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- 0:00This is Retro Sports Radio. Visit RetroSeasons.com for more sports history.
- 0:07This is Norm Van Brocklin of the Philadelphia Eagles. In a few moments I'll tell you about my greatest sports thrill.
- 0:13This is Harry Whismur. What you're about to hear is a transcribed story of one of pro football's outstanding players and an event our special guest, Norm Van Brocklin, considers his greatest sports thrill.
- 0:38And Norm himself is here to tell us all about it. But first, here is Bill Raddick with a message of interest from your United States Air Force.
- 0:47In every sport, the importance of initiative cannot be overemphasized.
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- 1:38See your local Air Force recruiter for full details on a great future in the new age of space.
- 1:45And now, back to Harry Wismer.
- 1:48To many people who have been there, only two unforgettable events have taken place in the history of the Los Angeles Coliseum.
- 1:55This is the stadium which has accommodated such spectacles as the Olympic Games, a 9 3 tenths, 100 yard dash by Mel Patton,
- 2:04an earthquake which shifted 90,000 fans six inches towards Santa Monica, and an escaped lion that was stalked by hundreds of deputies.
- 2:13However, by general acclamation, one of the two greatest events was the cross field sprint at a 1952 pro football game by Marilyn Monroe against the winds.
- 2:24The other occurred in a game involving the Los Angeles Rams and more specifically, Norm Van Brocklin, their second string quarterback.
- 2:33The Detroit Lions were leading 3-0 in the first period on October the 29th, 1950 when Bob Waterfield, suffering one of his rare off days,
- 2:42was replaced by his lanky, freckle-faced understudy.
- 2:46Norm Van Brocklin was nervous, he fumbled twice and passed wildly, but the Rams rallied around their sophomore relief quarterback and at half time had built up a 24-10 lead.
- 2:58For the first time since he joined the club a year earlier, the Dutchman came into his own.
- 3:03For the first time he stopped being a pale reflection of the gifted Bob Waterfield.
- 3:08The second half went like this, 31-yard pass to Elroy Hirsch, 43 yards to Glenn Davis, 30 yards to Tom Beers, 42 yards to Bob Boyd, all in one period and all for touchdowns.
- 3:23Van Brocklin later connected on a fifth touchdown pass that day, tying the club record held by the great Waterfield.
- 3:30That was in 1950, in nine years with the Los Angeles Rams, before he was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles in the spring of 1958.
- 3:39Norm Van Brocklin was the National Football League's leading passer three times and finished second twice.
- 3:45Only Sammy Ball and Bobby Lane have passed for more yardage.
- 3:50No currently active quarterback has a higher efficiency rating in the league than Norm Van Brocklin.
- 3:55His lifetime mark of 55.3% is the third highest in history.
- 4:00Only the great Sammy Ball and Otto Graham topped that figure.
- 4:04It was mere luck that Norman Van Brocklin landed at the University of Oregon.
- 4:09He attended high school at Walnut Creek, California, not much more than passing distance from the University of California campus.
- 4:16The natural thing would have been to register at California or at least another of that state's big schools.
- 4:22But somehow he was overlooked in the scouting reports.
- 4:26In 1947, Oregon football underwent an electrifying change and an unknown from Walnut Creek, California suddenly became the most talked about athlete in the state.
- 4:37Van Brocklin led the Coast Conference in passing for two straight seasons.
- 4:41Oregon won nine of ten in 1948 and went on to the Cotton Bowl on January the 1st, 1949.
- 4:48Norman Van Brocklin reported to the Rams to find Clark Shaughnessy, the first of four head coaches he played under with the Rams, well-staffed at quarterback.
- 4:57Why Shaughnessy kept him has always been a puzzle to Van Brocklin, although Norm thinks it might have been his ability to kick.
- 5:04Using him only in spots in the first year, Shaughnessy was made to look good when the rookie pulled three crucial games out of the fire.
- 5:11Norm's 32 completions and 58 attempts was a shade higher than Waterfield's, who threw nearly five times his many passes.
- 5:19When Jim Hardy was traded to the Cardinals, the stage was set for a Waterfield-Van Brocklin battle for the number one job.
