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18- Airport Arguments & Early Arrival Dilemmas · Arguing Ever After

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#18. 18 That's pretty awesome. Yeah, it is.
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Yeah. If you were like counting in
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years, you'd be like old enough to do some stuff.
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Some stuff. Yeah, not all the stuff.
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Yeah, you got to be 21 for all this stuff.
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No, you got to be 2727. Isn't that what?
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How old do you have to be to rent a car?
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Oh, I don't know. No, I think it's, I think it's
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25 in most places. Yeah, Isn't 27 you get to be on
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your own insurance or you have to be on your own insurance.
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That's really fun for people. So never mind, we won't talk.
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I have an idea. Yeah.
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We're not talking about insurance today.
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You know what we're going to talk about?
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Planes, trains and Automobiles minus the trains and
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Automobiles. OK, fair.
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Also, that was a great movie. It was John.
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Candy was also Steve. Steve, somebody.
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I don't remember his last name. What here, guy?
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Steve Martin. Martin, I actually don't
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remember much of the movie, so this isn't fair.
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I don't think he was in that. I almost said Danny DeVito, but
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that's throw Mama from the train because the word train got into
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my head. So now I'm just in that random
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movie association thing my brain does sometimes.
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Yeah, there's nothing about trains in this podcast except
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for all the things we just said. However, what we are going to be
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talking about today is like airports and flying.
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Yeah, because that's fun and awesome it.
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I mean. We're we're already.
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In full disagreement 30. Seconds in.
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Yeah, yeah. You mean the part where you're
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there at the place? Yes.
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So you're up for teleportation? I'm so ready for teleportation.
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Me. Too.
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When can that happen? I heard something they did a
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there was like a quantum particle beam like where they
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intentionally moved a very small thing maybe like 1 molecule from
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one part of earth to another. OK, well at another episode
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we're going to have to talk about teleporting because I have
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a whole another story about a guy who did this.
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He teleported. No, but he says he did.
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So we'll talk about that in a long time.
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This one is going to be like we said about like airports,
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flying, stuff like that. This topic has been on our radar
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for a really long time. A very long time.
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Like it was one of our number one topics that we were going to
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discuss on this podcast. That's because airports can
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bring about high stress. They can and, but, and every
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time, well, or several times when we're looking through the
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list of what we've had submitted and what we have written, you
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know, we're always like airport because we know we're going to
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argue about it. Yeah.
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And but I, I kept saying, wait until we've been somewhere,
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maybe we'll have some new antics.
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We can share some fresh opinions.
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And we probably certainly do. We just went to Florida.
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Hence the shirt. Yeah, of the cute little Florida
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orange bird. I love that bird, he's so cute.
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I should have wore the other orange bird shirt that I have.
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That thing is something. That is brighter than the sun,
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but we but we did so we just did recently come back.
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And so based on, you know, that was our commitment to doing
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this, this topic, it felt like time to do so.
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So First off, I'd just like to give a shout out to the Wright
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brothers. I know we've talked about them
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maybe once before when we talked about the state of North
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Carolina, but I'm real happy those guys decided to do what
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they did back in the day and get us the magic of airplanes.
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You. Know what I think is so funny is
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that you've mentioned them multiple times and they've not.
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They're nowhere in my. It's a big deal.
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Stream of consciousness I. Mean think of what that did to
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the planet. A lot.
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I agree. I agree.
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Yeah, like amazing stuff. It made it so that you could you
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weren't just limited to where you're feet and car and boat
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could go, you could go so much faster.
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I guess when I I mean those are clearly very famous pilots, but
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when I think of famous pilots, I think of Amelia Earhart.
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Hold on. Not pilots.
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Let's be clear. Aren't they inventors?
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Sure, but they flew the plane. Aren't they the 1st?
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One, they invented the. Airplane I understand, but they
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flew it, didn't they? Of course they flew it.
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So that would make them pilots? Oh my goodness gracious.
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Yes, but you don't relegate them to the pilot class.
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They made the airplane. That's like saying the person
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that I don't know captained a ship.
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They were like, oh, the the guy who invented the boat is just a
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guy. That captain.
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No, he invented the boat. I.
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Understand, but that doesn't make him not a captain.
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Well, I mean, OK, agreed. Makes him the number 1 captain.
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But that person gets classified as an epic inventor of of huge
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historical significance. Sure, but I'm saying both can be
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true. Well, OK.
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So you're thinking invention, which is fine.
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I'm thinking that they flew in the flipping area.
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OK, whatever with your non 0 sum game, that's fine.
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You're right, you're not wrong. They they were they they flew,
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they were captain. Yeah, OK.
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And then there was that other one who was like America's
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grandpa or whatever, who landed into the Hudson.
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What was his name? America's grandpa, are you
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talking about recently? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sully.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, everybody knew him.
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So like those are the 2 famous pilots I got.
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OK, that's that's great. Yeah, that's.
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That's amazing. Let's talk about movies instead,
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because I like movies. OK?
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Because your historical references clearly bother me.
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Wow. You're just talking about people
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that flew planes once. Like what?
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Oh, OK, cool. Whoa, what?
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People who flew planes once, Amelia Earhart, kind of a big
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deal. Oh, OK.
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This Captain Sully, I feel like he flew it way more than once to
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be able to expertly land in the Hudson.
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River He did expertly land in the Hudson River.
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I feel like they flew it more than once.
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That's true. So you want to talk about
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movies? Let's hear it.
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I. Want to talk about the movie
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Airplane? Because that movie was
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hilarious. Was hilarious.
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They did some stuff in that movie that would not work well
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in today's movie world, or not even a little current social
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climate, let's say. Not even a little.
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Because it was mostly like super sexist and racist.
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Yes. But for it's time, that was
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acceptable and it was hilarious it.
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Was hilarious for it's time, yes.
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But yeah, it would not. Who was the guy in the in the
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flight control tower was it? I.
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Don't. It wasn't Leslie Nielsen because
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they had a there was a, there was a moment in one of the naked
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guns, I think, where he was like in a flight control tower and he
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was losing his mind. But it was a spoof off of this
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guy who had, well, I can't remember his name.
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He was the older guy, white hair and he was like spilling his
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coffee everywhere and shorten out circuit boards.
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And that was hilarious, too. Yeah, yeah, there were lots of
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funny moments, but it definitely wouldn't fly today.
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Oh my goodness, bringing the jokes.
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Here we go. I was going to say it a little
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bit earlier, but then you're like chatty freaking Cathy.
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Yeah. I had to set you up for the
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right timing. You're welcome.
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I would have been better a little bit earlier, but that's
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OK. That's OK.
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No, I liked that movie. I've seen it a few times.
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I would not recommend it to much of the world today if you
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haven't already seen it, because then you're already desensitized
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to. All of so a lot of movies like
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that. Yeah, yeah.
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Especially a lot. Especially a lot of those spoof
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movies. But yeah, it was.
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I liked it back then. I probably would still laugh at
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it today and I would maybe feel bad about laughing.
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You probably would. You also much like the woman who
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was losing her mind on that plane.
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You would be like that woman if you were in a small enough
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airplane, losing your mind. You don't like small airplanes?
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I don't like any airplanes. I know one time we flew on a
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like AI don't even know what they call them.
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It wasn't like a regular sized airplane.
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Puddle jumper. No, it wasn't.
