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- 2:44Mike.
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- 2:45Mike, welcome back to the show tonight.
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- 3:00Brandon, welcome back to our show on Monday.
- 3:03Thanks for having me, as always.
- 3:05It's always a joy.
- 3:06Yes, sir.
- 3:07And you happy New Year.
- 3:09Yeah, happy New Year's tomorrow, man.
- 3:11Two more days.
- 3:11We're going to have the new year, 26, and then we're going to count down.
- 3:14It's a year.
- 3:15I mean, we could go into this whole thing about Bondi and Epstein and all the other stuff.
- 3:20But are we still on Epstein?
- 3:22Oh my gosh.
- 3:22We're still on JFK.
- 3:24Remember, Ford covered it up, and they're still covering it up.
- 3:27Now Bon Gino's going to go home and hope that his podcast is still good on Rumble.
- 3:32And maybe he'll open a couple more restaurants with Tucker.
- 3:35But we'll see what happens in Florida.
- 3:37The grift continues.
- 3:41So the three of us are pretty pretty pretty grown-up men.
- 3:45And the reality of the fact is Trump is going on a year.
- 3:49Yeah, he had some wins, he had some hits, misses, whatever errors.
- 3:53But in the foreign policy, which you have done well on our show on our network, Michael 2.
- 3:59In the foreign policy arena, I I don't know if this is what you call the clown car or the redo or how do you get to the midterms and lose everything?
- 4:08What do you think?
- 4:08Let's start it up with Brendan right here.
- 4:10Go ahead.
- 4:11I think that the president uh on foreign policy has been uh schizophrenic.
- 4:18I think on certain issues, he's been okay.
- 4:21I think on many other issues, though, he's completely dropped the ball.
- 4:24And I think his his quest to get the Nobel Peace Prize, he hasn't actually solidified any peace deal.
- 4:31Uh, whether you're looking at the India-Pakistan war, whether you're looking at the Thailand Cambodia crisis, uh, the larger, more important issue of Ukraine, Russia, uh, or all the good crap going on in the Middle East.
- 4:46Um, the president is not the peacemaker in chief that he said he was going to be.
- 4:51In many respects, he's uh playing a lot like uh a Democrat would.
- 4:56Remember, Wilson and FDR both campaigned on keeping America out of Europe's wars, uh, World War One for Wilson and World War II for um for FDR.
- 5:07And as soon as they got the ring, uh, as soon as they got re-elected, they immediately went to work on basically pushing us into the the great conflict.
- 5:15And I and it's a similar pattern, sadly, uh, with President Trump.
- 5:19He could have very easily, very easily ended the Ukraine war.
- 5:23He could have made the case this wasn't my war, and indeed it wasn't.
- 5:27Um, but by May of this year, he pretty much abandoned his quest for peace.
- 5:32Uh, and from there on it's become his war.
- 5:35And we are we are very much in the at the the openings, the non-kinetic phase, uh, the shaping of the battlefield, if you will, of a third world war, a war that we are not going to win at this rate if the procurement process, the acquisitions process at the Pentagon is any indicator.
- 5:52Yeah, you know, all right.
- 5:53So go ahead, go ahead, Mike.
- 5:54I was gonna go to you anyway.
- 5:56Go ahead, sir.
- 5:56All right, I think you're exactly right.
- 5:58And I think he really doesn't have uh at times.
- 6:02I think he's he's tone deaf.
- 6:04Yeah.
- 6:05American people, the American people don't give a good damn uh about any war except one that involves their kids.
- 6:12Yep.
- 6:13And so what if he he fixes a war in Africa or he fixes a war in Asia?
- 6:18You know, it's nice, I guess, but as long as he's as long as the war light is is burning brightly on the White House for using our troops for these stupid wars.
- 6:29He's really it's really self-defeating.
- 6:32He really doesn't understand in some aspects of of government what the American people really want.
- 6:38Yeah, and he must not be having anybody stand near him and say, listen, this is not what we the Americans want.
- 6:46They want jobs, they want reliability, they want stability, and they want their kids not getting killed in God forsaken places.
- 6:54That's right.
- 6:55Well, and and also remember, um, he's now importing 600,000 Chinese students.
- 7:02He's now making it easier.
- 7:04Uh, he, you know, they made the big announcement this weekend was uh, hey, we're going to uh get rid of the H1B lottery or the the immigration lotto system, and we're gonna replace it with a quote more meritocratic system, which on the face sounds really great, until you realize what that means is big tech is going to be given basically a green light to bring in as many Indian and Chinese and overall foreign uh engineers and programmers, uh, because they're gonna be paid less uh than what the Americans would be paid.
- 7:39Uh, the these these young people graduating with STEM degrees, science, technology, engineering, math.
- 7:44Well, even entertaining, why are we even entertaining paid less?
- 7:48Let me just, you know, as someone who understands this H1B stuff really well.
- 7:52What is the difference if you pay a little more?
- 7:55Because in the end, you're paying more anyway.
- 7:58You understand?
- 7:58You're gonna bring in for every one of those H1Bs you bring in.
- 8:02Eventually, there's a girlfriend, a wife, and then you know, the family extension.
- 8:07We've done this for years.
- 8:09Yeah, they've done it with gas stations, hotels, Dunkin' Donuts, franchises, they jumped in front of the line every seven years.
- 8:16They can redo the franchise agreement where another nephew, another uncle, somebody comes in.
- 8:22So, what we're doing is uh big tech.
- 8:24Now, you talk about you you guys talk about it, and he talks about it, tariffs.
- 8:29Why don't we just put tariffs on big tech?
- 8:32You know, they're moving all you saw what they did to skirt the deal.
- 8:35They're gonna move the jobs to India.
- 8:37So anything that comes from those per those companies who move to India, let's make a tariff.
- 8:43Let's make it nice and easy, right?
- 8:45What do you think?
- 8:45What do you say about that, Brennan?
