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#1 Recapping Last Season and Looking Ahead · Draft Offsides Podcast

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Hello and welcome to episode one of Draft Offsides.
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I'm here with Tico and Enzo. My name is Keith.
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In this podcast we will be primarily covering the English
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Premier League through the lens of our fantasy draft league, but
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we're aiming to talk in broad terms.
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So if you enjoy the pram, just enjoy soccer.
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You should find this entertaining.
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Enzo Tico, How we doing this morning?
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Doing good. I'm awake.
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Ready to go. Bad football, you know, I love
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football so and I think we got. We can talk stuff about how the
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Premiership's going trades all that fantasy.
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Obviously the goods isn't bad of it, so looking forward to it.
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Same excited, essentially. It seems like we're making our
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group chat into a podcast, pretty much talking it and just
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ends. I just realized what you're
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wearing. Just try not to lean back as
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much as you can. Just lean forward so we don't
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see the Tottenham. Crest on your chest.
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We don't want that and we should say obviously because Enzo,
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Tottenham fan, Keith. Chelsea.
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Yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't know how much
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bias. Yeah, I'm a big Chelsea fan.
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Tico's a little bit of a neutral in the Premier League as a Real
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Madrid fan. But I don't know, do you have a
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do you have a team that you support?
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Tico specifically? I'm.
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Not really. Teams are like rooting against.
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So let's kind of get into it. I guess we can talk about we got
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last year we had a fantasy draft league and we got we really just
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had a lot of fun just like talking shit to each other just
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like really just getting into it.
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And so we thought we'd just talk about it online and see how it
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goes. I guess the big thing is there's
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like, the way fantasy draft works is kind of like how
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fantasy football works, where you have a you draft individual
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players and each team has specific players.
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And there's another type of fantasy called, I don't even
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know what it's called, but it's where you like auction players.
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And that one's just, I feel like this is not as fun and this is
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just such a more compelling way to do fantasy sports.
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So this is kind of what we're gonna focus on and what we're
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into. And, yeah, I guess, But the
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first thing we can do is we can talk about, like last season a
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little bit. Yeah.
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It was interesting to look at the draft from last season and
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then think about, like, wow, like some of these pics are just
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so silly. But at the time, like everything
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makes sense when you're you know.
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It's like, honestly, when I was looking at because the link you
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did send this, it shows the players I ended up with and I
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think I lost like half my drop. Yeah, I think that's pretty
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standard. You know, it's like you're
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gonna, you're gonna draft and you're gonna, you know, you're
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gonna like just things are just shit's gonna happen, you know
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and like you're gonna have to drop players.
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I think the idea that you just wanna like try and like the
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first few rounds you really wanna just do well and like not
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not make like mistakes. And then from there it's just
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kind of, it's gonna be a shit show for like probably like 6-7
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on I guess. All right.
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So kind of looking at our draft last year, the very first pick
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off the board was Enzo and he picked.
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Harry Kane, which I think, I think at the time, Terry Kane
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was not the number one, like not the consensus #1 pick.
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So there's a little bit of like a.
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Like, well, I'm gonna tell you right now it's off color pick.
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It was a bias pick on my part but I don't think it was an
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offset. I think Harry Kane in a lot of
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leagues should have been picked number one.
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I'm pretty sure. Wasn't it the last season he had
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where he had the the goals an assists.
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I know Sun got Golden Boot, but yeah, right.
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Yeah, because he dropped a little deeper.
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And so he was playing in that kind of like that 10 roll.
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A little more and that allowed fun to have an amazing season.
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But sure enough, though, what's funny is that the Hurricane did
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end up finishing. Yes, and that's the first time.
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Funny feelings, yes. So that was that a pick?
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Well. Thank you, Sir.
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Appreciate well achieved one of our own, so that out.
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So number two was a guy, Frankie in our draft and he picked
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Mohammed Salah, who I think was widely considered the number one
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pick. And what he ended up, I think,
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at the beginning of the season was so bad for Liverpool that
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you kind of forget that by the end of the season they're
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actually, yeah, doing pretty. Well, again, he had a he didn't
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have his best season, whether it was at the beginning or at the
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end. So I will, honestly, even with
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this new season coming up. I don't think he's gonna do much
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better. I think he's still gonna score
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goals. I think it's gonna be better.
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But with the addition of McAllister, McAlister takes
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penalties, so does he take the penalties and that just takes
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away points away from Sala. So I don't know.
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Yeah, I guess it's a question of first, Sala.
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It's like, is it, is it just him getting older and the team
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getting worse or do you think it was just an offseason?
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But you also have to think too, the midfield is better, right?
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Like the midfield's gonna be better with these new guys for
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Liverpool. So is that gonna then allow
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solid to get better score positions.
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But he's also, he's a year older so but he had so solid drafted
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second he ended up finishing seventh, which isn't the worst.
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It's not like a disaster, you know.
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Definitely didn't like lose, It definitely didn't like lose.
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That's not the reason Frankie's. No, You know, look, pick second,
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he's still in the top 10. Is that?
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Is that a loss or is that a win? Cuz when you pick that, that
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first, second, third pick, they're gonna be your best
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players all the way through. There's that saying.
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You know, there's a saying like you don't.
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You don't win your draft in the first round, but you can lose it
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in the first round. I think a pick like solid.
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There's a pick like solid, like he didn't lose.
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He didn't lose his draft because of that round.
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It's yeah, it's also easier to draft a player when they've been
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on the same team, same manager, no big changes, same position.
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So it's a safe pick. I mean the same thing with Kane.
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You know what he's gonna do? Same thing with Mosala.
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I mean, down years happens, but I you can't blame him for taking
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second 100%. Yeah, he's happy.
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So moving to 3rd in our draft, it was me and I picked Kevin
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Bruin and yeah, I was super. I was super happy to get him
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third. I felt like that was like a
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total steal. And when you look at points per
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points per start, he's like up there with the highest.
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His issue is that he just does. He and most players on Man City
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only start like 20. Some games, like there's very
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few players that started 30 plus games.
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Yeah, that's the danger of drafting anyone from Man City,
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even Holland. He would have games.
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I had him, as we could see, later on.
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Where he, you know in the first half they he scored like a hat
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trick, so second-half they would just bench him and you don't get
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the maximum amount of points for this.
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I think it's 60 minutes played for you to get an added point
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points. So that's the Man City effect.
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Injuries, age and like you said, the rotation.
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He's gonna get rotated a lot more for the big game, so he's
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gonna be saved for those big games.
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So those games against like Lou and Tan are coming up, he
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probably won't play in those games, like he won't play League
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Cup games. He'll be saved for Champions
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League, for the Premiership. Those are the big.
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Do you think the, like, I look at City now and I think about
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like the players they've lost and they haven't brought in a
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lot of people. Do you think they're gonna bring
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in some new guys? Knowing offense.
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What are you gonna see? But he's got some kids in there
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still pouring, a couple of kids at the end of the season that
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did really well, That one winger, The defender.
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So he'll replace one of them first.
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And if they don't work, guess what?
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They'll throw some money at it. It is what it is.
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Yeah. So I mean, I was having KDB,
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ended up finishing sixth. I was super happy even though
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you know 6. Not ideal, but his points per
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start were so good, so as long as I had other players that
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could cover, I felt really good coming in his.
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He was ranked 3rd and points per points per game ranked 3rd,
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right behind Harry Kane. Yeah, so super.
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Yeah. Seemed like that was like a
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pretty on point pick. Coming in fourth was a little
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bit of a reach. We, I think we all kind of
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laughed when it happened. Was Gabriel Jay Z's.
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But you know, it's funny though, it's the start to the season.
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We were all, we were all giving this guy a hard time when he
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dropped it on. But the start of the season, he
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looked really good. Like before he got injured, we
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were like, oh, shit, right. Was that kind of the general
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consensus? No, that was the general.
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Consensus man. He just Arsenal.
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Fancy who you know. No one doubted how good he was.
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But could he do it? Arsenal was a risk.
