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People Who Got Their DEADLY Revenge · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: What happens when justice fails. When the law that's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to protect the innocent instead shields the guilty, some people
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  Speaker 1: take justice into their own hands. Vigilante justice is a
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  Speaker 1: concept as old as vengeance itself, where grief turns ordinary
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  Speaker 1: people into executioners and tragedy becomes the spark that ignites revenge.
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  Speaker 1: And here we explore three haunting stories where heartbreak cross
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  Speaker 1: the line into bloodshed. Three ordinary people who were broken
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  Speaker 1: by extraordinary pain. Yet each of them was consumed by
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  Speaker 1: the same thought. If the system won't deliver justice, I
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  Speaker 1: will crime, conspiracy, cults, serial killers, and murder.
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  Speaker 2: All things that I love to consume.
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  Speaker 1: And I know you do too, you sick, twisted, beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: intellectually minded. So without further redu, let's unbuckle our seatbelts,
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  Speaker 1: go mock five down the highway, slam on the breaks,
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  Speaker 1: and buster through this windshield. Together the tally. Konstantinovich Lakoyev
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  Speaker 1: was born on January fifteenth, nineteen fifty six, in the
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  Speaker 1: North Oscension region of the Soviet Union. By the early
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  Speaker 1: two thousands, he was an architect working on building projects abroad,
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  Speaker 1: and he was also a devoted family man and In
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, he married his wife, Svetlana, and together
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  Speaker 1: they had two children, a son named Constantine and a
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  Speaker 1: daughter named Diana, And by two thousand and two, Constantine
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  Speaker 1: was ten years old and Diana was four, and they
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  Speaker 1: were the pride and joy of Vitally's life. And in
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  Speaker 1: the summer of two thousand and two, the Khloyev family
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  Speaker 1: was living apart temporarily because of Italy's work, because he
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  Speaker 1: had been contracted for a project in Spain and his
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  Speaker 1: family planned to join him there for a much anticipated vacation.
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  Speaker 1: Despite the distance, they were made very close and life
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  Speaker 1: was good and full of promise, just an ordinary, happy
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  Speaker 1: family looking forward to the future. But on the night
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  Speaker 1: of July first to two thousand and two, an unimaginable
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  Speaker 1: disaster struck Vitali's life. Stetlana, Constantine and Diana were flying
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  Speaker 1: to meet him in Spain aboard Bashkarian Airlines flight two
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  Speaker 1: nine three seven and high above southern Germany. That passenger
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  Speaker 1: plane was on a collision course with a DHL cargo
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  Speaker 1: jet and in the Swiss air traffic control tower only
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  Speaker 1: one controller was active on duty, Peter Nielsen, who worked
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  Speaker 1: for Skyguide the name of the Swiss ATC Company, and
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  Speaker 1: Nielsen was juggling two radar workstations by himself, and by
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  Speaker 1: the time he noticed the impending danger, it was too late,
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  Speaker 1: and at twenty three thirty five local time, the two
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  Speaker 1: planes collided midair over Uberlingen, Germany, erupting into fire and debris,
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  Speaker 1: and all seventy one people on both planes were killed,
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  Speaker 1: including Vitali's wife and children, and news of the Uberlingdon
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  Speaker 1: mid air collision devastated families across the world, but perhaps
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  Speaker 1: none more so than Vitali Kaloyev, because in an instant
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  Speaker 1: he had lost everything, his beloved wife, his young son,
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  Speaker 1: and his little daughter. So Vitali rushed to the crash
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  Speaker 1: site in a state of shaw and amid the wreckage,
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  Speaker 1: he joined recovery teams, determined to find his family with
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  Speaker 1: his own hands, and in an extremely heartbreaking moment, Vittali
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  Speaker 1: discovered a broken pearl necklace that had belonged to Diana,
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  Speaker 1: just a small piece of his daughter in the vast debriefield,
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  Speaker 1: and shortly after he would find Diana's body miraculously intact
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  Speaker 1: because tree branches had cushioned her fall from the sky.
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  Speaker 1: But there was no such solace for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: his family, because Fetlana's body was found in a cornfield
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  Speaker 1: and Constantin's on an Ashwalt road near a bush shelter.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously the physical violence of the crash had spared
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  Speaker 1: no one for vitality. The pain was beyond description. I
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  Speaker 1: can't even imagine losing your entire being in just a moment.
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  Speaker 1: It's absolutely heartbreaking. The man who had been an act
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  Speaker 1: of professional and a loving father suddenly became, in his
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  Speaker 1: brother's words, a broken man. And in the aftermath, Kaloyev's
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  Speaker 1: mental state just deteriorated. He couldn't work, he could barely
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  Speaker 1: eat or sleep, and relatives recall finding vitally at the
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  Speaker 1: cemetery at all hours, even at two am, just weeping
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  Speaker 1: at the graves of his wife and children. And he
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  Speaker 1: withdrew from the world and locked himself away in his
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  Speaker 1: torment because his entire purpose in life had been obliterated
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  Speaker 1: on that July night, and he was haunted by nightmares
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  Speaker 1: of his family's last moments. And in the investigation that
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  Speaker 1: followed the crash, it became clear that a series of
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  Speaker 1: errors by Skyguide's air traffic control had caused the tragedy,
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  Speaker 1: Peter nils had given the Bashkirian passenger plane an incorrect
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  Speaker 1: instruction to descend, putting it on a collision path, and
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  Speaker 1: failed to notice the planes converging until it was too late.
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  Speaker 1: In an automated warning system that could have averted the
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  Speaker 1: disaster had been temporarily shut off for maintenance, so Nielsen
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  Speaker 1: was left handling multiple screens alone, a situation that would
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  Speaker 1: later be criticized as gross negligence by his employer, Skyguide.
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  Speaker 1: And to Fatally, these facts were a horrifying revelation because
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  Speaker 1: his family's death wasn't just a freak accident. It was
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  Speaker 1: a result of human failure, and in his mind, one
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  Speaker 1: human bore the brunt of that responsibility, and that was
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  Speaker 1: Peter Nilsen. So as months passed, Vitali's grief festered and
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  Speaker 1: morphed into anger, and he felt that justice was not
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  Speaker 1: being served, and Skyguide officials issued formal apologies to the families,
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  Speaker 1: but to Fatally it felt hollow and pointless. Even he
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  Speaker 1: wanted someone to personally say I'm so sorry for the
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  Speaker 1: loss of his wife and children, and he wanted an
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  Speaker 1: admission of culpability. So in the one year memorial service.
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  Speaker 1: In July two thousand and three, Vitelli approached a sky
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  Speaker 1: Guide representative and asked if he could meet Peter Nilsen
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  Speaker 1: face to face, and perhaps he needed to see the
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  Speaker 1: man's eyes when he asked why his children had to die.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps he just sought acknowledgment of his inner pain. But
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  Speaker 1: he received no answer and his request was ignored, and
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  Speaker 1: this dismissal was a turning points. The loss of his
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  Speaker 1: family had left him in a mental abyss, and now
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  Speaker 1: he believed that the people responsible didn't even have the
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  Speaker 1: decency to face him. So the feeling of being wronged
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  Speaker 1: and unheard began to burn within side of himself. So
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  Speaker 1: over the next months, Vitelli's thoughts grew darker and darker,
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  Speaker 1: and according to later reports, he had angry outbursts in
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  Speaker 1: which he referred to Nielsen as scum and even threatened
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  Speaker 1: Skyguide officials in demanding accountability. Members grew concerned as Battali
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  Speaker 1: seemed single mindedly fixated on Nielsen, and the legal processes
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  Speaker 1: were moving very slowly as they do because Swiss prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: were investigating the crash, but no charges had been brought
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  Speaker 1: against Nielsen or Skyguide by late two thousand and three,
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  Speaker 1: so to Vitally, it felt like nothing was being done well.
