Latest / Sincerely American / Fixing Food From the Ground Up | Brooke Rollins
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- 0:09All right, we're back with Secretary Brooke Rollins, who is
- 0:12a dear friend of Drake, my husband.
- 0:14They know I talk about Drake all the time.
- 0:17He is fantastic. You're fantastic.
- 0:19I am just so proud of everything you're accomplishing.
- 0:23Like you are just truly a Wonder Woman.
- 0:24I wanted to touch on like the work that you're doing, but I
- 0:26also wanted to talk more about big picture things cuz there's a
- 0:29lot of women who look up to you and want to know how you do it
- 0:31all. So we'll jump into it.
- 0:34What do you think is your biggest achievement in 2025?
- 0:37What are you most proud of? Because you guys have just
- 0:38revolutionized the agriculture and this job.
- 0:42You just are taking this to historic levels.
- 0:44Yeah. Well, Jamie, first of all, it's
- 0:46so fun to be on with you. I am so proud of you.
- 0:51I remember in early 2021 when we were launching America first
- 0:55policy and I heard your name and of course you're married to our
- 1:00Drake and love all of the Franklins, but I remember trying
- 1:03to hire you and and look at you now it's so impressive.
- 1:07So I just it's so fun to be on and I'm so proud of you and and
- 1:11what you're building and I just it it's it's incredible.
- 1:14This is how we're going to save the country is great patriots
- 1:17like you who are willing to lean in.
- 1:19So thank you you're. So kind.
- 1:20You know, 2025, it seems like what was a year ago yesterday,
- 1:25we were at the Capitol watching the president get sworn in for
- 1:29those of us that had been with him in the first term.
- 1:33And then building the infrastructure in the the great
- 1:36pause is what I call it to prepare for a potential return.
- 1:39And then to be able to actually execute on all of that for the
- 1:44American people just has been, I mean, what a blessing.
- 1:48Like I, I believe so strongly God's hand is on all of this
- 1:52work. And a year ago, I guess a little
- 1:55more than a year ago, when I was really trying to help the
- 1:58president get ready and set up and who should be on his team, I
- 2:02did not expect to be the secretary of Agriculture.
- 2:05This was his idea. And I obviously come from a
- 2:08rural background. I was raised on a farm.
- 2:10I have lots of generations of row crop in my background.
- 2:13I was an agriculture major in college, but I just, I just
- 2:18never occurred to me until the president.
- 2:21I were talking about it one day and and now looking back, I
- 2:24think it is. So I don't know if I should use
- 2:27the word providential or not. But to answer your question,
- 2:29I'll say this. There is no one more important
- 2:33to America than our farmers and ranchers.
- 2:35If we can't feed ourselves, not only good healthy food, but if
- 2:40we can't feed ourselves, if we begin to rely on other
- 2:42countries, we will lose the taste of freedom.
- 2:45Our your children, sweet Vivi, and my kids and my future
- 2:49grandkids will not understand freedom.
- 2:51That's how important this is. But you marry that to the last
- 2:54decade or so. We've lost about 150,000 family
- 2:57farms for a lot of reasons. But the Biden administration
- 3:01declared war on rural America, whether it was no new trade
- 3:05deals, whether it was input cost going up 30 to 40%.
- 3:10We've lost so many family farms. So first accomplishment is
- 3:14moving the farmer, the rancher back to the center of policy
- 3:17making here, which the president has done and and hopefully I've
- 3:21been an important part of that. But secondly is the work.
- 3:25And I know you interviewed my great friend Bobby Kennedy is
- 3:28returning to the idea of making America healthy again with real
- 3:33food. And for me, as a Maha Mama 4, my
- 3:37mom, I'd like to say, was the original Maha mom in the 70s and
- 3:40she was raising us. But what I see there is a
- 3:43fundamental shift in the future of our country.
- 3:46And so it's important for all Americans as we're facing such
- 3:49terrible chronic disease crisis, but also when you put real food
- 3:53back in the middle of it, the people that are going to benefit
- 3:56the most, not just everyday Americans, but the farmers and
- 3:59ranchers, because they are the solution to that challenge.
- 4:02And I just couldn't be more excited about the future with
- 4:04our farmers and ranchers leading the way on that.
- 4:07It sounds so simple, eat real food, but it's it for some
- 4:10reason it hasn't been the last few years.
