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137: Sunlight, Spirit & Sovereignty: Katelyn Simmons on Energetic Liberation · The Reverse Aging Club with Meredith Oke

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Meredith Oke: Hi, Katelyn Simmons. Welcome to the QVC podcast.
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Katelyn Simmons: Hello. Thank you so much, Meredith. I'm so
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excited to be here.
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Meredith Oke: So am I. I've been following your story, you
7:11
know, since you took the certification a couple
7:15
years ago. You were, like, one of the OG early
7:17
adopters on that, and I've always wanted to chat
7:19
with you about. And it just kind of now, you
7:22
know, and then you were like, oh, she's having a
7:23
baby. I'll leave her alone. And now your baby's
7:26
one year old, so time to do a podcast.
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Katelyn Simmons: I'm so excited. And you're the first podcast I've
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ever been on, so this is, like, ultra special for
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me.
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Meredith Oke: Oh, well, I am honored, and I'm excited to tell
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your story and hear your. Hear your journey and
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share it with everyone, because it's a good one.
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And I also just want to mention Caitlin's.
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Katelyn's baby turned 1 on May 15, and my
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youngest turned 11 on May 15. And Nico Kennedy,
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who, many of you know, had her fifth baby on May
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15th. So we're just gonna all celebrate the May
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15th quantum babies. Okay, so you started your
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career in wellness as a massage therapist, and
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that took you through some experiences that led
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you down other paths. So let's start there.
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Katelyn Simmons: Okay. Well, 18, fresh out of high school. I knew
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I wanted to be in the holistic health world, and
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I didn't exactly know where that was going to
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lead. I thought maybe acupuncture or maybe become
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a naturopath or something. But I started with
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massage therapy and the local holistic health
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practitioner program near me, and then ended up
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falling in love with massage and built my own
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practice. After working for other people, I kind
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of got that entrepreneurial itch and was like, I
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gotta work for myself, and just started working
9:04
with people and loving, helping people, because
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it's like, it was so tangible getting to put your
9:08
hands on someone and then they come in feeling
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terrible and get up, and then they feel great.
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But I started to see where it wasn't, like,
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lasting. It was like, I could help them
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temporarily. But so many people were coming to me
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because they had chronic pain or chronic illness
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or whatever was chronic. And I had. Had. I got
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diagnosed with Lyme disease back when I was 13.
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So that was also something in my story where I
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was, like, also trying to figure out what was
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going on with me and how I could get really
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better all the way. So that led me to the
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lymphatic system. Once I learned about how, you
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know, why were people so puffy and why would why
9:53
would the inflammation go down when we would do
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massage? And so I got trained in lymphatic
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enhancement technology and bought this fancy
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equipment for my office and then started seeing
10:02
better results with my clients. But still, it was
10:05
like, okay, well, why is their lymphatic system
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not ever doing it on their own? Like, why is it
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still stuck? And why are people feeling great
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maybe for a week or two after they see me? And
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then having this downhill slump? I need to come
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back. Because it kind of felt like, wow, these
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are lifelong clients. That's not. That didn't sit
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right with me because that's what the Western
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model felt like.
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Meredith Oke: Right.
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Katelyn Simmons: And I had already been through that rabbit hole.
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Meredith Oke: You wanted to be part of something that was
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actually helping them stay better.
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Katelyn Simmons: Yeah.
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Meredith Oke: Not just have a temporary and.
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Katelyn Simmons: Yeah. Like, be empowered. So then that led me to
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becoming an integrative health practitioner and
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learning about supplements and getting trained in
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all these different things and just certification
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after certification searching. Meanwhile, I was
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still not feeling my best. And I would go into
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work and love my clients and help my clients and
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then basically go home feeling terrible after and
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picking up their energy, feeling drained, feeling
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exhausted, and just. Just knew something was
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missing. But I couldn't figure it out. Right.
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Meredith Oke: Because you've done all the things. You had the
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massage training, you had the lymphatic training,
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you had integrative holistic supplement training.
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And it.
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Katelyn Simmons: It's.
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Meredith Oke: That seems like all the things.
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Katelyn Simmons: Yeah. And it did.
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Meredith Oke: It feels like that should cover it.
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Katelyn Simmons: It did.
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Meredith Oke: When most people enter a holistic healing,
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they're like, yeah, that sounds good. That's all
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the things.
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Katelyn Simmons: Exactly.
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Meredith Oke: Right.
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Katelyn Simmons: And, you know, I really didn't know there was
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more. The only thing I knew I hadn't looked into
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was energy. Right. But as my belief system as a
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Christian growing up with this, you know, I guess
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the paradigm is you stay away from that stuff.
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Like, I remember feeling so uncomfortable in my
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massage class just because people were talking
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about crystals. Now I laugh, but it is something
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that's real. People are really actually afraid of
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a lot of this side of things that we're talking
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about because they don't understand.
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Meredith Oke: I would love to understand a little bit more
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about that because I actually did not know that
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until recently. Until, you know, we. I started
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getting involved in this world and, you know,
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switched from creating corporate consulting
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programs to helping create quantum biology
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programs. And this has come up several times with
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different people. And I was raised in the
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Anglican Church, which in the United States is
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the Episcopalian church. We didn't really have
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rules like that. It was a very kind of standard
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religion where you went and you, you know, they
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didn't really say much about what you did outside
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of church. And I just, I didn't know that there
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was this deep belief where. So if you could
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explain it to me. Is it. My understanding is that
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it's like seen as like a form of maybe witchcraft
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or.
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Katelyn Simmons: Yes.
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Meredith Oke: Evil. Evil manipulation of things that we
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shouldn't be messing around with.
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Katelyn Simmons: Yeah, it's.
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Meredith Oke: Or how is it framed?
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Katelyn Simmons: I think it's probably different each person and
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what they were taught and what the environment
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probably felt like as a child or what they were
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taught in church. For me it was looked at like
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it's New Age. New Age was just basically this far
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off thing that you didn't even want to learn
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about. Like it's evil, it's wrong, it's
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witchcraft. And that was a whole. That was where
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my paradigm started to shift was because I was
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thrown right into it. I went from like sheltered
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little Caitlyn Christian everything to massage
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school where then I. Everything in my life,
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everyone that came in was more New age than
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anything I had learned. So. And it was just
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something that you didn't know about or like
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crystals, those were evil. You see a crystal
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shop, you don't go in there. That's witchcraft.
