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Jaguars Happy Hour | Christian Kirk Traded, Free Agency Period Looms · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March sixth This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by dream Finders'
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  Speaker 1: Homes and now coming in like a lion and going
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  Speaker 1: out like a lion with less hair. J. P.
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  Speaker 2: Shackrick and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadrick,
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman, Busy hour ahead, and here's what's coming up
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  Speaker 2: on the show today. The Jaguars planning to release Christian Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that. Mitch Morse has announced his retirement.
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  Speaker 2: That was earlier today. We'll discuss what that means for
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars moving ahead, a free agency preview, and the
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  Speaker 2: aftermath of the NFL Scouting Combine. All that on dech today.
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by dream Finders Homes, official homebuilder
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  Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We are on ten Tinex's ninety
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  Speaker 2: two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Jeff
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  Speaker 2: lock have been joining us.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Hello, are you doing fantastic? How about you?
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  Speaker 2: Good? Doing really well?
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  Speaker 3: How did you uh? How did you do it? The
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  Speaker 3: forty yard dash of the combine?
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  Speaker 2: If you put a ham sandwich out there, I will
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  Speaker 2: run really fast.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about doing that? You know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of like a rich eyesend thing, or you do the forty.
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to really, you know, scratch.
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  Speaker 3: We should ran after we should we should have a
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  Speaker 3: contest me and you maybe to see who.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you you think you could beat me?
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  Speaker 3: I know, Oh, we we gotta have a little we
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  Speaker 3: gotta have a little wager on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, your daughter was just in here talking about
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  Speaker 2: how old you are. I know.
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  Speaker 3: So, so are we gonna do this or are we
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  Speaker 3: gonna have a little I'm down for it. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I'm not exactly the cheetah, neither are you speak for yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And people are gonna want to pay faster than I
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  Speaker 3: look see to see me and you race right, But
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  Speaker 3: it would be interesting. I would have to do this
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  Speaker 3: in a very controlled fashion, very controlled.
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  Speaker 2: This reminds me. This hearkens back to the early days,
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  Speaker 2: and we kind of first got started on the digital
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  Speaker 2: side here on Jaguars dot com. I challenged Baselli to
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  Speaker 2: the five k through the stadium.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, how'd that go?
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  Speaker 2: It didn't go well? Yeah? I stayed with him. This
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  Speaker 2: is before his bad hip again.
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  Speaker 3: But it was a bad hip, but it was it
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  Speaker 3: had gotten really bad.
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  Speaker 2: It hadn't like broken in half. Yeah at that point.
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  Speaker 2: I stayed with him for like a half mile, and
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  Speaker 2: then I couldn't keep out. He just kept going, that's
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  Speaker 2: not very that's not very good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, Okay, so you're so what you're saying
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  Speaker 3: is is that you're meant for shorter distance.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a sprinter, That's what I'm saying. Come on, man, I.
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  Speaker 3: Look like I remember the combine. Gosh, it was a
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  Speaker 3: long time ago, obviously, in nineteen eighty nine, but and
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  Speaker 3: it's obviously it's changed tremendously to where it's become a
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  Speaker 3: media event, and it wasn't so much of one back then.
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  Speaker 3: But the uh, the amount of fanfare that it gets
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  Speaker 3: is really amazing considering that all it really is is
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  Speaker 3: a medical check for the most part. But the media
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  Speaker 3: side of it has made it an attraction, which is
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  Speaker 3: good for the NFL. It's good for the game. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't get glued to it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, but some people think it's great.
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  Speaker 2: We went to the combine and I could have cared
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  Speaker 2: less about the workouts on the field. We left before
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  Speaker 2: most of the position Grews even got on the field.
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  Speaker 2: We were out of town, so that's changed a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to know, honestly, what percentage of general
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  Speaker 3: managers in the National Football League actually watch it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whether they're they're in person, or they're in their office
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  Speaker 3: watching the stream on the NFL network or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, I would.
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  Speaker 3: Think that it would be an incredible waste of time
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  Speaker 3: for a GM to watch the combine. Well, give me
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  Speaker 3: the numbers, give me the medical facts, and okay, let
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  Speaker 3: me spend my time watching film. If general managers are
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  Speaker 3: spending more time watching the combine performance, then they are
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  Speaker 3: watching film.
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  Speaker 2: That team's got a problem. The medical part. Yes. The interviews, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's the important part of the beast too.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I'm not a big I don't know if I'm
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  Speaker 3: a big proponent of that even Well, and the reason
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  Speaker 3: why is it Look, I mean, look, and I've watched
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the interviews that have happened. It's just Look,
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  Speaker 3: you can prepare yourself. You can prepare a client, if
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  Speaker 3: you're an agent, you can prepare anybody to sound good
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  Speaker 3: for ten to fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The proper way is you want to interview people and
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  Speaker 3: you want to be able to talk ball and all that.
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  Speaker 3: But I like the idea of when they come into
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  Speaker 3: your facility and it's not in a control environment where
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  Speaker 3: there's a clock about to go off and say okay,
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  Speaker 3: times up, because I think anybody can put on an
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  Speaker 3: act for a period of time. The most important thing
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  Speaker 3: is not so much of the interview. To me, it's
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  Speaker 3: about vetting the player. It's talking to people that have
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  Speaker 3: been around him, wherever he's been and where he's currently
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  Speaker 3: at right now, people that aren't going to just give
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  Speaker 3: you political mumbo jumbo to impress upon you that the
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  Speaker 3: players a great guy. I want to find out for real,
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  Speaker 3: how did he react in certain situations going back to
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  Speaker 3: high school to college and you know, what kind of
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  Speaker 3: a teammate is he? What does he do when nobody's
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  Speaker 3: looking that kind of the thing. And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: the proper vetting. And I don't know if we actually
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  Speaker 3: as an organization have done the proper amount of that.