- 8:47I think that I actually think that if left to his own devices, Trump might actually do that.
- 8:52The problem is that Trump is basically he's gotten into bed with the so-called broligarchs who are all the tech overlords.
- 9:00Uh, everybody needs to remember that 18 to 24 months ago, Mark Andreessen, Peter Teal, um, uh, all of these tech bros uh that jumped on board the Trump train last year.
- 9:14They were, if not never Trump, they were certainly not supportive of Trump.
- 9:19Right in you know, going into the 24 re-election campaign.
- 9:23It was only after Biden, his uh tech czar told Andreessen and the tech bros, you are you might want to pull out your investments into AI because we're getting ready to classify artificial intelligence RD as a state secret, and only our approved vendors, Lockheed Martin and Boeing and those types of defense contractors will be allowed to develop it.
- 9:47And of course, Andreessen and everybody, you know, Larry Ellison and all these guys were up to their eyeballs in those investments.
- 9:54So they ran to Trump and said, Hey, we'll give you a crap pot full of money as long as you let us continue.
- 10:00Continue to invest and grow and become the exclusive uh benefactors of AI RD.
- 10:07Uh, and Trump said, fine.
- 10:08Now, this plays into that H1B role.
- 10:10The reason they don't want to pay uh these firms don't want to pay American kids coming out of college, uh, is because the American workers in their minds are going to demand more in terms of health care benefits and whatever.
- 10:25Uh H1B people, they bring them in.
- 10:28They don't have to provide that.
- 10:30This it's it's a it's a it's surf-like uh employment.
- 10:34And meanwhile, many of those immigrants are gonna actually go to the government and say, hey, we need welfare, we need certain benefits and they'll get it and they'll get it.
- 10:42And so this is how the American corporations basically defer responsibility onto the U.S.
- 10:49taxpayers.
- 10:50Like Walmart does.
- 10:51Yes.
- 10:52Yes, exactly.
- 10:53And you know, RFK Jr.
- 10:55actually, about a year or two ago, I heard him just describe it as socialism for the rich in terms of the benefits and uh, you know, cutthroat capitalism for everybody else.
- 11:06Um, and that I think he's right.
- 11:08And this cuts back into what Dr.
- 11:10Mike was saying, uh, you know, which is basically Trump is completely disconnected from what his own base wants.
- 11:18They don't want more wars, they don't want to see their kids going into conflict.
- 11:22They want to see their kids getting, you know, beneficial jobs, which, if not for these programs that are bringing in all of these non-Americans to work at surf-like levels of wages and and you know, existences.
- 11:36They would the the young Americans would be getting these jobs, and we would be having a real golden age in the United States.
- 11:43Instead, we're getting case-shaped economic horrors, and we will continue to get that under Trump because he is no longer committed to basically his own coalition because he doesn't need to get re-elected again.
- 11:55So he's just gonna do what the elites want him to do so long as they don't go after him and his family, which by the way, there's no guarantee of that, by the way, because if the Democrats do take back power in 26, they are gonna go right back after Trump.
- 12:07That's just how it's gonna be.
- 12:09Yeah, Mike go ahead holds Bayard this time.
- 12:12Kids, white.
- 12:13That's right.
- 12:13That's right.
- 12:14Everything.
- 12:14That's right.
- 12:15Even Baron, they'll go after him.
- 12:17Yep.
- 12:19It's a ridiculous situation for us to be in, but it's it's somebody, somebody's gotta get to him and just say, what the hell's wrong with you?
- 12:26Well, the problem is he's listening to people like Susie Wiles.
- 12:30And yes, you know, you look at you look at all those advisors, they're all part of the war machine, they're all part of the APAC machine, they're all part of the special interest bonanza that has dominated Washington for decades.
- 12:43And so, you know, Susie's brought a degree of discipline to the to with her that I think is good from a technocratic standpoint, but everything she's doing is in service not to MAGA, not to the middle class and lower class working class Americans who voted.
- 13:04She's she's a Bush Republican.
- 13:06She's a bushy.
- 13:07Uh, you know, and the only reason she left DeSantis's side uh after he became governor of Florida was because Casey DeSantis didn't like Susie and fired her the night of the election.
- 13:20And Susie basically went screaming to Mar-a-Lago, I can get the dirt on DeSantis, and Trump wanted that.
- 13:27He needed that uh going into 24.
- 13:29And that was the real reason why Susie ended up being such a you know a beloved member of the Trump circle.
- 13:36It's because she basically stabbed DeSantis in the back for Trump, and Trump hates to Santis.
- 13:42But isn't Miller calling the shots, Brandon?
- 13:45Miller's Miller has an outsized role just like he did in the first term, and Miller Miller is an egoist.
- 13:52Uh, you know, Miller was supposed to bring a bunch of us from the hill into uh the presidency with him uh in the first term, and he immediately pulled up the ladder behind him because he wants it to be the Stephen Miller show.
- 14:06And uh the tree house, you can't come up to let's that's right, exactly right.
- 14:11And you know, this is and and this has been a consistent problem with him.
- 14:15So, you know, ultimately, ultimately personnel's policy.
- 14:19I've said this ad nauseum on my show.
- 14:21I've said it on your show when you've had me on.
- 14:23Um, but ultimately Trump is not the Trump second term has been frankly 50% at best.
- 14:31That's an F rating.
- 14:33Um, you know, it could be worse.
- 14:35We could be under Kamala andor Biden.
- 14:37Oh, there was no way you could do the lefty hygiene.
- 14:40What are you kidding?
- 14:42You know, we would most of us would have had to flee to Argentina, probably because uh, you know, but but that but but it's very sad that that Trump has so quickly basically by the third or fourth month of his second term, he basically threw MAGA aside uh in favor of the elites, and the elites will betray him.
- 15:01They will.
- 15:02Yeah, and also, you know, we're going down the last two minutes, but I'll just throw this in because I don't want to waste a lot of time on it.