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There's only witches in there. Like it's. And
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it's not really talked about a lot. It's just you
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just know you, you're not supposed to do it and
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you don't learn anything about it or. Does that
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make sense?
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Meredith Oke: Yes, it's just sort of like an off limits. Yeah,
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an off limits topic. And yeah, like I could, I
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can kind of understand because as with anything,
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if you take it to its extreme or you do it
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without ethics or, or grounding or, you know, you
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have an experienced mentor or guide, like the New
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Age movement could go way off the rails. So. Or
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the, the things that are involved in it. So I do
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understand from a certain perspective that you
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would want to protect people from that.
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Katelyn Simmons: And I think then as someone who is really like,
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I'm really strong in my belief. I'm not. I didn't
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like leave. I still love Jesus. I'm still a
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Christian. Like it's just hard for me to want to
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be connected to the religion side of it because
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then I feel like it's this weird in between of
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just trying to explain. Like this is just energy.
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This is just how, if you believe in God, this is
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how God made you. This is how you're Made like
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it's what you're made of. Yeah, just simplifying
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it and breaking it down. Like, I don't think
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anyone needs to be afraid of this stuff. And, you
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know, fear. We know fear is such a low frequency.
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Like, that's like the worst frequency to be
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vibrating at. And so helping people switch from
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fear to actual discernment, where you're really
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using critical thinking skills and actually
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looking at things. And, you know, if you read the
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Bible and you believe the Bible, the Bible just
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clearly says what to do. And the Bible doesn't
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say anything about, like, specifically New Age or
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energy or frequency. And actually, as I've
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learned more, it strengthened my faith, and it's
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made me look at the things I've grown up with and
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read in the Bible and made me realize, wow,
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laying on of hands, taking every thought captive,
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like distance walking on water. Like, all of the
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miracles, they make sense. It's like, whoa, we
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live in a quantum universe, and that's how we
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were created. So I think everybody, if you've
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struggled with that, you really just try to have
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an open mind and look at the science, look at
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the. Look at what everything on your podcast,
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like, everything points back to strengthening
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your faith. If that's where you come from, if.
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Meredith Oke: That makes sense, that makes perfect sense. And,
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Katelyn, you explain that really beautifully. So
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I'm really glad you're doing this podcast, and I
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hope you do a lot more because you have really
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connected, I think, made a connection that is
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going to be really profound and powerful for
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people.
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Katelyn Simmons: I hope so. I hope so, because I just see, you
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know, I don't believe that anyone was put on this
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Earth to have to live a painful life. I think
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that everyone is worthy and capable and, like,
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it's your birthright to be healthy and blessed
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and abundant. And for some reason, a lot of stuff
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in religion says otherwise. And I just want to
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shed light on that. Like, and this, all. This all
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points to that. That, like, we're energy, we can
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raise our vibration, we can raise our frequency.
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It's just. It's incredible.
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Meredith Oke: It really is. And I love the word that you used
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instead of fear. You didn't say faith, you didn't
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say trust. You said discernment. And I think that
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is a really good word choice and really profound
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because nobody's saying, like, oh, just believe
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everything we say. It's. Use your. Use your best
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judgment at what makes sense. As you explore
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these new paradigms, as you explore the available
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research, as you connect to your own inner
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wisdom, what feels true and what, what does the
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evidence point to? And that's not just fully
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rejecting something out of fear and not just
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fully embracing something out of. Out of faith,
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but moving toward it.
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Katelyn Simmons: I mean, then you'd be watching TV and say, oh,
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yeah, that's true, that's true. Everything. Like,
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that's terrible. I tell people that all the time.
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Like, don't take what I say for truth. Look it up
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yourself. I even got a message recently, someone
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saying, like, can you tell me? Like, she was
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really intense about one of the products I share.
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I shared about Sheilajit. And it was like, well,
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what's this? What's that? I'm like, I don't know
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all the specifics. You can look at all the brands
18:41
and make a decision for yourself. You don't have
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to use what I use. So we have to use discernment
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in everything? Yes, everything we buy. When you
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go to the grocery store, use your critical
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thinking and pick what works for you.
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Meredith Oke: Yes, absolutely. And your discernment. When
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listening to podcasts, I feel like sometimes
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you'll have a favorite podcast host and they'll
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be talking about a thing and you're like, oh, I
19:02
better take that or do it or order it. It's like,
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maybe, maybe not. Again, your inner discernment
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on it. Okay, so let's circle back to your
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journey. So you had become very well educated in
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the kind of baseline natural health modalities
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that a lot of us know. Massage therapy, lymphatic
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drainage, supplements. And it helped. But you
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still, even though you felt intellectually like,
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okay, these are all the things you felt inside.
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Like, there's something, there's something more.
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Katelyn Simmons: Yeah. And my, my body was screaming at me too.
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Like, it. There was clear signs, like,
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something's missing. Because I was still
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struggling, not healing from trauma I had been
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through. I'd been through a lot of trauma care.
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Like, I had chronic lower back pain from an
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accident I had been in. I had anxiety,
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depression, ptsd. I couldn't drive my car to my
19:59
office without having to plan to literally be
20:02
able to pull over and work through a panic
20:03
attack. Like, I was holding it together with
20:08
trying to help my clients and trying to help
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myself. And just literally by the end of the day,
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it was like there were days I would crawl up the
20:16
stairs to my apartment. Like, it was just so
20:18
intense. Like, I knew something was wrong, but I
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was like, how could something be wrong when I
20:22
have a sauna? I had a full size sauna in my tiny
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apartment in Southern California. My poor husband
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was like, everything is well. Like, I had
20:32
everything you could possibly imagine that you
20:35
know, of in the root cause community. And I. So
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it got to a point where I just was like,
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something has to change. I. And I made a
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decision. I remember the day I was looking at my
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life, like, something has to change. I have to
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heal. I have to get better. I have to find what
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I'm missing. And so I prayed, and it was like
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this divine download that I can't even. I don't
20:56
even know how. It just was like, Search Energy
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healing. Christian energy healing on Instagram.
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It was so clear. It was like. And I never had
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thought of that. I was like, christian energy.
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Meredith Oke: Christian energy healing. I love how specific
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these intuitive hits can be. Beautiful. Okay.
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Katelyn Simmons: It was crazy. And so I did. And it's still. It
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still just makes me laugh because it's like, wow.
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It. It. And it's been there, like, so many. After
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I, you know, told my parents about it and worked
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through the certifications and all these things,
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my mom was like, you know, how many people have
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told us about this, like, over the years, like,
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we've been.
