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Fair Territory: Angels $4B record sale, Sal Stewart’s ROY case, Aaron Judge nearing return? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome, everyone, to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, and I'm welcoming back our friend and colleague,
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Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo. Alana, we've got a ton to get to today.
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Speaker 1: We want to get into the angel sale and get
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Speaker 1: into it at some length. But first, we have another
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Speaker 1: topic to talk about, and I'll let you kick it
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Speaker 1: off from here.
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Speaker 2: All right, Ken, good to be with you as always.
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Speaker 2: The story of the week, you mentioned it. Undoubtedly, Artie
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Speaker 2: Moreno selling the Angels to Stan Kroenke. We're going to
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Speaker 2: get into that. However, I wanted to shine a light
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Speaker 2: on a player that maybe otherwise doesn't get enough spotlight
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Speaker 2: in the modern analytical game. That is a man by
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Speaker 2: the name of Sal Stewart and somebody that you just
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Speaker 2: had a column on. Tell me more.
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Speaker 1: Right. Well, I wrote today about why he deserves NL
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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. And I guess with the injury
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Speaker 1: to J.J. Weatherholt, It's less of a question than maybe
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Speaker 1: it was two weeks ago. Weather holds out. He's expected
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Speaker 1: back this season. He's got a wrist issue. We'll see
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Speaker 1: if that happens. And maybe Carson Bench or Nolan McClain
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Speaker 1: or some other rookie has a huge end-of-the-season surge. And
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Speaker 1: at that point, all right, maybe Sal Stewart has a
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Speaker 1: legitimate challenger. But the reason I wrote this was here's
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Speaker 1: a guy, a rookie, who leads the major leagues in RBIs.
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Speaker 1: Only two rookies previously have done that. One was Walt Williams,
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Speaker 1: the other was Walt Dropo, and that's quite a feat.
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Speaker 1: And yet, in the era that we're in now, with
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Speaker 1: our emphasis on modern analytics, which are often more telling
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Speaker 1: than RBIs and batting average and some of the old
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Speaker 1: school stats, my fear is that his accomplishments would get lost. Now,
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Speaker 1: RBIs are context dependent. In other words, they depend on
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Speaker 1: what the teammates are doing, your teammates are doing, what
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Speaker 1: the game situations are, and certainly Sal Stewart has more
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Speaker 1: opportunities than, say, J.J. Weatherholt or Carson Bench. One of
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Speaker 1: the reasons he has more opportunities is because the Reds
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Speaker 1: have trusted him from the start of the season to
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Speaker 1: hit in the middle of the order or a prime
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Speaker 1: upper position in the order as well. He was clean
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Speaker 1: up opening day. So, to me, this is something that
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Speaker 1: is a little different than the usual rookie of the
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Speaker 1: year candidacy, and right now, the way voters go about this.
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Speaker 1: And I'm one of them. We look at war, wins
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Speaker 1: above replacement quite seriously and should. That's a starting point
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Speaker 1: often for these discussions. It is not the end all
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Speaker 1: be all. And with Stewart, his war is not going
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Speaker 1: to be great because he's kind of bounced between positions,
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Speaker 1: hasn't played one. And also first base is his main position.
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Speaker 1: That's a position he barely played in the minors. He's
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Speaker 1: kind of learning it on the fly. So he's not
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Speaker 1: going to have the defensive prowess that Weatherholt does or
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Speaker 1: even Bench. But here's a guy who's doing some rare
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Speaker 1: things offensively. And I talked to Joey Votto for this article,
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Speaker 1: for Justin Turner, Nolan Arenado, and just about the whole
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Speaker 1: idea that RBIs still do matter. Joey doesn't necessarily think
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Speaker 1: so the way the others do, but they do matter.
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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you this. You said you
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Speaker 2: talked to Joey Votto about this, and he did say
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Speaker 2: something in terms of A quote that he said in
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Speaker 2: this article, he said, if, for example, they plugged him
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Speaker 2: in at second base all year, he would have gotten
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Speaker 2: the defensive benefit, would have gotten the reps at the position.
