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Monday Mini: Pride and Coming Out Day · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.
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  Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I never told you production of
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  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and welcome to a Monday MANI today is October sixteenth,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and this one's late. Sometimes we do
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  Speaker 2: one that's late, but I was interested in learning more
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  Speaker 2: about about it, so I thought, you know what, let's
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  Speaker 2: look into it late than never. Yeah, better late than never.
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  Speaker 2: So Atlanta Pride was this last weekend as we record
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  Speaker 2: October eleventh through twelfth, with the theme of Rooted in
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  Speaker 2: Resistance and so. Atlanta Pride was established in nineteen seventy,
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  Speaker 2: making this it's fifty fifth year. Up until two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and eight, it was held in June to coincide with
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  Speaker 2: National Pride Month, but it moved to match up with
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  Speaker 2: National Coming Out Day and October in part because the
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  Speaker 2: weather in Atlanta in June is no joke, it's very hot.
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  Speaker 2: October is much more pleasant. Nowadays. It attracts about three
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand attendees every year, and in fact, if you
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  Speaker 2: are a listener who tunes in often, you'll know. I
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  Speaker 2: recently had my mom. I've been trying to meet up
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  Speaker 2: with her. She was going to meet up with me
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  Speaker 2: that weekend and I said, nope, the traffic will be horrendous.
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  Speaker 2: And I was correct. The traffic was horrendous because I
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  Speaker 2: live near where it's held, which is nice for walking
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  Speaker 2: but terrible for driving and parking. The story goes that
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta Pride came about after the police raided an Annsley
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  Speaker 2: Mall movie theater showing that Andy Warhol film The Lonesome Cowboys,
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  Speaker 2: and they rated it because it was quote provocative. It
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  Speaker 2: was a home eerotic comedy. That's that's how it was
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  Speaker 2: described at the time. I haven't seen it, so I
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  Speaker 2: can't say, but that's how it was described. It featured
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  Speaker 2: a scene where two cowboylike men kissed. This was in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine, and it was kind of a big
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  Speaker 2: deal that it was showing in Atlanta. Like I read
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  Speaker 2: a lot of quotes about it, and people who were
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  Speaker 2: there at the time were so, like, this is a
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  Speaker 2: movie that's only showing in New York and now it's
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  Speaker 2: in Atlanta. You know, that kind of thing. But that
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  Speaker 2: meant that it was big enough that the showing drew
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  Speaker 2: anti gay protesters. Within fifteen minutes of the film start,
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  Speaker 2: the police began their raid and they claimed they were
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  Speaker 2: there to find gay people and the audience and uphold
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  Speaker 2: obscenity laws, and to do this they frisked the men
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  Speaker 2: against the wall. And for some this was a real
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  Speaker 2: wake up call. I think that Atlanta is an interesting city,
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  Speaker 2: not that it's entirely unique, but a lot of people thought,
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  Speaker 2: like Atlanta was so progressive, they're showing this movie. It's
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  Speaker 2: just a movie, and then this happened, and it was
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  Speaker 2: just really clear that there was a lot of backlash
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  Speaker 2: still to this progress and it was a time when
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  Speaker 2: conservative communities were pushing back against the gay community. Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: was fairly progressive in some ways, but yeah, there was
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  Speaker 2: still a lot of pushback, and this was a real
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this before. This was a
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  Speaker 2: time of a lot of ideas changing and people fighting
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  Speaker 2: against them if they didn't like them. The gay community
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  Speaker 2: was fighting to be seen in a part of the conversation,
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  Speaker 2: and so in nineteen seventy one they held their first
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  Speaker 2: parade with over one hundred marchers, and they were determined
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  Speaker 2: to be seen and heard. The fight is ongoing as
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  Speaker 2: we jump ahead. In two thousand and nine, the gay
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  Speaker 2: bar The Eagle was rated by police all the patrons
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  Speaker 2: were ordered to lay on the ground as police ran
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  Speaker 2: their IDs. The owner of the bar and a few
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  Speaker 2: other plaintiffs filed a lawsuit against the city. They, alongside
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  Speaker 2: the Southern Center for Human Rights representing black folks who
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  Speaker 2: had experienced similar things, settled for about one point five
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  Speaker 2: million dollars. The city apologized, and the APD instituted LGBTQ
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  Speaker 2: plus sensitivity trading. Obviously, while there has been a lot
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  Speaker 2: of progress with what we're seeing right now, with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of rollback, we have to keep fighting. Also of note,
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta Black Pride got started in nineteen ninety six. It
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  Speaker 2: takes place the week leading up to Labor Day. About
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  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people attend, making it the largest Black
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  Speaker 2: gay Pride celebration in the world, and Raquel Willis has
