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George Webb: Clintons Run an Illegal Arms Trade in Ukraine & We Have PROOF · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So the Ukraine war is still happening. I know that there's a lot of things happening and we tend to forget these things but still the conversations that we were having a year, year and a half, two years ago about what's happening over there are still relevant today, especially with all the money leaving Congress going over there. But as we hone in on the indictment of Hunter Biden, the potential impeachment inquiries with Biden himself, it's important to understand their role in Ukraine, how that ties into the Obamas, how it ties into the Clintons, and much more.
• 0:43
  And so joining us today from on being on the road out doing some investigations is investigative journalist George Webb. And so what he is gonna be talking today about today, which is quite interesting, is actual physical evidence that he has of encrypted communications using BlackBerry's really as the secret way that these criminal syndicates have been communicating. This is actually key to moving forward and bringing down these criminal syndicates. But what he's been talking about is Ukraine, specifically the role of Ukraine in weapons. So we're talking about a lot of the weapons technology, nuclear, biological, etcetera, that came out of the Soviet Union ended up into Ukraine and how the Clinton Foundation and the Bidens and other different people like that and organizations were involved in the transfer, the sale, the laundering of moving these significant weapons all over the world using Ukraine as a hub, and why that becomes central to the role of our involvement with what's happening in Ukraine, both militarily, but also financially sending billions of dollars over there.
• 1:53
  So I think this is gonna actually provide a lot of important perspective of what's actually happening in Ukraine. So when we see our politicians up there sending all this money over to Ukraine, and I'm talking from both sides of the aisle, it's important to understand the geopolitical role that Ukraine plays, especially from the perspective of the global crime syndicates, aka the cabal. So folks, please enjoy this interview with investigative journalist George Webb. George, it is great to have you on the show. You're one of the most requested guests whenever I've asked people who interview, and I consistently say, you gotta bring on George Webb.
• 2:31
  He's brilliant investigative journalist. And so here we are.
• 2:37
  George Webb: Well, Seth, it's a pleasure. You know, I I love guys from Ohio. I'm from Cleveland. You're from Columbus. And I'm in Lima today.
• 2:45
  We were in Columbus at Battelle. I understand your family had Battelle folks. So we try to go where the story is so I don't have to remember all the who, what, when, where, how and why we get the what and the where out of the way. You know what I mean? But I was in Washington on Friday.
• 3:04
  I delivered the encrypted communication evidence to Mr. Comer, the oversight committee, that the Bidens had engaged in encrypted communication. And this goes all the way back to the energy deals of Ukraine and China, the CRG or the CFC deals, the CNG deals, the uranium. And then, of course, we have all the Ukraine energy deals with Burisma. Hunter is also on the pipeline in Romania.
• 3:34
  He's over with Bobulinski with the BlackBerrys in Monaco doing deals. And the reason why the encrypted communication in the BlackBerrys are important is it geo locates where he is and where Joe Biden is and where James Biden is and where all the other people in network are. And then we can get to the server. Once we get to the server, we think we already got to the server, but these things can be subpoenaed. And then we get the whole network, hopefully.
• 4:01
  So that's the strategy with Mr. Comer. And I'm working with the communications director out of his office. That's him. Mr.
• 4:12
  Austin is the person I'm working with. So hopefully this will get some airplay that we're not just This isn't about Hunter and the laptops and looking at him with the crack pipe and the prostitutes. This isn't about a smear campaign. This is about espionage and using the office of the president, truly a high crime, raising the bar again from impeachment away from smears to real high crimes. So that's kind of the stories I'm working on today.
• 4:44
  Seth Holehouse: And so when you mentioned okay. The obviously, if a politician, let alone a president and his son are using encrypted technology so they can communicate in ways I mean, you take Hillary's emails being on a private server. I mean, this is kind of the next level of your private encrypted communication. Right? So how did you so you said you just submitted this evidence to Comer.
• 5:06
  Right? How how did you get this evidence, and what does this evidence tell us?
• 5:14
  George Webb: Well, I started, I was in technology. I worked for a company called Network Associates. We bought the privacy software called PGP, Pretty Good Privacy in February. We bought the company from the old cyber hackers of Moscow, a company called Dmitry Alparovich. Dmitry's company came to our place in Santa Clara, California.
• 5:39
  He ported the PGP software, the encryption technology. CIA paid for it. A gal named Sue Gordon with In Q Tel paid for the port to the device. The reason why they decided to port to the Blackberry was because they had the Alpha keyboard. The State Department picked it up and that's why Biden and Hillary and Tony Blanken and Jake Sullivan now, all of them, Victoria Newland, they all have these BlackBerrys, Philippe Ryanis, all the folks in the State Department.
