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11-03-26 Hour 3 - Nuggets fall to Blazers at Ball/Friggin goalie interference, Keys to the Avs Game/Odds & ends · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: This is Jamal Murray.
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  Speaker 3: It's time for a double dip.
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  Speaker 4: Jamal Murray has it.
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  Speaker 5: He goes to the right hand. Step back three. Yes!
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  Speaker 5: Big one there. Cam gets in the paint. Behind him, Murray,
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  Speaker 5: head fake, sidestep three.
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  Speaker 1: Got it again!
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  Speaker 5: Right at the hoard! Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Jamal Murray's the Iceman. Well, it was a good first half,
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  Speaker 4: not so good a second half. Portland finally heated up
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  Speaker 4: from downtown, and that was the difference in the game.
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  Speaker 4: The three-point ball. Final tonight from Denver, Portland 118, Denver 110.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, this is Brett Kulak.
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  Speaker 2: You smell that? It's a double dip.
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  Speaker 6: McCarr tries to throw the needle.
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  Speaker 5: Tipped. They score!
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  Speaker 6: Hughes and Kadri are right there. For the second time tonight,
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  Speaker 6: the Kadri man can.
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  Speaker 5: Senti taves the intercept. Can he hit the open net?
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  Speaker 7: You betcha!
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  Speaker 6: The Avalanche are monsters in the midway. Down 2-0. Did
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  Speaker 6: not quit. And they win this one 5-2. You smell that?
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  Speaker 2: It's a double dip.
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  Speaker 3: Give it a smell, guys. Smell that double dip. Opposites.
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  Speaker 3: Great start for the Nuggets. Terrible finish. Terrible start for
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  Speaker 3: the Avs. Great finish. And I want to start with
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets for this reason. One thing I want to
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  Speaker 3: point out and make sure that we highlight. Jamal Murray
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  Speaker 3: has been awesome all year.
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  Speaker 2: It's his best start ever. Not only his best start,
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  Speaker 2: it's an historic start for a Nuggets player. Nobody's averaged
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  Speaker 2: more points through the first six games.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure we all recognize that
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  Speaker 3: it's not just him. Him and Christian Brown have been
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  Speaker 3: great to start this season. The issue with the Nuggets
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  Speaker 3: is Joker and Aaron Gordon have not. They've been bad.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, pump the brakes a little bit on
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  Speaker 2: how you define bad. And Nikola Jokic is still the
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  Speaker 2: best player on this team. I've heard some people get
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  Speaker 2: outlandish here. Right now, Jamal Murray's playing the best. Jamal
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  Speaker 2: Murray is scoring the best. The best player on this team.
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  Speaker 2: It's still Nikola Jokic.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not get this twisted.
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  Speaker 2: Now, can he be better? Can he do other things?
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  Speaker 2: Did he get sort of run by Donovan Klingon in
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  Speaker 2: the post last night? There were a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: we witnessed, but let's not get crazy. Well, Vic, right now,
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  Speaker 2: Jamal's playing the best because he's the best shot creator
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  Speaker 2: on this team. And they don't have another one of those.
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  Speaker 2: And they desperately need one to give them some help.
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  Speaker 3: We all know this, though. Jokic is graded on a
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  Speaker 3: curve because of his greatness. And when Joker, through six
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  Speaker 3: games of this season, is sub-50% shooting the basketball, that
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  Speaker 3: is entirely out of Jokic's character.
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  Speaker 2: 100%.
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  Speaker 3: And this team, I think, has been pretty obvious over
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  Speaker 3: the last, I mean, even dating back to the championship season.
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  Speaker 3: If Joker's great, the team is typically great. If he's not,
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  Speaker 3: you have a hard time winning. And you have that
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  Speaker 3: combined with Aaron Gordon. He's shooting like 36% from the
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  Speaker 3: floor this season.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that was inverse the last few years. If
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  Speaker 2: Jamal Murray scores 25 or more, the Nuggets are basically unbeatable, right?
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  Speaker 2: So now he's doing it, and they're still losing games.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what's going on from my vantage
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  Speaker 2: point because I've seen it now. Six games in, I've
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  Speaker 2: seen it three of the six games. There is a
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  Speaker 2: disconnect at home going on, and I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it is. I don't know why they're getting so comfortable
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  Speaker 2: at home and not playing Nuggets basketball at home. Because
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  Speaker 2: I went on the road trip with them and I
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  Speaker 2: saw a completely different energy, focus, just the way they
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  Speaker 2: move the ball, defensive presence. And then they come back
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  Speaker 2: to Denver and we've seen three games in Denver. They
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  Speaker 2: barely beat New Orleans, had to rally like crazy to
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  Speaker 2: win that game, got toasted by Golden State and gave
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  Speaker 2: up a lead last night to Portland. And they did
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  Speaker 2: it all in the same manner. A lack of team participation.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. This doesn't look good when
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  Speaker 2: you look at the box score. And there's two players
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  Speaker 2: on the team that attempted double-digit shots. Joker attempted 22
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  Speaker 2: shots last night. Jamal Murray attempted 19. Not a single
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  Speaker 2: other Denver Nugget attempted double-digit shots. They're not shooting the ball.