- 15:08I think uh the Charlie Kirk organization's done.
- 15:11It's be like you said it's the world that could uh what is it, the worldwide uh the worldwide uh uh wrestling match, you know, with the fucking works.
- 15:19Yeah, but to some degree it was always that.
- 15:22I mean, you know, it was always sort of that.
- 15:24I I you know they're done.
- 15:26They're done, they're cooked.
- 15:28They they I don't think they make six months, you know what I'm saying?
- 15:31Well, they'll they'll go on, they'll go on uh as a zombie organization because of all the money.
- 15:37They they will continue to go on in that way, just like national review has gone on far longer than it ever should have because they have all the money flowing into them.
- 15:46But ultimately, but ultimately, uh, you know, uh it they these are zombie organizations, and this is the real this is the real thing is going after, you know, be beyond 2028.
- 15:59The right wing is pretty much a dead uh entity.
- 16:02It's pretty much a it's it's a zombie.
- 16:05Um, and the left, yes, they're on their knees right now, but they're also biding their time.
- 16:10Uh the left organizationally, I still contend is much better than the right.
- 16:15Oh, absolutely.
- 16:16And they are just they're they're biding their time because they know come 2026, just like 2018, they will get a degree of greater power, and that will allow for them to basically have the snowball effect in the long run, where they can just chip away at Trump, and they've already got the groundwork in the sense in the in the case specifically of the Caribbean uh operations that are going on.
- 16:41Once the Democrats take back power of the House, they probably might even get the Senate if a bunch of those Republican squishes retire, uh, which I think they will, at least five Senate seats.
- 16:52Um, you know, once that occurs, the the Democrats will have ample, you know, capability to go after Trump for and specifically Heggseth for potential war crimes violations uh with the with the drug boats and also with this second container ship that was seized, the Hong Kong-owned um, I'm forgetting the name of the ship, but it was basically a legitimate container ship that we seized uh and we did it only because it was a Chinese-owned vessel.
- 17:22Um, but that is technically a violation of international law.
- 17:24But I don't think I don't believe in international law, but at the same time, uh, it still exists, and we are still signatories to many of these laws.
- 17:33And once the Democrats take back power in 26, they are gonna be able to go after Trump legally, just like they did in 2018, and it's going to basically turn his presidency into a lame duck.
- 17:44And that's the real reason, by the way, the Republicans have not passed any legislation since the summer.
- 17:49It's because they're waiting out Trump.
- 17:51The Republican establishment does not want Trump to succeed according to MAGA lines.
- 17:57They're happy.
- 17:58Alrighty, we got to take the break.
- 17:59You know that what happens now?
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- 20:46We're on the second segment with Brandon Wyckhart, one of our colleagues, Wednesday night show, Wednesday night, 8 p.m.
- 20:52You're on with us tonight, Monday night.
- 20:54Dr.
- 20:54Mike, Colonel Mike and Brandon was speaking about foreign policy.
- 20:57Guys, just in a quick on the second segment, I'd like to touch base a little bit with China.
- 21:02Brandon, I just was reading some information from friends over in Thailand and that area.
- 21:09And uh, you know, the Chinese is soft power that's so good.
- 21:13You know, they're playing the Burmese, but the play, you know, I know the Hunter guys there from years ago, the old guys.
- 21:18Uh they know how to play that card.
- 21:20They know how to play the China card.
- 21:21So what they're doing with the hunter, they're using that for state policy to sign agreements, you know, rare earths and other resources, and then they side with the uh territorial, let's say unofficial uh countries, such as the Shan, the Wa, the Kachin, and so on, and they're playing it very well.
- 21:41But what I see happening, and maybe you see it differently.
- 21:44I see Thailand was always like, you know, they're with us today, China tomorrow, but it's Sino Thai.
- 21:52It's almost 150 years of Chinese coming in and very prosperous companies in Thailand, you know.
- 21:59Uh but they're going to side with China because you know, America, we do things and we don't do things, but it's in their interest, it's in their backyard, it's a big trading partner.
- 22:09CP, big companies there, you know, billion-dollar companies who went in and helped build China, just like American companies.
- 22:17What do you see?
- 22:18I think we're losing Southeast Asia.
- 22:20I think people are like tired of hearing Taiwan and Philippines all the time.
- 22:24What do you what's your take on it?
- 22:26Oh, I think that um we've lost the first island chain.
- 22:30I think that it's all over, but the the shooting.
- 22:33Um, and I think that uh we're not going to get that back anytime soon.
- 22:39And furthermore, I think that if we continue acting like it's still the unipolar world order, like it's still 1995 and not 2025.
- 22:47Um, which means we have to accept, which is what we're not doing.
- 22:51We need to accept that we are in a very fluid tripolar world system.
- 22:57There's no longer one power, no longer the United States dictating terms.
- 23:01It is now a declining United States, a resurgent Russia, and a rising China.
- 23:06And unless our policymakers start really embracing this method of thinking, we are going to continue to overextend and we will deplete ourselves, which is what's happening now.
- 23:17And so, specifically in the case of Thailand and the Cambodia War and all the stuff going on in that region.
- 23:24Um, I think that we need to seriously and drastically step back and let the pieces fall as they may in these these parts of the world.
- 23:34We have no business being this integrated into what's happening there.
- 23:40Michael Yan is a friend of mine.
- 23:42I had him on my show.
- 23:43We know Michael, yes, we don't.
- 23:45Yeah.
- 23:45Yeah.
- 23:46And uh, yeah, another Mike.
- 23:48Um everybody I know is Mike's.
- 23:50Uh, but I had him on my show, and um he was saying, and he has a lot of experience in Thailand, and I and I don't know if this, you know, what to think of this, but he was telling me that he thinks we actually uh uh covertly triggered this new round of fighting between Thailand and Cambodia.
- 24:11And um, I think that's the new cold war, to be honest with you, Brandon.
