30
Speaker 1: player even though he's only hitting to thirty eight against
27:33
Speaker 1: right handers. I'm still a three seventy two on base
27:37
Speaker 1: but under a seven hundred OPS against righty's. Is this
27:40
Speaker 1: just a platoon guy? But against left he's a four
27:43
Speaker 1: to thirteen on base percentage, a four to twenty six
27:47
Speaker 1: slug and an eight thirty nine OPS. So again, we're
27:52
Speaker 1: terrible against the left handed pitching. Taylor Wards should fix
27:56
Speaker 1: that to some degree or help fix that to some degree.
28:00
Speaker 1: And I don't know what if this means he's going
28:02
Speaker 1: to be the DH if he's the left fielder and
28:05
Speaker 1: Randy's the DH, he's the right fielder and Dom's the DH,
28:09
Speaker 1: or if he's the left fielder, and we still actually
28:13
Speaker 1: have to wonder whether or not Randy or Rose Arena
28:16
Speaker 1: is going to be traded since Ward has played mostly
28:19
Speaker 1: left field in his career. I don't know.
28:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still a lot of questions in that.
28:23
Speaker 3: Right when we were talking about when I said that
28:25
Speaker 3: that trade happened, and then what the thought was, Well,
28:28
Speaker 3: now what happens with the Rose arena? Yeah, I do
28:30
Speaker 3: wonder that. I still don't want us to get rid
28:32
Speaker 3: of him. I don't want to take anything away from
28:33
Speaker 3: this offense. I just want us to figure it out.
28:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they did buy. We just asked him in
28:38
Speaker 1: the previous segment to buy. Yeah, he's played only left
28:41
Speaker 1: field this year. He's played I think right field in
28:44
Speaker 1: the past, maybe a little center, but he's played only
28:47
Speaker 1: left field in DH this year. So I gotta believe
28:52
Speaker 1: Ashually they're keeping a Rose arena, and they're keeping and
28:55
Speaker 1: they're going to add Ward, and of course that's going
28:58
Speaker 1: to take away from a lot of playing time from
29:00
Speaker 1: Luke Rayley. He's probably gonna become only a pinch hitter.
29:03
Speaker 1: And then ref Snyder and Roeblaze. One of those two
29:07
Speaker 1: can't stay on the roster, that's for sure, and I
29:10
Speaker 1: think we'd all vote for ref Snyder to have his
29:12
Speaker 1: torch put out. Roeblaze has actually been contributing to this
29:16
Speaker 1: team as of late and then Donovan takes the Wilson
29:20
Speaker 1: spot on the roster, so that should well, you still
29:23
Speaker 1: have the fair Child spot on the roster right now. Yeah,
29:26
Speaker 1: so maybe Ward takes the fair Child spot on the
29:30
Speaker 1: roster for the time being. We shall see. But they
29:34
Speaker 1: have added not just a hitter, but one who has
29:38
Speaker 1: success against lefties and has turned into the best having
29:43
Speaker 1: the best eye in all of Major League Baseball with
29:45
Speaker 1: his eighty seven walks this year. So you feel good
29:48
Speaker 1: about it. You excited about this.
29:49
Speaker 3: I do feel good because I was really nervous that
29:51
Speaker 3: we were the first thing we were going to hear
29:53
Speaker 3: was that we were getting rid of somebody, and I
29:56
Speaker 3: was going to be really upset.
29:57
Speaker 1: So I love that.
29:59
Speaker 3: And then yeah, we get Brendan Donovan back and tomorrow,
30:02
Speaker 3: and so I think I'm pretty significant.
30:05
Speaker 1: You add Ward and Donovan to the lineup tomorrow. That
30:10
Speaker 1: changes things, That changes the complexion of the lineup. As
30:13
Speaker 1: I said, I hope that this doesn't mean that we
30:15
Speaker 1: take the one foot in the bow one foot out
30:17
Speaker 1: of the boat. And so you add Ward without having
30:20
Speaker 1: to give up much, but then you trade Randy for
30:24
Speaker 1: future assets. I don't rule it out.
30:30
Speaker 2: I don't because I don't rule anything out, but.