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  Speaker 5: A.G.
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  Speaker 2: And Cam Johnson are not shooting the ball. A.G. had
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  Speaker 2: six shot attempts. Cam had five before leaving with that
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  Speaker 2: hamstring injury. I'm not telling you anything David Adelman didn't
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  Speaker 2: tell the media last night. He said it after the game.
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  Speaker 2: You got to give these dudes some help. It can't
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  Speaker 2: be Joker and Jamal score-a-thon every night.
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  Speaker 5: Vic, what about the boards? Talk to me about rebounding
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  Speaker 5: because the Portland Trailblazers cleaned the Nuggets' clocks last night.
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  Speaker 2: Donovan Klingin cleaned. The Nuggets, clocks, 7'3, King Kong Klingon.
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  Speaker 2: He just dominated inside. He moved everybody around. And he
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  Speaker 2: kept tapping the ball around. He had nine offensive rebounds
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  Speaker 2: by himself. When you get out-rebounded the way the Nuggets
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  Speaker 2: did last night, 53-37, you got no chance. And that
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  Speaker 2: should never happen at home, to give up so many
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  Speaker 2: offensive boards. That's an energy thing. Again, you got to
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  Speaker 2: give them smell.
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  Speaker 5: I'm watching... I'm sorry, Vic, I'm watching late and there's
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  Speaker 5: like loose balls in the paint. And it's just it
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  Speaker 5: seems it's finding the Blazers hands and you're not you're
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  Speaker 5: late to react to it, you know, and you're just
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  Speaker 5: a step out of the picture. And it just was
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  Speaker 5: frustrating to me to watch the towards the end of
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  Speaker 5: that game last night.
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  Speaker 2: Well, frustrating to me, the most frustrating is I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's just my my whole Denver thing. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're playing at altitude. You should expect to
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  Speaker 2: win here because, historically, the Nuggets always win at altitude.
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  Speaker 2: They run teams out of the gym. And they're not running.
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  Speaker 2: They're not doing the things that I think they should
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  Speaker 2: be doing at home. Home court, they're 1-2 at home.
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  Speaker 2: And I know it's early. They're 1-2 at home. Look
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  Speaker 2: at what the Denver Broncos have done at mile high.
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  Speaker 2: They own it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The fans own it. They own it. And that's a
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  Speaker 2: huge advantage. What happened to the home court here? Why
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  Speaker 2: is everyone, why does everyone look so slothful at home?
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  Speaker 5: Is it me?
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  Speaker 3: No, I look, we've kicked around the idea that maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's just an older team and, and they don't have
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  Speaker 3: that gear in them.
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  Speaker 2: But they have it on the road. I saw it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that gear.
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  Speaker 5: I saw.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: See, they lost, but did they play with energy and intensity?
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, something happens here. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what that something is, but I've noticed it through six games.
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  Speaker 2: The home court advantage, you know, they've sold out that
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  Speaker 2: court 165 straight times. That's a record that may never
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  Speaker 2: be broken. And county.
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  Speaker 5: The Avs this season, the road has been an issue,
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  Speaker 5: but they're 6-1-0 at home. The Avs are. You got
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  Speaker 5: to take advantage.
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  Speaker 2: When you have that many consecutive sellouts and the fans
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  Speaker 2: are there, you say what you want about the fans.
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  Speaker 2: They are there to support you when you warrant it.
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  Speaker 2: And last night, they built a 12-point lead, built a
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  Speaker 2: 10-point lead on a couple occasions, and just couldn't put
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  Speaker 2: the game away.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to something, Vic. They played
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  Speaker 3: six games this year. They've played, I think, two games
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  Speaker 3: that you would consider good all-around games. And that was
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  Speaker 3: on the road the second time against New Orleans. And
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  Speaker 3: that was on the road Friday against Phoenix. There's a theme. Jokic,
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  Speaker 3: in those two games, attempted 1-3. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 3: he can't shoot threes, but there's a massive difference when
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  Speaker 3: Jokic is taking seven, eight threes a night. They just
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  Speaker 3: don't play very well, especially on the offensive side. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you go back, the game against OKC, he took seven.
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  Speaker 3: That was a bad offensive game. Bad game overall. In
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  Speaker 3: the win, the first game against New Orleans, he took 10. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they won the game, but they were terrible in that game.
