Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 716: The Rut Is RAGING (Janis Putelis Wisconsin Report | 11.8.23 RFR)

Transcript

Ep. 716: The Rut Is RAGING (Janis Putelis Wisconsin Report | 11.8.23 RFR) · Wired To Hunt Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: This is rout Fresh Radio. I'm your host, Casey Smith.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: It is officially white Taill Hot Week. Everybody is going wild,
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: including the big bucks. We have a big cold front
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: coming in this week across the country and everybody is stoked. However,
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: you still have to make the right moves. Let's figure
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: out what those are. This is Retfresh, Let's go.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: Welcome to rut Fresh Radio, brought to you by first
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: Light Gear. I'm your host Tyler Jones, and I've got
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: another host here. His name is Casey Smith.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: Finally, dude, I actually get to do some work for once.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Klein Joe has been holding it down the rough way
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: to go. It ain't that much work. It's not unless.
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: It's it's actually a lot of fun to get talk
• 1:09
  Speaker 3: to all these people, especially when you got you know,
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: guys like Jannis Ptellius on the phone with you. It
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: could just you know, tell you just stories that you
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: just key in on. Man. Somehow people like that can
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: just hold your attention so well, you know, and he's
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: been out there, you know, doing a bunch of stuff
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: up in the Upper Midwest. We've got guys from the
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: Midwest doing this. We got guys from the South this week,
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: but everybody is taking rut vacations to the Midwest, so
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: we wanted to have this week be a Midwest heavy episode.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: Why still radiates out from the Midwest for sure, it
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: truly does.
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: I love Texas.
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have a rich hunting culture here for
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: white tail deer especially, but I mean Iowa, Kansas, Illinois, Missouri.
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: That's just what you think. And the beauty of those
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: states man is like you can go hunt, you know,
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: your your uncle's property. It's one hundred and sixty acres
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: or public peace and you stand a chance of like
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: a big, big deer showing up. But in Texas you
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: kind of got to have some money to have, you know,
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: most of the time, right, not all the time.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: But you can feel great about a forty in hour.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just a it's a different different and
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: that's why it's cool. It ain't we ain't being critical.
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: It is awesome, sure, and I hope we get to
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: hunt there next year. Yeah, but it seems as if
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: the cold front has pushed through. There's been some hot weather. Yeah,
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: you made some choices bad according to hot weather, bad ones.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: Tell me about those choices time. Why do I have
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: to tell everybody?
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: It is? There's like thousands of people that are going
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: to hear how dumb I am. No, no, no, So
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: you you came home from a winter wonderland, my goodness,
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: and with a nice buck and toe potentially man potentially,
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: And then you know, we were fixing to get ready
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: to go on our kind of vacation and uh, we're
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what date and you're like, uh,
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna spend a little bit time with
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: the family and then go out this day. And I
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: was like, I was gonna go a day before you. Well,
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: I looked for my my E tag, but I was
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: looking for the physical version of this E tag. It's
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: what the EMS. I looked for like an hour and
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: a half, dude, I was. I tore my entire house
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: apart just my truck. I cleaned my truck pretty much,
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: but I did and could not find the saying I
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: was eating dust. I'm highly allergic. So I'm just sitting
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: there just sneezing and throwing a fit, you know. And
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: uh then I realized and finally I was like, okay,
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: this is it an e tag. I've never done any
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: tag before, so I don't know. Maybe so anyway, yes,
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: I looked for that for a while. I got tired
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: and I sit down and I look. I start looking
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: at the trail cameras from this area that we're going,
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, man, uh, there's like no daylight pictures
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: of bucks and hardly even doze over the last like
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: three days. And I start thinking, you know what, it's
• 3:58
  Speaker 3: been pretty hot attally, it's it warmed up a lot
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: after that cold front. And I mean in Texas it's
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: been in the eighties, you know. And so I'm just
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: sitting here thinking, man, let's just look at the weather
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: and see when the hot streak ends, well the ends,
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: you know Thursday for most of the country or whatever,
• 4:14
  Speaker 3: is when Wednesday Thursdays when kind of that cold front
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: starts to come in. And so I was like, okay,
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: well I'll wait a little bit later to go and
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: do some some hunting and lo and behold, instead of
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: leaving that morning and hunting that afternoon, I decided to
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: leave a few days later. Well, that next morning comes
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: and you know, no big deal. I think you had
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: just gotten home. I'm doing some work stuff. And then
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: that evening comes around when I should be hunting, and
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: there are some golden pictures of a Mondo eight point.
• 4:52
  Speaker 3: There's a couple in there in daylight in the last
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: few days. Yeah, so it's, uh, there's this thing, there's
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: this thing, there's a there's a there's a slope that
• 5:04
  Speaker 3: continuously goes up as it goes to the right on
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: the graph, and it goes up until it starts going
• 5:11
  Speaker 3: back down probably and like maybe maybe mid to late November,
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: but it's going up right now, and it is it
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: is rough movement essentially right and every day so like
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: you have another you have another line that can cross
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: this slope at any point and give you your amount
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: of deer movement. And it's called weather, right, and so
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: your weather can help at times, it can move that
• 5:38
  Speaker 3: point up and down this this slope of deer movement. Right.
