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Leftist rhetoric fuels more violence targeting Trump admin · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Welcome to Unleash the Political News Hour.
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  I'm your host, Nate Kane, and today we get into a number of stories in this first segment that I want to touch on.
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  Obviously, the probably biggest development or biggest story that has been all over the news for the last couple of days has been about the third uh attempted assassination on a President Trump.
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  Uh this time by a radical leftist who uh 31-year-old man, Cole Thomas Allen, who is from California.
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  Uh he was arrested after breaching security and firing shots that struck a secret service agent uh who was thankfully protected by body armor.
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  Uh he also attempted uh to target President Trump and senior administration officials.
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  You know, federal prosecutors have charged Allen with attempted assassination of the president along with firearms related felonies.
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  The White House has attributed the incident to a broader and pat a broader pattern of inflammatory rhetoric from political opponents and media figures.
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  Conservatives, of course, uh, you know, you know, we've emphasized uh the need for heightened presidential security protocols and uh you know the uh consequences really of unchecked political incitement uh and the historic nature of this being the third reported attempt on President Trump's life, I think really put this in perspective.
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  Look, folks, this guy was a teacher in California.
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  And so you got to wonder who else is he infected with this venom?
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  And you know, teachers obviously uh, you know, it's interesting.
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  There was a story that I saw of um, I think this was let me see if I can find it here, but uh it was a report that was done where they had looked at uh it was a poll that was done amongst people, you know, who who sought uh asking the question of whether political violence uh you know is acceptable.
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  And lo and behold, the the more highly um educated somebody was, uh the higher likelihood was that uh they found political violence acceptable.
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  And why do you think that is?
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  It's because you have Marxists embedded in our universities that are spreading this kind of vitriol.
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  And I think it's something uh that the FBI needs to be looking at.
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  Who are teaching, you know, our our uh, you know, students who are putting out this information, you know, this propaganda, and where is it being funded from?
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  I do believe a lot of this is being funded uh by our enemies abroad.
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  But this guy, of course, uh fell into that Trump derangement syndrome delusion.
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  Uh, according to his uh his manifesto, uh, you know, he basically saw all of the Republicans and people in the administration as you know, part of a cabal of pedophiles that, you know, and this is the kind of nonsense that has been you know being spread by those on the left.
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  And uh, you know, to be honest with you, conservatives need to be careful about this too, because we got some on the right that have been pushing conspiracies without evidence.
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  And uh, you know, and that's something else that that you know needs to be considered.
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  Look, nobody should be spreading anything, especially in the media or on late night shows uh without evidence.
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  You know, this this uh conjecture and um uh you know, these lies and all of that.
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  Uh, you know, the problem is is that it becomes very difficult difficult for people who are in uh positions of of uh government to even sue.
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  The the courts have notoriously not allowed uh lawsuits for defamation.
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  Uh maybe they should take that away because uh you should be able to be sued for defamation uh so that you can defend yourself because otherwise it leads to things like this.
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  I really do believe that.
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  Um, in other news, some other things that have been happening is the Department of Justice uh did drop criminal charges uh in their investigation into Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.
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  Um I I think that in the end that's probably a good thing because look, let's face it, uh there have been a misuse, I think, of uh some of these uh cases brought on by the DOJ.
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  And I think any time the DOJ is going to go after somebody and they don't have a solid case uh to begin with, uh, it's probably best not to bring the charges in the first place because it ultimately it weakens the Department of Justice.
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  The Department of Justice needs to be focused on going after criminals that are actually involved in criminal activity.
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  Um that's not to say that Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell is a good chairman of the uh the Federal Reserve.
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  I think he's been terrible.
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  I think that he is uh clearly uh he's allowed cost overruns on uh federal headquarters and renovations.
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  Uh he's made some really bad decisions and things like that, but does that warrant a uh uh you know a federal indictment or or or you know uh criminal investigations?
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  I don't think so.
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  And I think that's a waste of taxpayers' dollars, and I do think it's a waste.
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  More importantly, I think it sets a precedent of using uh the Department of Justice uh, you know, for lawfare, which I don't think should be used against any party uh or or anybody that is, you know, just for political reasons.
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  I don't think that the FBI should be saying we're not gonna take a case for political reasons in the same way that I don't think they should be making cases for political reasons.
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  Uh you know, and I I can speak to some level of authority here as somebody who was a uh an FBI whistleblower who exposed the FBI for for basically not going, you know, about taking strong cases that they had over political reasons, and namely related to Hillary Clinton.
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  Somebody who was a uh an FBI whistleblower who exposed the FBI for basically not going, you know, about taking strong cases that they had over political reasons, and namely related to Hillary Clinton.
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  Uh some other things that have been going on is that um, you know, we've got ongoing uh Republican primaries uh, you know, that are getting ready to kick hawk kick off here, and uh, you know, midterms are being prepared for folks.
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  Uh some other things that have been going on is that um, you know, we've got ongoing uh Republican primaries uh, you know, that are getting ready to kick off kick off here, and uh, you know, midterms are being prepared for folks.
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  Um, you know, what has happened in
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  Um, you know, what has happened in Virginia, I think is uh critically important.
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  Uh that the courts have clearly slapped down Virginia's attempt at redistricting uh and seen it as a complete power grab.
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  And I think uh, and I think that's important.
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  Uh I think uh honestly that's happening in California as well.
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  And uh, but I don't know that the courts out there are going to do anything about it.
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  But we are facing, I think, a time where the level of just unethical criminal borderline criminal uh activity, uh, you know, that has been being used in order to cheat in elections or to rig elections is so blatant and in your face, they don't even try to hide it anymore.
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  And maybe there's a reason for that.
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  This is where I do think that the Department of Justice needs to change some things.
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  If people are committing crimes in order to rig elections, the penalties for that should be severe.
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  If they find that there was cheating in elections, which I know that there's been evidence of the people involved need to go to prison for a very long time.