• 6:10
  And so it's really how I knew the technology that was being used. But what I saw in 2016, I was in high-tech and I didn't really want to be a reporter. Made a lot more money not being a reporter. But I saw Dmitryl Perovich. He was the guy at CrowdStrike who was looking into the hack of the 33,000 emails.
• 6:36
  I said, this is the biggest wolf with the blood all over his face. He's supposed to be the guy who's investigating who got into the chicken coop. And I knew right then when we brought Dimitri over, I quit the company because he was not just writing antivirus software like he should have been. He was writing viruses that would explode the next quarter so that Bill Larson, the CEO of the company, could sell more antivirus software. So I knew he was crooked.
• 7:04
  His father ran cyber hacking for KGB. So he was bringing over these tools and giving them to the FBI, counterintelligence. Later we found out that was Peter Strzok, and they're creating all this havoc and putting these people and infiltrating them into all parts of our government, this deep state. So I'm like, woah, woah. That's when I decided That was my red pill moment.
• 7:27
  That's when I decided to come to Washington, DC and start asking for whistleblowers. One came forward, a forty year Well, he said four decades, but he had been on Capitol Hill. He worked with the Bidens. In May of twenty seventeen, he gave me this Blackberry and said, The Bidens used this encrypted communication. So it wasn't me guessing or anything.
• 7:50
  And there was also aspiring in Congress, believe it or not, that had been outed. I went to all 20 houses that these people had and so forth. I finally found their BlackBerrys, also state department government markings. So there's no guesswork here, two fact witnesses. Plus we have the physical evidence with the Senate markings, which Senate Sergeant of Arms.
• 8:14
  So that's the encrypted BlackBerrys. And it also has the Telltale serial number 327360. So these, I've been talking about them since May of twenty seventeen, but we didn't really have the corroboration until Tony Bobulinski, the business partner of Hunter Biden, came out and showed them in the 2020 campaign. I think it was in Cleveland, I think, when they had the second debate or maybe it was the first debate. So all I'm saying is rather than going to the laptops and showing these crack pipe and prostitute pictures, let's go to the stuff that actually did the deals.
• 8:56
  Let's go to the stuff that actually did the Ukraine deals, that did the Ukraine energy deals and did the China energy deals. This person, this longtime Biden person, he said four decades, he said that's what happened. Hillary Clinton, he said, is responsible for these things, these flips like Libya, Syria, Sudan, Yemen. We didn't do any of that. We just did energy deals.
• 9:23
  We're clean. These same BlackBerrys were also used for the Iran nuclear deal. If you remember, the Senate was trying to negotiate that and they didn't have the votes, so they just dropped it. So that's the background of this. This is fair dinkum.
• 9:37
  This is the real deal. And all we want James Comer to do is subpoena these things because that'll have the record of the to and from and what were you doing on the pipeline in Romania? What were you doing at the uranium bank in Kazakhstan? Originally, when I started this seven years ago, we said that the Clinton Foundation was brokering all the old takings or winnings, if you will, from the old Soviet Union, the nukes, the bios and the and regular arms like AK-47s and ammunition and just storing it in Ukraine and then brokering it out to do their mischief and covert actions as they saw fit. And where this really gets serious, it's not so much brokering the AK-47s.
• 10:23
  When you start doing this with nukes, that gets dangerous. But it's even more dangerous when it's an asymmetric thing like anthrax or something like that, a bio. Now you can create a hostage situation, a blackmailing situation for a terrorist group and so forth. And we know that the Clinton Foundation is doing this. It's not like we're guessing.
• 10:42
  We now have the evidence that Hunter Biden was doing these deals for the uranium, for instance, with China nuclear group, and he was doing these deals potentially for the bios. And that's what we really wanna get to the bottom of. That's why we're at Patel this morning.
• 10:56
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
• 11:11
  Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
• 11:28
  So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means.
• 11:42
  Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today.
• 12:08
  What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
• 12:30
  It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
• 13:10
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• 13:22
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• 14:03
  Incredible. And so Battelle, for folks that aren't aware of what it is, you know, for me growing up in Ohio, Battelle, I had an uncle that worked there, and I have a stepfather that worked there. It was just this really prestigious research firm. They had lot of government contracts. But now that I've understood the reality of what this means, it's almost like a Lockheed Martin or a Boeing where they're dealing in these big military industrial complex, you know, black budget, a lot of research in multiple because there's multiple Battelle locations even in Ohio that are dangerous.