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: So we got to the point where we're at the
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: point now where deer movement is about at the peak
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: that it can possibly be at on a standalone basis,
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: and then you know, the so that the weather doesn't
• 5:55
  Speaker 3: even affect this thing, and whereas like in the last
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: few days's weather kind of still affected it because there's
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: still not fully where the peak of that deer movement.
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: So the X Y data point for later this week
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: is real good because that's going to push it and
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: the weather's gonna be good.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: So that's the that's the kind of the shining piece
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: in this thing, is that your decision still might have
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: been good because I just checked the trail camera. There's
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: a brand new buck on there. Oh I don't know if
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: you shoot or not. It's kind of young, but he's big.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, one shooter years old. For me,
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you he's an eight point with long times.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: But that happens now. I'm just that's what I was
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: getting to.
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: I made a dumb point way too long, but like
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: a good point way too long by being dumb. So anyway,
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: the the the as the days go into November past
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: that first week, even I think you just even despite
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: weather being warm, you start to see And that's where
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: we got to where you know, we had we didn't
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: have quiet the rut influence and the testosterone influence to have.
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: It just was a perfect story of me looking at
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: cameras and then all of a sudden it's like, Okay,
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: well it's the fifth or sixth or whatever it is.
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: It's like it's time and they just show up anyway,
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: even if it's seventy to eighty degrees or whatever.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if you think Toder and I make good
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: decisions or bad decisions or indecisive either way, if you
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: want to hear more about what we think about the rut,
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: we've been doing a Rut Q and A. We've got
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: a ton of questions about the rut. So if you
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: go check out the Element podcast, we just launched a
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: brand new Q and A on that, and then also
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: coming up soon, if you heard a little allusion to
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: maybe a deer that might have went down up in
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: the North Country on some public ground, you want to hear.
• 7:40
  Speaker 3: That story, go check out the Element podcast as well.
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: We'll get into that.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: But today we're going to get into some rut hype
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: from a couple of guys around the country.
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: Who are those dudes. Well, so we've got our good
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: buddy read Struble, who's been on before at some point
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: in this season. I think he was the first week.
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: He sure was, and he he hunts that trifecta area
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: of the US where they don't really know where they're from,
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. It's like Indiana, maybe
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: Tennessee was even in there. So he's he's actually killed
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: him his first buck uh with a trad bow in Indiana,
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: uh this week. So he's given us a report from Indiana,
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: which is a state that you don't hear. It kind
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: of flies under the radar a little bit, but it
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: has the potential to have a big, big deer. In fact,
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: I think the number two typical from last year, the
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: number two typical in the world, came from Indiana, right.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: I don't remember, I believe. So do you know that
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: there are some giants there. I talked to a guy
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: a few years back that had a ranch there and
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: or a farm whatever they call him up there.
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: And monsters yep.
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: We also have like I mentioned earlier, our good buddy
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: Jannis Pitelis. He's been up in Wisconsin doing the Latvian
• 8:48
  Speaker 3: thing up there and hunting them deer, you know, is
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: that uh they call it Eastern Europe. Was that Wisconsin?
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: No Latvia? Yeah, sure, it's I don't know for sure
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: where it's at. There is a polka influence in Wisconsin, right,
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: That's what I remember when we did when we put
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: together the Illinois buck truck and we were real close
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: to Wisconsin, there was bunchreal tell me that that polka
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: music was big up there. Jake Hofer another good buddy
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: of ours, who's one of those guys like Sam Hogan
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: if you heard him last week. He is like just
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: the humble, laughy guy that pretends like he can't kill
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: here and then every year he ends up killing Mondo's.
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: And he also has got his thumb on the pulse. Dude,
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: Oh he does. He is tax show. Yeah, dude, I'm
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: letting listen. If you know this guy, do not tell
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: him Anything's okay. He will figure it out. He makes
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: fun of us for finding all his spots because we have,
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: but he will do the same back to you. So
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: you got to watch that guy, Jake Hofer in Illinois. Man,
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: he's got a good report. Killed a nice buck and
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: then uh oh, Lay McNasty from Louisiana down south hanging
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: out in the swamps getting mac nasty down there. He's
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: been out hunting actually in the Midwest in Missouri, but
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: he's now back in his I guess home state of
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: Louisiana and he's doing some hunting around there. So he's
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: got a good report for us from the South. Things
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: are starting to pop off there as well. So we're
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: gonna get all these guys on the phone and see
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: what is going on all throughout the Midwest and there
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: in Louisiana once again world famous read Struggle the man
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: who first made the mullet popular. What's going on, dude?
• 10:27
  Speaker 5: Man? That is quite the intro.
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: What's going on? You just interviewing a guy who's killed
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: a buck in Indiana? What about you?
