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Embracing Perpetual Selection With FERDI From VANTA · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I'm thirty, I'm the drummer of Vans and yeah, today
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Perpetual Selection, our full length
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  Speaker 1: debut LP. Yeah. So super excited to be on this
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  Speaker 1: show with you, Chris and yeah, it's a pleasure and.
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  Speaker 2: Honor fantasy mate. Thanks for joining us today.
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  Speaker 3: Oh worries as you say, then, So released your debut album,
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  Speaker 3: Perpetual Selection a couple of weeks ago now back on
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  Speaker 3: March at that age.
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  Speaker 2: So how's the early reception been for it?
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  Speaker 1: Man? Surprisingly, up to now, like, it's been really good. Surprisingly,
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  Speaker 1: and again we always keep our expectations low as we
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  Speaker 1: always do, but yeah, man, there it's been really positive.
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  Speaker 1: And like just ongoing support we get from the local
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  Speaker 1: Perth scene as well has been amazing. So yeah, appreciate
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  Speaker 1: big shout out to all the fans and followers, and
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the promoters as well, Andrew and Brendan as well
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  Speaker 1: from Pornography for like blowing this thing up as well,
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  Speaker 1: along with Dicey as well. So prossly there's legends and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so so good man. We've only got like two negative
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  Speaker 1: reviews so far, but I can tell they're just not
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  Speaker 1: the extreme kind of crowd, but i't wan't to go
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  Speaker 1: off any names.
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  Speaker 3: So that's an emerging band, bro, Like, how do you
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  Speaker 3: measure the success of an album these days?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Is it online? Streams? Is it comments? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: How do you measure it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: A bit of everything, hey, a bit of everything? I
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  Speaker 1: would say definitely. The streaming numbers show that as well.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't checked again, but Jesse is usually in charge
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  Speaker 1: of like checking the stats, wowing the stats to me
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  Speaker 1: and things like that. He's a bit of the operations
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  Speaker 1: daddy in the van. So yeah, we've all kind of
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  Speaker 1: got our roles. I just kind of run around, run
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  Speaker 1: my mouse to do all the marketing. I'm the ideas guys,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah. Yeah, looks after all the finances and cash
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  Speaker 1: follow of the band. So yeah. But to answer your question, man,
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  Speaker 1: like so far so good, Hey, Like I think the
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  Speaker 1: views are still going up as well on YouTube and man,
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  Speaker 1: just the cross sharing in general. That's how we kind
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  Speaker 1: of know like we've done something right. Yeah, we didn't
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  Speaker 1: think like we'd be getting like shares here and there
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  Speaker 1: and whatnot, but like, so far, so good, man, and
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  Speaker 1: our inbox is still coming and hot. There's like people
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  Speaker 1: who want to sit down and how to talk to us.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's I say, can it dive a bit
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  Speaker 3: deeper into perpetual selection for us from reviewsical point of
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  Speaker 3: view and tell us what you're going for?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I mean the whole concept of the album,
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  Speaker 1: like we want to explore the darker side of humanity
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  Speaker 1: and just where we're heading in general, like you see
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  Speaker 1: all the things unfolding before our eyes and just around us.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, compared to our Gravemind era, our first EP,
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  Speaker 1: like we sort of like touched on that like more
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  Speaker 1: traditional euro mellow death sound. I would say, like the
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  Speaker 1: kind of the Gothenberg rioffs, the kind of like early
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  Speaker 1: Botoms sort of sound, and I'm mixed with like the
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  Speaker 1: Dahliest sort of nuance. But then I think with this album,
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  Speaker 1: because we wanted to explore more into that like core
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  Speaker 1: narrative about like collapse and rebirth and just where the
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  Speaker 1: society is heading in general. We wanted something more extreme,
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  Speaker 1: more aggressive, and the three of us, jesse Chen and myself,
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  Speaker 1: we all love black metal very much like we love
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  Speaker 1: the early Demi Borg year, the Belfer Belfer Goal sort
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  Speaker 1: of sound, the early like Behemoth riffs, Like I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: like Evan Gallian era up to like the Demi God right,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do Satanists. There's a bit of that like ambiance
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  Speaker 1: going on as well and some of the s FX.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, because of that coordinarrative, we just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: kind of push out more of our like darkness and
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  Speaker 1: aggression more into this record and tapping into more of
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  Speaker 1: our like modern influence as well. So like you probably
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  Speaker 1: hear a bit of like shadow of intent, the kind
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  Speaker 1: of like modern American death metal going on in there,
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  Speaker 1: and a bit of that wawn Ashore black and death
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  Speaker 1: course sort of vibe going in. But yeah, all in
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  Speaker 1: all the course out and still mellow death and just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like blending it in more with like modern influences.
