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Patriots Unfiltered 7/24: Takeaways from First Two Days of Training Camp, Mike Onwenu In-Studio Interview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: All right, we're we're.
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  Speaker 2: In no open.
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  Speaker 4: We are in it to it. We are in it,
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  Speaker 4: just like.
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  Speaker 2: We're right into camp, day two of training camp here
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  Speaker 2: at Let's Stadium. It's Paul Pirilla, myself, Dus and Evan
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  Speaker 2: will be pere shortly as soon as availability is over.
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  Speaker 2: Practice just ended a few moments ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, another beautiful day out two for two with the weather.
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  Speaker 2: Little windy, little windy, but a beautiful day out there.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So let's let's get right into it, Paul, because
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  Speaker 2: we've got two days to kind of wrap up here
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  Speaker 2: on this show. You know, I say that its attendance
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  Speaker 2: is good. Good to see that. I'd say in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the offense people, that's the first thing I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: on people's minds, little you know, off and on Little Rocky.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say the you know, when the passes
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  Speaker 4: are getting thrown in general, they're getting completed, which is good.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't look like there's a lot of confusion in
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  Speaker 4: terms of you know, route running and alignment and things
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  Speaker 4: like that, so I would say those are things on
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  Speaker 4: the positive side. There have been times I think that
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  Speaker 4: some of these plays probably would have been blown up
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  Speaker 4: with pressure, but I don't worry about that stuff yet.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna tell you I'm not worried about it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying yet, because of the obvious. You know
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  Speaker 4: that your shorts and helmets on Wednesday today, I think
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  Speaker 4: they had shells on. But it's very hard to gauge
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  Speaker 4: how much the pass rush as a result of not
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  Speaker 4: being able to really have contact. So I would say
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  Speaker 4: that Harold Landry calevon Chase on on Wednesday in particular,
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  Speaker 4: those guys were constant presents in the backfield on a
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  Speaker 4: lot of plays. I think they disrupted things, but overall,
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  Speaker 4: I think a good start, good, not great, good start
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  Speaker 4: for the offer.
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  Speaker 2: I think today what they were working on was the
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  Speaker 2: short passing. Yeah, a lot of quick stuff when there
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  Speaker 2: was pressure. I think they were sending pressure to test
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  Speaker 2: out that short passing game. Getting rid of the ball.
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  Speaker 4: I would agree with you that that was the goal.
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  Speaker 4: I would think I would say it was a little choppy, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: you know some of them that I looked like exactly
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  Speaker 4: the way Fred just described it. They wanted the ball
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  Speaker 4: out immediately, and Drake wasn't able to get it out
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  Speaker 4: immediately because either there was someone in his face or
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  Speaker 4: the guy wasn't open yep, So he was like sort
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  Speaker 4: of double clutching a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But like like you said, I think pretty much everything
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  Speaker 2: he threw except for one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could count on one hand the
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  Speaker 4: amount of incompletions in the last two days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that doesn't mean that in a real game
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  Speaker 2: they would be because, like you said, sometimes the guy's
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  Speaker 2: there and the balls thrown anyway.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of the completions today, especially like Fred said,
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  Speaker 4: were really sure. Yeah, a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Short But I think if you're wondering how Kyle Williams
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  Speaker 2: is doing, I think he showed up yesterday, had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of good catches. I think a couple of them
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  Speaker 2: were against Gonzo, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had one one in particular. I think he
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  Speaker 4: ran Gonzo off, you know, a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: comeback out, you know, depending on how you want to
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  Speaker 4: classify a comeback route on the sideline, and it looked
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  Speaker 4: like he did a good job of separating from Gonzo
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  Speaker 4: went up, made a nice, nice strong hands catch on
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  Speaker 4: the sideline. Today, not as good, had a couple of drops.
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  Speaker 4: He had one drop in in team and then mishandled
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  Speaker 4: a punt trying to do some punt return stuff. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I would say that Kyle Williams definitely was was a
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  Speaker 4: presence on the first ad.
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  Speaker 2: Pop had a nice sideline, had a good day to day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So that was good to see.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like Drake is really trying to The idea
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  Speaker 4: is to try to get the ball in as many
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  Speaker 4: different receivers hands as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Offensive line. I know that got a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: headlines yesterday because of the pressure that was Happy Morgan
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  Speaker 2: Moses might have had a little bit of a rough
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  Speaker 2: day yesterday. I wouldn't make too much of a big
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  Speaker 2: thing about it, But something I noticed today with Campbell I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Interested in this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where he was lining up, I think he'd be
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  Speaker 2: flagged during the game. I think he was too much
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  Speaker 2: off the line, and I think that caused him problems
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  Speaker 2: because in his drop step because he was starting so
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  Speaker 2: far back by the time he set, he was right
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  Speaker 2: next to Drake May.
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  Speaker 4: I'm eye on that.
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  Speaker 2: I think you need to get your point of contact
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  Speaker 2: a little sooner than that. And I think it started
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  Speaker 2: with where he was lined up, and then, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: his drop step where he would eventually set and have
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  Speaker 2: his point of contact. His back was almost touching Drake May.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want that, you want a little bit of it.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely thought there was some issue with Morgan Moses
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  Speaker 4: at times with that Kansas is it Juwan Taylor? I
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  Speaker 4: forget the guy's name though. Yeah, he was tackle for
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  Speaker 4: Kansas City, the right tackle that always beats the snap.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Morgan Moses was doing a lot of that
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  Speaker 4: today and I wonder if that was, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: result of getting beat by Harold Landry a lot yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: But those are things when the pads come on we
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  Speaker 4: can really focus on. But the alignment thing is interesting
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  Speaker 4: because that doesn't matter about it.
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  Speaker 2: He was a little bit further back than I think,
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  Speaker 2: But what do I know. I'm looking at it from
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  Speaker 2: the ramp, but I did have my binoculars. What what
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  Speaker 2: I do like about Campbell is his feet. He's really
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's six five, and I yeah, short arms.
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  Speaker 2: Forget about that. He's a big guy, and he moves
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  Speaker 2: a lot smaller than his size. He's a lot quicker.
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  Speaker 2: He's a lot quicker than his size.
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  Speaker 4: He has good feet, no doubt, but it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a learning curve. I think they've I think those
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  Speaker 4: both of those guys struggled a little bit with the
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  Speaker 4: edge guys. Chase on was was pretty good yesterday. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: all right, So that's the way I choose to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know me positive Paul start of camp fresh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I look at the defensive The defensive line was supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be much improved, and we've kind of seen those
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  Speaker 4: guys be active in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Rush yep, So you can look at it either way.
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, yesterday, there was a big dog adoption
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  Speaker 2: thing going on. Players brought up puppies and the team
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  Speaker 2: teamed up with three animal shelter you know, big name,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Rescue League and I forget the name
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  Speaker 2: of the other two, but they had forty dogs here.
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  Speaker 2: Every one of them got adopted and it was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: The owner was here with his wife, Dana, and that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be sort of an initiative going forward with
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  Speaker 2: the team. Is finding these dogs homes. So that was
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  Speaker 2: really cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess everybody thought it was very
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  Speaker 4: well received. I know a lot of people get there,
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  Speaker 4: what doesn't love dog except for you? Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I know, we've got to take the obligatory shot, but
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  Speaker 4: that's okay. It was a good day for the organization.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, really nice. Stefon Diggs was kind of the star there.
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  Speaker 2: The dog he was bringing up, he decided to let
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  Speaker 2: it down and the dog ran away from.
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  Speaker 4: Him, and we panicked because he's like on the other
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  Speaker 4: side of the fence, and it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 4: uneven you know, terrain, right, like, oh, he's gonna twisting
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  Speaker 4: an ankle or something worse.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're wondering how he's looking, he's looking good.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's running really really well. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: you'd really know that he was coming off of torn
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  Speaker 4: a cl Now we'll see what happens when he starts
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  Speaker 4: getting hit and all that stuff, But right now, I
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  Speaker 4: would say that's probably the most positive development of Camp
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  Speaker 4: is his presence and not just that he's out there.
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  Speaker 4: About how he looks.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I'm like I said on our last show, I'm
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  Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised that he's out there full tilted. I'm surprised
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  Speaker 2: at how good he looks. So that's all. That's good news.
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  Speaker 2: That's really good news. Something to monitor that happened today,
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  Speaker 2: Christian Barmore off to the side a little bit, working
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  Speaker 2: with a trainer. I don't know what that was all about.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he passed his conditioning run, so.
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  Speaker 4: He was in. So you know, that's good that you
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  Speaker 4: brought that up, because I do think that's an element
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  Speaker 4: of today's practice. That's a takeaway. He opens the first
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  Speaker 4: team period at his normal spot.
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  Speaker 5: It was.
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  Speaker 4: Him and Milton Williams sandwiched around Tongaga, and those three
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  Speaker 4: took part in the first team period, you know, probably
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  Speaker 4: six six or so plays. Then Barmore came out and
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  Speaker 4: as practice progressed, he was on the left field. Now
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  Speaker 4: all this work took place on the right side, he
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  Speaker 4: was on the left field with one of the Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I like, I want to call him Joe Kim, but
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  Speaker 4: I know Joe Kim's not here anymore. But someone like
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  Speaker 4: that had like those arm pads, you know, working on
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  Speaker 4: hand placement. So I don't know if he was rehabbing
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  Speaker 4: any kind of an injury or if it was or
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  Speaker 4: if he just you know, was dealing with something. So
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  Speaker 4: they were making it slow form. But I think we
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  Speaker 4: got guests, so we'll stop yapping and make way.
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  Speaker 2: It's Big Mike, Way for Big Mike and one.
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  Speaker 5: You sit right.
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  Speaker 2: Here wherever you want to sit. You you tell me
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  Speaker 2: where you want to say. I'm not telling you you've
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  Speaker 2: never been in here.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Fred says, Please feel free to visit us
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  Speaker 4: anytime you'd like. Yeah, the door is always.
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  Speaker 2: Want to do your own podcast, we'll do that for you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm Fred Kurchis, Paul Pirillo, Mike and one you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us right off the practice field. How's
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  Speaker 2: it going?
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  Speaker 7: Is going good? I feel good? This is day three. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I'm really just excited to keep going on.
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  Speaker 2: Day three for you, day two for the public.
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  Speaker 4: For the scar.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so things are going good. Question I have
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  Speaker 2: for you because I don't know if you've been watching
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  Speaker 2: the Forge in Foxborough documentary that we've been putting out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Doug Marone was talking about two other coaches
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  Speaker 2: that he works with, Koo's and hass and he said
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  Speaker 2: it's three voices, but we're all on the same page. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: how does that work for you to do? Just like
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  Speaker 2: one of them focus more on the interior, Like, how
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  Speaker 2: is it working with those three coaches?
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  Speaker 6: It's been great.
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  Speaker 7: Really, they're all really knowledgeable, or all three of them.
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  Speaker 7: They kind of split it up day to day or
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  Speaker 7: you know, sometimes host takes the interior, sometimes kooks take
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  Speaker 7: the tackles. Sometimes coach Marown takes the interior. So I
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  Speaker 7: mean it's just kind of day to day. But we're
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  Speaker 7: all preaching the same things and coaching the same things.
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  Speaker 7: But it's good to get the insight. Also, it's three
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  Speaker 7: odds looking at your technique, looking at yourself and just
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  Speaker 7: you know, you get that insight of what you're doing
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  Speaker 7: with it's right or wrong, and you know, going to
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  Speaker 7: the practice field and making sure you get those on
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  Speaker 7: the field, make sure you getting those reps.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Like you.
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  Speaker 4: Get some new guys you know on either side of you,
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  Speaker 4: you know, with with Garrett Bradbury and Morgan Moses. Just
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  Speaker 4: how's that progression come? And you know, the comfort level
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  Speaker 4: for you guys.
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  Speaker 7: I'm very me personally, I'm very comfortable. I think we've
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  Speaker 7: all played a lot of football, So I mean as
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  Speaker 7: of you know, coming into the spring and coming into
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  Speaker 7: the season, we've been communicating, really just getting on the
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  Speaker 7: same page and making sure we understand each other. And
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  Speaker 7: so far we've been feeling great. I've been feeling good
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  Speaker 7: about where I am and where they are.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a lot of experience between the three.
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  Speaker 6: For sure, you know it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So is that a comfort thing, like you're quicker
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  Speaker 2: to be in the same page.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say, so. You know, we all see
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  Speaker 7: the same things through the same set of eyes. So
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  Speaker 7: it's it's not like you got a second guess. You know,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I know where where Garrett is going to be.
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  Speaker 7: I know where Mo is gonna be. If we've got
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  Speaker 7: a blitch off the edge, I know he's going to extend.
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  Speaker 7: So it's like, you know, I can put myself in
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  Speaker 7: a position.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what was the off season like four years? Do
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  Speaker 4: you do anything different this year? You've been around a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. Now we're going to call you a veteran
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  Speaker 4: now because you around.
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  Speaker 7: The summer was the same. It really just worked out,
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  Speaker 7: kept busy. I was here in the spring and summer,
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  Speaker 7: so you know, I felt good. I really was just
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  Speaker 7: excited about coming back and having everybody back together. You know,
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  Speaker 7: those spring practices were good. You know, it was mostly passed.
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  Speaker 7: So I mean it feels good to run the ball
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  Speaker 7: now and get out and run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So do you, as an offensive lineman look forward
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  Speaker 2: to the first day in pads as much as you do?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? Exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Camp starts Monday for you guys, right, yeah. Yeah. We
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  Speaker 4: keep talking about, well, it looks like Harold Landry and
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  Speaker 4: calevon Chasen they're coming off the edges. But we always say,
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  Speaker 4: it's just so unfair for you guys to try to
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  Speaker 4: like really physically pass block when you're not wearing pads. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, just how how difficult of a challenge
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  Speaker 4: is that for you don't have to work on techniques.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to say its difficult, but I mean
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  Speaker 7: we've been going to get against each other from the spring.
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  Speaker 7: We know that those guys have speed. Also, it doesn't
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  Speaker 7: help that they know our cadences, know our snapcounts when
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  Speaker 7: we run, you know, we say our snapcounts.
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  Speaker 6: So it's it's not that hard the timing.
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  Speaker 7: But obviously that makes us better and gets us better
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  Speaker 7: for our opponents that are doing the same thing. So
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  Speaker 7: you know, they're using as a as an advantage, and
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  Speaker 7: we we're using as an advantage as well, getting off
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  Speaker 7: the ball and make sure we're getting off the snap
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  Speaker 7: on time.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. So what's what's once the practice is over
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  Speaker 2: for how's that been for you? The meetings? You know,
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  Speaker 2: this is the first year with Mike Vrabel and his staff.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see any difference or is that just routine?
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  Speaker 6: I think it's been routine. One big difference.