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 10:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I'm just you know, been hunting really hard.
• 10:39
  Speaker 7: Talking to a couple of Texas guys that are that
• 10:41
  Speaker 7: are working hard right now?
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got you got someboddies up there that are
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: from Texas and y'all been deer hunting a little bit, right,
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: has it been?
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, it's been incredible.
• 10:50
  Speaker 7: This weekend just was pretty much textbook is hard a
• 10:55
  Speaker 7: pre rudders who could get cold fronts, you know, real
• 10:57
  Speaker 7: cold in the morning, good even sits warm up up.
• 11:00
  Speaker 7: And basically we had deer around us Saturday morning, saw
• 11:05
  Speaker 7: five deer, three bucks.
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: Two those I killed my buck on that.
• 11:11
  Speaker 7: Evening, Saturday evening, and then we killed two more bucks
• 11:16
  Speaker 7: yesterday morning on Sunday, the fifth in thirty seconds.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: That's maximizing right there. Okay, so we got to unpick
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: this just a little bit. How Okay, that's a special
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: thing to happen. What's the tactic because it had to
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: they had to be kind of connected, right, what's the
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: tactic that made that happen?
• 11:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so, yeah, absolutely, So the three bucks are separating
• 11:36
  Speaker 7: on two separate properties. But so mine was actually, you know,
• 11:40
  Speaker 7: hunting on private land and my folks.
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: Which was really cool. I killed my first buck with.
• 11:45
  Speaker 7: Traditional equipment, and he was working. He's right mouth open,
• 11:51
  Speaker 7: you know, working a bench and checking. You know, he
• 11:56
  Speaker 7: stopped for I actually shot him while he was moving,
• 12:00
  Speaker 7: you know, he basically never never really stopped. He's just
• 12:02
  Speaker 7: kind of slowly trotting through and shot him at eight
• 12:05
  Speaker 7: yards double lung, and he literally died in twenty yards.
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: Never knew it happened.
• 12:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was incredible, twenty literally with twenty Yes.
• 12:17
  Speaker 8: Literally with twenty just oh man.
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, incredible. He didn't even know what happened.
• 12:22
  Speaker 7: He stood underneath my tree and had the wobbles, you know,
• 12:26
  Speaker 7: underneath me, and then did a death dive and died.
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: It rolled down the hill at twenty yards.
• 12:31
  Speaker 7: It was while my buddy from Texas who drove didn't
• 12:35
  Speaker 7: sleep for thirty six hours, watched the entire thing happen.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: That's cool. That is cool.
• 12:42
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, died right in front of his tree.
• 12:44
  Speaker 10: It was incredible.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 12:45
  Speaker 7: So, yeah, he was working, you know, basically we're set
• 12:47
  Speaker 7: up on a bench, expect with the wind in our favor,
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: expecting him, you know, dear to be working that bench
• 12:54
  Speaker 7: trying to catch a set of a hot dough.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially, So cruising bucks is the thing, and you're
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: finding beach on terrain that do that. Or are those
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: deer using the wind mostly or is it they're just
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: coming in to a place they know does hang out
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: or what's that look like?
• 13:10
  Speaker 7: The three bucks that we've had less one of them.
• 13:15
  Speaker 7: One was a little different than the other ones, but
• 13:17
  Speaker 7: two were, you win, in their favor. They're working these
• 13:20
  Speaker 7: benches in the morning. We had killed the one working
• 13:25
  Speaker 7: a bench, you know, trying to catch those rising thermals.
• 13:27
  Speaker 7: And then my buck was at the lowest bench on
• 13:30
  Speaker 7: the ridge on the hillface and trying to pull those
• 13:35
  Speaker 7: thermals down to them, and we were set up.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: Just belowing, gotcha, gotcha? So are they heading? Are those
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: benches heading towards h food source or are they heading
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: towards doe betting?
• 13:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so the the one that both of them are
• 13:51
  Speaker 7: coming from betting going to a food source was the
• 13:57
  Speaker 7: travel root or vice versa. One was coming in one
• 14:00
  Speaker 7: of the morning, so they're basically going to the food source,
• 14:02
  Speaker 7: are coming back, and these benches are running from one
• 14:05
  Speaker 7: to the other. And then the biggest of the three bucks,
• 14:09
  Speaker 7: we rattled in and had him at I had him
• 14:12
  Speaker 7: at twenty eight, and he swung to get our wind,
• 14:17
  Speaker 7: buggered on us and went straight up the hillside and
• 14:20
  Speaker 7: walked fifteen yards underneath of my buddy.
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: His big, biggest buck of his life.
• 14:24
  Speaker 7: And yeah, I killed with his grandpa's compound, an old
• 14:27
  Speaker 7: eighty four oh night.
• 14:29
  Speaker 10: So that was really really cool.
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: It was an incredible experience and actually had to views
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: a had to use a drone to.
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: End up finding it.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: So we found it yeah, it was. It was very interesting,
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: but it did work. He went seven hundred yards.