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  Speaker 1: The man who he believed killed his family just walked free,
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  Speaker 1: living comfortably with his own wife and children. So the
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  Speaker 1: stark contrasts between Nielsen enjoying his life with his family
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  Speaker 1: while Vitali visited three graves just became Vitali's obsession. All right,
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  Speaker 1: back to it. So on February twenty first, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and four, Battali quietly left his home in Vladikavkas, Russia,
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  Speaker 1: and he told no one of his true intentions and
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  Speaker 1: his destination was Peter Nielsen's home in the Swiss town
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  Speaker 1: of Kloten near Zurich, because Vitali had hired a Moscow
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  Speaker 1: private investigator to track down where Nielsen lived with his family,
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  Speaker 1: and now he was on his way there, fueled by
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  Speaker 1: grief and anger, so he purchased a plane ticket to
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  Speaker 1: Switzerland and arrived in Zurich on February twenty second, and
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  Speaker 1: he checked into a modest hotel near the airport called
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  Speaker 1: the Welcome Inn, just a short distance from Nielsen's neighborhood,
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  Speaker 1: and hotel staff later described Vitally as eerily quiet and unremarkable.
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  Speaker 1: During those days, he kind of kept to himself, wolf,
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  Speaker 1: often staying in his room, speaking little to anyone, most
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  Speaker 1: likely just fixated on the actions.
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  Speaker 2: He was about to commit.
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  Speaker 1: So there was nothing outwardly alarming about this middle aged
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  Speaker 1: Russian man in room three sixteen, But inside he was
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  Speaker 1: counting down the hours to a confrontation. And for two
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  Speaker 1: days he waited and watched, and the address he had
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  Speaker 1: for Nielsen was only a half hour walk away from
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  Speaker 1: the hotel, so on the afternoon of February twenty fourth,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and four, he decided the time had come,
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  Speaker 1: and Vittali slipped a twenty two centimeter, folding knife into
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  Speaker 1: his jacket, and he left the hotel and walked through
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  Speaker 1: the quiet suburban streets of Cloton toward the Nielsen family home.
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  Speaker 1: The neighborhood itself was very peaceful, and outside, a neighbor
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  Speaker 1: noticed the unfamiliar man who appeared to be searching for something,
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  Speaker 1: and she approached and asked if she could help. A
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  Speaker 1: Vitali wordlessly showed her the piece of paper with Peter
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  Speaker 1: Nielsen's name, and this helpful neighbor pointed to the correct
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  Speaker 1: house and then watched, puzzled as a straight did not
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  Speaker 1: go knock on the door. Instead, Vitelli walked into the
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  Speaker 1: front garden and sat down quietly waiting. It was just
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  Speaker 1: an eerie calm before the storm. And inside the house,
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  Speaker 1: Nielsen had just returned home from a weekend trip to Geneva,
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  Speaker 1: and it was around six pm at this point, and
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  Speaker 1: his wife picked him up from the airport, and now
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  Speaker 1: they were settling in, likely unaware of the silent figure outside.
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  Speaker 1: Nielsen eventually noticed the man in his yard and went out,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps assuming it was a confused visitor or a gardener,
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  Speaker 1: and his young children followed along, maybe thinking just nothing
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  Speaker 1: of it, because Clinton was a safe place. It was
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  Speaker 1: a safe neighborhood. But his wife did call out for
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  Speaker 1: the children to come back, but they would stay with
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  Speaker 1: their father. So Nielsen walked up to the stranger and
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  Speaker 1: asked what he wanted, and Nielsen's wife inside the house
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  Speaker 1: suddenly heard a kind of scream and she ran to
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  Speaker 1: check into her horror saw her husband engage in a
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  Speaker 1: struggle with this unknown man, and the Nielsen children stood there,
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  Speaker 1: eyes wide and just confused, and missus Nielsen desperately herself
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  Speaker 1: rushed out, only to witness the final moments of the attack.
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  Speaker 1: A Vattally had confronted Nielsen and after a brief exchange,
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  Speaker 1: lunched at him with the knife, and he stabbed Nielsen repeatedly,
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  Speaker 1: and later reports would say that Nielsen was stepped seventeen times.
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  Speaker 1: So the assault was frenzied and vicious, fueled by two
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  Speaker 1: years of pent up sorrow and absolute rage, and Nielsen
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  Speaker 1: had virtually no time to react or defend himself, so
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  Speaker 1: he was gravely wounded in seconds, collapsing in his front yard.
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  Speaker 1: So his wife arrived just as Kaloyev stood over her
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  Speaker 1: now very wounded husband, and Nielsen obviously was bleeding profusely
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  Speaker 1: from multiple wounds, and unfortunately he would die within minutes
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  Speaker 1: in front of his family and Battalikloyev would only kill
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  Speaker 1: Nielsen and he did not harm Nielsen's wife or children
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  Speaker 1: at all. His wrath was solely focused on the man
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  Speaker 1: he blamed. So with Nielsen down, Vittelli dropped the bloody
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  Speaker 1: knife and fled the scene on foot, and Missus Nielsen
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  Speaker 1: could only scream for help as her husband lay motionless.
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  Speaker 1: A police arrived at six seventeen pm in paramedics could
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  Speaker 1: do nothing, and Peter Nielsen, the thirty six year old
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  Speaker 1: father of three, was already deceased and Swiss police launched
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  Speaker 1: a man hunt immediately, and they had a description from
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  Speaker 1: witnesses a burly, unshaven, dark haired man in his late forties,
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  Speaker 1: possibly Eastern European, and the one neighbor had seen him
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  Speaker 1: close up when he asked for Nielsen by name, and importantly,
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  Speaker 1: investigators quickly found the discarded knife in a nearby bush.
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  Speaker 1: But perhaps the biggest clue was something the killer left
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  Speaker 1: behind unintentionally and it.
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  Speaker 2: Was his identity.
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  Speaker 1: So when police canvassed local hotels, they discovered that a
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  Speaker 1: Russian national named Vatil Kaloyev had recently checked into the
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  Speaker 1: nearby welcome in and his proximity to the crime made
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  Speaker 1: him a prime suspect. So the next day, February twenty fifth,
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  Speaker 1: Swiss police tracked down and arrested Vitally at his hotel,
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  Speaker 1: and he did not resist arrest because the grief crazed
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  Speaker 1: father's quest for revenge had ended in blood and now
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  Speaker 1: he was in custody. And when questioned by authorities, Kaloyev
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be just in a daze and in initial
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  Speaker 1: interrogations and later in court, he offered no clear explanation
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  Speaker 1: for what he had done and even claimed not to
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  Speaker 1: remember the act of killing Nielsen at all. It was
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  Speaker 1: like he just blacked out in a fit of rage,
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  Speaker 1: and he said he only intended to talk to Nielsen
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  Speaker 1: and to receive an apology for his family, a peaceful
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  Speaker 1: errand he insisted not premeditated murder, but the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he brought a knife, and the man repeatedly told a
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  Speaker 1: very different story, especially after such a short exchange. So
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  Speaker 1: at this point Vitali had taken the law and in
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  Speaker 1: the most violent way possible in his mind, Nielsen paid
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  Speaker 1: with his life for the lives of Constantine, Diana and Svidlana.
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  Speaker 1: The vigilante father had now exacted his revenge, but now
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  Speaker 1: there was another family who was without a family member.
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  Speaker 1: Because an eye for an eye makes the whole world bind,
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  Speaker 1: so the killing of Peter Nielsen sent shockwaves through Switzerland
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  Speaker 1: and made headlines around the world. Here was a man
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  Speaker 1: so overcome by grief that he flew to a foreign
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  Speaker 1: country to murder an air traffic controller, and Swiss prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: charged Battally with premeditated killing, a serious offense that in
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  Speaker 1: Swiss law lies between standard murder and manslaughter, and his
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  Speaker 1: trial took place in Zurich in late two thousand and five,
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  Speaker 1: and Vitali stood gaunt and sorrowful, sat in the dock
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  Speaker 1: as the court heard how he methodically avenged his family,
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  Speaker 1: and on October twenty six, two thousand and five, the
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  Speaker 1: verdict would come and he was found guilty of the
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  Speaker 1: intentional killing of Peter Nielsen and sentenced to eight years
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  Speaker 1: in prison, and the Swiss public, while sympathetic to his loss,
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  Speaker 1: still firmly viewed him as a murderer. Some even argued
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  Speaker 1: that he should have received a longer sentence and Battali's
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  Speaker 1: lawyers appealed, and in two thousand and six the Swiss
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court slightly reduced his sentence to five years and
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  Speaker 1: three months, reasoning perhaps that his mental state was deeply
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  Speaker 1: affected by trauma, and with credit for time served. Battali's
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  Speaker 1: prison term was already well under way, and in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and seven, after about three and a half years
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  Speaker 1: behind bars, a parole board approved Kaloyev for early release
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  Speaker 1: on good behavior. The prosecution then appealed the parole and
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  Speaker 1: in August the court accepted, keeping Vitali in prison. But
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  Speaker 1: on November eight, two thousand and seven, Battali was paroled
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  Speaker 1: again and walked out of prison a freeman, having served
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  Speaker 1: roughly two thirds of his reduced sentence. And what happened
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  Speaker 1: next was something the Swiss authorities found hard to fathom.
