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Honoring The Music Of Richie Valens Buddy Holly And The Big Bopper With Connie Valens · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm great, Arrow. How are you? And what an
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Speaker 2: interesting name.
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting name in the way that I was
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Speaker 1: trying to be unique and different in the early days
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Speaker 1: of the 1980s of having a name that wasn't on
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Speaker 1: the radio because it seemed like everybody was Shadow Stevens.
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Speaker 1: Everybody was this guy, that guy. But I had never
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Speaker 1: seen an Arrow before. So I thought, that's who I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be. I'm going to be Arrow.
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Speaker 2: Well, good for you. And I love Westerns. So the
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Speaker 2: first thing I thought was an Arrow.
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Speaker 3: A-R-R.
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Speaker 2: You know, O W not that A R R O E.
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Speaker 2: So very, very creative. Good for you.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, you're, you're right on the
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Speaker 1: right path on that because I study native American history and,
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Speaker 1: and arrows are a major part of what I study
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Speaker 1: because I mean, it's, it's powerful as to what those
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Speaker 1: arrows were that were on the ground as they would
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Speaker 1: help out other nations across this country back in those
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Speaker 1: 17 and 1800s. That's how they survived was through the arrow.
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Speaker 2: That's right. That's right.
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Speaker 3: You know, um, Our family is, we have quite a bit.
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Speaker 3: My mother is Native American. Oh.
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Speaker 1: What nation is she from? A lot of people don't
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Speaker 1: know that. What nation is she from then?
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Speaker 3: Well, it was the Yakima, Arizona.
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Speaker 1: See, there's so much history that we don't know. And
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Speaker 1: we all assume because we will judge the outside cover
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Speaker 1: of the book. And I love it when I can
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Speaker 1: learn new things like this. And because it really does
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Speaker 1: just bring things to the soul. And it helps me
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Speaker 1: understand where we grow, even with music, because it has
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Speaker 1: to come from somewhere. And it's usually from our personal stories.
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Speaker 2: Yes. And that's a really good point.
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Speaker 3: Because most of Richie's music did come from personal stories.
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Speaker 2: Come on, let's go. This is my mother. Richie, come on,
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Speaker 2: let's go.
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Speaker 3: And then another personal favorite of mine is, come on,
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Speaker 3: that's my little Susie. Yes. And I have a quick,
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Speaker 3: fun story. So Susie was an actual person. My mother
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Speaker 3: had a friend. Her name was Angie. And Susie was
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Speaker 3: her daughter. So Susie was born with a club foot.
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Speaker 3: And we became best friends. And so when she walked,
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Speaker 3: and they never fixed it, they never repaired it, they
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Speaker 3: never did surgery.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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Speaker 3: But when Susie walked, she rocked to the left and
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Speaker 3: she rocked to the right. She rocks all day and
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Speaker 3: she rocks all night.
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Speaker 2: Oh, listen to you.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. So this is part of Richie's song. So
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Speaker 2: he took my best friend, Susie.
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Speaker 3: And made the recording. That's my little Susie. And he
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Speaker 3: made her a rock and roll dancer.
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Speaker 1: You know what's so cool about this, Connie, is that
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Speaker 1: because we're talking about this right now and with AI technology,
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Speaker 1: they're going to transcribe everything that you deny and grok
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Speaker 1: and everything. Because these are stories we don't know. And
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Speaker 1: because you're sharing them, my God, we're going to know now.
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Speaker 1: Because you're so willing. Oh, I'm totally with you right now.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. Want me to share some more?
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Speaker 1: I would love to hear more because I am a
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Speaker 1: book-taught person. Even though I played all the music on
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Speaker 1: AM and FM radio. And then, of course, right into
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Speaker 1: this new digital age. But we only had what Joel
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Speaker 1: Whitburn was willing to share with us.
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Speaker 3: We didn't have.
