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Battle Axes A Hard Rockin History Of Pointy Guitars From Sean Kelly · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: doing fantastic. And it's like I've waited all these years
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  Speaker 1: for a book like this because I always thought I
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  Speaker 1: was the weird guy in the band. And I swear
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  Speaker 1: to god they wanted me out of there because I
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  Speaker 1: had an Ibanez Flying V. They didn't like it. I did.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to fight for it at oh Man.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I love this. I love this. I'm with you, brother.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still fighting artists to play my pointy guitars on stage.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so strange, you know. We always talk
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  Speaker 1: about how fast life goes by. My my Flying V
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  Speaker 1: is going to be fifty years old next year, and
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  Speaker 1: I still have it from my teenage years. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to say he's still hanging on
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  Speaker 1: to his past. No, it's up pointy guitar. You don't
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  Speaker 1: throw away pointy guitars.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man. They become a party and they become part
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  Speaker 2: of the physiology.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I can't imagine how many stories that you
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  Speaker 1: have heard from all of these artists that you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't take a pointy guitar and sit down with
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  Speaker 1: a group of people at a kumbayaf festival and sit
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  Speaker 1: there and play it like an acoustic no man.
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  Speaker 2: And you know it takes a discipline to learn how
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  Speaker 2: to sit.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone who sat with a flying V when you can't
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  Speaker 3: find your guitar strap and knows that the pain is real.
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  Speaker 1: So now, was the popularity of the of the pointy
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  Speaker 1: guitar as we're calling it? Was it because of Gene
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  Speaker 1: Simmons and everybody in Kiss were starting to demonstrate some
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  Speaker 1: things back in the mid seventies, or does it go
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  Speaker 1: before that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, you know these guitars when Gibson came
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  Speaker 3: out with the Modernistic series, they were flops. It was
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  Speaker 3: you know, it was the dawn of the space age, right,
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  Speaker 3: the space race between Russia and America and gives someone
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  Speaker 3: to come up with these crazy designs that would compete
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  Speaker 3: with the stratocaster, because at that point, Ratocaster was.
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  Speaker 2: A fairly adventurous shape. But it took off.
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  Speaker 3: It was erganomic. It felt great and looked enough, kind
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  Speaker 3: of like a guitar that people were used to. But
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  Speaker 3: when Gibson came out with the V and the Explorer
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  Speaker 3: and Maderren, it was a little too much for the
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  Speaker 3: market at the time, and it took the adopting of
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  Speaker 3: these guitars by blues men like Albert King, by guys
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  Speaker 3: like Ronnie Mack who wanted Billy Gibbons, who wanted that
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  Speaker 3: sound like doesn't sound but couldn't afford to less Paul right,
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  Speaker 3: So it took. It was a slow progression through the sixties,
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  Speaker 3: Dave Davies, Eric Clapton. Then in the seventies it's funny
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  Speaker 3: guys like Dean z Lynsky, Paul Hamer, Joel Dancing. They
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  Speaker 3: start to see, hey, there's this new arena rocks sound happening,
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  Speaker 3: but we are still playing guitars from the fifties. Kiss
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  Speaker 3: were a part of that, you know, with Paul with
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  Speaker 3: his flying v's and his Firebirds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean we have had Don Kirshner's rock concert.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have MTV. We sat there, we watched the
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  Speaker 1: midnight special. We saw these live performances and they were
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  Speaker 1: up there making these guitars look like that they were
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  Speaker 1: like the thing to have. And it's like we were
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  Speaker 1: being teased by these weekly shows and not something that
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  Speaker 1: we got every everyone fifteen twenty minutes on MTV.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, JJ French talks about in the book going
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  Speaker 3: to the film more and kind of getting hipped to the.
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  Speaker 2: Firebird and things like that, Guys like Johnny Winner.
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  Speaker 3: Coming through and you're right, like, you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: far far and few between in the seventies to be
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  Speaker 3: able to actually see stuff like this. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: was a little bit after the Don Kirshner rock concert thing.
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  Speaker 2: But going back and watching that footage, it must have
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  Speaker 2: been very impacting. It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was because you basically were waiting very impatiently for
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  Speaker 1: that midnight hour to happen, because that I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna happen, but your parents were going go to bed,
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  Speaker 1: and you're going, I got to see the guitars. Don't
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  Speaker 1: send me to bed. Yet let me see who's playing.