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  Speaker 3: In our history. We've drafted some players that have had
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  Speaker 3: some questionable backgrounds, and I think if you properly vetted
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  Speaker 3: guys that some of that would not have happened. And
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  Speaker 3: the other part of that I think is, Look, you're
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  Speaker 3: getting ready to invest millions million dollars, if you're getting
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  Speaker 3: ready to get in a relationship with somebody from a
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  Speaker 3: business standpoint, you're committing five, ten, twenty million dollars to
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  Speaker 3: somebody in a business relationship. Why would you not want
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  Speaker 3: to have all the facts and information that you possibly
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  Speaker 3: could on that player?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: I mean to me, you got you got to spend.
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  Speaker 3: You got to have the resources in house or to
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  Speaker 3: commit the resources to have somebody out of house. Actually
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  Speaker 3: do the vetting to make sure that you're making good decisions, because,
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  Speaker 3: as the new general manager said, intangibly rich players are
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  Speaker 3: the kind you want, and you don't find out about
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  Speaker 3: those intangibles unless you're properly vetting the player.
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  Speaker 2: How that works. We'll get back to the combine here
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  Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. Those dudes kind of popped
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  Speaker 2: yesterday on social media that the Jaguars were expected to
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  Speaker 2: part ways with Christian Kirk. That has not officially happened yet.
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  Speaker 2: Who reported that, By the way, everybody and the whole
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  Speaker 2: was there an initial sorce or say sources say the
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  Speaker 2: Jags are gonna get rid of Kirk? Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 2: say about ten million dollars on the salary cap next year.
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  Speaker 2: A guy who missed a lot of football eleven hundred
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  Speaker 2: yards in twenty twenty two, only twenty games played over
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  Speaker 2: the last two seasons combined, which.
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  Speaker 3: Is obviously one of the main reasons why his numbers
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  Speaker 3: weren't what they were going back to twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 3: Christian Kirk's still a good football player, a very good
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  Speaker 3: football player. Now, look, I I would hope that the
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  Speaker 3: door and I don't think you should close the door
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  Speaker 3: on anybody for the most part, unless it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: a bad character guy, then you can slam the door.
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  Speaker 3: But when you have a good football player where maybe
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  Speaker 3: the pay is not commasure it with the play. Then
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a there's a point where maybe you
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  Speaker 3: can get there, and sometimes it takes releasing the player,
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  Speaker 3: uh in order to get to that. And so I
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  Speaker 3: would like to think that door, the door is not closed.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe there's a possibility of him coming back on maybe
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  Speaker 3: a better number. I know that Liam con had said,
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  Speaker 3: the head coach had said what a few weeks ago
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  Speaker 3: about how you'd like to have Trevor Lawrence kind of
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  Speaker 3: involved on some of the decisions when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: you know, this football team. I think that's one of
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  Speaker 3: Trevor's best friends, right and one of his favorite targets.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, until something actually happened, let's kind of
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  Speaker 3: wait and see what actually happens.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of money on the sideline though if
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  Speaker 2: he's not playing. He hasn't finished the last two seasons,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt, no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, and that's look, availability always supersedes ability, and
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  Speaker 3: that everybody knows that. And availability is one of the
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  Speaker 3: key components to be able to reach the end of
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  Speaker 3: a contract, and not many guys do. So I hope
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  Speaker 3: there's a way to keep him. I think he's a
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  Speaker 3: good football player. If there's a way to get to
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  Speaker 3: a number that that is better reflects the production over
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  Speaker 3: the last couple of years than I think you got
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  Speaker 3: to consider maybe bringing him back.
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  Speaker 2: It's Parker Washington ready to step in.
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  Speaker 3: I think Parker Washington is super ready for the next step.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if I had a choice between Christian Kirk
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  Speaker 3: and Parker Washington, I mean that's you know, if you
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  Speaker 3: said you can only keep one, right, you kind of
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  Speaker 3: lean towards Parker just because he's younger. But he's but
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  Speaker 3: he's different, you know, see Parker. A lot of people
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  Speaker 3: look at Parker because of his statue right, shorter, bulky.
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  Speaker 3: They think that he is nothing but maybe a slot receiver.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think really anything would be farther from
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  Speaker 3: the truth. I think Parker Washington has the ability to
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  Speaker 3: move outside and also have great success outside. I think
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  Speaker 3: Christian Kirk is more of a true slot guy. Parker,
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  Speaker 3: I think is more of a of an outside guy.
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  Speaker 3: But he's also incredibly strong. I think the yards after
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  Speaker 3: the catch I think a little bit better than Christian Kirks,
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  Speaker 3: but both good football players and Parker being younger, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you gotta take that leap of faith and commit to
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  Speaker 3: the younger guys.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes That's what I mean. Christian is not designed to
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  Speaker 2: be running those routes down the field a lot of
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  Speaker 2: times where he got hurt. Right If he's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be a slot guy, he's forced outside sometimes a little
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  Speaker 2: bit out of place.
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  Speaker 3: I think the biggest concern right now when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to the offense and the wide receiver position is Gabe
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  Speaker 3: Davis's number. The production last year did not match where
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  Speaker 3: you would like to have him be at for the
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  Speaker 3: number that he's at, and you're committed to him. You know,
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  Speaker 3: when I say you're committed to him, you know he
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  Speaker 3: he's going to be on this football team. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure of that from a cap standpoint. And you've got
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  Speaker 3: to get the productivity to match where his number is
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  Speaker 3: at right now. And I hope that it can get there.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not like you can just move on from
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  Speaker 3: from Gabe Davis. But Nope, did not have a great
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  Speaker 3: year last year. And you know, and look, the reality
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  Speaker 3: is that Trevor was hurt too, and you know, you
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  Speaker 3: had a backup quarterback in and there are a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things that you know, new system. I mean, all
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  Speaker 3: of those things are I think are factoring in. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, again, production needs to equal the pay level,
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  Speaker 3: and it did not last year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was still cost excuse me for Gabe Davis.