• 14:42
  Speaker 7: It was a gut shot and found him seven hundred
• 14:44
  Speaker 7: yards and went and got him.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: The No One waist up in your neck of the
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: woods man, good stuff.
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, yeah, exactly all means necessary.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So in the next week, do you expect things
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: to be very similar?
• 14:57
  Speaker 7: I'm we've got the next couple of days just from
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: trail cameras.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: We just pulled a couple of cams.
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: Things are were really really hot for the over the weekend.
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: I think it's going to slow down.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: For a day or two. But we've got a front
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: coming in on Thursday, and I think this is going
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: to fire up in this weekend. Is going to be
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: really good.
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: They're they're pushing hard, and I've noticed it's been a
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: lot of younger bucks that have been pushing the dose.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know quite how many, you know.
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen a Doe and heat with five bucks
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: chasing their by any means yet, but I think there's
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: mature bucks this week into this weekend.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: It's going to be when you.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: See the you know what everyone's looking for with a
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: crazy I like to hear it.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: Man, So it's going to happen.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: You know, if you had to rank it on a
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: scale of one to ten, what are you going to
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: call it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: I'm going to give the next two days a good old.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: Five probably, but I'm giving Thursday to.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Saturday a nine.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a high number. Let's go. Well, appreciate it, man.
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put it put a
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: hot number. I think it's gonna be good.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: We're going to see some big We're going to see
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: some big ones get killed.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: That's awesome, dude.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: We'll congrats on all the success y'all are having up there, man,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: And I can't wait to see the next big book
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: picture you send us.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, appreciate y'all.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: On the phone, I have got Yannis poutell Us with
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: meat Eater. He is in Wisconsin hunting up some whitetail deer.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Giannie. What's going on, man?
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: H I'm hammering, man, I'm putting my rut cation.
• 16:35
  Speaker 11: Uh, it's gone from rut cation to the rout grind.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: That's what's going on.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where is the pivot point on that exactly?
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: I would say it's.
• 16:46
  Speaker 11: Probably around days six or seven for me, I think
• 16:49
  Speaker 11: I'm about nine days in, so I was, I.
• 16:52
  Speaker 10: Was, I was.
• 16:53
  Speaker 11: I was pretty high spirited all the way through that.
• 16:56
  Speaker 11: But uh, I also hit a buck and didn't recover it.
• 16:59
  Speaker 11: And so that's that's been a little bit of a low.
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: Point, a little bit of a hole I'm climbing out of.
• 17:03
  Speaker 11: But I got one day left and the weather's gonna
• 17:06
  Speaker 11: be nice and cool, and the wind's gonna be calm
• 17:08
  Speaker 11: in the morning. So I'm looking forward to hopefully one more.
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: Day of good rut hunting.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's good. I'm sorry you didn't recover that buck.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: But that's bow hunting.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a very cliche thing to say, but
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: if you are a bowhunter, you understand that for sure. Yeah,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you have a big time span there that you've spent
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: in the woods. See, I'm sure you've got to see
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: like the rut come alive almost, which is like a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: really great privilege. But what have the deer been doing
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the past few days there in Wisconsin?
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: Uh, just the past few days?
• 17:40
  Speaker 11: You know, when I when I shot my bot, he
• 17:43
  Speaker 11: was on his feet at three point thirty in the afternoon,
• 17:46
  Speaker 11: just cruising, just caughting across dough trails that led from
• 17:50
  Speaker 11: a ridge down to h to a course to a
• 17:53
  Speaker 11: standing corn field. And I knew I had a half
• 17:56
  Speaker 11: dozen you know, trails going up and down from the dose,
• 17:59
  Speaker 11: and a.
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: Trail going across all of them.
• 18:01
  Speaker 11: I figured, you know, some bucks would be cruising it,
• 18:04
  Speaker 11: and sure enough he was at three thirty.
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: Just about every day.
• 18:09
  Speaker 11: This week, I've had all day activity of some cruising
• 18:13
  Speaker 11: of some sort. Surprisingly, the only day that I've actually
• 18:16
  Speaker 11: seen a buck with a dough was October thirtieth.
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: Now that was the one day I saw.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: A big front. I guess, huh, one hundred percent.
• 18:29
  Speaker 11: Like I got in here right when that front got here.
• 18:32
  Speaker 11: I was probably I was one day late. I missed
• 18:34
  Speaker 11: the first day of it. But now I was in
• 18:36
  Speaker 11: the tree on the thirtieth, and yeah, they came by
• 18:40
  Speaker 11: me right at first, like it was too dark still
• 18:42
  Speaker 11: to shoot. But like I said, ever since then, it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 11: been good activity.
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: Almost all day long.