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  Speaker 7: I think we've been practicing earlier this year, so I
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  Speaker 7: think a lot of guys are liking that. You know,
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  Speaker 7: you kind of come in, get your mind right, get
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  Speaker 7: really practiced, and then the rest of the evening is
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  Speaker 7: to watching the film, installs and stuff. So it allows
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  Speaker 7: us to have a little bit a little bit of
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  Speaker 7: time and not practicing during the hottest part of the day.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, we get our work in and then
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  Speaker 7: we get to improve and get the corrections.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, some of the rookies you got obviously will on
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  Speaker 4: the left side, but you get some other new guys
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  Speaker 4: in there. Jared Wilson has been I see coming in
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  Speaker 4: and out of the lineup. And what are your impressions
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  Speaker 4: been for some of the new guys.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, really, I'm impressed by all of them. I think
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  Speaker 7: they're all they all have talent, they all can play.
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  Speaker 7: I really like them really from top to bottom, you know,
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  Speaker 7: all of the rookies, and especially in my room as well,
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  Speaker 7: but you know, Jack Kui, Uh, Marcus, like really everybody
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  Speaker 7: can play and they all they all have talent. So
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  Speaker 7: you know, I really just can't wait to put the
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  Speaker 7: pazzle on for them to just let it roll.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: I guess we have to kind of ask you, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just your impressions of Drake, you know, by comparison, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as a rookie, came in sort of you know, taking
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  Speaker 4: a back seat to Jacobi last year. What have you
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  Speaker 4: seen different about his approach as the starter?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Drake has always been the same guy,
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  Speaker 7: I think really, you know, he leads by example. He's
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  Speaker 7: vocal as well, but you know, really just from the huddle,
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  Speaker 7: from the snap at the at the line of scrimmage,
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  Speaker 7: and really just in the workouts, you know, always positive energy.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you don't want to get things wrong because
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  Speaker 7: you don't want to disappoint Drake. So I mean, like,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I think that's that's that's for everybody you
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  Speaker 7: know me as a line included or alignement included. You know,
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  Speaker 7: you want to do your best and obviously do the
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  Speaker 7: right things on the line.
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  Speaker 2: So when you're out there, it's my final question because
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  Speaker 2: I know you you got you gotta get going. Do
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  Speaker 2: you ever glance over to that building that they're building
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  Speaker 2: over there, Yeah, that's what we're gonna.
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  Speaker 7: Be next year. Yeah, we had walked through yesterday. It
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  Speaker 7: was a it was a little weird just looking to
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  Speaker 7: the left and I'm just like, man, it's a it's
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  Speaker 7: a whole big building right usually or last year, uh,
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's just trees in the background.
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: But it's cool.
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: You know, we'll be able to come out and come
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: on our grass field and just be able to do
• 15:13
  Speaker 7: walk through or really just get some grounding.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I've seen some of the mock ups. It's going to
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: be pretty cool.
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: All right, Mike, We'll let you get back to it
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: stopping by anytime. This is where we are.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: I'll be here, all right, Thank you, Thanks Mike, sir.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: All right, Mike, and when you coming off the practice
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: field and joining us here in Patriotson.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Filter that's all right, Mike, Mike shows that scene. It
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter. He doesn't count, all right now. You know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: it's just interesting, you know. I kind of as we
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: were talking to him, I was thinking like, how young
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: the left side could be, yep, But at the flip side,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: how experienced the other side? You know? And I think
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: if you're Garrett Bradbury or Jared Wilson, how much that
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: changes the dynamic, you know, because she got obviously Moses
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: thirty four years old. Yeah, Mike's been around now, which
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: is sixty year for Mike twenty twenty yeah.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's fifth year. Yeah, well twenty sixty three, yeah.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: Six years.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: So you know, there's a lot of experience from the
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: middle to the right, but not as much, even if
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: it's cold, strange, not as much to the left.
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: You traded Mike's Hey, Mike, get a little Mike, get
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: a little sweaty or just switched chairs.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: No, it's fine. I like it, you know, I like it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: So I feel like I got you know, I got
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: involved in procut some of his DNA, not creepy one
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: of that dog of me yet uh, you know, it's
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: hung around listening to some of the interviews and Morgan
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Moses was interesting to asked him about the rotation going on.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: He said, I'm not really paying attention to it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: Obviously they have some you know, younger guys they want
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: to get some reps too, But I don't know what
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: it's about. But he said, I did say it's the
• 16:45
  Speaker 8: new offense for me, so I'm learning a little bit.
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: One other line I thought was good.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: He's like, man, these guys they got no pads on,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: we had nothing to grab onto.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: You know, we can't stop them.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: So, uh yeah, a couple little nuggets there from Morgan Moses.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike was similar on that. We were talking about
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: it a little bit, just saying it's not even just
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: that we can't hit them, it's they're they're familiar with
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: what we're doing, our alimate cadence, you know, so they're
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: getting a jump now.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Good stuff, you know.
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: Kendrick Bourne talking a little bit about Josh McDaniels the
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: return of the offense. Of course, everybody wants to know
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: what's different, you know what What has changed in Kendrick's
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: point of view on it was that he's got some
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: different coaches and philosophies around him now.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: So that's what's altering the scheme a little bit.
• 17:24
  Speaker 8: It's still the fundamental basis of it is Josh McDaniels
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: and the language that he speaks offensively. But I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: we'll have to wait and see what the influent influence
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: is of you guys from the rams and you know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: guys from all the different trees.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: So yeah, good stuff, good stuff.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: That I mean. I I was interested because in the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: in the documentary, Maron mentions he's got the other two assistants.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: He's got Hoss and he's got Cogs, and you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: they all could be the headline coach on their own.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: So you've got these three voices, but they're speaking is
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: one and might confirm that he's said, you know, it's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: really good. Sometimes you're working with one, sometimes you're working
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: with the other and getting technique tips and whatever. But
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: it's all the same message.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I like that has guy. Like I
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: like listening to him.
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: He seems like an I said, offensive line coach through
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: and through just that, like yeah, Jason Howdling has of
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: course they got the nicknames and everything, but that hope
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: it all comes together.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: This is what we've been talking about.
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: Diggs, I think has shown up positively the first couple
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: of days, and I think Drake has shown up positively.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Seems like he's grasping things.
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: It is in stops and starts and all that kind
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: of stuff, and now we wait to see.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you agree today it was a lot of
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: underneath under pressure type of passing.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: And uh, you know, as Evan actually asked Moses about it,
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: seemed like you guys were sending a lot of They
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: were sending a lot of pressure at you.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Today they're sending some blitzes today too.
• 18:47
  Speaker 8: So I think that's part of Josh's offense, is getting
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: the ball out quick, the little swing passes.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: You know, we saw James.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: White and plenty other players feast off of that kind
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: of stuff.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Listen, if I'm an opposing team defensive coordinator, I'm testing
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: out the second year quarterback, I'm gonna send pressure at him. Yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I mean more than more than it maybe I would usually.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: I think I got Paul in my head now though,
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: where it's like, Okay, it's good. We're completing a lot
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: of passes, you know, around getting the ball out quick.
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: Let's find some big plays. Now, it's start to hunt
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: that stuff. As the weak progressive.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would I would agree with Fred that
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: today it clearly looked like the goal was to get
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: the ball out quick and go for the underneath stuff
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: against pressure, you know, and I think that's what they
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: were supposed to do. I just felt like there was
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of double double pumping on some of that stuff,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Like guys weren't uncovering quickly enough. Sure, you know, more
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: so than the pressure. I thought it was the coverage. Yeah,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I one hundred percent agree with that a couple of times.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: I mean, one of the I guess it was one
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: of the first plays there in the third series where
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: Drake had to tuck and run up the middle. It
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: didn't seem like anybody was open, but it seemed like
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: a pretty good day for Pop Douglas.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Who that's it, that's where he should be kept.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I thought he was. I thought he was good today.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I thought he was getting open quickly, and you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I made sure if you catch on the sideline. But
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I thought the bread and butter stuff is the quick hitters.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna uncovered quickly. And yeah, like the past,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: you know, the passes for the most part for two
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: days being complete Yeah, so that's what you want to say.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Evan. Lazar joins us as well, Hello, Evan, has we turned.
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: So?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Evan, I want to ask you, and you know you
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: can go free form after this question. But I was
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: talking with Paul before Mike got here, and I was
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: had my eyes on on Campbell for a little bit,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And would you say that he was lining up a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: little bit too far back? What might he have been
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: flagged for that in a real game? And I'm wondering
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: because of that, when he was doing his drop and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: when he got to his set, I thought he was
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: just too close to Drake. What did you think?
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: I thought that there are some times where that might
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: have been the case. I don't know about where he
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: if he was going to be flagged for where he
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: was lining up. It's kind of hard to tell about
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: saying right down the line, but I think right now,
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: when for any young player, pretty much all of them
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: probably you know, he's trying to figure out like where
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: his set points are going to be at this level.
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: You know where we worked in college worked in college,
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: but this is a different game, and it was something
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: that in college, you know, he would often get opened
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: up a little bit too quickly, and that would allow
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: guys to swim inside of him, you know, across his
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: face and get inside. So I bet you there's some
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: tinkering going on with his stance, with his feet, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: with his set points of where exactly he's going to
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: hit his landmark. So it'd be interesting to see how
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: they kind of progress here. But we were just talking
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: to Morgan Moses after practice and I asked him, like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: what what do you tell the young guys about these
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: non padded practices, and he said, don't get discouraged because
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: we got nothing to hold on to, Like we go,
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: there's there's no pads.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: We had in here, and he said the same thing. Yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: you know, they're.
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: They're in these practice jerseys and they're slippery and they're
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: they're hard to get your hands on them like that,
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: So don't don't get discouraged that you might be missing
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: some blocks that you think you should be making, because
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: once the pads go on, it's a different game.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, we did have Mike here and we
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: were talking about the three coaches that are involved with
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the offensive line and he agreed with what Doug maroone
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: said and Forge and Foxborough that you know, it's great
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: having all three. They all speak the same and it's
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the same message, even though you might be working with
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: a different one one day than another. Uh, he's really
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: liking it. He finds it really helpful.
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, it's to me, it's it's the
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: tipping point of the team is if.
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: They can block.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I know it all starts there if they.
• 22:46
  Speaker 10: Because I think the rest of the pieces that they
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: have will be good enough, and especially with Josh Pack like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: I think he'll be able to get guys open and
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: he'll be able to game plan and and do all
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: that stuff to move the football. Can they block and
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: they hold up up front? And you know, they seem
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: to be really trying to find a home for Jared
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: Wilson as well. I think they just look at his
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: talent and are like, we this is a talent upgrade
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: if we can find a spot for him, whether it's
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: at center or it's a left guard. So there's still
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: some tinkering there with the lineups and as it is
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: right now, it's it's hard to kind of say how
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: the results are and non padded practices, but that's that's it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: That's the X factory.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I saw Wilson and he came in one play and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: had a bad snap.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too bad for him, And yeah, we're unsure
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: on that. I'm almost positive it was Bradbury.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: It was a debate in the I think Wilson.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I think Wilson was that left guard.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I'm that sorry, Jared Wilson if I got you wrong.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: But I'm not positive. There was a couple other people,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: and then I was Mike and I were really watching
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the rotations from that point on for the other the
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: ensuing team periods, and it would be Bradbury at center,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: and then Wilson would come in at left guard for
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: a play for Strange, and then the next play Bradbury
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: would leave, Wilson would go to center, Strange would return,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: and I could swear the play that there was a
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: fumbled snap on after the play, Bradbury was among the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: linemen that was running off.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, to tell all right.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: So I can't tell you definitively with a thousand percent certainty,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: but I think it was Bradberry. Yeah, okay, but every
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: but there was a couple other people that thought, would
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: you guys, Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: I thought it was Wilson too, But maybe you could
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: be right. Maybe he was at left guard and it
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: just happened fast.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Right and you see him come from that direction, right, Yeah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: But either way there was an a boarded snap. Whoever
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: it was on, it doesn't really matter. There was an
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: a board snap. But yeah, I mean, I know that
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: it gets boring talking about the offensive line sometimes, but
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: for this team like that, that's it more.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Boring than anything else. Well, I was just thinking about it,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: win you.
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: I mean, he's had a different offensive line coach every
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: single year of his career.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: It's changed every single year. It's it's got to add up.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: It's not easy to do.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Up to seven years and you.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: May not even have had a coach.
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I've been David Andrews and
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: James Farris.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Right right crazy.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about the wide receivers. Williams
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: had a good day yesterday, a little less so today.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Pop Douglas had a nice catch today. After I asked
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you how' zeft and Chisholm doing, you said, really, he
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: hasn't done much yet. He came in and had a
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: nice pass down the field there where he found a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: soft spot and had a catch. Yep, Yeah, yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: No, another you know, good day, they're completing passes, thought
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: Travian Henderson.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: You saw a little glimpse of the potential he might have.
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: Just coming out of the backfield on the swing passes
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: and that kind of thing. Rawandro Stevenson right back in
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: the mix as you would think he would be. But
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's it's you know, fair to
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: point out. I went on the radio this morning to
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: talk about the rotation, and everyone said, oh, Moses was
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: pulled for performance. Well, now that's not true.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: In fairness, one person said that the person who was
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: interviewing was the only person that I didn't read anybody
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: say that. I didn't read, I didn't hear anybody say
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: that except for the question that you got hit right
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: out of the choot with this morning anything on one
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: of my shows.
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: I think we're all excited for the you know, stability
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: that Morgan Moses could potentially represent. But it's also real
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: positive if if this team sees some potential in trade
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: Jacobs and you know, I mean that's Morgan Moses isn't
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: gonna be the long term solution, even if he has
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: a great year this year. So the fact that they're
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: keeping that door open and continuing to get to Montree
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: Jacob's reps. I mean, I know he had a bad
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: year last year amongst everybody having a bad year.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: But if they were to somehow get.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Him on track and solve that problem that right tackle
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: for the long term with trade Jacobs, then that's bigger
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: positive to me.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Then.
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: You know, if Morgan Moses has one good year, that's
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: about that's some Patriots Dot Com positive, right, Sure?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I was. You know, like I said, if Moses actually
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: gets beat out by Jacobs, Moses isn't a bad backup.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I you know, tremendous optimism here. But I mean, but seriously,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: if you're a thirty four year old veteran, isn't as
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: good as what they had last year, we're spinning that
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: as a positive.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, if this guy beats some out,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: legitimately beats him out.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Yes he's yes, you think that's good. Oh yeah, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: but you saw the guy play like Jared Wilson. If
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: he beats out Bradbury, that's good. He's an incoming rookie.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: We've never seen him play. If he's better than a veteran, okay,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: that's good. But I've seen Trey Jacobs.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: He can't have improved, you know, like, if he's.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Better than Morgan Moses, that's not good. I actually look
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: at it as I'm a little disappointed we're not seeing
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: kayont those opportunities to be the swing tackle.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: You think Morgan Moses is good? Yes, yes, So if
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: he beats him out, isn't that a good thing?