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Meredith Oke: So anyways, told them about Christian energy.
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Katelyn Simmons: Healing, like, specifically the emotion code and,
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like, energy work, like, releasing trapped
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emotions. And, you know, none of us, like, like,
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what is that? Who cares? So it took, like, really
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getting to a breaking point and just being
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desperate and praying and making that decision.
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I'm gonna change. My life has to shift. And then
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I came across on Instagram from that search
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Christian, who did the emotion code. And so I
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clicked on it and she was fully booked. And so I
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thought, okay, I'm just gonna look up what is the
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emotion code. If she thinks it's okay, I better
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look into it because at this point, I have to
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have an open mind. And, you know, I. I had
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already been doing, like, bioresonance in my
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practice. I had some of the frequency stuff.
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Like, my lymphatic machine was frequency back
22:21
when I was 13, that one of the things that really
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helped me from Lyme so that I could be well
22:26
enough to go to high school was pulsed
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electromagnetic field therapy. And we knew about
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red light. Like, we knew a lot of the frequency
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stuff, but not to this extent. So anyways, I went
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to the emotion code website and signed up for the
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certification that day. I'm going to learn how to
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do this and teach myself. I love it. And that,
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that was the start because I started learning,
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like, Dr. Bradley Nelson puts it into really
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amazing. Like, just. He breaks it down so good.
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Like, your energy, you're made of 99.99999%
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energy. And you have emotions, and your organs
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create emotions, and if you don't let them go and
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they get trapped, they're going to block energy,
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and so you're going to be in pain, and they can
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affect everything in your life. So then I learned
23:17
how to muscle test, which I had been wanting to
23:20
learn muscle testing for so long because there
23:22
were chiropractors I went to who did it, And I'd
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always ask them. I was like, how do you learn how
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to muscle test? I want to know, how do you do
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this? And they'd all tell me, oh, you have to go
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to chiropractor school. Like, okay. So that's why
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I made a muscle testing course.
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Meredith Oke: I learned it out of the back of the Power vs
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Force book, but.
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Katelyn Simmons: I wish I had that one, too. Like, you can learn
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it on YouTube. Like, it's so. Yeah, it's. It's
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how our bodies were made, right? We're like.
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We're drawn to truth, and we're repelled by
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false, like, lies. So anyways, that was the
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start, and so I got really obsessed with it. I
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started using it on all my clients, and that
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brought up the fear in my clients. And so from
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right then, as I was starting to explain it to
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these people in person, I realized I felt like I
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had this mission. I need to demystify this and
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help people see. Like, this is not evil. This is
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how your body was made. Emotions are real. And
24:21
just talking about your emotions isn't always
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going to be what works for me. That didn't work.
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I went to therapy. It felt like it just made
24:29
things worse. So this was such an incredible
24:32
tool. And then I started seeing it transform my
24:35
clients. Right there, we'd feel energy move like
24:39
wind, and my client would look at me like, did
24:41
you feel that? Or someone would turn bright red
24:43
when an emotion left. And it was like, whoa, this
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is real. This is tangible. Like, this is. This is
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the next thing. Like, we have to do energy.
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That's the missing piece. So then I was, like,
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searching on YouTube and looking for things about
24:56
the emotion code and came across the AO scan,
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which, if you're on my page, you know, I talk
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about that all the time, which is just a
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frequency. Another frequency tool.
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Meredith Oke: Okay.
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Katelyn Simmons: And that. That was the next thing. So between the
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emotion code and the AO scan, within a couple of
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months, I closed down my brick and mortar because
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I realized I need to go virtual. I need to get
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this word out to the masses. I need to go home
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and Heal and let my body heal. And it was just
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like I started having 180 after 180, after 180.
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And there's been no looking back. It's just been.
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And then I found you. And then I found the
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Quantum Biology collective. And I was like, whoa,
25:36
this is also cool. So I've been geeking out ever
25:39
since and just cannot get enough. It's just. It's
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like, it makes it all come together.
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Meredith Oke: Beautiful. What an incredible journey. Okay, so
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to walk us through a little bit, I mean, like, to
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get super specific but high level. The emotion
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code, how does that work?
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Katelyn Simmons: So the emotion code is basically just using your
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own body's subconscious and nervous system via
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muscle testing. So, like, you can press on your
26:06
body and you'll hold strong if you get an answer
26:09
from your nervous system. Yes. Or your body will
26:13
go weak if it's a no. And so Dr. Bradley Nelson,
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you can look him up and look, read his book. It's
26:21
like, I don't know, $15 book. And you can learn
26:23
how to do it yourself, which I love. I'm like,
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anything you can give people. Like, that's what
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the whole quantum biology is. It's like so many
26:30
free things people can do and totally transform
26:33
their life so fast. It's like, yeah, everyone
26:37
needs it anyway. So you identify a trapped
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emotion. So we could go like, do I have a trapped
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emotion? Yes. And then you can ask your body
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questions, where is that trapped emotion? Your
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liver? And then simply release it with, I guess
26:51
you could say, similar to acupuncture, you swipe
26:54
over your governing meridian three times and the
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emotional energy leaves. Did that kind of wrap up
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what it is?
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Meredith Oke: Yes.
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Katelyn Simmons: And so then he goes deeper into the body code and
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the belief code. And it's really cool, but it's
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like a tool I think everyone should know how to
27:13
do.
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Meredith Oke: Yes. You know, there are so many, you know, as
27:18
you were just saying, like, keeping our circadian
27:21
rhythms regulated, like that is just. Should be
27:24
sort of a basic thing that everyone understands
27:26
coming out of the gate.
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Katelyn Simmons: Right.
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Meredith Oke: Like, you mostly, if you're at all health
27:31
focused, you mostly know, like, to eat healthy
27:34
food and, like, drink clean water. And there,
27:37
there are so many things that could just be
27:40
foundational pieces of information that we all
27:43
have, that we all do ourselves, that we don't
27:45
have to outsource to other people. We don't have
27:47
to hire if you have, if you do have us. I'm big
27:50
on working with practitioners for sure, but
27:52
there, there are so many things we can do just in
27:56
Our day to day lives that we're not, you know,
27:59
that we've been told are really complicated. And
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I had a really good conversation with Eileen
28:05
McKusick about that where she does the bio. Like
28:08
her biofield tuning.
28:10
Katelyn Simmons: She was one of the ones that, like, once I read
28:12
her books, I was like, chakras, there's nothing
28:15
wrong with chakras. It's part of our body.