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Speaker 1: the authenticity of the stories like you're sharing now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, another one, it was in a Turkish town. So
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Speaker 3: Richie wakes up one morning and he goes, Mom, I
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Speaker 3: had a dream. And my mom goes, well, what were
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Speaker 3: you dreaming? He goes, you know, remember, I don't know
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Speaker 3: if you remember, but back in the day, they used
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Speaker 3: to do all those Sinbad movies with the flying carpets
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Speaker 3: and yes, all mystical stuff. And so Richie said, Mama,
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Speaker 3: I dreamed I was on this flying carpet and I
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Speaker 3: was just floating in the air. And he goes, I
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Speaker 3: was looking down and people were looking up, waving at me.
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Speaker 3: And from that dream, he wrote In a Turkish Town. Oh,
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Speaker 3: my God.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And it makes me emotional because that was his creative genius.
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Speaker 2: He took a dream. and recorded a song.
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Speaker 3: And, you know, that carpet, and he was looking at people.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes I wonder if that wasn't a premonition.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and you know, only God knows, you know, how
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Speaker 3: long we're gonna be here and what's ahead of us.
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Speaker 3: And so as a child, I didn't think too much
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Speaker 3: of this story, but as I grew older and started,
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of examining these things, You.
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Speaker 2: Know, it was just such a prophetic thought.
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Speaker 3: You know, maybe Richie, maybe that was just something that
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Speaker 3: in time would, you know, lead to him leaving this world.
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Speaker 1: And I always call those moments. We're here for a moment.
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Speaker 1: What are we going to do with this moment? And
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Speaker 1: are we grateful for the moment? And that's one of
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Speaker 1: the things that I always loved about Richie is that
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Speaker 1: everything I ever studied, He was so present. And in fact,
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Speaker 1: that's where the term the silent wolf came from in
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Speaker 1: everything that I do. It's like he watched what was
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Speaker 1: going on and he was able to turn it into music.
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Speaker 1: And I've been fascinated by that because how do you
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Speaker 1: do that? How do you turn life into a song?
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Speaker 1: And back in those days, it was only two minutes
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Speaker 1: or two minutes and 30 seconds long.
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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? And look at everything they said. Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they poured their hearts out. Now you can
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Speaker 2: listen to a song for five minutes and it's nothing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out what George Michael
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Speaker 1: is saying in all those songs. I go, George, I
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Speaker 1: got it, but I don't have it. Start this song
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Speaker 1: all over again, dude.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding.
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Speaker 1: Well, what is this got to be to your heart? Because,
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Speaker 1: I mean, once again, and one of my biggest battles
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Speaker 1: for music of the past is the fact that we
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Speaker 1: cannot ever look at it as being something from the
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Speaker 1: past because it's in the present. Generation Beta and Alpha
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Speaker 1: right now, they're calling us their music. Even though it
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Speaker 1: came from, it didn't even come from my generation. It
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Speaker 1: was before my generation, but I called it my music.
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Speaker 1: So I can't be judging Alpha and Beta here, but
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Speaker 1: it's always been our music. It's not the past. It
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Speaker 1: is the present. They created the present.
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Speaker 2: You know what it is? There was a certain.
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Speaker 3: innocence to this music. And that's been lost in these generations.
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Speaker 2: It's just lost. There isn't innocence anymore. I mean, not
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Speaker 2: even in five and six-year-olds.
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Speaker 3: They're all connected to their phones like it's a second
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Speaker 3: part of their body. But Richie and other artists, the
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Speaker 3: music back in the 50s, 60s, there was a pureness,
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Speaker 3: an innocence, a sincerity.
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Speaker 2: And it comes across.
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Speaker 3: And You know, they haven't experienced, these kids haven't.
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Speaker 2: Known this in their generation.
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Speaker 3: So when they see it, when they hear it, it
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Speaker 3: moves them, it touches them. And they fall in love
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Speaker 3: with it. And I can't even say all over again
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Speaker 3: because they've just met it for the first time.
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Speaker 2: But they fall in love with it. And when you
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Speaker 2: love something, what do you want to do? You want
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Speaker 2: to share it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: See, and that's the very thing that I want people
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Speaker 1: to understand, that as they discover Sal Rodriguez's version of
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Speaker 1: La Bamba, I don't want them to forget about the roots.