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Speaker 2: He would have been probably the best offensive player at
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Speaker 2: that position. That's a lot of the reason why I
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Speaker 2: think he's the rookie of the year. It just so
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Speaker 2: happens they're putting him in a few different positions, which
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Speaker 2: makes it quite a bit harder to adjust to the game.
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Speaker 2: I agree with them on that, but I also wanted
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Speaker 2: to ask you, Ken, about when or why did RBI
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Speaker 2: stop mattering, so to speak? Now, Joey Votto is obviously
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Speaker 2: talking about war there, but why did RBIs all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden get less of an importance if they did?
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Speaker 1: Well, they certainly are not looked at the same way
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Speaker 1: they once were. And I kind of touched on it
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Speaker 1: a lot when I described how RBIs are so context-dependent.
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Speaker 1: and how it depends on what others are doing and
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Speaker 1: the game situations and the opportunities. We all understand that.
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Speaker 1: And there are certain individual statistics on base percentage, slugging percentage,
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Speaker 1: all the ones that are based or have park adjustments. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they're more meaningful individual offensive statistics. What I have a
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Speaker 1: bit of a problem with is that this is about
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Speaker 1: winning baseball games. It's about scoring more runs than the
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Speaker 1: other team. And people who do that, While I know
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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a repeatable skill year to year, driving
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Speaker 1: in runs, certain players can do it better than others.
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Speaker 1: Certain players have a knack for doing it. And again,
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Speaker 1: it seems like Stewart certainly is one of those players.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Certainly a cool story. You can read the entire thing
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Speaker 2: in its entirety on The Athletic. A great story there
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Speaker 2: by Ken Rosenthal. One more piece of business. Ken is
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Speaker 2: a busy man this week, as always. Let's talk about
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Speaker 2: it in On Deck, presented by Fox One. All right, Ken,
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Speaker 2: you have two games this week. The first one is
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Speaker 2: Brewers at the Cubs. Logan Henderson is the latest Brewers
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Speaker 2: pitching revelation. Tell me more.
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Speaker 1: Logan Henderson is a unique pitcher. And MLB.com had a
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Speaker 1: terrific story, I believe it was last week, about how
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Speaker 1: his changeup is like the Devin Williams changeup. It's this
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Speaker 1: high spin changeup that is rare among changeups. And his
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Speaker 1: fastball also has interesting movement. And in talking to Brewers
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Speaker 1: pitching coach Chris Hook yesterday about Henderson, He made the
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Speaker 1: point that this guy is fearless. He is someone who
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Speaker 1: will make any pitch at any time. And for a
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Speaker 1: young pitcher, that's quite impressive. Here's a guy who has
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Speaker 1: still five years of control remaining. That's why the Brewers
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Speaker 1: wouldn't trade him for Tarek Skubal. And he has been,
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Speaker 1: along with Mizorowski, one of the best pitchers on their staff.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: You have another game coming up. It is the Yankees
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Speaker 2: at the Padres this week in the Probables, Ken. Carlos
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Speaker 2: Rodon versus Robbie Ray. You are on the broadcast, of course,
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Speaker 2: on Saturday. And Aaron Judge, I believe, is nearing a return.
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Speaker 2: What more can you tell us?
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Speaker 1: He is nearing a return. And we talked about this
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Speaker 1: last week on our broadcast when we had the Yankees
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Speaker 1: and Red Sox. He went on this road trip to
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Speaker 1: the West Coast, which started in Anaheim and now will
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Speaker 1: continue to San Diego. And It seems that he's going
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Speaker 1: to be back on the next homestand if everything goes smoothly.