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: That means he's not mean the wrong way? Right, it
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: means he hit the he hit the wall.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I guess you could look at it that way.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: Now, I'm not guys think I'm first team reps though,
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: looking like, oh my god.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: It's a disaster.
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: Like they're saying that because I think Morgan is on
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: the pitch camera right now.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: You keep but you keep saying that, like you guys
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: are saying that. I'm not saying anything about Morgan Moses'
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: performance the body language of having like, oh my god, Jacobs,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: that would be absolutely but I'm with him. So I
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: think that based on what you saw, like if Vederian
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Lowe and Trade Jacobs have to play, that's not good,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: that's not good.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: But does the book necessarily completely written on Trade Jacobs?
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: I would say that. I mean, am I going to
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: say that he can't improve at all. No, of course not.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: He could improve some, but that's not good enough. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: don't think you make that kind of a meteoric rise
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: from what we saw last year too. He's a serviceable
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: right tackle of the future that to me would be
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: an astronomical turnaround.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I hate judging these guys from last year because they
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: were all like, it was just all bad.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Why can't an individual play well?
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: He was also cut by another team and picked up
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: by the Patriots in season.
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: All right, So I'm not trying to pick on him.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, I want to caution against that too.
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Like, I'm not trying to pick on Trey Jacobs individually,
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: but to Paul's point, as a whole, you hope that
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: the guys you brought in this year are better.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Than the guys And I certainly hear you about the center.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: If Wilson could come in and earn that spot, that's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a good thing.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: And that's another part of it is Morgan Moses is
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: a by all accounts a solid right tackle in the NFL.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Bradbury last year was considered one of the worst centers
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: in the NFL. Okay, So if Jared talk about that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: So if Jared Wilson comes in as a rookie who's
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: never played yet and is better than that, I'm okay
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: with that. I think that's a positive development.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong about Bradbury. Last year there
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: was one category of the stats against in passing situations
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: where he graded like one of the worst.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I mean he was something like sixty four centers something
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: like that in that category. No, no, No, overall is great.
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: Well, obviously the passing blocking grades more emphasis right run blocking.
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: He's an athletic center, but he's undersized. He's undersized and
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: a play strength and size in general.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: How well has he been in the league six seven
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: years and he's been a starter for most of those.
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and he's an early draft thing.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: He's a very and he could be done maybe. Okay,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: there's a reason why they wanted to move on from him,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: and they targeted a center to replace him. Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean he just can He can be targeted.
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: You know, if you have a really good interior pass rusher,
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: then a lot of teams will target him, you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: by putting them straight up over the center.
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: But I feel bad about making fun of trade Jacob.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not trying. I want to caution against that too.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not like there's always outliers and things. He can
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: start off at a spot and then improve to the
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: point where Mike could be right and say like, well
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: that's a really positive elopment, Like you didn't expect this
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: kind of improvement now all of a sudden, he's he's
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: like tom Ashworth or you know some guy who really
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: started at at a low level and really got good
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: to the point where he was more than adequate. As
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: that could happen. So I agree with that, but I
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: don't want I don't want to big, but based on
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: what I saw last year, I don't want Vederian Low
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: and Trade Jacobs having to start at tackling like those.
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: Those two just whatever metric you want to use, they
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: graded out as to the worst starting tackles in football
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: last year. And you bring in Will Campbell, I'd say
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: the same thing about Will Campbell against Vederian Low, like
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: Will Campbell definitely should beat out Vaderian Low, like that
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: shouldn't even be a question, right, And I'd say the
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: same thing with Moses and Trey Jacobs.
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: But I'm not like worried about Moses at all.
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: I think, you know, he's on a pitch count maybe
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: a little bit here early as a veteran that had
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: a knee injury last year, and they're sort of easing
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: him back into things, and he's maybe a little bit
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: rusty as a result because he hasn't had the reps yet.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will state that emphatically, Mike, because I
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: know that you did get hit with something today and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying Mike was on the Sports on the story. No,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: he did Mike Sports this morning. The first thing out
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: of the shoot was like, to short Morgan, Moses is
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: being replaced for performance and so I don't that. I
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: think that's redict I heard it too, Okay, So I
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: don't think that's what happens. I agree with Evan. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: agree with Mike. I think there does clearly have some
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: things that they want to do and they're rotating.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: God where did they get that from?
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Somebody must struggled.
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: Yesterday didn't have a good practice and he.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Didn't practice well. Harold Langy was running around him yesterday,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: but today there was nobody really running around him, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: yet he's still rotated out. Yeah, so I don't think
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: it was a performance thing. I think that's a big
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: leap to say that he was yanked for performance.
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: I think one of the things that listening to Moses
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: today and then actually Stefan Diggs yesterday, that stands.
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: Out to me.
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: But with two guys that are proven veterans in this
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: league that don't have to build confidence and don't have
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: to like come out of the game like they the
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: way that they've talked about like the marathon that this
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: is and not the sprint, And like Stefan Diggs yesterday
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: was like it's day one, like like two cares like
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: we went out there and we put the work in.
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: You know, you guys are gonna do it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: You do.
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: But in terms of reporters, but like you know, he
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: said that that was his message to all the younger
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: guys in the wide receiver room is like this is
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: this is the first day. Like let's not like if
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: people were asking him questions like what's his chemistry like
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: with Drake May and he's like, it's day one, you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: like ask me in a month. And I feel like
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: with these guys like Moses and Diggs, they just have
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: a comfort level in a confidence already in the league
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: that they don't need to come out, you know, like
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: a rookie or a second year player, and be like
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: I'm the man, right like they already know they're the man,
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: so just give it some time.
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: I think part of this for me, I would relate
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: it to my to my Jalen Polk take, which didn't
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: doesn't taken a great turn the first two days. But
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: I guess I'm still reserving some optimism for guys who
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: weren't that great last year because of a new coaching
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: staff and a new system. And I haven't closed the
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: door on guys that had bad seasons last year. I'm
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: still going to allow them to miss the first two
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: two days of practice like not a great sign not
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: you know, I might have to walk that back. But
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: at the same time, I still think that's some of
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: these guys could blossom. And that's where I live with
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: my analysis. I'm not, you know, and I think that's
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: more than fair.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Mike, and I would say, like I was in your
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: shoes yesterday during our live show and during practice about
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Kyle Dugger, and I you know, I think everybody is
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: completely given up on Kyle Dugger. And that's okay, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I remember just a couple of years ago where he
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: was making a lot of plays. I think with a
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: better coaching staff and a better scheme, maybe he goes
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: back to that. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe you know, maybe
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: he's banged up a little bit, maybe he doesn't quite
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: have the mobility and athleticism that he had coming out,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: and you know, maybe he's done.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Hou I think next guy up in these early practices.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I know it's early, but it does mean something. You know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: who is the next guy to come in after you
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: know the supposed ones and the fact that you know
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: whoever it is, it's like, Okay, they're giving him some
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: reps early, which we've always seen through history.
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: That's a sign.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So they start to get more as the thing
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: goes on.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, I get what Evan's getting at that. It's
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: just he's the guy. He's the next guy up right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: Now, would it?
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess Vedarian lowskn Is probably stay on
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: the left side anyway.
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: But you know, we've seen some flipping. Even with Marcus Bryant.
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: He played a little left tackle, a little right tackle.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: They're filling him out as well.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I'll give you that one. You know, if Marcus Bryant
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: because he hasn't he Roou. I would feel that's that's
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: that's very nipp.
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: We're on the same page in terms of like Kyle Duggart,
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: Jabrielle Peppers, Rmandra Stevenson, even Mike on Wentho, like those
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: guys that had quote unquote down years last year. I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: willing to bet that they're closer to the players that
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: they have seen them, right, Yeah, you.
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: Know, I think that's just all it is.
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: But it's a it's interesting to with that is you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: they brought a lot of those guys back and it
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: didn't work out last year.
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: Paul was right, at least for one season. Let's see
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: what happens though.
• 36:03
  Speaker 10: You know, if those guys all play to their contracts
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: this year, then we kind of have our answer about
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: what last year was all about.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: But overall, I would say I'm with Mike in terms
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: of the optimism with the coaching and the changes in
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: the schemes and just a better just have a comfort
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: level that I didn't have last year. I didn't have
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the faith last year, and I do have some faith.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Now what that means. Does that mean they're gonna win
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: twelve games? Like some people are predicting. I don't think so,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: but I do think that they will be better and
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I think that they're going to without question be more
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: well coached.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: I just have to say, generally speaking, the way the
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: offense has just looked, and I know there have been
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: some issues, but it's encouraging to me. I've seen a
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: lot of bad offensive football and training camp over the
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: last few years, and for the first few days where
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: Drake's starting his comfort within the offense, I just I
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: think it's a really positive start for these guys seeming
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: pretty active. You know, you mentioned Kyle Williams had a
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: drop pass, had to drop punt catch as well. But
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of positive coming out of
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: these first couple of day, especially for Drake, for Josh
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: and look, that's what we talk about all the time.
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: They have to be able to put points on the
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: board two days in.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: What does it mean. We'll see. But as much as
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: you can ask for, it's not.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: You know, there are a couple of mistakes today and
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: you know we talked about the dropped the drop snap.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: But still I think that there's a lot of really good.
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: Things happening on that I think the only nitpick that
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: I would have on the offense so far as it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: a lot of short stuff, sure, and it's a lot
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: of underneath. It's a lot of quick game, and that's
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: Josh McDaniels like, some of that's going to be the
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: system and it's going to be a lot of short,
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: intermediate throws. I saw Mike Grease, you know, tweeted out
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: something that I hadn't really thought of it as some spin
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: because you know, it's Mike Resea. He said that, you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: maybe that's a way to turn down the turnovers for
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: Drake may right, like you're finding efficient completions, Yeah, then
• 37:48
  Speaker 10: you're not you know, necessarily putting the ball in Harm's way.
• 37:51
  Speaker 10: But I just thought that there were times where he
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: was looking downfield and he wanted to let it go
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: down the field today and there just wasn't really much
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: going on to get the ball to push it down
• 38:01
  Speaker 10: the field. He also had a couple of those checkdowns
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: at Paul Hates where he's like kind of like, you know, yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: One of them got knocked down by Jeremiah Farms. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and I know, we don't notice what I'm talking about
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: with that. Then he throws it at a different velocity.
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: I don't mind it when he's like if he's running
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: and he's trying to pull the defense with him and
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: then he kind of just fils it. Yeah, that's different.
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: But when he does it, it's kind of just like
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: an afterthought. It's just like, no one's open downfield, I'm
• 38:27
  Speaker 10: just going to check it down. I actually think Rabel
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: might have might have coached him up on it after
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: the last two.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: So that was one thing he said yesterday that I
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: really got excited about was they asked him what some
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: of the things he's working on, and kind of what
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Evan's talking about is one of the things he's working
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: on sort of remaining a passer as a on scrambles
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: when he gets out of the pocket. That's kind of,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: to use Evans's term, his superpower. He has the ability
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: to make big plays by sort of you know, like
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: the phrase like quarterbacks sometimes throw a receiver open. Well,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: he can scramble a receiver open. He did it a
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: few times, but you got to keep You remember the
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: one to Hunter Henry that you had like you just
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: kind of ran around. He dumped it to him for
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: like a thirty yard like nobody anywhere near.
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: Unfortunately it was in a blow up, but the one in.
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: Miami was, oh, yeah, that was He's the one I've
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: been right and waiting since May to see the pun
• 39:17
  Speaker 10: intended to see him do and unfortunately it just came
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: in a game where they were getting smoked.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: So that was one of the things he's like sort
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: of consciously, and I do think that's a raabel.
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: And maybe that's where the big plays come from impact.
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: Like, I don't know if they have the weapons on
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: the outside to make big plays organically within the offices,
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: so the big plays might have to come from Drake,
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: you know, him scrambling him uh, you know, in playground
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: mode and creating out of the pocket.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: The phrase that that kept popping in my mind was
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: something that they actually had enforced to just take the
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: profit drake, you know, And that was something that Josh
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: McDaniel said.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: And that's how it felt today.
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: I don't know how much how managed it was, because
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: it felt intentional and not oh, just take what's there.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: It seemed kind of this is what they were working on.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: But I think it's a good sign.
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: You're seeing some the coaches are talking about and then
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: today efficient getting the ball out.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: I will say I would like to see and everything
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: offensively I think has been largely positive so far. You know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: a couple of days in shorts and whatnot. This is
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: what's supposed to happen. But it is a couple of
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: fall starts here and there. You know, we mentioned the
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: fumbled snap. I like to clean up some of that stuff.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: Looks like this. Some they try to do. I thought
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: some some tempo today a little bit at times, you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: you know, completing a play and quickly getting another playoff,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: and they looked like there was some confusion as to
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: where guys were lining up. But overall, I would say
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: that what Mike said at the start of this segment
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: is accurate. We've seen some bad offense in training camp.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: That's only two days. I haven't seen really bad offense
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: in training camp yet. Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Bad football, not no bad you know, not the belief
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: that will get you beat.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Right. How's the kicker looking?
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: There was some question on a couple of the last
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: little today.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the wind affected both. I think they
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: both missed their last attempts, but it was kind of
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: hard to tell. We were far away. Could you tell that, No,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: they didn't have anybody underneath. Plus you don't care. They
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: always like it's like you should have seen how it was.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I need to get somebody get this right now.
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: Anybody get that it's pulling the whole.
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: During the spring, they would like run to get underneath
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: the goalposts.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I think they were both three for four today, but
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: their first kill the trajectory the launch already has.
• 41:30
  Speaker 11: So I will today.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I will say this because you know me, I have
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: to find something that I'm not not happy with. A couple.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: I think they both attempted four field goals. Two of
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Borer Galliss didn't look right. One of them he made
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: it was the but it was it was the seven
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: ball was rotating sideways things.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: That's not good knuckle knuckler.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: And it was two of them, two out of his flour.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: The operation.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: The operation is something to keep an eye on you.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: You get a rookie long snapper, and you.
• 41:59
  Speaker 11: Know that's like a sneaky thing to me that no
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: one cares about it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: I just thought I was like really good at his
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: job for like almost a decade, and then they moved
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: on from him and drafted a rookie long snapper. And
• 42:12
  Speaker 10: it will happen once like you know that it will matter,
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: because it's not like it's going to be like a
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: whole train wreck.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: If you're right. They had they had a veteran long
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: snapper for years and years, and Lonnie Paxton who you
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: never had to worry about, and then when they moved
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: on from him, they drafted Jake Ingram and it was
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: an issue. He wasn't great, he didn't last.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Cycling through guys like Tucker Addington was one of them.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: I things was one of the names there.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler writes in at podcasts at pages dot com.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: He says, first of all, congratulations to Evan on his marriage.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I'm writing in to take an early victory lap on
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: an email I sent this spring. I wrote in asking
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: about thoughts on drafting or signing a UDFA full back
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: and specifically mentioned brock Lampy because he was from Miama
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: made northern Illinois. Evan scoffed at the idea of discussing
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: a fullback because he preferred getting another email asking if
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Will Campbell's arms were long enough or if any wide
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: receiver one get fall back me?