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Speaker 1: I want them to go on to the chat GPTs
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Speaker 1: or the other AI technology and find out where this
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Speaker 1: song really came from. They're going to do it. They
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Speaker 1: just don't have the inside sleeve of that album. Unless
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Speaker 1: they get this album, Three Stars Tribute, you're going to
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Speaker 1: be getting the words in front of you. Hold on
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Speaker 1: to it and read it over and over again.
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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, um, This, I mean, being at the start,
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Speaker 3: you know, we did the LP release at the Surf
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Speaker 3: Ballroom in Clear Lake, Iowa.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine that?
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Speaker 1: Wow. What a special place.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And seeing Pat Boone on that stage singing Donna. Are
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Speaker 3: you kidding me? No, really.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I have a cousin. His name is Ernie.
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Speaker 2: And I'm standing in the front of the stage.
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Speaker 3: And I rarely do that in all the years I've
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Speaker 3: come because I'm always busy.
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Speaker 2: But no, I was standing in the front of the stage.
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Speaker 2: And my cousin, Ernie, is up on that.
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Speaker 3: Stage singing, come on, let's go.
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Speaker 2: And I swear to you, I saw Richie up there.
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Speaker 2: I bet.
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Speaker 3: Because his voice is so close to Richie's. I just
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Speaker 3: closed my eyes.
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Speaker 2: And as he was singing it, I reached up and
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Speaker 2: he reached down and touched my head.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 2: I believe it. Yeah. And it was, I mean, it
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Speaker 2: was moving. It was amazing. It was back. It was
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Speaker 2: like a flashback to the fifties.
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Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Richie's sister,
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Speaker 1: Connie Valens coming up next. The brand new music project.
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Speaker 1: It's an album. Actually, it's two, three stars tribute. We
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Speaker 1: are back with Connie Valens. I'm one of those people
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Speaker 1: that has always believed that that's like when people say,
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Speaker 1: so your mother is gone. No, she's not. She's right here.
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Speaker 1: And just because you can't see her doesn't mean she's
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Speaker 1: not right here. And I totally, totally get into what
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Speaker 1: the story you just shared because he is. Richie has
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Speaker 1: always been here. And what I love about musicians is
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Speaker 1: that in their own special creative way, they have visited
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Speaker 1: every single one of us. Thank you for listening to
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Speaker 1: the song. Thank you for listening to the song. Because
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Speaker 1: they just have that ability to do that now. And
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Speaker 1: that's why when I heard this project, yes, I cried.
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Speaker 1: Because I didn't think I would ever hear or see
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Speaker 1: something like this ever again. It brings up so many memories.
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Speaker 1: And it also gives me a chance to go into
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Speaker 1: the future.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it does. And so have you listened to all
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Speaker 2: the songs? There are a few of them.
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Speaker 1: In fact, I wanted to break down these songs and
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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were going to be able
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Speaker 1: to do that. But yeah, when you're talking about Pat
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Speaker 1: Boone with Donna and we're talking about Sal Rodriguez and
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Speaker 1: we're talking about everything and even Sha Na Na. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do want to talk about it because these are
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Speaker 1: all artists that have a huge root in the rules
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Speaker 1: of music, especially Pat Boone. And the thing is, is
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Speaker 1: that every one of these people are so down to earth. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they're big rock stars, but they're one of us and
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Speaker 1: they know it.
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Speaker 2: Yes. You know, interesting story.
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Speaker 3: So Marshall Crenshaw was part of the of the concert
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Speaker 3: a few years back at the surf.
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Speaker 2: He was part of the lineup. And when I heard that,
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Speaker 2: I was so excited because, you know, he played Buddy
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Speaker 2: Holly in La Bamba. Yes.
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Speaker 3: So Austin Allsup's, I'm backstage and Austin Allsup's coming out
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Speaker 3: of the green room and I ask him, hey, is
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Speaker 3: Marshall Crenshaw back there?
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Speaker 2: Because I didn't want to bust in there with all
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Speaker 2: the guys.
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Speaker 3: And he goes, yeah, he is. I go, well, where
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Speaker 3: is he back there? And he goes, well, hold on,
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Speaker 3: let me go see. And so he comes back on
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Speaker 3: and he says, Connie, he's right behind the door. And
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Speaker 3: Austin Allsup, if you don't know the name, it's Tommy
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Speaker 3: Allsup's son.