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I think a puddle jumper is like A1 propeller airplane, but it
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was very small. Like it had one row on one side
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of the plane of seats and two rows of seats on the other side
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of the plane. And there was only like maybe 16
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or 20 rows. It was real small.
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And we got in the plane and you were like, Oh, no.
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Get me off this. This is not good.
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That would have been a good time to have some of that.
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What's that? That motion sickness thing that
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makes you just leapy Dramamine. Yeah, knocked me out that.
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Would have been a good moment for some of that for you, no?
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We should maybe maybe do that when I get to the airport, like
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just have like I don't. Know just dose you up on
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Dramamine and go night night. Yeah, let me sleep.
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I'm ready to try it next time we take a airplane.
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Although the last couple times I don't think I've been bad, I
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will say I like the invention. And now this is where we're
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gonna sound old of having like your own personal thing to
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listen to or watch, you know? Like on your phones.
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Yes, my phones. But you know, I mean like that
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back in the day, I remember when there'd be like one big movie
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screen way up at the front of the plane and everybody was
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watching that one big movie screen.
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Or you brought headphones or earplugs or something.
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You could have brought a Walkman back in the day.
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You could. Have brought a Walkman.
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But you didn't have a screen. There was no you couldn't.
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I don't think there even was such a thing yet, except for
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giant laptops which I don't think anyone would have had in
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normal personal use back in the day.
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And they weren't gonna you'd play anything, right?
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I mean, maybe Oregon Trails. You weren't getting on the
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Internet. Yeah, there's no Internet in the
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sky now there is. Yeah, now there is.
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There was phones in the seats. I remember I think once maybe in
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my life, I paid whatever the fee.
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It was like a lot. I think it was like $10, which
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was at the time some insane amount to like call someone and
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say I'm calling you from the airplane.
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Ha ha. How cute.
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Wow, I did that. I don't ever remember seeing
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airplanes on the phone or phones on the airplanes.
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Snakes on a plane. Snakes on a plane, but I don't.
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Remember they were in the headrest and it wasn't, I think
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it was like 1, like if you were in a seat block of three.
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I think like one of them had a phone.
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Yeah, I didn't fly very much as a kid.
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As a kid I think I flew like twice.
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Before, well, when we started flying, I mean in our 20s, early
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20s, I mean, they still had ashtrays in the airplane.
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You couldn't smoke because they had like recently I think
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outlawed it. Yeah, maybe I don't.
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We should have looked that up. But I bet you it's like the Oh,
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did you? Funny.
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Tell. Why don't you tell us?
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OK, so on domestic flights it it became an issue and people
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stopped allowing smoking on planes on domestic flights in
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1988, but it officially became a policy in 1990.
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However, OK international flights, you can continue
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smoking on international flights until 2000.
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That checks out. Why sometimes the airplane would
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have a smoke smell and you'd be like, man.
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I feel like there's still people smoking on planes because it
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smells like that in the bathrooms.
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You go in there. Not so much anymore.
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Now we got the vaping. I don't, I'm telling you.
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Really, I haven't smelled smoke in a airport or sorry, airplane
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bathroom in a long time. Do you go to the bathroom on the
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airplane very often? Sure, when I have to go to the
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bathroom on an airplane. I go every time I'm on an
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airplane. That's good.
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OK. And I will tell you a good half
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of the time it smells like someone's been smoking in that
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bathroom. What I find it funny is that
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they're like, we can't have smoke in a plane.
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Again, I don't think you should smoke on a plane, but they're
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like, we can't have smoking on a plane because it could cause a
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fire. Is that the reason?
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That's what they say inside the bathroom.
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They're like, don't do it. You could cause a fire.
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Well, literally there was people when you were flying back in the
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1980s, seventies, whenever, you know, like the whole plane was
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on freaking, you know, everybody was smoking into these teeny
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tiny ashtrays. What a regular old bonfire in.
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There I, I, so, I mean, I don't think people should.
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It would be pretty awful, I'm sure for everybody on the plane
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except for the ones who are smoking.
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But I don't think I'm not, I'm not condoning that.
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My point is, I just think that can we just say it's maybe
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because of Clean Air Act or something?
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I'm in. Like that's not why because I
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mean how did the I mean? In Minnesota, you can't smoke
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like basically anywhere. Anymore true a lot of.
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And the whole country of Mexico outlawed smoking.
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You remember that? Yeah, we found that out last
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time we were there. It was like, I think they said
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it was like illegal to literally smoke in public anywhere.
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No, you could in the street. But not on the sidewalk.
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Right, right, right. So while driving but.
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Not, but this isn't a smoking episode.
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So that's true. Yeah.
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But it was just one of those things that has changed on
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airplanes since, you know, in my lifetime, you know, and yours
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for sure. But there's been a lot of
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changes to airports, too. That's very true.
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In my lifetime, I remember when my aunt would come out from
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California, Yep, and we would go right up to the gate, Yep, and
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just wait. Didn't even need ID, just.
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Nothing, nothing. I feel like my dad had to leave
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his knife in the car. That was that's the thing.
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Hey don't don't bring your your knife but everything else is
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fine. Everything else is fine, but
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yeah, he'd have to leave that in the car.
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Other than that, I mean you just watch your metal detector.
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And which? Oh, and they let you have
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beverages. Sure, why not, but not anymore.
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I don't remember bringing them onto planes because they also
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used to. Well, service on planes was a
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little different than it is now. That's true.
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Maybe flying back in the 1900s was more of a experience,
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whereas now it's just it's a transportation, you know, and
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you're right, it's. It's clearly become a method of
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transportation and the airline companies are not interested in
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your comfort. Right.
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Well, I mean in like back in the day it seemed like stewardess
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which aren't stewardess anymore, you know, flight.
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Attendant. Right.
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They were, their job was more to serve you, whereas now they're
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like, hey, we're safety patrol like essentially we're here to
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make sure everybody's safe and we'll probably get you something
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to drink and maybe no more peanuts.
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No, no more peanuts. But maybe you'll get it pretzels
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or something. I love is those little cookies.
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Oh yeah, the little ginger crunchy ones.
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Yeah, Biscoff, so good. That's what they're called.
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Those are, oh, future potential sponsor Biscoff.
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Y'all want to send us some free samples?
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We love. Those I am down for that.
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And I used to turn them down for a really long time.
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And then finally one day we had not gone.
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And if we didn't have time to stop to get a snack or anything
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beforehand and I was dying for something on the airplane, I
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thought, fine, I'll try your dry crusty cookies.
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I, I was like, how many times have I thrown these away or
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turned them down just wrong? Yep, they're so good.
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I like them. I'm a believer in those cookies
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personally. That is a change for the better
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I think, in airplane snacks. Well, that one, I mean, I feel
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like you used to get a lot more. I think they gave you like a
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whole meal. I do remember sitting on a plane
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when I was really young on, you know, and having a meal on the
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plane. Yeah, yeah.
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And they'd ask you. It wasn't very good though.
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There was one we went, I don't remember what plane it was, but
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they had like an option for maybe it was included, I can't
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remember. It was like a like a little
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quarter or a half a sandwich and whatever I got was actually
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pretty good. Like I was surprised.
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I could tell there were quality ingredients.
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It wasn't just like a sandwich out of a vending machine.
