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Some Thursday Thoughts... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, we're rolling. Hi everybody, justin here. It's the
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  Speaker 1: After Show Podcast. It's a Thursday, October thirtieth, the day
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  Speaker 1: before Halloween. Thank you for listening, For taking time out
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  Speaker 1: of your day to listen to this podcast. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: it so much. I don't have a guest today, It's
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  Speaker 1: just me, but I'm gonna do my best to check in,
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  Speaker 1: even for just a couple of minutes, just to let
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  Speaker 1: you know what's going on. You maybe play some talkbacks
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  Speaker 1: and check in with the After Show Army and see
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. Yesterday's podcast with Actually, I thought went
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  Speaker 1: really really good. I only asked her for like five
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  Speaker 1: or ten minutes. I think we did twenty minutes, and
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  Speaker 1: we could have done much longer. Actually is a really
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  Speaker 1: close friend of mine. We've been through a lot together
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  Speaker 1: in our radio careers, and obviously she works right down
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  Speaker 1: the hall and we have kids in the same age
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. So she's a real gem. So hopefully we'll
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  Speaker 1: have her back on. But on Monday, we're gonna have Santy,
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  Speaker 1: her co host on who hired me in radio? So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna tell that whole story and his whole journey
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  Speaker 1: through radio has been absolutely insane, but he's someone that
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  Speaker 1: I look up to. So if you have any questions
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  Speaker 1: or anything for Santy, you can leave a talkback. That'll
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  Speaker 1: be on Monday Tomorrow, Halloween. And it depends on how crazy
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  Speaker 1: I am. I might check in. I might not, But
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  Speaker 1: you guys can check in on the talkbacks, which, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, you leave it on the iHeart app. You
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  Speaker 1: can leave them anytime. If you listen to this podcast,
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  Speaker 1: like at ten o'clock at night, you can leave the
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  Speaker 1: talk back then just boom, hit the button and you're in.
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  Speaker 2: Hi. Justin longtime listener Michelle here. Sorry to hear you've
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  Speaker 2: been catching flack and hate from some of the talkbackers.
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  Speaker 2: That's not necessary. I do miss Winnie. I was wondering
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  Speaker 2: if Winnie could ever be a guest on the after
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  Speaker 2: show podcast. What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: That's a great question and one that I'm asked all
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  Speaker 1: the time. My answer to that would be yeah, eventually.
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  Speaker 1: I think right now it's like too soon. But we
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  Speaker 1: had bes on. Now Beck's left and she went to
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia and we had her on. We've had Gandhi on,
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  Speaker 1: so I mean gone. He didn't get laid off. She's
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  Speaker 1: in New York neither did Bes though Becks went to Philly,
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  Speaker 1: but then Beck's actually got laid off from Philly in
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  Speaker 1: the cuts last year. At this time, I think once
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  Speaker 1: the dust settles and plus, I mean, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't asked twenty I talked to her the other
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  Speaker 1: day before she left it for Dominican Republic, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure she'd be like, yeah, I will, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I love you, but the company just laid me off.
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  Speaker 1: Now you want me to come on and support she'd
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  Speaker 1: say something like fresh like that. I know, but down
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  Speaker 1: the line, I'm sure. I'm sure it'd be fine. She'll
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  Speaker 1: probably ask for money to do so, knowing whinny, but
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  Speaker 1: she is in the DR. I talked to her before
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  Speaker 1: she left, and uh, I don't know. She seems happy,
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  Speaker 1: she seems okay. She's doing the social media influencing thing,
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  Speaker 1: which she loves to do. I'm sure. I think she
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  Speaker 1: is looking for a job and hopefully she lands somewhere
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  Speaker 1: good and she'll be just fine. I've said this a
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  Speaker 1: million times, like that girl loves money, she loves hustling,
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  Speaker 1: she loves making money, and she is going to do so.
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  Speaker 1: And she made it to the top she made it
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  Speaker 1: to kiss one O eight and from the people that like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, give me flak, that has died down for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean some people still they hate listen. So what
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  Speaker 1: that means is two things. One they hate listen and
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  Speaker 1: then they leave talkbacks during the show while listen listening
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  Speaker 1: to the show talking shit about the show. Right, So like,
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  Speaker 1: while this show is awful, remember you left Matty, you
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  Speaker 1: you let Winnie go, and now you have this piece
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  Speaker 1: of shit show things like that, which is whatever. But
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  Speaker 1: the other part of that is, this is the best
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  Speaker 1: part is multiple of those people. That means more than one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many, but definitely more than one.