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Speaker 2: And Tommy Allsup is a.
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Speaker 3: Gentleman who flipped the coin with my brother. No.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: So Austin comes up and says, yeah, he's behind the door.
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Speaker 3: So I go in and it's just everybody's in there.
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Speaker 3: And so I close the door behind me. And yes,
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Speaker 3: he's right in the corner.
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Speaker 2: And I go, Mr. I go, I look at him
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Speaker 2: and I go, you're Marshall. And he goes, yeah. And
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Speaker 2: I go, well, I'm Connie Valens. And you did a
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Speaker 2: little movie called La Bamba. You should have seen his face.
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Speaker 3: And I go, and that's when I said, I'm Connie Valens,
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Speaker 3: Richie's sister. And then he looked at me and reached
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Speaker 3: out and we gave each other a hug.
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Speaker 2: It was so.
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Speaker 3: Amazing, that little reunion in the same green room. where
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Speaker 3: Richie had stood at one point. I mean, it was amazing. Yes,
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Speaker 3: these moments are just... unforgettable and I know I'll.
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Speaker 2: Never forget it. And I don't think he will either.
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Speaker 2: You should have seen his face.
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Speaker 1: Did you take out a writing instrument and write things down?
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Speaker 1: Because I am that freak. I've got to write everything
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Speaker 1: down because I want to preserve the steps. Not for me.
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Speaker 1: I always call it the dear future reader because somebody
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Speaker 1: along the way is going to want to know this
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Speaker 1: story and to be able to hear it directly from
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Speaker 1: your heart or writing instrument.
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Speaker 3: You know, um, I tell people nowadays, uh, I only
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Speaker 3: store what I'm going to need.
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Speaker 2: I don't let a lot of gibberish.
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Speaker 3: In because at this stage in my life, I can't
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Speaker 3: afford it. I got to save my space for the
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Speaker 3: special moments. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, I get that. I totally get that. Because after
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Speaker 1: 32 years of daily writing, they're asking me, what are
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Speaker 1: you going to do with your writing? Who are you
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Speaker 1: going to give it to? And I keep telling them,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to bury it in the forest because the
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Speaker 1: words came from the forest. Why not give it back?
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Speaker 1: But I can totally relate with what you're saying. And
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Speaker 1: I needed to hear that today. And so I'm grateful
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Speaker 1: that you shared that with me.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're so welcome. I'm happy to.
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Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting about this project, Connie, Three
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Speaker 1: Stars Tribute, and I did laugh like a child, and
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Speaker 1: that is it says two albums, four sides. And I
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Speaker 1: had to think about that for a moment, and I'm going, yes,
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Speaker 1: it is four sides.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God. And I just want to take this
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Speaker 1: to a young adult right now and say, let me
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Speaker 1: show you something. I feel like that I'm the teacher
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Speaker 1: of music of the past, and it's like, let me
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Speaker 1: show you something. You've got to see this. You've got
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Speaker 1: to hear it. Tell me what you feel, what you feel,
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Speaker 1: what you feel.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing for this new generation to actually hold
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Speaker 3: an LP and, and now they can relate to the
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Speaker 3: excitement of the fifties and sixties.
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Speaker 2: And like you said, it's double-sided. Hello.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: See, and the one thing that I long for, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to cringe. I want
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Speaker 1: that Q burn sound, that little, when you put the
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Speaker 1: needle on it. Oh my God. I love that sound
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Speaker 1: for some reason.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know why? It's like you're waiting. It's
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Speaker 2: like the cherry on top.
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Speaker 1: You just planted a seed inside my imagination, that waiting.
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Speaker 1: That's when the arm of the turntable into the album
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Speaker 1: and had to pick itself up and start all over.
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Speaker 1: That wait was so priceless, but they don't have that today.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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Speaker 3: But yes, when you said that, I could actually not
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Speaker 3: only see it, but feel it.
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Speaker 2: Feel me putting on the.
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Speaker 3: Arm so carefully so as not to, you know, scratch
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Speaker 3: up the record.