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  Speaker 3: In the Golden State loss, he took six. In the
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  Speaker 3: game last night, he took seven. There just seems to
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  Speaker 3: be something about if he's taking a lot of threes,
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  Speaker 3: then it's either he recognizes there's a problem or I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I don't care and I'm not paid to go
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  Speaker 2: fix the problem. I could just give you the numbers
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  Speaker 2: that describe the problem. And it's very easy for me.
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  Speaker 2: On the road, okay, three road games, the Denver Nuggets
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  Speaker 2: are allowing just over 100 points a game. 102 on
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  Speaker 2: the road. At home, it's almost 130. Think about that
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  Speaker 2: for a second. Nearly a 30-point discrepancy home and away
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  Speaker 2: in points allowed? And you can't tell me it's just
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  Speaker 2: the opponent. You can't tell me that. That's just something's
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  Speaker 2: breaking down, and that's an energy thing. Again, You can
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  Speaker 2: listen to me say this until I'm blue in the face.
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  Speaker 2: Everything I'm saying is what David Adleman told the media
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  Speaker 2: last night after the game. Now they've got to fix it.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to Coach Adleman after last night's loss.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 8: I thought those two guys tried to make plays. We
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  Speaker 8: need other creation from other people. You know, you run something.
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  Speaker 8: If the ball finds you, there's a reason. You know,
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  Speaker 8: they bring three people to two. I've said this before.
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  Speaker 8: I have extreme confidence in all these guys.
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  Speaker 5: What CB did the.
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  Speaker 8: Other night in Phoenix. people have to think that every
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  Speaker 8: night is going to be their night like he did.
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  Speaker 8: as opposed to turning things down, driving the ball back
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  Speaker 8: into traffic.
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  Speaker 2: We end up with.
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  Speaker 8: 26 threes, but that's really a lie. I think we
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  Speaker 8: were at 14, middle of the fourth, and I just
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  Speaker 8: thought confidence has to be there. If those guys create it,
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  Speaker 8: you have to live off that and live with the result.
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  Speaker 8: as opposed to throwing the ball right back to them.
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  Speaker 8: And now they're up against the clock, taking tough shots.
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  Speaker 2: So he's talking about Joker and Jamal getting their shots up,
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  Speaker 2: because they have. Now, Joker's not shooting to the percentage
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  Speaker 2: we're used to seeing him shoot. You referenced that already, clearly.
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  Speaker 2: But he's putting the shots up, at least. Jamal is
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  Speaker 2: not only putting the shots up, he's been hot lava.
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  Speaker 2: He's off to his best start in his history. He
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  Speaker 2: is scoring in droves. He's shooting over 50% from three.
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  Speaker 2: What he's doing is phenomenal. So those two guys are
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  Speaker 2: putting up all the shots. Is anyone else going to shoot?
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  Speaker 2: Christian Brown has increased his shot capacity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you've seen it. He shot seven threes last night,
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  Speaker 2: made four of them.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Seven field goals, made four of them. Won three. But
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  Speaker 2: where's the shots from A.G. and Cam Johnson? They're not
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  Speaker 2: putting up the shots. The coach just said it. Someone...
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  Speaker 2: Needs to shoot.
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  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson, just based off of my untrained eye, we
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  Speaker 3: won't see him putting up shots in that four- to
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  Speaker 3: six-week range. That looks like a re-evaluated in four to
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  Speaker 3: six weeks. I mean, he just got back on the floor. But, Vic,
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  Speaker 3: that wasn't, that wasn't, ow, that kind of hurt. That was, ow,
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  Speaker 3: I'm leaving immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's, I mean, listen, you don't have to be
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  Speaker 2: a trained medical expert to figure out that's going to
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  Speaker 2: take some time to heal. He couldn't even get up
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  Speaker 2: the court. You know what was sad about that play? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What was sad is Jamal hits that ridiculous corner three
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  Speaker 2: before the buzzer. They're still in the game. Cam can't move.
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  Speaker 2: He can't even walk 10 feet because he's hurting. And
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  Speaker 2: Portland hustles up the court and makes the three to
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  Speaker 2: basically put the game out of reach. Nobody took the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to foul.
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  Speaker 3: Was Jamal the only one? Jamal was screaming foul. Was
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  Speaker 3: he the only one who saw?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. That's very frustrating. It was.
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  Speaker 2: I'm frustrated. I'm not panicking yet because it's six games.
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  Speaker 2: It's six games. But if you're not frustrated, at least
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  Speaker 2: as a Nuggets fan, then you're not being real.
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  Speaker 5: You should be.
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  Speaker 2: And if they're not frustrated, they're not being real.
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  Speaker 9: Sorry.
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  Speaker 5: I talked to Brett about this earlier in the program.