• 18:50
  Speaker 11: I'm hunting the ridgetops mostly so I can have good wind,
• 18:54
  Speaker 11: and they seem to be more active, more action up
• 18:57
  Speaker 11: there in the mornings. My evening's up there tend to
• 19:00
  Speaker 11: be a little bit slower, and so I've been the
• 19:04
  Speaker 11: last few days. Aside from looking for that buck, I've
• 19:08
  Speaker 11: been moving off the ridgetops and trying to hunt down
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: closer towards the ag and the valley bottoms.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: In the evenings.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: You've mentioned the wind a couple of times, Johnas, what
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: can you kind of explain the dynamic you have going
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: on there? What hypothesis you have as to why the
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: evenings are slower than the mornings or vice versa, or
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: what all's going on there? Exactly?
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: Well, I wish I knew Yler. Maybe it's very hilly country.
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: We've got about two hundred to two hundred and fifty
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: feet of elevation relief between the valley bottoms and the
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: ag and these ridge tops, and some of these draws
• 19:49
  Speaker 11: and valleys aren't more than, you know, a couple hundred
• 19:52
  Speaker 11: three hundred yards apart. And so when you get these
• 19:55
  Speaker 11: anything that picks up over ten miles an hour, really
• 19:58
  Speaker 11: when it comes across those rich and then it drops
• 20:01
  Speaker 11: into these bowls, who knows what it's doing. I'm still
• 20:03
  Speaker 11: trying to figure all that out.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So this is country that you grew up hunting, rot
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: This is kind of like your childhood deer camp. And
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I know just from talks with you you kind of
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: came into archery hunting as an adult a little bit
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: more so, how's your approach changed in that type of
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: country as you kind of have to change or do
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: change your tactics.
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: You know, it's it's big woods country.
• 20:27
  Speaker 11: We don't there's no besides the little bit of ag
• 20:30
  Speaker 11: that's at the at the foot of the hills. Otherwise
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: everything all that land, you know, the four or five
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: hundred acres I have access to is basically just.
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: All big mature oak forest.
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: There's been some clear cutting done in there and some
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: selective cutting, but for the most part you're hunting woods,
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: and so finding the edge habitat, finding the funnels is tricky.
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: It's it's not easy to do.
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: So a lot of times the easiest thing to do
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: is just fine where three or four riches come together
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: and set up set up on the down wind side
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: of that. But I'd say the biggest thing that's just
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: changed from being just a kid coming up here rifle
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: haunting to you know, now being a bull hunter is
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: just having to you know, take that, take what you
• 21:14
  Speaker 11: think about the deer movement in this country and just
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: pinpoint it down to a place where you're gonna have
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: a twenty yard shot.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Are there any acrons falling?
• 21:26
  Speaker 11: You know, it's funny because they're actually not because they
• 21:30
  Speaker 11: have all fallen, But there are places where you will
• 21:33
  Speaker 11: literally roll down the.
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: Hill after ball bearings. We had.
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: We had such a good acorn crop this year, a
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: lot of them, actually, some of the like one of
• 21:43
  Speaker 11: my spots I love to haunt.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: I call it the Oak Flat.
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: It's just it's just kind of one of those ridge tops,
• 21:48
  Speaker 11: but it opens up and it's eighty yards across and
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: I walk that thing and it's pretty.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: It's just been picked clean.
• 21:57
  Speaker 11: So the bears and the deer and the turkey ball
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: been in there, are just hammering those acorns. So there's
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: a few places where you can find a bunch of them,
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: but the critters have been on them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Well, we have another cold front that's supposed to kind
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: of move through the country over the next week, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I know that you're fixing to wrap up your hunt here.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: But as any good hunter, I'm sure you're sitting there
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: thinking about just what might happen in the woods going forward.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: What do you expect the deer to be doing here
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: in the next week.
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: Well, it seems like with that cold front that the
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: pressure is also gonna come up. And it sure seemed
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: like over the last week when that pressure was high,
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: there was a little bit more movement than when it
• 22:35
  Speaker 11: dropped off, which you know, I think everybody knows that
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: they tend to move more when the pressures up. So
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: that's coming with this cold front. So that's gonna be good.
• 22:44
  Speaker 11: But I'd say in general, it's just gonna keep getting.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Better and better and better.
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: And I still think from today, which is the seventh, right, guys,
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: this six or six or seven, it's been a long
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: stretch for me. I feel like there's still gonna be
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: two or three good days of just that, like good
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: kind of seeking cruising activity until you start getting some
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: bucks that are gonna be more into, you know, finding
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: their dough and getting locked down, and then you're gonna
• 23:18
  Speaker 11: get into that part where you're like, oh man, nothing's
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: going on, But it's just because you're not in that
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: spot wherever everything's going on.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: You know. So with all this in mind, if you
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: had to put a number on it from on a
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: scale of one to ten, what would you what would
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you like guess that the buck movement is gonna be
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: like in the next week.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: Nine, the third game.
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: I'm an eternal optimist and I've I've been hunting like
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: a i'd say, like a six or a seven, and
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: I just feel like it's just ramp It's gonna ramp
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: up again with like you guys said this next cold
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: front and so yeah, man, it's gonna be good.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: I wish I had more days.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate the optimism, dude. And the comulatve score
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: this week is like really high we're.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Looking at it's.