• 14:35
  They've got they're they're doing all kinds of testing and working with bioweapons and everything. So if I'm correct, I'm kind of piecing this together. Obviously, the Soviet Union had a massive armament of all kinds of weapons that, you know, whether it was nuclear weapons, missiles, but also probably all kinds of research, biological weapons, etcetera, in labs. And so what you're saying is that the evidence that you've come across shows that basically that the the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation was in using Ukraine as a hub to purchase to procure these weapons, which are I'm sure many of them being illegal by international standards. These weapons are being purchased through Ukraine and then brokered to the black market around the world.
• 15:26
  So that that's what your evidence is showing.
• 15:29
  George Webb: Not even a purchase because at that time, Ukraine, when Mark Rich was the guy going there, we actually have somebody who was at the hotel where Mark Rich was, where these things were being sold off. Ukraine was still part of the Soviet Union, So they were just being moved and positioned. Now there's some bioweapons that are still in place in Kazakhstan, Sverdras and I can't remember all the different cities. Most of the nuclear stuff's in Ukraine. There's a lot of bio stuff in Kazakhstan.
• 16:02
  And we've run this down to the runners, down to the runner level for these Ukrainian oligarchs, these criminal oligarchs like Igor Kolomovsky. He owns half of Cleveland, by the way, and buying up more and more real estate in The United States to launder their money. But we've run it down to actually Fruman and Parnass, their actual IP numbers, their IP numbers and their top secret clearance at the US Spectrum Center in Columbus, the Defense Supply Center, DSC in Columbus, the DSCC. We were there this morning. And then they also had top secret clearance as an FBI DIA informant at the one hundred eleven Intelligence Brigade in Fort Huachuca.
• 16:42
  That's Mike Flynn's old intelligence before he became the head of DIA. And then also Space and Missile Defense Command in Huntsville, Alabama. We've run down their IP addresses at the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission in Maryland. So none of this is speculation. We publish the IP addresses.
• 17:06
  We have the receipts. We just need somebody at communications director, Austin there, or James Comer to say, we're going to subpoena these things. We now have a smoking gun with the indictments of Hunter Biden on the tax crimes in California, we now have a smoking gun. We know that there's been malfeasance. Now his reticence or recalcitrance of not testifying and defying an order from the committee, from the impeachment exploration committee, inquiry committee.
• 17:37
  Now we have the smoking gun to say, we're going to subpoena everything. And these are the key devices. It's not A laptop was for the sanitized, I'm going to go see Santa Claus today meeting, you know, cover stories. The real juice is on these BlackBerrys.
• 17:56
  Seth Holehouse: And so taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture, especially how this all relates to Ukraine, what we've witnessed over the past couple of years is our government sending billions and billions and billions of dollars to Ukraine. We know that FDX was being used to launder some money back to the politicians, but that seems to be where the the more mainstream story stopped is okay. They're they're funneling money through Ukraine. It's probably being laundered somewhere. But what this does is paints a much more important picture as to perhaps why Biden keeps sending money over there.
• 18:29
  Why a lot of our politicians that even we that we thought we could trust are sending massive amounts of money over to Ukraine. So how does okay. The fact that as you've talked about that Ukraine became a central hub for the, basically, for the movement of these biological weapons, mess weapons of mass destruction, etcetera. How do you fit in our government sending such massive amounts of money over to Ukraine into that narrative? Are are they related?
• 19:01
  Are they linked?
• 19:03
  George Webb: Well, they're linked through the the criminal network. Through the criminal network is a guy named Igor Kolomowiczky. We've been tracking a guy named Eric Braverman, who was the head of the Clinton Foundation. The Clinton Foundation had five different legs to it. The key one that Braverman was being sequestered from and plastered from was a Clinton global initiative where David Petraeus and Kissinger and so forth, they were doing their arms deals over here through the Clinton Foundation.
• 19:32
  The other four foundations, the Health Foundation, the CHI and so forth, were doing different things. So Braveman is kind of like, Hey, this is great. I'm the head of the Clinton Foundation. And then all of a sudden, after the first year, he has the four clean NGOs, half clean, half not. Chai pushes the HIV vaccines and so forth.
• 19:55
  Clean compared to the CGI, which was the brokering of the old Russian weapons. Then they introduced this to him and he was like, oh, well, I'm not citing these financial statements. You're saying $10,000,000,000 is coming from an unknown source. That's not how you do accounting for a charity. And that's when Braveman left.