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  Speaker 5: When you look at Trayvon Brazil's shooting percentage right now,
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  Speaker 5: it's pretty damn impressive. And I know he's not throwing
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  Speaker 5: up volume on his own. But he's shooting 56 percent
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  Speaker 5: from the floor. And as Brett calls him, he's a
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  Speaker 5: human pogo stick. Are we going to see? I know
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  Speaker 5: that your rotation is now screwed. I know that the
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  Speaker 5: bed coming off the bench is going to look way
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  Speaker 5: more different. But with him in a starting lineup for
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  Speaker 5: an extended period of time, if Cam is out and
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  Speaker 5: that's what I'm assuming the Nuggets are going to do,
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  Speaker 5: that's the route they're going to go. Yeah. Are we
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  Speaker 5: going to get a good sample size of what this
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  Speaker 5: kid can do if he throws up more buckets as well?
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  Speaker 3: He made a hell of a play before half, by
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  Speaker 3: the way. That steal and then dunk right before, what, 2.2
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  Speaker 3: left on the clock or something?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they just need more of those hustle
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  Speaker 2: plays that generate easy buckets. Because right now, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you guys get the same impression. Jason Richardson
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  Speaker 2: and Bill Hanslick and I, we were watching the Nuggets
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  Speaker 2: last night. And when you watch them on the offensive end.
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  Speaker 5: It looks hard.
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  Speaker 2: Like it looks hard.
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  Speaker 3: It's been that way for like a year and a half.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like, God, they got to do so much
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  Speaker 2: because nobody's taking open.
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  Speaker 5: It's just like, wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then Portland comes the other and they're just shooting open.
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  Speaker 5: They're just shooting.
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  Speaker 2: They're not. It's like no regard. We'll just shoot it.
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  Speaker 2: It looks too hard when it used to look easy. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: a second. I would like to recap the game from
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  Speaker 3: last night first, in which first minute of the game,
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  Speaker 3: you have an oopsie, which is a weird bouncing puck,
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  Speaker 3: They lost three straight road games heading into that Chicago
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: game last night. And so you start the game that way.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Then you go down two to nothing. And then you
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: get a goalie interference call that takes a goal off
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: the board. And you just kind of have this thought,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: is this going to be another one of these bleeping
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: games that you're just frustrated the whole time?
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: That's three things in the first half of the first
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: period where you're going, are you kidding me? McCar blocks
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: a shot, then it squirts to the side, and it just, again,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: like a curling rock, it just trickles over the goal line.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: You're like, you've got to be kidding me. And then
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Kadri has full control of the puck in the offensive zone,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: top of the circle, and it just floats away from
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: his stick. And Kancaroff and Bedard get out on a two-on-one.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: And if you listen to Jared Bednar, and he's right
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: because I've seen the Hawks play this year, one thing
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: they can do is skate. They've got a ton of
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: young legs that just go, and their rush game is
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: pretty damn good. That's where they can burn you. And
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: what do they do? They burn you. Then you come back,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: you think you score, and it's a disallowed goal. And
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: I don't... Look, man, I know it's a hard job.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I've been in the situation room in Toronto before. I've
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: been there. I've seen them work. They're very good at
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: what they do, and they're very diligent about it, and
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: there's consultation, all kinds of things. I just don't know
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: anymore what goalie interference is. I don't know what I
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: don't know. And if you listen to Jared Bednar in
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: the postgame, Nelly, I don't know if you have any
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: of those cuts or not. If the head coach of
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: the Colorado Avalanche doesn't know what goalie interference is anymore, well,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: then how the hell am I going to know what
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: goalie interference is? Do you know what I mean? How
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: am I supposed to know if he doesn't know?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Well, would you like to hear Connor McGahee's thoughts on
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: goalie interference? This is what he thinks.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: After I coached the challenge, it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Was determined there was goal-tearing interference.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: I don't believe it. I honestly don't believe it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: That's a complete.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: That's ridiculous.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: What are we doing?
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: What are we doing in the National Hockey League? Landeskog
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: is outside the blue paint, and then Spencer Knight leans
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: his head out of the crease. Do we want to
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: allow goals in the National Hockey League or not?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Do we want to err.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: On the side of goal scoring and entertainment or not?
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: The Avalanche did everything right in that sequence. Every single
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: thing they did right. Landis Gogg was barely, barely there.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: It was Spencer Knight who put his head into the
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: white paint atop the crease. That should be a good
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: goal every single day.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Of the week and twice on Monday.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I still, I'm telling you, I love the radio guy
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: is so mad about the call. You hear play going
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: on in the background. He's like, no, no, no. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: got to finish my thought first.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I don't give a rat's rip. Riker was the same way.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I love it. I just sort of. I love it. Yeah. So, Moshe,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: let me ask you this. I actually sat back. I
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: actually sat back over the side going, okay. Take over, dude.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: So Riker essentially did what Connor did, too. And I
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: think they're correct. I don't know what I don't know.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Why is the goalie interference issue such an issue of late?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Where has it been for the first hundred years of hockey?