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  If we don't have clean elections, if we don't have fair elections, do we really have a country?
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  Do we really have elected representatives?
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  And I would argue that there's probably uh, you know, there are there are probably plenty of legal loopholes that exist that are also need to be looked at and reexamined.
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  Um, one of those, and and Congress is directly involved in this.
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  They they need to be the ones to change this.
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  But why is it that we allow dark money in our elections?
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  Do you realize that anybody from any country can essentially um do in kind favors for a campaign or for a candidate?
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  Uh all they have to do is basically set up their own LLC or their 501c4, and they can basically raise money and they can spend that money uh as much of it as they want on political advertising.
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  And that money can be, and the problem is, folks, is that if if it's a if it's money going directly to a campaign, it you have to show where it comes from.
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  But if it's going to a 501c4 or it's going to a um or it's going to a LLC under the current laws in the ways that are um our existing laws the way that they are, uh, you can basically have China could be donating millions of dollars to people's campaigns by running political ads uh, you know, for the campaign or for the person that they want to see get elected.
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  And nobody will know because it's all hidden under the U.S.
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  tax code.
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  It has nothing to do with elections in terms of uh, you know, the federal elections commissions.
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  They don't get to see where that money came from.
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  That's what they call dark money.
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  And it is a real problem, and it is impacting our elections.
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  Just like you've got um, you know, the the issues of illegal aliens having children, and then those children getting citizenship and then you know, having a right to vote.
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  Well, that might not be uh as big of an issue as some might think.
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  Uh Peter Sweisser in his new book just real you know, basically revealed how China has over a hundred thousand American citizens who basically their parents came here on travel visas, gave birth just to give birth, so that those children now have American passports and then go back to their country, and then they can train them up and send them in as spies loyal to the Chinese Communist Party.
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  There are a lot of things like that, folks, that need to be addressed.
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  And it's not just about one party versus another, it is about America as a whole defending its sovereignty as a nation against the will of people who have no right to be voting in our elections and who have no uh no loyalty to this nation.
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  Well, folks, that's all I have time for in this first segment.
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  But uh, when I come back, uh we're gonna be getting into some of the political issues that are specifically happening at the state level.
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  And there's really no better place to see some of that uh corruption and things that are happening uh than places like New York.
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  And so I've got a uh really great guest coming on, uh New York Assemblywoman Giglio is going to be joining me in the second segment.
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  I am pleased to be joined in this second segment by Assemblywoman Jody Giglio, who is serving her third term in the New York State Assembly.
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  She represents the Northfolk of Long Island, portions of the town of Brookhaven and the towns of Riverhead and South Hold.
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  And South Hold.
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  Assembly Win Giglio, thank you so much for joining us.
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  Assembly Win Giglio, thank you so much for joining us.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  So I wanted to have you on because uh you had some information on this assassination attempt uh, you know, that that happened uh down in New York.
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  So I I wanted to have you on because you had some information on this assassination attempt that happened down in New York.
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  What can you tell us that you're aware of?
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  What can you tell us that you're aware of?
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  Well, I can tell you that there is a lot of divisiveness not only in the country, but in the state of New York with policies and decisions and rhetoric that.
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  Well, I can tell you that there is a lot of divisiveness not only in the country, but in the state of New York with policies and decisions and rhetoric that is coming from the Democratic Party.
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  And it's really causing turmoil and my opinion, mental illness as well, where that brings violence and in the protests, and it's not only affecting the health and safety and welfare of our law enforcement officers that are just trying to uphold the law, but the third assassination attempt on the president of the United States, which is uh uh, you know, it just seems to keep happening.
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  And I think that the fire keeps getting stoked by the Democratic Party.
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  Yeah, and that's what that was going to be my next question to you is um are are you seeing more um, yeah.
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  I I remember the time when it seemed like we we had at least some civility uh between the parties.
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  And the left has gone so far off the rails.
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  Uh I haven't seen really the you know, the the Republicans really shift a whole lot.
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  It where the shift has occurred has been on the left.
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  Uh things that we would have never even thought possible, you know, as being ever even considered or acceptable, uh have become mainstreamed.
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  You know, things that used to be fringe have become mainstreamed for the left.
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  And there has been, of course, uh, you know, in within New York as well, uh, there's been a big uh shift, I think, to the the uh DSA, um, you know, the Democratic Socialists of America, and a lot of influence in um, you know, the Democrat politics by them.
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  Uh, what are you seeing on the ground there in New York uh in terms of that uh political shift?
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  Well, it's interesting because you know, we we do have Democratic socialists in the assembly chamber, and they are backed by the DSA, and they are all about, you know, the immigration and New York for all.
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  And that's the holdup in the budget right now.
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  New York state's budget is three weeks late, and that seems to be the biggest holdup right now is what are we going to do for the immigrants that are here and to protect them from ice?
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  And uh the governor with her the 287G, which is to not work with law enforcement when people are being detained and then they are being released.
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  And and that's a big hold up in the budget, apparently from the DSA.
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  So there is a lot of that going on in New York State, and especially with the winning of the election of Mayor Mamdani, who I used to serve with last year in the state assembly, and hearing the policies and the things that they are saying.
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  But you know, interestingly enough, Nate, is last week we had our uh assembly member Michael Novokov, who came from Russia, and he had his mother here who lives in Moscow, but she grew up in the Soviet Union.
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  And he told the DSA members that are on the floor in the assembly, you should talk to my mother about the Soviet Union and what socialism does to not only a country, but to people when they run out of other people's money.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, you know, Margaret uh Thatcher, I think, you know, was famous for uh that statement, you know, that the problem with socialism is eventually run out of other people, everybody else's money.
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  Absolutely.
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  And, you know, and and of course, uh it's it's been uh effectively chasing uh a lot of very wealthy people out of New York, and they're they're fleeing New York and going to places like Florida.
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  And uh, you know, where they don't have to deal with that.