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Speaker 1: Now the Yankees return home next week. They play the
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Speaker 1: Rockies first and then the Mets in a series that
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Speaker 1: starts on 9-11. The two New York teams playing on 9-11,
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Speaker 1: the 25th anniversary. It's going to be something else. And
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Speaker 1: who knows when he'll be back exactly, but it's expected
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Speaker 1: next week. And then the Yankees offense, which has shown
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Speaker 1: more life of late, will look that much better.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he certainly only is going to make the
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Speaker 2: team better. I'm sure everybody would love to have Aaron
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Speaker 2: Judge back. The Padres, though, Ken, may now likely be
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Speaker 2: without starter Joe Musgrove for the season. He hasn't pitched
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Speaker 2: since October 2nd of 2024, almost two years ago.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had another setback just the other day
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Speaker 1: in which he didn't just feel right coming out of
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Speaker 1: his latest appearance in his rehabilitation assignment. And It's always interesting, Alana,
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Speaker 1: teams count on guys coming back. And you hear, well,
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Speaker 1: we're going to get this guy back, this guy back.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be like an addition at the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: We hear it all the time. The Padres have been
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Speaker 1: missing Musgrove and Nick Pavetta, and they're not back yet.
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Speaker 1: And who knows if they come back, what contribution they
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Speaker 1: will even be able to make in a positive way.
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Speaker 1: So the Padres at the deadline, this is why they
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Speaker 1: added Robbie Ray and Casey Mize, because of the uncertainty.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure Padres fans are frustrated because they're This
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Speaker 1: team with Musgrove and Pavetta looks a lot better even
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Speaker 1: than it does now. And they're still right in the
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Speaker 1: thick of this thing. My goodness. They're right in the
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Speaker 1: NL wildcard race. But if those two guys have been healthy,
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Speaker 1: who knows what this club might have looked like.
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Speaker 2: Ken, what do you think in terms of the Padres
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Speaker 2: kind of trying to piece that rotation together? You said
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Speaker 2: they're right in the thick of things. I mean, do
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Speaker 2: they have enough pitching? Let's just assume they get into
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Speaker 2: the postseason, obviously, via the wildcard. Do they have enough
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Speaker 2: pitching to get deeper?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Mize has not been that great for them.
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Speaker 1: They have gotten better work out of Vasquez and Buehler
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Speaker 1: of late, and Michael King has been a legitimate ace
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Speaker 1: all season long. And of course, with the Padres, the
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Speaker 1: unique thing about their club is they don't need necessarily
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Speaker 1: great starting pitching because once they start lining up the relievers,
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Speaker 1: best bullpen in baseball, it's generally over if they have
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Speaker 1: a lead. So they're a little bit different in that sense.
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Speaker 1: Do they have enough to Make a deep postseason push?
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Speaker 1: You would think not, but this is a team that
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Speaker 1: is quite accomplished. Tatis and Merrill have come back from
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Speaker 1: where they were earlier in the season when they were
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Speaker 1: struggling so badly. They're now contributing to Tatis in a
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Speaker 1: big way. Manny Machado has not been quite the same.
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Speaker 1: Ty France having an amazing year. I never count them out,
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Speaker 1: and it's interesting now Ethan Salas is up as a
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Speaker 1: 20-year-old catcher. I don't know how much they're going to
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Speaker 1: use him, but there is talent there. There is postseason
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Speaker 1: experience there, and I just do not rule them out
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Speaker 1: in any postseason series going forward. They're not as strong, perhaps,
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Speaker 1: as they would like to be, but they're still a
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Speaker 1: pretty formidable group.
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Speaker 2: Luis Robert Jr., Ken, they put a waiver claim on him.
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Speaker 2: They ended up losing him to the Orioles. How close
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Speaker 2: were they to getting him?
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Speaker 1: Well, you know how that goes, Alana, with the waiver claims.
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Speaker 1: It's in reverse order of standings, and the Orioles had
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Speaker 1: a worse record than the Padres, so that did it.
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Speaker 1: The Padres were not close because the Orioles grabbed him
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Speaker 1: before they had a chance. So their interest is telling.