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  Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, absolute, And I noticed there's no
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  Speaker 3: someone there either called perpetual selection, which suggests that it
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  Speaker 3: must have a bit deeper.
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  Speaker 1: Significant Yeah, so pretty much what I just touched on. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's sort of like because at one point, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us in metal heads like way more
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  Speaker 1: sensitive than you know, and it's why we do these things,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why we play death. It's one of these
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  Speaker 1: thoughts you have at three am at night when you're like, crap,
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  Speaker 1: the world's heading that way, So what's the fucking point?
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  Speaker 1: Like you could have been down in grief and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I realized we stopped making art. Then
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  Speaker 1: the people at the top, the bad guys winning at
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  Speaker 1: the top, are just perpetuating our suffering. Hence that kind
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  Speaker 1: of thought came through, and it's like it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: not natural selection anymore, it's like perpetual selection. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like holding the mirror to everything that's going on.
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  Speaker 1: That's what this album is. It's a mirror and a
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  Speaker 1: hammer to the reality around us. Yes, we now.
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  Speaker 2: Listening to music.
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  Speaker 3: Like one thing that sort of stands out to me
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  Speaker 3: anyway is like it's got a real cinematic type feel
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  Speaker 3: as well as the heaviness that you've got in there.
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  Speaker 3: So how difficult does it to blend that cinematic sort
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  Speaker 3: of element in through music like yours?
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  Speaker 1: Oh look, man, I think there's not really one answer
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  Speaker 1: for that, because everything just kind of happened as it went,
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  Speaker 1: Like everything just kind of flowed on, like from concept
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  Speaker 1: it's song to like having the song finish and then
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  Speaker 1: kind of blowing it out of proportion was sort of
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  Speaker 1: unintentional as well. But I think the three of us,
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  Speaker 1: and particularly myself being a being a creative professional, like
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  Speaker 1: I've worked in the brand and advertising space professionally like
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  Speaker 1: all my life, so I kind of have that brain
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  Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, it's more than just doing the music.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like put the visuals and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's at that point you're sort of like building a brand.
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  Speaker 1: So it all kind of flowed naturally, like I kind
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  Speaker 1: of guided the boys through it. But then also most importantly,
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  Speaker 1: it's like our chemistry together that's what matters most, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what kind of like brings everybody to the tables
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  Speaker 1: of One Man's Show. And then also like working with
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  Speaker 1: videographer Elliott Charleston, his a legend, like he's got a
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  Speaker 1: good creative brain as well, so he added on top
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  Speaker 1: of our ideas and kind of like wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: something more cinematic with the video clips, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: he went through our lyrics and then he kind of said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: these songs would actually work well visually and like kind
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  Speaker 1: of tying together. Like he mentioned like we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to directly show you the monsters and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: but he had ideas of like, you know, with everything
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  Speaker 1: going on, like, hey, let's get a bunch of kids
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  Speaker 1: trying to survive and to post a apocalyptic dystopian sort
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  Speaker 1: of fusion. And I was like, yeah, that's a fucking
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  Speaker 1: great idea. Sorry, Yeah, man, I think it's just everybody
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  Speaker 1: on board and just have it, putting all the creative
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  Speaker 1: brains in one little bubble and just kind of let
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  Speaker 1: it do what it needed to do. That's how we
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  Speaker 1: got there. And yeah, wouldn't I wouldn't say it's hard
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  Speaker 1: trying to give that cinematicness to everything. But there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of steps. It's just a lot of planning and
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  Speaker 1: like thinking and just brainstorming.