• 20:18
  And kind of that's how I started my series in 2016. And turns out he was meeting with this guy named Kolomoisky. This guy named Kolomoisky in Ukraine is still partners with Zelensky's father, Zelensky's father in a petroleum venture in in Ukraine. He owns the television station one plus one. He owns the broadband.
• 20:41
  You know, he owns the, Ukraine top airline. So he's sort of like a Banana Republic Oligarch where he has all the major industries. And he's getting these billions even before the war when they did the CIA flip in 2014, he was getting billions from USAID, which was a CIA front, 5,000,000,000 at a time. He was getting tranches of 10 to 12,000,000,000 from IMF as sort of an under the table way of flipping Ukraine. The play is for this, the Donbas, the Legansk, and the Donetsk is so rich in cobalt, so rich in titanium, rich potentially in oil and gas fines that's in the Black Sea.
• 21:29
  So there's a huge play here just in energy and minerals in Ukraine. So that's where the Bidens are involved. But then there's a whole nother set of stuff that precedes the Bidens. The Bidens is really a short period of time between like 2014 and 2016. But these things go all the way back to Arab Spring, twenty eleven with the oil fields for Royal Dutch Shell in Libya.
• 21:58
  Syria, they wanted to do the trans Syrian pipeline. Now it looks like that's going to go through Israel. So there's a long history here to these things. That's why they seem to be, Seth, they're trying to wall this off. They're trying to say, It's just Hunter.
• 22:11
  It's just the crack pipe, it's just the prostitutes. We don't want to bring these blackberries in because that opens up a can of worms. And this is what we thought the 33,000 emails were or however many there were with Hillary Clinton. It's the history of this covert dealings that they're hiding, and always have been trying to hide. And and we're we're we're going for that server, man.
• 22:35
  We want that server. We don't want just the BlackBerrys. We want the BlackBerrys that connected to that server.
• 22:42
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching, listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person?
• 22:55
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• 23:08
  Thank you so much. So it's almost as if the laptop and all these pictures that we constantly see going viral with new memes of Hunter dancing in underwear with a scarf or smoking a crack pipe, that's a giant red herring. And if and if they can get if it's actually as much as people want to expose what was on a laptop, and it seemed like there was this resistance, especially going into twenty twenty election of that, That's what they would prefer everyone to focus on is Hunter Biden smoking crack with prostitutes versus actually making the connections that show that it's not just a crime or an illegal handgun, you know, purchase or that. We're talking we're talking it's the connection to global crime syndicates, which, you know, even saying it's crimes against humanity barely even touches what these crime syndicates are doing. They're buying governments.
• 24:06
  They're flipping governments. They're moving weapons of mass destruction. They're funding terrorists. They're funding the destruction of America. This is that's mean, talk about a smoking gun.
• 24:16
  That's like that's like a smoking atom bomb to make those connections. Right?
• 24:20
  George Webb: Yeah. I mean, you're you're exactly on the money. You know Les Wexner. You know New Albany. You're Columbus kid.
• 24:27
  You know how Les Wexner moved in there with the mega group, you know the sponsorship that he had from the province, you know the tutelage he had from Max Fisher up in Detroit. That's where we're going next. You know that this is a mega group operation. Jeff Epstein was answering the phone on one ring at Rickenbacker Airport. He was flying guns and weapons for all these flips.
• 24:48
  Kolomoisky was his arms merchant. They were flying these supposed mujahideen from country to country to country that they wanted to flip. So so that's the operation here. The Humpty Dumpty Society, which was Mark Epstein, the brother of Jeff Epstein in the Congress, was taking bets, was doing the wagering for the pump and dumps, for the flipping of the countries, for the black swan events. So all this is the whole dealio.
• 25:16
  We're going right for the brain, the central nervous system of this thing, the caudex. There's even a little cutout by Columbus Airport called the caudex where we felt that the sort of Mossad operation was happening. That remains to be seen if that's true or not. But you're from Columbus. You know how Les Wexner and he's got the Les Wexner Cancer Center at Ohio State.
• 25:43
  And then Peter Strzok was there with Lisa Page. And they had all the top secret passwords and top secret clearances that come along with Patel. And most of the people, I mean, I know so many people work at Patel. They're the best people in the world, etcetera. They're working on a lot of different things.
• 26:03
  But anthrax, it's called Project Jefferson. You know it's over there on West Jefferson. It's also called Project Clear Vision, which is the big anthrax thing. The largest tanks in the world. And the only place that you can weaponize anthrax by drying it.