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  Speaker 1: Is when Kaloyev returned home to North Osssia in southern Russia,
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  Speaker 1: he was greeted not with scorn or shame, but with celebration,
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  Speaker 1: and at Vodakovkos Airport, a crowd of supporters gathered to
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  Speaker 1: welcome him, and young men from a local youth movement
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  Speaker 1: held up a banner in the Oscession language. That read
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  Speaker 1: you are a real man, because to them Kaloyev was
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  Speaker 1: a hero, a father who had defended his family's honor
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  Speaker 1: when no one else would, and many Russians felt that
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  Speaker 1: justice had been done, and Vitally Yusko, a representative of
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  Speaker 1: a Russian group from air crash victims' families, openly stated
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  Speaker 1: that Kaloyev is a hero because in too many cases,
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  Speaker 1: those responsible for tragedies remain unpunished and such radical vengeance
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  Speaker 1: was the only way to make them take responsibility. And
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  Speaker 1: the sentiment was widely shared in Russia, and polls and
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  Speaker 1: public commentary at the time showed significant sympathy for Vitali's act,
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  Speaker 1: viewing it as a heroic deed of retaliation and the
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  Speaker 1: heroes welcome deeply disturbed people in Swissitzerland and elsewhere in
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  Speaker 1: Western media, and they expressed to Spay that a man
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  Speaker 1: convicted of killing an innocent person, for in the eyes
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  Speaker 1: of the law, Nielsen had not been criminally guilty of anything,
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  Speaker 1: yet was being glorified. And it just sparked a giant debate.
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  Speaker 1: Was Kaloyev a vengeful killer or a grief stricken avenger
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  Speaker 1: or could someone be both? And the contrast, in perception
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  Speaker 1: was stark in Russia, with its history of war and
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  Speaker 1: cultural emphasis on honor and collect trauma, Gloyev's vendetta resonated
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  Speaker 1: emotionally in Switzerland, a nation of laws and order, His
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  Speaker 1: act was seen as a dangerous affront to the justice system,
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  Speaker 1: and for his part, Vitalikloiev never expressed remorse for what
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  Speaker 1: he did, and he publicly stated that he did not
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  Speaker 1: regret confronting Nielsen, and in one interview he said, quote,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really take offense at people who call me
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  Speaker 1: a murderer. People who say that would betray their own children,
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  Speaker 1: their own motherland, protected the honor of my children and
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  Speaker 1: the memory.
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  Speaker 2: Of my children unquote.
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  Speaker 1: So to Vitally, anyone who wouldn't seek such revenge in
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  Speaker 1: his situation lacked love for their family. And he even
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  Speaker 1: coldly remarked about Nielsen, quote, he's nobody to me. He
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  Speaker 1: was an idiot, and that's why he paid for it
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  Speaker 1: with his life unquote. The batally claimed that if Nielsen
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  Speaker 1: had simply invited him into his home that day and
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  Speaker 1: shown some empathy quote, the conversation would have happened in
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  Speaker 1: softer tones, and the tragedy might not have happened unquote,
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  Speaker 1: so in his mind, Nielsen's refusal to speak with him
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  Speaker 1: sealed his fate, and after his return, Vittali's life took
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• 22:47
  Speaker 1: More than twenty years later, people remain divided about Fatally
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Kaloyev in North Oseshia. Many still view him with respect
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and understanding, a man who did what a father had
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to do. But in Switzerland his name is a reminder
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: of a terrifying incident of visilantism, and for the families
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of the other air crash victims, the Kaloi of case
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: stirs mixed feelings. Some empathize with his anger, while others,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: like another Russian father who lost his entire family in
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the same crash, openly deplored the killing and said it
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: dishonored the memory of the victims. And I'm in my opinion,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: and we can have a discussion down in the comments below.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I am of the thought that and I for and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: eye makes the whole world blind, and in this case
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: specifically it being a horrible accident. And I can't even
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: imagine the way Nielsen felt after having been the hand
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: of helping kill seventy one people. Yes, he got to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: live on in his life, but what kind of life
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think getting revenge for that is going to
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: bring anybody back. And obviously murder is wrong and legal,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: so obviously I don't agree with that. But you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: there are some cases where it's like an intentional killing
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of an innocent person. And you know, I would, you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: turn the other cheek. You know this, It's just all horrible.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It's a horrible story. We have a man that lost
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: his entire family in a second, and then we have
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: another family who lost a father and a husband, and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: these kids will grow up in the father now.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: And is that good?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Is that right? I don't think so. But let me
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think down below. Obviously we all
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: know murders wrong, but we can talk in hypotheticals down
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in the comments. But with that, let's move on to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the next story. Mary Anne Buckmeyer was an ordinary woman
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: who has dealt a very difficult hand in life, long
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: before she became infamous. She was born on June third,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty in a small town in West Germany, and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: mary Anne's.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Childhood was troubled.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: She grew up in a very strict conservative household with
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: parents who were, by her account, very harsh and unloving.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Her father had been a soldier in World War Two,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a member of the wten SS, a combat branch of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the Nazis paramilitary, which brings a whole new meeting to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: my dad's being a Nazi he literally was a Nazi.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. And he was obviously an authoritarian
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: figure at home, often drinking heavily and growing aggressive, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: her parents' marriage fell apart at one point, and mary
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Anne clashed with her mother and stepfather to the point
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: where she was kicked out of the house as a teenager.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So by the age of sixteen, mary Anne was essentially
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: on her own, and the turbulent upbringing led her into
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a rebellious youth.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: So as a.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Teenager, Marianne sought love and stability that she never felt
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: at home, and she would become pregnant at just sixteen
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: years old with her first child. So overwhelmed and barely
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: more than a child herself, she made the painful decision
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to give up that baby for adoption, and two years later,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: at eighteen, she became pregnant again by her boyfriend. But
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: tragedy would strike during that pregnancy and mary Anne would
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: be worked shortly before giving birth. And for those of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you listening on YouTube, I need to heavily censor things,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: but she got taken advantage of by a man. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: just want to make sure you had that context. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: traumatized and struggling, she also gave up the second baby
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: for adoption as an infant. By the age of twenty,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Marianne had already endured more heartbreak than many do in
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: an entire lifetime, so these experiences just hardened her in
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: some ways, but they also fueled an intense protective instinct
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: over the one child she would eventually keep. So in
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, at twenty two years old, mary Anne
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: had a third child, a daughter named Anna, and the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: father was a man who managed a pub where Marianne worked,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and this time at Marianne to raise the child herself,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: determined to be a mother despite her challenging circumstances, so
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: she and baby Anna settled into the city of Lubeck
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in northern West Germany, and mary Anne was a single
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: mother trying to make ends meet by running her own
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: small pub in town. So it was a bohemian somewhat
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: wild life and Marianne often worked late into the night,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: serving drinks and sleeping during the day, and by all accounts,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: she wasn't a conventional cookie cutter mom, and she often
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: brought little Anna to the pub with her during her shifts,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: or let the child sleep in the back room while
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: she finished serving customers and allegedly partied. And friends noted
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that Marianne treated Anna more like a grown up than
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a child, expecting her to be independent from a very
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: young age. And the truth is, Marianne struggled to balance
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: motherhood with her personal life. She loved her daughter deeply,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: but she was also frank about her difficulties, and at
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: one point she even considered putting Anna up for adoption,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: thinking another family might provide a more stable life for
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: this girl. But despite the unconventional upbringing, those who knew
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: them say Anna was a happy, bright little girl, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Anna was Marianne's whole world. So by nineteen eighty, Anna
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: was seven years old and mary Anne was now thirty
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: and had matured through hardship and was doing her best
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to raise Anna right. But life as a single mom