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  Speaker 2: He signed a three year, thirty nine million dollar contract,
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  Speaker 2: cap hits six point four. The dead caps twenty point
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  Speaker 2: three on him this year.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, he's not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now next.
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  Speaker 3: Year, well, I don't want to say that. I want
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  Speaker 3: you never say never. I mean, you know, I'm think
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  Speaker 3: there's always a way that he could end up not
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  Speaker 3: being here, But I don't think that's a that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: I think he will be here, you know. And I look,
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  Speaker 3: I was excited about the acquisition of him last year
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  Speaker 3: just because he he's crafty. He does a great job
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  Speaker 3: as far as making the field stretch. Not that he's
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  Speaker 3: a burner, but he's a crafty, deep deep ball wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I think there's some things that
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  Speaker 3: he can do to you know, to become a better teammate,
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  Speaker 3: to be more productive and to be more of a
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  Speaker 3: productive player for this football team. And if he can
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  Speaker 3: and he can put up some of those numbers that
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  Speaker 3: he's put up in the past in Buffalo, then then
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  Speaker 3: he's worth the pay.
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  Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment. We'll get to the
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  Speaker 2: news of today. Mitch Morse announcing his retirement.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good conversation because there's some people that
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  Speaker 3: are saying some things about that that are just way
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  Speaker 3: off though. I can't wait to hear this and somebody,
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  Speaker 3: you know who I'm talking about. I sure guy got
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  Speaker 3: a big mouth.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't narrow it down at all.
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  Speaker 3: Initial Oh yeah, back in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jackular's happy hour.
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  Speaker 4: Three frogs approach, and it certainly sounds like that's how
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  Speaker 4: it is set up. And having Tony BASSELLI back involved,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's just a home run with Jacksonville franchise,
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  Speaker 4: and this is something.
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  Speaker 2: Really wants to do. Oh yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And when you see that and you hear that the
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  Speaker 4: passion that he's going to bring to this job. This
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  Speaker 4: man loves the Jaguars, he loves the organization. He wants
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  Speaker 4: to be part of a group that gets him back
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  Speaker 4: to where things were when he was rolling out there.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I really like where they're going. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know James Gladstone as well as I hope to down
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  Speaker 4: down the road. And that's as kind of Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 4: I was able to meet last year as the offense
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  Speaker 4: corner of the Buccaneers, and I could not have been
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  Speaker 4: more impressed. I came away from that one going whoa
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  Speaker 4: first time might ever meet him and spent time with him,
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  Speaker 4: and I was juice coming out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's Charles Davis, a man who wears many hats, NFL
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  Speaker 2: on CBS, serious, XM Radio, NFL media. He had coverage
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  Speaker 2: of the Combine and Indie and all of our conversations
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube all in a row. You can watch them
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  Speaker 2: all at once.
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  Speaker 3: The hat that he was currently wearing was a Tiger
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  Speaker 3: Woods hat.
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  Speaker 2: I that's true. Yeah, she's got some golf experience too.
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  Speaker 3: Charles Dave's great guy, one of the all time great
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  Speaker 3: guys and the NFL media that I've had the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to meet over the many years that I've been involved,
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  Speaker 3: not only as a player but as a broadcaster, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of his work. I think he
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  Speaker 3: does a great job. Great job, great guy, great job.
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  Speaker 2: guy too. Man. I appreciate yourself. Yeah, appreciate that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't care what they say at the other room about
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  Speaker 2: you at all. That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Some guy in the other room named Joe, he always
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  Speaker 3: talks bad about me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're on t today, Sol Jaguars Dot guy with
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube. Glad you're with us. Jaguars Happy Hour today, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars centered. After ten years in the NFL, Mitch Morse
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  Speaker 2: today announced his retirement from the National Football League. Brandon Sheriff,
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  Speaker 2: the right guard, is a pending free agent as well,
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  Speaker 2: so the salty vets in the middle of the offensive
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  Speaker 2: line most likely are no longer here anymore. Well, and look,
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  Speaker 2: congratulations to Mitch Morse. He's He's had a really, really
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  Speaker 2: a great career, been a good football players, played a
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  Speaker 2: lot of football. And I was, I.
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  Speaker 3: Guess somebody said something to it. I went and looked
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  Speaker 3: at it. Sure enough, it was Pete Prisco of the
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  Speaker 3: K the PP initials that I was referring to before
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  Speaker 3: we took a commercial break. And in response, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: d Rock posted the information that that Mitch Morris was
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  Speaker 3: announcing his retirement and then Prisco made a reply to
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  Speaker 3: that and says another bulky gem of a signing and
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  Speaker 3: kind of being sarcastic.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's being sarcastic or not. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it kind of gives you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean when he uses the term gem and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of yeah, it's a little look. And here's
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  Speaker 3: the reality. Mitch Morris was a good signing. Okay, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things you might be able to criticize
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  Speaker 3: Trent balky on, but that's not one of them. He
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  Speaker 3: upgraded this and now you can criticize, you know, some
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  Speaker 3: other things about some roster moves, but Mitch Morris is
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  Speaker 3: a good football player and he upgraded the center position.