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Speaker 1: They've been looking for a right-handed hitting outfielder, of course,
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Speaker 1: but it just didn't happen for them. All right.
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Speaker 2: Right now, the Padres, just a half game. out, Ken,
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Speaker 2: the inside dish and the big topic of conversation around
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Speaker 2: the sport, Ken, is the sale of the Angels. It
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Speaker 2: looks like Stan Kroenke taking another team. I think he
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Speaker 2: has six now over the course of two continents, but
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Speaker 2: it's good for baseball, I think. A lot of people
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Speaker 2: wanted the Angels to be sold. Artie Moreno finally did it.
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Speaker 2: Why was now the time?
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Speaker 1: Alana, that is the question that I have had ever
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Speaker 1: since we heard this. My assumption is was that Artie Moreno,
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Speaker 1: one of the labor hawks, a guy who has wanted
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Speaker 1: a salary cap, would wait to see the outcome of
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Speaker 1: the labor negotiations in hope of getting a salary cap,
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Speaker 1: and then having his franchise value escalated, and then he
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Speaker 1: would sell at that point. That is what I thought
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Speaker 1: his plan would be. Other owners, I believe, have that plan,
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Speaker 1: that they want a cap, and the cap would enhance
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Speaker 1: their franchise values, and then boom, they cash out. Well,
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Speaker 1: we might not get a cap, but That was not
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Speaker 1: what I was thinking that Artie had in mind. So
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Speaker 1: to do it now with a month left in the
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Speaker 1: season before the labor negotiations really even get going, it
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Speaker 1: was a shock. And remember, he backed out three years
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Speaker 1: ago when he had the team on the market, took
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Speaker 1: them off the market. And yet it seems here a
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Speaker 1: couple of things happened. One, he got his price, $ 4 billion,
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Speaker 1: record price for a major league team. He remains a
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Speaker 1: minority owner. But at the same time, he wanted out,
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Speaker 1: and perhaps, and this is one theory I heard, because
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Speaker 1: it had been such a negative atmosphere in that ballpark
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Speaker 1: and has been all season long. You see the tarps
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Speaker 1: off crowd. You see what they're chanting. Some of it's
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Speaker 1: profane toward Artie, and maybe he just decided it was
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Speaker 1: all just too much. Now, it seems to me that's
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Speaker 1: a secondary reason behind the $ 4 billion, but he's 80
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Speaker 1: years old, and he may have just decided, I don't
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Speaker 1: need this. Now, the bigger thing here, is what this
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Speaker 1: does for the Angels. And I wrote the other day,
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Speaker 1: this is Independence Day, because Artie Moreno, running them into
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Speaker 1: the ground would be too strong a statement, but he
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Speaker 1: certainly has not run a very effective operation the past
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Speaker 1: several years. Early on, it was good, but they've got
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Speaker 1: a string of losing seasons now and no direction. Now,
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Speaker 1: Kroenke comes in. He's obviously got money. He's been successful
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Speaker 1: in other sports. He lets his front office people and
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Speaker 1: management do their jobs without interfering, which is not something
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Speaker 1: Artie did. He was frequently interfering. It seems to me
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Speaker 1: that they're going to be in a much better place.
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Speaker 1: And this team is a sleeping giant. They play in
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Speaker 1: one of the largest markets in the country, for goodness sake.
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Speaker 1: They play in one of the wealthiest counties, Orange County,
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Speaker 1: in the country. And they should be a team that
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Speaker 1: is successful year after year, bidding for the top free agents,
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Speaker 1: putting together the kind of machine that the Dodgers have.
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Speaker 1: Now with Kroenke, and you mentioned a lot of his
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Speaker 1: success in other sports, so many other sports, it would
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Speaker 1: seem that there is hope that that will happen. It
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Speaker 1: would seem, too, that there is hope that perhaps they'll
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Speaker 1: get a new ballpark in time, and everything is going
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Speaker 1: upward from here.