28:17
Because that was another big one in the Christian
28:18
community. I was like, oh, I love her so much.
28:21
Like, I've read her books so many times because
28:24
she's so incredible.
28:26
Meredith Oke: Oh, I love that. Yes. No, exactly. Well, I was
28:29
just going to say it's like we had this
28:32
conversation where we've sort of been led to
28:34
believe that trauma is like really embedded and
28:37
complex and you can't get rid of it. And
28:41
unresolved trauma absolutely has cascading
28:44
effects throughout our lives, but it doesn't have
28:48
to be unresolved.
28:50
Katelyn Simmons: Exactly, exactly. And I had been at. I was at
28:54
that point where I thought, because I had had
28:56
like a really scary thing happen to me and then
28:59
got rear ended on the freeway a couple weeks
29:01
later. And it felt like I was never gonna. It
29:04
took me years to heal from it because it. And it
29:06
felt like it was gonna live with me forever. But
29:08
then as soon as I started releasing trapped
29:10
emotions and I did biofield tuning eventually
29:13
too, once I found her, I was like, I bought her
29:15
tuning forks, I took her self course and like
29:19
started doing it all. But it was like, oh, the
29:23
memory is still there, but it's not creating this
29:27
physical reaction in my body anymore. I can drive
29:29
my car without shaking and having a panic attack.
29:32
I can think about what happened and not be
29:34
paranoid that someone's always chasing me or like
29:37
there can be things that used to be triggers and
29:40
it's not creating that physical response. And I
29:44
think that was a big piece to why, you know,
29:47
things weren't. Weren't healing. It was like
29:49
affecting. It affects your cells and it blocks
29:51
the meridians from flowing and like Eileen talks
29:53
about, it stays in your biofield, but it's like
29:57
you can just clear it out and have freedom and
30:01
it's transformative. Yeah.
30:05
Meredith Oke: And I feel like still to this day I feel a little
30:09
bit bad saying that. I feel like, oh, no, like,
30:12
don't make it sound so simple, Meredith. That's
30:14
not fair. But like, why not?
30:17
Katelyn Simmons: I mean, you know, it's a paradigm shift and
30:21
people, you know, you have to make a choice. I
30:23
had to make a choice to stop being in victim
30:26
mode. I think I feel so confident talking about
30:28
it, because I was there. I felt like, this is so
30:31
hard. How could anyone say anything to me
30:33
otherwise? How could you tell me to look at the
30:34
bright? Bright side? How could you? I remember
30:36
one of. I went. Used to go get colon
30:38
hydrotherapy, and I remember she'd tell me, she'd
30:40
be like, you know, sometimes we attract what we
30:43
are. Maybe you need. Like, she actually tried
30:46
saying that to me, and I was like, what? How
30:48
could you say? Like, I was mad afterwards, So I
30:52
get it. Like, but now, coming through it and
30:54
being on the other side, it's like, wow, we do
30:57
have to shift from victim to being triumphant.
31:00
Like, I am going to heal. I am going to change. I
31:03
am going to let this be in the past. Because
31:05
that's something I saw with my clients, too. I
31:07
built up my practice. I had all these people who
31:09
would come to see me for. Well, I went virtual,
31:12
but we do sessions, and a lot of people, not
31:15
everybody, but a good chunk of people, there was
31:19
a disconnect where they weren't really ready to
31:21
let it go. Like it was part of their identity.
31:24
And that's another thing I had to learn, too.
31:26
Lyme is not me. Lyme is just a thing. And I'm
31:30
gonna move forward from it. Like, so there's that
31:33
whole piece of. Yeah. Not being victim anymore.
31:38
Meredith Oke: Absolutely. And it's no small thing.
31:41
Katelyn Simmons: It is.
31:42
Meredith Oke: It is in the wider culture, I think, much safer
31:47
to feel like a victim than to feel like a
31:49
successful person and show up that way.
31:52
Katelyn Simmons: And it feels like our society's, like, made to
31:56
make that thrive. Like, it's. It's almost like
31:59
we're going against 99% of everybody to show up
32:03
as successful and healed and different.
32:09
Meredith Oke: Yes. And there's. There is currency in being
32:13
traumatized and damaged. And I'm gonna go. I'm
32:17
just gonna go all the way with it. And I'm
32:19
speaking of someone who has also healed a lot of
32:21
things. I haven't got into it on. On this
32:23
podcast, and I probably won't, but it was a lot.
32:26
It was a lot of things. And I think that in order
32:36
to fully let go of that victim mentality, in
32:39
order to fully let go of, like, oh, well, I have
32:41
this trauma, so I can't. It's. It's a way to have
32:46
low standards and low expectations for ourselves
32:49
and always give ourselves a way out.
32:52
Katelyn Simmons: Chills, mic drop, like, whoa, that needs to be a
32:55
quote. You need to put that in a quote and put it
32:58
on your Instagram. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's
33:04
huge. That was really profound.
33:13
Meredith Oke: Yeah. And I say that not just from. That's what I
33:17
see as a coach and other people. That's what I
33:19
saw in myself.
33:21
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah.
33:21
Meredith Oke: And then it's a continuous journey to move
33:24
through it. Every time we do something new, we
33:27
move through a version of it.
33:29
Katelyn Simmons: Yes. That's what, that's what came to mind was I
33:32
had to come to another version of it when I got
33:34
pregnant. And when I read, you know, I went. I'm
33:39
not going to go into all the birth stuff. That's
33:41
a whole other topic. But I read Yolanda Norris
33:44
Clark's book and I almost feel like that's a book
33:47
that, that everyone should read. Whether you want
33:49
to be a mom or not, or you've already had kids
33:51
and you're, you know, she just dives into that,
33:55
the whole victim mentality too, and she breaks it
33:57
down. And it helped me. I ended up having a free
34:02
birth, and that was my choice. And my husband and
34:04
I did that together. And I know everyone has
34:06
their opinions on that, but I felt so empowered.
34:11
And it was like the last. Well, I'm sure there's
34:14
more to work through, but another big chunk of
34:17
that victim of the negativity of it just, it
34:21
helped me shed that. Like, giving birth in that
34:24
way was so empowering. It was like I gave birth
34:27
to a new version of myself. And afterward, I
34:30
remember I just felt like, wow, I'm stepping into
34:33
my most authentic self now. And that's actually
34:36
something that really helped in every area of my
34:39
life. But it is a continual shedding. It's like
34:42
the onion, you gotta peel back all these layers
34:44
and it's kind of the never ending onion, but it.