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Why is it an issue now?
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I just think that it's gotten more nuanced, Vic, over time.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: And I think that they... allowed things and not allowed
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: things and it used to just be hey if you
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: touch the goalie it's no goal or you know whatever
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: And then over time, I think teams started to complain, well,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: it didn't affect the play whatsoever. And then so they
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: started to veer in that direction.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: So simplify the rule. Simplify the damn rule. You're right.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: The nuanced layers to it. This and that. If you're
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: in here and there. How about this? How about this?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: If you touch the guy, you touch the guy. Big
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: freaking deal.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Well, but do you touch the guy? You pushed into
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: the guy. Does the guy touch you? Spencer and I,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: what he's trying to do on the play. So why
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: wasn't that an issue 20 years ago? This is what's
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: so aggravating.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I bring this up again. Why wasn't this an issue
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: growing up watching hockey? They didn't have replay.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Because they had crease rules. You couldn't even be in
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: the crease. So bring them back. They didn't have replay.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Exactly right. So let me explain. So Knight's here looking
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: for the puck, and he actually leans. He's trying to
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: look around Landy's big butt, right? He's trying to look around.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: He kind of sticks his head out, and that's when
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: there's a brush on the face mask. But the puck
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: comes over here. He's completely leaning the wrong way. Even if,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, if Landy never was even there, or if
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: he's a foot in front, he's looking the wrong way
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: for the puck, and he's looking to his left, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: it goes by his right. Anyway, let me get to
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: the good part here. They score two goals in 26 seconds.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Kadri dives for that loose puck, pokes it in, and
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: then Schwartz just rips one off the cheater on the blocker,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: and then off the hip and into the net. So
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: you're tied at two after one. You outshot them 14-4,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: and then you just go and you kick more butt.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Kadri with a power play goal on the redirect. Schwartz
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: gets another tally on a redirect as well, paying the
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: price in front. And then Devontaeves, of course, pots the
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: empty netter from 175 feet, and you skate out with
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: a 5-2 win. That's the way it... The Avs basically said,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: you know what? Enough of this crap. Let's go. And
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: that's exactly what they did.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, um... Great point from a texture, by the way,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: and I've been meaning to bring this up. I can't,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: as everybody who lives in this great state, in this
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: great city that we live in, I can't do the
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Frank Nazar thing. I can't do it. Frank Nazar, he's
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: a center for the Blackhawks.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about Frank Azar.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Well, that's my point, is every time you hear it,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: that's all you think of. In fact, I think this
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: is still when Marty was here. Didn't he block a
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: shot or he had a deflected goal that went in
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: off his butt and we called him Frank Nazar the
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: strong ass? Wasn't that a thing that we did?
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Maybe. I don't recall, but we could have. I don't remember.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Point is, I can't do it with this guy. I
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: can't do it, Mo.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Did you see his double doink? Yeah. Yeah. Vic, he
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: had a backhand top shelf. He dangled. It had a
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: backhand top shelf double doink that didn't go in. It went...
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: It went crossbar, goal line, post, and out. It was unbelievable. But, yeah,
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: I know. I think the same thing the entire game
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: when I'm calling it, Brett. I can't help think. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: almost said strong arm, but I'm like, no, I don't
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: want to go that route. I'm just going to try
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: to call it pretty straight ahead. But I thought that. Hey,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: by the way, we do have Jared Bednar talking about
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: goalie interference. Now, this is what the coach says. So
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: how the heck are we supposed to know? Go ahead, Nelly.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: What did you see on the goalie interference thing?
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: It's not even worth me talking about it. You know
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: what I'm going to say. I mean, if I see contact,
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: then I'd say, yeah, okay, goal interference. But I don't
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: see it, so whatever. I just do it how they
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: see it, and it's never consistent.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: He's done. He can't even go there. You know you've
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: reached a point of no return. Yeah, I don't. Yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: it's not even.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Coach Bednar, what do you think?
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: I can't even look at your face. I can't even look.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: What do you think of the overturned goal call?