- 24:15I think that's that's the new cold war.
- 24:17We're playing that we're playing that card.
- 24:19Remember, Cambodia, you know, when I was there years ago, Cambodia was right in the pocket of China.
- 24:25We allowed that to happen.
- 24:26Well, they have the Cameran naval base, the Chinese do, which is right on the Gulf of Thailand, and of course, the Gulf of Thailand has a lot of ontap natural gas deposits, and that's part of what this fight is over, is control over that.
- 24:39Yeah, but in the end, it'll be China that'll make the peace.
- 24:42By the way, we got to take that Nobel Peace Prize back from Donald Trump because he blew that.
- 24:47Remember, he said he made the peace.
- 24:48The FIFA, you mean the FIFA world piece?
- 24:50The most the most corrupt bargain I've ever seen in my life.
- 24:55What was what were they thinking?
- 25:00You know, it's all one big griff.
- 25:03That Gaza Peace Prize is still being molded.
- 25:05We're trying to get the guy to do the bronze.
- 25:07I guess it's the tacitus definition of peace, right?
- 25:10I've uh you've made a desert here and you call it peace.
- 25:14And then it's uh, you know, that's the Trumpian, uh, that's the Trumpian peace plan.
- 25:18But but you know, with with Thailand and Cambodia, so you know, Michael was explaining because I've somehow become for the national interest where I'm a senior editor.
- 25:27I've become sort of the de facto, you know, reporter reporting on these developments in Thailand and Cambodia.
- 25:33But I don't really, this isn't like that specific area, is not my expertise.
- 25:37So I've really had to like learn about it.
- 25:40Michael was telling me how basically um both China and the United States would prefer to see a Thailand that is basically a collapsed state because it's easier to basically push Thailand around.
- 25:53And Thailand, of course, not only because of all that raw mineral energy that they have on tapped in the Gulf of Thailand, but also there's this canal that they they're talking about.
- 26:04That's been going on since 1700s, the France.
- 26:06Right.
- 26:07But but now go ahead.
- 26:09I'm sorry.
- 26:10I was gonna say, but now it looks like this is actually becoming a very serious uh prospect.
- 26:15And there's a lot of people who are saying, hey, this is gonna negatively impact shipping routes in the Strait of Malacca.
- 26:21Well simple, yeah.
- 26:23But also remember the Chinese now are working a deal to get the roads from cuming, uh which is the closest to Thailand and get the inroads into Burma to do some kind of a rail system and then get the poor entry from from Myanmar or Burma, you know, Myanmar doesn't like Thailand either.
- 26:42Myanmar's got an issue with Thailand too.
- 26:44They they need them when they need listen, the hunters are really sharp operation.
- 26:48I dealt with these guys, the bad guy, the bad dudes back in the 1990s, trust me, they're really really good at what they do, and they know how to play ties.
- 26:56Now, I'm gonna give you a real honest opinion of being back and forth many, many years there on the ground in Thailand.
- 27:03It's like a prostitute.
- 27:05Today you're the guy, tomorrow China's the guy.
- 27:07Wherever they get the buck, they're not listening it's they have a democratic party there, just like we have here, which is you know, like a Nancy Pelosi Clinton operation.
- 27:16You know, they're very powerful, they're very popular, and any party that comes in the way, such as Toxin or others, it's it's actually Toxin T-O-X-I-N, you know, to the Thais.
- 27:27They exile the guy, they exile the guy because he was a billionaire, they stole his money.
- 27:31I mean, Thailand is Thailand makes uh well, really, America is really reaching uh as far as Thailand when it comes to corruption now.
- 27:39But it you remember that Soros bankrupted them, and we did nothing about it.
- 27:44Yeah, okay.
- 27:44Mahatia was the last man standing when I was there when Soros tanked the bot, okay.
- 27:50And Mahatia said, you know, we gotta hang the guy.
- 27:53I mean, Malaysia knew it was happening.
- 27:55The whole Southeast Asia went down that time, right?
- 27:58Yeah, because this is that was in what the the late 90s, early 2000s, right?
- 28:02That was the yeah, and that was Ruben Ruben was all over that.
- 28:05Now, what's his name?
- 28:06Um, the former head of the Clinton National Economic Um advisor committee, the the Robert Rubin.
- 28:14Robert Rubin, Bob Ruben.
- 28:15Yeah, he was all he was all over that.
- 28:18Um, and Soros, yeah, yeah.
- 28:20Soros is a play.
- 28:22I was in the delegation.
- 28:23I brought him in that time.
- 28:25The ministers and the and the uh parliament members to have meetings.
- 28:30And uh at the time, Clinton, I think we did we gave him the green light on the world, the IMF bailout and the world bank deal, refinanced them.
- 28:39Tarin was the great five minute uh finance minister Tarin, uh, who was their finance minister at the time.
- 28:46It took down the uh General Chavelet Prime Minister.
- 28:50He lost he had a step down because he defended the bot and it destroyed them.
- 28:54They wanted to three billion dollars in losses, but Tyrin got to pay it back.
- 28:58All the loans got paid back half the time.
- 29:01Yeah, uh, and I think America, when we met with Clinton's group that time, I think it was a one billion dollar grant kind of program.
- 29:09Heritage had nice meetings telling them how to learn learn the the ropes of bankruptcy.
- 29:14Now, in bankruptcy, you can't do that there because it's loose face.
- 29:17You know, it's like, yeah, no, if you go bankrupt, that ain't happening with the private companies, and we even had judges come in at the time to uh speak what heritage about training them into bankruptcy laws, you know.
- 29:28Yeah, but it's it's today you're the boyfriend, tomorrow you're the boyfriend.
- 29:31With them, they're always they're bipolar.
- 29:33You know, well, here's a story that I I I actually just wrote about.
- 29:35I don't think it's been published yet at the national interest, but there's an incident, uh, a battle that just took place between the Thailand Royal Army and the Cambodian army, in which the Cambodians took out a Thailand tank.