- 4:12We're eating a water processed food.
- 4:14So I kind of want to hear, you know, obviously the woman who
- 4:16watched, they love what you guys are doing on the health and
- 4:18Wellness side. We go to the grocery store
- 4:20everyday. That's mom's jobs are in the
- 4:22grocery store. We're picking out our produce
- 4:23and everything. So I, I think we see how it
- 4:25affects our day-to-day life. I kind of want to hear I, I
- 4:27always see you with these great farmers and ranchers across the
- 4:30country. You're just so hands on and
- 4:32meeting with everyone. I want to hear their reaction to
- 4:35this food pyramid and just the work that you're doing and it's
- 4:37something that's maybe stood out to you about this work.
- 4:40You know, I the greatest part of my job.
- 4:42Listen, I love being in Washington.
- 4:45I love the incredible team at USDA.
- 4:48You know, it's a new world for for me and this work and being
- 4:52in the cabinet and in the succession to the presidency.
- 4:56I mean, who thought a small town kid from Glen Rose, TX, right?
- 4:59Single mom. I mean, this is crazy.
- 5:01But really what I've loved the most of all of it is connecting
- 5:06with our farmers and ranchers around the country everywhere I
- 5:09go. I think I've been to almost 30
- 5:11states now, some states multiple times.
- 5:14Everywhere I go, I visit a farmer, I do a round table and I
- 5:18ask them what is the biggest challenge facing you today?
- 5:22And I take very copious notes and I come back and then we work
- 5:25to solve at warp speed. And I think a lot of it we have
- 5:29solved for at the beginning I heard about the cost of Labor
- 5:31under the H2. A program was unsustainable.
- 5:34We fixed that. I heard that there had not been
- 5:36a new trade deal in four years. We fixed that.
- 5:39We have 24 new trade deals with a lot more coming.
- 5:41I heard over and over again about the war on cattle because
- 5:45the radical leftist, the Democrats, said that cattle gas
- 5:50caused climate change, so they were trying to shut our cattle
- 5:52industry down. I mean, one thing after another.
- 5:55And I believe looking back now, being able to answer those
- 5:58farmers and ranchers with, I hear you, here's what we're
- 6:02doing, the president has given me carte blanche to fix these
- 6:04problems and that's what we're working to do.
- 6:07So there's no doubt that our farm economy is still under
- 6:10distress. I mean, this is years of neglect
- 6:13and over regulation, etcetera. But we are making so much
- 6:17progress and I'm so excited about that.
- 6:18So now I'm hearing a lot of thank yous from our farmers.
- 6:21Thank you. But we still have to fix this,
- 6:23which I hear them loud and clear and we're still working so hard.
- 6:27Well, I love that you a lot of times will bring them into round
- 6:29tables with the president. I've seen that many times on TV.
- 6:32Brooke is always on TV. I call her Brooke Still
- 6:34secretary. It's so important to me to get
- 6:40the message out and I feel like I have been called to meet this
- 6:44moment to represent our AG industry and our farmers and
- 6:47ranchers, to make sure they're in the Oval Office and make sure
- 6:51they're around the cabinet room in those meetings.
- 6:53And and to make sure the president heart, he says it and
- 6:56he said it all along. The people that have been with
- 6:58me the longest and the most dedicated are farmers and
- 7:02ranchers, rural America. And he's right.
- 7:04So I have to marry that. I have to build the bridge with
- 7:07the president is so focused on making sure that you have what
- 7:11you need, but we've got to make sure the policy is following
- 7:14that and that really focused on that too.
- 7:16I love that going off of this. So a lot of parents like myself,
- 7:20we're concerned about school lunches.
- 7:21And even when I was growing up in the early 2000s, I remember
- 7:24these school lunches are low quality.
- 7:26But a lot of kids count on that. So I know that's a big priority
- 7:29that you guys have with improving school lunches,
- 7:31improving the produce, real food.
- 7:34How are we doing that? As well as keeping in mind that
- 7:36we, you know, a lot of especially lower income kids and
- 7:39lower income areas want to make sure that this food is also
- 7:42affordable. I know you guys are doing great
- 7:43work on that, so I just wanted to hear your thoughts.
- 7:45Thank you for asking that. You know, we have the the new
- 7:49dietary guidelines and flipping the triangle upside down and
- 7:52putting real food back in the middle of it is just such a game
- 7:55changer. The biggest nutrition reset in
- 7:58our country's history by the government.