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  Now, has one of the problems that we've seen that's been going on, and and this is uh it's unfortunate that the Republicans do not seem to stick together like the Democrats do.
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  The Democrats will do all sorts of evil and and you know, immoral tactics, if you will, uh, within the you know political scheme.
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  Uh, but the one thing that you can say for them is they stick together no matter what.
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  And because of that, it allows them to get away with things uh, you know, that they really shouldn't be getting away with.
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  And one of those tactics that we've seen has been uh the just the gerrymandering and redistricting on a scale like nothing we've ever seen.
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  Um you see that uh happened in Virginia, and of course, the the courts initially have slapped that down.
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  Um, but you got California trying it as well.
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  What has that been like in New York?
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  Has that happened there?
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  Uh, you know, what what has been your experience with you know the attempts of gerrymandering?
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  Absolutely.
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  The attempts are there, and the attempts are great.
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  And we have the census coming up now and being a member of the Ways and Means Committee.
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  There are discussions in the preliminary budget, the executive budget, and the one house bills in the assembly and the Senate to fund 40 million dollars for the census for people to go door to door and say, don't be afraid to say how many people are living in this house, because that's how we're gonna get more congressional seats, more senate or more congressional seats, I should say, because I don't think that the number of senators will increase.
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  But you know, the bait the census is based on population, not on citizenship.
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  And I think that's one of the biggest problems that we have with redistricting is the population and New York State is loading people in, and where people are leaving other countries where they don't or other states where they don't feel safe, they're coming to Sanctuary State New York for safety.
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  So it's they're getting counted in the numbers, and New York City is half the population of New York State.
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  And as more and more people migrate that are here illegally into New York City, they're looking to pick up more congressional seats and lose them in other parts of the state.
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  You know, that's a very good point.
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  And I'm glad that you bring it up.
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  Um I live in the state of West Virginia, and of course, we have seen uh we were the only state that had a decrease in our population.
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  And uh we do not have a major uh illegal immigration problem here.
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  Um so when you take those two things into consideration and you look at states like California and New York uh in particular, who do have large numbers of illegal aliens, and they are being apportioned uh, you know, additional seats, um, ultimately what that does is it disenfranchises the other states uh that don't have sanctuary states or sanctuary cities.
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  And uh, and so that's something that I've thought about.
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  Um, I've worked on election integrity issues.
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  Uh I know there's been some problems with election integrity as well up in New York.
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  Um, and and that's another, you know, to me though, the the two kind of go hand in hand.
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  Kind of go hand in hand.
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  And part of the problem is that, yes, uh, they're they're fighting this from the standpoint of uh it gives them additional electors, additional uh members of Congress or seats in Congress.
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  And part of the problem is is that yes, uh they're they're fighting this from the standpoint of uh it gives them additional electors, additional uh members of Congress or seats in Congress.
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  Um, but it also, and this is the other the problem that we have in a lot of blue states is that their motor voter laws um you know allow for illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses.
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  Um, but it also, and this is the other the problem that we have in a lot of blue states is that their motor voter laws um you know allow for illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses, and the fact that they are able to get those, uh they they are required to make the option available um, you know, for voting in elections uh for registering to vote when you go to get your driver's license.
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  And the fact that they are able to get those, uh they they are.
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  Now, even if many of those who you know maybe unintentionally don't realize that they're violating the law, uh, if they register to vote, uh, even if they don't go to vote, it doesn't matter because you also have in states like New York, uh, you know, mail-in ballots and things like that, and there have been plenty of evidence of counterfeit ballots uh being created with you know many of these, you know, individuals who are not, you know, they're straw voters essentially, they're not really legitimate voting, uh, but their names are being used on these mail-in ballots.
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  What has been your uh experience so far and what have you seen happening in New York?
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  There is definitely ballot harvesting going on.
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  And uh, you know, I have a bill that I propose that I've I keep putting it up every year saying that when somebody passes away that a copy of the death certificate should go to the board of elections to where they're registered to vote, but it's it's not a bill that's ever going to make it to the election committee or ever going to make it to the floor for a vote, but it's common sense, don't you think, Nate?
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  You know, that's so you just hit on something that's so critically important, right?
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  It's not even a matter of Democrats voting against it, because it'll never make it to the floor because they know that if the American people or if the citizens of New York saw uh their Democrat leaders vote against a common sense bill like that, they would know that the gig is up and they would know that it's all about cheating.
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  So the way that they keep these bills, and this is really, you know, I'm saying this is more for my audience.
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  Uh, and I I've worked with, you know, the uh the uh West Virginia state legislature on a number of issues.
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  And what I've seen is exactly even in a state like mine where it's largely Republican, uh, there will be folks who do not want this bill to come forward for a vote because they know that if it does get forward for a vote, it's gonna get voted in because it's a common sense makes sense bill.
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  So the way that they thwart these types of bills is by not releasing them out of committee.
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  And they get just, you know, basically they they die in committee.
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  And that that is what I've seen here.
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  I'm sure that's what happens there as well, and for that very reason.
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  Yeah, but you know, we're doing our part, and we have a great leader here, uh, the minority leader in the assembly that is putting it out there, you know, that the Democrats voted against a common sense bill.
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  And we're we're putting it out there every day.
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  I mean, we we're entitled to so many discharges to the floor, which basically mandates a discussion on it, but the majority says the procedure based on the rules does not that that nobody's voting on the actual content of the bill, they're voting on the procedure.
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  So it never gets to the floor for a vote, even when we discharge bills to the floor.
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  So it's it's uh the the New York state budget, you know, they keep spending, they keep deferring the the debt, the debt service, 77.2 percent of the debt service is interest.
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  Imagine that on your credit card bill.
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  It's uh unsustainable, but the spending doesn't stop, and they keep piling on use with the uh excuse that we have to make uh uh resources available for all of the proposed or anticipated federal cuts.
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  And it's increasing our budget significantly.