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  Speaker 3: Right, We're sort of touched on this before, Broy, But
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  Speaker 3: your music blends the melodic death metal with modern American
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  Speaker 3: death metal.
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  Speaker 2: There's an early euro death metal there as well.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you find the balance between all that
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  Speaker 3: in the creative process?
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  Speaker 2: Like, how do you know when you're going too far
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  Speaker 2: in one diuration?
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  Speaker 1: That is a very good question. We never really thought
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  Speaker 1: about it, but look, I think the three of us
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  Speaker 1: kind of wanted to create a world of its own
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  Speaker 1: for each song, and I think knowing the narrative knowing
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  Speaker 1: what the song is going to represent kind of drove
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  Speaker 1: the other factors musical factors in there, and how we
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  Speaker 1: wanted like one thing more rather than the rest and
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  Speaker 1: kind of like not overpowering each other the musical elements on.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's where it all comes wrong. I think
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  Speaker 1: that the narrative really drives with a song is structured
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  Speaker 1: and how the production is done.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've got an album launch show and home shout
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  Speaker 3: of Birth this Friday, March of twenty seventh at The
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  Speaker 3: Milk Bar with Alisa king Zog and crowdbone Mates.
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  Speaker 2: So tell us about that.
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  Speaker 1: Shaw, Yeah, so yeah, that's the album launch celebration. We've
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  Speaker 1: got our boys, our brothers from Alisair co headlining with us,
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  Speaker 1: which is pretaking awesome. We love those guys, like always
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  Speaker 1: a good time playing with them. And yeah, it's hosted
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  Speaker 1: by Honography Crunch Entertainment, which Andrew runs and Brendan from
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  Speaker 1: All This Hills. He's kind of like his co partner
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  Speaker 1: as well, So like, yeah, they're really just kind of
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  Speaker 1: came down and helped us out and we've always got
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  Speaker 1: like a good relationship with them, so like when they
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  Speaker 1: heard about this, they were like, hey, let's blow this
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  Speaker 1: hornography out. It's not like your tyfficult local minography. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then again I said, like with Dicey kind of supporting
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  Speaker 1: us as well, we kind of made that happen with
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  Speaker 1: honography guys, And yeah, dude, I think it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be fun, and like we just want to kind of
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  Speaker 1: create a safe space and a world of each song
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  Speaker 1: physically live there and have people tap into, enjoy themselves,
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  Speaker 1: get loose and yeah, say hello and come make some
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  Speaker 1: new friends.
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  Speaker 3: Nice And where can people go to get to gets
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  Speaker 3: to the show or to get a copy of the
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  Speaker 3: album Sticks?
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  Speaker 1: So you type and google pornography twenty seventh of March Perth,
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  Speaker 1: to a band website, ban to netleofficial dot com, it's
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  Speaker 1: up there as well, and all in our social pages
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  Speaker 1: and pnographies and all of the other bands that are
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  Speaker 1: on that pill. So yeah, go follow them, Go go
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  Speaker 1: has so many good talent.
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  Speaker 2: Here, fantastic brother.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thanks for your time today, Broth with the pleasure
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  Speaker 3: Speak with your Perpetual Selection is out now. The show's
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  Speaker 3: on this Friday, night and hopefully we see over on
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  Speaker 3: this side of the world, not coming.
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  Speaker 1: Fake at eight for sure, Matte Brisbane, Queensland, Sydney like
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  Speaker 1: hopefully we get there soon. And yeah, I would love
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  Speaker 1: to have a beer with you, buddy,