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That was a risk Pick in my being at #4.
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And maybe if he didn't get injured it might have worked out
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for him. But honestly, even when he got
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back, it just he died out before he got in.
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Do you, are you guys, are you guys kind of bullish on him for
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the season? Yeah, I'm not like, how do you
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feel? About how do you feel about this
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season, ever season, and that's not cuz I'm a Tottenham fan,
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That's because I don't. I pick him up, gonna be early
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third round, late third round. If he's still around, which he
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ain't probably gonna be, yeah. Really.
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No I would say end of second let's say if you have the top
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2-3 pick and it's a snake draft so and the second round or early
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3rd I think it'd be still because he he was top 20 points
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per per start. It was.
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I'm looking at at that right now it's 12.88 and when he came back
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from his injury he was I feel like he had a hard time getting
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back into the team because they were doing so well.
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But but again I feel like Jesus does also have a a history of
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injury injuries so. That is the risk with drafting
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him as well. But yeah, he he got off to a
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rocking start the whole team. Arsenal like they were scoring
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goals. He was, he was having assists,
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you know, unselfish players. So you know we have a couple of
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Arsenal fans in our fantasy, so I'm sure he's not gonna be there
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in the that late. Yeah, I bet you he'll go at the
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end of the first beginning of the second.
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I just, I think just I think that the issue is like forward
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scarcity. So once you like get past like
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the Holland King Sala like who else is there that's in that
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that forward position that really is like guaranteed locked
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in for a lot of a lot of spots. So yeah so we were just talking
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about he he was drafted forth. He finished 32nd.
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But as Tiko was saying his points for a game where it's not
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bad like the the he was, he was still scoring points when he was
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in. It was just he had that long,
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long. I mean, how many games did he
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play? Play 20 plus games, but. 26
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Yeah, it's a lot more than I thought.
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He finished with eleven goals, 6 assists.
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So you'd like to see more goals from her first round pick and
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more assists obviously, but he only, he finished in what, 32nd
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place total total points. So I think those games hurt on
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and I think, yeah, later in the season he was subbing in and
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being subbed out a little bit more because they had, you know,
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they had other players to fill those roles.
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So then drafting 5th was Tico and he drafted early Holland,
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which in hindsight was the steal of the first round.
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Probably. The highest points per game, the
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multiples. You know, honestly, I was
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surprised, I knew Harry Kane would go because of Enzo, that I
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was so surprised when he was on there.
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Yeah. I mean, it's funny now to look
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back and be like, oh, like obviously, like, like, so done.
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But like the time. Do you remember?
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A lot of the conversations were like, oh, how are you going to
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adjust? Like the way that pet pet does
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team in the past is that like, players won't play.
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Players don't just come in immediately.
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A lot of times they get like eased in over like a season
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sometimes. So there was a little bit more
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uncertainty. But like now when you look back
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on, it's like, Oh yeah, of course.
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Yeah, I was one of the ones doing that.
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I was one of the ones saying he did it in Dortmund.
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Who cares? We'll see what he can do in the
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Premiership. That purchase more physical,
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etc, etc, etc. Gaining in 50, going lower,
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first or second this season? No.
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Harry Kane will be First off the board.
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Honestly. Yeah.
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Only ended up finishing second he.
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Behind who Keith? Second behind.
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Oh, behind Harry Kane. Oh yeah, Second behind Harry
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Kane. Yeah.
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But here's the question with Harry Kane, just while we're
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just real quick, while I'm thinking about it is, do you
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guys is there any fear that if Tottenham are not doing well
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come January, let's say he stays.
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If Tottenham's not doing well come January, do they?
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I do. They sell him and try and get
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something for him. Do you know how he's gonna
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struggles? You know he's gonna be there,
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you know he's gonna be delivering.
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But if the team's doing bad and Andrew has to call, glue doesn't
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work as the new coach. And like, I could see him, I
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could see him being sold in January and then and then it's
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like, you're so you're so screwed.
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If he gets sold in January, which like you said depends on
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the scenario. Tottenham are going back down to
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the medieval times where we stayed mediocre. 12th, 8th.
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That's the position we're going to be in.
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Gonna take a while to rebuild from there.
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If Harry Kings will score goals and if you're going to pick him
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up. And you're right, if you do,
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pick him up early and he gets gone.
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And who else did that last year? Cristiano Ronaldo.
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Few players left in January where you bore him and then they
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just up and left. So it's a risk, but you gotta
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assess where your teams at and what teams are doing.
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But honestly, the way Levy's looking, he's not going to sell
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him. If he does, he's going to sell
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him the last day before the of the transfer window.
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If he doesn't, I don't think he sells him.
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I think we let him go for free. All right.
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So it's not a little sidebar but hopping back.
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So Holland drafted 5th by Tico, ended up finishing second,
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started the season unbelievable like the beginning like he
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really he kind of tailed off at the end but I think that's kind
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of expected in a long season with Champions League.
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Those are the things. It'll be interesting to see what
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his second season looks like in the Premiership.
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So then going to six son hongming in, he was, he had like
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the best season of anyone the year prior right.
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So he was up there like absolutely phenomenal and I
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think even dropped at six was probably he dropped a little bit
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to go 6. I think every I think we all
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kind of I think Edwin in our draft kind of knew like OK that
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could he be better like is is it.
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You know, I think there was this fear that that was about as good
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as it gets for him. And what is it gonna look like?
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What is it gonna look like with like just a new like with Kane
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just kind of in there and and just with him, with Kane kind of
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firing in a different way. And yeah, I'm actually kind of
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excited for him to see what he does this year with this new
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coach and everything. But it was, he was definitely
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and he had a pretty rough season.
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Right. So this was probably one of the
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ones that really hurt for for Sergei, drafting him six.
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He ended up finishing 23rd. So just just not the return you
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wanted. This is like talking about like
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losing and it's just kind of, you know, you think it's a safe
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pick. But.
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Yeah, we had a we all know he had a terrible start to do.
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But if you actually look at his last, I think it's both games.
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His points per game during that was substantial.
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He actually improved and finished the the season really
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strong. So that that is, you know, a
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positive if you want to pick him up in the top 10.
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Still, I don't think he drops slower than top ten.
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He'll still get picked up in the early second round latest I feel
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he's going to get you assists, he's going to get you dribbles,
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pass completion, he's going to get you a few goals, but is he
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going to get you, you know, 15 goals in a season?
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That that's the question. And if you pick he is, he's your
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top ten pick. But if you don't think he's
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gonna score, do that. I'll get you 5 assists along
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with it. You don't pick it up until the
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second round. Yeah, I agree.
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Moving on to 7th, Bruno Fernandez, we had a few, we had
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a few Arsenal fans, a few few United fans.
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So he went 7th. I had no issue with that.
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I thought that was probably the right place for him to go.
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Was that the year, the year before Cristiano Ronaldo came?
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He was like sensational. And then Cristiano Ronaldo came
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and he dropped off like crazily because his production, I think
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just Ronaldo just demanded so much attention in that team that
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everyone else really struggled. But you saw it with Fernandez
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when Ronaldo left that he was just back to being like the man,
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scoring the goals, creating these chances, just doing
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everything. He ain't gonna go that low this
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season. If he don't go top five this
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season, I'll be very surprised. Yeah, he finished fourth and I a
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lot of like a lot of people are thinking she might go one
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depending on I I personally think you probably go 3rd, 3rd,
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4th, but. He's gonna give up, man, and
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with the signings United's doing.
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Mason mounts give him full, full opportunity, push up more and
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not have to drop back and grab that.
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But when he's gonna have penalties now, like every week,
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week in, week out. So he gives you a lot.
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He gives you a lot. Yeah, that's huge.
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Penalties is is a huge thing to have.
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You know this. Yeah.
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I think as we just said too Mason Mount's gonna push Bruno
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Fernandez further up the field because he'll be playing in more
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of an 8 probably And so let Bruno Fernandez just be more of
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like a 10 where he can be more creative.