- 8:00And so that's important. But for me, if we can't get this
- 8:04food to the most vulnerable communities, if if those
- 8:08families, those single moms who are trying to get food on the
- 8:11table and work three jobs and make sure their kids have good
- 8:14education, if she can't, doesn't have access to that healthy
- 8:19food, then, then what does it matter?
- 8:21Now the school lunch is important for that reason.
- 8:23And so we're recalibrating the school lunches we're making,
- 8:25making sure we're incentivizing that locally grown fresh
- 8:30produce. And this is going to take time
- 8:32to really change the system. But we're already making such
- 8:35great, great steps in that direction.
- 8:37So we'll begin to see real changes in the school lunch
- 8:39program this fall. But the bigger question for me
- 8:42is all of these moms and dads who live in more socioeconomic
- 8:47economically disadvantaged communities that don't have a
- 8:49Whole Foods can't afford a Whole Foods that you know, they can't
- 8:53go buy a steak at at a fancy grocery store.
- 8:55But what are we doing? The 250,000 retailers across
- 8:59this country that take the food stamp program, the SNAP program,
- 9:03250,000. That's a mind boggling number.
- 9:06We are requiring them, if they want to continue taking that the
- 9:09food stamp money from the government, they have to double
- 9:12their stocking standards, meaning they have to double the
- 9:15amount of stock they're on their shelves that qualify as part of
- 9:19our new dietary guidelines. So the corner bodega, the the
- 9:23711, the, the, the convenience stores that take the EBT cards,
- 9:27they're now going to have to double the amount of healthy
- 9:29food that they provide. Well, I think aside from maybe
- 9:32some crazies, I think everybody was on board with that there.
- 9:35There was running jokes I saw all over X on an Instagram where
- 9:38people were showing that like Skittles were on snap.
- 9:41And that is crazy because I do think that if obviously I think
- 9:45Americans want to help out people who come from our socio
- 9:47economic challenged areas, but we need to do that in a healthy
- 9:50way. So I love that you're doing
- 9:51that. OK, switching gears, you worked
- 9:54in the first Trump administration, obviously at the
- 9:56Domestic Policy Council. You've just been by his side
- 9:59since the beginning. And I just see the way he looks
- 10:02at you. He counts on you.
- 10:03You guys have just an incredible relationship, truly, and he
- 10:06really values everything that you've done.
- 10:08So what is the best part about working for President Trump?
- 10:11Maybe like a funny story or something.
- 10:13Yeah, You know, I love that man. He is not the easiest boss, but
- 10:21nor should he be. He's the president of the United
- 10:24States of America. He suffers no fools.
- 10:28But the flip side of that, Jamie, is if he believes in you
- 10:33and your competency and your ability to get things done, he
- 10:38gives you the keys to the Kingdom.
- 10:39And for me, having been by his side in Term 1, having in the
- 10:44darkest days of early 21, throughout 21 when everyone, you
- 10:49know, thought he was going to either go to prison or be
- 10:50bankrupt or both potentially dead, almost happened.
- 10:54That just seeing him in the good days and the bad days, he never
- 11:00wavered in his love for America, in his love for his team, in his
- 11:06work to save the country, he has always put that first.
- 11:10And for those of us that experience have experienced it,
- 11:13it is history making, it is game changing, it is country saving.
- 11:17And so working for him to execute that vision.
- 11:21We don't get much sleep in the Trump administration, but it is
- 11:25the honor of a lifetime and has been my great joy to be by his
- 11:27side all these years. I love that.
- 11:30I think he surrounds himself just with such incredible woman
- 11:34and including yourself, but you are so busy.
- 11:37You do it all and you're just truly.
- 11:40I think for a lot of women who watch this, including myself,
- 11:42you are goals. You are icon like the way that
- 11:44you just work and get it all handled.
- 11:46What is your advice to a woman that do want to achieve it all
- 11:49but also be devoted mother, a devoted mother like yourself?
- 11:52How do you do? How do you make it all work?
- 11:53You know, thank you for saying that.
- 11:55There are days that it works perfectly and then there are
- 11:58days that it doesn't. So always give yourself some
- 12:01grace for the days that it doesn't.