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Can I step in before you finish reading that? Sure,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that I scoffed. Hen Heavin thinks
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: that McDaniels' offense, in that offense, you need a full back,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: and he's fully expecting a fullback to be on the roster.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that I scoffed at that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: All right, He says. It looks like Lampi is in
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the driver's seat of getting the full back job, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to having a husky on the team finally. Well,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: we'll see, but.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I might pump the brakes a little bit.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I want to see who. I want to see who
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: gets cut. I want to see who gets cut. I'm
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: not going to lose my mind over it now, but
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: I want to see who gave they cut a good
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: player to keep a fullback.
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to be there was there was one
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: play today where they the formation. I'll just say I
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: was very excited. I was like, this, this is exact
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: and it's funny because power I right, it was. It
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: was empty, it was it was a passing formation, but
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: you know they kind of inverted the formation and uh,
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: and I knew, you know, I saw that it was Jane.
• 44:12
  Speaker 10: I want to say, I don't know if I should
• 44:14
  Speaker 10: and then like you know it just it was great.
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: It reminded me of of good times of you know,
• 44:20
  Speaker 10: like Brady, he would see it right like when you
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: would put the full back or the running backs out wide,
• 44:25
  Speaker 10: those are coverage indicators like do they follow them with
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: a linebacker or do they stick the corners outside still?
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: And when the corners stay outside, you usually know it's
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: zone because the corners wouldn't normally cover the full back.
• 44:36
  Speaker 10: So like when you do that, you can kind of
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: give an indicator H to the quarterback of what the
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: coverage is. And Drake May saw it right away, saw
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: that the corner stayed out there, knew it was zoned,
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: took the profit.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, Josh is back.
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: That's it.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: A couple of couple of other dead lines for me.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: I know, you guys might have talked about no Carlton
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Davis today.
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: After peak peak, we haven't talked about it yet back
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: and uh, you know, it seemed like bar More still
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: on a little bit of account himself, which, as we said.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Across the Rocks, you did talk about boss.
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: Teams like that. But a little disappointing that. I mean,
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: I know we're like, well, did he call h Davis?
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: Failed the conditioning test or what like. I don't know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: maybe there's something else going on, but it's just disappointing.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: I just went there just the quick clarification. He opened
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: on NFI and that's why I sort of wonder why
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: he opened on NFI.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: Because he wasn't NFI.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: It wasn't ied earlier in the spring, right right, and
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: then he could be sick. Yeah, Barmore could be as sick,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: as simple as that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Barmore was off on the on the side field
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: at one point. Was it looked like with the trainers, Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 10: going like trying to test whatever was going on with him.
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: So Jeremiah Farm saw a lot more time today as
• 45:41
  Speaker 10: a result. But you know, that's definitely no worthy with Barmore.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Yep, something to monitor. Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina saw
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a video where Bertrand and Zoe When of Paul Shows
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: were watching practice on the first day, and Bertrand made
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: it seem like Kyle Williams needed a red jacket already,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Like I'm excited for the kid, but can we get
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: him on the field in a game before we start
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: giving out jackets. I appreciate your analysis. That is realistic,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: honest and not overinflating the good and really digging into
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: the bad. Truly the best show covering Patriots.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Well thanks for the compliments, but sarcasm is obviously lost
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: on people because I heard the clip with it's Beetle
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: and Zoe and it sounds more like Beatle to me,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: they were over the top negative, first on the offensive
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: line on purpose, like oh my god, this is a disaster,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: and then like hi will we got a receiver, like
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: they were like screaming me the one of them were
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: meant to be taken.
• 46:35
  Speaker 10: Kind of like the he made two catches yesterday. Everybody
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: made a big deal about the one on Gonzo because
• 46:40
  Speaker 10: it's Christian Zales in the all pro corner that he's
• 46:43
  Speaker 10: making to play on. I actually liked the other one
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: better because the other one, to me, was showing that
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: juice and that explosiveness after the catch with the ball
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: in his hands that I'm hoping that he's going to
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: bring to the offense.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I'm not really step with Evan Lazarre. I don't know
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: if I've ever done that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: I'm not really like expecting him to go out there
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: in an NFL game and start boxing out corners like
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: that's just not he's a five to eighty five pounds
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: speed receiver, Like I just don't think that that's his game.
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: But he came across the shallow part of the field
• 47:12
  Speaker 10: on the little drag route and Robert Splaine was on
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: his horse and he was and Robert Splain could not
• 47:16
  Speaker 10: get him. He ran yeah, and I was like, all right,
• 47:19
  Speaker 10: that's that's the juice.
• 47:21
  Speaker 11: You know, that's what you're hoping he's going to bring.
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: I mean, I wonder is he going to start to
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: push kaisham BOUTI at that X spot and can he
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: bring that element Evan mentioned earlier in the show of
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: explosiveness and downfield threat that clearly dangerous with the ball
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: in his hands.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: But just also like just seeing how Diggs looks like Diggs.
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's no, it doesn't at all. I mean
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: I think they were manage him a little bit.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: He had some reps where he came out, but even still,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I think he just looks ready to go.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: And it's fun. It's fun having a good receiver. Everyone
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: can make fun of me for that one for sure,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: but I'm.
• 47:52
  Speaker 11: Trying not to get too excited because he looks awesome.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean it's early. I mean a couple
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: of catches today. Well it was what he had a
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: couple there in the first series.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: But still he's just that's what he is, that precision
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: route running and you know, up and smooth.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Eight five five past five hundred is the hot line.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Nate in Connecticut. What's up? Nate? Nate
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: three two one, Nate is gone? The call back if
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: you want Camp Christian in LA. What's going on?
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys know what's going on. First of all, Paul,
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: thank you guys for having on show. How the heck
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: can I try?
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Left?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I literally, your phone's breaking up?
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately I was if you guys could understand, did.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: You understand what he's saying? Not the word man me? No,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: your phone's breaking up? Call back? Sorry about that. Randy's
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: in Providence.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: When you're had a little more money, you can afford
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: a better plan. All right, how's it going good?
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: You've got a good connection. Thank you, Randy?
• 49:06
  Speaker 12: Okay, good, glad to be here.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think a lot about the concept of Drake
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: may kind of break.
• 49:14
  Speaker 13: Out you or what his advancement might look like.
• 49:18
  Speaker 12: And I think that it wouldn't be.
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: Like a statistical production thing where you like, you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: put a fourth out the yards or whatever like that.
• 49:27
  Speaker 13: I think it's more of a.
• 49:31
  Speaker 12: Learning to that too.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Some issues.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're breaking up too, I don't know. Are you
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: on a speakerphone?
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: No, now you're at the bottom of a well.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're kind of like a little bit underwater.
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: I got it. Like you're saying that, it does.
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: Like Drake May's breakout might not necessarily manifest itself in
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: statistics of fantasy football stuff, but it might be more of, like,
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: you know, the intangible things, consistency, cluge, leadership, Yeah, you know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: actually winning games.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Nate's calling back, what's up? Nate?
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Yah?
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: Perfect?
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: All right?
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: So if I disconnected earlier, if that was my fault,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I accidentally hung up. But my fustion for you guys
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: is what have you seen out of Milton Williams so far?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people say he was only
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: good in Philly because of the monster D line that
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: they had, But I feel like that's not true. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: feel like he's a really good player. But what have
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: you seen out of parents during training camp? If he
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: has advertised or is he just another guy on the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: D line?
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's so hard to tell at this point, Nate.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: You know, like especially with an interior guy, they're not
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: going full speed, they don't have pads on, so to understand,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: like how what his strengths would be at this point,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: it's hard to know. And then the knock on him.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: It was yes, like said he was surrounded by such
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: a great line with all that depth. He wasn't out
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: there all the time.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I noticed him.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: We'll see part time player and surrounded by mental talent.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree with Fred. I can't tell you
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: what his strengths are right now because we haven't seen
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: him really play.
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: I mean, I'll tell you what I like most about
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: him so far is how Mike Rabel said. He's the
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: consummate professional and is here all the time, and he
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: seems like a serious football guy. Seems like he's not
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: a guy who got paid and now is just gonna coast.
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: He seems every bit as intense as he was. You
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: know when he played for Philly. I noticed him more yesterday.
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: I felt the ball was coming out a little quicker
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: today with short stuff, so it wasn't as much chance.
• 51:38
  Speaker 11: I mean, it's sometimes just.
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: Random of these practice like guys, catch your eye here
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: and there and something might catch you guys eye that
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: didn't catch my eye, which doesn't mean it's not true.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: But there's just you know, there's there's so much to
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: watch it once. That's what makes football fun.
• 51:49
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  Speaker 6: What's going on really doing?
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah? That was good.
• 54:13
  Speaker 16: We all think some coming out here. You know, we're
• 54:15
  Speaker 16: kind of the stuff that we kind of major in
• 54:17
  Speaker 16: in the spring, stuff that we know, so stuff to
• 54:19
  Speaker 16: clean up. I think, you know, pre snap, you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 16: communication cadence, trying to kind of use that to our vantage.
• 54:25
  Speaker 16: But I thought we made some place, makes some plays
• 54:27
  Speaker 16: down the field. Top of the guys at front fought.
• 54:29
  Speaker 16: It's hard to block without pads, but I thought they
• 54:30
  Speaker 16: did a good job. And I think just you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 16: coming out and out of each every day and just
• 54:33
  Speaker 16: try to build on it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: A long session in Charlotte. How did that come to be?
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: And yeah, Born was that for you to establish yourself
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: as I.
• 54:40
  Speaker 16: Think it's something that you know, you missed those guys
• 54:42
  Speaker 16: for a month and you know you just want to
• 54:43
  Speaker 16: get back at a refresher form, whether it's route wise,
• 54:45
  Speaker 16: play wise. I think the most supportant thing is just
• 54:48
  Speaker 16: bonding together. I think getting the guys together, go out
• 54:51
  Speaker 16: to eat, having some fun, get some work in. And
• 54:53
  Speaker 16: I think it was glad that those guys you know,
• 54:54
  Speaker 16: came out and showed up.
• 54:55
  Speaker 11: It was really reacted. Your first completion and stuff was that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's good to have them out there. I mean
• 55:01
  Speaker 16: it's a good player made a lot of players in
• 55:03
  Speaker 16: this league. You know, thanks the fans out here for
• 55:05
  Speaker 16: showing up. You know, I wish I could, you know,
• 55:07
  Speaker 16: sign everybody. I think that's what's what makes the league go.
• 55:09
  Speaker 16: These fans, you know, coming out here and coming out
• 55:11
  Speaker 16: here on whatever day it is Wednesday, we're in camp now,
• 55:13
  Speaker 16: who knows the days, but coming out here and you know,
• 55:16
  Speaker 16: supporting us and you know, being here for us in
• 55:18
  Speaker 16: the hot and the heat, and I think I still
• 55:19
  Speaker 16: makes it go.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: So it's fun to be out here and make a
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: place you.
• 55:21
  Speaker 11: Can catch you by surprise, you throw this little pass
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: and all of a sudden they react.
• 55:26
  Speaker 16: No, it's one of those things you figure, just like
• 55:28
  Speaker 16: the first catch in the game. I'm sure you know,
• 55:30
  Speaker 16: a home game and we get a big, big role.
• 55:32
  Speaker 16: I think that's what you want. You want guys that
• 55:34
  Speaker 16: you know, the fans like that they want and I think,
• 55:36
  Speaker 16: you know, there's a lot of rules for a lot
• 55:37
  Speaker 16: of different players around here.
• 55:38
  Speaker 11: There's so much talk about you taking that jump in
• 55:40
  Speaker 11: leadership in here too. How much is that Mike in
• 55:42
  Speaker 11: your ear encouraging it versus just kind of letting you
• 55:45
  Speaker 11: naturally get to that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: He's a little bit of both.
• 55:47
  Speaker 16: I think he does a great job of kind of
• 55:49
  Speaker 16: giving me, you know, kind of points where I can
• 55:51
  Speaker 16: improve or points where hey, maybe do this. I think
• 55:53
  Speaker 16: he's also krying of let me go and kind of
• 55:54
  Speaker 16: see where I'm at. And I think it's kind of
• 55:56
  Speaker 16: a challenge for me to kind of leave this football
• 55:58
  Speaker 16: team and leave this offense.
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: Your second training.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Camp, how much more confident are you than you first?
• 56:03
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a lot different kind of coming here, know
• 56:05
  Speaker 16: to expect. So I was telling the rookies earlier, you
• 56:07
  Speaker 16: know it's gonna be a kind of whirlwind. You're kind
• 56:09
  Speaker 16: of scrambling from period to period and next thing you know,
• 56:11
  Speaker 16: you you're up against the defense and some full speed plays.
• 56:15
  Speaker 16: So I think just take your time and enjoy it.
• 56:17
  Speaker 16: You'll take the time to watch the film, and I
• 56:19
  Speaker 16: think more than not just have fun. I mean, you
• 56:21
  Speaker 16: know the plays, just don't overthink it, and I think
• 56:22
  Speaker 16: just playing instinct. How close do you feel you are
• 56:27
  Speaker 16: to kind of mastering the system that you think? Yeah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 16: and it takes a while, I think to master something
• 56:31
  Speaker 16: at the level that some of you guys played that.
• 56:34
  Speaker 16: So I think I got a long way to go.
• 56:35
  Speaker 16: But I think I'm like where I'm at, got some
• 56:38
  Speaker 16: most stuff to improve on. I think it all comes,
• 56:40
  Speaker 16: you know, facing defenses. I think you can master it.
• 56:42
  Speaker 16: You know, hey, what are these guys gonna do on
• 56:43
  Speaker 16: the route? I think there's a different kind of level
• 56:45
  Speaker 16: when you're facing different hey versus coverage, whatere you're gonna do.
• 56:47
  Speaker 16: But I think there's a different level too of that.
• 56:49
  Speaker 16: I think that we're kind of you don't need to
• 56:50
  Speaker 16: tap into based stuff. I feel good. I mean I
• 56:54
  Speaker 16: think I think it's more of a judge of how
• 56:57
  Speaker 16: how I play today. So I think we can move
• 56:59
  Speaker 16: the ball well if through one kind of one ball,
• 57:03
  Speaker 16: which I'll have back. But they play a good cover
• 57:05
  Speaker 16: before we had, So I think it's just one of
• 57:07
  Speaker 16: those things that you learned from it and trying to
• 57:09
  Speaker 16: let those defensive guys give me. Yeah, Kyle, I know
• 57:14
  Speaker 16: he's backside. One on one with Gonzo, he made a
• 57:16
  Speaker 16: big time catch, you know, strong hands. I told him
• 57:18
  Speaker 16: to maybe sell a little more, just try to you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 16: give him a go route feel. But I think he's
• 57:23
  Speaker 16: he's uh, he's coming along. He's looking good. I told Gonz,
• 57:27
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna coming Gonz. I'm not gonna, you know, backside,
• 57:29
  Speaker 16: I'm not gonna, you know, leave him out here board
• 57:30
  Speaker 16: at practice. So good for you know, rooking to make
• 57:33
  Speaker 16: a play like that, and uh, I think it's just
• 57:34
  Speaker 16: gonna get better and better.