34:50
Meredith Oke: Yes. And some days you're like, where is the
34:52
goddamn end of this onion?
34:56
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yeah.
35:02
Meredith Oke: Sorry to swear. I just want everyone to know when
35:05
I swear, I have calibrated the words to resonate
35:08
at a very high frequency. It's not real swearing.
35:22
So I, I was reading some of your experience and I
35:26
wanted to talk about this a little bit more. You
35:29
mentioned it briefly, but when you were doing in
35:32
person work with people, you were seeing them in
35:34
your clinic. You were, you know, putting your
35:37
hands on them to do them, to do massage therapy.
35:40
You talked about, like, the energetic effects of
35:45
that and how you had to learn to shield yourself
35:49
and ground yourself and protect yourself in that
35:52
experience. So I know a lot of people who are
35:54
still. There are a lot of people who are still in
35:57
the. In person you ultimately chose to go
35:59
virtual. But while you were still in that space,
36:02
how did you come to understand how to stay
36:07
protected while working with other people?
36:11
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah, I remember one. As I was learning, I talked
36:17
to a few of my clients about it. I was like, man,
36:19
sometimes clients come in and I feel like. Like I
36:22
touch them, and if they're angry, I'm angry, and
36:25
they leave happy. And if I remember specifically,
36:29
like, there would be times when someone would
36:33
come in with something really severe, like cancer
36:35
or something, where they were just really down in
36:39
the dumps, low and in pain. And I would almost
36:45
feel. I would feel the pain in the exact same
36:48
spot that they were saying. And so I remember
36:50
just feeling like, what is this? This is so
36:52
weird. I don't want this. This feels icky, and it
36:56
just would feel heavy. Can you hear my baby
37:00
really loud in the back?
37:01
Meredith Oke: I can hear her very quietly, and.
37:03
Katelyn Simmons: It'S beautiful, so don't worry about it. It's so
37:06
weird to be away from her. Anyway, so I was
37:09
talking to some clients about it, and they were
37:11
like, well, just envision a white bubble around
37:14
you. I think, okay, that's cool. And I started
37:18
trying to do that, and I think it helped a
37:20
little, but I didn't totally understand, so that
37:22
was kind of the start. And then I started
37:24
learning more about grounding, and I started just
37:27
envisioning myself before I would go in to work
37:29
with a client. I'd envisioned myself having my
37:32
energy grounded deep into the earth. And that was
37:36
something that really helped me a lot. But it was
37:38
never really enough until that short period when
37:42
I learned about the emotion code and the AO scan.
37:45
And I was really seeing how, like, with muscle
37:49
testing, you can swipe, see if you can see your
37:53
governing meridian three times, the sweat, you
37:55
know, and clear energy off of you. And so now I
37:59
still do that to this day. If I walk past someone
38:01
and I feel something, I'm just like, get off of
38:04
me. And that really started helping. And then the
38:09
AO scan, there's frequencies you can run for
38:11
energetic clear and energetic shield. And those
38:14
made such a difference. It was, you know, those
38:17
last few months or couple months in my practice,
38:20
I started doing that every day, and it was just a
38:23
game changer. So.
38:25
Meredith Oke: So tell me a little more about the AO scan. I
38:27
don't know what that is.
38:28
Katelyn Simmons: Oh, okay. So the AO scan is a subscription that
38:32
you can have on your phone. You can log into it
38:34
from basically any device like, that connects to
38:37
the Internet, and it will transform your computer
38:43
or your phone into A frequency generator. So
38:46
you're familiar with bioresonance, Right. Where
38:48
you can get a scan. Like, I used to have a really
38:51
expensive one. You put your hand on it and it
38:53
would scan your whole body. And I'd have to be
38:55
with clients for like an hour and a half and to
38:58
see everything that's out of balance in your body
39:00
energetically. So it's not lab work. It's not.
39:04
It's like taking a picture in time, like a
39:07
snapshot in time to see where your body's
39:09
resonating at. So this goes from, you know, all
39:13
of your bones to your nerves, your mitochondria,
39:16
which I started geeking out about that once I was
39:19
in the course, the quantum course, because it was
39:22
like, whoa. Like, I can optimize my mitochondria
39:24
every day. So this is a little different from a
39:27
lot of bioresonance on the market, because you
39:29
can then optimize everything it scanned for that
39:32
was out of balance. So it's like, I don't pay
39:36
attention a whole lot to the reports. I just love
39:39
to put my body back into homeostasis every day.
39:42
And then on top of that, there's custom sound
39:45
therapy. So, like voice analysis. You can record
39:48
your voice and create sound therapy tailored to
39:51
exactly what emotions you need to release and
39:55
bring balance to which that was a huge piece.
39:58
That was like emotion code with. That was. I
40:01
mean, I felt like that's why I was clearing so
40:03
much so fast, because it was like, whoa, I'm. I'm
40:06
getting to the root of the emotions. And it's so
40:10
cool because it shows the physical connections
40:13
and the energetic connections to those emotions
40:15
that it found out of balance within your voice.
40:18
You know how people are so telling. Like you can
40:20
hear them talk and they're happy, or you can hear
40:23
them talk and you get depressed. You're like,
40:24
whoa. Like, I feel that this technology actually
40:29
picks up. It scans over 10,000 frequencies within
40:32
your voice to like, spit out these frequencies
40:35
for you every single day or however much you want
40:37
to do. So then there's the whole. You know,
40:40
there's so much. That's why I talk about it so
40:42
much on my page. And I have like hour long
40:44
YouTube videos on it. And, like, it's so in
40:47
depth. It's. It used to be a $38,000 practitioner
40:50
system. Like doctors and clinics have it.
40:54
Meredith Oke: Yeah.
40:54
Katelyn Simmons: But then I believe it was in 2021, Lauren
40:57
Swenson, who developed all of this, he had the
41:00
vision, and they had the vision to bring that
41:02
sound therapy part to everybody. Because, you
41:05
know, everyone was struggling in 2020.
41:07
Meredith Oke: Yeah.
41:08
Katelyn Simmons: And then they made it so now anyone can have
41:11
access to it. So there's so much more cool
41:13
subconscious reprogramming. There's a lot, but
41:17
that's what the EOS scan is.
41:19
Meredith Oke: That's really fun.
41:21
Katelyn Simmons: It is fun.
41:22
Meredith Oke: So that, yes, helped with your ability to stay
41:26
within your own energy and not take. Take on
41:29
whatever your clients were bringing in that day.