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  Speaker 3: He upgraded the offensive line this past year. Look, you're
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  Speaker 3: not going to be able to go out there and
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  Speaker 3: just upgrade it to a Pro Bowl caliber player whenever
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  Speaker 3: you want to, especially at the center position. Definitely not
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  Speaker 3: a the tackle position. But he was a good player
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  Speaker 3: for this team.
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  Speaker 2: What was he best at and where were some areas
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  Speaker 2: that he lacked?
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  Speaker 3: He didn't make any mistakes, Okay, he did a great
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: job of leadership along the offensive line. I think he
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: made the guys around him better, and most importantly, he
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: upgraded the performance of the position from Luke Fortner and
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: and that was really what was needed at that position.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: And so and I thought Mitch the one thing he
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: did a really good job good in pass protection, never
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: got just flat out beat quickly. At times he would
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: get overpowered because it's just you know, he didn't have
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: that strength of being in a phone booth kind of battle.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: He could probably say the same thing about Brandon Sheriff
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: a little bit, that he didn't have the strength bit
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: to win the battle in the phone booth. But two
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: good football players. And I don't want people to talk badly,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: you know, look at you. They're entitled to if they
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: want to. But I thought that Mitch Morrison Brandon share
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: for good football players for this football team. Would you
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: like to upgrade it and get you know, the big, strong,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: you know, move them all for the line of scrimmage player, Sure,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: but also appreciate those players for the job that they've
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: done here. If you're talking about issues with the offensive line,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that those two were the primary problem.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: This is where you want to get away from spending
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: big in free agency in a position like that. Right, Well,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: draft that and develop it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look you've you've you've tried to draft
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: and develop that. I mean fact of the matter. Look,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you drafted Fortner that hasn't worked out yet. Last year,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: you lost what I thought was going to be the
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: future air parent at right guard to to a horrific injury.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: And Cooper Hodges. I'm an I'm a huge fan of
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Cooper Hodges, and I hope that his rehab goes well.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: From what I understand, it's a long road back, you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: so sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. And this
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: team hasn't done a great enough job of drafting offensive
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: lineman and developing them. You know, they spent some high
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: picks on on the tackles, but they haven't really drafted
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: and developed many offensive linemen over the years, and I
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: think that's one of the things that held this team back.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Ben Barks is now playing for the San Francisco forty.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's you know, he's a kind of a
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: bubble player. You know, when he was here, his feet
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: weren't great. Strong guy, but feet weren't great. And he's
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: kind of been a you know, part time starter for
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. I don't think he's a front
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: line guy. And maybe he's developed into that, but when
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: he was here, he was not a front line guy, right,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: but a strong guy, but a strong guy.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But you still maybe get he's gone now it doesn't matter, Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: but you got me.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Look, I mean, look, the reality is is that you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Sheriff's going to be a free agent. Mitch Morris is retired,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: which I didn't think he would retire. I thought he
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: would continue playing. He still can play in the NFL.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, if you had to rank
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: him as far as amongst centers in the National Football League,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you'd probably put.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Him in that third quartal. We've got some breaking news.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Tom Pelasero of NFL Network tweeting out on x just
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: moments ago that the Jaguars are sending Christian Kirk to
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the Texans. A twenty twenty six seventh round pick coming
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to Jacksonville for Christian Kirk. The Texans take on the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: existing contract sixteen and a half million this year, the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: final year of his deal. And that is a real
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: tweet from a really count So just moments ago, literally
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: five minutes ago, that was announced on Twitter. Tom Pelasio
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: with a report NFL Network, Christian Kirk traded to the
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Houston Texans in the division trade fairly rare.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very rare. And look, the Texans tank Dell's
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: got prett significant knee injury that he's coming back from.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: And then the guy that they got from the Buffalo Bills,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Diggs Digs, stefan On Dicks. Stefon Diggs is gone and
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: he had an injury last year as well. So the
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Texans are looking for players and that's that's a good
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: landing spot for Christian Kirk. I mean, it's a division,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: so you kind of stick with some familiar faces that
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: playing weekend and week out. And then on top of that,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Nico Collins might be one of the best top five
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: wide receivers in football in my opinion. So Christian Kirk's
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: going to a place that there's a lot of attention
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: that's going to be going to the other side.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Of the field. Right. And now the Jaguars get out
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of that contract and ten millions in cap savings ballpark
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: with Kirk. Yes, yes, but I mean sixteen and a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: half million contracts going all the way to the Texans, right,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So right there you go.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: So I mean I wish them well, it was Christian
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Kirk's super solid guy. Oh, fantastic to deal with. Super
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: solid guy. I mean just you know, one of the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: top guys that's ever come through here as far as
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: high character guy, good football player, and uh was what
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: this team needed at at the time that he signed.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, so there you have it. That just happened moments ago,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars trading Christian Kirk to the Houston Texans. Are you,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: in general a fan of in division trades? Yeah?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, I do.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not a you know, I don't. I don't.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Look, I mean, here's the reality, because everybody's worried. Okay,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: do you trade in the conference? Do you trade in
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the division because like, oh, you don't want to make
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: your opponents better. Look, if you're trading the guy, you
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: feel like you can upgrade from that guy, right, I mean,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that's the whole purpose of doing that, is that you
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: can upgrade your team by trading that player. Maybe not
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: upgrade that position, but maybe the Jaguars now feel like, hey, look,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: with that cap savings, we can now allocate those dollars
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: to get better in some other position, and maybe we
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: feel really good about the young guys that we have
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: with Parker Washington and Brian Thomas Junior and some of
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the other guys, and also the possibility as a future
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: draft pick, and maybe we need to allocate those dollars
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: of paying offensive lineman, I mean wherever that may be.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: As long as you can improve your team by trading
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: that player, I don't care where that player goes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment plenty more ahead on
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a busy day as we lead into the NFL league year.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Next week, this twenty twenty five season will officially begin,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: free agency will get underway. We'll discuss some pending free
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: agents for the Jaguars. Coming up again. Christian Kirk just
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: moments ago traded to the Houston Texans. Mitch Morris announced
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: his retirement today and this is Jaguars happy hour.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Most people know that he cut his teeth a bit
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: with the Rams. He actually was a Kentucky the year
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: that Will Levis had a terrific season in Kentucky. But
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: what struck me about the Bucks run game last year
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: was how multiple it was. Because you know, everybody assumes, hey,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: he was with the Rams, so it's the zone run game.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: You know, the McVeigh run game. But I thought they
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: did a really really good job with the multiplicity of
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: the run game and the way they got to base run.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: See the main thing in the run game, there's not
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: a thousand run concepts, so it's really how you get
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: to them. It's funny. I had this conversation with a
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: coach this morning because and I even asked him. I said,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: you know, you hear people say so, and so it's
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: a really good run game. Coach like, what does that mean?