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: Like thirty eight.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's officially wattail Hop week, and we
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: appreciate you being on to share the hop you honest,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: thanks man.
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you, guys.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Jake Koper is on the way to Iowa, but he's
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: been in Illinois hunting big bucks in a state that
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: has a lot of them sometimes, at least in the past,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: it has, Jake, Jake, you killed one recently, right.
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah, man, I was fortunate enough to notch my Illinois
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: tag on November third in the.
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: Evening about five thirty.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Golly, this is one last big one in Illinois.
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: Now, for sure, one last, but there's still a few
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: running around.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's kind of early in the in the
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: rut for the scheme of things. And I know you
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: pretty well, and I feel like you usually you're kind
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: of playing it safe and being conservative and slipping in
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: on one a little later in the year usually. So
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I was just surprised that you went ahead and killed
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: this early. Was there something that you really picked out
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: on this deer that was like the tactic to go to?
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: I wish I could sound really smart and tell you
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: all these different things I had figured out.
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: But I was in Iowa, Honting.
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: I hunted in Iowa for eight days, and I was
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: in the stand Friday morning. I was like, man, I
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: really feel like I can go back and kill a
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: salader in Illinois over the weekend before things really frank
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: off in Iowa. And so I packed up a ten
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: o'clock drove straight to the farm. And November three has
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: always been one of my favorite days. I feel that
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: there's a lot of solid year covering some distance, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: I did some work on this farm and ironically drove straight.
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: To the farm.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: This is the first time I ever set up in
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: this new mouse trap, and I worked perfectly.
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: It was a deer.
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: Governing some distance, not a deer that I had around
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: very often. I had some velvet pictures of them, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: it was just a classic He was looking for a dough,
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: I think, and there was some other good deer that
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: started to show up on that farm. And I think
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: one of the biggest challenges this year is being there
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: before it happens. And there was just the inkling of
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: information that things were.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: Starting to get really good there.
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: So I drove straight there and read the script twenty
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: yards and had an Illinois buck down after like three
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: out person in the blind there. So it was one
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: of those weird things that doesn't work out often, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: holy cow, what it does?
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: You feel kind of smart?
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: M hey, can you explain what the mousetrap is?
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: Absolutely so the mouse trap. So I got this farm,
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: there was a blind on it, and it was a
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: situation where you'd have to be access to the line
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: wasn't ideal.
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: You'd have to.
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: Walk where the deer where they're vetted or probably gonna
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: see you walk in. You have to walk straight through
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: the food plot and lay down a lot of grounds.
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: And so what I did this year is I moved
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: that blind and actually dozed into new access road just
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: straight down this hill and I can slip right in,
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: not even step foot into the food plot. And how
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: the architecture of the plot, there's a really good pinch
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: where your SHOT's gonna be fifteen to twenty yards and
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: you're gonna see him coming. And that's exactly what happened.
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, it worked exactly.
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: How I imagine when I did it, and that's really
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: rewarding just just see some of that work.
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: Actually pay off and everything come together. It just fixed
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: up for all the times where it doesn't work out
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: yet you plan.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Was that was? So was the deer eating in the
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: food plot or was he cruising?
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: He was cruising, Yeah, so he was cruising.
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: I seen him.
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: And when I saw him, I was like, man, this
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: year is a big frame. And I was like, you
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: kind of go through that archive in your brain as
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: fast as possible as.
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: You see him coming.
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: And I was like, man, he's got a big frame.
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: I think he's got a sticker on us too, I said.
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: In the back of my mind, I was like, I'm
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: pretty sure I had one in the summer that was
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: like that, and it was. It was definitely in that
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: deer and it was kind of funny I grunted at him.
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: He was twenty yards.
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: I probably shouldn't have run at him. I know there's
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: a debate that you stop the deer or do you not.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: And I tried stopping him. I was already at full draw,
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: and he whipped and looked square at me. And so
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: he's looking square.
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: At me, I'm not taking that shot. And then he
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: started to quarter away.
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: But it was still a hard quartering qu shot and
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: I put it right right in his armpit.
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: And you know, I didn't see him go down.
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: And this is probably something this is probably timely information
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: for everyone.
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: I did not see him down go down.
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: I got my arrow, and I felt it was a
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: good shot, but I was a little concerned with how
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: hard he was quartering too. If my shot was this
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: two inches further back, he was probably gonna be a
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: straight stomach shot. But it ended up being a heart,
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: lung and stomach shot, and there was not a lot
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: of lung blood or anything on the arrow.
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: It was mainly stomach. So I backed out.
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: Overnight, and then we got a dog, and then we
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: found the deer. You know, really only hundred and twenty
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: yards before I shot them, So we played it safe
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: and it worked out for nice.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that that went good for you. So,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you know, going forward, that was like the first week
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: in November. Right now we're kind of looking at somewhat
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the second week in November.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Do you still feel like those deer.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Are going to be on that seeking type of activity
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: or would you think that guys might move in from
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the field edge and go kind of more to the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: thick stuff.