- 29:48It was a Chinese-made VT4 main battle tank.
- 29:52They just took it out with a Chinese-made anti-tank weapon system.
- 29:57Uh, and so you have an incident.
- 30:00Here and it's happening all over the border, apparently, where because we we we were told last year that we're earlier this year that well, China supports Cambodia, U.S.
- 30:09supports uh Thailand.
- 30:10Well, in fact, as you note, uh, actually, the the Thai's are using not just U.S.
- 30:16weapons, but they're using Chinese-made tanks.
- 30:18And now we're having these instances where China is basically supporting both sides uh of the war.
- 30:25And it's quite a it's quite a hilarious uh, you know, story.
- 30:28If if if you're a comedy writer, this is a dark comedy right here.
- 30:33Well, we lost Cambodia as soon as soon as they had Hu and Sa.
- 30:37We jumped on the wrong side on that one.
- 30:38We went with Sam Rancy.
- 30:40They wanted the literature.
- 30:44We should just avoid this stuff like the plague.
- 30:47Just do trade.
- 30:47Just all we got to do.
- 30:49Trade not aid.
- 30:50That's what we should be doing.
- 30:52Yeah, and that's something that's lost.
- 30:54Let Mike jump in for a minute.
- 30:55Mike, what do you say about this?
- 30:56Yeah, I just it's just bewildering to uh trying to figure out what our interest is there besides trade.
- 31:05And it almost goes for any place in the world.
- 31:08Yeah.
- 31:09We we have an industrial core that if it's managed correctly can take care of that.
- 31:13We're good traders, we're very sharp.
- 31:16But what in the world?
- 31:17Uh you know, we're we're watching China in some ways, and that my my knowledge of the region is very uh minimal.
- 31:26But I remember I I remember things that the Japanese did to inculcate themselves in Southeast Asia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand before the second war.
- 31:36Yeah, and and it it's kind of a you can you can see what the Chinese are thinking.
- 31:43Yeah, and it's the same deal when you hear Americans talk about American military and diplomatic people talk about Guam, the Philippines, and it's it's a losing, it's a losing bet.
- 31:58There's no way to defend those islands.
- 32:01Right.
- 32:01You know, we can't get enough people there, and uh we couldn't get enough people there in 1940.
- 32:06We can't get them there these days.
- 32:08It does, and it doesn't take an invasion of the by the Japanese anymore.
- 32:12It's the Chinese and their missiles.
- 32:14Right.
- 32:15They don't drones, Mike, and drones, and drones, and every other kind of thing.
- 32:19I I really think that's one of the most obvious places where this legacy of World War II lays is in the Pacific.
- 32:28Yeah, well, and um, you know, this has been an argument.
- 32:32I know Cleo Pascal fairly well, and this has been an argument of hers, is that you know, we fought and bled for these islands in World War II and the second island chain, and she wants us to be more involved there.
- 32:44Um I I am increasingly of the mind uh that maybe we need to be retracting a bit.
- 32:52Um, maybe we don't need to be forward deployed there.
- 32:55I don't I you know those were the island hopping campaign worked because it was an offensive strategy in a war.
- 33:01We are not at war right now with China, at least not officially.
- 33:06And uh, unless we're planning to go soon into some kind of bizarre, massive world war with China.
- 33:13I just don't know how we're gonna use those islands as anything other than easy targets for China.
- 33:18Yeah, that's exactly right.
- 33:20Yeah, it's it's extraordinary.
- 33:22You know, only the other thing we had in World War II is that we knew how to kill.
- 33:28Yeah, and we haven't been in a situation since World War II where we've been uh doing the necessary in terms of killing.
- 33:37Yeah.
- 33:38Yeah.
- 33:39Whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, whatever.
- 33:43It's it's constabulary.
- 33:46It's a constabulary thing.
- 33:47Yes, that's exactly right.
- 33:49Yeah, you know, Afghanistan is was just uh uh a ridiculous thing, and it's and we lost, and we lost, yeah.
- 33:57But we lost because we never took a look at what happened to the British three times and what happened to the Soviets.
- 34:05We we strutted around as if we were the ones who were responsible for the uh Soviets' defeat when it was the damn Afghans who are extraordinary fighters, and we gave them some weapons, the Chinese gave them a lot of weapons, the Saudis gave them a lot of weapons, Israelis, yeah, but but they never would take an order from us.
- 34:24That's right.
- 34:25What's the old saying?
- 34:26You can uh you can't buy an Afghan, but you can rent one.
- 34:29You can rent one as long as you don't insist on him doing anything he doesn't want to do because they won't do it anyway.
- 34:34I think Gary Bernston learned that the hard way at Torabora.
- 34:38It is it is a very hard thing, but you really should come to understand it right from the beginning.
- 34:44You should follow the history of what's happened there with foreigners, really, all the way back to Alexander.
- 34:50It's a it's a damn foolishness.
- 34:52That's what you when you hear our people talking about Afghanistan or Iraq or these other places, the Uguam and whatever.
- 35:01Um it's it's it it is like uh we're making the first historical record of things going on there, yeah.
- 35:11And for yeah, for us to be going back to Peleliu.
- 35:14Can you imagine?
- 35:15Yeah, that's well, that was as big a hellhole as there ever was, and now we're gonna go back there and pretend we're gonna have to get up on the Chinese.
- 35:23Very unlikely.
- 35:24And I don't really understand why we're not you know, on the one hand, the Trump administration did acknowledge the need to focus on the Western hemisphere.
- 35:35Um, of course, in my opinion, the way they're going about it is really ridiculous.
- 35:40Uh, you know, the the emphasis should be controlling the choke points, which is really the Panama Canal, not worrying about Venezuela.
- 35:48Uh, you know, and we're supposedly the largest economy in the world.
- 35:52Well, that should be our first point of entry when we go to try to woo people away from China or Russia or whoever, we should be saying, hey, do business with us, drop the Chinese.