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: You know you're a defensive guy, what does that mean?
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: And you know, he talked about how teams get to runs,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: formation motions, you know, misdirection looks, you know, but the
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: then when the run happens, like I said, there's not
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: a thousand of them.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: That is Greg Coach. Cell of the NFL Films and
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: NFL Matchup, Welcome Back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Jeff Lagam, Great Cosel, the nephew of the great, late
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: great Howard Cosell. Does a great job with the NFL
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: films and all the matchup on ESPN. Yeah, yeah, it
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: does a good job really breaking down film and doing
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the whole thing. On social media, and nice to visit
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: with him at the combine again. All the interviews at
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Jaguars do common together on one video on Jaguars YouTube.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: And it's a busy time of year at Daily's place logs,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: very busy Zach Top last night out of nowhere? And
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: how old is he?
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Young twenties, young twenty six?
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were telling me the story that he was
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: going to be playing a local place and then it
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: literally sold out, and then he moved it to Daily's
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Place a couple of days before and then sold out,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: sold out last night.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Zach Top, unbelieved z a c right, Yes, Zach Top,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: he was fantastic. Got to add him to my Spotify.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: He was great, all right, So great crowd last night.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Coming up March firfteenth to Coraif for band, that's Jimmy
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Buffet's backing band, Tricking Concert. Teddy Swims made tenth tea
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: paid added May thirty. First sticks This is up your
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Alley Sticks with Kevin Cronin and Don Felder June second
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: log like the real original Sticks. I don't know how
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: many are left, but I'm sure there are probably some
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: members of Stix that will be there. Yeah, that's one
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of the seventies bands. I was okay with them. Okay, yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: okay with them. Cool tickets at Dailiesplace dot com and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: more show information as well. Busy summer ahead there at
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the Dailies again. The breaking news just moments ago, Christian
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Kirk traded to the Houston Texans for a seventh round
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: draft pick in twenty twenty six. Earlier today, Mitch Morris
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: announcing his retirement from the National Football League. And we're
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: less than a week away from NFL free agency beginning
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: in the start of the league year. So a lot
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: of pending free agents for the Jaguars. Do you bring
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: some back? Do you not? How many? You know? All
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: that's in play right now too. So there's a lot
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: of business being dealt here in Jacksonville.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Well, and it's getting ready to get pretty ight the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: next week, right, I mean, doesn't the legal periods time?
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the legal tampering period, if you will, the Monday
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and Tuesday and then Tuesday, and that's.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: What it's I mean, look, it's already started. Let's let's
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: not kid ourselves, okay.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Here though everywhere else in the league. Yeah, look, I'm
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: I hear you.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the the conversations are happening, however they need to happen.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: But I mean the reality is that by creating a
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: tampering period, a known tampering period, essentially the league is
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: acknowledging that we cannot stop it. So we're just gonna
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: call it a legal tampering period because we know it's
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: going to happen even before the legal tampering period. Once
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: we put that name on it, it is what it is,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: you know. And look, uh, looking at the free agent list,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit slim pickens this year.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: You're going to be able to, I think, fill some
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: holes on your roster, which I think is always the
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: main object of free agency. But I mean you're not
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: gonna get any stars. I don't think you're gonna get
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: guys that all have some kind of chinks in the armor,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: so to speak. I think the interesting one is is
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Joey Bosa. Now, who is guys out there now after
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: getting released by the Charger And what will that do
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: to the market of events. I mean, Sweats kind of
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: was that top guy on the market. Now you put
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: a boas out there and just the name itself attracts
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of attention.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: And then Bengals are letting Trey Hendrickson look for a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: trade deal. Yeah, I mean that's I mean, gosh, that's
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be I.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Mean, while it's a lot of money, and then it's
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: also it's gonna you're it's gonna the price is gonna
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: be high. You're talking in an elite pass rusher. Arguably
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: the best pass rusher in the last two years in
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the league, right, I mean from a number standpoint, he.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Beat everybody by like three sacks last year.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean the last two years he's been right there.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's his numbers have I think, beat Miles
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Garrett by a couple of sacks each year.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: That's another guy that could look for it. Which which
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: is they? He doesn't he wants out. Oh yeah. Look.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And and and the Browns where he's at. They just
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: kicked the can down the road even further with the
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Shaun Watson deal. I mean, the worst signing in NFL history,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: and the Cleveland Browns continue to just kick the can
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: down the road. At some point you got to pay
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: the piper. You're just gonna have to grin and Barrett
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: and do it. At one point, at what point can
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: they just release the guy and say, you know what,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: we'll just spread the cap it over X number of years.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Could probably do that. I don't know. Maybe they feel
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: they should still.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Get some of it, but I mean, that's that's like
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: such a bad situation, and I mean, that's one of
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the reasons why Miles Garrett wants out. It was the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: worst contract in NFL history there was you had a
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: reason to have to to essentially proceed with caution with
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson. It wasn't like the allegations weren't out there
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: when they signed them, you know, and it wasn't like
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: they popped up suddenly after they gave him a guaranteed contract.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, just terrible decision by the Browns, and ownership
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: of the Browns supposedly were at the forefront of that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons why Miles Garrett wants out.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, can you compete when you have that lingering
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: over your franchise?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It's tough to No, you can't. It's tough. Not a
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: good situation. Plays well, okay, different he hadn't played well
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and he's been hurt, So not a good deal. Haven't
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: got anything out, not a good by the way, Wednesday
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the twelfth is the start of the league year at
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: four o'clock crest. So Monday, two, Tuesday, Tampa away all
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: day Wednesday.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Negotiate your contracts on Monday and Tuesday, and then announce
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I'm on Wednesday, which you're not supposed to do, right,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: You know you're supposed to.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Actually you're supposed to. You're supposed to.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Wait for the negotiations until free agency starts, which is