• 26:19
  Right? There's no dryers up at Fort Detrick. This is where it's weaponized are there. The bunkers, the four bunkers that could withstand nuclear, you know, attack. This is what we're talking about.
• 26:31
  I This is big time. Yeah.
• 26:33
  Seth Holehouse: I grew up probably ten minutes from that West Jefferson plant. Literally. Yeah. My my stepdad spent probably thirty years working out of that West West Jefferson plant. You know, we're we're doing all this biological testing, and which new most of, you know, most people don't know that.
• 26:50
  You know, you'd think you'd think Patel, oh, they're doing great things for the government. They're developing new technologies, and actually, they're developing ways to destroy humans and depopulate the earth, and it's just it's incredible. So you're it's interesting having this conversation because I think that sometimes the you have the mainstream narrative, which of course, most people now they look at that and say, okay, that's they're leading us. It's bread and circuses, and they're getting us focused on but you have then the next level down, next level down. But even those narratives, I think, are still missing the point where they're still focused on, see, here's proof that it was a virus that came out of a lab in China.
• 27:28
  Where in the next level, you're saying, actually, it started out in The United States. It was brought into China. And so as you're digging deeper into this, you know, one question that I have for you, and I love asking people like yourself this exact question is, who do you see calling the shots with a lot of this stuff? Because when I take a step back and I'm trying to piece that together, I see the Chinese Communist Party. The Chinese Communist Party, look at the control they have over the Bidens.
• 27:54
  Look at the control they have over Hollywood. So much of our countries, you have that. But then you also look at the the European banking dynasties and their you know, how they actually got the CCP off the ground. They're involved with you know, they've got BlackRock and Vanguard. You have all that happening.
• 28:09
  Then you have these organizations like the World Economic Forum, the WHO, the UN. And so as you're trying to piece together this web, is it that there's one central group that's controlling and manipulating everything, or do you see that there are multiple factions all helping sometimes, but going against each other sometimes? Almost like you'd imagine certain crime families. Like, they work together when it's beneficial, but they'll stab each other in the back if they can gain the upper hand. What's your perception and understanding of what's happening?
• 28:43
  George Webb: Yeah. I I definitely think that the Atlantic Council is sort of this sort of the select members of the CIA and State Department and deep state sort of thing. It's all sort of working together. You know, you have people in the in the energy sector, the council on foreign relations, etcetera, Atlantic Council. And then you have people who are in the intelligence sector, Assad, MI six, CIA.
• 29:11
  But again, select members. And then you have people in the military And they all kind of come together in like something like a energy, right, where you have a Jim Woolsey, you have a Rupert Murdoch, you have Larry Summers. You have at the project for New American Century guys that have one foot in energy, and they have one foot also in intelligence and maybe one foot also in the military world, like a general James Jones or whoever the latest supreme allied commander is in NATO. It's a small cabal, and that's why I like to focus on the Atlantic Council. But sort of the Uber Committee is the, you know, the energy players.
• 29:57
  So the the Nelson Rockefellers and then the follow on to the Nelson Rockefellers, George O'Neill, John D. Rockefeller the fourth, Henry Kissinger, these type of folks. Of course, Nathan Rothschild. There's an Uber group here, a Bilderberg type, you know, where they say they throw it over the wall to these guys, and they say, you go do that. We're not gonna do these flips.
• 30:23
  You guys go do that. Tell us when to invest the money. We'll invest the money. So I'd say the Bilderberg kind of group is more in the background. And then there's this foreground group that's sort of like how you would hire a lawyer or hire a professional baseball team.
• 30:37
  Go do this. Go win us a pennant. So there's the George Steinbrenner types, and then there's the, you know, the Yogi Beras or whoever I wouldn't say Yogi Beras now, but, you know, the the baseball players, they go out and do this stuff. And I you know, you don't you don't get very much, ability to look behind the curtain at the Bilderbergs. So you have to kind of work from like David Petraeus on down KKNR.
• 31:05
  You have to watch the cutouts, Henry Kravis. You have to kind of watch the cutouts that have profited time and time again from these black swan events, from creating these world crises and creating these mass formation psychosis, and then then follow that.
• 31:21
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's going to get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.
• 31:54
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• 32:26
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• 33:09
  George Webb: And that's but I I'm not saying that there isn't another hand here. Certainly, the Rockefellers influenced Kissinger a lot. Certainly, the Rockefeller's inter into influenced MI six guys a lot. Certainly, there's an Israel lobby here also. And that's kind of the three legged stool I I see every day.