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It was like a good sandwich. I think there's a difference
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from where we fly to where other people fly, like, you know, the
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section of the plane, because I'm pretty sure up in first
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class they're getting meals we have to buy if we want.
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Probably, yeah. We're not first class people.
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No, we're not. Not yet.
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Well, I'm OK not being a first. Class I mean.
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So I did one time flying first class.
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Is it? Is it really that much better?
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It's pretty legit. Is it?
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I mean, OK, OK, is it worth whatever the difference is that
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I won't even look at? Probably not.
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I'm not. I don't have that kind of money
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to think about. I would pay more for a better
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seat cushion. That's my whole deal.
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Those things are low. I mean, I remember airplane
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flights not being horribly uncomfortable and but now, man,
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those seats are like, oh, it's like sitting on concrete.
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That's how all seats seem to be like.
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Car seats, I guess. Yeah.
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Car seats, too, have gotten less cush.
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Yeah, yeah. That's the wrong word.
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Plush. Is that the right word?
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That's the right word, yeah. I just don't think they it's not
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a priority anymore comfort in travel and again, which.
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Is the difference. Shame.
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Yeah, Yeah. It's no longer about the luxury
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of travel like that being the event.
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The event is not the seat in the in the, you know.
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What had the best seats? I was just thinking about this
17:01
conversion vans, those vans that they, those were ridiculous.
17:04
Basically was like they had couch seats in them like they
17:06
were. So it was like a recliner built
17:08
into the. I'd probably fall asleep driving
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one of those. Yeah, well, good news is.
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We don't have one. We don't have one.
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I don't. I wouldn't be opposed to getting
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one at some point a conversion van to drive, like do some cool
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cross country tripping or something like that.
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No. No, no, I won't because your
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face is not in. But we have talked about RV's.
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Right, very different. You should get a different
17:28
vehicle. A conversion van feels like a
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really weird way to travel across.
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We would put some miles on an RV cuz we like to travel and we've
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been, I mean like I can't even this is messed up.
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But if you ask me right now, how many times we have flown
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somewhere, I actually don't know the number.
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We're we're blessed to have been many places, right?
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Many times. So we've been on a lot, a lot of
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flights and been through a lot of different airports, some
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mostly for good reasons, some for, you know, yeah, you know,
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not so fun reasons, family events where someone has passed
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and they live far away. And.
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But for the most part, our flights have been for pleasure.
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Yes. Yeah.
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And we've, I think started flying on the regular when we
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got married. Pretty sure.
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Did we start before that? Maybe.
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I'm sure. I'm sure we started a little bit
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before that. I don't think so.
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Because I remember flying right before a certain big event that
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changed airport security forever.
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Yeah, that's 2001. Yeah, Yep, we.
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Got married No 3. Yeah, a lot of Luke's family is
18:33
from the East Coast, so any time he wanted to go see them, we
18:37
would hop a plane. Every rare once in a while we'd
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drive, which is a whole another topic.
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One day we'll discuss. That's a new we have a driving
18:44
episode. Yep, that's that's been locked
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in since the beginning, just like airports.
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Yes, yes, but, but no. So we've been through a lot of
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airports in it's. Probably over 50.
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I will say I think that my anxiety 50 that sounds
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excessive. Well, if it was since, let's say
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since 2000, it's 2025, do you think we've averaged twice a
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year? I bet it's closed.
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On an airplane in general, Sure. Yeah.
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Yeah. Because you have to go there and
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back. Oh, I wasn't thinking of like
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that. And plus, we used to do now now
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we have the luxury of on purpose doing nonstop only.
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But back in the day, it used to be what's the cheapest?
19:19
And there was always a connecting flight.
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Yeah. I mean, I sometimes like
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connecting flights. I don't.
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I mean. Just get me there.
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A smaller amount of time on a plane for me is actually good,
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but I think that my anxiety on planes have has definitely
19:31
gotten better. I used to be so like panicked
19:35
about them and you know, I just, I'm glad that I'm not quite
19:41
there. It's not I'm it's not my
19:42
favorite thing to do, but I can. You are still cute.
19:46
If there's turbulence you like, grab my hand.
19:49
If you're awake, you sleep through every.
19:51
Oh no, you wake me up if there's turbulence and grab my hand.
19:53
It's cute. Oh, OK.
19:54
Well, I'm not trying to wake you up, you know.
19:56
Well, somehow you'll save me from the turbulence.
19:58
Yeah, for sure. No problem.
20:01
Our kid too. If there's bad turbulence, she's
20:03
worried she'll grab my hand. It's cute.
20:05
Yeah. Yeah.
20:07
Well, anyhow, So what we have differences in in how we travel
20:12
together. One of the things that we were
20:16
going to talk about this actually last week, however, I
20:20
said hold off, hold off because I had known about something that
20:24
you didn't know about at the time.
20:27
OK. We usually always travel
20:30
together. That's true.
20:32
At one point in time, I had traveled alone once on an
20:35
airplane ever in my life. Are you talking about Louisiana?
20:38
Well, yes, OK, yes. So anyhow I had had quite the
20:42
trip. It was amazing.
20:45
The flight scenario was bonkers and I, it was bonkers.
20:51
It was a bunch of setbacks, a bunch of follies, like just
20:54
unbelievable things coming back that had happened.
20:57
Oh yeah. And.
20:58
That's a story. It's a story and I thought it
21:01
was a story and everybody I've told the story thought it was a
21:04
story for sure. And I listened to this podcast.
21:10
OK. Do you mind if I talk about this
21:12
right this second? OK, so I listened to this
21:13
podcast that I really love. It's called Petty Crimes.
21:17
And they ask people to submit, you know, some sort of wonky
21:20
antics or, you know, petty crimes is what they're looking
21:22
for. So that's actually a crime.
21:24
Well, sometimes it. Is sometimes.
21:25
Sometimes it is, but not. But they were asking for, and
21:27
they always do just kind of like we ask for people to write in,
21:30
you know, topic ideas. They ask for, hey, send us your
21:33
petty crime and we'll talk about it.
21:35
And they'll read, you know, they'll read whatever the letter
21:38
is and, and talk about the scenario.
21:40
And they have opinions, obviously about the people who
21:42
are in the letter for sure. A lot of times they're telling a
21:45
lot of jokes about the person who writes the letter, you know,
21:48
and I had had this just absurd scenario that happened.
21:52
I thought, I've got to write this into these folks because I
21:54
love them. Just they're so funny.
21:57
They're hilarious. I wrote into them, I don't know,
22:01
months and months ago. OK.
22:03
And then we start our podcast. Yep.
22:06
And I saw this topic on there and I was like, gosh, I wish I
22:09
wouldn't have given away that great story.
22:11
I'm going to keep listening and see if she ever use it.
22:15
Well, they didn't. And then we go on our trip right
22:18
before our trip. I'm like, well, we're clearly
22:19
gonna talk about airports in our next podcast.
22:21
Yeah. And I say I write them a letter.
22:25
Yeah. And I say if you're not gonna
22:26
use it, that's. Fine, I'm gonna just point out
22:28
again. Write them a letter, an e-mail,
22:31
e-mail. Sorry.
22:34
So I write them an e-mail and I say, hey, by the way, I know I
22:37
gave you the story, haven't heard on this.
22:38
You got people out here thinking you got a pen and paper out.