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  Speaker 1: And that, to me was the essence of what that
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  Speaker 1: period was all about. It was the patience waiting for
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  Speaker 1: everything to take place.
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  Speaker 3: I love that, and I can relate to a degree
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  Speaker 3: because in Canada here we didn't have MTV.
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  Speaker 2: We had much music, and it didn't come till a
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  Speaker 2: little later.
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  Speaker 3: And also it was a paid service and not something
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  Speaker 3: my parents were willing to pay for.
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  Speaker 2: So I remember waiting for shows.
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  Speaker 3: Like Friday Night Videos and just hoping that quiet cry
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  Speaker 3: it might be on, hoping there might be a deaf
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  Speaker 3: Lapper video to see what they even looked like. You know,
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  Speaker 3: there was still the enigma, the veil of mystery, or
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  Speaker 3: waiting for that monthly guitar magazine to show up at
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  Speaker 3: the drug store.
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  Speaker 4: My god, instantly, you just sat me back because I'd
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  Speaker 4: walk into those damn and I didn't even walk into
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  Speaker 4: a JC panny and they would have those magazines up there,
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  Speaker 4: and you, you just instantly became that two year old.
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  Speaker 1: Child, mom, Why why my mom?
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  Speaker 2: Mom? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Why why can't I have it? Why can't I have it?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely man? And thinking about it. You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I'm working on a solo record guitar record to go
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  Speaker 3: along with the book, and the artwork we're designing is
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  Speaker 3: designed to try and take you back to that feeling
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  Speaker 3: of opening up a guitar magazining seeing an ad and
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  Speaker 3: right down to the fonts. I even ripped off a
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  Speaker 3: Vinnie Moore album for the font Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: You know the thing about it is is I know
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  Speaker 1: you just mentioned that you're from Canada, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: hear the word Triumph come out of you. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: wait a second here, I mean, I'm American in Triumph?
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  Speaker 1: What played such a major role in my passage through time?
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  Speaker 3: Well, dude, I will tell you I am blessed to
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  Speaker 3: share a friendship with Rick Emmett and I've actually had
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  Speaker 3: a chance to play with him a few times, and
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  Speaker 3: he was gracious enough to give me a blurb for
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  Speaker 3: the back of my book, and he's interviewed in this book,
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  Speaker 3: and he plays a huge part in my pointing guitar story.
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  Speaker 3: Triumph for very important to US Canadian rockers, and it's
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  Speaker 3: so wonderful to see them back out on the road
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  Speaker 3: and Rick back out there and bringing the show to
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  Speaker 3: the States and seeing the impact. They were wonderful ambassadors
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  Speaker 3: for Canada.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to Barnes and Noble. I realized
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  Speaker 1: we can get it on Amazon, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: go see physical real people pick up this book and
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  Speaker 1: watch their eyes light up. Because every guy, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, every girl gets this as well.
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  Speaker 1: Because Abby Ka out there in Nashville right now is
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  Speaker 1: really bringing the pointy guitar back. But she's doing it
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  Speaker 1: with a bass guitar.
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  Speaker 2: That's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, you're absolutely right think about players
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  Speaker 3: like lead A four. Yeah, you know who is out there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, rocking like you know, a Hamer.
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  Speaker 2: Destroyer and.
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  Speaker 3: Hamer Explorer and people like you know, there's a whole
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  Speaker 3: new wave of players like Alice Cooper, Nina Strauss.
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  Speaker 2: Alice just has.
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  Speaker 3: Another amazing new female guitar player who's I can't believe
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  Speaker 3: that a twenty two year old guitar player can have
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  Speaker 3: that kind of touch, feel and tone. So it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: You know, these guitars are for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in Billings, Montana, so we didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a sam Ash. We may have had some like reliable
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  Speaker 1: music or something like that, but I'll tell you where
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  Speaker 1: I wanted my guitars was from the pawn shop because
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  Speaker 1: I knew that's where attitude was and everybody was dumping
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  Speaker 1: their copycat Plenty guitars. But it didn't matter. I had
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  Speaker 1: to have them, all of them.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, I gotta tell you. I've played Buildings, Montana. My
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  Speaker 3: band was We played the Shrine Auditorium.