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Speaker 2: You had to put it just right.
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Speaker 1: Do you know if there's going to be a small
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Speaker 1: tour or gathering to promote this album? Because this is
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Speaker 1: one of those that I would even love PBS to
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Speaker 1: grab a hold of and figure out a way to
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Speaker 1: get it out to even more people in the masses.
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Speaker 1: It's an experience that needs to be shared 100%. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's a great idea.
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Speaker 2: And I know Dana will pick up on that.
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Speaker 3: And that's what we did at the surf. We introduced
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Speaker 3: it on the surf stage. That's exactly what we did.
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Speaker 3: And I think that show needs to go on the road.
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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want it in a biopic just yet.
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Speaker 1: I really don't. But it's coming in one where everybody
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Speaker 1: came together because it's going to remind me of Rick
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Speaker 1: Nelson with Garden Party. Everybody showed up. And because, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's what I feel like with this album. Everybody showed
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Speaker 1: up that's been inspired and moved by this music.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they really did.
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Speaker 3: And I mean, I'm sitting here looking at the album,
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Speaker 3: the back and side.
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Speaker 2: One, side two, side three, side four. You know, this
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Speaker 2: is it's just such a goodness.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know the word to be able to
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Speaker 3: hold it. It's just unbelievable. It's like I'm dreaming.
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Speaker 2: Did this really happen?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you, Connie?
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Speaker 1: First of all, I want to know, are you doing music?
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Speaker 1: And the reason why I bring that up is because
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Speaker 1: you speak so perfectly in tune. What are you doing
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Speaker 1: with that voice to be in tune like that?
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Speaker 2: It's just a gift. You know, I just never really
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Speaker 2: even thought about it. It's just who I am.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday, I had the opportunity to do a presentation for
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Speaker 3: Iowa Music Day with the rock and roll band.
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Speaker 2: Um, hall of.
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Speaker 3: Fame music association in Spencer, Iowa at the clay County fair. And, um,
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Speaker 3: my talk was on Richie and me as his little
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Speaker 3: sister and his legacy and my journey. And I went
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Speaker 3: back to the beginning picking cotton in the cotton fields
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Speaker 3: of Bakersfield, California with my brother.
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Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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Speaker 3: And, um, It really brought back, as I wrote this presentation,
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Speaker 3: it was, you know, I got emotional a few times
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Speaker 3: because some of these things I hadn't thought about in
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Speaker 3: so long. So, again, you know, receiving some closure, but
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Speaker 3: closure has never come to me because Richie's a part.
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Speaker 2: Of me every day.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 2: Every day. I live with him every day.
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Speaker 3: Yep. And so, and I have my living room is,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to call it a sanctuary because it's not,
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Speaker 3: but it's where I have every memory and picture and
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Speaker 3: plaque and award that over the last, you know, for
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Speaker 3: me over the last 30, 40 years, I've been able
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Speaker 3: to get my hands on. Yeah. So when people walk
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Speaker 3: in there, it's like, there's a sense of, almost in essence.
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Speaker 3: And I even have a jukebox. It's a 65 Wurlitzer.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: You've got to come back to this show anytime in
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Speaker 1: the future, 20 minutes with you. We barely even scratched
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Speaker 1: the surface. So please come back to this show anytime.
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Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you what, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Arrow. Um, I I'll be happy to leave my number
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Speaker 3: with you or, you know, um, we can, um, get
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Speaker 3: this gentleman that's hosting us to put us in touch,
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Speaker 3: and I'd love to talk to you again.
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Speaker 1: Excellent. Well, you be brilliant today, and please enjoy your
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Speaker 1: journey with all of these radio people that have somehow,
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Speaker 1: someway been in touch and in constant contact with your
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Speaker 1: brother's music and beyond.
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Speaker 2: They truly have.
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Speaker 3: It's just been my pleasure and a joy I never
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Speaker 3: thought I would experience.
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Speaker 2: This has actually been so much fun. Excellent.
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Speaker 1: Be brilliant today, okay?
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I love that word, brilliant. i will be
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Speaker 2: brilliant and thanks again arrow