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Speaker 2: I have another question. I have a couple of other questions.
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Speaker 2: Let's start with the new ballpark first. Could it be
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Speaker 2: a situation, Ken, when Stan Kroenke, if he doesn't get
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Speaker 2: a new ballpark in Anaheim, that he moves the team
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Speaker 2: like he did with the Rams?
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Speaker 1: Anything's possible, right? And I know there's been speculation already,
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Speaker 1: put a team up in that area, but it seems
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Speaker 1: to me, and when I mean that area, the SoFi
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Speaker 1: area in LA, but it seems to me, though, that
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Speaker 1: he wants a team in Anaheim. He wants them there.
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Speaker 1: There's a good amount of distance from Los Angeles. It's
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Speaker 1: a separate market in so many ways. So the idea
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Speaker 1: of moving it, yeah, he might use that as a
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Speaker 1: threat to get what he wants in Anaheim. But to me,
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Speaker 1: the deal is in Anaheim. And for people who haven't
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Speaker 1: been in that stadium, that stadium is in an area
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Speaker 1: where you can build quite a bit around it. There's
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Speaker 1: some space there. There's a hockey arena there, of course.
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Speaker 1: But If they want to build something like the Battery,
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Speaker 1: this is something that Artie Moreno wanted to do years ago.
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Speaker 1: The Battery in Atlanta, duplicate that. They can do that.
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Speaker 1: And that would seem to me to be the plan.
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Speaker 1: So therefore, not only is the stadium a goldmine, the
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Speaker 1: surrounding area is a goldmine. And bingo, here we go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, location, location, location. Real estate is all the rage
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Speaker 2: in that area. Let me ask you this, Ken. How
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Speaker 2: do the Angels sell for more than the Padres? $ 4 billion.
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Speaker 2: I could not believe that number.
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Speaker 1: They sell for more than the Padres because they are
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Speaker 1: arguably in a bigger market. They are in a bigger market.
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Speaker 1: Television market-wise, it's not even close. San Diego is one
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Speaker 1: of the smaller television markets in baseball. The Padres have
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Speaker 1: built a very successful operation. They play in a beautiful ballpark.
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Speaker 1: And that is why they sold for the number that
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Speaker 1: they did. And the Angels are a team, again, in
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles area, Southern California market. And despite their
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Speaker 1: lack of success... What Kroenke sees is this potential that
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Speaker 1: we just discussed, Alana, and that potential is vast. No
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Speaker 1: matter what economic system comes into play after these collective
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Speaker 1: bargaining negotiations are over, the Angels are going to be
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Speaker 1: in a great spot. And that's what he sees. And
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Speaker 1: I know from the sheer successes of the two franchises,
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Speaker 1: when you compare them, you would say, well, the Padres
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Speaker 1: should be worth more, but it's the market size that
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Speaker 1: dictates the price.
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Speaker 2: Ken, how, if at all, do these change in ownerships,
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Speaker 2: new ownership groups, the Angels and the Padres, affect the
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Speaker 2: upcoming collective bargaining agreement?
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Speaker 1: That too is a good question, Alana. And I would
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Speaker 1: say probably not at all. The owners want a cap
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Speaker 1: and they want a cap to enhance franchise values. Now
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Speaker 1: you might say, well, Padres just sold for a record,
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Speaker 1: then the Angels topped their record. What's the problem? The
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Speaker 1: owners would say, And I'm not necessarily agreeing with their
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Speaker 1: argument for a cap. You know that. But here's their argument.
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Speaker 1: That other teams in smaller markets are not in position
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Speaker 1: to sell for these kinds of numbers. And that a
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Speaker 1: cap would give owners and teams cost certainty. And once
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Speaker 1: they have that cost certainty, then, of course, they become
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Speaker 1: more valuable. Obviously, we all understand that argument. We all
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Speaker 1: understand where the owners are going with this. I disagree completely.