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  Speaker 2: Well Cooper and my band.
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  Speaker 3: Crash Kelly did a US tour, a leg of an
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  Speaker 3: Alice Cooper tour, and it is still one of the
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  Speaker 3: greatest rock and roll experience. I felt like I was
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  Speaker 3: in a nineteen seventy six movie or something that was.
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  Speaker 2: Ready to rock.
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  Speaker 3: So Billings, Montana has a very special place in my heart,
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  Speaker 3: and I wish I could have visited some of those
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  Speaker 3: pawn shops.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a full circle moment for you. My book called
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  Speaker 1: Halloween seventy eight takes place. It's a teenage rock band
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  Speaker 1: that plays at the Shrine Auditorium in Billings, Montana, and
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  Speaker 1: they create a fake death because they wanted the headlines
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  Speaker 1: to be famous. That's what Plenty Guitars do. You want
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  Speaker 1: to be seen, You're gonna do stupid things to be
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  Speaker 1: seen and people are gonna remember you. But that's what
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  Speaker 1: that book is about. From the Shrine auditorium where you played.
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  Speaker 3: Well brother, it guess where I'm gonna be going. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna be going online and looking for a copy of
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  Speaker 3: that book.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know. And the thing about it
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  Speaker 1: is it's one of those and you being an author
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  Speaker 1: and somebody you know a journalist as well, in a historians,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those. It took thirty two years to
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  Speaker 1: finally get published because I couldn't release it. It was it
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  Speaker 1: was an eleventh grade student that wrote that me and
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  Speaker 1: because I just wanted to rock, That's all I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do, and I thought I'm gonna write books, then
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  Speaker 1: that's how I'm gonna write.
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  Speaker 2: But doesn't that encapsulate the human spirit? Right?
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  Speaker 3: We get inspired by these things, these periodicals, magazines, music radio,
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  Speaker 3: all in the context of the culture in which we're
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  Speaker 3: growing up.
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  Speaker 2: And I love that man, and it inspires new art,
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  Speaker 2: new things.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Battle acts Is Is really is as
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  Speaker 3: much about the spirit of innovation and entrepreneurship and friendship
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  Speaker 3: as it is about the physical guitar.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Sean
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  Speaker 1: Kelly coming up next. The name of the book Battle Axis,
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  Speaker 1: It's going to create a lot of conversation. We are
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  Speaker 1: back with a man who has lived it, Sean Kelly.
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  Speaker 1: You can be any age, a young little teenager talking
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  Speaker 1: with a ninety year old man, and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: make a connection. And this book is going to be
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  Speaker 1: that super glue.
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  Speaker 2: Oh thanks, man. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean because at one point in time, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you grew up in that age where where people didn't
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  Speaker 1: put their guitars away inside their cases. They hung them
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  Speaker 1: on the frickin' wall, which really used to drive me
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  Speaker 1: crazy because I was worried about the neck.
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  Speaker 3: I know, man, And when I think about it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I was a good and I've had I have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of guitars. I've had some some sillynesssaps over
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  Speaker 3: the years.
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  Speaker 2: More than a few headstocks have met their maker. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, you put those things back on, they keep
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  Speaker 2: coming back to life. Man. It's like Frankenstein's Monster.
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  Speaker 1: So now, what kind of stories did you get out
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  Speaker 1: of the guitar case, because that's that's part of the
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  Speaker 1: personality as well. And when when I would walk in
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  Speaker 1: there with that, I've been as flying v case. It
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  Speaker 1: was like people would look at me, going, that's not normal.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell was he carrying with him?
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting?
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  Speaker 3: You know, as much as we dove into things, the
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  Speaker 3: case itself really was revelatory, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 2: That could be in and of itself. But yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you.
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  Speaker 3: I love those chainsaw guitar cases like that was to
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  Speaker 3: me when a guy had to. I remember there was
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  Speaker 3: a kid that went to high school with Pete command
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  Speaker 3: I still remember his name, and he could play the
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  Speaker 3: solo to talk dirty to me when I was in
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  Speaker 3: grade nine.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't, but he had.