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  Speaker 1: At least a few of the people that hate listen
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  Speaker 1: and leave those talkbacks are the same people that were
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  Speaker 1: complaining and doing it when Maddy left. So they were
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  Speaker 1: hate listening when Maddy left because they were angry at
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  Speaker 1: us over Maddie, and then now that when he's gone,
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  Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing. So I don't know, some
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  Speaker 1: people just like to complain. I don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but for sure a lot of people have
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  Speaker 1: kind of died down in either maybe some don't listen anymore,
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  Speaker 1: which I understand. I mean, it sucks, but I understand
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  Speaker 1: the show is different. So I don't need anybody to
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  Speaker 1: leave a talk back and tell me that, because you
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  Speaker 1: have to remember this. Nobody sees the talkbacks but me.
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  Speaker 1: I choose what Billy and Lisa see. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: a computer that goes to They only go to me.
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  Speaker 1: So you're only complaining to me. My boss isn't gonna
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  Speaker 1: see or hear it. Billy and Lisa aren't gonna hear it.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody is gonna hear it but me. So I take
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  Speaker 1: the brunt of it. That's why it was affecting me
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  Speaker 1: so much. But to like, you know, look, I know
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  Speaker 1: the show is different. Whether it's as good, worse, better whatever,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on who you ask. I think
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  Speaker 1: we're just trying to put the best show out there,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But it is sad. It's sad because we'll
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  Speaker 1: do segments. I'll say the Jonahs brothers for example, Billy
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  Speaker 1: headed Jonah's brothers story. Okay, got to talk a couple
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  Speaker 1: of talkbacks saying, you know, when he would have been
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  Speaker 1: great on this story, and you know what, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: And I have that thought too. On certain segments, certain
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  Speaker 1: stories like maybe about waitressing, right, because when he was
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  Speaker 1: a waitress, she could chime in on that and she's
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  Speaker 1: not here to do so, so that is that is sad.
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  Speaker 3: You know, longtime fan and listener of you guys, it
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  Speaker 3: was just a shock. I'm sure you've heard this. You
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  Speaker 3: guys were in super shock. So we were in a
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  Speaker 3: lot of shock as well and trying to adjust to
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  Speaker 3: one of our friends being let go, but then wanting
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  Speaker 3: to hear the rest of you obviously getting your groove
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  Speaker 3: together and seeing what's next for the show. So we
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  Speaker 3: love you hand tight. You guys are good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the hardest part, right. I understand the
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  Speaker 1: people listening that are upset. You know, you lost a friend, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then you're listening to the show and the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the circle of your friends are having fun like
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  Speaker 1: nothing happened. That's what it seems like. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: nature of the business man, Like we do the show,
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  Speaker 1: the show continues like we're all contracted employees. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: come to us and say we're going to do this.
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  Speaker 1: They just did it. And then you know, when I
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  Speaker 1: was I remember said to my boss something like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is this necessary? Like we're doing just fine. I don't understand,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, it's done, like it's over. There's
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  Speaker 1: no there's no like Billy Costa going like please, please please.
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  Speaker 1: And then for the people that say, can Billy pay her,
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  Speaker 1: that's not just not how it works, Like there's legal
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  Speaker 1: things there. Billy's contracted. I'm contracted. It's just the way
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  Speaker 1: it is, CBS. I think Morning's just had a big
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  Speaker 1: layoff the other day. It sucks men, It's just the
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  Speaker 1: way of the world. So you know, we're just doing
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  Speaker 1: the best we can, you know, And I'm not really
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  Speaker 1: angry anymore. I was. I was a little bit angry
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  Speaker 1: after the first week when they kept coming, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was really the comments about my family and being
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  Speaker 1: a dad and especially the addiction stuff that I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: this is so unnecessary, and I just got sick of
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  Speaker 1: seeing it, and so that's why I started blocking people,
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  Speaker 1: which I am sorry for.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Justin, I just listened to your chopback today. It's Wednesday,
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  Speaker 4: and I also listened yesterday Tuesday with a which was
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  Speaker 4: actually really amazing, and I listened to your explanation out
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  Speaker 4: why we were follow or block so many of us
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  Speaker 4: I think the carment I made was more It's corporate,
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  Speaker 4: aren't you, guys? And I'm really bothered while you're blocking me,
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  Speaker 4: and hopefully you can change your mind.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the good news is well, first of all, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry for blocking you, because you know, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to upset anybody. She did leave her name there, and
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  Speaker 1: I did unblock her. So if I blocked anybody and
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  Speaker 1: you're upset by it, or you think it wasn't fair,
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  Speaker 1: just DM me or well you can't d me, leave
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  Speaker 1: a talk back and I will unblock you. That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: You have to understand something that if you've listened to
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  Speaker 1: the show, listen to the podcast. I've talked extensively about
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  Speaker 1: my past, about my addiction, about some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that I've gone through. I've laughed about it because I
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  Speaker 1: can look back at it now and I can laugh.