22:42
No, I typed it, so I have. Me and my husband have started
22:47
our own podcast. This is a phenomenal story to
22:49
me. Maybe it's too long for you and
22:52
that's fine. If you're not gonna use it, I'd
22:55
like to use it on our podcast because it's a great story.
22:58
Well, we go on our trip, come back and they're like, by the
23:02
way, they respond to me. So glad that you emailed us
23:06
because we did just record the episode with your letter on the
23:11
show. Did I say?
23:12
Letter. You did.
23:13
It doesn't matter. However, whatever, it's the same
23:16
basic concept. It's so.
23:17
Funny that you're saying. Letter.
23:18
Same concept anyhow, so they said Yep.
23:22
Or the producer. Wow.
23:23
Oh, look at me talking to producers.
23:25
Shout out to petty crimes getting us up there come.
23:28
Over via e-mail? Yep.
23:30
But you know, I'm talking to producers.
23:31
Do we get a mention? Can we get a mention?
23:33
Well, I don't know, but what I'm going to do right now is just
23:35
say it was I after we got back, you know, about a week ago, they
23:40
send me the the e-mail saying that they had recorded it.
23:43
They had a great time with my letter and they're like, it's on
23:46
our Patreon. And I was so excited.
23:49
Soon as it dropped, I listened. I couldn't stop laughing.
23:53
I. Did they make it like funnier
23:55
than what yours was or? Like my letter was hilarious
23:58
because I am pretty freaking funny.
24:00
I. Did not say you weren't with
24:02
your face. That's.
24:03
Kind of what I heard anyhow, but it was really funny and it was
24:08
fun to hear cuz I thought I didn't know how much they're
24:09
gonna drag me, you know, because, well, they can do that.
24:12
You're like, hey, here's my thoughts and they're gonna have
24:14
their opinions about it. But I, you know, I thought that
24:17
it was very nicely done and they only had a few little critiques
24:20
about things. But did they side with you?
24:22
Yes, yes. That it wasn't cool for you to
24:25
have run across the entire airport to get there in time.
24:28
That was one of the problems I had.
24:30
I gave. That to me was the biggest.
24:32
Thing. What?
24:33
Really. Where they were like, yeah, you
24:34
can't actually get on the plane. We sold your seat to someone
24:36
else and you were like, but I'm here and I have the ticket.
24:39
Here's the ticket. Right.
24:41
No, that was not the worst part to me, but I.
24:43
What's the worst part to you? So I'm not going to go too much
24:46
into detail because it's like an hour long discussion And yeah,
24:49
that's. Like talking.
24:49
About something else. But I would encourage anyone who
24:52
was listening who was curious, you know, reach out, maybe we'll
24:55
talk about another time or listen to Petty Crimes on the
24:58
Patreon to hear the episode. It was just released.
25:03
It's hilarious. And I would encourage you to do
25:05
that. So, but I wanted that story for
25:08
our podcast. And then I got to thinking, we
25:10
don't need that story. That's what we can use it
25:13
whenever we want because. We have lots of crazy stories.
25:15
We've had to deboard a plane. I don't remember deboarding.
25:18
Oh yeah, it was that was the time when we were going to.
25:22
It might have been our last Florida trip before child
25:26
arrived where we got rerouted. Our flight was supposed to go to
25:31
Fort Myers and they had to take us off the plane because there
25:35
was a there was like a broken part of the plane or something.
25:38
But we had sat on the runway for like an hour and then they made
25:41
us get off the plane or like that plane's not flying today.
25:44
That's literally what they said. We were like, what?
25:46
Oh my goodness, this. Bird's done.
25:49
Oh, thank. You we were like, good.
25:51
I'm glad we got off the plane and found out before we were in
25:53
the air anyway. And then we got on another
25:57
flight, but we were really mad because they made us to get to
25:59
our destination on time. In our case, I don't know, this
26:03
was everybody, but we had to go to Tampa, which is like 2 1/2
26:05
hours north of Fort Myers. Right.
26:08
Right. So that was one of the times we
26:09
had a sort of a crazy thing happened to us.
26:12
We've had, I mean, I would say in general, we don't have too
26:15
many crazy things that happened to us.
26:17
True. Well, the craziest one that ever
26:18
happened to me was the one in Arizona where, Oh my goodness,
26:23
they just kept, I mean, plane after plane after.
26:26
No, we're not flying this well, you got bumped off of this one.
26:28
Bumped off of that one. I ended up sleeping in the
26:30
airport. Yeah, you're dead.
26:32
It was terrible. Well, and I think it's
26:34
interesting because we both have different times where we're not
26:39
feeling or being our best selves in, in, in their, in that
26:44
travel, if we're flying. Right, that was eloquently put.
26:46
I. Know, so I want to say like in
26:48
levels of emotional unrest. Uh huh.
26:53
Like for me, it's totally on the plane.
26:56
I'm a freaking nervous wreck. I just want to get off the plane
26:59
as soon as possible. I don't want to hear anyone
27:01
talking about bad things on a plane.
27:03
I don't want to see a movie or anything like that about a
27:06
plane. Nothing.
27:07
Don't. I can't even stand to hear.
27:10
Well, I'd rather have snakes on a plane versus what my brain is
27:12
doing in imagination. But I hate when they come out
27:15
with the safety card and they're like, oh, these are the things
27:17
I'm in the. Event of a water landing and
27:19
you're like these things. Right, right.
27:21
I'm just like, I don't want to ever think that that's a
27:23
possibility, you know? So that's where I'm just
27:26
completely at unease and Luke a little different place.
27:30
Yeah, I get a little bit, I get a little bit hot at the airport.
27:34
Yeah. Before the plane part happens.
27:37
Yeah. And this has been a thing since
27:39
forever. The whole time we've been
27:41
together. Probably maybe my whole adult
27:43
life and it all just hinges around it's, you know, do we
27:46
have enough time? That's, and that's kind of like,
27:49
I think a lot of my life is like that cuz I don't like being late
27:53
for anything really. Well, OK, you're shaking your
27:58
head. But for the most part, I mean,
27:59
I'm sure there's exceptions, but for like, I'm not a person who
28:03
wants to get up at the last minute to go to work.
28:05
I like to have some, you know, nice comfortable lead time.
28:10
So if I work at like 8:00 or 9:00 in the morning, I want to
28:13
get up at like 5 or 6 and have conkers.
28:15
Well, I mean, but for me, I feel comfortable with that because
28:19
then I've got, I don't need to feel like I'm in a rush.
28:22
I could just have everything work out real nice.
28:25
And I think it's like that not just for, I mean, I like to get
28:28
to movies a little bit early. Like I don't want like it, you
28:31
know how you got 20 minutes of previews or 30 minutes of
28:34
previews and the movie starts at 7:00.
28:36
I don't want to get there at 7:00.
28:38
I want to get there at like 6:45 because then I feel like I got
28:42
time to, you know, do the pre movie stuff before.
28:45
I don't know. I like being to places generally
28:47
a little bit early and I don't think there's anything wrong
28:50
with that. I don't think there's anything
28:51
wrong with that being something you like, right?
28:56
I will say like if you just lived in your own bubble, that
29:01
would be fine. However, almost all the time
29:05
when you're traveling, you aren't traveling alone.
29:08
That's true. And you want the whole world to
29:11
be how you are. More of a like a need.
29:16
A need? Yeah.
