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- 0:04Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: What if YouTube could become the most consistent lead source for your business without eating up your week?
- 0:11Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: A lot of business owners assume YouTube means hours of filming, editing, and trying to go viral, but what if that's exactly why it's not working for you?
- 0:23Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: So this week on Profit with a Plan, we're talking about how business owners can use YouTube as a lead generation system, not just another content platform to keep the feed.
- 0:35Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: My guest, Jerry, shows exactly why most YouTube advice is built for creators and not entrepreneurs.
- 0:43Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: How to stop getting buried by the algorithm, and what it really takes to grow a channel that brings in leads in as little as 90 minutes.
- 0:52Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: If you have been looking for a smarter way to build visibility, authority, and a pipeline of qualified prospects, this conversation is one you don't want to miss.
- 1:05Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Hey entrepreneurs, are you working too hard for too little profit? Well, welcome to Profit with a Plan Podcast, where we help business owners grow smarter, increase in profitability, and build a business that's worth more, whether you keep it or sell it.
- 1:19Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: I'm Marcia Reiner, Business Growth Strategist and the Profit Booster behind Infinite Profit.
- 1:25Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Each week, I bring you practical strategies, expert insights, and real-world steps to help you grow revenue, improve margins, and build a stronger business.
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- 2:10Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: And by the way, there's no sales call required to get it.
- 2:13Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Now, let's get into today's conversation. My guest today is Jerry Potter, a YouTube lead generation strategist who helps online entrepreneurs to turn their expertise into steady streams of qualified leads without spending hours of creating content.
- 2:31Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: For years, people have been asking Jerry how he was able to get so much done in his business. And like many business owners, he thought it came down to better productivity and time management. But later, he discovered the real difference was leverage.
- 2:47Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Instead of chasing more tasks.
- 2:50Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: more posts or more complicated marketing systems, Jerry built a high-leverage asset that keeps working for him, starting with lead generation.
- 3:01Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Using YouTube channel. Now he teaches entrepreneurs how to grow a YouTube channel that actually brings in leads and opportunities in as little as 90 minutes a week.
- 3:11Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Jerry, welcome to Profit with a Plan podcast. I'm excited to have you on today.
- 3:16Jerry Potter: Thank you, I'm excited to talk about this. I think that there's a lot of bad advice out there about YouTube, especially for business owners, and it's why so many of them end up getting burnt out before they can actually cross into that
- 3:30Jerry Potter: wonderful land of lead generation, where it's like, okay, this is why I'm doing this now. So, I love diving into this.
- 3:37Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: You know, you hit it spot on. There is so much advice out there, and even more so is adding, and we're being bombarded by messages all the time that say, oh, this is the way to do it, this is the way to do it, but it's like…
- 3:51Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: gosh, even getting into chat lately, like, I'll ask it to give me a task, and it'll send me down a rabbit hole, and an hour or two later, I'm like, dude, that's not what I asked for! And so, having that…
- 4:04Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Expert that understands how to really make it work for you, instead of just adding more weight to you, is super exciting.
- 4:13Jerry Potter: Yeah, and YouTube is just an incredible opportunity now. I mean, we've seen some of these other platforms get eroded by AI, you know, blogging is obviously nothing like it was 3-4 years ago.
- 4:25Jerry Potter: But YouTube, you know, a few things are going on. First of all, YouTube is promoting smaller channels more than it ever has before. They're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart, but basically the AI algorithm now understands what a video is about and how good it is.
- 4:39Jerry Potter: So they're not paying attention as much to channel history, where it's like, well, we're not gonna show your videos to anybody until you've proven, you know, you're serious about this. That used to be the case. Right. People go to YouTube for answers they can't get from ChatGPT, plus AI tools are citing YouTube and sending people to YouTube, like, it's one of the top-cited websites for information, and so I'm getting thousands of views a month from ChatGPT.
- 5:03Jerry Potter: And this has always been true. YouTube is where people go to solve their problems, and so you get people that are bottom of funnel, that are closer to, you know, being ready to invest money in solving their problem.
- 5:14Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Exactly, because they're actually looking for a solution, and so YouTube comes up and says, oh, how to X, right? And if they're looking for that, like you said, they're it closer to making that decision, and therefore they're trying to narrow it down. And oftentimes, and I think we spoke about this just before going live.
- 5:36Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: they can see the exact start-to-finish step, and they still can't execute on it, so that they're going to be, oh man, I just… I feel like I'm missing something, what did I do? Maybe Jerry's the guy I need to talk to to get it done properly, right? And they're more apt to go… go pull the trigger and buy something.
- 5:54Jerry Potter: YouTube is incredible for building trust in that way, you know, especially if we compare it to video on some of the other platforms now, because, you know, you can put videos on LinkedIn, and TikTok, and Instagram, and Facebook, and you can reach new people. Like, that's one thing that's changed in the last 5 years, is these vertical short-form videos are designed to reach strangers.
- 6:13Jerry Potter: But the problem is, even if you're doing well on, let's say, Instagram.
- 6:17Jerry Potter: If you're putting up 15-second videos or 65-second videos.
- 6:22Jerry Potter: Think about how long it would take for someone to watch 30 of those, for example.