30:32
Speaker 1: Right but I'm with you, I hope not. I mean,
30:35
Speaker 1: right now, it feels like we just added Taylor Ward
30:40
Speaker 1: and Brendan Donovan to be in the lineup tomorrow, which
30:43
Speaker 1: should make a struggling offense a lot better. And yet
30:47
Speaker 1: it still comes down I think to Josh and Julio
30:51
Speaker 1: and Cal at least two of those three finding their
30:56
Speaker 1: offensive game here down the stretch. I still think it's
30:59
Speaker 1: going to come down to that to determine whether or
31:02
Speaker 1: not this team does end up winning the division. But
31:05
Speaker 1: this is a good sign for me. I mean, if
31:07
Speaker 1: you were hoping that they were going to sell, then
31:10
Speaker 1: maybe you're feel differently. But for all of us that
31:14
Speaker 1: wanted them to continue to go for it and not
31:17
Speaker 1: waste this roster and hope that there's a couple of
31:20
Speaker 1: good months up the sleeve of this team, then adding
31:24
Speaker 1: Taylor Ward seems to satisfy their biggest hole on the
31:28
Speaker 1: entire roster, and that is a right handed hitter that
31:31
Speaker 1: can hit left handed pitching and if nothing else can
31:34
Speaker 1: walk against left handed pitching.
31:35
Speaker 2: I'll take that to base all right.
31:39
Speaker 1: That's exciting. We've got to move and we still have
31:42
Speaker 1: five and hours and nineteen minutes to go before the
31:46
Speaker 1: trading deadline. Hey on, once you've taken one step forward,
31:49
Speaker 1: you might as well take another. We'll see if they
31:52
Speaker 1: do anything else between now and three o'clock. But we
31:54
Speaker 1: do have a trade. Taylor Ward is now a Seattle
31:57
Speaker 1: Mariner from the Baltimore Orioles and exchange for Alex Hopi
32:01
Speaker 1: and two minor leaguers and no big prospects within the
32:06
Speaker 1: organization exchanged in the deal. One last thing to close
32:10
Speaker 1: us out. Next Sports Radio ninety three point three k
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Speaker 1: A R F M. George thorough Good in the Destroyers
32:26
Speaker 1: coming to Talalo Persort Casino. Heck, they might already be there.
32:29
Speaker 1: It might be right now. I'm playing some blackjack for
32:31
Speaker 1: all I know. That's what destroyers do.
32:34
Speaker 2: They destroy the blackjack table.
32:36
Speaker 1: That's right. They're coming this Thursday, August sixth. Then we're
32:40
Speaker 1: going to be out there. And when I say we,
32:42
Speaker 1: I mean me and I am going to be at
32:45
Speaker 1: the bar alone, but don't make me drink alone. Come
32:48
Speaker 1: join me from five to seven at the Circle Bar
32:51
Speaker 1: right there in the middle of the casino floor at
32:52
Speaker 1: Talala Presort Casino. A free pre party pre funk going
32:57
Speaker 1: on before George thorough Good in the Destroyers hitting the
33:01
Speaker 1: talalap Amphitheater. I'm gonna be giving away prizes and all
33:05
Speaker 1: sorts of things. So just make a day of it.
33:07
Speaker 1: Just go and, you know, play a few games during
33:09
Speaker 1: the day. Come join me from five to seven, and
33:12
Speaker 1: then go watch George tear it up. He is bad
33:15
Speaker 1: to the bone. I think Ashley will tell you, so
33:18
Speaker 1: am I.
33:18
Speaker 2: So you got a lot how I describe you?
33:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot, a lot in common he and I.
33:25
Speaker 1: And so that's this Thursday. Do not miss it, all right.
33:29
Speaker 1: We do have a trade. The Mariners have traded and
33:32
Speaker 1: they have added Taylor Ward veteran thirty two year old
33:36
Speaker 1: outfielder from the Baltimore Orioles who's gone from a power
33:39
Speaker 1: hitter to an on base machine with the Baltimore Orioles.
33:44
Speaker 1: This year, he makes twelve million dollars, so it's a
33:48
Speaker 1: he's on his He's on a one year deal, so
33:50
Speaker 1: they'll just pay him to the end of the year.
33:52
Speaker 1: True rental here, and the Mariners did not give up
33:54
Speaker 1: all that much to get him to prospects outside their
33:58
Speaker 1: top thirty in the ranking, and also relief pitcher Alex
34:02
Speaker 1: Hoppey going to Baltimore in exchange for Taylor Ward. So
34:07
Speaker 1: Ward and Brendan Donovan added to this lineup starting tomorrow.
34:12
Speaker 1: That's a boost, that is a significant to this team.