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: Tra what's your level of excitement coming into the year
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: two now and and with Rabel and with the vibe
• 57:40
  Speaker 8: around here.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: I think it's awesome.
• 57:42
  Speaker 16: I think coming out here and kind of a reset
• 57:45
  Speaker 16: and you know, everybody you know feels good coming into camp.
• 57:47
  Speaker 16: I think it's kind of you get a tester and
• 57:49
  Speaker 16: get a feel when you come up these practices and uh,
• 57:51
  Speaker 16: these joint practices, you get a real field where you're at.
• 57:53
  Speaker 16: So I'm excited for you know, where this team's going.
• 57:55
  Speaker 16: I think we've got some more work to do, get
• 57:56
  Speaker 16: in shape. Kind of small details offensively, I like kind
• 58:01
  Speaker 16: of you know, day one where we're at and I
• 58:02
  Speaker 16: think we got some some more work to do.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: What about work here with Stefan Date? Is that exciting
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: for you?
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 58:07
  Speaker 16: Anytime you know an All Pro and a player like that,
• 58:10
  Speaker 16: he made some plays out here today, It's it's awesome
• 58:12
  Speaker 16: being able to you'll throw the guy like that and
• 58:15
  Speaker 16: even when you feel like he's not open, he's gonna
• 58:16
  Speaker 16: go make a play for you. And uh kind of
• 58:18
  Speaker 16: tight coverage, you know, he's you'll, you know, strong receiver
• 58:20
  Speaker 16: gonna make plays. And I think it's Uh, we've got
• 58:23
  Speaker 16: a bunch of those guys in the room that a
• 58:24
  Speaker 16: kind of kind of earned their role and find their role.
• 58:26
  Speaker 16: Do you have some trust already sort of established with
• 58:29
  Speaker 16: Diggs just based on what he's done in his career?
• 58:31
  Speaker 12: Take?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Or is there so a long way to go there?
• 58:33
  Speaker 16: I think there's certain players that you have trust right
• 58:36
  Speaker 16: when they come in. You know, Garrett Bradberry and Big
• 58:38
  Speaker 16: Mo up front, you know guys like that that have
• 58:39
  Speaker 16: been in this league. And you'll play a bunch of starts, uh,
• 58:42
  Speaker 16: Matt Collins, Hunter, Henry, those guys you know you trust
• 58:45
  Speaker 16: like trust is basically is me kind of earning my
• 58:48
  Speaker 16: trust for them.
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: Is really sorry, sorry, right.
• 58:51
  Speaker 16: Sorry, it's me really kind of uh kind of earning
• 58:54
  Speaker 16: their trust and kind of me kind of making him
• 58:56
  Speaker 16: feel like, yeah, they can you'll trust that guy back there.
• 58:59
  Speaker 16: I think those guys aread, haven't, you know, built in
• 59:00
  Speaker 16: with what they've done in this league.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: Your second year, how much PE will help you?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Knowing what joint practices are about.
• 59:06
  Speaker 16: Yeah, the preseason games about help you get what you
• 59:09
  Speaker 16: I think, I think it's a huge help.
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  Speaker 6: That's what the biggest thing is.
• 59:12
  Speaker 16: You know, they say your rookie year is just you know,
• 59:14
  Speaker 16: one like you know after your rookie year year, just
• 59:16
  Speaker 16: like all the rest of the guys veteran. Why so
• 59:19
  Speaker 16: the rookie year is different. You don't really know what
• 59:20
  Speaker 16: to expect. You're coming out here, and I remember the
• 59:23
  Speaker 16: Eagles came out here and they I was in drill
• 59:25
  Speaker 16: and shoot a Mike Blitz came and I was under
• 59:29
  Speaker 16: gunn or I was under center and he basically was unblocked.
• 59:32
  Speaker 16: So little things like that that you kind of learned
• 59:34
  Speaker 16: as a rookie that you know, things don't happen like that.
• 59:36
  Speaker 16: I think coming into here too, hopefully it'll be a
• 59:40
  Speaker 16: kind of bigger stride for me. Kind of take the
• 59:42
  Speaker 16: next level to playing kind of chest match of the defense,
• 59:44
  Speaker 16: and then uh, we have some good teams coming here
• 59:46
  Speaker 16: that we're playing joy practicing, and we're going you were
• 59:48
  Speaker 16: coming here against Washington and we're going up to Minnesota's
• 59:50
  Speaker 16: two good defenses and two playoff teams.
• 59:52
  Speaker 17: So how much how much of a leadership role do
• 59:56
  Speaker 17: you see yourself taking this year in the year or two,
• 59:58
  Speaker 17: are you comfortable stepping up and being more more of
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 17: a leader, not just with the offense, but with the
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 17: team as a whole.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 16: I think, you know, I'm trying to be I think
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 16: that's something you got to earn. I think somebody I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 16: come in there every day, you'll work hard, I'll play
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 16: good in practice. I think that's a big part. You'll
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 16: take practice seriously. I think the practice translations of the games.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 16: It's hard to get you know this, the simulation. It's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 16: not basketball, KINGO get shot opening three pointers. You know
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 16: you're you're There's nothing like beating in the mix of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 16: it with a lot of bullets going. So try to earn,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 16: you know, kind of earned my stripes and practice and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 16: then from there just try to go on and hopefully
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 16: win some games and nothing that will help.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: Always always working on the final questions because you're always.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: Working on stuff. What's what's new in your tree.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Blocks this year?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 16: Working on stuff? Yeah, I think, uh, just kind of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 16: remaining a pastor longer when I scrambled, I think that's big,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 16: kind of getting us out of pocket, remaining a pastor longer,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 16: hope with some big plays, scramble plays, and just making
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 16: the defense. I feel like, you know, had good times
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 16: last year, or have some guys deep that I may
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 16: have missed him or I took off a run instead,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 16: So to try to remain a pastor and uh, just
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 16: keep trying to work on footwork. I think that's the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 16: big thing. New offense, you know, new play actions, new
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 16: uh new new concepts to try to time it up
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 16: and get a good group.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 13: So you said you were excited about the prospects of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 13: this team going forward.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: What excites you lost?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 13: Is there something specific that you can point to and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 13: say this is gonna be good?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: M what excites me most?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: I liked that question.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 16: I think you've got the guys around here that are
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 16: are tired of losing around here and the guys that
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 16: want to win. I think that's what excites me most.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 16: Some guys want to win around here. I think in
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 16: the past two or three years around here and the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 16: past year from me. I want to speak for myself,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 16: but I think those guys around here there are tired
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 16: of losing want to win.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: So thank you.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: And now great moments in history.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Evan lecturing Tamara about local cuisine. Didn't he eat McDonald's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: in Germany? No, that was me.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 11: I did not eat Samara.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was actually Tamara, I, Alex and Matiza.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: I had McDonald's twice and John.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 11: Don't throw me in that. Wait did you go to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 11: five guys?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Went to podcast? But I also ahead the schnetzel.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: Wait, but I will call out. I will call out
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 11: Evan on this.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: He was too good for German coffee. He had to
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: have starbuck That's true.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: I recall that.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: I immediately texted Beth and said, oh, you'd like Evan,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: but I what Starbucks.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: I'm sure it doesn't surprise anybody that I am a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 10: food snob.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: That's food. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Surprise anybody Patrick Patrick and Ottawa thinks I'm a food snob,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: he says when Fred. When Fred speaks of food, it's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: with such snobbery.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, there's no question he nails it.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: He channels the soul of Eric.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: You tell everybody, don't get this, get this. This is
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: the better Maaker Fred.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: I feel like Fred and I are on the same wavelength.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 11: But he takes he does it a little bit more
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 11: than idea.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: He's worse than you at it. Yes, I smash one
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: before smash Burgers, the tavern Burger. That's the one.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: That's the one.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: You're wasting your time with, the whiskey River barbere. Don't
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Mayo on it.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: Don't put Mayo on it.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mayo ruin it.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: What's honestly, I don't know this. Friend's always tell me
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: not to.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: That's another great moment.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I'm all right back here on Patriots Unfiltered. It's Deuce,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's Evan, it's me, it's Matt and Nabooth.
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  Speaker 2: Join us in New Orleans. Me and Evan, Yes, we'll
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: say hello.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 11: Food New Orleans.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Good food.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: Food, Yeah, Cross What do you like?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: What do you get down there? What's the crocodile?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 10: Getes are big, but the restaurants down there are supposed
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: to be incredible.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I have to credit Eric. He took us. He took us.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: He didn't pay, but he took us to a restaurant
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: that created the bananas Foster. So like when you have
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: your dessert, they come right to the side of your
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: table and they got the fire going with the pan
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and they make it right there right next to you
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: to It was delicious. It was delicious.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: It's making me hungry.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we just had pizza time actually, because I don't
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: know if you guys ever heard of that place, but
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: they had left over pizza pizza. Who ordered pizza. It
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: was leftover from that was yesterday, giant order in the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: fridge pizza.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: I didn't took it off.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm a little bit.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: I'm a little bit thrown off because I didn't realize
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: I was sitting in a sopping wet chair.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: From actually apologized when he got up and I said,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: don't worry about it. That's seat.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: So no, but honestly, it's not Mike's fault because he
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: just came off the practice film. We appreciate that. So
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: we'll just have to make note that when we get
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: players off the press.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: I wrote it down.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, seriously, you know, like, yeah, we'll do that.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: Did you see uh, Ted Carris on Edelman's podcast The
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: towel the baby incident. This has been written before, but
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: you know Brady with centers would make them put a
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: towel in their pants because Brady didn't want the sweat drip,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: so he put the.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Spends a lot for those manicures you don't want to like, you.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 10: Know, and apparently he Ted Carris didn't know when he
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: was like a young player, rookie, and Brady did it
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: on the sideline, pulled his pants down on the sideline
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 10: and put the towel in his pants for him, right
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 10: right in the front of you know, Ted care is,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 10: like in front of sixty five thousand people.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Who was the guy though that was just notoriously bad
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: sweater like he started? It was Stork.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: It could have been Paula. There was one guy who
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: was just.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: Like one of the few bad guys. He was so true,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: made his way through the locker room. And I don't
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: know what he's like in real life, but in the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: locker room he went out of his way to be unfriendly.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: And like really now confrontations. Yeah, yeah, but I heard
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: off the field like he's coached. He's coaching football. Can
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: tell you he seems like people like him. But oh
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: he was mean to us and just out of his
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: way to be mean.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and not just it wasn't like an US thing.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: It was not for everybody, everybody.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: He must have been especially happy after everyone was blaming
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: him for tipping the signals and what the twenty was
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: it the twenty fifteen or twenty thirteen ANFC championship game
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: where they said von Miller was getting off the ball
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: in like zero point five seconds.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: Because they seem to know that the snapcount.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: You know another guy who like was mean to some
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: people but was really nice was with Ferrick Colins. Remember
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: him who it might have been before you.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Ferrick Collins was mean to me?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Oh he was mean to you. Yeah, Oh he was
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: nice to me.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: He was very mean to me.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: He was a defensive lineman.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how is he mean to you?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Told me to hall ass Well, he done that.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: It's funny because usually.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Remember him talking about Ed Duckworth.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: It just came out of his neck. That was Henry Thomas.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: No I think that was. But anyway, Ed Duckworth like
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: this old time scribe, like the old krusty guy, and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: he smokes cigarettes.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: He's the one that Doug dug Mesunshine dot com.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: All he would do was smoke cigarettes and drink coffee.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: So like his breath, he's like, damn that guy's breast,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: it stinks. It comes out of his neck. It's that's awful.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: What's funny because I always feel like offensive linemen are
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: generally like some of the most talkative, friendly, amiable players.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: In the locker room. You know Doctor Z.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: One of Doctor Z's book that he wrote, he's like,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: always go talk to the offensive lineman.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: They know what's going on.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: They're always usually happy to talk to you. But I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: guess barn Struck was the exception.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Eric in New Hampshire. Erica in New Hampshire writes in
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: New Listener, First time email. My boyfriend's been listening for
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: a while and he's a huge fan. Well, thanks, excellent.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I'm calling out Sean from Pennsylvania, So first, Godler, immediately
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: listen crime. I love it calling out Sean and Pennsylvania
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: for his too much Julian Edelman take from Tuesday's episode Respectfully, Sean,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: there actually wasn't enough Julian Edelman in episode two of
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Forge in Foxborough. They should put him more of him
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: in Actually, you can replay his catch from Super Bowl
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: fifty one for forty five minutes. For all I care
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: played all twelve season with New England, retired a Patriot,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: was inducted in the Patriots Hall of Fame. What more
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: can you ask for from the guy?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: I'm with? Sean? Yeah, to be honest with you, I'm
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: with Sean.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: Can we show like the cam Chancellor won a little
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 10: bit more like fifty one catch is awesome too, But
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: like the forty nine catches maybe just as good, and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: that he gets his bell rung by Cam Chancellor and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 10: just like hangs onto the ball and like, I feel
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 10: like that's a great catch too.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 11: It doesn't give enough flow.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 8: You could probably easily make a video Top ten Julian
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 8: Edelman third down catches in the playoffs, like.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 11: Just simply that in Kansas City.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: Just I mean there's there's easily ten of them. I
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: mean I can think like five of them right at
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: the top of them.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just think that, like we're, you know,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: the there's two ways of looking at it. We're trying
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: to do some stuff, and I understand, we get you know,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: we're listening to everybody's voice that's talking with the team.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: This is about this team. This is about twenty twenty five. Yeah,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: So I don't need to see like his catch in
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty one.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you were there.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Oh I think that was fine.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm not talking about the documentary like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: the fight back on Sean here, like yeah, like I mean,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: should we have Tom Brady on too, Like yeah, I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: want to know, I mean, at least with Brady. In fairness,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: as I'm correcting myself, he played, he played with Babel.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We've had walk We've had greatness walk
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: through this building and achieved great things. And I think
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: it's to hear their comments, and I think it's always
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: something that we shouldn't forget about. I don't know, choose
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: a draw. Let's see who's this dinner plates? He calls himself. Wow,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Mike is big.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 12: Not you.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: When the desk couldn't contain him, he made you guys
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: look like us, even the pre twenty twenty five two
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: liter before picture Paul would be a snack to him.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but he's
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: like a thoroughbrid Clydesdale.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: He's actually an NFL offensive linemans.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: He's the name big Mike.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 11: He's the biggest one.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 10: He's the widest probably, but like in terms of like,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 10: like Morgan is bigger guy.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: I put a put the other rookie on there. What's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: his name?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 8: Marcus Bryant monster six eight h yeah.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's get back to the hotline. Shawn's in Virginia. Hey, Sean,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: how you guys doing okay?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: Good good?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 12: That's one of the fall as Paul far when it
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 12: comes to the level of operism. I think that's reason
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 12: for great operaism because I think from you back there
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 12: that uh, if they can get great uh you know, uh,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 12: they at least they can have a great confident offense.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 12: I think that can a lot of defense get more
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 12: much more breath because I think the thing that goes
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 12: under the radar, the resonance the defense.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 9: Been bad over the years or whatever, because they spend
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 9: too much time on the field.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 12: At least when you're gonna have Brady had a competent
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 12: offense or whatever he was able to kill on the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: field or to off the field for some time, whatever,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 12: But they tell you in recent years they haven't ready
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 12: gotten that at top. I think that if they can
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 12: get that this year, I think that I could win
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 12: eleven for that just.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 10: Means okay, thanks sean complimentary football on all three phases
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 10: to help each other out.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Parcels used to say, it's giving each other hope. Yeah,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: you know, the defense gives the offense hope and the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: offense gives the defense hope.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: I agree, both sides need to improve on that from
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: last year. The offense needs to give it over the less,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: the defense needs to turn it over more and feed
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: into everything that Sean just said.