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  Speaker 3: He had a Gibson SG but it was one of
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  Speaker 3: those bright Ferrari red ones, like an eighty six in
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  Speaker 3: the chainsaw case. And I remember that case was not
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  Speaker 3: my case, you know, I wanted his case.
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  Speaker 1: Well, don't you think that because it books like yours,
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  Speaker 1: that there's there's a sharp increase in sales right now
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  Speaker 1: with pointy guitars, because you do go walking into stores
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  Speaker 1: right now and you're going, oh my god, they still
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  Speaker 1: do this. But the thing about it is, though, is,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know how you feel about this, it's
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  Speaker 1: more of a real electric guitar that's you can make
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  Speaker 1: it sound like a piano. You can make it sound
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  Speaker 1: like this. You can make and I'm thinking it's not
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  Speaker 1: what we had, but I'm not gonna judge it. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: the imagination is today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I do clinics for Chardel Jackson guitars, and when I
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  Speaker 3: walked into it, so I can't believe the young people
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  Speaker 3: who have But they also have access to all the
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  Speaker 3: digital modeling technology. So man, I used to have to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, work at the local grocery store, cut grass
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  Speaker 3: at the local cemetery for a long time to be
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  Speaker 3: able to afford a new pedal. But right now you
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  Speaker 3: can have a world of amplifiers at your hands.
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  Speaker 2: So they have all these creative tools. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a wonderful thing.
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  Speaker 1: How many stories have you bumped into where we had
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  Speaker 1: to sell our pointy grew I sell it, pawn it
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  Speaker 1: off because the transmission had to be fixed in the car,
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  Speaker 1: or we had to fix something in the house, and
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  Speaker 1: the only thing of value that we had was that
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  Speaker 1: damn pointy guitar. And it bought you some peace of
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  Speaker 1: mind until you could go back and get it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh dude, I've I've lost a lot of beautiful instruments
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  Speaker 3: over the years, but I lost them. It was always
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  Speaker 3: in the service of Like I remember when my band crash, Kelly,
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  Speaker 3: we had a chance to tour England with the London
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  Speaker 3: Choir Boys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that band.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but I had a chance to tour England and
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  Speaker 3: I you know, there was an agent over there, but
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  Speaker 3: I had to get us over well. I lost a
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  Speaker 3: lot of nice guitars getting us over there, but you
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  Speaker 3: know what that was in the name of rock and roll,
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  Speaker 3: and other guitars came in their stead. Still it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to like, go over seventy eight less paullut a seventy
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  Speaker 3: two creek.
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  Speaker 1: See, and we become instant kids, don't we. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you could walk into I mean you could be in
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  Speaker 1: the worst mood of your life, a grumpy old man
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  Speaker 1: syndrome kind of a mood. You walk in there, see
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  Speaker 1: a pointy guitar, and all of a sudden you're gone, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: now things are going right again.
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  Speaker 3: They're instant energizers and by I interviewed for the book
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Mancuda. He's actually an actor on the show Lost.
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  Speaker 3: He said, at best, he goes man. It's like Christmas
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  Speaker 3: every day when you put in in order for a
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  Speaker 3: new and you're just rubbing your hands together waiting to
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  Speaker 3: see what sand is gonna bring from the ups truck.
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  Speaker 1: In battle axes? Do you go into the storylines of
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, because these plenty of guitars do fall
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  Speaker 1: off their straps, they do fall to the floor. Other
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  Speaker 1: people don't respect them like those who own them. I've
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  Speaker 1: got dance and dings in mind. But by god, that's
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  Speaker 1: just part of the rock and roll story to me.
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  Speaker 1: What about others?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Like you know, there's there's classic stories about
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  Speaker 3: Randy Rhodes bringing.
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  Speaker 2: His sand of all in because the deep dropped it
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  Speaker 2: and smashed it.
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  Speaker 3: But you know those things were built, built really well,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know a little bit of TLC can
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  Speaker 3: be brought back to life. And I just I'm right now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a phase of buying eighty sharvels from Japan.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 3: They're just in instruments, and you know what I look for.
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  Speaker 3: I don't look for mint. I like them played in.