- 6:28Jerry Potter: It might take months and months, and by the time they saw the second one, they don't remember you from the first one anymore, right? Even if it was an hour later. But on YouTube, somebody can find you, maybe they watch 2, 3, 4 videos all at once, which is a very common YouTube pattern, and all of a sudden, they spent 30 minutes watching you the first day they found you.
- 6:47Jerry Potter: The know, like, and trust from that is like having a coffee meeting with somebody for 30 minutes, or them seeing you give your best presentation on stage.
- 6:56Jerry Potter: 30 minutes. And so, it's just one of those things now where, when people use YouTube for lead generation, they get on the sales call, it's more like, which plan should I pick, as opposed to convince me to hire you. And so, that is why, you know, for years now, I've been able to have somebody find me on YouTube.
- 7:12Jerry Potter: and start working with me, or buy a product that's, you know, $1,000 or more that same day. And it… when it first started happening, it blew my mind. It's like, you know, because we all ask, like, where did you hear about Jerry Potter?
- 7:24Jerry Potter: I was searching for such and such on YouTube earlier today, then I joined your email list, then I got this offer, and, you know, now here I am. And that is what's just…
- 7:34Jerry Potter: Makes it so much more powerful than almost anything out there.
- 7:38Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: And that's, I think, the magic you just gently slipped in, right? YouTube can be a funnel. YouTube can be a lead-generating system, not just video binging. And I think if we take it back one step from your previous comment.
- 7:54Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: If I'm on Instagram, and they're watching a couple of videos, or one video, my lead to, you know, my call to action would be, hey, go find more on YouTube.
- 8:07Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: And then I'm, like, directing it from there, taking them off platform, but directing them from there over to YouTube, where they can start to binge watch, and then get
- 8:16Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: signed up and whatever, right? So, it's a fantastic tool that can really, really leverage. So, I like that you dropped the little breadcrumb in there.
- 8:25Jerry Potter: Yeah, well, and if, you know, if you don't… friction is friction, right? For anyone we're trying to send anywhere. So, if you can get them on YouTube without having to send them there from Instagram, you know, even better.
- 8:36Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Yeah, of course, you know, shorter, shorter path is always good, but, but yeah. So, let's talk about this, then. So, your claim to fame is that you can, you know, get me onto YouTube without spending hours and hours and days and weeks and, like, oh, and…
- 8:53Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: There's gotta be a secret, because 90 minutes a week is very little amount of time to produce quality or a lot of videos that need to be on there. How do you do that?
- 9:04Jerry Potter: Please, bring the skepticism, because you should be skeptical of anyone who makes a claim like this. In fact, when I first hypothesized, could this be done in, you know, around 90 minutes a week, I was like.
- 9:14Jerry Potter: Let's see, but the truth is, I've been telling other entrepreneur friends, like, you gotta get on YouTube, and the answer I would constantly hear is, oh, I know, not yet, next year.
- 9:25Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: When I lose some weight.
- 9:28Jerry Potter: the following January, the January after that, and all of a sudden, five years are passed, and they're like, gosh, I wish I'd started on YouTube 5 years ago. And so I started asking them, what if you could do it in 4 hours a week? Oh, I don't know, 3 hours a week. And when I finally started saying 90 minutes, people leaned in, and they said, tell me more. And this is recent, right? Like, this is,
- 9:48Jerry Potter: this is… now, with our modern technology, makes editing easier, AI obviously can help, you know, all these different things. But the main key
- 9:56Jerry Potter: is to only focus on the YouTube tasks that have the highest ROE, or return on effort. So I talk a lot about return on effort, you know, it's… basically, that's the way I refer to leverage. You want to do things that are going to benefit you over and over again.
- 10:10Jerry Potter: like, that's leverage, that's return on effort. And so.
- 10:13Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: I love it.
- 10:13Jerry Potter: When it comes to YouTube, most of the YouTube advice out there is for influencers or creators, people that are trying to make money selling
- 10:23Jerry Potter: other people's stuff to their audience, right? I mean, the influencer industry is expected to surpass a billion dollars soon. It's insane. So, obviously, most of the content is geared toward them, but if you're trying to be an influencer or a creator, and then you make your money from people sponsoring your channel, or you promoting their products as an affiliate, or anything like that.
- 10:42Jerry Potter: you got more time. As business owners, we already have a job, right? We're already serving our clients, and so we can't do it that way. And so, when you follow that advice that promotes all of the best practices in the world, you end up burning out, because you're trying to do everything perfect.
- 11:00Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: So…
- 11:01Jerry Potter: the big shift is, okay, well, what if I only have a little bit of time? What would I do? And when I started my YouTube channel.
- 11:08Jerry Potter: I had a full-time job, I was a chief marketing officer and creative director at an agency. My wife worked evenings, and I had two kids under eight, and so, basically, I was single dad every night, so it was pick up the kids at two different schools, dinner, you know, prep, feed them, clean up, bath time, all of it. So, and I wasn't…
- 11:26Jerry Potter: you know, I wasn't so excited about YouTube at the time that I was like, I'm gonna spend all my weekends doing this, I'm gonna stay up all night, I'm not one of those 6-hour-a-night people, I gotta get my 8 hours. Yeah.