- 5:27The friendly rivalry between Waterfield and Van Brocklin took a slightly awkward turn when the understudy beat out the master in 1950 for the National Football League Passing Championship
- 5:37and also edged him on touchdown tosses 18 to 11.
- 5:42The next season it took three decimal points to separate them, Waterfield holding the edge.
- 5:47The 1952 season provided the final showdown, and Bob Waterfield Day at the Los Angeles Coliseum on December the 14th,
- 5:56with 74,000 fans out to honor the captain, Coach Hampton Poole opened the game with Waterfield at quarterback.
- 6:03The Pittsburgh Steelers were the opponents. Van Brocklin got his chance late in the first half and proceeded to steal Waterfield's game.
- 6:11He completed 17 passes for three touchdowns, sinking the Steelers 28 to 14, and clinched his second Pro Passing crown.
- 6:20That made certain the retirement of Bob Waterfield, a proud man whose lifetime record of 99 touchdowns by passing, was surpassed by Van Brocklin in 1957.
- 6:32Since 1953, the first year he had the number one quarterback position all to himself at LA, through 1957,
- 6:40Van Brocklin's passing and all around field generalship has established him as one of the outstanding quarterbacks in pro football.
- 6:48Today, the Dutchman with the rubber-like arm is a man with a grievance and a goal.
- 6:54When Los Angeles let him go, they made it known quietly that they hadn't won with him.
- 6:59Well, the Rams in 1958 didn't win without Van Brocklin, which gave him a certain amount of satisfaction.
- 7:06His goal? To win a title for the Philadelphia Eagles and coach Buck Shaw.
- 7:11Those who know Norm Van Brocklin won't take this bet at any odds.
- 7:17Now, before you meet our special guest, Norm Van Brocklin in person, in an interview from Philadelphia, and hear about his greatest sports thrill,
- 7:26here is a message of interest to all young men with an eye on the future.
- 7:32Former servicemen, did you know that some Air Force jet fighters contain 15 times as much electrical wiring as did World War II aircraft?
- 7:41It's true, and it points up the fact that today's Space Age Air Force is a highly technical organization.
- 7:48Naturally, technical experts are needed to keep the many Air Force jets, rockets, and missiles operational.
- 7:55Trained men, men like yourself, are needed right now.
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- 8:11Take advantage of your experience and background now.
- 8:15And by the way, former servicewomen are also needed by the Air Force.
- 8:19So, all you recent servicemen and women, see your local recruiter about joining the Space Age Air Force soon.
- 8:27An important job in a promising career field could be your reward.
- 8:31Now back to Harry Wismer.
- 8:33Norm Van Brocklin, what was your greatest sports thrill?
- 8:37Well, Harry, I guess the ultimate in any sport is to be a champion.
- 8:42Back in 1951, when we were fortunate enough to win the Western Division, when I was playing the Los Angeles Rams,
- 8:48and we played the Cleveland Browns back in 1951 for the championship,
- 8:53and we came on and won the ballgame 24 to 17 in the last couple of minutes,
- 8:58and I was fortunate enough to throw a pass to Tom Fiers to beat him.
- 9:03In my opinion, Harry, that was my greatest sports thrill.
- 9:06What was the big difference in coaching that you noticed the most when you made the jump from the Collegians to the Pros?
- 9:12Well, in college ball, we only had about six passes we threw, and we only had about 15 or 20 running plugs.
- 9:19In the summer of 1949, Clark Shaughnessy was the coach of the Rams, and if you know the history of Clark Shaughnessy,
- 9:26he's a bug on paperwork and drawing those Xs and zeros.
- 9:29And he told me, he says, now I want you to forget everything that you did in college.
- 9:34He said, you and the other quarterback, who was a rookie that year also, Bobby Thomas,
- 9:39and he says, you meet me tomorrow morning at 9 o'clock at Room So-and-So out at UCLA campus.
- 9:45So we went out there for two weeks. All we did was study football.
- 9:50And at the end of about 15 minutes, he lost me, and I didn't come through for about a month.
- 9:55They have a glossary of expressions here in pro ball, and they do more with the game than I had been used to in college,
- 10:03and it was quite a jump for me.