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: a bunch of bs. It's happening even probably right now.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: That's reality.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That's how it works. Yeah, it's free agency, man, I'm
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: all for it. What do you guys make money? Jags
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: have some holes now, so how many can you plug
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: in free agency? There are some some dollars coming back
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: after this curtain deal.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: In a in a perfect world that you would you
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: would plug all the holes in free agency. When I
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: say plug all the holes, I'm not talking about top
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: end guys. I'm just saying, get somebody in there that's
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: capable and if they got to roll out as a
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: starter for twenty twenty five, okay, you can break the huddle. Yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: we're you know, we're not we're not scared. You know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: we'll be okay. But you try to fill all in
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: my opinion, you fill all the holes with guys that
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: are okay, and then then you go draft players that
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: you want to replace them with. I mean, in the
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: real in reality, you'd love to keep you know, you'd
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: love to have you know, a third or fourth or
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: a fifth round pick from two years ago or three
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: years ago stepping in to the job right now, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: then you sign a guy to compete. But I mean,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: the backlog of draft picks are not suddenly roaring to
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: the front to take control of some of these positions
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: that you need help at. And that's one of the
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: reasons why the teams where it is because you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: there's not a lot of those draft picks that are
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: ready to jump right in, you know. And that's why
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: when you have an injury like Cooper Hodge as you
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: got dog on it, you know, he's a guy that
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: you felt really good about, you know, and you go
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: back in Jaguars history, Tavian Banks was a guy that
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of Jaguar fans are maybe too
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: young enough to even remember him. He was a guy
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: that was and I thought gonna be a great third
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: down back for this organization, and had had a bad
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: knee injury, horrific knee injury and and really never made
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: it back. But and Michael Cheever another one who had
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: an injury. It was, you know, drafted to be a
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: center out of Georgia Tech, good guy and was a
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: good football player and then had a back injury and
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: then career was cut short.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, so even though I mean, first of all,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: you got to try to get a good player, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: then you have to have a little bit of luck
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: to have that player end up getting to the point
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: where he's been a productive player for you, you know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: staying healthy, et cetera. So, but this franchise needs to
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: get to the point just like the Rams have been
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: doing over the last couple of years, which James Gladstone
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: was a part of, to where you're drafting and developing,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: drafting and playing gating players that can come in and
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: play football. Everybody thought the Rams after the Super Bowl
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: because of their cap situation, we're going to be junk
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: after that, they never got to the point of being jumped.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: They went out and they drafted good football players without
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: having a high amount of picks and then we're a
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: good football team they needed. This football team needs to
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: get there.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Gladstone was behind the scenes of most of that, as
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the scouting.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Well a big part of it. Do you see Sean
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: mcvay's comments on Gladstone recently. It's something about how Gladstone
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: is an absolute stud and he's excited about seeing what
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: he does in Jacksonville. I want to say it was
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: on Pat McAfee or something that mcvaye was on and
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: just I mean singing the praises of James Gladstone. And
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you know when you see that, mcvaye's not going to
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: blow smoke. There's no reason to blow smoke at this point.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Gladstone's got the job. So when McVeigh comes out and
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: says that as strongly as he does, then to me,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I think that's just fantastic for Jaguar, the Jaguar fan
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: base because if he's saying.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: That, he means it. I mean, think about the amount
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: of talent that has come out of the LA Rams
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and the McVeigh less sneed situation. Right, what three other
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: head coaches now in the league have come out working
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: for McVeigh. Yeah, that's pretty remarkable. A little coaching trees
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: got going on. And he's still under forty, isn't he
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: And oh he's you know, he's still still incredibly young
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: and got a young family and less Need you know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Less Sneed was part of the first year of the Jaguars.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was a part of Tom Coughlin's staff.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: You know, him and Matt mccoola were kind of the
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: two of the guys that were hustling, uh free agents
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and things of that nature. When I say hustling free agents,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: doing dealing with a lot of the the mechanics of
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: free agents on their visit because I remember Matt and
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: obviously Less being involved in that heavily. Two good guys,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: and less Less he's doing a great job. He's doing
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: a great job. And I don't know if you happen
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: to see some of his comments about bringing back their
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: quarterback Matthew staff effort and how they kind of renewed
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: their vows. But and he talked about the future about
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: trying to find, you know, an heir apparent, and he's
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: just he's.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: A very.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Very well spoken got great opinions on what it takes
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: and how the system works and what the NFL is like,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: he's a smart guy.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Let's need is a smart guy. I'll give you a
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: dollar if you can name his hometown less. I have
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: no idea. It's an Alabama Is it Birmingham, Tuscaloose chance,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna get it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: It's a small town. It's very Selma. Uh no, no,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I give up.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: The town called you Falla and Georgia on Georgia line. Yeah,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: it's where he's from. Yep, yep. Drove through there quite
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a few times. Goes right through there. I think, yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I think it does. And what's the.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Name of the Georgia town on the other side, Columbus, Columbus.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: So you know that's you're talking about Phoenix City that's
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: up the road. This is further south follows.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think think of the name of the
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Georgia town that's close to the border.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It starts with the sea. Though we're back in anyway,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: we're talking geography. Now we've gone off the way, way
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: way off. Back. In a moment, we'll wrap it up
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: for the day. A busy day around the Miller Electric
• 37:21
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  Speaker 6: I think that the system that he will be able
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: to bring into place, will be one that is at
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: least a way to surface where things are not right
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: quickly so you can address them. And it will help
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: provide things, you know, in a in a way that
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: makes sense and keeps making sense. So I think a
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: system helps form an identity, and identity is really hard
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: to keep over time, especially you know when you've had