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  Speaker 11: Yea, and the punts. You know you got to have
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 11: the punts be good. Yeah, got field position.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Now ye have the other teams defense tired in the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter? Not yours, Sam's and San Francisco. What's up? Sam?
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 13: Thank guys. A quick question here about the running backs.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 13: I know it's hard to gauge when they're not in
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 13: pat but I really thought Antonio Gibson, I'll played Ramande
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 13: for most of the latter part of last year. I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 13: thought he really should have got more touches. But do
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 13: you think we're holding jig? We got four guys on
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 13: the on the roster, now we keep three and then
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 13: we got the rookie with subdues everyone's been talking about.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 13: But what what do you guys think.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 12: The plan is?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Think of Brandon?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: What the plan is? The plan is what I mean
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: with all the running, I'm not sure what we're talking about.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: The running. It's like six running, seven running backs of
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: something like on the.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Roster, right, I mean if you count Lampy, I.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: Would count them all. Like if we're going to say
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: they're on the roster, I mean, for some reason we
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: say that they have a crowded wide receiver room right
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: if we're going to count them all that are on
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: the roster, I know, like Terrell Jennings should count, Lan
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: Larison should count, Antonio Gibson and both Trevion's should count.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 11: There's three running backs on the roster, maybe four.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're trying to decide does does EV's
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: boy Lampy count in the group? Is that three plus
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: a fullback?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 11: He counts? With the tight end?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Does he count as three plus a full back? Or
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: does he count or does he not have a job?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: And then you have to add a tight end. There's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: a lot of different ways that you can build a roster,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: and I think it's way too early to try to.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: You know, the wide receivers get the attention. But there's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: ninety one guys in the team right now. All the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: rooms is crowded.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and every team around the league has roughly the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: same amount of players at each position group because it's
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: kind of like paint by numbers. This is what you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: do as an NFL. You have a lot of offensive linemen.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: You know, you have a lot of wide receivers. Wide
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: receivers you need because they run more than anybody else.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: During the course of a practice and you can't just
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: like grind them into the ground. It's almost like pictures
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: in baseball, like not the same guys can throw batting
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: practice every day, Like you got to have different arms,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: and you have to have receivers that are fresh, right,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: like guy John Giles still continues to show up.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: I would say that they have three running backs right
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 10: now that are pretty near locks. I mean, obviously Stevenson
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 10: and Trevon Henderson are locks, but I would also put
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 10: Antonio Gibson pretty comfortably on the roster right now. I
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 10: think big picture of the plan is to have Stevenson
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 10: and Henderson be like this lightning, thunder and lightning combination.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 10: They're very complimentary but gives them to the caller's point
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 10: that you had a very productive season on a per
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 10: carry basis last year, and all the advanced metrics loved
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 10: Antonio Gibson last year.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 11: You yards after content didn't.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: Play well at times. See that's an example, like you know,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: individually you can still play well even when you're in
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: the midst of a bad season. I thought Gibson played
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: better than Stevenson right just the caller said me too.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's a great room right now.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: The balance that you have with the rookie with a veteran,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: with Stevenson being hopefully the guy that.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: Kind of be the bell cow back, it's good. It's
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: a really good mix.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: And we'll see if any of these other guys, I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: mean Landlairs can he land on the practice squatter?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: You know, we'd like Terrell Jennings last year. He's still
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: around kicking.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 10: So yeah, Land Harrison is the one, like the one
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 10: guy that I think is a wild card in terms
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 10: of you know, he had but he has to make
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 10: the roster, like they don't have to carry four running backs.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: So if he's going to make the roster, it's going
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: to be because he's so good that they can't kind
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 10: of tear.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: It up in the preseason.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Right all right, Christian in La, what do you got? Well,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: what I have is there? We go.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 9: Thank you guy for having me on the picture show
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 9: there the day. But I wanted to like my ire
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 9: at Paul for saying I tried too hard. You guys
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 9: had a guy with a cello, a guy Paul with
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: a dog. Then you had a guy in a firement
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 9: outfit and I'm sitting in my cars he's looking at
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: the camera taking a selfie and Paul did I tried too.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: Hard, Christian, you have a great jawline.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: I was impressed by the John.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think anybody else had a studio quality
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: photo sent in like you.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 12: I went to the car taking a selfie.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: Put together your outfit for you.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 12: It was a Lulu.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 9: Crying too hard and there we have it, drinking the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 9: hater and I think you have IP in it, and
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 9: you probably have a shot of something in it. Off
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: of football, yes, sir, let's you guys. Dog of you guys.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 9: So yesterday, I've read at the end that we had
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 9: four of the fifty fifty most important off season move
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: the cornerback Carlton, David Milton, that we got Stefan Diggs
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 9: and then Kyle Williams. They listed those for the most important.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: For the fourth and fiftieth four of the fifty most
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: important off season move, we had four Patriots on it.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 9: That kind of says what the league is expecting of.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: Us, right, not real.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: We could also say that we had more needs than
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of other teams.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: That's what it says to me.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I would I would as the most
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: important offseason.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 11: I mean, this is just like personnel roster, yeah, per
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 11: no players.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was just players.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 9: My second question for you guys is this on Will Campbell,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: it seems like what it seemed like he would want
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 9: to be closer to his defender since he has like
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: a sort of short arm prop and that would show
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 9: up if there's more state between them, right, guys can
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: get around, So shouldn't he line up close to the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 9: line in general?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that, but typically speaking,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: I just thought he was a little bit further back
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: than he should have been. But again it could be
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: an angle thing. Thanks Christian.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, typically speaking, guys that are a little bit undersize
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 10: are more aggressive. You know, they want to they want
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 10: to go get you instead of waiting for you to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: come back. If you're Trent Brown, you can sit back
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: in your chair and wait and just you know, make
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: guys go through you. But when you're a guy like
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 10: Will Campbell, you want to be more aggressive and be
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: the one initiating the contact exactly.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 11: So he's right about.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 10: That, but often, you know, I was expecting Will Campbell
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 10: to have some things going on with his stance because
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 10: his stance in college was a little unorthodox. He never
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 10: really was in a three point stance because they were
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 10: a gun offense and they never really had a need
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 10: for three point stance. So there's some things in a
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: pro style system that might be a little bit different
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: for him.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: I came across on Instagram some high school highlights of
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: Will Campbell. It's just like a camp where he was
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: doing drills, no pads, no helmet anything, just you've all
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: seen those drills and man throwing guys to the ground,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: standing in guys faces. I mean, he was not intimidated
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: in the least by anybody. And I know it's high
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: school and now he's in the NFL, so clearly he
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 8: was an elite talent at that level. But it's just
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: fun to see little Will Campbell, you know, as a youngster,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: still playing with that same attitude that we saw out
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: of him at LSU.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So if there was if the question was asked,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: what's the one thing that's a you know, an obvious
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: question going into this season that you're most confident about
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: having a positive answer eventually? To me, it's Will Campbell.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, for right now, I'm feeling pretty high on
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: Drake May's development, you know. I mean, I don't want
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: to overstate it because it's so important and it's so
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: hard to do. And I'm sure even if he has
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: a great season and you know, gets off to a
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: great start, there's still going to be some ups and
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: downs for him. But it all starts and ends for him.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: And right now I feel positive on him. And if
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: that works out, then I don't know how how much
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: the rest of it.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: What are the things that we're most concerned about, Well,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: the wide receivers, Like are they going to have pick that? Okay,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: that's a good one too. I mean, like you think
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: it's gonna work out.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: It'll be okay because I think Diggs looks like he's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: pretty comfortable. He's gonna be pretty healthy week one. You
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: so you're gonna have that guy that slots everybody else.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a lot you know, Milton Williams, will
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: he be able to play full time?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: You know, because I don't know if that's a I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: It's a question. Yeah, it's a question.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah that that that isn't a top my list. I
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 8: mean I think I think he wants to. And then
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: the fact that you have Barn wore there. It's not
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 8: like it's Milton Williams or bust. So you have a
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: good guy to have a rotation. You'll always have someone
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 8: who can have an interior presence like that. But I know, Paul,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: would you say, is Stefan Digs a number one?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 11: Is he a weapon?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: Yes? Oh yeah, I mean I'm sorry, a guy who
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: has like fifteen hundred yard seasons is yes, it is
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: a weapon. He is absolutely a weapon for this offense.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: He's without question the number one receiver and a weapon.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: Now you could get into paul semantics. If he's a
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: number one or any other team at this stage in
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: his career, doesn't matter. He's a patriot. No, but come on,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: he's a number one. I'm I'm not being stupid, am I?
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: But I think in relation to that though, it's really
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: as I said earlier with Williams and Booty, like how
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: much of those guys contribute? Does Booty take another step?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: Does Williams really blossom? And then you know, maybe you
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: do find a complimentary piece to it. And an observation
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: about Booty he's a slow starter. I don't notice him
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: early in campag this is three years in a row.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: I haven't the first pass he's I mean, he's out there.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: He starts with with Diggs in Douglas and I don't
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: see him as much as I see other guys. Do
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: you think it part of it is that that outside role,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: but I have him play is about goes and comebacks
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: and not get a lot.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 11: Of targets that as the X and Joshua.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: But like I kind of agree Mike, I thought that
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: Williams looked like he was in that role. Yeah when
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: he comes in, Yeah, most and he's gotten some you know,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: maybe they want to target him. Maybe it's one of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: those deals. I don't, Yeah, I just.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 10: You know, with McDaniel's I think the term that gets
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 10: used a lot as the sacrificial X, and it's like
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 10: you're just there to take to occupy the safety and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 10: put a deep element to it because we're actually trying
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 10: to throw the ball in other places.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 11: But I think my biggest concern, just put the team
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 11: overall right now, is just depth. You know.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 10: I think they did a nice job of getting the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 10: frontline starters into much better shape than it has been,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 10: and I feel a lot better about the top of
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 10: the roster than I have in recent years. But you
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 10: start looking at some of the position groups and today
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 10: with the corners, like you know, Carlon Davis wasn't out
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 10: there today, and now all of a sudden you have
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 10: like Alex Austin and Marcella's dial and like those guys
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 10: are playing a lot, and are they ready for that?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 10: You know, at right tackle, if Morgan Moses isn't what
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 10: we think he is or is hurt, or now Trey J.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: Cubs is back out there, or it's Cayden Wallace or
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 10: it's Marcus Bryant, and do they have enough to withstand
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 10: the injuries that are inevitably.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: That's my biggest question. But but I thought Fred made
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: a good little twist on that, like what do you
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: feel the best about the questions that will be answered positively?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: And I think the wide receiver one. You know, I'm
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: not telling you they're going to have to Drake and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: the wide receiver they're not going to have a great situation.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to come up with something that's like a
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: major quest, Like the offensive line is a major question.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: Depth is a major question overall. I don't know how
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: big of a question, you know, Like Milton Williams, can
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: he really play full time. You know. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he can or not. But I
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: guess that's a major question. It's hard coming up with
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: one that I definitively think is going to be answered positively. Yeah.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 8: I mean I tie all this to kind of what
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 8: we talked about earlier about the right tackle position, which
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 8: is I'm trying to hold out some hope that some
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 8: of these death pieces actually might be able to be
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 8: solid death pieces and not. You know, this is you
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: got to get through this year and really figure out
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: who the vrabel guys are, who the holdovers are that
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 8: can actually carry over from previous regimes into this regime
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: and still carve out, you know, a significant role. So
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: that's why I think if you have some of these
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 8: guys that you're surprised that you weren't really counting on,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 8: you know. And I'll just use Jacob's as the example
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: because we talked about him earlier. But again, like you know,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 8: suddenly all of a sudden, it's like whoa, He's suddenly
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 8: something well out there, Yeah, you know, And I mean
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but there
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: are other positions along the roster where you know, Alex
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 8: Austin has had solid ends to the last couple of seasons,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 8: battled injuries, hasn't been able to put it all together.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: But does Carlton Davis have some kind of lingering injury?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: Does he get more of an opportunity he steps up
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden it's like, Okay, we've
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: got another young corner now that we can try to
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: keep around and provide some depth. So it's a great
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: question thing. And I got asked the same thing when
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: I went on a serious radio yesterday and I know,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: who were you within seems and I'm no, no, it
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: was it was. It wasn't a big show.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think I party shows. His music show just
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: asked me about music the whole time.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: But they asked me the same thing about you know,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: where is the biggest concern on the top And I'm like,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: there isn't really top line concerns. You kind of know
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: who the guys are out there, and you hope that
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: they play well, of course, but really the question are
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: the depth the sub packages, how do the wide receiver
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: snaps get divvied up?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: Those kind of things.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean like they're going to have a playmaker question,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 10: like do they have enough firepower on offense to really
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 10: compete with the top top teams. But like to Fred's
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 10: question earlier, I think all those little things are going
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 10: to figure themselves out just fine. Like I think Will
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: Campbell's going to be just fine. I think Milton Williams
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 10: is going to be just fine. The question, the only
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 10: question that I have is like when they do get injuries,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: and they will get injuries, like do they have enough
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 10: depth behind some of these guys to withstand it and
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 10: be really you know, are we going to get be
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: in November and December? And it's like, well, I tackle,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 10: like everybody got hurt, and you know.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Now we're on Well if everybody gets hurt.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 10: Their starters got hurt, and now we're on Trey Jacobs
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 10: and Venerian Lowe again, and here you know that we're.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: It's not it's not everybody there are I agree with Evan,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: there are a couple of guys that if they got hurt,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: would be borderline disastrous. And it's not everybody, you know,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: but if if you if you lost like three guys
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: out of what he's talking about, like you know, one
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: of the tackles one of the corners and one in Spalline.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: You know, that'd be really really impactful. That's not a
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: lot of injuries, but it's three very specific.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 10: Ones, right, you know, because I just feel like they
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: had to get back to level with the roster this
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: past offseason, and they did a nice job of that,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 10: but they haven't built enough over years, right, Like, in
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 10: order to really build up the whole fifty three, it
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 10: takes two or three years to really have that.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: Was like, they went into free agency and got some
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 8: of their guys, but they haven't been able to draft
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: develop their kind of guys to round out the roster.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Here, Nathan is in Monterey, Texas, Mexico, says, I opened
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: the show on Monday, and imagine my excitement when one
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: of the first topics to come up was the two
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: thousand and two season. My heart skipped a beat. As
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Fred Toldpaul, we'll talk about that later. We got an
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: email about it. My email was about to touch the
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: hollow lips of kersh was about to echo in the
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: halls of Patriots podcast history. I was about to have
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: sarcasm and snark directed my way by Paul some self
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: deprecating jokes from Mike, even Fawn reminiscing about his days
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: as a young fan by Evan, and then two hours
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: and nothing. As time wore on, I realized I'd been teased,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: teased by Fred Kersh. My email was not going to
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: be read. Anyone else who has experienced his religious experience
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: can understand and relate to the ecstasy felt. I have
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: been blessed. I will die happy. PS. I really am
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: interested in answer to my question about the two thousand
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: and two season, and I do remember that, and I
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: apologize Nathan, we get sidetracked. But his question was what happened?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: They won the Super Bowl in one and then in