• 33:29
  Seth Holehouse: I see. Okay. That makes sense. And even for yourself, then, you know, you've been doing this for years. Have you ever been a target?
• 33:38
  Have you ever had threats or assassination attempts? Or because if you look at people like Seth Rich or anybody that especially, you know, comes against the Clintons, you know, they commit the famous, you know, the the self inflicted two gunshot wounds to the back of the head suicide. So have you ever run into any any fear for what you're doing and what you're exposing?
• 34:01
  George Webb: Well, my partner is dead. You know, she died in 2018. She died in a hotel, same hotel I was in under suspicious circumstances. I worked with a guy who worked with whistleblowers for Afghanistan called a special investigator general. He died of a very fast cancer in 2020, Brian Lloyd.
• 34:23
  So people may know Jenny Moore's story, the task force story. There was a lot of people in Hollywood that were very empathetic about her. I don't try to think about the red dots. Just keep going. Sometimes you just keep moving and keep going.
• 34:43
  You stay alive. And so, I don't ever worry about that though. It's probably the same way you feel, Seth. It's like if this is how I die, would be about the best way to go. Don't want to be alone, home in my bed doing nothing.
• 34:58
  I want to be out there at least trying.
• 35:01
  Seth Holehouse: That's a good point. Something going back to Ukraine, which it's interesting to have this perspective. So when the Ukraine war first started when Russia invaded, And there was a person I think that I had interviewed is he went by bio clandestine. He had revealed that a lot of these bombing sites were tied into these bio lab sites, etc. And there was a whole different narrative to the Ukraine war about the Ukraine being this hub for deep state activity, human trafficking, child trafficking, organ harvesting, drugs, etcetera.
• 35:34
  So from your perspective and understanding that region and especially the high level criminal activity in that region, what do you view or how do you process Putin's motive for his invasion of Ukraine? Was it that obviously, he's seeing the world through a very different lens than we are. And he would see, he'd be aware, I'm sure, of all of that deep state activity in Ukraine, all that criminal activity in Ukraine, aware of what's happening in the bio labs. I'm sure he has all kinds of spies throughout that entire network feeding information back. So do you think that that is one of the larger reasons for his invasion of Ukraine?
• 36:13
  Or what do you think is behind that? What do think he's thinking with that?
• 36:16
  George Webb: Yeah. Well, it used to be part of the Soviet Union, as you know. And of course he has a million spies there. And bio clandestine is great. I've followed him for years and I've been doing the Ukraine labs since 2017 myself.
• 36:33
  So we always knew it was there, Odessa being the hub. And we've been following it since it was 10 labs, now it's 46 or something. Yes, let's just say it was us and somebody in Mexico or Canada had one huge lab with horrific anthrax and then one Battelle lab and then they built, let's say, five more. Then they were building them all along the border. They had them in Winnipeg, but now they're building them in Montreal.
• 37:09
  Now they're building them in Toronto. Now they're building them you know, at some point you go, hey, wait a minute. This happened to us, by the way, with the Cuban Missile Crisis. At some point you've got to say Monroe Doctrine and this is our sphere of influence and we can't have that kind of threat to our security. And this is where I say, if we got rid of Zelensky, the war ends because he's the one who doesn't want to accept he wants the endless ATM machine from The United States.
• 37:45
  And and what what I think Putin wants to do is say, look, the Russian speaking you know, Dannetsk, can you throw Kharkiv in there if you wanna say Kharkiv? But if you want to speak Russian, great. And I don't want these biolads on the border where we don't have at least some kind of buffer. Israel wants the same kind of thing for their existence. So I don't think that's unreasonable.
• 38:15
  I don't think Putin if we stop today funding, I don't think Putin's gonna go, I'm taking Kyiv. I'm gonna take Odessa. I'm I'm gonna try to teach all these Ukrainian speakers to try to speak Russian. You know, I I think those days, those days are over. And Putin's main emphasis, if you listen to what he says or what the foreign ministers say, is security, as Kennedy in in Cuba.
• 38:48
  So that's my opinion. I don't know what's in his head, obviously, but that seems to be what he's doing. He's he doesn't otherwise, every day, he'd be carpet bombing Kyiv. So I'll leave it there. I don't know what he's thinking, so I can't really prove it.
• 39:07
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. It's a logical response. One thing I saw I wanna shift topics a little bit with you. The you know, we're we live in an age I mean, look at you and I. Right?