- 11:37Jerry Potter: So… so that wasn't an option, and I remember people bragging, like, oh, yeah, I spent at least 19 hours editing every single video, and I was like, cool, good for you, can't do that. So, from the beginning, it was like, what can I do? And so, when we think about return on effort, first of all.
- 11:52Jerry Potter: If you're limited on time.
- 11:54Jerry Potter: ignore everything on YouTube except for the traditional long-form video, and that's basically a widescreen video, like, that would be 3 minutes or longer. Shorts can be up to 3 minutes now. So, ignore livestreams, ignore shorts, ignore memberships, all these other things that YouTube gives us, because
- 12:12Jerry Potter: That's the content that introduces people to you, it gets people knowing, liking, and trusting you, like we talked about. They can spend 30 minutes with you the day they find you, and most importantly, that's the content that lives on for years and years and years.
- 12:27Jerry Potter: This is the part I didn't understand at the beginning, but I don't think enough people understand now, is when you publish a video on YouTube, you're gonna get some views from it, hopefully, and get some leads from it.
- 12:38Jerry Potter: And then the next week, you publish another video, but the previous one's gonna keep getting views and leads. And so it compounds on each other. And so, just to put this into context, the first year I was on YouTube, I started mid-August, so it was about four and a half months, and I got 1,150 views in that time.
- 12:53Jerry Potter: That's when people quit, right? They're like, oh, that's… that was a lot…
- 12:57Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: A lot of work.
- 12:58Jerry Potter: Yeah, for that many views. But then, the following year, I got 300,000 views. The year after that, 1.2 million, and the year after that, 2 million views. So it compounds like nothing else. And then, even to shrink that context, not to throw too many numbers out there, but my first 6 months, I got, as it started to grow, I got 4,000 views, a little better than the 1,000, but in my second 6 months, I got 86,000.
- 13:22Jerry Potter: 1,000 views.
- 13:24Jerry Potter: So…
- 13:25Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: So it starts to exponentially stack on itself, because you probably had, when you had your first 1,000 viewers, you probably only had a few videos, right? And then as you start to build that library, you get more people viewing, right?
- 13:39Jerry Potter: Exactly. Well, it wasn't a few videos, because it was four and a half months in, so publishing one long-form video a week, I mean, it was 20, you know, 20-ish videos at that point, but again, not worth it, in my mind, to, you know.
- 13:52Jerry Potter: keep going in that… in that manner. So… so that's something you gotta know up front, like, you… you gotta… like, I always tell people, if you're not willing to publish one video a week for at least 6 weeks, then don't start, because, you know, you're gonna get discouraged.
- 14:04Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: So the reality in this is it's not an overnight sensation. You're not going to be a Justin Bieber of your, of your, you know, of your industry and overnight and become a star. It's going to take some time and effort to be doing it, so, but in… for a long play.
- 14:23Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: It sounds really, really enticing.
- 14:26Jerry Potter: It's a lot like investing in your health. Like, so if you think about eating better or exercise, like, oh my gosh, ice cream is so much better today, no matter what's gonna happen down the line, right?
- 14:38Jerry Potter: And YouTube is the same way, and so I just like to prepare people so that they are ready for it, because the early day, I almost quit, and I was, you know, I was a stubborn entrepreneur, and I'm like, I'm gonna keep going. Like, I committed to a year, one video a week for a year, I can do that.
- 14:53Jerry Potter: And that is why it paid off.
- 14:56Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Wow, okay. So now,
- 14:59Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: The challenge that I see, right, is that, yes, I do my one video a week for a year, I commit to that, I'm all in there, I believe I'm delivering really good information on here, but in reality, just because you build it doesn't mean people are gonna come. No. So how do you get the people to come?
- 15:19Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Is it the content, or is it the algorithm game?
- 15:22Jerry Potter: It's… well, it's a little bit of both.
- 15:24Jerry Potter: So, I mentioned earlier how YouTube is now recommending smaller channels more than ever before. And then, in fact, I heard this from somebody at YouTube, and I was like, liar, and then I went and tested it.
- 15:37Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: The wire I'm gonna call you out?
- 15:39Jerry Potter: Seriously, if you go to YouTube's homepage at any given time, and you just scroll down, like, not in the very top, but if you scroll down a little bit, you are probably going to see a video from a small channel with very few views. And I've tested this dozens of times now, where it'll be a channel that, you know, a video was published 4 days ago, they have 12 subscribers, and it has 15 views.
- 16:00Jerry Potter: But somehow, YouTube thought I might like this video.
- 16:03Jerry Potter: And so, how do we get to be those videos? The biggest thing is you have to let YouTube understand what you're all about, and this is where we go wrong as entrepreneurs.
- 16:13Jerry Potter: We tend to have all of these ways that we love to help people. We have all of these talents, all of these things, and so we start making helpful videos. And it doesn't matter how good the quality of the video is.
- 16:29Jerry Potter: If YouTube cannot match you up with a viewer.