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: O two. I think it's like one of only two
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: years that Brady didn't make the playoffs.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like led the league in touchdowns?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Is that right?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: So he led the league in touchdowns just despite not
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: really being good until like oh seven.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: It's always this argument that he's like, no, I mean, Paul.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: The think Paul's always said to me because I've asked him,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: that he's asking questions like they couldn't stop the run.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: That was a big, big problem with that team. They
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: brought in some guys. Steve Martin was sort of the
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: poster child for it. He was a great remember the
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: great guy. He played some nose tackle for that team.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: Great talker, wasn't a great player, didn't didn't really play
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: all that well. Four of them up front in the.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: Next Yeah, that shows you.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: So they recognized the problems. And back then that era,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: you know, running the ball and stopping the run was
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: far more vital to a team's success than it is today.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: Not that it's irrelevant today, but it was really really important.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: I remember the third game they started. The team started
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: off three and zero and then they ended up finishing
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: nine and seven. Very pedestrian. But the third game was
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: at home here against Kansas City, and Priest Holmes ran
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: for about one hundred and eighty five yards. They just
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: couldn't stop them, could not stop them on the ground.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: It was a shootout. I think the Patriots ended up
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: winning in overtime, but like forty one thirty eight or
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: thirty eight thirty five, something like that, they just couldn't
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: stop the run. It was kind of as simple as that.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 8: Kind of reminds me of the seventeen opener when I
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 8: or yeah, seventeen opener when same thing. Chiefs Kareem hunt
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 8: all over them and you're like, h oh, and that
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 8: was you got.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: To the super Bowl. But a sign of these team
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: is going to struggle to stop people.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 10: That was my first experience was trying to understand tiebreakers
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 10: in sports. Like I was like nine, ten years old
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 10: at that point, and my dad's like trying to explain them.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 10: But I'm like, but they have this, like the record
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: is good enough to make the playoffs, and he's like.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 11: They didn't make it. I kept refreshing.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 10: I remember, like the CBS sports line or whatever it was.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 10: I was like, but I don't get it, Like what's
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 10: it was like a that in a in eight right
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 10: where they both they missed out on tie breakers in
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 10: both occasions. O.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: Wait, was was really unlucky. I mean the OA team
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: went eleven and five, You should make the playoffs at
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: eleven and five, nine and seven, you kind of leave
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: yourself vulnerable to a tiebreaker. But eleven and five, it
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: was just one of those years that it was sort
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: of been an a liar that eleven and five wasn't good.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: Enough to make the play missed the playoff.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: I think I think that there's a Denver team. I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: remember being social with that no one else had ever
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: not made the playoffs. Yeah, no one's ever made it any
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: and he was, like, says here Denver, son of a bitch.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: I don't remember that.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Corey and Connecticut. Been at Patrios fan since the fled
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: So days and a diehard PU listener since twenty twenty season.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely love the show, look forward to every episode. Just
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: wanted to say the guest the listener game was one
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: of the absolute favorite things you've done. Hearing all these
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: callers every week, you can't help but create a mental
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: image of what they look like, and it was so
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: much fun to actually put the faces to the names.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: I played along and got seven out of ten.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: Right better than me, way better than us.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Christian in La looked as smug as one might imagine,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: and I knew immediately it had to be him Ford
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: and Savannah and his look of whimsy totally had me fooled.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: I thought he was James Pettigroup. Can't wait for the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: next edition with Patty from Agawam, Jack for Ma and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Aba and more of the faithful PU listeners.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Fun.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: Have those emails still been coming in people sent in
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: their pictures?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: I guess, so that's fun.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: The people could play at home. I didn't even think
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: of that though. That's a it's a family game, it's
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: a fun game.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: It's a family game.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: Everybody can play. Can't win if you don't play.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Josh in Atlanta writes in Dear do
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Some Fred, I love you both dearly, but your unbridled
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: trait Jacob's optimism won't distract me from the unmitigated disaster
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: that was last year. Per PFF, Jacobs was thirty eighth
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: out of four one hundred and forty eligible tackles in
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: total snaps, but ranked one hundred and thirty seventh in
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: overall block grading. Any scenario where he benches Morgan Moses
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: is catastrophic. Also, Christian and La tried too hard in
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: that photo submission and in every one of his many
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: nauseating ventures.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: Kind of Christian. Everybody's saying it. They felt like a
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: photo shoot, a little bit like I wonder it definitely lights,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: he had some lighting and lighting.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 10: It seemed like maybe a ring light, you know, like
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 10: there's a lot of an influencer on the side.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: Right he understands he's gonna call back in I.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Want to hear from miss Iceland like what happened?
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: And what do they do in Iceland?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: She's living in the Greater Naya falls Er.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Well, the the funny thing about it is Iceland is
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: the one that's more green. Green is the one that's
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: more ice.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: I've heard that, did you know? I've heard that tale
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: Vikings very.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: Small drive on a parkway and park.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: That's actually a Stephen Right's Stephen Right?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 11: Which one is the one that's James James Bond goes.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 11: I think it's Iceland.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not a Chiefs Bawn guy.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: Really, James, I thought for sure you'd be a James
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: Bond guy.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: Halle Berry.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: James all time great franchises.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: I would totally agree with that, And I would also
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: tell you in the same breath that I've never seen
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: a single one what what.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Gosh?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 11: I mean doesn't like action?
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: That's completely on rom com. Matter of fact, I watched
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: it for the four thousand consecutive times the other day.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: But you think you think love story?
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 10: Now I'm mad creators like so good soundtrack?
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: Are you not entertained?
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the way it was back?
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 11: Is this like Shakespeare?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: That's what I think of that take?
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 11: Have you never seen Skyfall.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 8: No, I saw like the like the Roger Moore one
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 8: in like the eighties.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: And one of the worst living living like the Roger
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: Moore won a lot.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 18: I'm sorry sorry, Well the one that I forget which
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 18: one it was Living Let Die, Living, Let Dies, Moon
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 18: Brakers that was that was that was Roger was his
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 18: best living. Yeah, definitely saw the Living Daylights at the
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 18: Cape Cinema.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: And Dennis for sure remember that clearest day to me
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 5: Dalton very.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 10: The boat chasing and Living Let Die is legit and
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 10: that's like and that was like back then like that,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 10: you know, to be able to put something together like that.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 11: And then you have Paul McCartney on the soundtrack.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: Yea great, Like you're like Sean Connery, you got them all.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: You're like James Bond.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: My father is the biggest James Bond all right.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 8: Well he read the books and stuff down right, I
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 8: mean I've watched.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: And he would agree that Broy's the best Bond, right.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: Uh really Bond is that fact? See, I can't comment
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: on account I didn't see.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: I think Craig is the best.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 11: He's very good.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people think it's blasphemy to
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: say anybody but Sean Connery, but.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: I expect you to die.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 10: Roger Moore is like that's his era, you know, like
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 10: she's a little too young for Sean Connery. It was
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 10: like the sixties, so he was a young and so
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 10: like Roger Moore like Live and Let Die is probably
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 10: his favorite.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I had the toy Aston
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: Martin Carr that it would shoot little things out the front.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: The bullet shield would come out in the back, you know,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: doors open. It was really cool. And then I had
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: a James Bond briefcase that you open it up and
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: had all the weapons. It actually shot a missile out
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: the front of the thing like nowadays, like they would
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: never sell this because you know, kids would be getting killed.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I had the James Bond briefcase. That
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: was That was Sean cold and I no gold Finger.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Goldfinger was Sean Connor. Remember like the worst one, Roger
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Moore when they had that that giant guy and on
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: the space station.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is correct that I'm in for this now.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: That was awful.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: That was awful.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: Awful movie.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: You guys are really guys are really selling it.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 11: That was awful.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: This one song he was the worst.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: Bonds, the one had the bond that was the first,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: that was the first bond. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: a one and done. Yeah yeah.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's like a franchise thing, like I'm not I
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: haven't really seen a lot of like Fast and Furious. No, no,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: I saw the first one, and I'm thinking about all
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: of these like action kind of franchise things, and you
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: might be right.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, like Parker said, we just park I'm like, I
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 8: miss I've seen six Jurassic Parks.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: I've seen some of your Jurassic Parks though, I've seen
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: like the first couple were worth watching.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 8: And like the Marvel movies, like I've left like and
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 8: then the DC movies, and like it's just so much
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: to talk about.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: Would be right about my critics. I don't like the Superhero.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 10: We're talking about that today because somebody asked me if
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 10: I had seen the New Superman or Fantastic Four yet,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 10: and I was like, to be honest with you, like
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 10: getting kind of tired of it.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 11: Like there's been a lot.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 10: I know, Mad behind the Glass right now is like
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 10: you're gonna kill me, But like there's there's just there's a.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: Lot to do it in a variety of ways.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah, right, And there's a lot of superhero movies like
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 10: can We take a Break?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 8: Like and it's like it's so like this is gonna
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 8: set up the next twelve years of field. Like everyone's
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 8: trying to do what they did with the Avengers, right
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 8: and then trying to have their version of it, And
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 8: it's just.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: See, that's why I love the Boys on Prime because
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: it was a whole new take on superheroes and it
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: was just so irreverent.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: It was it was ridiculously over the top the deepest,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: like one of my favorite characters, Like, he's such a funny,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: such a loser.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: I love it the deep too many.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: He's his girlfriend's an octopus.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: What like the bit with the whale too, they had
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 8: some big whale where like a whale dies, I forget
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 8: the dolphins.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: Dolphin, Yeah, he's trying to say that. Yeah, he's such
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: a loser. Barton Poland writes in Fred, don't worry. I
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: forgive you for not recognizing me from the picture. But honestly,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: considering how many Guinnesses were involved that night, I would
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: have bet on Evan being the one to forget.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 11: That was a night there there are quite a few beverages.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: Funny yeap, phil and Vermont writes in excited because for
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: the first time ever, I'm coming down for joint practice.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: As is often the topic when it comes to the
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: joint practices, it's intriguing to see the teams come together,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: observed player performances and evaluate who's excelling and who isn't.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: My question is, what do you know about the relationships
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: between coaches during these joint practices? Our coaches generally open
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: to experimentation and collaboration, or are some more secretive and
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: reluctant to delve into the details.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: No, I think the first one.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they plan these joints because they have
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: a relationship. Yeah, you know, I really respect coach.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 11: They usually talk.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 10: They'll talk for the practices and they'll they'll go over
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 10: the script together of like what exactly they want to
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 10: hit and what they want to work on now in
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 10: terms of like what planes they're gonna call, I think
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 10: they keep that close to the best to anybody. But
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 10: in terms of the script of practice and situations like
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 10: are we first, second down, third down, third and long
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 10: red zone, like all that stuff I think gets talked about.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 4: You said at the top with Moses. They know what
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: our plays are, they know our cadences. I mean, just
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: to get to go against another team that it's more
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: of a level playing field against that defense.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: They're a little and it's just it's better preparation.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: You can see why the coaches enjoy it. I mean,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: I do think I don't think we've mentioned it too.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, it does seem like they're going to do
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: two with the Vikings.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: I mean we've gone back to one. Last year was one.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: This year was you know, one with the Commanders, But
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 8: it's gonna be two with the Vikings. To me, I
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 8: just wondered as that, you know, a sign of just
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 8: trust between Kevin O'Connell and and Rabel that it's not
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 8: gonna be like we were in Green Bay when the
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: first eight plays of the second day practices were all fights.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: You know, it was bad.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Claire Claire Wright, Hello Marine ill everyone, she said, friend
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: on her Majesty's secret Servey. It wasn't the first bond
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: I stand corrected. It was Midway, but George Lazenbee's only
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: movie and it was one of the worst ones, So
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: I got doubt that, right. Claire's British, Yeah, George Lazenbe
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: and she agrees with you. She says, Marine, You're right,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Brosnan did the Bond best, So I.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: Think he had the best bond girl of.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 10: You're gonna say Ali Berry if we're being honest, I
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 10: really feel like it's Daniel Craig. But like all the
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 10: O G Vond fans like my dad would never say
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 10: it's Daniel Craig because it's too nostalgic for them to
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 10: say Connery or Roger Moore. But I think in terms
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 10: of the movies themselves, like his movies are were the best,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 10: like Skyfallowers, Oh yeah, yeah, awesome movie.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: I've seen piece of You know what I like about
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: you know Craig though, is that he looks more like
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: a villain right an, But he plays a good guy,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: doesn't he have just the.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Look of like well looks Ian Fleming's book Bond was
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: he had like the double side to.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 11: Me, he's on the line.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he does some things that he like you are
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 10: not on like interesting not to the letter of the law,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 10: Ye for sure.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was, you know, straddling that line.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: Just like almost Father Fred esque. Yes, yes, you know,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: willing to push the envelope.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 10: When but he has to do it because these villains
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 10: are like super villain. So the only way he's going
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 10: to bring down the villain is if he kind of
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 10: toes that line.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good, that's a good like button for some
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: of the series. And Father Fred is like when he
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: goes to confession and there's like a.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: Certain priest that he always goes to that knows all secrets,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: and then like maybe he gets kidnapped, and Father Fred's worried,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 8: like it's all going to get out, all the sneakers.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: He has to go to the eighty three year old,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: staunchly Irish half Like I.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Go into confession, it's light out and then at the
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: end it's dunk out because I've been in there that long.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: Father O'Shaughnessy has to hear Fred's Confession's.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: Been kidnapped, Fred, We've got to find him.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: Episode two one, Yeah, two to one. Yeah, Well we
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: hit it big.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 8: Syndication ten Yeah, Joe and Vermont.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: The other emailer was correct about the curse portrayal. I
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: need more Salt and Pepper shows because that's the only
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: time my emails get rid. Remember Salt and Pepper, Remember
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: they came here that that was evident me like, oh no,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: we had a We had a listener who came in
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: with his girlfriend and they were like salt and pepper.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they've all left us.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe just Fred's presence increases email quantity times ten. In
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: all seriousness, what are the Patriots going to do with
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: the tight end depth if they go into season with
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: Henry Hooper and no fullback.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: It's another great example to what Paul said. If Hunter
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 5: Henry goes down, it starts.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: To in the other part, you know, roster building wise.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: You know, yes, we can all say Lampi is on
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: the team and that would be one of those tight ends,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: right or one of these guys plays his way onto
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: the roster and this is a handful.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 11: Of west Over CJ.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: Dippery is a G Scott or Scott G jam Bell
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: jahem Bell Foma draft pick. If one of these guys
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: has a strong camp and there's gonna be opportunity because
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: Hooper's driving at least out for now, it's not driving
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: the bott I'm sorry.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: It's what we do.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, we can't let down the audience.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: What are you doing, David the Philippines you're watching David.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: The Philippines wants to know if we know what's going
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: on with Poke.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 8: Report today that he had a little stiffness and that
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: they're taking cautious in.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 11: The shoulder patness is what it was reported as, which a.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: Little strange in his shoulder. But I mean, well he
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: had being precautions really, but.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 10: I guess he passed his physical is all reported this,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 10: But he passed his physical. But then I was trying
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 10: to get out there probably earlier this week and felt
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 10: some some tightness my arm.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: It's broke on my own.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: Mark's in Connecticut on the hotline. What's up? Mark?