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and a pub owner was never easy. Money was tight,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and Marianne's personal life was messy at times, but the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: mother and daughter had an unbreakable bond and they definitely
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: had weathered life's storms together. Tragically, the greatest storm was
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: yet to come, one that would destroy the life they
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: had built. So May fifth, nineteen eighty began like any
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: other day, but it would end as the darkest day
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of Marianne's life because that morning, Marianne and Anna had
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a typical mother daughter fight and upset, Anna decided to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: skip school that day instead of attending classes. But Anna
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: just want to teach her mom a lesson by not
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: going to school After their argument, but at some point
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: during that day, Anna encountered a neighbor named Klaus Grobowski.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Grobowski was a local butcher by trade and was thirty
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: five years old, and he lived not far from the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Bachmeier home. And he wasn't a stranger because allegedly Anna
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: had been to his house before, specifically to play with
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: his cats, as kids and neighborhoods sometimes do. But Grobowski
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was far from a harmless neighbor, and he had a
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: history of offenses against children and had previously been convicted
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: for child But to a trusting child like Anna, he
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: might have just seemed like a man with friendly pets.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: That afternoon, Grobowski somehow lured Anna into his house, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: some accounts suggest he offered to show her the cats
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: again or give her something. The exact pretext remains uncertain,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: but what is tragically certain is that once he had
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Anna inside, he did the unthinkable, and he would hold
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Anna captive for several hours in his home, and during
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: this time it is believed that he asked her, although
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the precise details were never fully confirmed, and Grobowski himself
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: would actually later deny doing this to her, but given
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: his past and the entire situation is strongly inferred. Finally,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: at some point on May fifth, Grobowski would murder Anna,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and Anna would die by expecting and the murder weapon
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: being his own fiance's pantehose.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Just a deplorable.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Level of evil. He is a monster, waste of oxygen.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: As I always say, just.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Horror, horrifying, and as if his acts weren't heinous enough,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Grobowski then tried to hide what he'd done, and he
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: would put Anna's body into a cardboard box, and he
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: would leave that box on the bank of a nearby canal,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: though he discover guarded her like trash, hoping her body
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be found or identified quickly. But he did not
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: get away with it for very long. His own fiance
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: had turned him in to the authorities that very evening,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and it's reported that she had noticed something horribly amiss.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Perhaps she saw Anna's school bag or sensed a disturbance
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and upon questioning, Grobowski confessed to her, and some other
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: accounts say that he simply confessed to her upon her
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: return home, but regardless of how she found out, she
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: immediately alerted the police, ensuring that Grobowski was arrested that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: same night and that Anna's body was quickly found and recovered.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: To thank Goodness for that fiance, and we can only
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: imagine how Marianne felt after hearing about what this monster
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: did to.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Her little girl.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And under interrogation, Grobowski admitted to killing Anna, but denied
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: essaying her as I said or, and instead he concocted
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: a story that stunned both police and the public. And
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Grubowski claimed that Anna tried to seduce him and blackmail him.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: She's a child, by the way, So according to his account,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: this seven year old child supposedly said she would tell
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: her mother he as her unless he gave her money,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a seven year old child, and that he stilled her
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: out of panic that he'd go back to prison. So
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you murdered a child because you didn't want to go
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: back to prison because a child was blackmailing you. I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: swear to God, I am so this grotesque lie blaming
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the victim for her own death would later become a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: central point of outrage for Marianne, completely understandably because the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: sheer insults of that claim would burn in her mind
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: every day until the trial. And as the police prepared charges,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: more of Grabowski's background came to light, and he had
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: reportedly undergone a form of castration voluntarily helping to reduce
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: his urges, but apparently it failed or.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: He just stopped treatment.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: And this was an option given to certain offenders as
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a way for them to be allowed freely back into society,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: which I don't understand. Put them in a hole in
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the ground, all right, that's my opinion, but keep it
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: open so they can just live on with their days
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and just look up at the sky and wish they
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: were dead.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Is that too much? I don't think it's too much.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And then he later tricked a doctor into providing hormone
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: treatments to help his libido return, So the point of
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the castration was what exactly, and his defense team would
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: later argue that these hormone treatments caused a hormonal imbalance
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: that influenced his actions. He's a adult who cares, but
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to Marianne and to the German public and just anyone
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: who ever or this case, it was clear Grobowski was
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a predator who had slipped through the cracks of the
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: system only to kill an innocent child. And in the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: aftermath of Anna's murder, mary Anne was inconsolable because she
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: had lost the one constant love of her life. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: to make it worse, one can only imagine she had
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: moments of terrible guilt in that morning argument tormented her.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: If only she hadn't argued with Anna, maybe her daughter
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have skipped school, wouldn't have crossed paths with this monster.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine all the what ifs that were
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: going through that poor mother's mind. So mary Anne was
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: racked with grief and anger in the months leading up
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to the trial, and she followed the case closely as
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: prosecutors prepared to charge Grobowski with murder. But as the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: legal process ground forward, mary Anne grew increasingly frustrated, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: she felt that Grobowski, through his lawyer, was trying to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: paint her daughter as somehow complicit in this sick way.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And additionally, Maryanne likely feared that even if justice was
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: served in court, it wouldn't be enough, and West German
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: law at the time did allow life imprisonment for murder,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: but actual time served could be much shorter, as we
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: saw in the last case, although not in Germany. It's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: just it's never guaranteed, and there was the haunting possibility
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that a savvy defense might get Grobowski a lesser sentence
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: due to diminished responsibility, for instance, blaming the hormone therapy,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: which is insane. So the justice system, to Marianne felt
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like it was moving too slowly and too leniently for
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the man who had shattered her entire world, and every
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: day she had to endure the fact that Grobowski was alive,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: sitting in jail and had the audacity to spin lies
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: about a child, her child Anna. So the simmering anger
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: in her was reaching a boiling point, and she later
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: said quote I heard he wanted to make a statement.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I thought, now comes the next lie about this victim
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: who was my child. Marianne's patient with the legal process
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: was almost gone, and by early nineteen eighty one the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: stage was set for a trial in Lubbeck District Court,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and everyone had an opinion on the tragic murder of
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: little Anna and what should be done with Grobowski and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: mary Anne Bachmeyer, the bereaved mother started to become a
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: familiar figure, but nothing close to what she was soon
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: about to become. So the third day of Grabowski's trial,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: March sixth, nineteen eighty one, started off routinely in the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Limbic Courthouse and proceedings were underway in Room one, p.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Fifty seven of the District Court and Grobowski sat in
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the defendant's area, facing justice for the murder of Anna,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and he was likely in handcuffs, flanked by guards with
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: his defense attorneys present, and in the gallery of the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: court room sat journalists, curious members of the public, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: among them Mary Anne. Because the thirty one year old
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: mother had come to every day of the trial carrying
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the unbearable weight of hearing clinical details about her daughter's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: death and the defenses in furiating arguments, but on this
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: day she was there with a deadly purpose. An unknown
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to court security, mary Anne managed to smuggle a pistol
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: into the courtroom inside her handbag, and it was a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: small Baretta seventy semi automatic, a twenty two caliber weapon,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and how she slipped it past the guards is still unconfirmed,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: though it's likely that in nineteen eighty one, German court