41:32
Katelyn Simmons: And I think shedding those layers of emotions
41:34
too, like just working on yourself, releasing
41:38
trapped emotions gives you the space where you're
41:41
actually, like, resilient. You're not, because,
41:43
you know, everything acts like a magnet. So if
41:46
you have, I don't know, 20 on the low side, 20
41:50
trapped emotions of fear, those are always going
41:53
to be attracting more emotions of fear or things
41:56
that vibrate at that same level. So if you have
41:59
all these trapped emotions of unworthiness,
42:02
sadness, depression, anxiety, like I had all of
42:05
these just bombarding me. And I remember working
42:08
through, I felt like I was like releasing
42:09
thousands of trapped emotions. It attracts more
42:14
of that into your life because you're. That's
42:16
where you're vibrating at. So as you raise your
42:17
frequency and you heal and just, you know, like,
42:20
we see people release parasites, right, when they
42:22
just. They just start doing the circadian stuff.
42:24
Like, just raising your frequency helps you shed
42:29
the negativity and the sickness and the disease
42:31
and the bad stuff, and you start to attract
42:34
different. And you. The stuff doesn't stick to
42:36
you.
42:38
Meredith Oke: It's so cool. It's also amazing. And it's, you
42:42
know, back to what we were saying earlier, right?
42:44
Like, if we had just some baseline understanding
42:47
of this, we could be clearing that stuff out as
42:51
we go. You know, it's like being like, oh, you
42:55
know, instead of like vacuuming once a year, it's
42:58
like, oh, I'm supposed to vacuum once a week.
43:00
Okay. Right. Like, you know, we, we allow these
43:03
things to build up because we can't see them. And
43:07
we, we've been left ignorant of. Of how to just
43:11
do maintenance that way. But it's. When I got
43:14
pregnant, it's not that complicated.
43:16
Katelyn Simmons: It's really not. But when I got pregnant, I was
43:19
like, I'm gonna start releasing all the inherited
43:22
trapped emotions this way. Because when you
43:24
release the inherited stuff, it releases in your
43:27
kids too, and your whole generational line and
43:30
started releasing them from my baby. I'm like,
43:32
once a week I just check, and there's really
43:34
nothing there. But it's just. It feels so cool to
43:37
be able to Set up a little human from the
43:41
beginning without coming in with all this baggage.
43:46
Meredith Oke: That's really beautiful. That's so beautiful. I
43:50
love that. So you brought up mitochondria. Talk
43:55
to me about, you know, like, let's sort of bring
43:58
it together with just daily habits and the
44:03
lights, you know, the light and dark cycles and
44:05
all of the circadian stuff. How have. How has it
44:08
all sort of come together for you? Because you
44:10
did. You did the deep dive. You studied, you got
44:13
certified, so you went all the way.
44:18
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah. So that was. That's. I think, what really
44:21
helped get my hormones. It just, like, tied it
44:25
all together. It was like, okay, these are the
44:27
things that are so foundational. It's like. It
44:31
brings you to the terrain theory. Like, if the
44:33
terrain is good and our hormones are, you know,
44:36
producing at the right times of the day, it just
44:41
all makes it, like. It's just cohesive. Your body
44:43
can now work. So. Learning about sun. The sun was
44:47
my favorite because, you know, Heather's program
44:50
on the sun. It was so. Because I've always loved
44:54
the sun. I've wanted to go bake in the sun for
44:56
hours on end, and I've, like, wanted to be out in
44:58
the morning. Like, it's just something I think
45:00
we're all born with intuitively. But then society
45:05
comes in and just kind of crushes it. Like,
45:08
you're. You get almost tuned into everything else
45:12
feeling good. Like, it feels good to sleep in and
45:15
feels good to look at your phone until it
45:17
doesn't. Until it, like, actually is wreaking
45:19
havoc on your health. So learning. I think the
45:23
first day I listened to that about sunrise, I
45:26
started going outside every morning, and it made
45:28
such a difference. It was like, whoa, I can feel
45:31
a difference. And I just craved to be outside
45:34
even more. And that was probably the biggest game
45:38
changer for me, was because I Learning about how
45:42
just that sunrise light, whether it's cloudy or
45:45
not or whatever the weather is, like, it sets you
45:49
up for the rest of the day where you're not
45:50
gonna. You know, you precondition your skin. You
45:52
build that solar callus. You set up cord, like,
45:55
cortisol. Like, I love talking about cortisol
45:57
because it's. We have these free tools you can
45:59
use to balance things. So I just started, like,
46:03
being out. I remember cold mornings. I'd bundle
46:05
up and sit outside with my coffee for, like,
46:07
three hours. Like, I'm gonna heal. I'm gonna heal
46:10
with sunlight even more. And that's just carried
46:14
through, like, the first couple days after my
46:18
baby was born, I would bring her outside, like,
46:20
every day. Like, we're getting sunlight, we're
46:22
getting. I still bring her out at sunrise. We go
46:24
out, like, every couple hours to get all the
46:26
white codes. And the only thing that's been hard
46:29
with a baby is wearing my blue light blockers.
46:32
That's been tough because she just wants them.
46:35
Meredith Oke: She just pulls them off your face. Yeah, that's
46:38
true.
46:38
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah. I still wear them at night, but when she's
46:42
asleep. Yeah, yeah. It's just. It's. It's. It's
46:48
life. And once you build the habit, it's a part
46:50
of your life. Like, it just. It's a part of your
46:53
life now. Like, you can't go any other way. And
46:56
grounding, like, every morning we go ground. It's
46:59
just turned into such a nice routine. And I think
47:01
that's actually really helpful for moms with
47:03
young kids is if you have this routine where you
47:05
get the sun, you ground, you go outside multiple
47:07
times, no matter what the weather is, or you
47:10
crack a window. Like, it really. I mean, maybe
47:14
it's just my baby's temperament, but she is so
47:16
happy all the time. And I can tell if we need
47:20
more sun or need to get outside or need to ground
47:23
if she starts to not be a little happy. And then
47:25
it's like, instant. We get in the grass, we get
47:28
in the sun, we go to the beach. Instantly, she's
47:31
just perfect again.
47:35
Meredith Oke: Wow, that's really interesting, because I know,
47:38
you know, for a lot of parents, it's like, oh,
47:40
I'll turn the TV on, or I'll give them a show.
47:43
Oh, they're a bit grumpy. Like, I'll just give
47:45
them a show to watch or.