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So I think that's a I think he's a very exciting pick this season
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to see what he does. Going 8th in our draft was
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Cristiano Ronaldo. I I didn't even look.
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I just put, did not finish DNFI don't know.
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I don't even know where he. I don't even know what his final
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ranking was because if you don't know he got, he was he got
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January transfer window went to Saudi Arabia started that whole
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trend. Yeah, I mean the other thing too
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is when he scored eighteen goals the previous season.
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Yeah, so. But it it it wasn't like, it
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wasn't like team goals. It is like I said this and I
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think I'm thinking a few of us said this, He's not the one to
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bring Man United out of the trenches.
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He wasn't. They brought him in because they
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didn't want him to go see and honestly, that guy didn't want
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to. He went to a Man United team
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that was. So he in trophies and he wasn't
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going to do that Man United at that time.
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So him leaving wasn't a surprise to me, you know, being picked up
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by. Who's that, Who's that there?
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Yeah, sorry, take that choice. Yeah, I think it was one of the
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things where you could like try and justify it by stats being
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like over 20 tingles when you looked at like, you know the did
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he pass the eye test And they looked so bad.
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Every time he played, it just looked like it just wasn't going
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to be the way that Ted Hogg wanted to do it.
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Nope. And then going ninth was Riad
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Marez from Hakeem. It's very it's like I don't I
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want. To know why he thought Rio Marez
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was gonna get him so many points cuz Rio Marez doesn't even
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start. Like I know Mansi is a rotation
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team, but you guys gotta be careful when drafting these
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players. Yeah, they look good cuz you've
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seen highlights, but do they play like 25 games at least a
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season? Cuz if he's if he's coming off
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the bench 20 games you're not gonna get that much.
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I thought that was that was a reach in my opinion.
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I think it's, you know, I think especially this year.
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So Marez, I think had a good season the year prior, but this
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year like you're barely getting games in so.
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Yeah, especially if you're going the third player from Man City.
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I feel like he's not the best option.
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And especially on the team that deep, I feel like there was
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definitely like other players they could have drafted.
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Like I know Grillish probably played better than anyone else
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expected, but. When you give up 100, what was
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100 million for a player, you know he's gonna get his minute.
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So I probably would have gotten Grievish, did you say Hindshead
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as well? But Mars, the player doesn't
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start, hasn't really been amazing for Man City.
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He's been there for a few years. That was, yeah, that was a that
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was like you said, I feel like he lost.
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It was a big loss on this part, yeah.
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And he it kind of showed. I mean, dropped 9th, finish
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50th. Hakeem was pretty much pretty
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out of it from the start this season.
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Even though he had a few decent picks in the mid rounds it just
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wasn't. I think not having that like
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rock on your for your team that you could you just knew was
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gonna start every week and contribute.
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It's made it hard and then dropped it. 10th was Raheem
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Sterling. I think at the time I don't
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think anyone felt like this was a bad pick, right?
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Like I thought like end of the end of the first getting Raheem
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Sterling for Chelsea, which would've been decent.
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That, you know, in hindsight this was total fiasco.
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You know what, he didn't have a bad start to the season.
20:42
I just think that things just started creeping up on Chelsea
20:45
and they couldn't get it together.
20:49
Sterling, if you remember the 1st 8 to 10 games, he was
20:53
scoring game editions. It was the fact that they
20:56
couldn't glue together the Chelsea team and it just started
20:59
to fall apart that was a problem.
21:02
Well, I thought it was a good pick at at 10th.
21:04
That's not bad. I'm curious to see where
21:05
Sterling goes this season. Like he's he's not in the top,
21:10
he's not in the first two rounds, not in the third round,
21:13
but then it's he, is he like a steal when you if you get him
21:16
early 4th or something Because you know, like people like
21:19
Chelsea's gonna have to score goals.
21:20
Like there's people on Chelsea, they're gonna score goals like
21:23
they're they're gonna be better than they were last year.
21:25
There's no way they won't be better.
21:26
Than they were. That sounds like a Chelsea fan.
21:30
It's like a 12th play. Like, there's just no, I mean,
21:32
I'm not even, I'm like not optimistic at all about this
21:36
season. But I know that they're going to
21:37
be better than 12th plays, and I feel like I'm not being like a
21:40
Homer when I say that. Look, there's been a lot of
21:44
change in the Premiership. Pacettino, love that man, hate
21:48
that man. Going to Chelsea, he's going to
21:50
be. It's going to be changing.
21:51
He's going to, he's going to go with the youth.
21:53
You've got some young players in there, you guys are already
21:55
overhauling, so Chelsea is going to be.
21:59
Giving up players to your rivals, it's pretty ballsy.
22:03
Maybe you guys got a plan, but yeah, I don't think Chelsea will
22:06
do watching 12 this season, but we'll suddenly be a main part to
22:10
bring them to the back into the top five.
22:12
I don't think it's going to have to be Modric in my opinion.
22:17
That guy's young talent. He has to lead the way, but he
22:21
just hasn't had any good games. I I would not.
22:24
Draft Sterling because last year, six goals, three says
22:29
doesn't. Especially with the young talent
22:31
they have on that team. I feel like you have to look at
22:34
the project move forward as well and the Sterling play factor in
22:37
it. I really don't think so so and
22:42
he's been playing for a while so you how old is he?
22:45
He's 30 plus, right? Yeah, yeah, the speed is in the
22:51
same. I know before he was consensus
22:55
like top first round pig, but I personally would not draft him,
22:59
would not want him, especially in the top 4 rounds.
23:03
I would not four or five, Definitely not touching it.
23:07
Now what I was saying before, I just want to get this pointed.
23:09
I wasn't saying fuck you. I wasn't saying a rotation
23:14
player for Chelsea, for Sterling, us.
23:17
Do you pick a rotation player for your squad, your fancy
23:20
football team? Do you think that you should be
23:23
doing that? Should you be hoarding those
23:25
forwards and everything, or should you be getting those
23:27
strong midfielders? Maybe even a good defender
23:30
because they're they're freaking not really in there And if you
23:34
don't know how the point scoring goes where cheats, tackles, 1
23:38
balls intercepted, what players that she do out on a basic.
23:41
But do you pick Sterling who maybe you've already picked the
23:44
forward. Yeah, I think that's valid.
23:45
I think you that's actually a really good point that in the
23:47
fourth round you need to start thinking about your team
23:50
construction a little more. So depending, you know, maybe if
23:53
you went Trent, if you would got a forward and a defender in the
23:56
first few rounds and you need some mids, yeah, it's kind of
24:00
ends up when we lost you, I was kind of saying that the the one
24:03
thing with Sterling is that I think the Chelsea wingers are
24:05
young and he's a veteran and consistent and he's very high
24:09
paid and I think he will get playing time.
24:12
I don't know what he does with it.
24:13
I don't know how how that team will line up.
24:15
So there's definitely a lot of question marks, like kind of
24:17
what Tiko was saying earlier about players where you, you
24:20
know, like Sala and stuff like, you know that they're on the
24:23
same team, same coach. You know what they're gonna do.
24:26
I don't. We didn't get an answer from
24:28
Sterling last year about what he's gonna do and what that
24:29
team's gonna look like. I also don't see him playing a
24:32
lot of 90 minute games. Like I don't see him.
24:35
Yeah, he's gonna be stuffed off just to bring one of the younger
24:40
guys for a change of pace or if it's not starting, bring him
24:42
like the last 20 minutes, bring some better and presents.
24:46
So and when you're building a fantasy team like you have a
24:49
Sterling or if you have someone else like you know, you know
24:51
he's going to get 90 minutes, the goal scoring opportunity
24:54
probably not might not be as high but with the Sterling you
24:57
don't know if he's going to get 20 minutes, thirty minutes.
24:59
So that those are the tricky things when setting you know
25:02
your lineups and I personally prefer players that I know are
25:06
going to get the minutes. And that are that come from
25:10
teams that are not too deep. And Chelsea has, they bought
25:14
everyone last year so they have a lot of players at the same
25:16
positions. Very fair.