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: security was not as strict as today and handbags were
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: thoroughly checked. But regardless, Marianne sat in the courtroom gallery
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that morning for purse clutched tightly to her body, and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: those around her noticed she was quiet in stoneface, but
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: they assumed it was just her grief, and the session
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: went on until mid morning, when the judge called for
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: a short recess in the proceedings, and this was the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: moment mary Anne had been waiting for her so as
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the room stirred with people standing up to stretch, she
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: calmly stood as well. Then, with determined resolve, mary Anne
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: reached into her purse and drew out the pistol. Before
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: anyone could react, she stepped into the aisle and moved
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: towards the front of the courtroom, and she now stood
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: directly behind the defendant's bench, where Grobowski was seated with
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: his back turned completely unsuspecting, and in an instant, Marianne
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: raised the gun, pointed it at his back, and began
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: firing relentlessly, and the sharp cracks of gunfire echoed in
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the courtroom, she emptied the Beretta's magazine, firing seven or
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: eight shots in total. Reports differ on this, but emptying
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the magazine nonetheless, and chaos just erupted, and onlookers gasped
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and ducked for cover, and Grobowski was hit by several bullets,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: and later reports said six shots struck him all in
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: his back and side, and Grobowski lurched forward from the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: impacts and collapsed on the floor, mortally wounded. He had
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: no chance to even cry out or confront her, and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: his death came quickly, and people were screaming, and lawyers
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and spectators hit under tables and ran for the eggs,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: terrified by the sudden eruption of violence in what was
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a place of law and order. And
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the judge and court officials were in shock just like
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: everyone else. And gun smoke hung in the air of
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: the courtroom, and in the midst of the chaos stood
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: mary Anne, the gun in her hand, and his guards
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: finally reacted and rushed towards her. Marianne lowered her pistol.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: She did not attempt to flee, nor did she resist arrest,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: and in fact, she stood calm and motionless. The rage
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that propelled her seemingly spent, and two police officers cautiously
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: approached and took the weapon from her hand, and she
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: surrendered without a fight, her eyes likely still on Grobowski's
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: lifeless body. And in those first moments after the shooting,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: several witnesses heard mary Anne speak, and according to some accounts,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: she said quote, I wanted to kill him, unquote. As
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: officers led her away, she supposedly added quote, he killed
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: my daughter. I wanted to shoot him in the face,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: but I shot him in the back. I hope he's dead.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Murder is very, very wrong. Murdering a child is extra wrong.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And that's all I'm going to say on that. But anyway,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: some claimed they even heard her call Grabowski a pig
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: under her breath. No notes from me, so these statements
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: removed any ambiguity about Marianne's intent, and Grabowski, bleeding on
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the courtroom floor, was indeed dead or nearly so, and
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: madics could not save him. And in a macabre turn,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the trials for Anna's murder abruptly ended, and the defendant
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: was now Marianne herself, and she had killed a man
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: in front of dozens of witnesses in a court of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: law very bad. Do not recommend that is against the law. Yet,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: as news of what happened spread through Germany, a wave
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of public sympathy flooded toward Marianne. Understandable to many, she
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: was no murderer. She was a mother who did what
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the sisters could not, and the media quickly dubbed her
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the revenge mother, and her act ignited a national conversation
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: about vigil anti justice. But for the moment, however, mary
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Anne was placed under arrest and led away from the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: scene of her vengeance, likely still in shock from what
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: she had done. The courtroom shooting of Klaus Grobowski on
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: March sixth, nineteen eighty one remains one of the most
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: dramatic instances of vigilante action in modern history.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Because it's not.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Often that a victim's family member commits an outright execution
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: in the middle of a trial. An image of mary
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Anne's stepping forward with a gun and delivering her own
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: verdict seared itself into Germany's collective memory. So after the
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: metaphorical and actual smoke cleared in the Lobic courtroom, Maryanne
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: was no longer just a grieving mother. She was now
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a defendant charged with homicide, and her rest made headlines
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: around the world, and many couldn't help but feel a
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: grim satisfaction at what she had done, even as others
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: recoiled that the idea of vigilante killing in a courtroom,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I think it's just natural human instinct to one a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: bad person not to be here anymore. And the idea
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: of a mother taking justice into her own hands, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: that's you know, it's like metal but also very wrong.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: And there's a reason why that's illegal because the world
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: would be a really fucked up place if we were
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: allowed to do that. So, you know, it's human nature,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: but it's also still bad, you know. So that's all
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say about that. You say whatever you
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: want in the comments. Okay, I'm the one making the video.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to say about it, all right.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: But the West Germany media quickly descended on the story, obviously,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: and Marianne's face was on every news broadcast and newspaper,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and her legal consequence is unfolded over the next year
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: and a half, and mary Anne had immense public support
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and donations poured in for her legal defense and in
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: a savvy move, she decided to sell her exclusive story
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: rights to the prominent German magazine Stern, and the magazine
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: reportedly paid her around one hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: which is a very large especially in the eighties, for
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: her personal story, money which she used to cover her
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: attorney fees. And Stern then ran a series of articles
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: that not only recounted Marianne's life and actions, but also
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: painted a sympathetic portrait of her as a hard working
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: single mother pushed to the brick, and the public ate
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it up and letters to the editor came in by
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the thousands, many expressing understanding or outright support for Marianne's act,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and on November two, nineteen eighty two, Marianne was charged
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: in court with murder and her own trial began and
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it was a media circus. TV crews from around the
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: world showed up to cover the case. Public opinion was
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: sharply divided, and this was reflected in the courtroom arguments,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and the prosecution argued that this was a premeditated, cold
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: blooded killing, which technically it was, yes, and they pointed
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: out that Marianne had carefully planned the shooting, even allegedly
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: purchasing the gun well beforehand, and a friend later testified
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: that Marianne had conducted target practice in the cellar of
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: her pub in the weeks after anne It's death, rehearsing
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: for what she intended to do some girls girl like
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the suggested calculation and not just a momentary snap of insanity,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: and Marianne's defense, however, aimed to reduce her culpability, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: they betrayed her mental state as one of temporary insanity
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: or irresistible impulse driven by traumatic grief, which also I agree,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I think it can be both. You know, she might
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: have wanted to and then she might have just had
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the gun, which is illegal. She wasn't supposed to bring
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that in, so you know, we I think, again human nature,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: we want to give her the benefit of the doubt,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: but technically she killed someone. And during her testimony, Marianne
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: claimed that she had dreamt of shooting Grabowski and that
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: on the day of the act, she felt like she
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: was in a trance or dreamlike state. Completely understandable, and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: a court ordered psychiatric evaluation was done to assess her sanity,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and at one point during the investigation, mary Anne was
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: asked to provide a handwriting sample, and in an associative moment,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: she wrote I did it for you Anna on the
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: paper and then surrounded the words with seven little hearts.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: So it's believed that she did one for each.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Year of her daughter's life. This is a heartbreacket.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Story, and this was presented as evidence of her profound
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: emotional disturbance and singular motive of avenging her child. So
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the trial lasted twenty eight days, drawing intense coverage and
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: crowds gathered outside the courthouse daily, and inside debates raged
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: on legal and ethical questions. Was this murder or manslaughter
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: provoked by extreme circumstances?