- 16:33Jerry Potter: So, let's say that you are making videos helping people with their finances, and so you make a video about, you know, hey, here's how you organize your, your checking account.
- 16:46Jerry Potter: And then the next one, you make a video about, here's how you prep your taxes, and the next video, you make a video about, here's how you help your kids by giving them allowance, for example. These are all financial topics, right?
- 16:59Jerry Potter: But one of them is for somebody thinking about their, you know, day-to-day checking, the other one's for somebody thinking about taxes, and the other one is for a parent thinking about teaching, you know, money to their kids. So even though it all feels the same.
- 17:12Jerry Potter: It's not. So, what I like to do, I call it the channel filter, not a fancy name, but essentially, you need to decide
- 17:20Jerry Potter: One, who are your videos for? Okay? And the more specific you can be, the better. So I had another client who I just started working with, and she was helping people with interior design for their homes, but she had videos for real estate agents trying to sell houses.
- 17:36Jerry Potter: She had videos for Airbnb owners trying to make really nice-looking places so their photos would look good on, you know, on Airbnb's website. And then she had videos for homeowners. That's 3 different audiences, even if it's the same topic.
- 17:48Jerry Potter: So…
- 17:48Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Got it. So that niche of don't spray with, you know, don't pray and spray, spray and pray, whatever, but to really niche down into who your audience is for that specific channel.
- 18:05Jerry Potter: The more specific you can be, the faster YouTube is going to learn and understand. That's the goal there, okay? So that's the first part. Who's it for? The second part is, answer the question, what are they chasing? What is your viewer's dream outcome? And then the third part is, what are they escaping?
- 18:23Jerry Potter: So, the way this works out is what, you know, it's like, who are you talking to, what are you trying to help them achieve, what do they really want, and then what do they want to avoid? And so, for my main YouTube channel, which is all about helping you grow a channel in 90 minutes a week, you know, it is for online entrepreneurs.
- 18:42Jerry Potter: It is helping them, grow a lead-generating YouTube channel, and then it is without taking all of their time.
- 18:50Jerry Potter: So…
- 18:50Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Love it.
- 18:51Jerry Potter: That's it.
- 18:51Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Simple, simple formula for doing it, but I think where I keep landing and what the big aha here is, is that most of us think, oh, we can help everybody, and if we go back to that interior designer example, we think we're giving the right content.
- 19:08Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: But we're giving it to 3 different people, and so we really need to niche that down.
- 19:14Jerry Potter: Yeah, and if you're a heart-centered entrepreneur, it's even harder, because you're… you're like, oh, well, the communication skills I teach are great for parents with kids, and employees with their boss, and senior citizens talking to their caretakers, like, it's…
- 19:25Jerry Potter: too much, so we just, we want to be narrow. And then that becomes your filter. And I developed this, actually, after working with a couple of clients that I would go and I'd look at their YouTube channel, and I'm like, well, why'd you make this video?
- 19:35Jerry Potter: They're like, oh, I, I, it was a podcast, I wanted to be on their show, so I agreed to have them on my show. Or, oh, somebody asked me about that in my book club, so I just thought it'd be a fun video to make.
- 19:47Jerry Potter: You know, and they weren't completely off-topic. It wasn't like a business channel that all of a sudden was talking about horseback riding, but if it doesn't fit the filter, you can't put it on the channel.
- 19:57Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Got it. And so, so if you are, really interested in more than one topic, and you think you have the ability to do more than one topic, then you have two channels, right?
- 20:11Jerry Potter: Is that…
- 20:12Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: is that… that's really where it's gonna go. So if I happen to be, you know, a business owner who loves Latin dancing, right, which I do, and I have pictures of me dancing, and those that I like, and the moves that I like, then I want to have a second channel for that, not put it on the same channel.
- 20:30Jerry Potter: Yes, but I strongly recommend against trying to run two channels. It is just an overwhelming thing.
- 20:37Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Your 90 minutes become 5 hours.
- 20:39Jerry Potter: Right, get one working, and then figure out what that next piece is going to be for you, because otherwise, I actually just did start a second channel, and I'm already running into this, and I know what I'm doing, and I know how to do it, you know, quickly. But, you know, the only thing harder than running two channels would be trying to start two channels at the same time.
- 20:59Jerry Potter: Get one going, get your systems in place, and then maybe consider the other one. And then the great news about this is if you have an existing channel, you can retrain the algorithm.
- 21:09Jerry Potter: Good. And so, a few years ago, I had this channel, and my channel originally was all about helping people grow on social media. So I had tutorials about Facebook, Instagram, I did some Snapchat tutorials back in the day, you know, LinkedIn, all of it.
- 21:22Jerry Potter: But I'd started helping my private clients with podcasts, and it was because I developed this system where you could have a podcast, and then, because, you know, video podcasts were on the rise, and then turn that into all of your social media content.
- 21:34Jerry Potter: And I was like, okay, I think I want to teach this, but nobody knew me for podcasting other than this handful of clients. There were no blog posts, there was no speaking gigs, there were no video, like, there was nothing. I had zero authority. So I went and I published 10 videos in a row on my YouTube channel, all about how an entrepreneur can start a lead-generating podcast.