29:17
Do you understand the difference between a want and a need?
29:20
I do. OK.
29:21
You would like everyone to do what you want to do, but at the
29:25
time you want to do it. So let's say we have a 8:00 AM
29:28
flight. OK.
29:29
We never have a 8:00 AM flight. You like to fly at 6:00 in the
29:32
morning, you're like we need to be up 4 hours before the flight
29:37
to be at the airport. All these things, you know and
29:39
all of that. I personally don't think you
29:42
need to get up that much earlier if you're prepared the day
29:44
before, you know, like it just the whole you're frantic.
29:50
And. And sometimes not very nice in
29:52
your franticness. Not sometimes all the time.
29:55
Very unkind. Well, it's a known sum and I'm a
29:59
predictable person. I don't, I don't know about
30:03
that. I mean like.
30:05
It's definitely predictable. I mean, it's predictable, but
30:08
you know, it's like you're not usually as easy to set off as I
30:13
know when we're flying, you know, that you're going to just
30:17
be, you know, it's like kind of just steer clear out of Luke's
30:21
way. I mean, you're making me sound
30:23
like I'm some sort of anger. I'm not saying that problem
30:26
person. I just want to be clear that I'm
30:28
not not saying we're talking about getting getting getting
30:32
anxious and bitchy. We're not talking about getting
30:34
mean and four letter word. That's a 5 and 6 letter word if
30:38
you add to Y and then and they say it on TV now so.
30:42
That's fine. Yep.
30:44
I mean, I will. So anyhow, there's you're
30:47
wanting everyone to do your way and I'm like, if I'm going
30:51
somewhere, if I'm on vacation, it starts immediately after my
30:54
last second of work. So if that's a day before at
30:58
5:00, I'm done. Then at 5 O1 I'm like, I'm on
31:00
vacation, you know? I like that.
31:03
Yeah, yeah. And so I feel even before I get
31:06
to the airport and when I'm at the airport, I'm not on vacation
31:08
in the airplane that is not a, it doesn't count.
31:11
But every other moment around that, I'm on vacation.
31:14
So feel good. I feel cheery.
31:16
I feel just at ease. And I'm a I'm a pretty, pretty
31:19
easy person on vacation. I'm I'm fine with all everything
31:24
except if we're late. Well, OK, Luke, let me ask you a
31:28
question. Yes, and ladies and gentlemen,
31:31
this is the moment I have been waiting for all night.
31:35
In this corner, claiming to weigh in at 125 lbs, we have the
31:40
red haired spicy amber. Go ahead.
31:45
He's ready. And heated people.
31:48
He's so heated. I don't know why he's so heated.
31:50
He'll maybe reveal it during the show.
31:52
But in this corner we have Luke, who is wearing.
31:55
Seriously, I think this is such a bird, such a cute shirt.
31:58
This the orange bird from Florida.
32:00
He's just makes me happy, the bird.
32:03
Check out the video, people. The bird's.
32:05
Cute. Yeah, he's really cute.
32:06
Anyhow, we have Luke and he is claiming to weigh in at over 185
32:11
lbs. I don't know how much less than
32:12
that. Got a nice beard here.
32:14
I think if I tickle it, he might be a little nicer to me.
32:17
Oh no, no, I was wrong. We are also a little contentious
32:23
today I think because there is no clear winner on our debates.
32:28
We are at a tie. Maybe it just means we either
32:31
pick good topics that people are into or we're good at arguing.
32:35
Or we're bad at arguing. I don't think so.
32:37
I don't either. I feel like I would not want to
32:39
get in the ring with you or me if I was any of the people I
32:43
know. No offense, any of the people I
32:45
know. Most people aren't willing.
32:46
I'm just saying we're we're like pro level arguers.
32:50
Yeah, most people or they'll. Just I got points and counter
32:53
points on stuff I don't even know about yet.
32:55
OK, well, great. So talking about things you
32:57
don't even know about what? That's the question I have for
33:01
you. OK.
33:03
Is Luke do you? Out with it now.
33:11
So wow, he's even impatient. OK, fine.
33:14
Now it's like we're about to go fly somewhere.
33:16
I'm ready. Let's go.
33:18
Somewhere is there. OK, so do you have to get to the
33:21
airport 2 hours before your flight?
33:25
Why? Do you?
33:27
No, no problem explaining the answer to that.
33:29
Not why do you? First of all, yes, yeah, because
33:36
pretty much all of the airports for a point of clarity that are
33:43
international airports recommend that.
33:45
That's when you get there. They do.
33:48
That is a recommend hour and a half to two hours is the
33:50
recommendation at Minneapolis International Airport, which is
33:55
like probably one of the smaller ones for Minneapolis versus
34:00
like, I mean versus Chicago, New York, you know, like we're a
34:04
we're a big metro to us, but we're a small metro to the rest
34:07
of the country. So if you get me to AI mean I
34:10
might add some time on to that. If you were in LA or New York, I
34:14
might be like we need to put another half hour on there.
34:16
And then you also they add time if you're flying
34:20
internationally, which we've done also many times, we're
34:24
supposed to add another half an hour for customs.
34:27
So the answer is yes, you should get there super early.
34:31
And because in our house, there's a specific reason it's
34:34
because if we don't, I am a hot mess.
34:39
I mean, I want to have everything lined up.
34:41
We got to know when's, when's the transportation showing up to
34:45
our house to pick us up or are we driving to the airport?
34:47
I got to know that because it changes when we leave.
34:50
Also, I got to know about, sometimes I want to know more
34:54
than the day before. Also, I got a plan ahead for
34:57
traffic. I got a plan ahead for parking.
35:00
I mean, I got a plan ahead for there's all kind of stuff and
35:03
that's not even you got to the airport yet.
35:04
How about sometimes you get to the airport and your plane
35:07
moved. Sometimes you'll get to the
35:10
airport and you'll think, well, the plane is at gate number H9
35:14
and you get there and they'll be like, Oh no, it's not.
35:16
It's at B12 and you're like what?
35:18
B12? That's the whole other side of
35:20
the airport. That's the problem because you
35:22
now you just had like 15 minutes of walking.
35:25
How you going to account for that if you just get there like
35:27
an hour or an hour and a half early?
35:29
I'm just saying, and, and the standard boarding time is 45
35:33
minutes ahead, unless it's an international flight, then it's
35:36
an hour. So I'm just saying there's a lot
35:38
of situations going on here where there's a lot of little
35:42
cracks and holes where if you don't get there with ample time,
35:45
what if you have a traffic issue?
35:46
What if you what if you get a flat tire?
35:49
What if What if when you are trying to find a parking spot,
35:54
you can't and you end up finding a parking spot that's further
35:57
away or it's on a different parking level?
36:00
What if you get into the airport and you have a problem at the
36:03
security check in or it's a busy travel day and you need to like
36:07
wait in the line way longer? What if when they're checking in
36:10
your bags, you're over the 50 LB weight limit and you got to move
36:13
stuff out of one bag into another bag or throw something
36:15
in the trash and you got to make a decision about what you're
36:18
bringing back or what you're leaving it.
36:20
I mean, all the list goes on and on and on.
36:24
And then how about when you get to the boarding?
36:25
What if there's a problem border that happens sometimes.
36:28
I've seen that sometimes people, they'll be bored and it'll be a
36:32
problem and they'll be like mad and causing a scene and then
36:34
that slows the whole boarding process down.