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Should a grieving.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Mother be treated with leniency or would that signal that
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: vigilante killings are acceptable. It is an extremely tough case.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: The case pitted the cold letter of the law against
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the warm blooded passions of the public, and in the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: end the court found a middle ground and on March second,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, the judges announced their verdict. Mary Anne
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: was convicted of manslaughter instead of murder, and they concluded
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that while she had planned the act so it was
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: premeditated to an extent, her mental state was not entirely
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: in cold blood kind of what I was saying. There
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: was definitely a middle ground, and she was also found
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm. Obviously she brought
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a gun into a courtroom. But Marianne was sentenced to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: six years in prison for the shooting, and the sentence
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: was seen as relatively lenient, given the murder could have
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: meant life imprisonment. But even this punishment was too harsh
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: in the eyes of many supporters, and a survey by
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the Allensbach Institute at the time revealed how conflicted the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: public was, because twenty eight percent of Germans felt six
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: years was an appropriate sentence, and twenty seven percent thought
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it was way too heavy and twenty five thought it
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: was too light. So this is quite evenly split everywhere.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: These split opinions reflected the nation's divide. Some still revered
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: her as a righteous avenger and others believed in upholding
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the rule of law. But in the end, Marianne did
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: not even serve those full six years, and she was
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: given credit for time and custody during trial, and due
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: to good behavior, she became eligible for early release, and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: in June of nineteen eighty five. After serving only three
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: years of her six year sentence, Marianne was released from
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: prison and on probation, and she was thirty five years
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: old and free. Yet her life in Germany was effectively
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: over because a notoriety and just the intense memories made
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it impossible to quietly resume a normal life there. After
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: her release, Marianne sought to escape the media glare and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the ghosts of Luwick, so she decided to move abroad,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and in the late nineteen eighties she actually went to Nigeria,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: in Africa, of all places, and got married there and
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: little is known about her husband or that chapter in
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: her life, but it appears she tried to find peace
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: far away from the scene of her pain, and though
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the marriage didn't last forever, eventually Marianne divorced and moved on,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and by the early nineteen nineties she had relocated to Sicily, Italy,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: and won imagines her perhaps living in a quiet coastal
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: town or a rural village, trying to live anonymously under
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the Mediterranean sun, carrying her heavy memories privately. But fate
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: had one more cruel twist for Marianne, and in the
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: mid nineteen nineties, she was actually diagnosed with pancreatic cancer,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: an aggressive and usually terminal illness, so knowing she didn't
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: have much time left, Marianne decided to return to Germany
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: for her final days, and she went back to Libbeck,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: the very place where her life had been shattered, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: most likely because she wanted to be near her beloved
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: daughter's resting place. In nineteen ninety six, as her condition worsened,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: she asked Lucas Maria Boehmer, a reporter from NDR North
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: German Broadcasting, to document her last weeks, and it was
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: as if she wanted to have the final word on
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: her story in her own way, and on September seventeenth,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Marianne died from her cancer at the age of only
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: forty six, and in accordance with her wishes, she was
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: laid to rest in the same cemetery as her daughter Anna.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: In fact, she was buried right next to Anna's grave,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: so that mother and daughter could symbolically be together again forever.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Marianne's story did not die with her, either, because in
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Germany it remains a potent tale in discussions about visulantism
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: and victim's rights, and the case is often cited in
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: law classes and ethics debates, and forty years on, people
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: still talk about was mary Anne justified? And many still
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: feel a gut level empathy for her. I know, I do,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty one, a German news outlet DR
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: referred to her case as the most spectacular case of
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: vigilante justice in German post war history. It's a case
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: that challenges simple judgment. And on one hand a man
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: was killed in cold blood, but on the other hand
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: that man was a proven child murderer and his killer
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: was the child's grief stricken mother. So culturally, mary Anne
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: became something of a folk figure, and books, documentaries, and
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: films portrayed her story, including the nineteen sixth film The
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Slow Death of Marianne Bachmeyer by the aforementioned Lucas Maria Boemer,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and even a play titled This Is for You Anna
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: debuted in nineteen eighty four. So Marianne Bachmeyer's name became
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a symbol, a caution, and a legend of what can
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: happen when grief and anger collide in a person's soul
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: and the legal system is perceived as inadequate. And that
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: brings us to our last story. Eduardo Gaio was a
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: man who, on the surface, had a successful and comfortable
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: life living in Mexico City. Eduardo was a prosperous management consultant,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and he was well educated and came from a respectable
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: family background. By the late nineteen nineties, Eduardo was in
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: his fifties and had built a good reputation in his
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: community as a smart and determined individual. But what truly
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: defined Eduardo was his role as a father, because his daughter,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Paula Gallo was the apple of his eye. She was
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: born around nineteen seventy five and by the year two
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: thousand she was twenty five years old, and she was,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: by all accounts, an extraordinary young woman. She was dark haired,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: full of life, and kind hearted, with a passion for
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: helping others and singing. And Paula was in her third
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: year of graduate studies pursuing a master's degree in psychoanalysis,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and she often volunteered at orphanages in her spare time.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Just a saint of a woman, and her friends described
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: her as always being surrounded by people, bringing joy wherever
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: she went. And Eduardo was immensely proud of Paula, and
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: as her father, he devoted himself to giving her a
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: good life and education. By all accounts, the father daughter
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: bond was incredibly strong, and Eduardo's work allowed them certain luxuries,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: including a cherished weekend home in type Postline, a picturesque
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: town about thirty five miles south of Mexico City and
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Tepostline is known for its scenic beauty and was a
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: popular getaway for well to do families from the capitol.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: It was the place of cobblestone streets, lush hills, and
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: a sense of tranquility, and for Eduardo and Paula, the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: weekend home was a retreat from the hustle of the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: city life, a spot to relax and spend some quality
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: time together and with friends. So in July of two thousand,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Paula was just finishing her studies and the future was
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: looking very, very bright, and Eduardo might have been contemplating
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a slower pace of life soon, maybe even looking forward
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: to walking Paula down the aisle one day if she married,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: or playing with future grandchildren. They were just ordinary, happy
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: people with plans and dreams, and before tragedy struck, Eduardo's
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: character was one of integrity and determination, for those traits
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: would be put to the ultimate test, so the nightmare
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: would begin. Early July two thousand, so, Paula and a
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: group of her friends had gone to that family's weekend
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: house for a little getaway, and it was supposed to
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: be a relaxing time. The group of friends lounged around
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the property, enjoying music and conversation in the warm night air,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: feeling perfectly safe within the walled confines of the Gayo
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: vacation home. But suddenly their peace was shattered, and as
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: dusk settled, a group of armed men jumped over the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: fence of the property and burst into the house, and
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the intruders terrorized Paula and her friends for two full hours.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: They brandished guns, barking orders and threats, and the friends
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: were likely tied up or held at gunpoint, utterly helpless,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: and the kidnappers ransacked the house, grabbing jewelry, clothing, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: any valuables they could find. But theft was not their
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: main goal, because by the end of that ordeal, the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: armed manda dragged Paula away, forcing her into the two
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: cars they also stole from the property to use as
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: getaway vehicles, and in a span of hours, Eduardo Gio's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: cherished daughter had gone from enjoying a weekend with friends
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: to being a kidnap victim, thrust into.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: The clutches of criminals, and.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: The armed gang vanished into the night, with Paula leaving
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: behind to traumatized witnesses and a scene of chaos. And
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: for the kidnappers in Mexico, the next step was routine
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: a ransom demand, and sure enough, not long after, Edwardo
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: was contacted by the kidnappers and they demanded money in
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: exchange for powerless safe return. And it's hard to even
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: imagine how Edwardo was feeling in this moment, just absolute
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: dread and panic and just focused on getting his daughter back.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: And kidnapping was and.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately still is, a notorious criminal enterprise in Mexico, often
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: motivated by money. So Eduardo would have known that the
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: sooner he paid, the sooner Paula might be released, and
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: the longer things dragged on, the greater danger to her.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: So the ransom was set at eighteen five hundred dollars
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: USD in cash, plus some expensive jewelry, and Eduardo scrambled
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: to put this together, and although relatively well off, he
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: didn't have unlimited resources, but he liquidated what he could quickly,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: because time was of the essence, and he managed to
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: gather the sum the kidnappers asked for, just demonstrating a
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: parent's willingness to sacrifice everything for their child. So a
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: meeting was arranged to exchange money for Paula, and the
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: details of the drop were likely dictated by the kidnappers
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: a remote location a certain time of night. Eduardo followed
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: their instructions to the letter, desperate not to provoke them
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: to harm Paula, and on the appointed night, the ransom