- 21:54Jerry Potter: And within 30 to 60 days, when people would sign up for the podcasting program I started offering, where'd you hear about Jerry Potter, a lot of them started saying, I searched for how to start a podcast on YouTube.
- 22:06Jerry Potter: And as you can imagine, That's a competitive keyword.
- 22:11Jerry Potter: But because YouTube all of a sudden went, oh, okay, he's helping people, he's helping business owners with podcasts, it immediately started, you know, promoting me for that. And that's how quickly it can happen, once it understands your channel. And so, yeah, I'd just like to emphasize, you can train YouTube, or you can retrain YouTube.
- 22:29Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: So, how long does it take to train the YouTube, algorithm to… to know that what you're doing? Is it just having enough content, making sure that all the… all the,
- 22:40Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: all the boxes are checked inside of the YouTube channel, and making sure that you've got all that lined in and dialed up so… so YouTube can recognize you, or is there some sort of a…
- 22:51Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: A game you have to play with YouTube to get it to recognize you.
- 22:55Jerry Potter: I wish I could say it's this exact number, but it absolutely isn't, because there's just… you know, there are too many variables, right? If you are going into a crowded space, it's going to take longer.
- 23:08Jerry Potter: I have a client that I worked with, and so, when we start this, the… I now, you know, I did 10 for the podcasting, but when we start this, I say, let's make 8 videos in a row. I call them your magnetic 8.
- 23:21Jerry Potter: And they're all designed to help that same person with that same problem. So none of my videos were about how to market or grow a podcast, it was just about, you know.
- 23:29Jerry Potter: picking out a microphone, how to pick out a name, you know, how to record, how to publish, how to choose a hosting platform, that kind of stuff. And so… so that's key, is we keep it really, really narrow, because we want someone to, you know, if somebody finds one of your videos, that we want them to go to your channel and go.
- 23:44Jerry Potter: Where are these… where's this channel been all my life? Oh my gosh, I need to watch all of these.
- 23:47Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: big. White.
- 23:48Jerry Potter: away.
- 23:48Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: The Netflix, the Netflix play.
- 23:51Jerry Potter: Exactly, but I had a client who, you know, if it's a brand new channel, it's gonna take longer as well, but I had a client who, she teaches French to Swedish women.
- 24:02Jerry Potter: In their 40s, okay? So, you know, if you want to put the channel filter on, I help women in their 40s learn travel French, I think she called it, without having to learn the entire language, because these are just women who live in Sweden that wanted to travel to France and be able to talk to people.
- 24:19Jerry Potter: And so, her Magnetic 8, even just a few videos in, she was starting to get 300 views on some of her videos. So, it figured it out really quick. Now, I imagine there's not a lot of channels teaching French to Swedish women, so she sort of had that advantage.
- 24:33Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Number 40.
- 24:33Jerry Potter: Coming in there, yeah. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So, so there's a lot of different variables, but the key is to get started, and even if during your 8, they don't start popping off.
- 24:45Jerry Potter: It doesn't matter. Those videos still serve as the foundation of the future of your channel, because once somebody does find you, then those are the videos that are, you know, we design them specifically to answer their most burning questions. What's keeping them up at night? What are they worried they got wrong? What are they worried they won't get right? Those type of things, because that's the stuff they click on.
- 25:03Jerry Potter: Because there's personal urgency built in.
- 25:07Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Now, do you highlight those as these are the ones that you start into? Because I know you can have, like, you can have your… you can section out YouTube into these videos, these videos, these videos, shorts, chapters, longs, whatever topic.
- 25:21Jerry Potter: It depends… yeah, it depends on, how they did for you, is usually how I advise people on this. Some people…
- 25:27Jerry Potter: have never made a video before, and, you know, they're publishing their Magnetic 8, and it might be that they had to sort of get their first videos out of their system, and they may not want to promote those, and that's okay. We all have to start with our first videos.
- 25:42Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: That would be horrific, you know? I remember my first… I remember my first video, because I started this podcast 7-plus years ago, oh my gosh, 7 years ago, and my first couple videos were, like.
- 25:53Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Hey, hi there, right? My girlfriend goes, who the F is that, right? And it's like, okay, well, that is bad. So yeah, it does… you do have a learning curve. I've got a client that's really flat, and we're trying to get him to be more emotional and exciting in his videos.
- 26:08Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: But it's like, he has to knock out 20 or 30 videos, sometimes some people do, before they start to get their personality going.
- 26:16Jerry Potter: Yeah, and that's why you have to go through those steps. But the good news is, if the content is, you know, fitting your filter, YouTube is starting to learn about you and your channel.
- 26:27Jerry Potter: So, if… but to answer your question, if the videos are good, and they bring you leads, then yeah, you know, I would… I would put them in the first row on my channel, so if somebody visits my channel, they go, oh my gosh, these are my questions, right? That feeling of, where's this channel been all my life?
- 26:42Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Yeah.
- 26:43Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: I love this. This is really good information about
- 26:48Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: how you do the videos for YouTube, but what I hear out there, and I don't know how much weight really comes.