36:37
There's just so many things and so many variables.
36:40
I could probably go on for hours and hours, but you know, for the
36:43
sake of the listener, I won't do that.
36:45
I would just say the answer to this is yes.
36:48
And this is coming from some seasoned veteran Flyers.
36:52
I mean, if our count is right and we're close to 50 times.
36:56
Over 50. And that would make it way over
36:59
50 airplanes because you add in connecting flights from back in
37:03
the day and different airports. We've gone through all the
37:06
major, I think we've gone through every major airport in
37:08
the United States. Whoa do.
37:12
You know what? We haven't gone.
37:13
Through I don't know. The Denver airport.
37:16
Have you gone through the Denver airport?
37:17
Yeah. Did you know about that?
37:18
Airport. Sky Harbor.
37:19
Isn't that what it's called? No, that's Phoenix.
37:21
Phoenix. Is Sky Harbor No?
37:23
No. Maybe it's Mile High.
37:24
No, that's the stadium. No, it's like DIA or something
37:27
like that. Denver International Airport.
37:28
Wow. Yep, it's DIA.
37:30
You're gonna tell me they're the best airport or something?
37:31
I'm not gonna tell you they're the best airport, but did you
37:33
know that there's a lot of conspiracies around?
37:35
That you have said this to me. There's like some supposed to
37:37
live someone lives there. No, no, no, no.
37:41
But there is. There's a lot of conspiracy
37:44
people were saying, like it was built by the New World Order or
37:47
maybe it's ran by the Illuminati.
37:49
OK, well the banter section of this day has been passed, so
37:53
we're in debate mode right now. Wow, you can't talk about
37:55
anything other than yours. I can't believe you wanna bring
37:57
up the Illuminati right now. I'm on a roll.
38:00
I thought you were done. Oh, you thought I was done your.
38:02
Your topics here you. Had to take notes and you I.
38:05
Did have to take notes. You can't even keep up with how
38:08
it would listen. What if your what if your taxi
38:10
was late? What if what there's I get even
38:14
a little a little bit right now I can actually feel my blood
38:17
pressure and heart rate. Even getting mad.
38:19
Being I, I could feel almost like the anxiety as if this were
38:23
to happen because we've had crazy stuff happen.
38:27
Not often, but. Enough.
38:28
Like here, I was so traumatized by the, I think what is it,
38:33
2019? I don't remember when I got
38:35
stuck in the airport in Phoenix. I mean, that made it worse
38:39
because she put me through a couple of bad situations in the
38:42
airport and I'm like, well, I know what fixes this.
38:44
Get here earlier because that's the answer.
38:46
It's not outside of them rounding the plane.
38:49
Which they did to you on that air on that.
38:52
Scenario. That's a different scenario, but
38:56
most of the time the problems are related to not getting there
38:59
on time, which we just had happen when we came back from
39:02
Florida. We were late, not because it was
39:05
anyone's fault, we just didn't plan ahead and we thought we
39:08
were going to. Oh, you want to think this is my
39:09
fault, please, whatever. Anyway, we had met a friend in
39:12
Florida. We had a great day.
39:13
We were hanging out and we just didn't leave in time.
39:16
We thought we had enough time and we didn't.
39:18
And then the traffic was worse than we thought it was going to
39:20
be. Turning the rental car in was a
39:22
little bit more problematic than we're used to because it was on
39:24
like a whole nother floor and you had to take an elevator and
39:26
a tunnel to get to the anyway. So there was that and then
39:30
checking in our bags feeling already very late cuz I think we
39:33
got there like 1 hour ahead of the flight time.
39:36
And then we did have to do that weight thing where they say
39:38
you're over 50 lbs. So now you gotta move something
39:40
out of the bag and do another bag and then reweigh it and then
39:43
and then and then we get to security and go to security and
39:48
our daughter forgot to empty her water bottle.
39:50
I. Thought you said the background
39:51
discussion time was. Over.
39:53
No, I said banter was over. We're in debate mode.
39:57
I'm giving you reasons why you gotta show up early.
39:59
So when your child forgets that she has water in her water
40:01
bottle, guess what security says?
40:03
What's in this water bottle? And you go water and they're
40:06
like, you can't go through security with that.
40:08
And I'm like, cool, dump it out. And they're like, Oh no, you
40:11
it's not that simple. You got to go Outback through
40:13
security, dump it out yourself and come back through security.
40:16
And I'm like, well, hold on. What's the difference between
40:19
just dumping it out right now in front of me anyway?
40:21
They wouldn't let me. So I had to go out of back all
40:23
the way around, back to the front of security, dump the
40:25
water bottle out, come back through security that adds
40:28
another, you know, whatever, 710 minutes, who knows?
40:32
And then you ride the little tram over.
40:34
What if the tram doesn't? I'm just saying there's so many
40:37
things. And then and then you get over
40:39
there and what if the gate moved?
40:40
I don't think the gate moved on that one but they did lose one
40:43
of our bags because of how late we showed up.
40:44
Which. No, that's not they.
40:46
Actually, per set, actually, they got two of our three bags
40:50
on the plane. But I'm betting you money, real
40:53
money right now, we'll never prove it, but I bet you a clean
40:55
hundred that if we'd have got there earlier, they've figured
40:58
it out. OK, And then, and then you get
41:01
on the airplane. Now I'm done.
41:03
Probably. Maybe.
41:04
You're not. I'm sure we'll see.
41:06
So just just really quickly about that plane that or.
41:09
I'm still mad. That air I know you are.
41:11
This is what I lived with before hopping on a plane every
41:14
freaking time. Like just in like I I can't
41:18
even. But to be clear, that's only if
41:19
we're not there early enough. This is not true.
41:22
That is true. I can't even talk to him about
41:23
anything that is maybe light hearted or phone or something
41:26
like that. You even know.
41:27
Shut down everything if it doesn't go my way.
41:30
That if we get there early enough, I'm actually pleasant.
41:33
No, I did not actually say. OK, you sure did.
41:35
I'm sure that's not. OK, well maybe that's what our
41:38
child said. Because early enough is not
41:42
necessarily what you and I think are not necessarily the same.
41:44
Now back to that lost bag, which is always a problem.
41:47
It wasn't actually lost because we were late.
41:50
It was selected for additional screening and there was a note
41:55
in there that had been processed.
41:57
Like the TSA had actually looked at that bag.
41:59
That's why our bag didn't make that flight.
42:01
Had nothing to do with the other.
42:03
Day. I bet it had a water bottle in
42:04
it. No, no, actually it had.
42:07
So you remember our well, we had a few things that were in there
42:10
that we bought as souvenirs that were apparently problematic.
42:13
And they're like, but everything that you had in here, they said
42:15
something looked off, but everything that you had in here
42:17
actually was OK. So they had inspected our bag,
42:21
extreme inspect, inspection of our bags.
42:23
So that had nothing to do with it.
42:26
Now I don't think you need to be there 2 hours early because
42:32
personally I have flown one time, well twice on my own and I
42:38
was not there two hours early and there was no need.
42:41
Now I happen to be a far less, I am not uptight before going on a
42:48
flight because here's the thing, everything's going to happen the
42:51
way it needs to happen. My getting there two hours
42:54
early, if I've already planned what I'm doing with my vehicle,
42:58
if I'm parking there, if I'm taking a taxicab, those
43:00
decisions already made, I don't need to leave an extra hour on
43:03
top of anything on top of that to be at the airport 2 hours
43:06
early. I don't need to do that.