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Speaker 1: that a cap is necessary. I do believe, and I've
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Speaker 1: said this repeatedly, I am not against the small market
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Speaker 1: teams getting a benefit or more of a benefit. They
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Speaker 1: deserve that. They need that. The disparity between the large
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Speaker 1: market revenues and small market revenues are too vast. What
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Speaker 1: I have said repeatedly is that a cap is not
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Speaker 1: needed to address those disparities. You can institute a cap
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Speaker 1: yes and you would address it you can do it
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Speaker 1: in other ways without tearing down your sport and shutting
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Speaker 1: it down for a year or whatever it's going to
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Speaker 1: be so that's my argument but the owners again they
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Speaker 1: want the cap they say for competitive balance and i
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Speaker 1: understand that position even though i don't agree with it
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Speaker 1: the real reason as we all know is they want
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Speaker 1: their franchise values to escalate and it cannot happen across
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Speaker 1: the sport in their opinion without some kind of cost certainty.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions, Ken, in the chat in
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Speaker 2: terms of this whole sale. And a lot of folks
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Speaker 2: are asking, and they want to ask you, and we
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Speaker 2: will have Grill and Ken in a moment, but a
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Speaker 2: lot of folks want to ask you, how much do
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Speaker 2: you think the fans had a role in this? I mean,
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Speaker 2: every single night they were calling for Artie to sell
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Speaker 2: the team, those types of season, those types of games.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can see it here. They were chanting
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Speaker 2: their displeasure. How much did they have a say in it.
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Speaker 1: If at all? I touched on this earlier, and we
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Speaker 1: all know the atmosphere at the ballpark for Artie Moreno
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Speaker 1: has not been good. And I talked to someone yesterday
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Speaker 1: who said he had heard from Moreno that, yeah, the
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Speaker 1: negative atmosphere did affect him and did kind of prompt
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Speaker 1: him to do this now. I still would say the
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Speaker 1: price mattered more than anything. going on in the ballpark.
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Speaker 1: If he hadn't gotten $ 4 billion, it's not like he
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Speaker 1: was going to sell for $ 3 billion and not get
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Speaker 1: what he wants. He had to get what he wanted.
18:58
Speaker 1: Once he got the price that he wanted, then I
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Speaker 1: would think maybe he thought, okay, enough's enough. I don't
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Speaker 1: need this. My family doesn't need this. So maybe the
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Speaker 1: fan revolt, and it was a fan revolt, had a
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Speaker 1: positive effect on him in terms of compelling him to
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Speaker 1: sell the team. And if so, good for the fans.
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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. One thing, last thing. What does
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Speaker 2: this mean for Mike Trout?
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Speaker 1: I would say nothing. And Mike Trout has been exceedingly
19:28
Speaker 1: loyal to the Angels, to the criticism of some who
19:31
Speaker 1: believe he should want to play for a contender. He's
19:34
Speaker 1: refused to waive his no trade clause or even entertain
19:37
Speaker 1: a trade. And part of his loyalty stemmed from Artie
19:41
Speaker 1: Moreno giving him two massive contracts. He was loyal to
19:44
Speaker 1: the person who paid him. I don't expect this to
19:47
Speaker 1: change under Kroenke because now, if you're Mike Trout, you see,
19:53
Speaker 1: even at age 35, the chance for this thing to
19:55
Speaker 1: get real good real quickly. And I would expect that Trout,
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Speaker 1: and he has basically said this, he wants to stay still.
20:03
Speaker 1: And why would you think that he would have a
20:05
Speaker 1: different opinion? Here, they finally have hope. Now he's going
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Speaker 1: to leave? No. Now is the time to stay and
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Speaker 1: maybe be a part of something special, get to the postseason,
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Speaker 1: and actually, for the first time in Mike Trout's career,
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Speaker 1: maybe even win a postseason game.