47:46
Katelyn Simmons: I think that makes sense.
47:47
Meredith Oke: I definitely did that back in the day. But, yeah.
47:51
Oh, going outside a couple shows.
47:54
Katelyn Simmons: But the windows always open and the doors open in
47:57
short amounts of time. But I can see. I can see
48:00
that change her, too. So it's. I've almost, you
48:03
know, I go back and forth, like, should we watch
48:05
a little bit of something so I can drink my
48:07
coffee or. No, it's always better when we just go
48:10
outside. Yeah, but no judgment. It's there. It's
48:14
just. You can do these little things, like open
48:17
the window if it's on, or, you know, I want to
48:20
get a projector at some point, because that'll be
48:22
a little better, but.
48:23
Meredith Oke: Oh, that's a fun idea. Yes. And truly, no
48:28
judgment. My children all have screens, and, you
48:31
know, we live. We don't homeschool. We live in
48:34
the. In the prescribed prescription world of, you
48:40
know, normal society. And, you know, that's just
48:44
how we've chosen to do it.
48:46
Katelyn Simmons: And, yeah, it just shows how powerful it still
48:50
is, though. Like, you don't have to live some
48:52
hippie woo woo life for this to change your life.
48:55
And you don't have to, like, change your whole
48:57
identity and be a totally different. Like, that's
49:00
just who I am. I love being outside and I want to
49:02
homeschool. That's just me because I was
49:04
homeschooled when I was little. But no, not
49:07
everyone has to do that. It's so, like, just work
49:10
it into your schedule. Like, I loved when Carrie
49:13
would talk about just cracking the windows on her
49:14
way to school drop off or opening the sunroof
49:17
and, you know, popping on your blue light
49:19
blockers or wearing wired headsets instead of
49:21
Bluetooth and just all the simple little things
49:24
you can shift.
49:27
Meredith Oke: Yes. And when, you know, I think that's an
49:31
important message I always like to bring up is
49:33
every little thing matters. You know, going
49:35
outside in the morning for even five minutes,
49:38
even two minutes before other light hits your
49:40
eyes or, you know, not turning on those big
49:44
overhead lights after sunset. Like, just little
49:47
things. And one thing I hear a lot is people are
49:50
like, oh, I listen to your podcast, but I'm just
49:52
so overwhelmed at the thought of changing every
49:54
light bulb in my house. I don't think. I don't
49:56
think I can do this circadian thing. And I'm
49:57
like, oh, my gosh, if I left you with that
50:00
impression, the. My bad. Just don't turn them on.
50:04
It's very simple. You don't have to change
50:05
everything. Just have some lamps with
50:08
incandescent bulbs and don't turn on the big
50:10
lights. You don't have to because, you know,
50:12
we're all. We all have ceilings filled with those
50:15
LEDs that.
50:16
Katelyn Simmons: And a lot of us have husbands who think it's
50:18
really annoying for it to be dark. It's a fight
50:23
over here. So, you know, it's. It is what it. Not
50:27
all of our bulbs are changed. I've slowly changed
50:29
them. And he's like, why are these so dim? Did I
50:33
get any brighter? So it's. Just do what you can
50:37
and it's gonna help no matter what. Like, it's
50:42
not perfection. And that's like, it goes for
50:44
everything with health. It's not perfection. And
50:46
everything in your life, you cannot show up
50:48
perfect for anything. And if you try, you're just
50:52
gonna be depressed.
50:55
Meredith Oke: Right. It's another one of those traps that we
50:58
set for ourselves. Right. We're like, I am going
51:02
to play an unwinnable game, and I'm not allowed
51:06
to feel successful or happy until this unwinnable
51:09
game is won. But it's unwinnable.
51:13
Katelyn Simmons: And that's like. I don't know if you want to talk
51:16
about abundance at all, but, like, that's one of
51:18
the huge blocks to abundance. Like, we get so
51:21
caught up in what's next and what. What can I do
51:23
to, you know, if you're on social media, like, do
51:26
more posts and, like, all this perfection instead
51:29
of just enjoying where you're at now, doing what
51:31
you can now, knowing that it's good enough and
51:34
just, you know, everyone struggles with that. I
51:36
still struggle with that, but it's. It's so much
51:39
more enjoyable to go through life. And I think it
51:42
frees up your healing when you don't try to
51:46
control. Because it's like human nature is to
51:47
control everything and grip onto everything
51:50
really tightly. But as soon as you surrender,
51:53
it's like, the river can flow, everything can
51:57
work. And then, you know, I feel like the bad
52:01
stuff doesn't affect you as much.
52:03
Meredith Oke: Yes. And I find too, when you get in that flow,
52:07
then ideas come and we feel called to do things
52:12
that will require us to push ourselves a little
52:15
bit.
52:15
Katelyn Simmons: Yes.
52:16
Meredith Oke: But it's coming from this place of abundance, not
52:19
a place of, like, I have to do this.
52:21
Katelyn Simmons: Yes. And it's fulfilling and it's like your
52:24
passion. And it's like, it's so different. It's
52:27
so different. Like, it's. It is hard work to do
52:30
any of, you know, to change your life in any way.
52:32
It's hard work, but it's harder to stay where
52:34
you're at. In my opinion. It would have been a
52:37
lot harder if I would have just stayed where I
52:38
was at. I'd be. Yeah, it was hard work to get
52:42
where I am now, but so worth it. And not as hard.
52:46
Yeah, yeah.
52:48
Meredith Oke: Not as painful.
52:51
Katelyn Simmons: And so rewarding.
52:55
Meredith Oke: Yeah, it's amazing. Life is really cool. And I
53:00
love, you know. Yeah, I love this chat, like, and
53:03
coming into the mitochondria, you know, and the
53:08
idea of, like, clearing our emotions, clearing
53:12
toxic light. Right. Like these. These are all the
53:14
frequencies and these, these little.
53:18
Katelyn Simmons: These, these.
53:19
Meredith Oke: I don't even know. I saw Martin Picard, who does
53:24
a lot of really interesting mitochondrial
53:27
research and bioenergetics, and he was. He did a
53:31
post recently. He's like, we gotta stop with the
53:34
powerhouse of the cell. It's been 60 years. It's
53:37
not accurate. And I thought, okay, so what are
53:41
we? What's the new catchphrase? And so now I call
53:45
on everyone if we're. If we're gonna upgrade from
53:48
powerhouse of the cell, like what should we call
53:50
it? Because it encompasses everything. Right. As
53:54
you were saying. Right. Like strengthening our
53:57
mitochondria from physical practices like
53:59
grounding and reducing toxic light.