25:18
Very valid I think. Yet Sterling dropped the 10th.
25:22
It ended up finishing 108th. So aside from Cristiano Ronaldo
25:26
that was probably the worst pick in the first round, I would say.
25:29
All right so that was our that was our top ten from last year.
25:35
I think in maybe a future episode we'll start to talk
25:37
about rankings for this season would be, but we can get there
25:41
eventually. I think there's still so much to
25:43
shake out in the Premier League with transfers and stuff.
25:45
It's kind of hard to start locking it down too much now,
25:47
but I kind of wanted to do something funny.
25:49
I don't know, but just kind of like I want each of you.
25:53
I want each of us to compliment another person's pick in our
25:56
draft. So like force compliments, Cuz I
25:58
know none of us like to give each other any props.
26:01
So what was so like? Well how about Enzo?
26:03
We'll start with you Tikka. What was a good signing that
26:06
Enzo made or a good pickup that Enzo made in his draft?
26:10
So I think the easiest one. I think he got McAllister in the
26:12
14th round, ended up with 300 plus points.
26:16
So getting someone. That late and having a put up
26:21
that type of points, I think it's pretty amazing.
26:23
When I was going through, you know, looking at the points
26:25
total, I feel like anything you score over 300 points is a good
26:28
player. And getting someone a player of
26:31
that caliber on the 14th round, I thought that was a really good
26:34
pick up on Enzo's part. And that was very surprising
26:37
because Enzo doesn't really make a lot of smart moves.
26:41
But so there it is. Yeah, this.
26:46
Man. Had the Had the highest score
26:50
scoring claret, but his team scored the lowest points, yeah.
26:57
That's fucking painful. No, I think that was a really.
27:02
I think anything in the late like the last few rounds are
27:04
such dart throws. So you just like if you can hit
27:06
on one of those, which you did, you totally hit the hit the
27:10
lottery with McAlister there, I think ends up for me, it would
27:14
be obvious like maybe your first pick, just like being ballsy,
27:17
going Hurricane, getting the highest scoring player.
27:19
It wasn't. You know, sometimes it's hard to
27:21
buck the trend of what everyone's telling you.
27:22
Who should be the first pick. Do you want to pack yourself on
27:25
the back at all? Are you just feeling?
27:27
No, I'm actually looking. I've actually looked at my
27:29
draft. First pick, I love it.
27:31
Second pick, what the hell was I thinking?
27:33
Andrew Robertson matters. Great pick, especially at
27:37
Leicester. He's the main man there, so he's
27:38
gonna give me points. Four pick.
27:40
What the hell was I thinking? Was that Rhodri?
27:43
Yeah. We'll get there.
27:44
We'll get there. We'll get there.
27:45
Let's just let's go over to Chico.
27:48
Yeah, he was drafted from the fifth position.
27:54
I'm gonna say Kieran Trippier, Cuz.
27:56
I didn't think he was gonna have that great this season and
27:58
picking him up in the fifth round, he was like top scorer of
28:02
top, top in points for like half the season, wasn't he?
28:06
Picking him up in the fifth round was was golden.
28:09
I I I can't even like I was gonna try and contribute one as
28:12
well but that's just that was such a good signing that was
28:16
such a good pickup. I think the other one that I was
28:17
looking at was White McNeil and 12th.
28:20
He ended up being like a top 30 player and kind of similar to
28:23
McAllister if you can get someone that's that ended up did
28:25
McAllister in the what the 14th, White McNeil and the 12th.
28:28
It's like you got a guy that scored 200 and 5300 points.
28:32
Getting to get him that way and it's just like a consistent guy.
28:35
You don't have to think about it.
28:36
Not a lot of, not a lot of drama just went in there and scored
28:39
like just got you weekly points. I thought those were the two two
28:43
strongest guys. Got any compliments for me?
28:48
Pony man, What a freaking pickup #5 again.
28:52
Anything off the five that can get you Max points.
28:56
I haven't had a great season. Did he miss?
28:58
I don't think he missed the penalty.
29:01
So yeah, I haven't. Tony, like He had a great, great
29:03
season. He's not gonna have a great
29:06
season this season, obviously, but for that season that was a
29:10
good pick. Keith, for for you.
29:13
I think I mentioned this before during the during the season as
29:16
well. Mitrovic, especially the start
29:18
he got off to, which gave you the cushion that you were in
29:21
first place. And I I remember every time I
29:24
was looking at their games he was scoring, he was involved.
29:27
I feel like he got off to a hot start.
29:28
He was scoring everything and then I also wanted to.
29:32
I think you had you got pulp. The goalkeeper for Newcastle
29:37
pretty late as well and he finished pretty high for
29:39
goalkeeper as well. So I think everyone just on
29:44
Newcastle overdid their draft position.
29:46
So the goalkeeper as well, especially since he was not the
29:49
first goalkeeper taking, you got him and I think he finished top
29:52
three or top four and the points for the goalkeeper.
29:55
So that was pretty that was pretty good too.
29:58
Yeah, yeah, there's some, I think some of those forward.
30:00
So it's like getting like getting forwards that over
30:06
perform like makes you gets you so ahead in fantasy cuz it's
30:09
such a scarce position. So like kind of winning like
30:12
Lucky out with both Tony and Mitrovich was huge.
30:16
So let's move on to the next section, which is what was the
30:19
worst pick that each of us made, starting with Enzo.
30:24
Man, there's so many places that could go.
30:25
I. Know do you go, Do you want to
30:27
go first? So I have two Rodri.
30:29
It's an obvious one just because you got them that you dropped
30:31
them. But I'm going to go with Hugo
30:33
Lores as your hideous pickup because, and it's not even
30:39
because he got hurt, it's you thought that Tottenham were
30:41
going to be good enough to have that many shutouts, not win that
30:44
many games for Hugo Lores to be productive.
30:47
It's Tottenham, mate. Yeah, it was pretty bad.
30:52
But you know, high hopes, low expectations.
30:56
How's that been working out for you?
30:59
Not very well. I I feel like too, like after,
31:02
you know, playing this for a little while, like like gold,
31:04
I'm just gonna drop goalkeeper so late, you know?
31:07
I think even the 8th is maybe too you know, a little early.
31:13
That, that and offenders. Honestly we have people who
31:16
drafting Gokeys and defenders and that's including me in the
31:18
second third and fourth round when we should.
31:21
Yeah, I think like maybe the the two, you know, obviously Trent
31:25
Alexander Arnold and Kirian trip here you can you can say can go
31:28
round one, maybe round two, but outside of that I just don't
31:32
think 'cause I just don't think there's anyone, I don't think
31:35
there's any defenders that can you can make that argument like.
31:38
So I totally agree. Mine for you would probably be
31:42
Fifth round Mike Cucarella, ha. That's so bad, man.
31:48
I thought you was gonna be so good.
31:50
I think it's funny because he went to, he was at Brighton,
31:53
this was like such a promising player and he got traded to
31:56
Chelsea and I remember I kind of wanted it from you.
31:58
I think I said he would trade off for him at the time.
32:00
Can can I be honest, The reason why I went for Cucarella wasn't
32:04
because I thought he was going to Chelsea.
32:07
I thought he was going to see. And if you went to see, I think
32:11
he would have been, he would have been a lot better because
32:13
it would have worked out for that.
32:14
The way he plays, he plays very forward and he plays very
32:17
frentic. So I think he would have, you
32:19
know, would have been another Mendy over there.
32:21
So, all right, Tico, I gotta say, I There wasn't like, as
32:28
many, you know, to your credit, they weren't, like glaring, like
32:34
just horrible picks on your team, I think.
32:37
No, there is. There is.
32:39
There you go. What do you got?
32:40
Virgil Van Dyke in the third. Round, but I think him up the
32:45
time. I don't think anyone hated that
32:47
at the time, right? I don't think I didn't look in
32:50
this draft at the time and think what a terrible.