- 36:05We're better uh, you know, partners to do business with, but we don't do that.
- 36:09We go in guns blazing and we go in threatening and we go in like it's gunboat diplomacy from the 19th century, but that's not the way things work anymore.
- 36:19No, look at Africa.
- 36:20Well, look at Africa, right?
- 36:23They went there with soft power, what, 25 years?
- 36:26That's right.
- 36:27That's right.
- 36:27China doesn't come in threatening.
- 36:29They in they they do you're right.
- 36:31And you know, this was a great book.
- 36:32Uh actually, she's a Goldman, she was a Goldman Sachs analyst, but she's from, I think Nigeria originally, Dambisa Moyo.
- 36:39She wrote a book called Dead Aid in 2006 or eight.
- 36:43And uh, I I read it at the time it came out, and Bono trashed it because you know it completely went after the bono brand of aid to these countries.
- 36:53And her argument was look, I'm an African, and I can tell you that you don't give money to poor people, you have to build their capacity up to do business, and that's only done through fair trade.
- 37:06Um, and she's in the book she highlighted at the time how China was sweeping across Africa because they were saying let's do trade, not aid.
- 37:14And they weren't, you know, and and of course, there's a lot of downsides to how China's doing this, it's very one-sided.
- 37:20But ultimately, ultimately, trade not aid should be the mantra for the US.
- 37:26You know who's doing the best job of that?
- 37:28Who's helping them to establish to be in trade is the seventh-day Adventist Church?
- 37:34It's the fastest growing church in Africa, believe it or not.
- 37:38So we're down to the last minute.
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- 39:51All right, welcome back to the final segment.
- 39:53You're on with Brandon Wycart, our colleague on the Wednesday 8 p.m.
- 39:57show.
- 39:57You're on with Dr.
- 39:58Mike and Colonel Mike, and we're going to go right.
- 40:00To Brandon.
- 40:01Brandon, okay, we just covered Asia.
- 40:05We covered a little bit about Africa, which is we lost it a long time ago.
- 40:09We they dumped billions of dollars down there, got nothing done.
- 40:12And now we're talking about South America.
- 40:15We're looking to get this hemisphere back in place.
- 40:17Dr.
- 40:17Mike, are you with us?
- 40:19I'm here, sir.
- 40:20All righty, go ahead.
- 40:21I wanted to one more thing about Africa, if that's okay.
- 40:24Yeah.
- 40:25About a uh, I don't know, six or seven days ago, five or six days ago.
- 40:29I re I read or heard that Trump had attacked something in Nigeria with the Air Force in cooperation with the Nigerian government.
- 40:40Yeah.
- 40:41And uh, I guess to save the lives of Christians, which if he had any kind of expert they would have told him beforehand that just is that just insures a lot more dead Christians in Nigeria, yeah.
- 40:56But once again, you know, I I've written on as you said earlier.
- 41:02I've written on this stuff and I've looked at it for a long time.
- 41:06And there's really only one thing you need to know about Muslim Islamic uh Islamist resistance, and that's to remember that um bin Laden died, but they've been fighting ever since.
- 41:26And we've Bin Laden laid out six different things that were the cause of his decision to fight us, and since his death, we have reinforced every one of them.
- 41:40Um from uh remaining in the in the in the holy land in Saudi Arabia to expanding our bases in the Muslim world to support countries that are dealing with uh Muslims in a vicious way.
- 41:58You never hear the world, the word Xinjiang mentioned anymore in the United States.
- 42:05Um we we uh in a kind of peripheral way, although directly at times Trump's um uh successful, thank goodness, uh campaign to raise American oil uh production, uh, is a direct attack on on the on the wherewithal of much of the Middle East.
- 42:29If we are becoming a major um uh producer and supplier, and you know, bin Laden said, Listen, you you've ruined our our uh industry because we we have foolish leaders that agreed to keep the prices low after 1945.
- 42:51We also continue to support Israel and support the the the um the tyrants, whether in Nigeria or Saudi Arabia or wherever else they are, and it's like it's like the whole Osama bin Laden war on terrorism thing never never happened because we can't remember anything that caused it.
- 43:13We look at this one attack raid on New York and Washington, but we don't realize that we're feeding the memory of Osama, but in a in it in a in a in a in a very unhelpful way, we're reinforcing all those things he said and wrote about in 1990, and which have been used to educate children in the Muslim world throughout throughout the time since then.
- 43:41And so wouldn't it wouldn't it be also Mike uh you know, let's face it, he said he'll wear us out economically.
- 43:47And didn't Reagan do that with the uh Soviet Union, and that's exactly what's happened to us now.
- 43:52No, Brendan.
- 43:53No, no, it's um we are the Soviet Union today.
- 43:56This is the last the last years of the Soviet Empire, is what we're living through.
- 44:00Um, there's a little bit more creature comforts, but ultimately, I mean, I again I talked to a friend of mine who's a former Soviet naval officer, Andrei Martyanoff, and he was in the Soviet military when the 80s well, you know, when the collapse was happening, and I he lives in the United States now.
- 44:17And I said, Hey, do you ever feel like you're might you know, repeating history?
- 44:22He goes, every day, he goes, I feel like I'm living at the end of the Soviet Empire again.
- 44:27Yeah, and you know, so that's that's where we are.
- 44:30Yeah, you you it's almost like we live in a time warp, yeah.
- 44:36And no matter what happens in that particular time warp, we never remember it.
- 44:40No, and right and you'd add that to our complete lack of common sense, it's a it's a terrible thing.
- 44:46And with Trump, it's especially important because there's no America after Trump.
- 44:50No, he is our Gorbachev.
- 44:52I think I've said this to you before.
- 44:54He is our Gorbachev, Biden was our Chernyanko.
- 44:58Um, and uh, you know, what comes next is gonna be a very scary uh 10 or 15 year period where the American superpower certainly is no more.