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  Our budget went from 175 billion to now 264 billion proposed in 10 years.
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  That's a big jump.
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  And it went from 254 billion last year to almost 10 billion more.
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  And there's you know, just some egregious things in there, but off the top of my head is 200 million dollars in the budget for legal counsel for illegal immigrants that are accused of committing a crime and are are facing deportation.
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  200 million dollars of New York State taxpayer dollars to defend them.
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  Wow, you know, and it the thing that's crazy about that is that they do this, but at the same time, you know, they won't support actually taking care of real issues that impact the citizens of New York, uh, like the you know, child care assistance program, uh, those are great programs.
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  The assembly and you've you know supported um it these are the kinds of things that there are plenty of things that I think you know there should be support across both sides of the aisle for, you know, that that most New Yorkers would would agree with and support, but they want to focus attention on, you know, some of these ridiculous things that have nothing to do with the citizens of New York.
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  Um what is the constitution of your state?
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  Uh has there been any look into that and whether or not there's violations of that happening through uh some of these laws that are being passed or attempting to be passed?
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  We say it on the on the floor every day that when you're elected and you're sworn into office, you're sworn in to uphold the constitution of New York State and the Constitution of the United States of America, and they blatantly go against those constitutional laws every single day, and we call them out during debate, and it gets adopted and the governor passes it and it becomes law.
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  So they really don't care if it's a violation of the constitution, they don't.
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  Now, you you represent an area that that's uh is got a lot of rural and uh agriculture, uh, and that oftentimes I think, especially in a state like New York, where a lot of the attention, you know, falls on uh New York City.
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  Um, but the fact is is that you got farmers that are are probably getting killed by high energy costs, uh, you know, for uh, you know, fuel and things like that.
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  You've got uh uh, you know, folks that that are dealing with high property taxes as well.
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  Um what has been the impact on you know on the agriculture community uh or industry, I should say, in in your district, and and how are you trying to combat that?
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  What is there any light at the end of the you know, tunnels or anything that's happening in a positive direction?
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  You know, with the influx of immigrants during the Biden administration and their inability to work or to work under a false tax identification number, that there's no way of the farmer verifying.
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  You know, with the influx of immigrants during the Biden administration and their inability to work or to work under a false tax identification number that there's no way of the farmer verifying.
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  I mean, the farmers are doing their best, but New York State Department of Labor is coming down on them if the, you know, if there are complaints.
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  I mean, the the farmers are doing their best, but New York State Department of Labor is coming down on them if the you know if there are complaints and they tried to unionize the farmers in the state of New York.
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  And they tried to unionize the farmers in the state of New York.
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  And it's uh it's really becoming problematic and the minimum.
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  And it's uh it's really becoming problematic and the minimum wage costs and the farm tax credits that and the uh reimbursement to farmers that should be coming quarterly based on the expenses that they have to bear.
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  It just seems like New York State keeps piling on uh the cannabis laws legalizing cannabis.
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  We're seeing a lot of our working farms turn into cannabis cultivation, and it's really uh becoming very problematic, especially on Long Island, where the cost of land is very, very high.
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  And when you have farmers that are struggling to pay the taxes, even though they have an ag assessment, they are still paying a very high amount in taxes and these burdensome laws that New York State keeps putting on them when it comes to the labor laws and it comes to the minimum wage, is really affecting the farmers and and the six-day work week with a day of rest, especially because you know the farming community in the agriculture community in any state is based on Mother Nature and what she gives you for that week.
• 29:32
  And and a lot of these farmers and a lot of the immigrants that come over on the H2A and H2B visas, they want to work 12 hours a day when it's a nice day and they need to work.
• 29:43
  And they want to also have, you know, with the strawberries are on the ground and it's raining, they need to get the strawberries out of the fields.
• 29:50
  And you know, it's it's really problematic.
• 29:55
  You know, uh situation where you know they they've got to work when they they can uh because uh Mother Nature isn't gonna take a break.
• 30:03
  Yeah, and they're leaving.
• 30:05
  They're leaving too.
• 30:06
  These farm hands are leaving and they're going to Pennsylvania, they're going to New Jersey, and they're working there where they can work the 12 hours a day and send the money back to their countries and to their families.
• 30:17
  And here they're restricted on the hours that they can work and the wages that they can get collect or the farmers can afford to pay.
• 30:26
  Yeah.
• 30:26
  I I want to circle back um as we're wrapping things up uh to the issue of political violence.
• 30:32
  Um, you know, it doesn't help in places like New York when they've really, you know, attack the police uh and uh, you know, have really uh come against them and created a situation where I mean, I don't know, uh, you know, but I I would never uh you know uh look for a job, you know, as a law enforcement officer in a state like New York's.
• 30:54
  Um, what what have you seen in terms of the the change um, you know, really since the the um the Black Lives Matter movement and you know that I think that was really where it's this the push, you know, kind of uh to defund the police really started.
• 31:10
  Um how has impacted New York as a whole and how has that impacted your community?
• 31:16
  You mentioned about cannabis and and uh you know, the a lot of these farms turning to growing that because at least they can, you know, they can make a living.
• 31:24
  But the problem with that is that it requires a lot more security and uh and things like that.
• 31:29
  So what what are you seeing as happening in the area of public safety?
• 31:33
  Yeah, well, the defund the police is real in the state of New York.
• 31:37
  We had 12 people that were arrested in the Capitol last week because of the New York for All Act with the anti-ICE protests that we have and that we walk through the halls of the Capitol when they're all protesting, and it's really uh it's really become very violent.
• 31:54
  Another big problem is the HALT Act, and that we have liberal district attorneys in the city that are letting criminals back out onto the street when they should be detained, so that they're not it's not leading up to a death or a family of victim, another victim, another family of victims that are uh victimized again when releasing these criminals back out into the street.