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Mark?
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 9: I just.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 13: What the robin? The robin?
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 19: That was just a training camp today And I got
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 19: to go up and say ida Al exposed before he
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 19: got on ninety eight five.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 13: That was cool.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: Nice, Sorry for that. So do you have a good
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: time today?
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 9: Has a very good time happened?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 19: What did you think of the training beyond Henderson wheel
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 19: wound with the explosive speed that the.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: Kids got, Kid's got great speed.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 10: He had hid catching the flat today where he scooted
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 10: it a little bit after the catch with it, I
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 10: mean you.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 11: Can see it floats.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, obviously that's one of those guys that for McDaniels,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 10: just finding ways to get him the ball in space,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 10: like you don't want to force feed it.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: But what was your favorite part about camp today? Mark?
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 11: Meeting Alex Bart of course, of course.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 19: Well absolutely, yeah, I got to talk to him. But
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 19: actually I got to say Caleb Burton and.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Oh right, wow, he's the Burton family. Great. So you
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: get you know, any autographs or any anything, try any food.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 19: I'm actually gonna go meet Bob Douglass at Kowloons thirteen.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, you got a date with all right, sounds good
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: at the Kowloon up in Saugust.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 19: There.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, Kowloon the Kowloon, all right, that sounds like a
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: good all right, Well thanks Mark, thanks for checking in. Mark.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Was that practice today?
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: I got to go back there. I haven't been there
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 5: since cheez, I think I haven't.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 5: Like the week of graduation we do all kinds of events,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 5: and I think that was the last time I went there.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 8: We went whole like class of ninety nine.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 10: It's like a it's a big deal, like they have
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 10: like Andy Wong's like all over the place.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackie in and Arbor. I've read every one of
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Ian Fleming's Bond books. Bond was an assassin, a cold
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: blooded killer. He was also a highly educated, refined English gentleman.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: Sean Connery was by far the best Bond and it's
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: not even close. I could explain it in excruciating detail
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: why that is, but we don't have time.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 10: He was fantastic, But to be consistent with my take
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 10: on Jaws, his movies were obviously came out a very
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 10: long time ago, so it's a little bit of a
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 10: different level of.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 4: Do they not hold up?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan in the world
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: and probably our closest listener to James Bond said Brosnin
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: was the best. Craig is too emotional. He needs to
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: smoke some weed and PS is the only US call
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: and number of the free phone. One can't seem to connect.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 11: Pierce Brosident was very good.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: I would like a book recommendation. I'd like to read it,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 5: James Bond book. I'll do that for anyone. I guess, kay,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: I will.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, you're leaving me, Mike. I'll be the only one
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: that has no interest, no knowledge I'm interested in the books,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: and people say it's it really describes the character. And
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: I mean I kind of have a you know, preaking
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: not preconc but I have a notion of what James
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: Bond is based on the handful of movies that I
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: have seen.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: So who was the character Robert Ludlam's book, his famous
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: spy character.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, Jason Born read books? Uh did you? I think
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: I did read the first one. But I saw the movies.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well the books.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 8: Matt Damon taking somebody down with a rolldout magazine. That
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 8: was pretty fun.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 10: There's nothing wrong with some Matt Damon action movie. Paul
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 10: doesn't not interested, also doesn't like Born.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: I saw all of them. Yeah, you Identity Supremacy. I
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 4: watched The Boy. I told you it's not an anti
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: action movie thing. It's that's not accurate. It's a little
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: bit of an anti c G. I like superhero thing
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: that I'm not really Jameson. No, no, no, So I'm
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: just saying it has nothing to do with it.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: Transformers. No, tried to use a little, use a lot less.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: I have seen, I mean nowhere near like all of them,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: like you, all of the Marvel movies, all the you know.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: But I have seen probably double digits, and I don't
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: dislike them. They're just not my thing. I don't have
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: to rush out to go see them, you know. And
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: I've heard really good things about the most recent Superman thing.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: Every everybody that has gone to see it says it
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: was pretty good, worth worth worth a watch. Politics rails
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: really short, huh wow, what politics?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 11: Just watch the movie.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: It's great.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: James Gunman in the Immigrant comments about Superman the fan
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: days and half.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 11: Well, it's funny because I didn't catch it. I know
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 11: what he's talking about, and I'm going to choose to
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 11: stay away from it.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: Because Randy writes in he's from Providence. What I was saying, Oh,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: we couldn't hear him was May's growth should be about
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: limiting mistakes, mirroring the Tom Brady planned years ago where
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: he wasn't asked to do a lot, just not lose
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: games and learned to take what the defense gives him.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 4: And you guys made fun of me when I pointed
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: out that he led the league in touchdown passes in
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: year two.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 11: Well, he just didn't lose the game.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: He managed it.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, just managing games. Leading the league in touchdown pass.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: That was a long time ago, but Josh Allen had
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: a similar growth arc. Last year. There were only six
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks with a worse interception rate than May's three point
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: zero Richardson, Jamis, Winston, will Levis, Kirk, Cousins, Gardner, Minshew
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: and Mac Jones. Learning to limit mistakes is definitely something
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: he needs to.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 4: Work on the part, I agree one hundred percent.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Do you hear that Justin Field's got car it off to.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: Day He's okay, Oh he's okay to sorry, dislocated toe
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: not considered significant, okay.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 11: To which I say, the hysteriover was.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: You get carted off with it just located to that.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 10: Could have just been like their practice facility. It's like
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 10: it's a long while.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd have to see it to make a definitive
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: that was I.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 10: Think that was Twitter like way overreacting to something that
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 10: was ended up being.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: It sounds like people weren't really paying attention all of
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: a sudden the quarterback went down and they were like, oh,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: he's getting carted off.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 8: I like the way of looking at that though for
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 8: me and not focusing on we need you to be superman,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 8: you know, just the baby steps, clean it up, play consistent,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 8: take the profit, and if we get in a situation
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 8: or a game where we need you to do something special, hopefully.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: You can do it right.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: You don't have to put the pressure on you to
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: be special. Just execute.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: Agree with everything.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 10: Mike just said, yeah, not to you know, compare him
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 10: to Mahomes, but like I feel like that that was
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 10: like sort of Mahomes' evolution more than Josh. Like now
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 10: Mahomes just does just enough to win the game. Like
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 10: he doesn't. He doesn't run around as much as he
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 10: used to, and he's not throwing bombs all the time
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 10: like he did it early on in his career. Now
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 10: he is a very very good game manager.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: So I would just say in terms of statistics, I
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: don't really care. I don't think Jayden Daniels the statistics
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: were eye popping last year and I'm just calling him
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 4: up right now. He completed sixty ninety percent of his throws,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 4: which is a high. That's a pretty high completion rate
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: for a rookie. Thirty five hundred and sixty eight yards,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: twenty five touchdowns, nine picks. His stats are pedestrian, I
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: mean one hundred passer rating nowadays is like twentieth, right,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: but what did he do in the situations that Evan's
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: talking about. He was the reason they won. So yes,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have to be superman for seventeen games for
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: four quarters, but he might have to be superman more
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: than a half dozen times when it counts. That was
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady. And by the way, that was Tom Brady
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: in two thousand and one when the game needed to
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: be won. He was near perfect almost always fourth quarter
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: in Denver notwithstanding. Right, Yeah, I mean he that's what
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: separates these guys. Jayden Daniels didn't just light up every
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: team he played last year. Now this doesn't also give
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: his rushing totals, but Drake May's gonna have good rushing
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: totals too. He had great rushing numbers last year. What
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: does he do when the game's on the line, and
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: can he keep those turn itovers down?
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: How cool is he?
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 10: In the pressure from Daniels last year or through the
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 10: game when he touched down to McLaurin and just like
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 10: put it right, I was just thinking, yeah, it is
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 10: like under like a game when he walk off type
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 10: of touchdown and just throw him right down the field
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 10: and then threw an absolute dime.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: But I mean even thinking early in the year, there
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: was a game against Cincinnati. I want to say it
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: was like a Monday night game or a Thursday night game,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: and they just Cincinnati just kept scoring and getting within
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: a score. And the fourth quarter, you know those those
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: hard first downs that you have to crank out. Fourth down,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: they go for already runs for it, third and long.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: They throw a pass, deep pass to mcclorin on the side,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: and they put the game away with a touchdown pass
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: beating the blitz they sent everybody at them.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 11: I think we're talking about the same point.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: Those the individual those are the individual moments where games
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: need to be won. How do you play that? Is Superman? Again,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: the stats don't tell you he's Superman. Twenty five and nine.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: That's a really good rookie year. It's a really good
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: rookie year. But it's not anything that I would say
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: that there's no way Drake May's going to throw go
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: twenty five and nine this year. Of course he could.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 10: I feel like a lot of that is like where
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 10: you're most confident about like Rabel, and I feel like
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 10: Rabel is going to put a much bigger emphasis on
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 10: leadership and clutch and knowing what the game needs when
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 10: it needs it, and like not so much about making
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 10: you know, highlight real plays that they're going to on
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 10: on Drake May's you know, melt when they show him
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 10: on Sports Center, but like more so like all these
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 10: other little things that we're talking about, and I feel
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 10: like Rabel is already sort of trying to hammer some
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 10: of those things even in practice.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 8: It's a great comment, paulse It's just it's this isn't
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 8: exactly what I mean, but it's like special is intangible almost,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 8: and you can look at the guys who throw the
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 8: most touchdowns and you know, throw the most interceptions. But
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 8: really the trait that's going to define greatness in the
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 8: NFL the quarterback position is do you perform when the
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 8: game's on the line and win those games.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: Like, let's not make this out to be like if
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 4: we can get just a nice game manager who stays
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: out of trouble and avoids mistakes, that's not what we're
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: looking for. That's not enough. I don't I'm just making
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 4: for myself. That's not enough for me. They chock this
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: guy with a third overall pick. I don't want Trent
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  Speaker 4: Dilfer I don't want to win a title despite the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I want to win a title because of the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: And that will remain to be seening. Don't don't lose
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  Speaker 4: the game in the first three quarters and be ready
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  Speaker 4: to win the game in the four.
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  Speaker 10: And that's like the line that they have to balance
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  Speaker 10: because like, in order to get the turnovers down and stuff,
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  Speaker 10: he's going to have to be a little bit more conservative.
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  Speaker 10: But you also don't want it to be a detriment
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  Speaker 10: where it's it's Trent dover right, you know you wanted
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  Speaker 10: to You want to still have that balance of him
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  Speaker 10: being able to go out and make plays.
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  Speaker 5: And I love his aggressiveness going down the field.
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  Speaker 8: It's something that stood out to me last year in camp,
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  Speaker 8: like he just hope they don't take that away from
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  Speaker 8: you know, I'm a little I am too.
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  Speaker 2: Kai James writes, and I now you all might be
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  Speaker 2: tired of the uniform conversations, but you're failing to highlight
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  Speaker 2: one major issue with the Blueberries. I myself want the
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  Speaker 2: Dynasty uniforms back, not only because the silver on them,
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  Speaker 2: but because of the number, lettering font. When they change
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  Speaker 2: the unis in twenty twenty, they changed the lettering and
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  Speaker 2: numbers to a more straight looking font. Look at Edelman's
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  Speaker 2: eleven from both you will notice they removed the bottom
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  Speaker 2: stand under the number one. Likewise, the last name lettering
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  Speaker 2: looks much more boring without the traditional Patriots font bordering.
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  Speaker 2: I feel as if that is a sneaky underlying reason
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  Speaker 2: why we don't like Kai in Kentucky's my peeps. I totally,
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  Speaker 2: he calls himself Kentucky James.
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  Speaker 5: It's such a nerd thing too.
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  Speaker 4: But like I even just really liked the font that
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  Speaker 4: they had for the name plates on the Dynasty uniforms.
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  Speaker 4: And I can't explain why, but everything he said, I
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  Speaker 4: get it. Congratulation.
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  Speaker 11: The blueberries just aren't good.
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  Speaker 10: It's okay, yeah, no, no, And I don't think I
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  Speaker 10: can say that because I don't think they're gonna wear
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  Speaker 10: the full blueberry anymore. I think they're gonna do blue
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  Speaker 10: on top with silver pants, so it's I think we're
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  Speaker 10: away from that. But the look of the one color
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  Speaker 10: from it's just it just too much blue.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, too much?
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  Speaker 2: All right, listen, that's gonna be it for this edition
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. We've got practice tomorrow, so we'll be
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: out there and you guys will have your wrap up
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: podcast right after that camp cast. Yep, so we'll have
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: that same thing on Saturday. There'll be another practice on Saturday,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: which will be at players are Off on Sunday, and
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: then we'll be back at it on Monday with a
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: live show from practice first day of pads and we
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: will be there. So until then, everybody, have a good
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: weekend and as far as this show, we'll see him Monday.
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