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I don't speak English.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: It's not even worth me talking about it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Okay. All right. So here we are.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I asked the question again, if the rule is so
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: nuanced now that every time it happens, we have these
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: debates on talk radio and coaches don't get it. Players
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: don't get it. Analysts don't get it. Then simplify the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: damn rule. Simplify the damn rule. Go back to if
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: there's any skate in the crease at any time during
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the goal, no goal.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: But we also do this. Like it's the same thing
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: we talk about with catches in the NFL and stuff
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: like that. I mean, there has to be, It's just
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: the fact that it gets reviewed. I mean, that's the problem.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: So you're blaming replay?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you asked why didn't this happen 20 years ago
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: because they didn't review goals.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's why. But they had different rules. They
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: relaxed the rules a little bit.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm saying don't relax the rules because otherwise we're
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: going to have this all the time.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I think to me it's very simple. If you get forced,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: if you're sitting in front trying to create a screen
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and a player on the opposing team pushes you into
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: his own goalie, that's not on you. It's on that guy.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Well, Johnny Lyles had a great breakdown last night of
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: Porter Martone getting pushed into the abs crease in Philadelphia.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: And the young kid scored the goal to a half-empty
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: goal mouth. And it was called a good goal.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: Mitchkoff.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: It was called a good goal. And from what I
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: saw last night, it was... It was far less egregious,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: and it's called not a good goal. So, Vic, on
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: a game-by-game basis, it's a dichotomy. And not only that,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: but it feels like the Avs can't even win any
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: challenge anymore. They just can't win anymore at all. They
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: used to be awesome at it. Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I don't like the term goal.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: And maybe somebody's got to burn their saddle for Landy,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: but I don't know. Landy never gets the benefit of
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: the doubt. No.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Mosher, you've got to stop using the term goal mouth
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: out of your filthy mouth. Just don't like goal mouth.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: So just stop with that. No more gold mouth. Not
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: out of your mouth. Maybe gold mouth, but not mouth.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So just stop it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: If somebody says you guys.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Keep talking about a mouth that you don't like.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: We keep talking over each other because Mosier's stupid little
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: comrex is delayed again. I jump on the show for
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: a half hour and I'm already distressed. Your delay is
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: driving me crazy.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I got to tell you, Vic. Me and Moshe
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: had a nice back and forth going.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Until you jumped on. Well, you can do a two-person show.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: You can do a two-person show. That's easy because you
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: just wait for him to talk. But when there's three
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: people involved and he's on a two-second delay, I just
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: can't do it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know how insulting he is going to make
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: this a better segment.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: I am currently in Columbus, Ohio. Now, I don't know
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: how they do things in the Midwest. I don't spend
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: a whole lot of time in Ohio. My kid lives
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: in Ohio. She goes to school in Ohio. But I
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: don't really know a ton about the state. It's possible
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: that their internet has been purchased from El Salvador. I
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: don't know, okay? So I'm trying my best on my
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: old school Comrex because mine's in the shop getting a tune-up.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: I'm trying on the old school texture. I apologize if
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: we're talking over each other. No, it's okay.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: It's not your fault.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: But they just understand. It's okay.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: It's everything's okay.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: It's not your fault. It's not your fault.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You don't have to give us your entire... I wake
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: up in the morning.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: It's not your fault.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: I get up on four hours sleep, man.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Just do me a favor and stop using the term.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: I have coffee, man.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Stop saying goal mouth.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: All right, can we do another piece of business here,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: which is this? Do whatever it takes to win!
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• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Five o'clock tonight, Avs and Blue Jackets in Columbus, Moshe.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: We are going to see, for the first time... Our
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: old buddy, Val Nachushkin. Do you recall that he plays
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: for the Columbus Blue Jackets now? Do you recall that?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I remember him.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Okay. So our old buddy Val is here. Also, you
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: know who else is? Charlie Coyle is a Columbus Blue Jacket,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: which is interesting. Nonetheless, here's what the Jackets' problem is.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: They've lost two in a row. They're a 5-7 hockey club.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: They really cannot score the puck. They average two goals
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: per game. They just can't put the puck in the
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: back of the net on a consistent basis. Meanwhile, the
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Avs have three straight wins by equal 5-2 scores. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: it's pretty interesting. The Avs offense is still number one
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: in the National Hockey League. You don't even have to
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: get to five, but if you can get to four
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: on Cam Talbot or whoever starts the game tonight, that
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: is your key. You get to four, you are going
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: to win the game. And you average over four goals
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: per game tonight. It shouldn't be that big of an issue. Oh,
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: one more thing. My pregame interview last night was with
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Scott Wedgwood, and I said, okay, you're going to play.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: He goes, look, in my lifetime, I played a ton
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: of the second of back-to-backs. He goes, the key for
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: me tonight, or tomorrow night is what he said last night,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: is to give the boys a couple of big saves
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: early on so they know they're in the game and
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: they can get their legs underneath them, and then we go.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: And I said, that is a hell of an answer
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: from a goalie. Those are your keys to the game,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: so put that in your pipe and smoke it, Kane. Okay.