32:52
Pick Well, you go by what? How's he gonna get you points?
32:58
He's gonna score. He might have scored you like
32:59
three or four goals. But you wanna you honestly, in
33:02
my opinion, you want to win back most of the time.
33:05
If that's how I thought about it, you wanted one that was
33:07
going to get you crosses, give you assist, goal chances.
33:10
Virgil Dyke. Virgil Van Dyke doesn't do that
33:12
for you. Especially not the Virgil Van
33:14
Dyke we used to know. This isn't the same Virgil Van
33:17
Dyke so. He yeah, no.
33:20
You know, what's funny is after after the draft, when I was kind
33:23
of looking at it and I was thinking about that too, how the
33:26
defenders get points usually it's, you know, clich sheets,
33:28
whatnot. And then?
33:30
You want people who are gonna be involved in the process for back
33:33
back. His goals are gonna be come from
33:34
set pieces, the winning aerial headers of the point category.
33:37
So if he's if he's starting both away.
33:40
And then Liverpool got off to a pretty bad start too.
33:42
He got hurt but towards the end of the season he kind of
33:47
justified his season. But at that time it was a little
33:50
too late. But yeah, when I go back and
33:53
look at it, that's the one. What's funny is it was I think
33:58
it was between him and Reese James is why I was thinking of
34:01
drafting. So I don't know I think Reese
34:05
when Reese James would put a lot of points when he was in, but he
34:08
just he only played like he played so few games so when he
34:11
when he plays he's he's worth starting you know.
34:15
I think so yeah you I think again it's just it was more like
34:18
the Louis C as the Virgil Van Dyke series second and third on
34:21
pics both getting injured. That just sucks.
34:24
It just it sucked. No, no, no.
34:25
There's just not you know not much you can do about that other
34:28
than that your team would kind of get like you know there
34:31
wasn't anything crazy that I was like kind of laughing at cool
34:36
stuff. You were a bummer and at 4th and
34:38
the fourth round for you too you know because he's had didn't
34:40
have a great start I ended up picking him up off waiver.
34:42
So you dropped him at some point or you must have right.
34:45
Or do we do we trade. I forget, I don't know how, how
34:48
I got. You dropped him.
34:49
Yeah, I I ended up picking. I dropped him pretty happy with
34:51
him later in the season. But yeah, it's kind of a
34:55
dumpster fire. For you, it it sucks when, yeah,
35:00
when you have your second or third round peg injured.
35:03
And even if they're gonna miss a long period of time, you don't.
35:06
Do you hold down to them and stash them or do you drop them
35:08
and then they come back and, you know, all right, moving on,
35:11
let's talk about some of the summer transfers, some of the
35:14
people incoming into the into the Premier League or switching
35:17
teams. And then we can kind of talk
35:19
about too. Like not only like if we liked
35:22
that player, we think it was a good move, but also is it
35:24
someone that we're interested in remotely and fantasy like do we
35:26
care, You know, so let's start with one Kai Haver, it's going
35:30
to Arsenal, leaving Chelsea, going to Arsenal.
35:33
What do we think? Not interested, honestly.
35:38
And that's not again everyone's, everyone will say, cuz I don't
35:42
know where he fits in this Arsenal theme.
35:45
I really don't like when you got those front free because
35:48
obviously they're going to play Gabriel.
35:49
Jesus, you're not gonna, he's not gonna take Bakayo, Saka,
35:52
They're playing that 433, they're going to play that 433.
35:56
Does he sit in that midfield? But if he sits in that midfield,
35:58
you're gonna have Declan Rice haverts and Jacques is gone,
36:03
right? So who's the it'll be Odegard in
36:07
that middle. I don't think that that melts.
36:10
I don't think so. He's not playing over
36:12
Martinelli. I think he, I think he's gonna
36:14
end up being an incredibly expensive backup.
36:16
Like, I think what you were just saying, like, I don't think he
36:19
starts over any of the top players.
36:21
I think if they think he's gonna play in the eight, I just don't
36:24
think his skill set works for that position.
36:26
I don't think he's gonna wanna track back.
36:28
He's not gonna wanna work hard off the ball.
36:31
So I. The only way you're gonna saw is
36:35
if it's and it's gonna be a bad thing for Arsenal.
36:38
As if frigging. Hey Zeus, if Jesus gets injured
36:41
and they have to play car habits up front, and we were, we did
36:43
for Chelsea up front, it's gonna be a frigging shit for a young
36:46
kid that's even might even probably started forward.
36:49
I just don't see that. I just don't see where he goes.
36:52
I don't see how he exists in that team.
36:55
Wish him all the best, whatever. But.
36:57
How do you feel about lose? How do you feel about Chelsea?
36:59
Losing him gave you think it was a good thing?
37:00
You think it was a bad thing. I think it's probably a
37:03
necessary thing. I think we needed, we just
37:05
needed to sell players and I think there's there's a good
37:07
player somewhere in Kai habits, but I just don't know if that
37:10
situation was ever right for him here.
37:12
And it's obviously a part of me is a little bit sad because I
37:14
think he will go somewhere and be good.
37:17
But I don't know if it's Arsenal, I don't know if it's
37:18
this season. All right.
37:22
Another, another lost love of mine.
37:25
Moving on to Mason Mount. Going from Chelsea to Man United
37:29
Tikka. What do you think?
37:32
I think he'll be more impactful than Harvard's just because I
37:37
don't think Man United is as deep.
37:39
That's someone I would probably draft ahead of Harvard's, and I
37:45
do wonder where he's going to be, how that team's going to
37:48
look like, because they did bring in a lot of wingers as
37:51
well that. Kind of didn't work out for
37:53
them, so it's gonna be interesting, but to kind of go
37:56
back on average as well, I do think they got him just as a
38:01
luxury. I don't think he's gonna get a
38:02
lot of minutes, so I wouldn't take a flyer on him.
38:05
But Mason Mount I do feel would be the better of those two
38:08
options. I do see some promise for him to
38:11
to contribute in fantasy. I'll see him get minutes and I
38:15
said it earlier, I think it's actually a positive.
38:18
It's a player they need. I think they need a DM also.
38:21
That would help that out. So if they get, if they get a
38:24
decent DM, oh you know what? They got Casamaro.
38:27
What am I fucking talking about? They got Casamaro Mesa mount and
38:30
they got Bruno Fernandez. That's a fucking great buy
38:33
because now Casamaro Mesa Mountain can retain the ball and
38:38
spread it out and Bruno Fernandez can do his thing up
38:41
front, he can shoot, he can put a through pass in because he
38:44
can't. He definitely can't do a long
38:45
ball. He does short pass as well, but
38:46
he can't do a long ball. So I should be fucking yeah,
38:50
I'll write you Mason, man. I think Chelsea did the wrong
38:52
thing by selling him to May Night, but to be honest, you
38:55
just made your one of your rivals.
38:57
Yeah I think. I think if we could have kept
38:59
him I would have been very happy.
39:00
I think he was wanted to leave and we had us.
39:02
We had to get rid of him and it just unfortunately was to
39:04
arrival. Yeah, I kind of agree.
39:06
I think the difference between Mel and Kyle Haveritz is that
39:09
Mount has the ability to play in the midfield like as an 8.
39:14
I think he has the work rate off the ball to do that and then I
39:17
think, but I don't think I does. So I think Mount will get more
39:21
playing time and I think Mount can also if Bruno goes down,
39:24
Mount can play in that 10. If rash, if something happens to
39:27
Rashford, Mount can play out wide on the left, but he can
39:31
also play starting as the 8th. So I think he is way more
39:34
versatile than a Ky habits, but I think he's just like a great
39:38
signing for United because he can fill a lot of holes and also
39:41
start. I think KY habits can fill a lot
39:43
of holes for Arsenal, but I don't see where he starts.
39:45
So I agree with you guys. I think Mount is interesting.