• 32:19
  And then you have the Halt Act, which is forcing correction officers to protest and to you know, get fired because they're saying that the laws that New York State created when it comes to solitary confinement, you can only keep somebody in solitary confinement for 21 days, and then you have to let them back out into general population, and they are attacking correction officers and they are going after other um incarcerated individuals, is what we have to call them now in New York State out of respect for the person that is in jail for committing a crime.
• 32:55
  You can't call them um inmates anymore.
• 32:58
  You have to call them incarcerated individuals.
• 33:01
  So it's a debate that we have often and law enforcement is so is that their pronouns it's so ridiculous.
• 33:10
  Oh my gosh.
• 33:11
  Wow, what a circus.
• 33:13
  Well, I really appreciate you coming on uh the show and sharing this information with us.
• 33:18
  I think it's important.
• 33:19
  Uh it just show goes to show that it's extremely important that people become aware of who they're voting for at the state level.
• 33:26
  We cannot just focus on the federal level positions, but we have to do our due diligence and come out and support good people like yourself uh that are running for office in these uh, you know, in these uh state elections because it has so much impact.
• 33:40
  In fact, I would say in some ways has more impact on our lives, you know, with our our day-to-day living.
• 33:47
  Well, thank you so much, uh, assemblywoman.
• 33:50
  And I want to thank you for coming on the show.
• 33:52
  Folks, uh, where can they, if they want to reach out to you and they want to, you know, find out more about what you're doing, uh, what's the best way for them to reach out?
• 33:59
  Yeah, so they can go on the New York State website and look up uh New York State Assembly and look up Jody Giglio and you'll see all my videos of my debates and everything that I'm doing up here.
• 34:08
  You can see all my bills that I'm working on, and you can also reach out to my district office at 6317 0204 if you'd like to have a conversation.
• 34:19
  Awesome.
• 34:20
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• 35:26
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• 35:28
  Simpson, the second founder and executive director of the wild horse fire brigade, a 501c3 nonprofit dedicated to conserving America's wild horses through a proven nature-based wildfire abatement plan.
• 35:28
  Simpson, the second founder.
• 35:43
  A lifelong rancher and scientist William manages one of the largest free roaming wild horse herds in the West 200 horses.
• 35:53
  He served as a cow fire advisor during the 2018 Kalamith fire, uh documenting wild horses' role in mitigating wildfires.
• 36:04
  His research has been featured in the Atlantic NPR, The Guardian NIH, and the award winning documentary Horse of Nature.
• 36:13
  William, thank you so much for joining us.
• 36:18
  My pleasure, thank you.
• 36:19
  So, you know, the this is a topic that most people would think, oh, you know, what does this have to do with politics?
• 36:25
  But there is politics involved, a lot of politics involved uh in the issue of wild horses, and uh in particularly with the Bureau of Land Management.
• 36:35
  And uh there's a reason I wanted to get into this because you know, we're always looking at how can we do things better as a country?
• 36:43
  How can our federal government and our state governments for that matter uh you know save the taxpayers' dollars?
• 36:48
  And you've got a very novel way of solving one of the biggest crises that you know it hits every year, it seems, uh, you know, with the West, especially, uh, and that is the issue of wildfires.
• 37:01
  Um let's start by just kind of telling us uh a little bit about how what you know what role that uh wild horses play uh in wildlife or wildfire prevention.
• 37:16
  Sure.
• 37:16
  So um, and again, thank you for having me on the show, Nate.
• 37:19
  Um, wild horses are interesting because they've been in North America for two million years, and there is a paper came out um about 15 years ago, Dr.
• 37:28
  William J.
• 37:29
  Ripple, it's called the collapse of large body herbivores.
• 37:32
  And he looked at specifically what happens when you lose your herbivore, in other words, all the critters that eat grass and brush on the landscape, what happens?
• 37:41
  What are the resulting effects of that?
• 37:43
  And he looked at it on multiple continents around the world, including Australia.
• 37:48
  And he what he found is that when there's a collapse of the herbivore, which are uh you know, deer elk, and in the case of Australia, kangaroos here, um, deer, elk, bison, wild horses are all critters that eat grass and brush.
• 38:02
  And when they go away, according to his science, which I think there was, I don't know, maybe 20 universities involved in that study.
• 38:11
  Um, catastrophic wildfire evolves.
• 38:13
  And and catastrophic fire is made catastrophic due to the heat that's generated by prodigious fuel loads.
• 38:21
  So if nothing's mowing the lawn, it gets really tall, and then when it burns, it burns abnormally hot.
• 38:28
  And so um I started looking at this from the with the eyes of a I used to be a logger when I was in uh college, going to college, you're always looking scrounging for ways to pay to get through school and you know, and then have a life on the side.
• 38:42
  And uh, so I I logged and and I noticed that when we had fires back in the 70s, they weren't like, you know, and we had hot summers back then too.
• 38:52
  Make no mistake, we had really hot summers in in those years, the 60s and 70s and even 80s.
• 38:58
  And uh, but we never saw fires like this.
• 39:01
  And so when I was up here in the wilderness, I moved up here starting um in 2024, um, or I'm sorry, 2014.
• 39:10
  Um, I started noticing that these horses were doing a really good job of mowing the lawn, basically keeping the grass and brush down, because we do in fact have a collapsed herbivory nate or uh in California, for instance, we're down roughly one and a half million deer.
• 39:26
  Uh there that were previously eating about two million tons of grass and brush every year, a little bit more.
• 39:32
  I I tend to round down um because I don't know how many mule deer are left because they do eat more and then elk and they eat a lot more.
• 39:40
  But in uh in Oregon, Washington, California, Idaho, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, all of the deer populations are down significantly.
• 39:51
  And that means there are a lot of ungrazed grass and brush.
• 39:54
  And so now we're seeing the result of that, which is consistent with the theory that was put forward in the studies by these other scientists.
• 40:03
  Now, for a long time, uh the BLM basically had this process of just killing the wild horses, and there was a lot of uproar about that.
• 40:13
  I remember.