54:02
Katelyn Simmons: Oh.
54:02
Meredith Oke: Gives us energy for emotional healing which may
54:07
come. Which may come next. And that. That idea of
54:10
the nonlinear healing and people. You know, I've
54:12
had people reach out to me lately who said they
54:15
started with the circadian stuff and like their
54:17
sleep is worse and they're like, yeah. And it
54:22
turned out I had all this emotional work to do.
54:24
So it's just so interesting how our bodies.
54:28
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah, the whole layer thing. A layer cake. Yeah.
54:30
It's just I feel like too. People need to
54:34
remember as you heal, this is like a lifelong
54:37
journey. It's not a three week cleanse. It's not
54:40
a three month cleanse. This is lifelong. And we
54:44
weren't. It's not just our lifetime. We have to
54:46
look at everything that affected ourselves and
54:49
our mitochondria and our muscles and everything.
54:51
Our fascia, like the fascia is so complex. It's
54:56
like generational. It's multi. Generational
55:00
things that have affected us. And so we're
55:02
peeling back these layers. And sometimes when
55:04
your body gets that energy to actually be able to
55:08
address what's been underlying or hiding deep in
55:11
your tissues or in your organs, it's gonna be a
55:14
little painful and be a little frustrating
55:16
because now your body's like, oh, hey, I can
55:19
target this. I can clear this out. I can. You can
55:23
feel this emotion now, and it's just. It's just a
55:27
part of it.
55:29
Meredith Oke: Yeah. And I love what you just said. You can feel
55:32
this emotion now. Because I think so much of our
55:35
energy goes towards making sure we don't have to
55:38
feel certain things. And I've been really digging
55:41
in lately. I've been putting myself out there and
55:43
pushing myself to do things. And I'm like, oh,
55:45
but it's gonna make me feel. And I'm like, yep.
55:48
And it did. And you know what? It passes. It just
55:52
flows through. I think if I'm not trying to block
55:56
it or six seconds.
55:58
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah. For an emotion to pass. Yeah. But it can.
56:01
You know, but then it can trigger. You know, the
56:03
cool thing about trapped emotions is they talk
56:05
about how they're really energetically the size
56:07
of your fist, but when they get triggered, they
56:11
can blow up to the size of a balloon or a beach
56:14
ball energetically. And then that can kind of
56:17
create this trigger effect through your whole
56:19
body, triggering the rest of them. And so it can
56:22
feel so overwhelming when you first start, but it
56:25
does get easier and easier and easier the more
56:28
you let yourself feel, because then you can
56:31
actually feel in the moment when something's
56:34
happening too. Because that's actually how
56:36
emotions get trapped. We stuff it down and we
56:39
don't feel it, and we, like, we want to avoid it.
56:43
And that creates this cycle of just stuffing it
56:45
down, stuffing and stuffing, and, you know.
56:48
Meredith Oke: Yeah.
56:49
Katelyn Simmons: Creates this whole problem.
56:52
Meredith Oke: And then the problems begin or continue or get
56:56
worse or whatever. Oh, my goodness, Caitlin, it's
57:00
been so delightful to talk to you. I'm so glad we
57:03
got to meet and have this conversation before I.
57:08
You share sort of how people can find you. Is
57:11
there anything that else that you'd like to say
57:13
before we wrap up?
57:16
Katelyn Simmons: I don't know. I just. It's just all so good. I
57:19
feel like we could talk for hours. Like, there's
57:21
just so many different rabbit holes you can go
57:23
down and just. It's all so good. And quantum
57:28
biology is just. It's life changing. And I didn't
57:30
think that the emotional side of it really fit in
57:33
to the quantum biology. You know, back when it
57:35
was the two part course and then the second part
57:39
came in and Carrie was talking about Eileen, I
57:42
was like, oh, they know about Eileen McKusick. I
57:45
was so excited. Like, it was like, this does fit
57:47
in. It's all together. So I was like, am I
57:49
talking about the same stuff? Does this fit in
57:52
together? And then that kind of led me to looking
57:55
for trapped emotions specifically affecting the
57:57
mitochondria in my clients. And, like, looking at
58:00
it from this whole new lens of, like, how are
58:03
emotions affecting the circadian side of it, the
58:07
quantum side of it? And it just kind of turned
58:10
into this whole new, like, it is connected and
58:12
it's all important and we need to focus on all of
58:15
it.
58:17
Meredith Oke: Yeah. Oh, I love that. Yeah, for sure. No, it is
58:20
because it's. I mean, we. I think light's a great
58:23
way in because it's so misunderstood and ignored.
58:26
And it's just such an easy fix once you
58:29
understand the basics of it. But at the end of
58:31
the day, light is. Is frequency. Emotions are
58:34
frequency. It's all frequency. And it's trapped
58:36
in the. In the structured water in our bodies,
58:39
and it's doing all the things. And there's sound
58:43
and light and the motion code and all of it works
58:47
with the energy of our body as you so beautifully
58:50
laid out.
58:51
Katelyn Simmons: Yeah, yeah. And so many ways to address all of
58:54
that, too. Like, there's, you know, emotion
58:55
code's not the only way. There's breath, there's
58:58
sound bowls, there's somatic work. There's, like,
59:00
so many different avenues people can go down to
59:04
just start healing. And all of it's raising our
59:05
vibration and raising our frequency. So it's all
59:10
connected.
59:12
Meredith Oke: Yeah, I love it. And so where can people find
59:16
you, Katelyn?
59:17
Katelyn Simmons: The best place is probably my Instagram.
59:20
Aitlinsimmonsofficial, and that's where I'm most
59:23
active, like, in my DMs. I am on my Facebook, but
59:27
everything from Instagram just gets uploaded to
59:29
Facebook, so I'm not super active over there. My
59:32
YouTube's really not consistent yet, but I'm
59:35
planning to do more YouTube, so probably
59:39
Instagram.
59:41
Meredith Oke: Okay, great. So that's at Caitlin Simmons,
59:44
official on Instagram. And Kaitlyn is spelled K,
59:47
A, T, E, L, Y, N Simmons. S, I, M. Thank you so
59:55
much. This was delightful, and we'll have to do
59:57
it again. Thank you, Meredith, and
59:59
congratulations on one full year of being a mama.
1:00:03
Katelyn Simmons: Thank you. It's been the best.