39:48
I don't know, I I really haven't wrapped my head around where he
39:51
goes because I still think he's kind of risky because I don't
39:53
think he's like, I don't think he's locked in every single game
39:56
maybe. And even if he is I think he's
39:58
gonna play a little bit further back than he ever has.
40:01
So where Chelsea he was, he was playing, you know?
40:03
In a front three, I think for United, a lot of times he's
40:06
gonna be playing in a more of a midfield role and be getting
40:08
less, less chances, but I still think it's interesting.
40:12
He's gonna play ahead of Fred. He's gonna play ahead of
40:15
Mcdominate. I mean, Christian Erickson's
40:17
still there, so is he gonna play every game ahead of Christian
40:20
Erickson? Well, Erickson can't play no
40:23
more. So Keith could play ahead of
40:27
Fred. Is there gonna be a situation?
40:28
Where Ericsson starts and Mount Mount comes in, I don't know.
40:31
I think there's just. I think there's a little bit
40:33
more uncertainty. Next player on this list is just
40:36
actually just officially signed this morning was Declan Rice to
40:39
Arsenal from West Ham. Yeah I think.
40:42
I think as Enzo's fourth round Man City Rhodri pick goes, you
40:49
learn quickly that a holding midfielder, while super
40:52
important for any real team, is just not super valuable in
40:56
fantasy. Unless they're like James Ward
40:59
Prowst and they're taking corners and penalties and
41:03
they're gonna have, like contributing in that way, it's
41:05
just a tough position to score a lot of points.
41:07
It doesn't translate what they do on the pitch doesn't
41:09
translate onto the the score sheet.
41:12
Honestly. Yeah, yeah, maybe there's maybe
41:15
there's some six that's like a deep line playmaker.
41:17
The way you can make that argument about I don't think
41:19
Declan Rice is that. I think.
41:21
I think there's also like some Arsenal fans.
41:24
I think he's gonna. Declan Rice is gonna go way too
41:25
high in almost every draft because big signing, big name,
41:28
terrible. I don't.
41:30
Yeah, we shouldn't go look, don't be fooled by the price tag
41:34
we know. Yeah, they they bought him for a
41:36
lot of money because they needed to and they realized you need a
41:39
good DM in this league to, you know.
41:43
Compete because that's why I think they started missing.
41:45
They they started they they had great attacking football.
41:48
But defensively after they lost Saliba, they just started
41:52
falling apart when he was injured.
41:53
So they need that backup. So I get it.
41:56
But 105 million to me. Don't be fooled by the price
41:59
tag. I don't think he's by 405
42:00
million. I think he's a good player.
42:02
I think he's a great player. No, I don't think fancy band
42:06
tracks worthy, perfectly honest. It's you're going to waste the
42:09
third, fourth round pick there. There's no point.
42:13
Yeah, I think fantasy wise I fully agree.
42:16
I think in real life I just think that defensive midfield
42:20
position is really important. I think what you the reason
42:23
you're seeing these defensive midfielders go for more is
42:26
because of the fact that they're more consistent than attacking
42:29
players. So I think you're paying 100 and
42:31
something million knowing that he's going to run and do these
42:33
things all the time where you look at attacking players and
42:35
like they pay 100 million for someone who's like, just doesn't
42:40
necessarily have that like guarantee to score goals.
42:42
So like I I see why they paid that much money for something
42:47
that's as close to a sure thing as you can get in soccer or
42:51
football. But but yeah, I think in the
42:53
context of fantasy, there's some some pools gonna take him way
42:58
too early. I would say the good thing about
43:00
the defensive midfielder is it's there for them to get
43:02
sacrificed. If you know if they're ahead or
43:04
they're behind, they usually play the whole game because.
43:07
If the team is ahead, they wanna, you know, keep the lead.
43:10
They keep him on there. If they're behind, they need to
43:12
still keep him on there so the winks could move forward.
43:14
So in that sense I could see where he had some value in
43:17
fantasy. He will get the whole games, but
43:22
this is something I would take on the second-half of the draft,
43:25
6-7 round. Below that I think it'd be
43:28
great, but if people take him top four, top five, it's not
43:31
gonna it's you know. Yeah, yeah, fully.
43:35
He's still there in the 6th, 7th, 8th round.
43:37
Sure, pick him up. Bench player, you know, you
43:39
know. Put him in when you need just
43:40
some points once, you know. I fully agree.
43:42
But I just don't think there's any chance that he sticks around
43:46
that late. OK, next one.
43:49
Alexi McAllister to Liverpool. Enzo as as you you dropped in
43:53
last year. So what do you what do you think
43:54
about that move? I I really like McAllister.
43:57
I loved him at Brian, love how he plays.
43:59
He plays the same way for Brian. He.
44:02
That he's gonna play the same way for Liverpool.
44:04
Do we? I don't think so.
44:05
Like, I think he had more freedom at home.
44:08
You think he's gonna have freedom to run around that
44:10
midfield the way he did it, right?
44:12
I think so. Remember, is that Brian?
44:14
That don't go wrong. They did it.
44:15
They did amazing. But they don't really have any
44:17
star players. They got real Trossard who went
44:20
to Arsenal do I think he's gonna get the same points at
44:24
Liverpool? It's possible it is.
44:27
But you got Sala, you got, you got Nunes.
44:31
You got so many Diaz, You got so many plays that they're going to
44:34
create for you. That is he going to have to
44:36
create as much as he did? But he's also going to be
44:40
surrounded by talent, so he's not going to be the main focus
44:43
of the other teams defense. So he's going to have more
44:45
freedom to move around as well. And you know, when you're
44:48
passing to Masala, the chance of scoring is a lot higher than if
44:52
you're passing to, you know, name any random team media last
44:56
year. So I could see what you mean.
44:59
He's not gonna have the ball on his feet as as often, but I do
45:03
think strongly by talent is gonna open things up for more.
45:06
So he might score a little bit more and at the same time, you
45:08
know the ball she's playing off of them are going to be to the
45:11
top tier world class talent as well.
45:13
So that also factors in for me. Who's world class talent on
45:17
there besides solo? I think they're attacking.
45:22
I think they're attacking. Line is good.
45:24
I mean, maybe not world class other than solid, but like
45:26
there's a lot of really good players in that attack.
45:29
Like, I again, I think there's you run into the issue of who do
45:32
you draft? Because it's a little bit of
45:33
like a juggling. Every game's gonna be a little
45:35
bit of a juggling thing. Also how Liverpool play it's
45:38
just more you know club more counterattacks more a high pace.
45:42
So that's I think I think he'll, I I don't think he's gonna drop
45:46
off. I think he'll do well.
45:47
I definitely don't think you're gonna he's gonna be available
45:50
that late on the on the draft. So.
45:53
So yeah. I think McAlister, I think you
45:54
guys kind of nailed it. I think it's, I think he's
45:57
exciting, a little, a little tentative, but I think there's
46:00
enough talent around him. I think it's just a question of
46:03
if, if what role he's gonna be playing.
46:05
I don't. I don't.
46:05
Is he gonna be playing as advanced as he was for Breton or
46:08
is he gonna be playing a little bit more of an industrial
46:10
midfield role and that's gonna cause him to maybe lose a little
46:12
bit of points. But then does he make that up on
46:14
the backside by being surrounded by talent, being able to get
46:17
more assists potentially, You know, that opens up the field
46:20
room to get more goals. So I think he's interesting.
46:21
I don't know where he goes and dropped.
46:23
I'm I'm not sure yet. Maybe fourth round, third round?
46:26
Do you think that's too high? I don't think so.
46:29
Just you're gonna go by what he did last season.
46:32
I don't think that's too high. The positives will definitely
46:35
outweigh the negatives. And even the negatives have a
46:37
silver lining to it. So McAllister, he would
46:40
definitely go a lot higher. Would it?
46:41
Was it? What round did I get him in?
46:44
Like, yeah, So he ain't going. He's gonna go lower than the
46:47
fifth round in my opinion. Yeah, I think that's that's
46:52
valid. I think next player Christopher
46:55
and Cunku from RB Lightsing. Enjoy.