- 26:56Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: is, oh, you gotta have the SEO, you gotta have the thumbnail that has you going, wow, look at this, you know, some goofy pose and some serious headline. Does that… is that really a drawing nature, or is that just somebody who wants to sell you their whatever?
- 27:13Jerry Potter: SEO still matters, but, like, 90% less than it did a few years ago.
- 27:19Jerry Potter: Essentially, the way I like to explain it is, YouTube's algorithm learned synonyms. So, it used to be that if you made a video called How to Make More Money in Your Business, or you made a video called How to Generate More Money in Your Business, those were almost like two different videos, and so if somebody typed in how to generate more money in your business, it's a weird phrase now that I'm saying it out loud, but…
- 27:44Jerry Potter: in that scenario, your video might be more likely to come up. But now, that's the same title, and so that's where it doesn't matter anywhere near like it did. So…
- 27:55Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Okay.
- 27:55Jerry Potter: That's the good news. Like, I mean, people used to spend hours just doing keyword research for a single video. Now, you should still use keywords, use the words your people are using, but you don't have to, like, rest on that. That being said, titles and thumbnails are absolutely important. You know, the way the cycle goes.
- 28:12Jerry Potter: I started a brand new channel last month as an experiment, and I think I'm gonna run with it, but I was like, I just want to prove that YouTube will promote videos from a small channel. And I was like, you know, maybe it'll take a week, maybe it'll take two, I don't know, we'll see.
- 28:26Jerry Potter: So I kicked off this channel at 7am on a Wednesday, and I put up, I put up 3 videos to start. I put up 3 videos, and I was like, okay, let's see what happens. Then I, you know, kind of checked back in, like, oh, that'd be pretty cool if it happened in the first day, but it probably won't.
- 28:39Jerry Potter: Well, sure enough, 14 hours later, that video had gotten 100 impressions, and it got its first view.
- 28:46Jerry Potter: the same day. I didn't tell anybody about this channel, because the algorithm, you know, saw the title, the description, it knows what you say, it knows what's on screen, and it decided to try and match that up with the viewer.
- 28:59Jerry Potter: And it did. And so, that's the beautiful thing about this, is when you… when you get this right, it can happen really, really quickly. Okay. So, it is… it is this, you know, opportunity right now. Now, that being said, a lot of people say, oh, don't ever send people to your YouTube channel, you'll mess up the algorithm. Have you ever heard that?
- 29:18Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Ugh, yes, I've heard everything when it comes to this.
- 29:21Jerry Potter: Well, let's debunk that, okay?
- 29:22Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Okay, good.
- 29:23Jerry Potter: if you send the right people to your channel, it does not hurt, it helps, because if, you know, because everybody on YouTube pretty much is logged into their account.
- 29:34Jerry Potter: So, let's say you sent 10 people there that all watched the video, and they watched, you know, maybe not all of it, but, like, 60% of it. Then YouTube looks at those 10 people and goes, okay, what do these 10 people have in common?
- 29:44Jerry Potter: Cool, alright, let's find more people like that, and suggest this video to them.
- 29:49Jerry Potter: So… so back to your question about what's important, because this is maybe the biggest takeaway here. If… first, YouTube is going to suggest your video to people, those are called impressions. I told you that brand new channel, 100 impressions by the end of the first day. So that means it showed up somewhere on YouTube. Then your title and thumbnail are what get people to click.
- 30:07Jerry Potter: And if they click, and then they watch a decent amount of it, then YouTube will start recommending it to more people.
- 30:14Jerry Potter: If nobody clicks, the impressions die. If people click and nobody watches more than, you know, 25 seconds of a 5-minute or a 10-minute video, then YouTube will stop recommending it. And so… so they are important.
- 30:27Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Okay, and you just said something that really hit an aha for me, so… or maybe not.
- 30:35Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: So, if I like long-term content, such as podcast videos, that go 30-plus minutes, and the short-term attention span of most people is, you know, 25 seconds, right?
- 30:50Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: these are gonna look bad because they don't get that longer play. So, is it in my best advantage to call my long-term videos
- 31:00Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: 5-10 minute videos versus 30-minute to an hour videos.
- 31:06Jerry Potter: It all comes down to…
- 31:08Jerry Potter: the right person clicking on the right video, right? That's all YouTube is trying to do. And so, to answer your question, some people are gonna drop off. Like, my most successful videos lose a third of the people, at least in the first 30 seconds.
- 31:21Jerry Potter: But sometimes it's just not right, or they didn't like the color of my wall, or my face, or, you know, whatever. Like, sometimes people just bail, and that's okay, and that's part of it. If you've never looked at a YouTube retention graphic, it can be one of the most depressing things in the world if you don't know…
- 31:34Jerry Potter: what you're looking at, right, because it's basically like, look at all the people walking out of the auditorium while you're on stage, so…
- 31:39Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Oh my god. Yeah, but it's normal, like…
- 31:42Jerry Potter: Yeah, but it's normal, so…
- 31:44Jerry Potter: So to answer your question, on new channels, I often recommend starting with shorter videos. Not only are they easier to make, and by shorter, I'm talking, you know, 4 to 7 minutes, 8 to 10 minutes. I'm not talking about, you know, YouTube Shorts.