• 40:15
  Um, but as you mentioned, that the you know, it turns out that these wild horses play an important role in managing uh these grasses.
• 40:24
  Now, I remember uh I think the last time I had you on, we had we were talking about um one of the differences between horses in particular in uh in how they graze um versus like other animals.
• 40:39
  Uh gives them gives them a particular advantage in being able to graze in areas where other animals might not be able to graze.
• 40:45
  Uh, can you tell us a little bit about that?
• 40:49
  Right.
• 40:50
  So, through the process of coevolution with the flora and fauna, in other words, the plants and animals on the landscape.
• 40:56
  When you have millions of years going by, um things kind of work out where everybody cooperates on the landscape.
• 41:03
  There's a cooperative survivability.
• 41:06
  Um, and and it's really interesting to watch it, but the the herbivores are made up of a couple of kinds of herbivores.
• 41:13
  So you have ruminants, deer, elk, cows, sheep, goats are all ruminants.
• 41:19
  And a ruminant is interesting because they chew a cud.
• 41:22
  They're very good digesters, and so they make the most out of what they eat.
• 41:27
  So cow, sheep, goat, deer, and elk, um, of course, cows and and uh uh sheep came from Africa.
• 41:34
  Um they've only been on this continent about 450 years.
• 41:37
  Um, so they haven't co-evolved with the local flora yet.
• 41:41
  Um, there's no coevolutionary benefits to either species, the plants, or the those particular animals.
• 41:47
  And so they digest really well.
• 41:49
  What that means is when they eat seeded plants and grasses, they tend to digest most of those seeds.
• 41:55
  So basically, when they you know, they'll sit down after they eat and they burp up the cut out of the first chamber and they rechew it.
• 42:00
  And they burp up the cut out of the first chamber and they rechew it.
• 42:04
  So that remastication of what they just swallowed causes a lot of mechanical damage to seeds.
• 42:04
  So that remastication of what they just swallowed causes a lot of mechanical damage to seeds.
• 42:11
  And so what comes out in their droppings doesn't usually grow.
• 42:11
  And so what comes out in their droppings doesn't usually grow.
• 42:14
  Very little survives those powerful digestive processes.
• 42:14
  Very little survives those powerful digestive processes.
• 42:18
  But a horse, on the other hand, they need 20% more food per pound of body weight.
• 42:18
  But a horse, on the other hand, they need 20% more food per pound of body weight.
• 42:24
  So an 800 pound cow versus an 800 pound horse, horses are not ruminids.
• 42:24
  So an 800-pound cow versus an 800-pound horse, horses are not ruminids.
• 42:29
  And so a horse needs 20% more forage because they're bad digesters.
• 42:35
  But that's by design because they've co-evolved with the plants and grasses here for two million years.
• 42:41
  Equus cabalus, the modern horse we all see, has been here two million years.
• 42:46
  They survived right up until the sir the Europeans arrived on the continent.
• 42:50
  We know that's a fact.
• 42:52
  That's a fact that the Bureau of Land Management hates, because if you're exterminating a native species, the American wild horse, that's not a good thing.
• 43:03
  And so, you know, people what they do is they misinform the American public and Congress, and they try to make it sound like they're an invasive species, which they're not, they're not an exotic species.
• 43:14
  They're in fact, even the reintroduced Spanish horses are not uh an invasive species, they're a reintroduced native species.
• 43:23
  And what I mean by that, and and I'm kind of going off on the side just a little bit here, Nate.
• 43:28
  Um, a million years ago when Beringia connected Alaska to um Eurasia, our our American horses, which all of them in the world originally evolved here 55 million years ago, but about a million years ago, uh some of the the equids, our horses started moving from Alaska across into Siberia, and that's how Eurasia got all of their equids.
• 43:49
  And so they over the next million years in Eurasia, they evolved into different kinds of horses there the zebras, the conic horses, the bowtai horses and so forth.
• 43:59
  They had a million years to evolve into those those niche ecosystems over there in Eurasia.
• 44:04
  In the meantime, Equuscobalis set stayed here, a lot of them survived the ice age.
• 44:10
  We know that.
• 44:11
  Why?
• 44:11
  Because the Ice Age ended, let's say you hear numbers 15,000, 10,000 years.
• 44:16
  Let's just say it's 12,000 years ago.
• 44:18
  But we're digging up fossils now that are dated at 5700 years old.
• 44:22
  Well, hold it.
• 44:24
  How do you get a fossil of a horse if they all went if they all were extinct 10,000 years ago?
• 44:30
  Well, it's impossible.
• 44:31
  That means they survived the ice age, which they did.
• 44:34
  And we know because when the French arrived in the early 1500s and eight, um, they penetrated deeper in the United States than anybody else because they were looking for for fruit the they wanted to trap fur.
• 44:46
  And so they they penetrated very deeply into the United States, they met the Sioux Lakota uh west of the Missouri River, east of the Rockies, they saw them riding horses and using horses to hunt buffalo that went into their journals, and they started using the terminology Indian pony.
• 45:02
  Now that's quite that's a big clue.
• 45:05
  And the reason the French explorers called them Indian ponies is because where they those people came from in France, a horse that was really small like that was a pony.
• 45:15
  See, Native American horses are little.
• 45:18
  Our horses up here, or we have a cultural heritage herd of 200 horses.
• 45:22
  Most of our horses are little.
• 45:24
  They're they're seven, eight hundred pounds because they are native, they have a lot of native blood.
• 45:28
  They're not like the Spanish horses.
• 45:30
  Now, the Spanish horses, when you think about it, if you got a conquistador with his armor and his gun, his saddle, his supplies, and those are big men back then, those guys were 180, 200 pound men.
• 45:43
  Um, you're talking 320, 350 pounds on the back of the horse.
• 45:47
  Well, yeah, they were breeding war horses.
• 45:50
  Cavalry, absolutely, and and they even had bigger horses for ag.