- 10:05Do you recall the first game you ever played with the Los Angeles Rams?
- 10:09I sure do. Since I was a little kid, I always read about Sleg and Sammy ball.
- 10:13The first ball game I got in with the Los Angeles Rams, the coach told me, he said,
- 10:17now I want to play Bob Waterfield today, and if he doesn't get a touchdown the first couple of times, he gets in there.
- 10:24He says, you're going in there, kid. So I said, okay.
- 10:27So Bob didn't move the ball club in the first play I was in there. I was real nervous, and I fumbled the ball from center.
- 10:34The Redskins recovered in the first play Sammy ball threw for a touchdown, and we were down seven to nothing.
- 10:39Fortunately, we were able to come back and win the ball game,
- 10:42but I feel very good about Mr. Shaughnessy having confidence in me and putting me back in there.
- 10:47Norm, as the quarterback, do you run the team in the field, or do you take suggestions from your teammates from time to time?
- 10:55We do both, Harry. I get my best suggestions from ends and tackles and centers and guards and remaining backs.
- 11:03They're the fellows that tell you how the fellows play them over them.
- 11:07If a tackle is charging real hard, well, usually that would indicate that we get trapped.
- 11:11If he's playing soft, well, we feel we can double team him real good and go off tackle, say.
- 11:16Or an end can come back and tell me, give me a corner, give me a pose, give me a hook.
- 11:21I've got a pigeon over here, feed me today, and things like that. Those are the kind of things that go on all the time in the huddle.
- 11:27Norm, does a quarterback ever change a play from the time you leave the huddle until the ball is snapped at the line of scrimmage?
- 11:34Yes, we have several audible, we call them audible signals. We give them audibly on the line of scrimmage.
- 11:40Some ball clubs use colors and then a number, and some ball clubs just use names.
- 11:46The Rams used to use names and colors together. With the Eagles, we used numbers.
- 11:51I'll give you an example. We were playing the Chicago Cardinals here in Philadelphia, and they were shooting seven men at us.
- 11:59They came in there and got us. Next time I came up there, and they not only shot seven, but they brought a defensive halfback up there.
- 12:06I said, this is getting a little ridiculous. They're shooting everybody with a coach up here.
- 12:09So I rubbed off with an audible signal, swung the two remaining backs and peaks, clearance peaks.
- 12:14Our fullback was fortunate enough to get through the line. I popped him a little short pass, and he ran all the way for touchdown.
- 12:20There was nobody left. They gambled on getting me before the receiver got off the line of scrimmage.
- 12:25Norm, is there a game in your pro career you wish you could play over again if you had the chance?
- 12:31I sure do. In 1955, we were playing those same Cleveland Browns for the championship out in Los Angeles.
- 12:37We had two weeks to get ready for them. As we went on the field, I would have sworn we were going to beat these guys real good.
- 12:44We would have gone out and beat 38 to 14. I had five passes intercepted. That night, I had never felt so badly in all my life.
- 12:52It was probably the most embarrassing day I ever spent, especially when about 50 million people watched it all over the United States.
- 13:00Norm, what is the funniest thing that ever happened to you on a football field?
- 13:05The funniest thing that ever happened to me on a football field took place in Philadelphia in 1950.
- 13:10We were playing Philadelphia Eagles. I was then a Ram. The World Series between the Yankees and the Phillies were on.
- 13:18We played over at Municipal Park instead of Shide Park or Connie Mack Stadium.
- 13:23There were about 15,000 people in that great big stadium out there. We came to town 6-0 leading the league.
- 13:30The Eagles had a pretty good football club, too. They had a middle guard named Piggy Barnes.
- 13:36Piggy was tearing our center up pretty good. Our statuto from Notre Dame.
- 13:41He kept hitting the statuto and he was half-knocking me down and doing a good job on the statuto.
- 13:46We came out of the huddle one time and lined up. The statuto said, if you don't quit throwing that forearm, I'm going to knock your teeth out.
- 13:54Piggy had a rubber mouthpiece and he pulled it out and he said, go ahead. He said, somebody already beat you to it.
- 14:01Thank you very much, Norm Van Brockland of the Philadelphia Eagles.