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Speaker 2: Finally, for Mike Trout, he is an owner that wants
20:25
Speaker 2: to win. Great information, Ken. We appreciate it very much. Next,
20:29
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22:02
Speaker 1: I'm the dude, so that's what you call me.
22:07
Speaker 2: All right, Ken, time for Dude and Dork of the Week.
22:09
Speaker 2: My dude is Eugenio Suarez. Congratulations to him. He was
22:13
Speaker 2: away from the Reds for a couple of days for
22:15
Speaker 2: good reason. He took and passed his citizenship test. He
22:18
Speaker 2: is now an official citizen of the United States of America.
22:22
Speaker 2: Very proud of him. Very cool. Obviously studied for it.
22:26
Speaker 2: Did all the things that he needed to do. Did
22:27
Speaker 2: it the right way. Congrats to him.
22:30
Speaker 1: Absolutely one of my favorite guys. My Dude of the Week,
22:33
Speaker 1: Colton Couser. In case you missed it, Catch he made
22:36
Speaker 1: in Colorado the other night was one of the great
22:39
Speaker 1: catches you'll ever see. And we see a lot of
22:41
Speaker 1: great catches all the time in Major League Baseball. So
22:43
Speaker 1: many gifted outfielders. This catch, though, prevented a walk-off home
22:48
Speaker 1: run by Jake McCarthy and ended the game. So it
22:52
Speaker 1: was the pivotal moment in the game, the ultimate moment.
22:55
Speaker 1: It was literally do or die. Make the catch, you win.
22:59
Speaker 1: Don't make the catch, you don't win. The Orioles won.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good job, Colton Kazler, your Ken's Dude of the Week.
23:05
Speaker 2: All right, time now for Dork of the Week. My
23:13
Speaker 2: dork of the week, Ken, is the whole situation with
23:16
Speaker 2: Cattell Marte not showing up for a game and then
23:20
Speaker 2: reintroducing himself and apologizing wearing this hat. May the bridges
23:24
Speaker 2: I burn light the way. I mean, of all the
23:27
Speaker 2: don't you can't tell me for one second, Ken, that
23:29
Speaker 2: that wasn't planned. That is just not the way to
23:32
Speaker 2: go about it. You are my dork of the week
23:34
Speaker 2: for a variety of reasons, Cattell Marte.
23:37
Speaker 1: All right, my dork, it's a little bit of a
23:39
Speaker 1: lighter touch. I want to show you a photo of
23:41
Speaker 1: a fan the other night. This made me very curious.
23:46
Speaker 1: He's wearing a Yankees jersey. Now, which way are you
23:49
Speaker 1: going to go, pal? Pick a lane. And really, I'm
23:51
Speaker 1: disturbed because this person appears in need of some kind
23:54
Speaker 1: of help. He has conflicting emotions going on in his
23:59
Speaker 1: very presence, his very being. So I hope the fan's okay.
24:02
Speaker 1: And man, two AL East teams and One body? I
24:05
Speaker 1: don't know.
24:06
Speaker 2: And also, I don't even think the Orioles and Yankees
24:09
Speaker 2: were playing in that game. So he's wearing two different
24:11
Speaker 2: uniforms at a game that doesn't even include the teams.
24:13
Speaker 2: It's like if you go and wear an Adidas hat
24:15
Speaker 2: with Reebok shoes and Nike sweatpants. He's just a mess.
24:19
Speaker 4: All right.
24:19
Speaker 2: Time now for Grill and Ken really quick. All right.
24:28
Speaker 2: We don't have a ton of time for this, so
24:30
Speaker 2: the first question I'm going to ask you is, when
24:33
Speaker 2: are people going to make a bigger deal about Chris
24:36
Speaker 2: Sale becoming the next pitcher to 3,000 Ks? Ken, this
24:41
Speaker 2: question is from Jim Jim Huerta.