- 45:09Uh, and I don't know what our government structures look like afterward, but I can tell you what, it's not going to be anything we recognize.
- 45:16Um, about the Nigeria strike is interesting because I heard from people um you know in the Christian community who were saying the targets that were hit by Trump in this last week actually had nothing to do with ISIS.
- 45:33The village that was blown up had no ISIS in it, that it was the Trump administration attacked it, and that was not actually where the problem is emanating from.
- 45:43Was it was it an intentional era or what was it?
- 45:46Well, my under look, my I have a feeling that Sebastian Gorka's fingerprints are all over this strike, so I it was probably incompetence.
- 45:54Um, but confidence and a joy in murdering Muslims, yeah.
- 46:00Well, that's right.
- 46:01And uh uh, you know, I another person, it's interesting because you know, my our church down here is very much involved with helping the Christians of the persecuted church abroad, and I thought it was interesting.
- 46:13We had one of our our deacons over for dinner before the the the day before Christmas Eve, he and his family were over, and he was explaining to me because I had asked him, you know, what do you what do you know about what's going on in Nigeria?
- 46:25And he said, you know, it's interesting.
- 46:27He said, because he's a he's a real uh real estate broker by trade, and he still runs his real estate company.
- 46:33He said, you know, one of my largest investors here is a Nigerian, and he's still very much involved with what's going on in Nigeria, and he said that you know, this guy explained to him, my deacon, that um the stuff with the Christians has been going on for years in Nigeria, it is not right, and it's not actually right now.
- 46:52I was told, uh, he said it was not the worst it's ever been, and actually it's somewhat manageable right now.
- 46:59Yeah, um, for whatever reason, the Trump administration, and I think this is because of what the Israelis are saying.
- 47:05The Trump administration is trying to make uh make it louder than it is uh right now in Nigeria, and there's a political reason um for it, but uh personally I don't think we should look.
- 47:17I want to help the Christians too, but I don't think we should have any business getting militarily involved now in Africa.
- 47:23I mean, my God, at what point do we say enough is enough?
- 47:27We do not need to have military involvement.
- 47:29Africa is not even a point of concern anymore for us.
- 47:33The Chinese and the Russians have taken it.
- 47:35Trying to take it back is a waste of resources, time and money.
- 47:39And let's let's send Trump a Nigerian scam letter.
- 47:46Well, again, there's always a reason for why Trump does what he does, and usually it has nothing to do with whatever they're saying it is, exactly usually has to do with some grift going on.
- 47:58I mean, this is the most corrupt presidency I have ever seen.
- 48:02What do you think?
- 48:05Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, I I did hear that he was talking about the the rare earth mineral issue and the oil, but again, we have lost Africa.
- 48:15We are not gonna win it back by blowing up Africa, you know.
- 48:19This is gonna take decades and and and time through trade to try to win them back, and we don't have that kind of time frame.
- 48:26Well, we don't have any time, we're out of time, we're out of time.
- 48:29Over time, Brandon, you know, so it's gonna take away where there's a lot of rare earth minerals.
- 48:36Um, and one one one location, South America that I know of, too, if you include Venezuela, and then I have another one I know about in Asia, which I know the the Chinese is rolling at it, and uh if uh I may do a self-promo here for my friend who wants to go visit that country who wants us there to take their rare earth minerals, Mr.
- 48:58Trump.
- 48:59Please contact the two mics on America Outloud.news or at the two mics.com because uh they came here and showed you what they had, and then after that, all you wanted to talk about was your FIFA award.
- 49:11Yeah, they there was a country that actually came here, Brandon, and showed Mr.
- 49:17Trump, our president, all what they got.
- 49:20It's close to half a trillion, maybe more, and uh China's just by its stem trying to get it, and they said, Well, you know, it's not really there.
- 49:29Maybe we'll go with the Americans, even though they're not the best, you know, it's still better.
- 49:33Yeah, and uh they still waiting for a reply, and that is like warfight.
- 49:39No, of course they're not gonna get one.
- 49:40The Trump administration is uh completely outwitted by um reality.
- 49:47Um, and uh, you know, the it's I told them I'd put a costume on for Halloween to play Jared Kushner.
- 49:55If I play Jared Kushner and went to that country, take pictures, I bet you the deal gets all the.
- 50:00Need to do is name some big monument in this country after Trump and he will then become interested in it.
- 50:11Um, you know, I hear he's talking about renaming um more monuments in DC after himself.
- 50:18They've already renamed the Trump Kennedy Center for the performing arts.
- 50:22Um that is terrible though.
- 50:24Come on, that was so gross.
- 50:27This is just the beginning, and you know, uh, you know, this is the Trump show, and it's really gaudy, uh, and it's really lowbrow.
- 50:35And um, it's very sad to see, you know, I was an original Trump supporter in 2015 and 16.
- 50:41I helped to organize scholars and writers for Trump, which was the letter that you know, we were responding to Michael Hayden and all the national security supposed experts who signed those letters saying Trump was morally unfit for the presidency.
- 50:56So we got together our own letter basically saying Trump is basically he's the only hope we have, but it's very sad to see eight years later it has all come down to just one big grift.
- 51:07And uh, you know, I don't know where it's still the only hope we have, and he still is the only hope.
- 51:13Let me ask let me ask both of you have anybody put the down payment for the condo or trump heights in Gaza.
- 51:21Yeah, I mean, you know, how do you how do you see it?
- 51:25How do you look at anybody in America in the face or anybody around the globe and say, Oh, you mean that thing that happened?
- 51:31Well, it was a real estate deal.
- 51:33Yeah.
- 51:34Well, I think this gets back to what Dr.
- 51:36Mike was saying at the beginning, which is that most Americans don't care.
- 51:40And and I and I, and that's both a blessing and a curse.
- 51:43Most Americans, unless they're they're on the hook or their kids are being sent to fight and die, they don't even want to think about it.