34:16
Speaker 1: And they might not be done as the deadline is
34:19
Speaker 1: coming today at three o'clock. All right, So those are
34:22
Speaker 1: the details. Can't wait to get home and watch more
34:25
Speaker 1: trade deadline, you know for flying around here today. But Ashley,
34:31
Speaker 1: what do you have for her? One last thing?
34:32
Speaker 3: Well, I do want to say, just give a shout
34:35
Speaker 3: out because we, you know, as Maritors fans, we get
34:37
Speaker 3: frustrated with the players, you know, when they're not performing
34:40
Speaker 3: how we want them to perform, and we get frustrated
34:42
Speaker 3: with the team and the organization and think, man, this
34:45
Speaker 3: is your job, come on, be better. But yeah, one
34:48
Speaker 3: of the things we don't ever or don't really think
34:50
Speaker 3: about a lot is that the Maritors also give a
34:52
Speaker 3: lot of other things a lot of time on their
34:54
Speaker 3: days off. Like they have one day off today, right,
34:57
Speaker 3: They've been playing a lot of games.
34:58
Speaker 2: They've got one day off. They've got Tiger's coming into
35:00
Speaker 2: town and cal Rawly is hosting a.
35:02
Speaker 3: Baseball camp today on his one day off in Everett
35:07
Speaker 3: for you know, Kidston learn or to practice hitting and
35:10
Speaker 3: all sorts of positions, and I just think, like it's
35:13
Speaker 3: pretty cool to see that these guys are so involved
35:16
Speaker 3: in the community, and a lot of that stuff doesn't
35:17
Speaker 3: get talked about a lot.
35:18
Speaker 2: Like Julio the other.
35:19
Speaker 3: Day, give a fan of bat, you know, just like
35:23
Speaker 3: make the little things they do. And We've talked about
35:25
Speaker 3: this a little bit last year with Naylor and the
35:27
Speaker 3: shoes and the different things, but I don't think that
35:29
Speaker 3: stuff gets highlighted enough. Just all of the things that
35:31
Speaker 3: they do in addition to what their job is.
35:36
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they give their time quite a bit, There's
35:39
Speaker 1: no question about it. So all right, glad we glad
35:43
Speaker 1: we mentioned that here today. And I still think they're
35:46
Speaker 1: going to put this thing together. I really do. I
35:49
Speaker 1: think they're going to end up winning this division, and
35:52
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it without Luis Castillo, which is how
35:54
Speaker 1: I'll spend my one last thing. I've been pushing for
35:57
Speaker 1: him the last couple of offseasons to be traded trade
36:03
Speaker 1: from your depth of starting pitching. And I think that
36:05
Speaker 1: they if they would have followed my advice, they had
36:08
Speaker 1: gotten a lot more for him, you know, in the
36:11
Speaker 1: last couple of off seasons. But that said, it doesn't
36:15
Speaker 1: mean I didn't appreciate Luis Castile while he was here.
36:18
Speaker 1: I thought he was a terrific Mariner. Hell, he might
36:20
Speaker 1: even squeeze into that top fifty that they're going to
36:23
Speaker 1: announce coming up this weekend. But he was a terrific
36:26
Speaker 1: Mariner while he was here. That pitching staff, those guys
36:30
Speaker 1: that remain on that starting rotation adore that man. They
36:34
Speaker 1: are going to miss him, but they're ready. They don't
36:36
Speaker 1: need his leadership anymore. They've been around long enough, their
36:40
Speaker 1: leaders in their own right. And this was the right
36:44
Speaker 1: decision on Saturday. And Castillo is gonna land in a
36:48
Speaker 1: really good position with the Chicago White Sox a division
36:51
Speaker 1: leader right now. They got a lot of excitement going
36:54
Speaker 1: on on the South side of Chicago. Their fan base
36:57
Speaker 1: is going crazy for this team. And he gets to
37:00
Speaker 1: go and take on another group of young, inexperienced starting pitchers,
37:05
Speaker 1: a lot less experience than the ones he's leaving, and
37:09
Speaker 1: he's gonna get to lead them. So I think this
37:11
Speaker 1: is this a good move for Castillo. I think it's
37:13
Speaker 1: a good move for the Mariners, and he was a
37:16
Speaker 1: terrific mariner while he was here. All right, that'll do
37:18
Speaker 1: it for us. Thank you very much for joining us.
37:20
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