46:58
Me neither. Chelsea, what do you guys think?
47:02
That's not freaking blunders you with a with a black man Mad
47:05
wacky. You know I think he'll some you
47:10
can talk. I'm good Madu.
47:11
I think this year we'll be for him.
47:14
Look. Keith You guys buy some great
47:16
players. I just don't know if they work
47:18
with the system. I think I trust Pachatino.
47:22
I think you've got. I think Tuco was a great manager
47:25
too, but I think Pochatino will work with the youth bucket
47:27
players and he can make you play creative football again.
47:31
But it all depends on if they can get him perform in this
47:37
team. But you guys are offloading.
47:39
I have no idea what's going to happen in Chelsea this season.
47:41
I do agree that you know you guys are going to be better than
47:44
12, but by the wacky and yeah, I'm not sure, I'm not sure,
47:49
mate. Kika, do you have any thoughts?
47:53
I think with the Chelsea team overall a lot of uncertainty
47:56
because just from the all the players they bought end of last
47:59
year, this transfer window. So I I don't think I would draft
48:06
a lot of Chelsea players high in the draft.
48:09
I would also love to see them play obviously in the pieces and
48:12
just to get an idea of what people look like, what the team
48:14
looks like, what the formations will be, but I.
48:18
I don't see anyone from Chelsea that I would kind of gamble on,
48:22
especially like you said the same goes right you could lose
48:25
the draft in the first three rounds.
48:27
So I I don't I wouldn't really. I really don't think he's gonna
48:32
be make that big of an impact in the fantasy world just because
48:36
they have so much so many players.
48:38
And it and it so many at the same position as as well.
48:41
So if someone I feel like if someone is having a bad game or
48:45
two and they could just bench them and move on to the next
48:47
player just to see how it's going.
48:49
And this is Chelsea it's like a rebuilding transitional period
48:52
as well. So if I was you know you
48:55
experiment a lot you try different lineups you play
48:57
around with it see what works out for you.
48:58
So I that's that's my, I think my thought process on Chelsea
49:04
for the their entire roster for the for the whole year.
49:08
Maybe until the second-half of the year they'll have a steady
49:10
lineup. That's when you know you'll have
49:12
a better idea. They'll they'll they'll
49:14
definitely be some bloody yeah, I think.
49:17
I think that's the thing. I think there's there's a lot of
49:19
uncertainty. Enzo's right.
49:21
I think there'll be a couple players that are like they're
49:23
gonna get drafted really late because they were so bad last
49:25
year that are are gonna be a steal.
49:28
I look it in Cuckoo and he was very good for Leipzig.
49:33
He's very well thought of in France.
49:36
He's coming to a Chelsea team with a good coach that nurtures
49:39
youth. He plays in a role similar to
49:42
Deli Elite. That Potch really developed.
49:46
I think there's potential for that to be a very for him to be
49:49
a very good player. I'm not taking him in the first
49:53
round, I'm probably not taking him in the second round if he's
49:56
still there in the third round. And it it makes sense.
49:58
I would be interested depending on the players that are around
50:01
because I think that someone's gonna have to score goals,
50:03
someone's gonna have to create chances for Chelsea.
50:06
But yeah, I'm not like it would be more like at that point as a
50:10
Chelsea fan. It'd maybe be more a little bit
50:12
more of a selfish pick. I think maybe in the fourth
50:14
round, if you can get into the. I think that's a player in the
50:16
fourth round you'd be pretty happy to get with the risk
50:19
associated. I think that's a good, that'd be
50:21
a very exciting player but I don't know, who knows.
50:24
The next player on the list is James Madison, transferring from
50:27
Leicester City to Tottenham. I guess we'll start with you
50:32
Enzo, cuz he's going to your your club.
50:34
How do you feel about Madison going to taught him?
50:38
Should have been done last season, I'll be honest.
50:40
We could have used him a lot more last season.
50:43
He's a great player, great playmaker, can do a lot on that
50:46
midfield. He's going to take our free
50:47
kicks, he's going to take our corners.
50:50
That's where it take a lot of pressure off Sun so Sun can more
50:53
concentrate on what he does best, which is create chances.
50:57
The good thing is we got on for cheaper than we would have done
51:00
last year, you know, cause unfortunately less than went
51:03
down. I do like Max.
51:05
I think it's a great, great addition to the team that we
51:08
needed. We haven't replaced Christian
51:10
Ericsson since he left. You know, so and I think in
51:14
every good team you need a playmaker.
51:16
He's going like 14th Ish. So like you know, early second
51:20
round, like Kiko, is that interesting to you?
51:22
If you were early second round, would you be interested in James
51:25
Madison? I I wouldn't for me for the
51:29
early round picks, I have a strategy of taking players that.
51:32
Are staying on the same team with not a lot of big changes
51:35
and I think with the amount of players there I would not reach
51:38
from it early second round. But at the same time, you know
51:41
he's been in EPL, I think most of it almost all of his career,
51:44
especially if he's going to take the corners for Tottenham,
51:47
that's, you know, they get points for crosses.
51:50
You know he's going to get some assist to Harry Kane and you
51:52
know some goes that way. So I could see how he would get
51:55
some high points but. I would not get him in the
51:59
second round just because I feel like there will be better
52:01
options on the border at that time.
52:04
Yeah, it's interesting. So when you look at his like
52:06
points per start, you know behind Holland, de Bruin, Bruno
52:11
Fernandez, he was like right up there with like some of the
52:14
highest points per start and that was on like a pretty bad
52:17
luster team. So I'm curious I think it all
52:19
comes down to inch Pasta Coglu, if I said that correctly and how
52:23
he plays him right. Like where is is he gonna be
52:27
right behind Harry Kane and A10 and son's out left and someone
52:30
else is out right. Is that it?
52:32
Like, I just don't know exactly how that's gonna look and I
52:35
think that's, that's the Tika's point.
52:36
Like there's a little bit of uncertainty there, but I think
52:38
it's, I think he's, he's only gonna, he has better players
52:41
around him, so that's kind of exciting, you know?
52:46
What players do you think are better than Tika?
52:48
Like if you were gonna take someone's second round, say
52:51
there's ten of us in a round, who would you take ahead?
52:53
Would you take a forward or is that what you're thinking more?
52:56
I'll name some names just around him.
52:58
So Jack Rielish Song and then Madison and Martinelli.
53:02
Phil Foden. Jesus might be on the board.
53:06
Hey Zeus, he'd probably be gone. I think he's going first round,
53:09
end of the first round. He's thinking.
53:14
He's thinking. He's thinking.
53:16
No, no. The players you name honestly.
53:19
I would even take Reese James over him.
53:21
No, man. No, I don't.
53:26
You're you're just trying to piss me off.
53:27
It's it's alright. It's not that, It's it.
53:30
No, no, no. It is.
53:31
It is. It's fine.
53:31
Don't worry about it. You can't name one and you pull
53:34
reshame out your ass. It doesn't make sense.
53:38
I was waiting for, Keef was saying the names I would take
53:40
reshames because it's also with the position as well.
53:44
There's more midfielders whereas defenders, you know, you have
53:47
the top tier which is maybe four or five players, so I would
53:52
rather take that. Than you know a midfielder for
53:54
some, you know, average team I think.
53:58
I think only because you could get Reese James in the next
54:01
round without any sort of competition, so you might as
54:04
well go for like a premium guy, but.
54:06
There's also, I mean, there's also a really good chance that
54:10
King's not going to be on the team, so.
54:14
Well, that actually makes it even better for Madison.
54:17
Perfect. You know, look what he did at
54:18
Leicester. He had to do like Lichy every
54:20
game he had to produce. And even if he loses Harry Kane,
54:24
which is a big possibility, he still has son.
54:26
We've got that new kid Solomon. We still got rich.
54:29
Charleston now can play up front.
54:31
You put him in front of goal. Hopefully he can have a better
54:33
start to the season a lot. Remember Sons first season like
54:36
that's very reflective of what Rick Charleston season was like
54:39
last season. Like he had a rough start season
54:41
at Tottenham, came back next season and just got better and
54:43
better so. I take this he can't go.