43:08
I figured that out. I think part of this is a
43:10
planning scenario that maybe I do in my head, then maybe you
43:13
don't. Now the concept of gait changes
43:16
that you were talking and by getting to the airport, you're
43:17
like, hey here, it's at gate H and then you end up going to
43:20
gate G or whatever. Before I get to the airport.
43:24
When I'm traveling with you, we don't have our tickets.
43:27
We don't know what gate we're at, right?
43:30
We don't know until we get into the airport what gate we're at.
43:33
So getting there early, if they change that, it's not going to
43:36
make a difference if I'm past security, if they change the
43:39
gate or if I'm not because they're going to change the gate
43:42
regardless. And that has nothing to do with
43:43
that 2 hour or 1 1/2 hour window.
43:46
I mean, if they've changed it at an hour and a half out from the
43:48
flight, I would know that when I got my ticket.
43:51
Then they instead of it saying H, it'd be like you're at gate
43:53
G. Great, I'll go to gate G.
43:56
So I'm not understanding this, do you?
43:57
Want a little update because I need to tell you you actually
43:59
get your gate on the boarding pass which you get mobile leave
44:02
before you get to. The air, which would be
44:03
wonderful, but you never give me my boarding pass.
44:06
You need to hold everybody's boarding pass, so like you just.
44:10
I've also had a gate change when I was at the gate.
44:13
Great. Getting there two hours early
44:14
wouldn't change that because then that means everybody is
44:17
going to be going over to the next date and there's going to
44:19
be a delay. A lot of the things you talked
44:21
about were actually delays. Deep breathing.
44:27
Were actually delays that would have happened whether you got
44:31
there an hour and a half early, 2 hours early or not because it
44:33
happens to be on the other end of it, right?
44:35
Like if you're talking about things changing at boarding,
44:38
well, good God, it wouldn't matter if you're there two hours
44:41
early, it's still going to change a boarding, you know,
44:43
which is, according to you, 45 to an hour beforehand.
44:46
So like that is that is sort of an interesting thing.
44:50
And and you were talking about boarding boarders who would slow
44:53
down the flight. That's why you also have to get
44:55
there two hours early. That doesn't make any sense
44:56
because if there's someone boarding the plane who's slowing
44:58
down the flight, again, it doesn't matter if you're an hour
45:01
and a half early or not, you know, like to two hours, that
45:03
would make a difference. So I think a lot of what you're
45:08
your concerns are, well most of them are outside of your control
45:13
of getting there two hours early.
45:14
And so that's why I don't, I mean it doesn't necessarily make
45:19
you feel any better. But for me when I get there an
45:21
hour and a half early, all of these same things could happen
45:25
or not. And I'm totally fine with either
45:28
way. What I don't like that we have
45:30
to do when we go to the airport, one of the many things is like
45:34
charge through the airport to go to the gate and then after we've
45:37
gotten to the gate, then we can go do other things unless.
45:40
That's because then we know everything is OK but it unless
45:43
there's a plane issue. Right, right.
45:45
But I'm like, I know the boarding's gonna be in, you
45:48
know, 30 minutes or whatever. The flight's not supposed to
45:50
take off because we get there two hours early.
45:52
Because you do lose your flipping mind.
45:54
We don't need to. We can just take our time, you
45:56
know, and you know, maybe I want to grab some food or I want to
45:59
look at a shop, you know, and you're just no go.
46:03
We must go and then you can go back.
46:04
I'm like. Well, that's not true.
46:05
We always get food. I eat all the time when I'm at
46:09
the airport. Always get.
46:10
Food and we go to little shops every time.
46:12
Right after you've walked to the gate.
46:14
It's because we got there two hours early.
46:16
If you got there a half hour later, you got no time to do it.
46:18
Well, no, because I would still just do it on the way to the
46:20
gate. But we're not saying we're not
46:23
saying airport arrival. We're talking like get to the,
46:26
the, the, the, the location. Yeah, two hours or where you
46:30
have to park. And so I'm not talking like in
46:33
the door. I'm talking arrive there, which
46:36
has always been the thing. Well, preferably the thing for
46:39
me, yeah, I'd take, I'd take 2 1/2 if I if I could get.
46:42
It. I know you would, but.
46:44
You won't let me. I have 0 desire to.
46:46
Sit in an airport for another hour.
46:48
Do you happen to remember the one time that you were like, we
46:51
must be there 2 hours early and we get there two hours early?
46:53
This has happened more than once.
46:55
Yes, because you like to fly early in the morning, You like
46:57
to be on that first flight. That's right, I do.
46:59
And there's been more than one time where we sat at the airport
47:02
and the airport wasn't even open.
47:04
Yeah, so like they don't even and.
47:07
These are even international flights full of times.
47:09
Yeah, a handful of times. And it's just like we're just
47:11
sitting here waiting. We can't get past security.
47:14
Go look at anything. Yeah, that's like when we got
47:16
there at 5:30 for a 730 flight, but the airport opened at six.
47:19
Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying I don't really
47:21
see this. But how nice is that?
47:22
You're there. It's not.
47:24
Yeah, I could have been home. Sleeping for another half hour
47:27
instead of sitting there just waiting and doing nothing to
47:30
maybe you know, distract some of where your anxiety is before the
47:36
boarding the plane. You're not fine until you board
47:37
the plane. Once you board the plane, you're
47:38
like perfect, no more trouble. That's true.
47:41
My anxiety is once I'm on the plane so.
47:44
But that's coming. And like you said, to counter
47:46
what you were talking about, that's coming regardless.
47:49
I agree. I agree, but like I'm just
47:51
saying I could have more time doing other things than sitting
47:54
in a flipping airport waiting and running back and.
47:57
Forth that's not true because the extra 30 minutes you want
47:59
would be stuck with me losing my mind that's.
48:03
What I do, I just wake up later so they don't.
48:04
Have to sure you think I'd let you sleep?
48:07
Anyhow, I think it's ridiculous to be at the airport 2 hours
48:10
early for most flights. I can see some flights,
48:13
especially if you know you're going to be traveling
48:15
internationally. OK, fine.
48:16
We're talking about national. I'd say 2 1/2 if it's
48:20
international. I'm not.
48:21
We're not even gonna have that debate.
48:23
Thankfully, we don't need to have that debate right now.
48:26
But I'm saying that's a little bit of overkill.
48:28
And for our airport, it's not needed.
48:31
For many airports, you don't even need an hour and a half.
48:33
But for our airport. What airports do you not need an
48:36
hour and a half for? Ones that we go to out east.
48:40
OK, sure. Like the Little?
48:41
Like like Burlington or Syracuse or.
48:44
Or when I went to Baton Rouge, that most is a beautiful.
48:47
Airport. How many?
48:48
How many? Real quick, How many gates did
48:50
they have? I don't know 4.
48:52
Yeah, that's, I think like Burlington had four, Syracuse
48:55
had eight. It was.
48:56
So cute, and the people there were so nice and everything
49:00
started off so great on Yeah, sure.
49:02
And then it went extremely down. I think the bigger the airport,
49:06
the more early I wanna get there.