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  Speaker 1: At the time, it wasn't funny, right, And I went
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  Speaker 1: through like the depths of hell, and it was so
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  Speaker 1: bad and so negative for me for so long that
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  Speaker 1: when I got clean, I turned my life around. That
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  Speaker 1: whole journey, Like I got to a place where I
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  Speaker 1: only wanted positivity around me, right, Like that was so
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  Speaker 1: important all the people that were close to me are positive.
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  Speaker 1: They lift me up, they love me, they don't want
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  Speaker 1: anything from me, and so I've kind of built my
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  Speaker 1: life in that way. And I know negativity is all
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  Speaker 1: around us anyway. But when it was so overwhelming, the
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  Speaker 1: negative comments over and over again, I just thought to myself,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see them, so I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: block that person. Not really out of anger towards the person.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't like, f you, but I just didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to see them comment, so I would just block them
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  Speaker 1: so I didn't see their comments. That's all. You can
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  Speaker 1: call it a childish, you can call it whatever. But
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  Speaker 1: it was really affecting my spirit. And one would say,
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  Speaker 1: don't read the comments like Billy. Billy doesn't read anything
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  Speaker 1: like this. Dude is free as a bird, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so he doesn't see anything. He doesn't even like really whatever.
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  Speaker 1: He's not involved in any of that. Me, I read
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  Speaker 1: it all because I'm a producer. I kind of have to.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see what's going on, So I'm constantly
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  Speaker 1: monitoring things, and so I shouldn't, but I do.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to live in a way that's that
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  Speaker 1: makes me feel good. It makes me think of I
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  Speaker 1: remember when I first like got clean. Now, you gotta remember,
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  Speaker 1: I came like off the street, literally like I had
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  Speaker 1: been in jail. I was on the street, and so
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  Speaker 1: I get clean, and that's all I knew. When you
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  Speaker 1: had a conversation with me, all I talked about was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the detoxes, the programs, the jails, the time
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  Speaker 1: that I'd done, the drugs that I did. That was
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  Speaker 1: my entire identity. And so for the first several months
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  Speaker 1: up to a year of getting clean, those were the
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  Speaker 1: people that I associated with in the recovery community, people
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  Speaker 1: that were just getting clean, that had just gotten out,
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  Speaker 1: and that was the basis of my conversations. But the
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  Speaker 1: longer that I stayed clean and I started to like
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  Speaker 1: work with other people and I had like a sponsor
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  Speaker 1: and I did some worker myself, I found that I
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  Speaker 1: did not it didn't feel good right because I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: living that way anymore. So I didn't want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about being in jail because I didn't want to go
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  Speaker 1: back to jail. I didn't want to talk about using
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  Speaker 1: because I did not want to keep using drugs. They
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  Speaker 1: were killing me. And so I remember I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to this guy and I was explaining it to him,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, you know what, the next time you're
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  Speaker 1: in a conversation with some people or whatever and they
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  Speaker 1: start they start talking about that kind of you know
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  Speaker 1: those things, change the subject to something positive and see
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  Speaker 1: what happens. And so I thought to myself, Okay, I'll
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  Speaker 1: try it, and so I did it. Like I was
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  Speaker 1: outside of this recovery meeting one day and there was
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  Speaker 1: three or four guys standing with me, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the topic was I think it was jail maybe, and
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  Speaker 1: I just, out of left field, like changed the topic
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  Speaker 1: to something else, like something positive about recovery, and they
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  Speaker 1: like didn't acknowledge it and went right back into the negativity.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, this is what he's talking about. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I need to like reevaluate the people that I'm associating with.
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  Speaker 1: And so I've spent a lot of time doing that,
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  Speaker 1: and now I'm happy to say I've been clean a
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  Speaker 1: long time and everybody that's in my life that's close
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  Speaker 1: to me and around me is like just loves me,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want anything from me, and lifts me up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're an active, active addiction, everybody wants something from you.