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: I think now.
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: It's probably the time where you want to start going
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: to that big stuff. And a lot of the cameras
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: I have on food sources right now, there's still some
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: does in there, and there's some food sources that are
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: quite a bit, you know, a lot less activity than
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: maybe a week or so ago. And I have to
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: imagine that now is the time to get in the
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: classic down window vetting or really good.
• 29:43
  Speaker 10: Pinch and log hours.
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: And I think that's probably a really good tactic for
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: right now to hopefully get an opportunity at a buck.
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: You've been run it around season.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet man, I'm excited to tell you the truth
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: after talking to you about this stuff. If you had
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: to give the next week a ranking from a scale
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of one in on buck movement, what would you give it?
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: Man?
• 30:03
  Speaker 10: So I would say historically, Ich.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: So November third, November tenth to my favorite days. Obviously
• 30:09
  Speaker 9: November tenth is this week. So whether it's slightly biased
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: from past experience, I mean, I'm gonna get this thing
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: at nine out of ten. I think it's gonna be
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: really good week.
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: We have.
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: We have this front rolling in and I think those
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: really big deer are gonna start running around.
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: I know it's dependent on the country, but in.
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: Illinois, if you're listening, I would I would get a
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: little aggressive, and I would go log some hours at eight, nine, ten,
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: eleven and really enjoy it because it'll only be those
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: days once this year, believe it or not.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Mmm.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Man, I love it, dude, Thanks for the report, Thanks
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: for the hot Let's go Jake, kill a big one
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in an hour.
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: All right, fingers cross, good catching.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Up on the phone.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I have got Louisiana's own lay McNasty. You might have
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: seen him in some videos like how third grade Girls
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Fight and other things, but the dude is also a
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: big buck killer.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Man. What's going on down there in Louisiana?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, nothing much, just trying to wait on the big
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: ones down here. I just got back from Missouri. Now
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I got to see if I can get it done
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: in Louisiana.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: A hot dog.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Louisiana is one of those places that has like quite
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a variety of rut dates.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, So how.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Do you time that kind of stuff out?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: You can you travel, like, you know, forty miles this
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: way and hunt a rut in early November, and travel
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: forty miles that way and hunt in late December and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: have a rut?
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I actually believe you can.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: I haven't personally done it, not that I wouldn't, but
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I want to say I don't want to butcher it
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: or be wrong about it, but I think up in
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: northern Louisiana the rut might start a little bit earlier
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: where I'm from. It normally we can kind of rely
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: on the rut to happen around Thanksgiving, you know, like
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I can't count the times I've seen a good buck
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: movement on Thanksgiving Day, and I actually killed one on
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Thanksgiving last year. And I want to say, in December
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: that might be when bucks are running around down in
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: southern Louisiana.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: And they all swamp bucks down there. That's cool.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, so you've been out a little bit this week.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: What tactics are you kind of hitting trying to catch
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: that pre red action?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Right now, I've been currently just wanting to see what
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: the deer moved are doing right now. Most of it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: just hunting creek bottoms where we know we've we've.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: Got good pictures of deer traveling through.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: But you know, right now, it's just been a lot
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: of dough still with their funds, you know, and younger
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: bucks cruising around eating. But we haven't I personally haven't
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: seen much of even the early.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Signs of the rut.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: But that's always the case around this time in my experience.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Are you hunting food plots or acre trees or you know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: oak trees or whatever? You know how you will? Yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: what are you focused on? Well?
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: On our lease that we have, we actually have a
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: lot of success with I don't know if you've heard
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: of them brand bags.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: We use a lot of rice bread, yeah, because.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Man, that that we've we've been using this per Simon
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: rice brand and it almost seems like that's just candy
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: to the deer there. Strangely enough, I've got another spot
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: I hunt to where brand doesn't work as well. So
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know these theer just seems so accustomed to
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: it here.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: So you have to keep that stuff up off the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: ground to where it then like it went or how
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: does that work?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: We don't.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, we've never had a problem with that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: If we do, where it does rain, like when you
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: go to your stand, we'll just walk out and kind
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: of kick out all the kind of solidified brand just
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: to kind of let the fresh brand fall.
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: But it's almost like.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: A gravity bag that to where it kind of keeps refreshing.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Is Do you guys have percime trees in your area?
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: I think we do, but not.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I think I think I've kind of misheard what you
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: were saying. I thought you were talking about just in Louisiana.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know if we have persimmon around where I'm hunting.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: We might, but I don't think i've ever seen one.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Gotcha. Yeah, that was interesting because we did a test
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: on that with flavored corn a while back, and persimmon
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: did pretty well if I remember correctly in that video. Yeah, yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: we have persimmons around though, So I just wondered if
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: there was some sort of correlation between that, right. But anyway,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: so you said the movement hasn't been You haven't seen
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: hardly any rut movement. Have you seen decent just bed
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: to feed, you know, normal daylight activity or is it
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: mostly at night?