• 39:17
  We're by and large, just citizens doing journalism and trying to uncover the truth and bring that truth to as many people as possible. We're not, you know, bought and paid for by corporate actors or large organizations. And so one it's
• 39:33
  George Webb: not
• 39:33
  Seth Holehouse: just us. A lot of people that are watching these shows, they might have their own Telegram channel, or they've started a YouTube channel or just sharing information. I think that we're we're living in a phase where the average person that's trying to become more aware of what's happening is becoming their own citizen journalist, and they're researching and they're uncovering. And actually, BioCamp Clandestine is a perfect example of that. Someone that's just researching and he ended up breaking a significant story.
• 39:57
  I know that you do a lot of different shows on how to really how to research, how to be a journalist, how to discern what's true and fake. And what I find it very difficult, and even I myself have gone down the wrong, you know, hole because I was led astray and thinking something was real. And I was like, Oh my gosh, that was actually that was misinformation that was put out. And it's difficult. So for people that are trying to discern who they can trust, what's real, what's really happening, what the real narrative is, what's being hidden, What are some very practical pieces of advice that you can give them to form a better understanding of the world, and I think more importantly, not be led astray by, you know, con artists and people that are intentionally putting out misinformation to make money, build up a big following, or whatever that whatever their motives might be.
• 40:52
  George Webb: Yeah. Well, we we try to get together in these news gathering shreds where we meet as people, like local interest groups. And so there may be seven, ten, 12. And then we all share information with each other. And one of the best ways you can see let's just take this side here's SFC.
• 41:17
  I don't know what the MOS is there, but he's a certain army guy. My dad was army, Bogenville, Guadalcanal and so forth. There's a story there. I guarantee you, there's a child of that guy and maybe a grandchild. And you could go over here in Lima, Ohio and interview that guy and learn more about where they were.
• 41:45
  Here's the Navy guy. So right along your own street here, Mr. Grubb. I don't know the story of all these guys, but you don't necessarily have to do journalism. Don't have to necessarily go to Washington.
• 42:03
  I was in Portland, Oregon and I called up and somebody arranged a phone call for me to talk to Sy Hirsch. Nice display here. I'll give you a little shot of the throw a little Christmas in here. But Sy Hirsch said, if you have a story in Washington and you're trying to do corruption in Washington, you've to go to Washington, D. C.
• 42:25
  That's just what you've to do. But you don't necessarily have to do that. I mean, are stories all up and down your street. And you just go out and record them and you have a camera like this, I'm holding it, and you have a little microphone maybe, and you just start asking questions and you just put it out there on your channel. And then somebody the amazing thing that happens is somebody will go, I knew Linda Hine.
• 42:55
  I was with her. I went to school with Linda Hine. She's, you know, was with Jessica, what's her name, you know, in Fallujah. Right? And then people start making connections to you and then you start building a following and then you'll find other people who are like minded and you'll build a little network.
• 43:15
  We had a school here in Michigan called Neighborhood News. The idea was that every little town would have a cafe society where you would collect information. For instance, I'll just pick one here. We're walking by the Marathon Oil Company. Okay?
• 43:37
  Here, Marathon Oil, right? Well, Marathon Oil specialists in short, very short pipelines for situations like, let's say I want to have a secure pipeline for military installations or government installations and so forth. Max Fisher, the protege of Mr. Wexner, was one of the key principles of Marathon Oil. And one of the secrets of taking over a country or creating havoc in a country is that while they're all fighting and arguing, you could be drilling and pumping out all the oil to a sea tanker about 12 miles.
• 44:27
  So they specialize in very short straws, if you will, to get oil. So there's people and executives that you could interview at Marathon Oil. So there's all these things that Ryder in your own hometown that you can put a video out about and then you'll find someone do your research on the Internet first, but someone else will add to your story, and it it'll it'll be real. You know it's real because you went over there and went, that's not, Potemkin Village. That's a real city.
• 45:03
  That's real brick. That's the way you start. You just start walking around and talking to people. And then you'll get better and better at it. That's my recommendation.
• 45:18
  Seth Holehouse: That's really helpful. It's just real. It's real. It's not just sitting behind a computer staring at who knows what for hours on end, getting lost in Twitter threads and all kinds of little rabbit holes. So as a a question to round out our discussion, as you're seeing, you're very going back to this global crime syndicate, which has a lot of names for it, the cabal, the deep state, whatever we want to refer to it as.