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  Speaker 2: been one of the marshals of it. Our good friend
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  Speaker 2: the show. Yes, So that's sort of Atlanta Pride in
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  Speaker 2: a nutshell. But I originally was looking into the history
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  Speaker 2: of National Coming Out Day. So National Coming Out Day
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  Speaker 2: was first founded in October nineteen eighty eight in response
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  Speaker 2: to the AIDS epidemic and the anti gay Reagan administration
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  Speaker 2: at the time. A lot of people were in what
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  Speaker 2: is called the glass closet, which is sort of out
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  Speaker 2: but not officially out. People were getting outed when dying
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  Speaker 2: of AIDS, and that's how family members were finding out,
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  Speaker 2: and oftentimes they weren't accepting about it, even though someone
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  Speaker 2: was on their deathbed. Author, editor and advocate Gene O'Leary
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  Speaker 2: pushed for gay rights through litigation and really made a
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  Speaker 2: lot of progress with the Carter administration and not just
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  Speaker 2: around gay rights, but gay rights. But then Reagan was
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  Speaker 2: elected and a lot of that ground got lost. On
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  Speaker 2: October eleventh, nineteen eighty seven, O'Leary marched on Washington with
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  Speaker 2: around two hundred thousand others demanding gay rights and funding
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  Speaker 2: for AIDS on the anniversary of the March of the
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  Speaker 2: following year. O'Leary wanted to come up with something to
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  Speaker 2: showcase that people knew gay people and that they weren't
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  Speaker 2: just the caricature created by conservatives, like they weren't just
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  Speaker 2: in San Francisco at these marches, you know they're your neighbors, right.
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  Speaker 2: So O'Leary, along with doctor Robert Eichberg and some others,
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  Speaker 2: came up with the idea of a day where everyone
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  Speaker 2: came out together. Some people thought it would never work,
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  Speaker 2: but they went along with it anyway, putting together resources
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  Speaker 2: to help people if they were nervous about it, how
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  Speaker 2: to do it. All of that and people did it.
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  Speaker 2: It was a really emotional time for a lot of folks.
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  Speaker 2: The message of the campaign which did highlight what was
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  Speaker 2: going on with AIDS, and you can still find the
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  Speaker 2: video hammered home the message coming out is a political
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  Speaker 2: act of courage. In recent years, some have questioned whether
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  Speaker 2: this day is still important, but many argue that it
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  Speaker 2: still is. It is still scary for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people to come out, even though embracing that identity is
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  Speaker 2: something to celebrate. Some who came out on that day
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  Speaker 2: remember them of it like it's a significant day every
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  Speaker 2: year for them, how meaningful it was, and how younger
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  Speaker 2: folks might experience the same thing. I read a lot
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  Speaker 2: of parents thinking about their children having this day. And
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  Speaker 2: here's a quote from Kyle Gomez in parade. When is
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  Speaker 2: National Coming Out Day twenty twenty five and what does
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  Speaker 2: it mean for members of the LGBTQ plus community. Quote? Truthfully,
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  Speaker 2: coming out never ends. There will always be new coworkers, teachers,
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  Speaker 2: and friends that you tell while in the back of
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  Speaker 2: your mind you wonder if this news will change their
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  Speaker 2: opinion of you. It shouldn't and it more than likely won't,
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  Speaker 2: but it does serve as a reminder of why we
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  Speaker 2: recognize this day every year, and speaking of ACE week
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  Speaker 2: is October nineteenth through the twenty fifth of this year.
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  Speaker 2: So as as longtime listeners know, I kind of came
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  Speaker 2: out on the show, and actually that's how some people
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  Speaker 2: found out about it. Yeah, but yeah, I do think
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  Speaker 2: it is important, and I think it's good to know
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  Speaker 2: the history of it and remember why it is important, right.
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  Speaker 1: I know, when we feature so many people around the
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  Speaker 1: world and our activists around the world, when they talk
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  Speaker 1: about having their own pride in their country, they take
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pride in the fact that this is
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  Speaker 1: a thing and how significant it is for them that
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  Speaker 1: in itself is an act of rebellion and being able
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  Speaker 1: to come out in that way in countries where they're
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  Speaker 1: afraid to because they're still being persecuted and prosecuted for
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  Speaker 1: their orientation sexual orientation. So we know it's significant because
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  Speaker 1: it is caught on around the world and it's huge
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  Speaker 1: and it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely so to everyone happy Pride. I know not
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  Speaker 2: everybody does in October, but a few places do do
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  Speaker 2: it in October, not just Atlanta. And yeah, we hope
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  Speaker 2: that you're all well. If you want to share any
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  Speaker 2: stories about this, we would love to hear from you.
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