• 29:19
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  Speaker 3: by Ramos Law. So just with a couple of minutes here,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: we were talking earlier, Vic, and it was Adam Schefter
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I heard Dan Graziano talking about this said hey I
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: really like what I've seen from Jonah Coleman with the
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Denver Broncos maybe they don't need to make a trade
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: for a Jonathan Taylor or something like that I still
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: think a week away from the deadline I want to
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: see something happen I just think you're in this position, man.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: You feel every bit a Super Bowl contending team. I
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: want to see you go for it. I do. And
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: maybe it's not him. Maybe it's Brees Hall out in
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: New York. Maybe it's somebody else. I just want to
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: see something happen because you need to get help in
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: some areas. And I think the running game is one
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: of them. You know, I think we get a little
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: bit skewed by the big screen pass that went for
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: 50 yards with Jonah Coleman. You have a big problem
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: here in that J.K. Dobbins, and this is the disappointing part.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I thought he'd come into that game fired up. I
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: thought he'd be ready to go after his back and
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: forth with Mike Kliss and now R.J. Harvey on IR.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: And seven carries for 13 yards didn't bring a lot
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: of faith moving forward. And I know that Sean Payton
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: likes to have a multifaceted backfield.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You just have to use it. If you have it,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: you've got to use it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Right?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: When you have that sports car, you can't keep it
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: in the garage.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: You've got to use it.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: How many games this year have the Broncos rushed the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: ball more than they've passed it?
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: One. Is it just one? Okay.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer is one. So I'm not saying you
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: have to do that every game. Certainly if you're training,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: you don't do that. But if that's your... Let me
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: ask you this. Let me ask it another way. If
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the Broncos had played in that rainstorm in Tampa Bay,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: do you think they'd attempt three passes?
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the Atlanta Falcons didn't, and they threw
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: four picks.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But that just goes to show you, when you have
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: that kind of run game, right? When you have that
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: kind of run game, what an advantage. Imagine, just imagine
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: for a moment, if the Broncos had a competent run
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: game last year in the AFC Championship.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I know. Well, you'd be in the Super Bowl with
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Jarrett Stidham as your starter, is what would happen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So, you play for home field? Home field in Denver,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Colorado sometimes is going to attract bad weather. Sometimes you're
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: going to get nasty weather. So if that's what's at stake,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: doesn't it figure you make sure that run game is
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: ready for the weather?
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: You'd hope.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: You can listen to us anywhere in the world on
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: the Altitude Sports Radio app. It is powered by the
• 32:09
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• 32:13
  Speaker 3: We'll get a fact checker next.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Mark Mosier, the slob in the tobacco-stained dress shirt, dining
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: like day-old gas station glizzies or gourmet cuisine.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Mark Mosier is too greasy for Colorado.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Vote for Coach. Clean, caring, and calculated.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Vote for Coach Sanford.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: This is Coach Sanford, and damn right, I approve this message.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys a question.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man. Stop one second. During
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: commercial breaks, I want to let you guys in on
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: a little something-something. I'm tired. I only get a couple
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: hours of nap, then I got to get to the
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: rink today. We can't go east for back-to-backs anymore. The
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: league's got to do something about that because I can't
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: take it. That being said, I've been steaming my pants.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Trying to steam my pants during commercial breaks. And it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: not an easy thing to do when you're trying to
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: steam pants in the span of four and a half
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: minutes and the iron won't cooperate. I just want to
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: let you know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's amazing. I regret coming on the show.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: He's been fine. It's like you are some sort of thing, Vic.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: He hasn't done that really all day.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I regret it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And it's something about you being here that forces him
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: into doing things like this.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but that's, I mean...
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Fully regret me getting out of bed to try to
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: struggle through this.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Broncos don't play until Sunday, so f * * * that.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Can I go back to the question I wanted to
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: ask you guys, which was this? Are the Bears the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: best team in the NFL?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you this.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: It's so funny.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Coming out of break after watching, just glancing at the
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: screen last night, to beat Seattle the way they did
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and to do it in Seattle?