• 45:45
  But this global crime syndicate that obviously has immense power over our world. There's the you look at Elon Musk buying Twitter, Alex Jones came back on the cracking in the narrative, Tucker Carlson not being owned by Murdoch anymore and being able to interview people like Alex Jones. The awareness of people around the world is rapidly, rapidly increasing, especially the awareness of people like Klaus Schwab, who's trending. He's trending almost every day on Twitter these days. Right?
• 46:14
  People are now seeing this. Do you think that this global crime syndicate is at a point where they're weakening and they could potentially be on the verge of losing control or have enough people rising up and resisting that their plan for this new world order and this global tectonic slave system may not be implemented properly or may fail to actually be put into place.
• 46:45
  George Webb: Yeah, but we have numbers. We have numbers. If we become citizen journalists, if we get involved. And like I said, if we all sit back and just say, here's Alex Jones's version of events, here's Tucker's version of events, Well, maybe Tucker goes off on aliens. And you don't want to do aliens.
• 47:05
  You want to do the BlackBerrys. You could go out and do a report and just say, hey, let's say you live in Canada. You live in Waterloo, Canada. You can go over and say, I know somebody who works there. Could corroborate that part of the story that George is working on.
• 47:22
  Or you could say, oh, I saw the Rim movie or the Research in Motion. I saw the BlackBerry movie and I know the guy who was the expert consultant on the movie. So you don't even need to wait for someone else to come around to the story that you care about. You can add something to somebody else's story, a corroboration to that story. And that's where we get the incredible power.
• 47:50
  I have a group of researchers all around the world that Tucker Carlson would die for, that Alex Jones would die for. Because most of those folks are consuming things in a lean back, where our people are more researchers in a lean forward type mode. But whoever it is, Amazing Poly or if it's pick the researcher you like the most. Mark Kuliak is a great researcher. There's a lot of them out there that do deep dive type shows.
• 48:24
  And and just get involved in their community. And then they'll start asking questions. You'll learn a lot from just the chat. Learn just as much from the chat as if you watched Infowars or whatever. And and that's the way we win because what happens is we punch through the fake facades, Potemkin villages, prop up towns, the little studio sets, and we get to what the truth actually is.
• 48:50
  That's what I would say is the number one thing is get involved and start meeting with other people either virtually through Zoom or if you can, meet people because you build when you meet somebody and have a break bread with them, you have a trust network. So those are my two recommendations.
• 49:07
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Actually, so much of the information I've come across has come just from chats. Actually, even the reason why I'm interviewing you today is from my Telegram group. You have a very active Telegram chat, and they're going back and forth. They're saying, gotta get George Webb on, and and I I listened to that.
• 49:22
  I hone into these people. I discovered who Katherine Austin Fitz was through a telegram my telegram chat. People say, God answer. I was like, who's this Katherine Austin Fitz? This is a couple years back and like, oh, I still can't get her on because she's very difficult to get ahold of.
• 49:35
  I have her email, but just anyway, it's a whole different story. So George, where are the best places Bill can follow your work, follow what you're doing?
• 49:44
  George Webb: Sure. I'm realgeorgeweb1, the number one. So realgeorgeweb1. Long story, I had a different one, but it got hacked. On Twitter, it's probably the best place.
• 49:56
  I'm georgewebb. Substack dot com. I have a sub sec that I do about one posting every two or three days. And then I try to do a show with a guy called The Duke Report. I try to do it three days a week, which is Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays at 5PM.
• 50:18
  So those are the places you can catch me if you want to see YouTube or one of the broadcast videos. It's the Duke Report or catch me on Substack. And I usually do like three to five minute videos on on Twitter. So that's my kind of social media profile.
• 50:37
  Seth Holehouse: Well, we go. Well, George, thanks again for making time for us. It's been nice seeing Lima, Ohio through your little tour of it.
• 50:45
  George Webb: We might be in Findlay. I think I'm actually in Findlay. Oh, okay. You know what? I was on Lima Road.
• 50:50
  We took Lima Road off, and it's I'm actually in Findlay. So that's the other thing is you get real feedback. You get real feedback here. You know, I knew when I saw Marathon Oil headquarters, I said, wait a minute. That's Finley.
• 51:02
  So anyway, Finley, Ohio. There you go.
• 51:07
  Seth Holehouse: Well, there we go. Well, George, thanks again for coming on. It's been a pleasure speaking with you, and I appreciate the work that you're you're doing and that you'll continue to do to help people understand what's happening in this world.
• 51:17
  George Webb: Thank you, Seth. Appreciate it.
• 51:19
  Seth Holehouse: Alright. Take care.