49:08
I think I maybe I don't really I think, yeah, I don't want to.
49:14
I mean, and now that we have pre-check and all of those
49:16
things, the concept of getting there so much earlier is just
49:19
wild to me. So my my vote now that we've
49:23
done that, especially is that no two hours to our airport for a
49:27
national flight or to most people's airports.
49:29
OK I'm gonna say LAX and that horrible 1 is a GfK that I don't
49:35
like or LA. Guardia.
49:36
Yep, both. GfK I don't like either of them.
49:39
And DC's got a couple that are rough, like Ronald Reagan, DCA.
49:44
That one's tough. Yeah, that's the one with those
49:46
crazy Star Wars looking buses where they have like the big 8
49:50
foot tall tires and you like drive back and forth.
49:53
It's those are weird, right? I'd actually like to own one of
49:56
those just to drive it around. That's interesting.
49:58
But anyhow, that's that's my answer is 2 hours is excessive
50:02
most of the time and I no, I don't think you need to be there
50:06
that early. I think it just honestly adds to
50:10
the anxiety of not being able to relax.
50:14
Well then I appreciate that you've already semi conceded the
50:18
argument in real life by allowing us to get there early.
50:20
Because I am a freak show. You are a freak show and if
50:23
anyone noticed like. So I appreciate that you have
50:26
increased your anxiety preflight by decreasing my anxiety
50:31
preflight. I appreciate it but it's pretty
50:33
rough because I know I'm bad. You do.
50:35
For sure. You are not an.
50:37
I'm not. I'm not a.
50:39
Self knowledge you. Don't wanna like hang out with
50:40
me pre flight. No, I like you said, you Get Me
50:44
Out of the airplane. It's all good.
50:45
Now we're on the airplane. Yeah, you're all good.
50:47
It's night and day, I mean, but like I have to live with you
50:50
from that. It's just.
50:52
It's also a little rough on the day of the flight getting the
50:56
bags to the car and doing the final house check and I'm a
51:00
little bit of a mess. The second you wake up.
51:03
The good news is we go on vacation after after that part
51:06
and then we're there. Yeah, see my I'm telling you,
51:09
I'm telling you the way I live, it's vacation.
51:12
The moment I'm done with that work for however long, it's
51:17
nice. Well, here's open.
51:18
Our next vacation has a nice two hour plus no airport arrival.
51:22
No, no. That gets us to a great,
51:24
beautiful destination. We could meet at the airport.
51:27
Not in a million years cuz then your lack of presence would make
51:32
my anxiety like even worse. Ohh my goodness.
51:36
You could. I'd be freaking out.
51:37
What if you're not gonna get here on time and you're gonna
51:40
miss the flight and you're we've almost missed a flight before?
51:43
We have missed a flight before, but that wasn't our fault.
51:45
That's right. We got stuck in DC for like 12
51:47
hours. Yeah.
51:48
I don't know if it was 12 that. Was probably my brother's fault.
51:51
I don't know. Well, I mean, it was the free
51:53
ride's fault, but I'm not gonna. So they were like, you can't
51:57
board the plane. It's an hour until your flight
51:59
and we're like, well, I could totally get to that gate within
52:02
an hour. Yeah.
52:03
It's the thing that drives me bonkers when the air cuz this is
52:06
one of the things that happened. And they don't tell you.
52:08
They don't tell you. They don't let you try.
52:10
Yeah. They're like, oh, well, you
52:11
won't make it. You're like, well, I'm fast.
52:13
Yeah. You don't watch me run.
52:14
You don't know, I mean, like that's the thing, like he was
52:17
talking earlier about the flight that I had, you know, written
52:19
into this. That's.
52:20
All Rouge. Yeah, well, the Baton Rouge was
52:23
not the problem. Baton Rouge Airport if you
52:25
happen to have to fly into Louisiana.
52:27
No, it was your connector. Yeah, it was a beautiful flight.
52:30
Beautiful. Well, no.
52:33
Yeah, Beautiful flight, beautiful airport.
52:35
People were so friendly and kind.
52:37
I just. I still felt like I was being
52:39
taken care of. It was.
52:40
Just cuz they're just living down there off beignets and
52:42
crawfish. I know.
52:43
Well, anyhow, that was one of the problems was that the
52:47
airport, assuming I couldn't make it into a flight that I
52:50
knew I could make it to, I will Macaulay Culkin and I have
52:53
Macaulay Culkin across airports to make what I need to.
52:57
But also when I was in Chicago, in that airport, I had to
53:00
Macaulay Culkin run because just like in that hallway, you need
53:04
to do it. I should be seeing everybody
53:06
running up and down that hallway.
53:08
It was so fun to do. But anyhow, if I think if I can
53:11
make it, let me make it. Let me try.
53:13
I want to get on the plane. You want to get on the plane.
53:15
Yep, like don't even say I can. Plus you paid for the ticket.
53:18
Right. Just let.
53:19
I mean let it happen. Well, they like to open.
53:21
Now you said Macaulay Culkin got me thinking about Home Alone and
53:23
Christmas. Oh God, I did.
53:26
Oh, that's your fault. No, no, no.
53:27
I love. Christmas.
53:28
Well, happy November, everybody. Happy November.
53:31
Yes, but anyhow, that's where the bait.
53:33
I don't think you need to be there 2 hours early.
53:35
Luke does vote for whoever seems more reasonable.
53:38
Me. Oh it's for sure me to avoid all
53:40
the problems in stress. You're not avoiding any of them.
53:42
They all still are gonna happen. That's not true.
53:45
Based on my notes that I took, well, that's because.
53:47
You didn't listen to all the things that actually slow you
53:49
down, like traffic and and. So how do they vote for us,
53:52
Luke? On Spotify is the real true
53:55
answer. You can also vote on social
53:56
media, but we'd like it to get more just to Spotify because
53:58
it's easier for us to keep track of.
54:00
A lot easier. Yep, Yep, Yep.
54:02
What should they do? They should check us out on any
54:06
of the platforms that they see us on and then tell their
54:10
friends that we exist there. Yes.
54:12
Like Apple, yeah, and Spotify, which we're on right now and.
54:18
We're on all the platforms. Iheart and Yep, I don't know.
54:21
You should share this with your friends.
54:22
Yeah, and share this with your flying buddies.
54:24
Download it before a flight. Yeah, and get there early.
54:28
I mean, get there whenever you need to, but share it.
54:32
Follow. Follow us so you can find out
54:34
when the next great episode is coming out.
54:36
It's predictable. Yeah, it is.
54:39
Yeah, it. Is but you get the reminder like
54:41
it pops up on your thing like hey, these people are back on
54:43
and rate US. Yes, please.
54:45
We're currently five stars. I realized that today as well.
54:48
We can't. Do it too loud cuz it'll be yeah
54:50
but 5. Watch now.
54:51
Somebody will just drag us. Please don't, but whatever
54:54
comment, we love your comments. We'd love to see what you think
54:57
about us. And we don't really know how we
55:00
do until after we listen to it a little bit later.
55:02
So I'm feeling a little chill about it but.
55:05
I'm excited we got to do microphones.
55:07
It sounded pretty good on the last podcast.
55:08
It sounded really good. Really good.
55:10
And if you have the ideas, write them in to us.
55:12
Yeah. Yeah, wheels up people.
55:14
See you next time. Bye.