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  Speaker 3: I like it when they're out of it because to me,
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  Speaker 3: there's a story behind that, whether it's a guy who
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  Speaker 3: took it on the road, and played the bars in
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  Speaker 3: Northern Ontario, Canada, or some kid who you know, was
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  Speaker 3: just learning a Queen's rey riff, got too excited, made
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  Speaker 3: a move and you know, hit the bedside lamp.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's a story behind every ding, and I like,
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine the story of music without Bootsy Collins
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  Speaker 1: if he didn't have his imagination locked in on those
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  Speaker 1: guitars that helped make his image just, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: such an investment. I mean, I can't imagine without those
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  Speaker 1: guitars what someone like Bootsy Collins would go through.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, man think about it? Funk Adelic.
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  Speaker 2: They were like the kiss and soul, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like like that that the mother ship lands and they
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  Speaker 3: are bringing the funk.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I really focused on the seventies and eighties hard rockers,
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  Speaker 3: but by far they were not the only people playing
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  Speaker 3: point of guitar.
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  Speaker 2: I look at prints in the Revolution, and you know
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: it's interesting. I ran out of his face. It's a
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: pretty thick book, but I ran out of face. Could
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: have gone on and on. Like Hondo guitars.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: There was a proliferation of Hondo guitars in the Minneapolis area.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: So all of a sudden, that guy's like Daz Dickerson,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: you know, playing playing Hondo Explorers and Prince videos.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Right, I was just gonna say, that's you know you.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: You bring it up Prince, and I'd have to say,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: that's exactly the reason why I think I glued myself
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to MTV. Sure, Motley Crue was hot, but I had
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: to see what Prince was playing. I had to watch
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: those damn fingers of his.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: You don't realize what an impact because he was such
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: an all around virtuo, so all around genius. It's easy
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: to gloss over the incredible guitar player he was and
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: how informed he was by Classic rock radio by Neil
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Sean from Journey by Lindsey buckingham He took all those
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: lessons but applied it to R and B, to FONK
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: to jazz like a NonStop musical genius.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: His output was it was incredible.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: See you bring up Lindsay bucking Hammond right away, I'm
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: going I would like to see him on a flying
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: V with the way that he can pluck those strings.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: And to me, as far as I'm concerned, he was
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: shredding before shredding became cool. He was doing stuff on
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that guitar that nobody had ever heard before. No wonder
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Mick Fleetwood fell in love with him instantly.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Oh no kidding, man, Like taking all those kind of
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Americana tropes, you know, the fingerpicking, the bandro will run
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: in his own way, but then also applying like the
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: kind of the sixties, the Peter Green Blues thing, right,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: applying all that And you're right, because a flying V,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a good flying V, has a very warm, special mid
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: range sound, and I really do that's actually a really
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: great observation. I associate that with Lindsey, that sound that
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: cuts through an FM radio, you know what I mean,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: It's just there.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: It has the nose, the warmth, but.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Cuts through the mix and just like Rehan it you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: it just hits you in the face.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could talk to you all freaking David.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: He's got me on a twenty minute schedule. This is
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: so unfair, man. We're talking pointy guitars here. Bill, Come on,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: so dude, you got to come back to this show
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: anytime in the future. You're on to I love the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: fact that you're going to be doing solo guitars. So
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: now you've really got my attention, because when you do that,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: that all of a sudden becomes even more personable, and that,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to me, is going to bring even more people into
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: your storyline.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I hope. So.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Man, the battle Axe album is going to come out
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: and follow twenty twenty six on Bulk Press.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: We're really excited about it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to share a copy with you, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to reading your book too.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Man, this is exciting.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Well remember it was done by in eleventh grader that
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: was really there at the Shrine auditorium, and I hope
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to God I paint a picture for you because when
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you're back there in that dressing room before hitting that stage,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I hope you relive your excitement about being there.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Ah Man, I'm excited to read it. Thank you for that.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? And thank you for this
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: this book because it is going to be a tool
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: for me to reach out with in the future because
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it's a conversation starter.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Aw Man, I'm excited to feel that way. Thank you.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Erro be brilliant today.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do man, I'll shine on you, shine on too.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: You