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  Speaker 1: I constantly was around people that didn't love me, didn't
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  Speaker 1: care about me, and just wanted to take from me,
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  Speaker 1: and that was my choice. I put myself in those situations.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even begin to describe how many times I
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  Speaker 1: was around people. It was constant, and I would have
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  Speaker 1: the thought, I don't even like this person, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't even want to be here. But I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: chained through addiction drugs, and you know, caught up in
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  Speaker 1: the lifestyle. So I don't know this little spiel that
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to get out there, just some context
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  Speaker 1: for the people that were blocked or whatever. It's nothing
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  Speaker 1: personal against you, and I will unblock you. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I just was like, man, I'm like sitting at my
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  Speaker 1: house reading these comments, like all the work that I
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  Speaker 1: put into this show, my entire career, Like I understand,
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  Speaker 1: I understand people's anger, and I just wish that I
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  Speaker 1: could talk to them, like in person, not necessarily through
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  Speaker 1: Instagram because I try not to like write things because
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  Speaker 1: they can take that text and they can put other places.
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  Speaker 1: Not that I would write anything bad, but you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, But talk to them in person, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and tell them how I feel and how the show
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  Speaker 1: feels and that we're all upset by it. It sucks,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, there are three people still on the show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still showing up at four o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still putting together a show every single day, putting
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  Speaker 1: all everything that I have goes into this show. It's
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  Speaker 1: all I think about when I'm at home, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not spending time with my kids. I'm working on the show,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I'm always planning what's
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  Speaker 1: going to be the best for the show, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: to see like when he leaves, when he gets laid off,
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  Speaker 1: and then people are commenting like, yo, your fucking show sucks,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm never listening to that station again. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that was She was one part of it, man, she
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  Speaker 1: was an important part. But there's three other people here.
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  Speaker 1: So if you can't get past it, that's fine. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to listen. But I guess what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: is like, give us a chance, man, because we're trying
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  Speaker 1: to find our new way to like the new normal.
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  Speaker 1: As I said on yesterday's podcast, So a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a tangent here, So I'm sorry. And again, if
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  Speaker 1: I did block. You leave a talk back and give
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  Speaker 1: me your Instagram name and I'll unblock you. If not.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good, man, it's all good. It's all good.
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  Speaker 1: But listen, have a great Halloween. I'll try to check
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  Speaker 1: in tomorrow, it depends. I might try to get up
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  Speaker 1: out of here. I've been coming in even earlier, like
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  Speaker 1: three thirty three forty five, to just try to get
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  Speaker 1: more work done. I have producer Riley helping me. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, not having winning is a big deal. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's more work for everybody, for Riley and for me,
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  Speaker 1: and I can't put it all on Riley, so I
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  Speaker 1: need to help out too, So we're stepping up. You
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  Speaker 1: should actually see is it behind the scenes? Producer Riley
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  Speaker 1: was our phone screener. Okay, she worked in a different studio,
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  Speaker 1: but now she's running the board. She took that portion
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  Speaker 1: of Winnie's job. So now we don't have a phone screener.
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  Speaker 1: The phone screener is me. So when you're listening to
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  Speaker 1: the show, okay, this is really telling of like the
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  Speaker 1: way of the world. When you're listening to the show,
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  Speaker 1: I am talking on the air while turning my mic
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  Speaker 1: off and answering the phone and then putting them on hold,
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  Speaker 1: turning my mic back on. If you joining the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm pulling talkbacks because that are coming in. Because
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  Speaker 1: Riley used to help me with the phone and the talkbacks,
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  Speaker 1: but she can't, so think about that. I'm hosting, answering
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  Speaker 1: the phone, and doing talkbacks all while trying to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of the show live on the radio. It's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely insane today. Actually, I'm going to talk to the
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  Speaker 1: boss and say, we need like somebody to come help
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  Speaker 1: answer the phones, like it's we needed. There were so
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  Speaker 1: many talkbacks that we couldn't get to. The phones were ringing,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like in a conversation, trying to have a
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Billy and Lisa and the phones are ringing
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  Speaker 1: and I can't answer them. So it was a whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: So we're working here. So I can't promise the podcast tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: but definitely Monday Santy will be on. And he's great.
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  Speaker 1: He's had a long career in radio. I remember when
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  Speaker 1: I when I applied for the internship at JAM and
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  Speaker 1: he replied back as Santy, it's his name, obviously, and
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  Speaker 1: so I replied back to him, and then I told
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  Speaker 1: a friend that I did that. I applied and I
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  Speaker 1: said some guy Santy and he goes, do you know
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  Speaker 1: who that is? That's Crazy Kulo And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, because I used to listen on Crazy
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  Speaker 1: Coulo with Romero. That was Santi. His radio name was
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Crazy Kulo. He did all the stunts on jamm and
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: so anyway, we'll cover all that on Monday. Tune in
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: on the after Show. Have a great day, everybody,