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: different people rotating through for a while, then it's hard
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: to have an identity. So right, but we've that focus
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: in that system, and that structure creates a nice foundation
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: to work from. That's that's where I think you will
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: know what is JAG right, Like how what are the
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: traits that we what is our emission statement?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Cynthia Friedland, NFL media analytics expert, joining us at the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: combine last week. The full interview and all of them
• 38:21
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• 38:24
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  Speaker 2: Crew Free Agency March twelfth off season program April seventh,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: business being attended to today, Mitch Morris retiring from the NFL
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: the JAG Center, and then Christian Kirk just a few
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: moments ago traded to the Houston Texans for a twenty
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: twenty six seventh round pick. The word was he was
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: gonna get cut anyway, so get a draft pick out
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Well, and then part of the reason why I think
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of times that information gets put out about
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: how he's going to get cut is to put everybody
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: on notice that Hey, look, you know, if you want them,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: give us a call.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the big news of the day.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: We're at the Combine last week and we're sitting there
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm kind of scrolling around on the internet and boom,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: here comes the NFLPA twenty twenty five report card that
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the player's Association puts out every year. Just happened to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: pop up during the combine week. And this has been
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest tools that the NFLPA has had
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: available at their discretion since they came up with the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: idea of doing it. How long have they done this?
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Not that long? I mean, I mean it didn't exist
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: when I was playing.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I wish it did.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I think because the actual report card on teams have
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: actually spurred change with a lot of teams that have
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: had poor grades in certain categories and the wars overall
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: ranked in the teams. I don't think it was eighteenth
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: overall in the National Football League.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Well, they were fifth the year before overall fifth. Yes,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: so fell from fifth to eighteen.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: And some of the comments were quite striking if you
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: read the overview. When asked what their top improvement area
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: would be, each of the top three answers reflect low
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: ratings of former head coach Doug Peterson. Players cite poor
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: time efficiency, a lack of willingness to listen, and a
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: weak team culture, all issues they hope head coached Liam
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Cohne will address going forward. The positive note on the
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: summary says the team's recently upgraded physical facilities continue to
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: receive strong grades, as does ownershot Con and.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: All right, I have a quick comment slash question. Yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: it's always coaching in the NFL. We know this, right,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the blown coverages in the back end,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the one score losses where you might have thrown a pick.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit everything.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: But they get the you know, players get the opportunity
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: to go vote and after the fact, hey, this is
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: what happened. I don't know. Well, I will say that
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: everybody is at fault.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: If you ran the analytics on the report card, which
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you would do that, you would
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: probably most likely find that winning and losing is the
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: greatest influence on where the grades are at. So teams
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: that win will have higher grades. Is it because they're
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: doing it the right way? Or is it because the
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: team is winning and it makes everything, makes the food
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: taste better, makes the relationships better, locker room is spacious
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: all the same year exactly, and so I think a
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: lot of that has to do with it. And it
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: was a tough year and I think which obviously reflected
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: in some of the grades. But I think it's good
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: that the NFLPA does this, and I don't think it's
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: the end all be all, but I think it's an
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: indicator and it can be used to help spur change
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: in situations where change is needed. And some of the
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: categories that are that are kind of low. Treatment of
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: the families is right there at the bottom. I mean,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: they got an F in that, So you know, I
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: don't know exactly what the good teams do differently, but
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I think as an organization you would like to find
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: that out to maybe have that be a better grade
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: going forward. Head coach was the second worst grade in
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: the National Football League thirty first because Doug got a C.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: The other see the food dining area, which is kind
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: of surprising to me because here at the mech the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: brand new cafeteria. So is that that you're not winning
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: the food doesn't taste good? Or is that that the
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: food needs to be better here?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man silly, but to give you an idea,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: you're talking about winning can change thing.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure can.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: But why are the Chiefs ranked twenty sixth out of
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: thirty two teams? Then? And what in overall twenty six
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: great question? Chiefs, it's a great question. Their ownership gets
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: a C minus. Great question.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: And what is Andy Reid's like the best coach and
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: one of the best coaches on the list?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Right he gets an A plus he's fourth, But like
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: facilities are a big demerit there for.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: And and here's the here's the great thing that report
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: card now can get red from ownership to team president
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: to Andy Reid to the city of Kansas City, but
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: which remember now there's a stadium thing kind of going
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: on there that they'd like to have a better stadium
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: and better facilities out of all of that, right, So
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: you know, I think that this is another tool to
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: help kind of get some of that change.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: It also, and I don't know the Kansas City. I've
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: never been to their actual football facility.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Wall you have well, I know you haven't been. You
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: you've never been in the stadium.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I've been to the stadium, but I don't know if
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: they practice there.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, facilities right there.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: It's right there. It goes to show you can win.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: With I'm pretty sure the facility almost positive.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: You don't have to have, like I mean, you can
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: go win if you have good football players.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean looking Yeah, I mean, look, there's a
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: lot of ways to win. I don't think there's You
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: don't have to have the best facility, the best dietitian,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the best food, the best coach, the best weight room,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the best field. You don't have to have all the
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: best of everything. You can help it doesn't hurt. The
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: most important thing you need is the right culture and
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: the right players. That should be right there at top.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: But they don't have a culture category. But somehow the
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: culture came up.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: How do you rank cultures?