54:46
But if he does, I don't think it's the worst thing, but it is
54:50
bad. But it's not the worst thing in
54:51
the world. All right, let's end it at that.
54:53
Let's move on to the next player.
54:56
No, we're not just gonna move up.
54:57
We gonna hear what he. Said he moving is not.
55:01
The worst thing? What the What can be worse than
55:03
that Kate moving? I mean, it is what it is, right?
55:08
If Kate moves now you get they get like 100 mil and then it is
55:11
what it is. Yeah, it is what it is.
55:13
Thanks. If Cain moves next year, it
55:15
might be the worst thing for free.
55:17
Yeah, that'll break my heart. That would soul Campbell all
55:20
over again. Moving on.
55:22
Matteo Kovacic going from Chelsea to Man City.
55:25
Do we care? Are we interested?
55:27
Do we think he's gonna be like a viable player?
55:29
Is he gonna be like a good, like third mid, maybe on the bench,
55:33
maybe coming on? Or is he even gonna get enough
55:35
starts? No, I.
55:37
And it's hard because he's going to go there.
55:39
Obviously Gundo gun left there. There's there's pace missing
55:42
there, but Rodri turned it up last year and Wood Pep is kind.
55:47
Wood Pep and that team is kind of difficult because he's just
55:50
going to go with whoever's playing well.
55:52
The matchups and I personally, Kovachish been around all over
55:56
the place. I wouldn't really draft him
55:58
maybe like in the later rounds, just to see how the season turns
56:02
out and just stash him. It would be stash there for me
56:04
to be honest. It's it's a light pickup.
56:08
It's pep doing pet things. Like you said.
56:12
He's gonna fill a void, a small void but with the rotation and
56:16
man see you pick him up late and then start when you know he's
56:19
gonna start because that's the only someone's gonna get your
56:22
point. Yeah.
56:23
I totally agree. I, I like don't understand the
56:25
city signing so far in the sense of like, I think they're gonna
56:28
have to play differently. Like it's gonna be a different
56:30
formation. It's gonna be different lineup.
56:32
I think that like like Kovich is not gonna replace Gundalin in
56:35
the on the side and so and Kovach is he's gonna sit next to
56:39
Rogery like I I don't understand where he fits in that team.
56:42
He's I don't think he's good to play higher up in one of those
56:45
like 8 those like almost like the city plays with like what
56:49
two 10s behind Holland and then two wide players.
56:53
Like I don't like I don't think he's a 10 and like I don't know
56:55
it's just so weird so weird signing.
56:57
I'm curious. I think Pat might be cooking
57:00
something up, and in which case Kovacic might get a lot of
57:04
starts, but he's not a goal scorer really.
57:05
He's really good at carrying the ball in possession and relieving
57:09
pressure by dribbling out of like out of pressure, but he
57:13
just doesn't score goals. He doesn't create a lot, so.
57:16
I also see him as a late sub when they're up, maybe 10 by
57:20
goal or two. Bring him on there.
57:21
Just kind of slow things down. Control the ball, Control the
57:24
pace, Yeah. Makes him completely like, not
57:27
viable and. Yeah, yeah, late pick up.
57:31
Yeah, Okay. Moving on to the next one.
57:32
JAL Pedro from Watford to Brighton, Enzo.
57:40
Bryan's going to need a lot more than that.
57:42
They've lost in the last two years, they've lost their core.
57:45
I see him as another Leicester and when Leicester won the
57:47
league. So if they didn't win the
57:48
league, Leicester did a great job of recruiting and they
57:52
brought all these plays in that like statistical wise that were
57:55
really good and I think Bryan should have stayed the course.
57:57
Now they're going to start spending money because they got
57:59
money for these players. We saw after Leicester when they
58:03
bought Tillermans and you know, players of that sort, that just
58:06
didn't do it really. So I don't think this is enough
58:09
for them. I don't think JAL Pedro's gonna
58:11
do too much. He wasn't.
58:12
He was good at Watford, but can you bring him to the next level?
58:15
I don't think so. I don't think he's here that
58:17
many. Do you got any thoughts?
58:18
Yeah, I think same with COVID Church.
58:21
It's it's a player that you could get him stashed just in
58:24
case he might get a start, but. Pedro, you keep him on there,
58:28
you know, play him against probably whenever they have a
58:30
match up against the bottom tier team, you could play him, maybe
58:33
he give you some value there, but overall I don't think he's
58:35
gonna be a significant player in fantasy.
58:38
I am pretty hot on him. I I don't wanna say too much.
58:41
I think next episode we might talk about some players that we
58:44
really like and he's might be on one of my list there, but I
58:48
think he is good and he reminds me of Mitsovich last year.
58:55
Like where there is, you know, he did some things in the past.
58:58
People kind of like look down on it, cuz he didn't, he didn't
59:00
explode onto the scene. He goes down to the championship
59:02
as well and it comes back up. But we'll we'll talk a little
59:05
bit more about that in the next episode.
59:09
Moving on to the next and last player in the segment, Andre or
59:12
Nana is just signed to Manchester United where we are.
59:15
Or he laughing at because look I.
59:19
He puts a smile on my face when I see him.
59:21
You know Lucas Moore put three against him.
59:24
In the Champions League, so that just he's a good goalkeeper,
59:27
don't get me wrong, but like a lot of these IX players, once
59:30
they left the IX, it's just that he's a good goalkeeper.
59:34
Is there a better replacement than the Hare?
59:36
I still don't think so. I think the Hare had a bad end
59:38
to his season, but didn't he have the most clean sheets last
59:41
season? Most clean sheets.
59:44
So I still don't understand why they didn't stick with the hare.
59:46
They didn't need to spend all that money on an honor.
59:48
I think the idea is that he's better with the ball to his feet
59:51
and he showed that enter his his passing distribution is better,
59:56
even more comfortable for the way 10 Hogg wants to play, which
59:59
is like what you're saying, like that IAC style.
1:00:02
I think my concern is that that doesn't really matter for
1:00:04
fantasy like if anything that's a detriment because there's
1:00:07
there's more chances that he's going to make mistake and goals
1:00:10
are going to go in. So I'm not I'm not super keen on
1:00:14
it. I mean, I'm not like, I'm
1:00:16
definitely not going out of my way to pick him up.
1:00:18
He had a good Champions League final.
1:00:20
They're also getting younger. Maybe that's why they went with
1:00:22
the goalkeeper. He'll probably, you know, with
1:00:25
with their team, with the clean sheets.
1:00:26
He'll be drafted. Obviously.
1:00:27
He'll probably be finished top 6-7 goalkeeper, but it is
1:00:31
goalkeeper at the end of the day, you know, you just could,
1:00:33
you could just play the matchups.
1:00:34
You don't really need one unless you have to dominate the
1:00:36
goalkeeper on your roster. I also think that the Premier
1:00:39
League is a lot faster than the Italian league, just like the
1:00:42
speed at which it happens. And so I think on, oh, Nano,
1:00:45
when you look at some of the things he did last year, there's
1:00:47
a lot of close calls or he's like.
1:00:48
Jukes a guy and kicks, you know, clears it out or does something
1:00:51
and you're just like man, that was like a split second and
1:00:53
you're he was a bit of in a lot of trouble.
1:00:56
And I think those split seconds happen faster in the Premier
1:00:58
League than in other leagues. So he might.
1:01:00
I could see him getting caught once or twice this year just on
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a weird little play where he's being cute with the ball in the
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back. And that's like the last thing
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you want on your team for the Premier League.
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And you know, and the real stuff in the real soccer, obviously it
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makes more sense, allows you to relieve pressure, build out the
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back. But I think for fantasy, I'm
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almost kind of like off him more than anything.
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Alright, that's gonna do it for us.
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This was episode one of draft Offsides.
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I'm with Tico and Enzo. My name is Keith and see you
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next time.