- 51:50Now, that's a curse in the sense that it gives our leaders, so-called leaders, a lot of maneuvering room to do really stupid or bad things without being caught.
- 51:59But it's also a blessing because it actually makes somebody who's a real populist, it would make the job very easy for them.
- 52:06You wouldn't have to be an expert in foreign policy to take power.
- 52:09Just know, don't get us involved in any more wars.
- 52:12Focus on the economy.
- 52:14You know, this is how Bill Clinton beat George H.W.
- 52:16Bush, partly because it's the economy stupid, but Trump has lost.
- 52:20Brandon, you're your mic is breaking up there a minute.
- 52:23I don't know what happened.
- 52:24Can you hear me?
- 52:25Yeah, I hear you now.
- 52:26Yeah, uh, we'll blame, we'll blame the NSA.
- 52:28Um, but you know, Trump used to understand.
- 52:32Well, can't we blame Biden?
- 52:33Come on.
- 52:34Yeah, and he's doing that, but at some point, you know, it's like when a new coach takes over a football team.
- 52:39You give them a grace period to get their own players and their system in place, but eventually, you know, you can't keep saying it's the other guy's fault.
- 52:48At some point, it becomes your fault.
- 52:50Um, and I think we're reaching that point with Trump.
- 52:53And we're we're we're I I think that's exactly right.
- 52:56And I think the just one more we're down to the last five minutes.
- 53:00Shoot, bro.
- 53:00Just one more word on on Islam.
- 53:04The American support for Israel in the last uh decade has made that an issue much wilder in the Muslim world than it ever was before, because it found the United States joyfully eliminating uh people through the Israelis, whether it was in Yemen or in Gaza or almost anywhere else, which is good bad enough, but in that same decade, we have let hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Muslims into this country without any kind of vetting.
- 53:43Yeah.
- 53:44And this is not the world of uh uh uh uh 2001.
- 53:52That was a that was a tremendously better world, believe it or not, yeah, than it is now.
- 53:58Yep, and the ability for them to destroy things within the United States and cause something akin to a civil war, is being demonstrated right now in Britain.
- 54:09Yep.
- 54:10Although our major stations aren't covering it, you've got to watch it by uh video from from uh media.
- 54:19Yeah, yeah.
- 54:20I'm covering it on my show, but yeah.
- 54:22Well, good for you because I it's very hard to find anywhere else, but there's a lot of good shops, apparently, the social media shops in Britain, but you hear nothing from the BBC or anyone else.
- 54:32Well, and that's a snapshot of what's gonna happen here in another 20 years.
- 54:36And and you know, this is a common, you know, this is also another thing where we bomb these countries, we bomb them into submission, supposedly into submission, and then we bring all of the people we were blowing up, we bring them into the United States, and then we wonder why they want to kill us in our schools or in our uh, you know, because they're not integrating.
- 54:56Well, why don't they want to integrate?
- 54:58Well, they don't want to integrate because we blew up their countries.
- 55:00Well, we took away their economic too, because right, you know, when we send these corporations and CIA hitmen down there, you know, confessions of the economic hitman, uh, and then we, you know, for bananas or whoever it's gonna be black rock, vanguard, whatever.
- 55:14Uh they have nowhere to go but north.
- 55:17But it's also it's also, you know, we do support Israel on the one hand, but then we turn around on the other hand and we help a guy like uh he's calling himself Al Shira now, but you know, it's Jelani.
- 55:28We're helping ISIS take over entire.
- 55:31I mean, it's like we can't even figure out what the hell we're trying to accomplish.
- 55:36Another success story series.
- 55:37That's right.
- 55:37We're just making everything worse.
- 55:39That's why it's time for us to pull the ladder up, come on home, come to our part of the world, and worry about America first because what we're doing is not working.
- 55:51We cannot live with an occupation in our country.
- 55:53I don't care what anybody says.
- 55:54That's right.
- 55:55Well, that's that's true too.
- 55:56And and you know, that's another thing is that um, you know, I don't mind going after illegal immigrants, but my God, please, let's not become a police state in the process because that's where things are, it looks like it's headed, and it's very scary.
- 56:10Absolutely.
- 56:11And uh, you know, you look at what's going on in Australia, New Zealand, and Canada and Britain, it's all Anglo countries that were disarmed.
- 56:19That's not that's not the issue here at the moment, boys.
- 56:22Not right now, and there must be a lot of people with a little little itchy finger when they see what's happening in the streets in this country.
- 56:28And just remember, Trump was the one who imposed the lockdowns during COVID.
- 56:32Yeah, yeah, that was a Trump program.
- 56:35And the reason Trump hated DeSantis, my governor, is because as Trump said, you're making me look bad because DeSantis told Trump, I'm not gonna follow your protocols anymore because they don't make any sense.
- 56:47I'm gonna reopen my state.
- 56:49And uh, you know, Trump didn't like that.
- 56:51And he even sicked Chris Christie at one point on DeSantis uh to try to pressure him to stop that.
- 57:00Hey guys, it's the last minute.
- 57:02I hate to cut you off.
- 57:03This is a great conversation, but we gotta go.
- 57:06So let's thank our guest today, special guest colleague and friend on the Wednesday night show, Brandon Wycott.
- 57:12And he's also on Rumble, and that is National NAT National Security, right?
- 57:16National Security Talk, or you can look me up on Rumble Nat Sec Talk.
- 57:21That's what I thought.
- 57:21Nat sec.
- 57:22Okay.
- 57:23And uh thank you for joining us on the mission.
- 57:25Thank you for the national security hour.
- 57:29Thank you, sir.
- 57:30Uh tip of the spear in the epic battle to defend the United States of America, and we mean that again.
- 57:35We'll see you next Monday.
- 57:36Brandon, we'll listen to you on Wednesday.
- 57:38Happy New Year, everyone.
- 57:40We'll see you next year on the National Security Out.
- 57:43Thank you.