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: was delivered to a spot outside of the city, and
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: what happened next is somewhat shrouded in confusion and controversy,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and a violent confrontation broke out at the ransom drop
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: point and gunfire erupted from some unknown party, and when
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the shooting stopped, three of the kidnappers lay dead, and
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: the ransom exchange had turned into a bloodbath, and the kidnappers,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: paranoid and on edge, believed that they had been ambushed
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: by law enforcement, but in reality it's unclear who fired
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: on them, but in any case, the result was devastating.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: The surviving kidnappers, thinking Eduardo set them up, took revenge
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: on Paula and they would murder her. And for an
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: agonizing week after the kidnapping, Eduardo clung to hope that
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: paying the ransom would bring Paula home. But then Paula's
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: body was found, and she had been twice, once in
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the neck and once in the back, just a cruel execution,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and her body was discovered not far from the location
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: where the bodies of the three dead kidnappers had been found.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: A few days earlier.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: As it seemed the gang, enraged by the deaths of
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: their comrades, had taken Paula's life in retaliation and dumped
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: her like trash. And when the news reached Eduardo, his
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: world collapsed because despite doing everything asked of him, the
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: system had failed utterly to protect his child. In fact,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: it seemed the system's incompetence might have directly led to
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: her death, and Morella's state officials leaked stories to the
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: media that implied ed Wardo himself had arranged an armed
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: rescue that caused the bloodbath, suggesting that the blame might
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: lie with him, But this was completely untrue because a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: father like Eduardo would never risk his child's life in
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: that way, and it only added insult to injury, and
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Eduardo suspected instead it was the police who might have
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: secretly tried to intercept the kidnappers, resulting in the shootout
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: that killed some and sealed Paula's fate. And his suspicions
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: gained credence when roughly two thirds of the ransom money
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: was later found near the bodies of the dead kidnappers
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: and returned to him, but the rest had vanished.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: So if an.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Outside group killed those kidnappers and took some money, it
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: pointed toward either a rogue police operation or criminal competitors.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: So here was Eduardo Gio, a father who had lost
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: his only daughter in the most horrific way, and grief
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: overwhelmed him, but also something else, anger and a drive
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: for answers, because he wanted to know exactly who killed
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: his Paula and to see them held accountable. And initially
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: he put a faith into the authorities to solve the case,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and police did catch a few suspects early on. Three
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: men were quickly arrested right after Paula's death and were
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: awaiting trial, but these were likely lower level accomplices or
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: people tied to the dead kidnappers, and the actual gunmen
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: who had actually pulled the trigger on Palla was not
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: among them. Matman had fled and remained at large, And
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: weeks turned into months and the official investigations stalled, and
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Eduardo just grew increasingly frustrated, and it soon became apparent
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: that the Morellos State Police investigation was a mess, to
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: say the least, just riddled with errors and apparent corruption,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: as he later described, and he started discovering shocking lapses.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: For instance, when one of the cars stolen during the
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: kidnapping recovered a few months later, the police refused to
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: perform forensic tests on it, and one officer absurdly said
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: it was because it was raining. The fuck. Water doesn't
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: just wash stuff away. Who are these people? So Eduardo
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: had to push the issue up the chain of command
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: to get the car examined, and when they finally did,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: they found strands of Paula's hair inside, confirming it was
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: used to transport her. But why hadn't they done it immediately?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: And it just got worse is Paula's clothing from the
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: day of the kidnapping disappeared while in police custody, meaning
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: crucial evidence was lost and no fingerprints were taken at
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: the crime scene, in the house after the kidnapping, and
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: in a damning twist, Eduardo himself, by pure chance, found
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: items stolen from his home sitting in a police storeroom,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: never returned and possibly being stolen by the officers. So
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: these revelations led Eduardo to believe what many suspect, and
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: that is that some of the police were either corrupt
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: or grossly negligent, both extremely bad. Maybe they were colluding
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: with kidnappers, which wasn't unheard of, especially in Mexico at
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: this point, or they just didn't care enough to do
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: that their jobs right again, both terrible and Eduardo's grief
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: was compounded by outrage. Understandably, it was as if the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: system was letting Paula be murdered twice, once by the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: kidnappers and again by burying the truth of what happened.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: And in an emotional letter he published in the newspaper,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: he laminated, quote, what a shame that it had to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: be me, a neophyte in criminal investigation, who had to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: carry out the investigation, and that the state Attorney General's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: office of Morellus limited itself to evaluating and checking the
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  Speaker 1: validity of my discoveries unquote. This was a public slap
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: to the authorities. It was a mic drop moment for Eduardo,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: because Eduardo was saying, I'm doing your job for you,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: and you suck at your job. And he tried the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: official channels first, he filed complaints, he met with the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: police chiefs. He wrote that open letter in the press
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: describing his odyssey and even eulogizing Paula in the same breath,
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  Speaker 1: and he wrote, I wrote to his daughter, quote, thank
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: you for your smile. You always lighted the path so
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I could distinguish between justice and vengeance. Keeping my hands
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: clean and my soul calm the only way I can
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: see you again unquote.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, rip my heart out, my lord.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: And these words show that Eduardo, at least at the moment,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: was striving to remain on the side of justice, not
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: slip into pure revenge. He wanted to do things the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: right way if possible. For a year after Paula's death,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Eduardo hovered in this agonizing limbo. He would go every
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: day to his daughter's grave, promising her silently that he
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: wouldn't rest until he found her killer. Meanwhile, he hammered
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: on the doors of bureaucracy for action, and eventually a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: stroke of luck came and in October of two thousand,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Morella State elected a new governor from an opposition party,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: ending seventy one years of one party rule, which its crinsic.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: So this shakeup led to new leadership in law enforcement,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: and the new state police chief, Jose Montiel, took a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: personal interest in Gaio's case, and he noted that kidnappings
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and morellos were rampant and often mishandled, and in one
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: notorious scandal, the former anti kidnapping unit chief had himself
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: been arrested for kidnapping and murder.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: What is happening in message? Are you guys okay?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Is anybody for Mexico? Are you okay? So Montiel understood
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the rot that needed cutting out. So with Montiel's support,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Eduardo suddenly found police more receptive. They began to work
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: with him as a partner rather than an annoyance. But
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: truth be told, Edwardo was already doing the heavy lifting.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: So by this time Eduardo Gio had effectively transformed himself into.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: A private detective.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: And his career and his personal life were on hold.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: And every morning he woke up with one mission find
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: the man who killed Paula, and his days were spent
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: chasing leeds, analyzing phone records, interviewing locals, and tasks to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: done by detectives. And he even ventured into potential dangerous
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: slums and villages where few city elites would dare to go.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: And it said that Eduardo actually disguised himself as a
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: traveling second hand clothed salesman so he can move around
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: these areas without arousing suspicion. And he painstakingly pieced together
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a network of criminals involved, and he knew from police
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: that some suspects were still out there, and notably Francisco
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: El Gato Zamora Areano and he was believed to be
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the triggerman and a couple of others in the gang.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: So Eduardo combed through cellular phone records tied to the case,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: mapping out who contacted whom around the time of the kidnapping,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: and this led him step by step to identifying the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: likely hideouts. And the breakthrough came when Eduardo noticed a
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: pattern in the phone data because one of the kidnappers
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: had been regularly using a public payphone in a small
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: town of tool Teitlin in the neighboring state of Mexico,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: just north of Mexico City, and this payphone was a lifeline,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: so the kidnapper used it to call other gang members,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: likely to avoid tracking on his own phone. And after
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: some leg work, Eduardo found that very payphone with this guy,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: it's like a movie. He's like Liam Neeson from taking
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: and he deduced that if he watched it, the culprit
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: might return to use it again, like he was doing
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: the leg arm head body work for this entire case. So,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: armed with this crucial find, Eduardo coordinated with Morello's police
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: and also wrote in authorities from the state of Mexico.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: So on Sunday in June of two thousand and one,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: nearly a year after Paula's death, they set a trap
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: and Eduardo himself took position as one of the lookouts
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: near the payphone, along with playing clothes officers staked out
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: in the surrounding building. So they waited, tense and hopeful,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: and their patients paid off and a man approached the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: payphone and began dialing. So the watchers signaled each other
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: and in a coordinated move, police unit swarmed in and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: surrounded the suspect, and he was taken down before he
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: could flee and draw a weapon, and they had caught
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: twenty eight year old Francisco Zamuro Ariano, who indeed the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: gang member Eduardo had been hunting. And Ariano was from
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: a poor rule part of Guerrero's state and he had
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: been hiding out, perhaps thinking the heat had died down
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: at this point, so in custody, confronted with evidence and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: perhaps seeing no escape, he confessed the very next day