- 31:57Jerry Potter: And
- 31:58Jerry Potter: The reason for that is because if somebody doesn't know who you are, or you don't have a lot of social proofs, let's say you've got 80 subscribers, or 12 subscribers, or, you know, 211 subscribers, whatever it is, but your video seems to match up with what they're interested in, and it's 5 minutes, they're much more likely to click on that, versus if it's an hour.
- 32:18Jerry Potter: And so, that's where I kind of recommend, easier to make, and somebody's more likely to take a chance on them in the beginning. That being said, I know people that have started by publishing hour, 2-hour, 3-hour, like, in-depth trainings, and they've done really well. So, there's no universal rule.
- 32:34Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: content, or whatever, they brought the right person in, that right person clicked, they got in there, and then they got hooked, right? Exactly.
- 32:42Jerry Potter: Yeah, and so if you are sending external people to your videos, like, if you're gonna email your list, or you're gonna tell people about on LinkedIn, I always like to say, tell them exactly what they're gonna get, so the right person can't wait to click, and the wrong person doesn't click.
- 32:55Jerry Potter: Like, you don't want a bunch of people dropping out, and then I usually will tell them, like, in my emails, how long the video is. Go watch this video, it's 9 minutes, sometimes I'll say, if you watch it 2X, it's only 4 and a half, and here's what you're gonna get from it, because I don't want somebody to click it and go, ugh, 9 minutes, I was hoping this was a one-minute video.
- 33:13Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Got it, got it. Okay, these are just… wow. And so… so back to your 90-minute claim.
- 33:20Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Yes. You know, I'm starting to sweat here, because there's a lot of moving factors when it comes to, putting the videos out and understanding, but that's kind of front-loaded in your setup, in your design, or your SOP that you would do for doing your videos.
- 33:36Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: But actually, recording a video and producing it and getting it uploaded once a week for 90 minutes is… sounds… is easy-peasy, but the front-end setup might take you a little longer, correct?
- 33:48Jerry Potter: Yeah, I have a program where I help people in… I call it the YT90 system, where they implement it in their business, and I've even designed the program to only take 90 minutes a week as you implement. And the reason for that is a couple, you know, one.
- 34:02Jerry Potter: you've… YouTube is not a place for perfection, and I know that makes some people uncomfortable, but you've gotta let go of that, okay? My father-in-law is a structural engineer for Boeing, the airplane manufacturer. Airplane manufacturing is a place for perfection. Please get that.
- 34:16Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Complete.
- 34:17Jerry Potter: Yes. YouTube is not. Let it go. There is no most perfect channel award that's ever been given out, right? So, and I know that's hard for people, but it's so, so important as you're getting started.
- 34:27Jerry Potter: the 90 minutes a week, you know, or even just doing things in as little time as possible, I'll give you the key things to focus on, because they're gonna have that highest return on effort, okay? Yes, in the beginning, you're gonna have to get a camera and film, but I filmed my first 25 videos in front of a window with my phone.
- 34:44Jerry Potter: I always tell people, like, what gear do I need? What gear do I need? I'm like, make 5… publish 5 videos first.
- 34:50Jerry Potter: then think about some other gear, because you've already got your phone.
- 34:54Jerry Potter: So, what we put our effort in. Definitely your topics, right? You want to make topics that are interesting to people, and your titles and your thumbnails. They don't have to be amazing, AI can help with this, but have good, strong topics, titles, and thumbnails. Then put the effort into your script, or not even your script, I don't recommend word for word, but at least your outline.
- 35:14Jerry Potter: Here's what I'm going to talk about in what order. And the key is, you need to present things in a way that people want to keep watching, right?
- 35:21Jerry Potter: So if you give away the best tip in the first 30 seconds, like, the video says, I'm gonna give you one tip that'll change your life, and you give it away in the first 30 seconds, and you don't open a new loop, then, you know, people are gone.
- 35:31Jerry Potter: This is hard for people. I actually built an app for my members to help them write their scripts so that they didn't have to think about that, but you can also ask ChatGPT or Claude to do that as well. So,
- 35:42Jerry Potter: Those are the main things to put your effort into. Don't put your effort into the best lighting, the best sound, the best shot. You need decent stuff, right? But as long as people can see and hear you, that's what happened, that's what matters. There's a woman, has a channel, her name is Maggie, and she has over 200,000 subscribers, and the videos that first blew up her channel are just her walking through a park.
- 36:05Jerry Potter: like, holding up her phone and talking to it. You know, I… I don't know for sure, but I don't think she had any makeup on, there's no graphics, there's no music, there's nothing. That's it. If your script, if your information is valuable.
- 36:19Jerry Potter: fancy editing.
- 36:20Jerry Potter: just doesn't matter. There's another woman, Suki Baxter, who has a channel that has, I think she's approaching 600,000 or 700,000 subscribers, and some of her videos are just her in front of a plain wall with a window for light. Like, she just sits in front of this grain, you know, plain grain… plain gray wall, that's tough to say, and has, like, you know, 100,000, 200,000 views on these videos, so…
- 36:43Jerry Potter: Let go of that. That is not worth putting your time into, and I think for a lot of us, we use the gear and the setup to procrastinate.