- 12:03It's funny now my I have 4:00 kids 2IN college.
- 12:07My two sons are in college. My 2 girls are still in high
- 12:10school. They're a sophomore and a
- 12:11senior. They were here in DC.
- 12:12They just flew out this morning. We talk about this a lot because
- 12:15my 17 year old Anna is off to College in the fall and she's
- 12:20just the most beautiful. Well both girls just have the
- 12:22most beautiful heart. They love Jesus, they love their
- 12:25country and to hear them now say you know my mom is amazing.
- 12:31She's done it all and she's never missed a tennis match.
- 12:34I mean, for me that says everything I think.
- 12:37And I have missed a few tennis matches, to be fair, but I love
- 12:39that in her mind I haven't missed any.
- 12:41But what I would say is keep First things first, your family,
- 12:45your husband, your kids have to always come first.
- 12:47And the way I have approached it is if there was ever a time in
- 12:51the last 21 years of me raising these amazing kids that even one
- 12:55of them said, mom, I need you like you're not, you're not,
- 13:01you're gone all the time. You're not at home, you're not
- 13:03cooking dinner. Like why?
- 13:05What's wrong? I would have completely changed
- 13:07everything to recalibrate back to that.
- 13:10But what I did through all the years is putting those kids
- 13:13first, cooking. Not all their their dinners or
- 13:15all their breakfasts, but a lot of them.
- 13:16You're a Maha mom. Well, yes, exactly.
- 13:19Being the headroom mom, coaching Lily's Little League team,
- 13:22working to serve the food at Luke's football games.
- 13:26You know, that is at the end of the day, I'm so proud of this
- 13:28work to save the country and I do believe that we are saving
- 13:32America. But at the end of the day, it's
- 13:35my family that is the single most important thing by a lot.
- 13:38And so putting them first and then fitting in all the other
- 13:41things, sometimes late at night and early in the morning has
- 13:44been just the greatest blessing to be able to do all of it.
- 13:46So maybe the in summary, I would just say that don't ever let
- 13:50anyone tell you, you have to choose one or the other.
- 13:53If you do choose to be home and raise your family, there is no
- 13:56better job or more important job.
- 13:58And God bless you for that. That was what my plan was 21
- 14:01years ago. I didn't plan to work all these
- 14:03years, but God kept opening these doors and, and putting his
- 14:05hand on my shoulder and saying, I've got you, I'm with you on
- 14:08this. You can do it all.
- 14:10And now that I'm kind of at the back end, not completely done,
- 14:12but at the back end, I look back and I say thank you God for
- 14:16giving me the grace and the patience and the energy to be
- 14:19able to focus on my family first, but to also build this
- 14:23work which I believe is game changing for our country.
- 14:26Something that I always have noticed about you, and I think a
- 14:29lot of people will agree with me, you're just such an eloquent
- 14:31speaker on, on all these things. You're on TV all the time.
- 14:34You're so passionate about these issues.
- 14:36For someone who, you know, wants to get into politics, what, what
- 14:39would you recommend? How did you kind of build up to
- 14:41your career today and, and become just such a great
- 14:44spokesperson for so many different issues within the Make
- 14:47America Great Again agenda and, and within the American First
- 14:50agenda? Yeah.
- 14:51And the American First agenda, you know, it goes back for me, I
- 14:56was very involved in the future Farmers of America, which
- 14:59probably a lot of your mom's that, that that ship has sailed.
- 15:02But the opportunity to be involved and to have these
- 15:05conversations and to be well read.
- 15:08You know, I know we talk a lot about how negative social media
- 15:13is and it gets in your mind and it creates these images and
- 15:16especially for our young girls. And I certainly have seen that.
- 15:19But I also see the flip side that the access to information
- 15:24into education is unlike anything ever before in the
- 15:27history of the world. And so reading a lot and
- 15:31understanding what the issues are and being willing to engage.
- 15:34I mean, Jamie, I think you're such a great example of this,
- 15:36that that leaning in in your early 20s, mid 20s, late 20s,
- 15:41not letting the school board meeting pass without saying, no,
- 15:45I don't want a boy in my daughter's bathroom or no, that
- 15:51teaching climate change to my kid and that the world's going
- 15:54to end in a decade is just not right.