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: to being the one who shot and killed Paula Dio.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: And this confession was a huge victory for Eduardo. He
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: had literally hunted down his daughter's murderer through sheer will
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and investigative brit But Eduardo didn't stop there, and with
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Ariano's capture, the rest of the kidnapping ring unraveled and police,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: with Eduardo's intel, arrested several other accomplices individuals named Alcelmo
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Hernandez Benitez and Antonio Barragan Carrasco, Infania Tovar Garcia and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Maria Luisa Zamora Ariano, and they were charged with crimes
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: ranging from kidnapping and aggravated murder to robbery and criminal association.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: So it was a broad sweep that effectively dismantled the
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: group responsible for Paula's tragedy, and eventually Francisco Zamora Ariano
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: and his co conspirators were convicted in court and they
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: received hefty sentences forty years in prison for Francisco and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: the others, according to reports. So at long last, the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: people who had destroyed Eduardo's family were behind bars, and
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: it was largely thanks to Eduardo Guaio's refusal to give
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: up or trust the system to work without him, and
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: the Murla's police chief, Montiel openly credited Eduardos, saying, quote,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: this man with much bravery, put aside all his own
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: business and carried out the investigation unquote shout out to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the new police chief man the incredible, absolutely incredible, and Eduardo,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: my goodness. So the authorities admitted that without Eduardo the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: case might never have been solved. And for Eduardo this
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: outcome was bittersweet. He had achieved justice in the sense
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: that Paula's killers were punished, but the personal cost was immense.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: He had lost his.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Daughter, the light of his life, and he had spent
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: a year in constant danger because at any time those
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: he was pursuing could have targeted him for retaliation, and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: he had sacrificed his career and perhaps even his health.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Stress likely took an immense toll on him in the process,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Yet when asked about it, Eduardo expressed no regret for
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: stepping up. If anything, he became somewhat of a folk
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: hero among crime victims in Mexico, demonstrating that persistence can
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: overcome even a corrupt system.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: So the tragedy of.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Paulo's murder transformed Eduardo forever, and it ignited within him
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: a new purpose beyond just this case. And it's also
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: important to note that Eduardo's form of vigilante justice was
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: different from Vitally and Mary Anne because he did not
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: kill anyone with his own hands, and said he took
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the law into his own hands by performing the work
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: of the law enforcement, albeit ending with criminals being legally
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: arrested and tried. So Eduardo's revenge was ensuring the killers
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: were caught and made to face justice, rather than personally
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: executing them, and in doing so, he walked a fine line.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: He cooperated with police, stayed within some bounds of the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: law even as he operated independently. So his story is
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: a unique vigilante tale where the vigilante sought not blood
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: but truth and accountability, and he had the ability to
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: do so. You know, a though these cases are all
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: just absolutely heartbreaking, and you know, you can't understand to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: a certain degree why they did what they did, but
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I just thought I'd end it on this case where
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: just this saint of a man lost his saint of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: a daughter and he took justice into his own hand
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: and he was able to bring these horrible monsters to justice.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: It's just a it's a heartbreaking but beautiful story all
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the same. And in the immediate aftermath of capturing his
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: daughter's killers, Eduardo's story became a beacon of hope and
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: a lightning rod for debate in Mexico because the public
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: learned of how this grieving father tenaciously tracked down criminals
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: when the authorities failed, and many people saw Eduardo as
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: a heroic figure, an ordinary man who overcame a broken
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: system to get justice. And the Morella's police chief, Montielle,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: held up the case as an important example for other victims,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: demonstrating that perseverance can crack even the toughest cases. And
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: in a country plagued by kidnappings and often inept or
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: corrupt police responses. Eduardo's success was inspiring, and in Mexico,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: victim advocacy and anti crime movements were gaining momentum in
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and Eduardo quickly became a prominent
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: voice among them. He actually became the president of civic
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: organization called Mexico United against Crime, a non governmental group
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: focused on combating crime and pushing for public security reforms.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: So his transformation from businessman to social activists was a
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: direct result of his personal tragedy, and Eduardo realized that
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: he was not alone. Hundreds of families suffered from similar kidnappings, murders,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: and miscarriages of justice. So with his newfound public platform,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: he started advocating to fix the very system.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: That had failed him.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: And Eduardo's work with Mexico United against Crime involved campaigning
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: for better laws, police accountability, and support for victims, and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: he became a recognizable figure in media, often speaking out
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: whenever a high profile crime case showed signs of foul
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: play or injustice, and one major case he actually got
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: involved in was the infamous Florence Causes affair, where a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: frenchwoman was accused of running a kidnapping ring in Mexico,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: and Eduardo publicly criticized another activist, Isabelle Miranda Wallace form
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: manipulating public opinion in that case quote, there's nothing more
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: important than justice and pointing out irregularities in the evidence,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: and a stance just showed that his commitment was to
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: truth and fairness, not vengeance, and he didn't automatically side
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: with victims if the evidence was shaky. He wanted the
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: right people punished. However, Eduardo's vigilante turned activistjourney was not
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: without controversy, and in the years that followed, certain troubling
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: allegations emerged regarding exactly how some of Poulla's kidnappers were caught,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Notably Antonio, one of the convicted, claimed that they were
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: tortured by individuals acting on Eduardo's and in a public interview,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Antonio claimed that he was innocent and that he was
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: brutally inncoerced into confessing that he had killed Paulo's kidnappers,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: and he specifically named Eduardo Gaio as a complicit in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: the torture process. But such claims, however, remained unverified in
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: independent and legal records, and yes, these claims do has
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: to shadow in the minds of some this did Eduardo's
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: sanction or participate in extra judicial actions beyond just detective work,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: And according to a detailed investigation by Los Angeles Press,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Eduardo may have worked with a special police task force
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: under a controversial security name Genaro Garcia Luna, and was
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: present during an operation where six suspects were executed without
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: due process in two thousand and one, and Eduardo with
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: this group, if true, suggests that Eduardo's pursuit of justice
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: might have crossed into visual anti violence off the record,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: but Eduardo has denied any wrongdoing, maintaining that while he
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: did have government support, he did not commit torture or
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: illegal acts, and he acknowledges pushing the envelope to find
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: police killers. But he insists everything he did was aimed
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: at getting evidence and handing suspects to authorities. So it's
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: possible some police used excessive force while Eduardo turned a
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: blind eye, or that suspects just pinned the blame on
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: him to undermine the case. But what it does highlight
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: is the complex moral territory he navigated. Is when the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: system fails and one entangles with less than scrupulous law
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: enforcement to achieve justice, lines can blur, and Eduardo himself
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: once said quote, the most effective form of corruption is
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: the incorrect or incomplete formulation of the case. If they
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: don't pull together all the facts, the charge remains weak
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: and the case collapses. So in his desperation to avoid
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: that outcome, perhaps corners were cut, but we do not
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: know for sure. And despite these controversies, public support for
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Eduardo Geio remains strong.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: In Mexico.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: He was seen as a man who had been through
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: hell and emerged fighting not just for his own daughter,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: but for all victims of crime, and in two thousand
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: and eight, Mexico faced an epidemic of kidnapping and rising violence,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and mass protests took place, demanding action, and Eduardo was
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: at the forefront of these movements, often meeting with officials
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: and even presidents to act advocate for policy changes. And
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: as of the mid twenty tens, Eduardo stepped back from
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: the limelight somewhat and he has resigned from Mexico United
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: against Crime and retired from public life, with little heard
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: about him in recent years. But at the end of
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: the day, if not for Eduardo, a dangerous killer or
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: killers might still be free. But on the other hand,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: it also raises caution vigilante efforts, even well intentioned conspiral
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: beyond the law, as suggested by the torture claims, and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Eduardo's case fueled arguments both for and against vigilantism in
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: public discourse today. Eduardo Gaio is in his early seventies
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: and his name still evokes respect among many Mexicans who
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: remember the early two thousands crime wave. But Eduardo Geo's
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: story tells us that vigilante justice isn't always about pulling
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: a trigger. Sometimes it's about doing the job others won't
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: do at great personal cost, and his whole saga leads
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: us to ponder, what would we do if the police
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: and system meant to protect us utterly failed our family.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Could we summon the courage, resourcefulness, and yes, the righteous
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: anger to fight back like he did. I don't know,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: it's a whole moral question. I don't even know how
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: to answer, and I just feel for these people so much.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: But we can definitely have a conversation down below in
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: the comments. But that is it for today's video. If
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: you want me to deep dive into any other stories,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: let me know down below. Or even have a theme
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: like this one a visual ante justice. Let me know
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: down below I always read the comments and until then,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: stay safe and that I will see you beautiful face
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: in the next episode.
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  Speaker 2: Right bye.