• 45:54
  They, you know, they had 6,000 years of breeding in Eurasia to create these these bred horses that they brought when they settled America.
• 46:02
  Well, the thing is, is we know from modern science, you can only put 20% of a horse's body weight on his back safely.
• 46:08
  So if you have an 800-pound horse, the math is 20%, you can put 160 pounds on that horse's back.
• 46:15
  Well, that's basically a scantily clothed Native American with a bow and arrow.
• 46:20
  Now, are you going to put a 350-pound conquistador on that horse?
• 46:24
  No, you that horse will go lame.
• 46:26
  They brought cavalry horses, which were big horses, they were bred, you know, knights and cavalry, they had a long time to breed these big powerful horses for war.
• 46:36
  And that's what they brought.
• 46:38
  But those were horses that originated here.
• 46:40
  They should say made in America on them because they all came across Beringia a million years ago.
• 46:45
  They they were made in America, they are they went over there and into your into Eurasia, and then this and then the settlers brought them back to North America.
• 46:54
  I mean, they're just a reintroduced species.
• 46:56
  Yes, they've been inbred a lot.
• 46:58
  Yes, they have a lot of differentials, but still they are, you know, Equus Cabalus, but they are different than the native horses that survived up until the European settlers.
• 47:08
  Well, still though, the the issue though, I think at hand here is that removing wild horses, um, essentially it is destroying, you know, kind of the ecology, um, you know, where you you're missing an important part of that ecology of keeping these grasses down, and that ultimately is what is leading to a lot of these wildfires uh that we're seeing across the country.
• 47:35
  And what bothers me, I think more more than anything about this is that when you look at the like kind of an analysis of the cost of maintaining uh, you know, wild horses in America, uh, versus the cost of you know of basically dealing with these fires and their aftermath.
• 47:56
  Uh, what are we looking at with that?
• 48:00
  Yeah, the numbers are shocking.
• 48:02
  Um, well, right now the BLM Bureau of Land Management runs around with helicopters and they chase these poor horses to you know exhaustion in some cases, or it's a lot of them just die while they're being chased babies, especially.
• 48:15
  Uh, mares will abort on the run if they're pregnant.
• 48:18
  It's it's horrific what we do.
• 48:20
  I mean, it really is criminal.
• 48:23
  And and then they put them in the off-range holding and they charge American taxpayers 150 million dollars a year for this ridiculous brutal, brutal program.
• 48:34
  And and of course, in the process of rounding them up and everything, they brand them and they sterilize them.
• 48:38
  So we've got roughly 70,000 American wild horses that have been rounded up, branded, sterilized, and put into off-range holding, and we feed them grass A and charge American taxpayers 150 million a year.
• 48:51
  It's ridiculous.
• 48:52
  Now, having said that, those same horses, if they were in the proper landscapes, you wouldn't have to round them up.
• 48:58
  In other words, if you simply relocate them, if a horse, if your horses are are in the wrong place, and if I'm speaking to the BLM right now, I would say if the horse is in the wrong place, the problem is simple.
• 49:00
  You simply relocate them.
• 49:01
  If a horse, if your horses are are in the wrong place, and if I'm speaking to the BLM right now, I would say if the horse is in the wrong place, the problem is simple.
• 49:10
  You move them to where they provide beneficial uh they become a beneficial asset.
• 49:10
  You move them to where they provide beneficial, they become a beneficial asset.
• 49:14
  In other words, we I've done a study.
• 49:14
  In other words, we I've done a study.
• 49:16
  We I know that because each horse will eat roughly five and a half tons of grass and brush a year, that if you put them into a remote wilderness that's on fire every year in the western United States, we have all these remote wilderness areas where there are no livestock, where there is no gas mineral oil extraction, where these fires erupt every year and they burn catastrophically hot and they're producing deadly toxins, novel toxins that were just discovered by the American Chemical Society, December of 25.
• 49:16
  We I know that because each horse will eat roughly five and a half tons of grass and brush a year, that if you put them into a remote wilderness that's on fire every year in the western United States, we have all these remote wilderness areas where there are no
• 49:44
  This isn't PM 2.5.
• 49:46
  We're talking about novel hydrocarbons.
• 49:49
  Um so anyway, you put these horses out there, they give you 72,000 worth of value over their life in fuel management.
• 49:57
  Now, why is that important?
• 49:59
  Well, if you put 70,000 horses out of the government holding, we save 150 million right out of the bag every year.
• 50:07
  That money could go somewhere else.
• 50:08
  That's just the savings that of the fact that they're not being in, you know, they're not in holding.
• 50:15
  It's not even including the savings in uh, you know, in fire damage that is done every year.
• 50:22
  That it prevents right.
• 50:23
  And there's two you're right, Nate.
• 50:24
  Right.
• 50:25
  And there's two kinds of fire damage.
• 50:27
  You've got property and casualty damage that the insurance companies are bearing.
• 50:30
  That's roughly 50 million a year.
• 50:33
  And then on top of that, though, we've discovered through the UCLA study, um, you in 2024 UCLA published a study, and people can Google this UCLA death toll, wildfire smoke.
• 50:45
  That's what you Google to find it.
• 50:47
  Should be front page news on the LA Times.
• 50:49
  Government has told the the media not to publish this because they don't have a solution, even though I've told them what it is.
• 50:56
  But they they're suppressing the truth.
• 50:58
  This is 11-year UCLA study.
• 51:01
  And UCLA showed that in the 11 years of the study in California alone, 55 million 55,000, I'm sorry, 55,000 Californians died prematurely from wildfire smoke.
• 51:15
  And that's because of the these novel toxins.
• 51:18
  Now that cost 435 billion dollars in damage.
• 51:22
  That has to has to do with loss of productivity and and the hospitalization and all the other stuff for these people dying prematurely.
• 51:30
  And these are men, women, and children, pilots, nurses, doctors, teachers, dead.
• 51:35
  And you can be a hundred miles away from the fire, and these toxins are deadly.