24:44
Speaker 1: I would say Chris Sale has gotten plenty of attention
24:46
Speaker 1: this year, and he will get attention for this accomplishment
24:49
Speaker 1: as well, and I wouldn't worry about that. He and
24:52
Speaker 1: his resurgence have been one of the best stories in
24:54
Speaker 1: baseball all season long. That performance against the Dodgers, I
24:58
Speaker 1: believe it was about a week ago, was one of
24:59
Speaker 1: the great performances this season. And sure, 3,000 strikeouts is coming,
25:04
Speaker 1: and the Hall of Fame is going to come to
25:07
Speaker 1: five years after he retires.
25:08
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. I loved his son being so
25:10
Speaker 2: psyched that he was coming back out to throw the
25:13
Speaker 2: ninth inning. All right, this is a question in regards
25:16
Speaker 2: to Mike Trout. We were just talking about the Angels
25:18
Speaker 2: and the new ownership. MikeLewis1788 wants to know, is Trout
25:22
Speaker 2: ever going to be held accountable for his role in
25:25
Speaker 2: the Angels losing year after year? I'm not sure that's fair,
25:28
Speaker 2: but he's still one of the faces of the sport
25:30
Speaker 2: and needs to be treated as such as far as
25:32
Speaker 2: criticism goes. I don't necessarily agree with this, but I'm
25:35
Speaker 2: interested in your opinion.
25:37
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it either, and he is accountable
25:40
Speaker 1: for his performance. He's been hurt a lot, and certainly
25:44
Speaker 1: that's been part of it, but is he the reason
25:45
Speaker 1: the Angels have had losing season after losing season? No.
25:49
Speaker 1: And Yes, he does deserve any criticism like any player
25:52
Speaker 1: deserves criticism when warranted. I just don't see that it's warranted.
25:57
Speaker 1: And he's come back this year. It hasn't been a
25:59
Speaker 1: great year, but it's been a better year. And I'm
26:02
Speaker 1: good with Mike Trout.
26:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am too. Mike Trout has done nothing but
26:07
Speaker 2: be an ambassador for the game. Certainly wish he was
26:10
Speaker 2: healthy more. We all wish that, but Mike Trout is
26:12
Speaker 2: a good guy. All right, this is from C Carrera 951. Actually,
26:16
Speaker 2: Armand is amazing. We'll go there. Which rookie met has
26:19
Speaker 2: a better chance to battle Sal Stewart for rookie of
26:21
Speaker 2: the year, Nolan McClain or Carson Bench?
26:24
Speaker 1: I would say whichever one has the better month. And
26:27
Speaker 1: both these guys have good candidacies. And in maybe another year,
26:30
Speaker 1: they'd be frontrunners. Carson Bench struggled at the start of
26:34
Speaker 1: the year, but since May 1st has been really good.
26:37
Speaker 1: And McLean, kind of the same. Since, I believe, June 1st,
26:40
Speaker 1: he's been outstanding. He's ranked eighth in the National League
26:43
Speaker 1: in ERA. And both of these guys, if they have
26:46
Speaker 1: big finishes, are going to be definitely in the conversation. Maybe, well,
26:51
Speaker 1: certainly top five. And one of them will be top three.
26:54
Speaker 1: I expect Weatherholt will be in the top three as well.
26:56
Speaker 1: But a big finish would help either of their chances.
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Speaker 2: All right, Ken, always good to be with you on
27:02
Speaker 2: this Thursday. Thanks for having me. That is it for us.
27:05
Speaker 2: Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. We'll be back, of course,
27:08
Speaker 2: on Sunday night. Yes, that is Sunday, 7 p.m. Eastern.
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Speaker 2: Next is Foul Territory. Eric Kratz, Todd Frazier, Scott Braun,
27:16
Speaker 2: guest Phillies play-by-play man Tom McCarthy. Love him. And fish
27:19
Speaker 2: on first. Isaac's a stout. All right, guys, we'll see
27:22
Speaker 2: you next time.