- 15:56Like standing up and speaking on behalf of, and not everyone has
- 16:00the years and years of practice. And I appreciate you saying that
- 16:02some days again are better than others for me, but I'm but just
- 16:05being engaged and educating yourself and and stepping up.
- 16:08And now I think that's how we save America.
- 16:11And it's your generation that is the most faith driven, educated,
- 16:16forward leaning in in my lifetime.
- 16:19And I'm so excited about that. But it's going to take more
- 16:23Jamie's and more Drakes to get that done.
- 16:26So, so God bless those who are doing it.
- 16:28You're just so positive as well. I, I think that's what I love
- 16:31about you. You always have a positive thing
- 16:33and a positive message. And I think in this day and age
- 16:35where it's doom and gloom all the time, we need more people
- 16:38like you and I love that. OK, last question.
- 16:40What are we most excited for in 2026?
- 16:42I know that might be hard. You know, I didn't know what my
- 16:46partnership with Bobby Kennedy was going to look like.
- 16:49Someone sent me a political article that ran the day after
- 16:53we were both confirmed on the same day, February 14th, and it
- 16:57was Valentine's that said who's likely to get divorced 1st.
- 17:00And at the top of the wedding cake was Bobby and me.
- 17:04And I look back now and even then I didn't know either.
- 17:07But now that partnership with him.
- 17:09But it's really indicative of our entire cabinet is so game
- 17:12changing and so exciting and so encouraging that I think the
- 17:17work that Bobby and I are doing together on real food and making
- 17:20America healthy again is is going to change everything.
- 17:22Well, Brooke, we're just so thankful.
- 17:24You and Secretary Kennedy, you guys are doing just such
- 17:27incredible work. And I'm just so thankful for
- 17:29Drake. I'm speaking on Drake and and
- 17:31myself that we're so thankful to have you in our lives.
- 17:33You're just such an incredible role model for any young woman.
- 17:36If you don't know Brooke yet, which you probably do because I
- 17:38feel like everyone knows you now, but you should give her a
- 17:41follow because you're just such an incredible example and we're
- 17:43so thankful for you. Well, I really appreciate and
- 17:46and you know, these jobs are hard.
- 17:49There is no doubt. You've got the media coming
- 17:52after you. You've got, you know, literal
- 17:55death threats coming for you. But but staying calm sort of an
- 17:58in in the middle of the storm is often how I describe what we do
- 18:02and, and staying resolute and understanding that America is at
- 18:06stake and there's nothing worth fighting for more than this
- 18:09country. But I will also say that having
- 18:12you and Drake and others like you in my circle and seeing what
- 18:17you're doing and what the next generation is doing is one of
- 18:20the most encouraging things I've ever, ever been a part of.
- 18:23So I look forward to so many more years of working alongside
- 18:27you. But God bless you and your
- 18:29beautiful family and all the people at the Conservator and
- 18:33with your podcast and all the great work you're doing.
- 18:35It gives me so much energy and hope to.
- 18:38Thank you, Brooke, you're so kind.
- 18:39God bless your family as well. And we're going to see big
- 18:41things from you in the future. I'm looking forward to it.
- 18:45Have a good one, Brock. All right, sincerely, sisters.
- 18:48I think we learned a lot today. Like I said, we got very policy
- 18:51oriented, but there was just so much great information.
- 18:54And anything that we learned from these administration
- 18:57officials is that they're just so passionate about making
- 19:00America great again. And I'm just so thankful that we
- 19:03have these officials at the helm with President Trump.
- 19:06They're truly just improving this country and just making
- 19:09historic progress that is just for generations to come.
- 19:13And moms like myself, these are just so many issues that we are
- 19:16so passionate about because like I said, health and Wellness is
- 19:19the most important. If you don't have health, you
- 19:21don't have anything. And so I'm very proud to be here
- 19:24today. I'm really proud to be helping,
- 19:27you know, promote this agenda to the rest of the world.
- 19:29And, you know, I just, I, I, it's crazy to me that all of the
- 19:33stuff that we talked about today could even be considered
- 19:35controversial because this is issues that I think every
- 19:38American should get on board with.
- 19:40The health of our nation is so important and the health of our
- 19:42kids are so important. So I'm so thankful to have
- 19:44joined you guys here today, definitely right into us.
- 19:47We'll be back next Wednesday of a normal episode and we'd love
- 19:50to hear your feedback and if you want to see more of these
- 19:52interviews.