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: We've got two I call them our shooter bucks. They're
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: two good deer ones, like a real tall browtie nine
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: point and a good looking ten. But most of theirs
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: has been night, but they have kind of come out
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and started feeding.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: I realized one of them came out at like.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: This was before the umb change the other day, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: came out around like seven am to where if somebody
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: was in the stand they could have got them before
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: right after hunting shooting hours.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: But right now, I don't know that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: It seems like we're in that stage right now to
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: where now the bucks are kind of the big mature
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: deer are kind of disappearing now because it always seems
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: like right before the rut, your buck want to kind
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: of disappear and stop coming to your food sources that
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: we put out. So I mean, right now it's just
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: been I think the last buck I saw when I
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: went hunting, like I think two days ago, was like
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: a good young eight. He was a big body deer,
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: but I'm still not even seeing you know, deer open
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: up scrapes around, But in my opinion, I think it's
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: a matter of time, maybe within this week, before you
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: start seeing all those signs like that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what I kind of want to ask
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you about next is as this next week progresses, if
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you start seeing scrapes pop up and stuff, is that
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: going to be something that you focus on?
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah? I think so.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: During that time, I feel like it's very common to
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: kind of start seeing those cruiser bucks coming around and
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: just kind of wait on them to check on stuff
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: and you know all that stuff.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So looking forward then, I know you mentioned like Thanksgiving
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: type rut, so we're still very much pre rut, but
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that's ramping up every day. If you had to give
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: it a on a scale of one to ten, how
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: do you feel like buck movement will be back or
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: will be like over the next week.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: In my opinion, I would probably give it like a seven.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Other people might disagree or agree, but I mean, I
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: would think it would be kind of like that week
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: to where you can really expect to see some different movement.
• 36:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Good time to catch a deer on his feet slipping for.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: The first time.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: Huh yeah, absolutely, yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Cool man. Well, hey, I really appreciate the report.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: It's cool to get to talk to somebody from Louisiana
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and keep it up day.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: To look forward to some big buck pictures.
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: Awesome. I appreciate y'all getting in touch with me.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: As we said before, the hype is real. It is
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the second week in November. There is nowhere else you
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: should be except maybe your own wedding or the birth
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: of your child. Get in the woods right now because
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the deer are going crazy all across the country. Tyler Jones,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: my associate right here, my friend, my hunting partner, my buddy,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: has definitely got his tab on the white tail end.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I do believe that Tyler Jones' feet. You're in an
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: article this past week North American wat Tail potentially.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, try to pick a copy of that up.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: We'll put a link to that in the description.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's an online article or might
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: be a hard copy.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I think you're like center your buck is centerfold in
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that thing. Yeah, speaking of spotlight and things.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sorry man, good, No, that's yeah, it was
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I was pretty surprised to find that out actually, but
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: that that's pretty cool, man. I think I think that's
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: pretty cool, you know. I mean, I'm gonna go get
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: me a hard copy because I think that the picture
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I saw on social was a hard copy, but that
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: would be sick. Yeah, it's pretty cool, you know. Speaking
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: of articles, though they're on the Wired to Hunt feed
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it on the website,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: is a three day rut hunt plan from Dealing Tramp.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It's an article. You know, three days is what a
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: lot of guys get. Man take off on a Friday,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: hunt through Sunday, or take off on you know, Thursday evening,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: hunt Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That's what you got. So there's
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: three day rut hunt plan article there. It might help
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: you out, give you some thoughts, some creative juices, get
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: them flowing. And then also, we released a video on
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: the Mediator channel just now. If you're listening to this,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: it's probably a day old or so, you should go
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: watch the video. Case C is featured in this video
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: as a guy smoking a big, old, just heavy toad
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: of an eight million point animal out in Nebraska. It's
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: an awesome video, little drama involved doing some new tactics
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: that you've never never encountered.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: What you call it.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Uncomfortable, but it's just you know, people talk all the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: time about getting out of your comfort zone, and it's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: good for sure, But sometimes I don't realize what my
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: comfort zone is. I always think that like, oh, that
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: just means like doing something harder. Sometimes it just means
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: doing something a lot different than what you're used to.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And I definitely did that on this hunt and had
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to kind of, you don't want to say, fly by
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the seat of your pants, but definitely make adjustments to
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: what I was used to and.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I can't toss.
• 39:05
  Speaker 12: It was difficult for me too. I mean, shooting out
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: of them things was wild. Haybail blinds. If you never
• 39:12
  Speaker 12: hunted out of one, it's cool, but it's also it's
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: also very particular the way things work out of this.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with some guy running a big shiny lens
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: behind you. There's not a lot of room and a
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: lot of hot air in there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Breaths lots of breath anyway, man, thank you guys for listening.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back next week
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: with more ret fresh radio reports from all across the country. Casey,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: let's go kill some big old bucks. Let's do it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: This has been ret fresh, Keep it fresh.