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Everybody's got a different that's a great that's a great question.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know that.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: But the culture came up when it was evaluating Doug
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Peterson in the survey on their overviewe So, but there's
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: not a culture category that I found.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: At least culture is very strong in Philly these days,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: probably because.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: And he got a big fat extension. He certainly twenty
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: one million a year something like that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: He's worth it.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: He's a great player, great player, and he signed a
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: new deal when he got there. So this is is
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: this added on or did they renegotiate the Because I
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: was trying to figure this out.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know the answer to that one.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: We'll find that out. We'll bring it up next week.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: But I mean, he's the highest paid running back in
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: the National Football League. He's the best running back in
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: the National football He should be the highest paid running
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: back in the National Football League. I mean, what do
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: you think Jalen Hurts was worth? Like, ignore what he's
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: making now. If you had to put a number on
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts in today's not last year's cap or this
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: year's captain. I don't think he is. I think he's
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: a really good football player. I don't think he's fifty
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: million dollars a year quarterback.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: For Barkley's a two year, forty one million dollar extension extension,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: so he's tacked on. So he's making over twenty What
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: did he get upfront out of that thirty six million
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: full guarantee? Exciting? Making her an additional fifteen million through incentives.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Good for him, But it works so well because Hurts is.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Such a weapon alls well, I mean, look those two guys,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: those two guys compliment each other. Having Jalen Hurts a
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: running quarterback make Saquon Barkley a better back because the
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: thread of Jalen Hurts running helps him from a number standpoint,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: So they help each other. Barkley helps take the pressure
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: off the passing game, helps Jalen Hurts have a better
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: pocket because of the thread of Barkley is a runner.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's complementary. So those two are really good,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: really good for each other, really good for each other.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: But I mean Jalen Hurts, if I had to put
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: a number on him, I mean super Bowl quarterback. I mean,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I'm giving him as props, but I mean I'm he's
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: not in the category of Mahomes, which Mahomes is a
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: fifty million dollars a year quarterback.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Right, You're gonna let him walk? Jaialen hurts. I don't.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I don't want to let him walk. I mean, he
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl for him. He will pay him fifty.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Do you think somebody would pay him fifty?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Keeps playing at a high level, they keep winning games, Oh.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Fift, they keep winning games. He's gonna be make fifty.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: But I mean, right now, I'd put him in a
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: forty forty category.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a lot. He got the exception already.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: He's already got it. And where is he at now?
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: He's fifty, He's fifty one a year. He's fifty one
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: a year. Yeah, he already got an extent. It's good
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, are you sure he's fifty one? I'm
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: looking at it. He's at fifty one and Trevor's at
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: what fifty five? Because he was drafted in twenty three
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and then, uh sid he's a good football player. I
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: know that.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I love how he just stays cool and calm. There's
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: a there's points so the and I'm kind of nitpicking here.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes he doesn't see the field as a
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: pass I think leads to some fresh frustration from his
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: wide receivers, which has been noticeable over the last couple
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: of years at times. But the threat of him running
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: the way that he can essentially guarantee a third and one,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: a second and one or a fourth and one because
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: of the push, and he's a big part of that.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: He's a really good football player and Super Bowl champion,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: So I guess he is worth fifty, right.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I mean it's getting.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Best, especially when the when the cap was is going
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: to go up by how.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Much this year? Another twenty five or.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: So twenty five, the thirty million something like that. It's
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: like every year it's just taking an these huge jumps
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: and every That's why a lot of teams are pushing
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: that money out into the future because they just feel like, oh,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the cap, the cap will keep growing just because it
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: has been probably will be. It has been grown by.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: A lot, especially when they redoing the money. All the
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: media contracts in a number of years, they're all due
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: about the same time. Yeah, and then, uh, I guess
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of these streaming services are talking about getting
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: into the mix for the weekly broadcast stuff. I mean
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: not just little you know games here and there. I
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: don't know what Netflix played for the Christmas Games, but
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: it wasn't cheap to get two games. No, no, And
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: they're talking about maybe being a player for the like
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: with compete against a package with Fox or CBS to
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: get a regular rotation.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine, definitely imagine. You know, a couple
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: of years ago, I couldn't imagine that. But I mean nowadays,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, streaming services seem to be like the norm.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: It's not like it's a it's a rarity anymore.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, next week clocks four o'clock. Yeah, it's gonna be
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: the day after free agency. So we might have actual
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: free agent free agency around and sign that's great. You
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: never know. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Wednesday, Wednesday,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: four o'clock. We're on the air Thursday, four o'clock. So
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: it starts Wednesday at four four o'clock. Okay, so they
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: could end up having somebody walk in the door right
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: in four o one. They could in theory fastest contract
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: negotiation effort. I'm believing I have a great week.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you two, and I'm looking forward to free agency
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: and looking forward to what's next. Host football team.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: That's Jeff Logman, I'm JP Shatterck. And thanks to Joe Fortunato,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Brett Reeberd, David Choe and our entire crew. And thanks
• 50:15
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