- 36:52Jerry Potter: To protect our self-esteem.
- 36:54Jerry Potter: And you gotta get yourself out there. I heard somebody say last week, they said, don't worry if you put out a bad video, nobody will see it. So, if that's, you know, if that's comforting, you can know that.
- 37:05Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Yeah, exactly, exactly. And you know what? I think authenticity is what people want, right?
- 37:10Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: that's why I don't cut or chop or, you know, retake and, you know, do things here. But yeah, I think they want that. They want what sounds real, and they want to know who you are. And if you show up without, you know, even some movie stars these days are showing up without makeup and hair and all that kind of stuff.
- 37:31Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: And people are leaning in, going, wow, you're human.
- 37:34Jerry Potter: Yeah. Authenticity's become sort of a cliche the last few words, but it really is so important, and I think people are tired of…
- 37:42Jerry Potter: swiping through these fast-paced, you know, TikToks and Shorts and Reels, where it's just a new graphic every one second, and then you realize 15 seconds later there was no value there.
- 37:53Jerry Potter: And they want to reconnect with humans. You know, more and more people are, you know, their only coworker now is talking to ChatGPT, and they're like, oh, cool, here's a… here's a human. Nothing wrong with talking to ChatGPT. I'm in there every single day, but yes, I think people are craving that authentic human connection now more because of AI.
- 38:11Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: I love it. Wow. Jerry, this is so good, and I know we can go on and on and on, and I have so many questions, and I just… I lean into this because I think that, you know, the one thing about YouTube that I really value is that it's there forever.
- 38:27Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: You know, it goes up, and it's there, and someone can find you months, years later, and it's still up there, unless you take it down, or you get, you know, shut down. But I think the content is, like.
- 38:41Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Like, LinkedIn, you put a post on LinkedIn, and if it's not… I mean, it's gone in the feed within seconds. Sometimes I can't even find my own thing that I just posted, right? So if I can't find it, how is somebody else gonna find my stuff? And that's why I'm thinking that this YouTube
- 38:57Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: and it's not new, but using YouTube as a real, true partner in getting your visibility out there so people can find you is equally as strong
- 39:09Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: of a tool as your website, if not even more, and knowing that Google owns YouTube, and Google is still, to this moment, the number one search engine out there. I mean, I know the AIs are coming in close.
- 39:24Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: But even, like you said, AIs are even recommending YouTube channels, so this is a platform you should strongly consider using. And with that being said, where can listeners find out more about you? How can they… how can they do this in less time and effort and see the success that you and your clients are seeing?
- 39:44Jerry Potter: So, if you're gonna invest time in YouTube, the first thing I'd like to say is decide it's important, or decide it's not. And if it's important, invest the time, maybe a little money, whatever you need, for it to be successful. Because otherwise, it'll just drive you crazy. And the other thing I like to say is, you know, commit to 6 months, but
- 40:01Jerry Potter: as, you know, overwhelmed entrepreneurs, business owners, it's really hard to do this, and that's why the whole YT90 system is about getting started, so you can build it as a side hustle, because you're not going to see the benefits right away, but you can start seeing it compound over time. So.
- 40:15Jerry Potter: I put together a resource, it's called the YT90 Roadmap, and it'll walk through the most important things to focus on, a little bit of what we talked about today, but more, so that you aren't wasting time on the wrong things.
- 40:26Jerry Potter: And then it also has a little assessment you can do, where you can really understand, is YouTube gonna work for my business to be a lead generator, or is it gonna be a total time suck? Because it's not for everybody.
- 40:36Jerry Potter: And so you can get that at yt90roadmap.com.
- 40:41Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Love it. So good, and so helpful, and there's so many different ideas, and I love how you started out saying, don't listen to everybody on YouTube, because they might not be doing what's the right thing, and you've just given us the right tools to focus on, and I think that's the clarity that is missing.
- 40:58Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: By just randomly going out and trying to pull it off yourself, so…
- 41:02Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Listeners, go take Jerry up on his offer and get that assessment and that tool.
- 41:07Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Alright, thanks for tuning in today. I hope you're walking away with some practical ideas that you can put to work right now to grow a more profitable and valuable business.
- 41:18Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Gosh, I know I'm gonna go… as soon as we get off this, I'm gonna go try Jerry's… Jerry's assessment, because, YouTube, I mean, I even use it for this podcast, and… and I know it's not giving me what I need, so I'm… I need the tweaks done.
- 41:32Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Alright, before you go, if you want a clearer path to more revenue and stronger profit, go grab your free Profit Booster Growth Map. It quickly shows you all the top opportunities to grow revenue and stop the profit leaks that may be holding your business back.
- 41:48Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Go get it anytime at ProfitBooster.biz.
- 41:53Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: And if this episode gave you value, please be sure to subscribe and share it with another business owner who may need to hear it.
- 42:01Marcia Riner | Profit Booster®: Well, I'll see you on next week's show with more strategies to help you grow smarter and profit stronger. So until then, make your plans and profit with them. Thank you so much, Jerry.
- 42:12Jerry Potter: Yeah, thank you for having me.