• 51:39
  If you breathe them and you're genetically susceptible, you die.
• 51:42
  I took the UCLA study and I plugged it into a supercomputer, and I say, okay, this was just California.
• 51:49
  We know the other states have the same issue.
• 51:52
  They just haven't done their studies yet.
• 51:54
  So I asked the computer, what would it be if we extrapolate the UCLA study across Washington, Oregon, Idaho, the Western states.
• 52:02
  And it spit out some numbers that just were shocking.
• 52:06
  It's it said that there'd be about 36,000 Americans die prematurely every year, men, women, and children dead prematurely every year, 36,000.
• 52:16
  And that would cost roughly 218 billion dollars a year in damages, economic and and health and health care and medical.
• 52:26
  And that for everybody who died, there would be five to ten more comorbidity cases who will die outside the framework, the time framework of a study.
• 52:36
  And and that those numbers get really big because you you know, like me, I was on a fire line up here during the Clamathon fire.
• 52:44
  I have lung damage.
• 52:46
  I don't know what that how that'll roll out for me in the future, but it did kill my wife.
• 52:50
  Killed her in eight months from the fire, she was dead from the toxins.
• 52:57
  Now, when you're talking about you know, these these numbers and everything, I assume that you've you've spoken to people within BLM and within you know, within the uh federal government, maybe members of Congress.
• 53:10
  What is the cost in you know what what is needed in order for a wild uh wild horse fire abatement program uh to be sustained?
• 53:20
  Like what would be the cost of that versus you know, essentially what they're doing right now.
• 53:25
  I mean, there'd be some costs in terms of moving them and and moving them around and that sort of thing, but what what are we looking at?
• 53:33
  Well, uh yeah, I'm gonna answer that question.
• 53:35
  Just I wanted to touch on the on the United States Forest Service.
• 53:38
  When I was a logger, they used to spend money helping us with sustainable timber harvest, but after the spotted owl shut down logging, then they just didn't know what to do with themselves.
• 53:48
  And so now they've migrated into a monetary, they're basically their monetizing wildfire.
• 53:54
  And the way I and the reason I can say that with a straight face is because when I look at their budget, okay, they spend 24% of their budget, 24.5% of their core budget is spent on firefighting.
• 54:07
  They spend 64.9% of their core budget on salaries, and they spend 1.6% of their core budget on sustainable forest management, and they and they spend uh 4.3% on fire prevention, 4.3% on fire prevention of their total core budget.
• 54:31
  And so obviously, when you look at this model, it's a model that it ensures ongoing monetization of fire.
• 54:38
  So these and these we're talking billions of dollars.
• 54:41
  We're talking billions of dollars.
• 54:43
  So what and to answer your question, okay.
• 54:47
  First of all, um they're already spending a lot of money rounding up these horses and putting them into the well into the holding.
• 54:57
  So they're spending all that money.
• 54:59
  Um that money can be uh used to instead of trucking them to the east coast into holding, we truck them into the remote wilderness and just release them as family bands.
• 55:08
  There you go.
• 55:09
  And so we it's a cost-negative program to do wild horse fire brigade, and that is the name of the formal name of the solution, it's called the natural wildfire abatement of forest protection plan.
• 55:20
  The long name, we call it wild horse fire brigade.
• 55:23
  Well, Bill, we're just about out of time.
• 55:25
  I want to make sure and give an opportunity uh for you to share where people can find out more information and support this cause.
• 55:31
  Uh, where how can people reach out to you?
• 55:34
  Uh, how can they find out more about what you guys are doing?
• 55:38
  Uh well, thank you.
• 55:39
  Um, if they just Google Wild Horse Fire Brigade, Wild Horse Fire Brigade forwards, they'll we come right up at the top of the Google search.
• 55:47
  Um, our website is wildhorsefirebrigade.org.
• 55:51
  Uh, and if they want to learn more about um the fires and the things that have we've done in the insurance industry actually did a documentary about us, they go to horse of nature, horseof nature.com.
• 56:00
  Of nature, horseof nature.com.
• 56:02
  So, like horse uh with an H, horseofnature.com.
• 56:02
  So, like horse uh with an H, horseofnature.com, and there's some uh documentaries there, award winning documentaries people can see.
• 56:07
  And there's some uh documentaries there, award-winning documentaries people can see.
• 56:11
  Well, thank you, Bill, for an enlightening final segment on practical nature-based solutions to wildfire mitigation and wild horse conservation.
• 56:11
  Well, thank you, Bill, for an enlightening final segment on practical nature based solutions to wildfire mitigation and wild horse conservation.
• 56:21
  Your work, it really does demonstrate how citizen led innovation and respect for natural systems can outperform heavy handed government.
• 56:21
  Your work, it really does demonstrate how citizen-led innovation and respect for natural systems can outperform heavy-handed government approaches.
• 56:31
  Folks, that concludes this week's edition of Unleash the Political News Hour.
• 56:35
  We examined New York policies with Assemblywoman Jody Giglio and closed with today's compelling discussion on wildfire policy, federal land management, and the wild horse conservation.
• 56:48
  Uh, join us next week.
• 56:50
  We, you know, I don't get too often an opportunity to uh get into different types of topics like this, but I'm glad to be able to do that occasionally.
• 56:59
  And uh, and so it's been a really great pleasure, uh, Bill, to talk with you about this.
• 57:05
  And uh, and it gives me hope that there are some alternatives uh to what we have been doing.
• 57:09
  We just need the right people in Congress to act.
• 57:12
  Uh, folks.
• 57:13
  Thank you.
• 57:14
  Yeah, we do.
• 57:15
  We have we have to save American lives.
• 57:17
  Absolutely.
• 57:17
  And folks, we will be back uh with you next week.
• 57:21
  So make sure and uh check us out again.
• 57:24
  And uh thank you so much for your listening and uh to America Out Loud.
• 57:28
  God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.