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, is that offense exciting or what? Is Caleb
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Williams exciting to watch? Now, when you watch that team,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the wow moments, is that fun to watch or not?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, there's something. When Caleb's been healthy,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: that team is a monster. He had one bad game,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: and that was the game that they lost 9-3 to Minnesota,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: in which it was the game he left late with
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: the hamstring, right? But in that game, if you remember,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: that was a monsoon. It was raining its bleep off.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: It was crazy. So that made it difficult enough to
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: try and score. But the point is, I had questions
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: about Caleb Williams after last year for one reason. Caleb Williams,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: it's hard to even think of right now. He finished
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: last season completing 58% of his passes. Boys, if you're
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback and you're completing at least 60, there's
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: a problem here. He's now completing 71% this year. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: just saw a stat. His off-target percentage of his throws
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: was like at 30% last year. It's down to 12. Like,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: how did he get that accurate over the course of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: a single offseason?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: He's matured. You know what? I liken it to he
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: has figured out the pace of the NFL now. It
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: took him a little while. It takes every quarterback time.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: He's developed that pacing now.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: He has. It also goes back to this. I think
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: for Bears fans, they should be lucky that Iberflues didn't
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: ruin him in his rookie year, but Ben Johnson also
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: is a really good offensive mind, and those two have
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: really meshed well together. His talents are coming through, so yeah,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: they might be, and I'll tell you this. I could have,
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: last night in Chicago, we're in Chicago, every security person
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: is like sitting in their chair watching the Bears game
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: as I'm walking around the rink, and I'm like, You
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: could have snuck in an army of elephants and nobody
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: would notice. It was hysterical. Everybody's like, ah, they're beating
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: the snot out of the Seahawks.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: There was an eruption of joy that happened midway through
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. The Nuggets came out. I'm like, what
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: is going on? And there's a bunch of people hanging
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: out watching that same game. So it is, you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the Bears are, if they continue at this pace, There's
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of Chicago people that can't wait to go
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: for it, man, because that team is good. It's a
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: good football team.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Here's what else is crazy. We've asked the question, guys,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: we're about halfway through the season now. If the season
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: ended today, the NFC North gets every team in their
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: division into the playoffs. And a huge part of that
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: is the NFC North just has really good teams. The
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: worst team in the North is the Packers, and they're
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: still pretty damn good. But the rest of the NFC
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: is so bad. that the only teams that could fight
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: for a playoff spot, I mean, you guys tell me
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: if I'm wrong here.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Go look.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: It's the 4-4 Seahawks or it's the 4-4 Rams if
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: either of those teams get hot. If they don't, the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: NFC North is getting four teams in the postseason. It's crazy.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I think you're right. I think you're absolutely right.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: It's the Bears, the Lions, and the Vikings that are
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: probably going to be fighting for the winner of that division.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: If I had to put a favorite on it right now,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's probably Chicago with how they're playing. But
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: it's crazy, man. Like, that entire division is filled with behemoths. Like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the AFC North have good teams, too. But some of
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: those teams are flawed. There's not a lot of flaws
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: within the NFC North. And think about this. The Packers
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: just reactivated or they designated Micah Parsons for return this week.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: He should be a huge help to their defense. It's
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: a monster of a division.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: That was a fun game last night. Tonight, we will
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: get our first BCS college football poll, and it'll start
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: lining these teams up, right? And everyone's going to pay
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: attention on Tuesday evenings from here on out because they've
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: got to select the final 12. But big game clearly
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: this weekend, Miami-Notre Dame. I've got a fact for you
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: guys that's going to blow you out of the water. Moshe,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: do you want to be blown out of whatever water
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you might encounter today, maybe ice water? Listen to this.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: On Saturday, when the Irish host Miami Hurricanes, I'm going
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: to give you two players. One is Notre Dame freshman
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: running back Jonas Walton, and the other one is Miami
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: senior Muhammad Torrey. Just to tell you what happened to
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: college football, Jonas Walton was in the fifth grade when
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Muhammad Torrey first started playing college football. No way.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I repeat. That's not possible.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you how it's possible. Let me tell
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: you how it's possible. Muhammad Torrey is in his eighth
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: year of college football. He's made it a full medical degree,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: a doctorate. He's in his eighth year of college football.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Started at Rutgers in 2019. He had two medical redshirts.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Then he had a COVID year. I don't know anything
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: else on top of that. But he's in his eighth
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: year of college football playing for the Canes now. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: on the field, you're going to have a dude that's
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: tackling another dude who was in the fifth grade when
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the tackler started playing the game.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: What is going on?
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I have another question for you regarding the rankings tonight
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: because we don't know what's going to happen. But if
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: you're part of the committee, Vic, what is more important
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: to you?
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: And I'll give you an example.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Is it what?
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Your record is.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Or is it what you think the team can be?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: And here's what I mean.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: That's a great point.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Ohio State just lost their second game of the year.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: They very well might lose another one and get to
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: three losses by the end of the season with Julian
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: saying out because that offense is not the same without him.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: If Julian Sane comes back around playoff time, do you
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: evaluate Ohio State as how they played with Julian Sane
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: or what their record is?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: No, thems are the breaks. I'm fast and hard with
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: all these rules. I consider head-to-head the most important. And,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you know, when I look at polls, for example, I'll
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: say this right now. BYU beat Notre Dame head-to-head. Now,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you may not like the results or whatever, but they
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: deserve to be ahead of Notre Dame head-to-head. They won
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: And that's the way it should be. If you beat
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: another team head-to-head and you share the same record, what
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: are we doing here? Why even play the game if
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean anything?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Because I know that's one thing that's going to happen
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: at the end of the year, maybe not so much
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: right now. But they'll play the game of, well, Ohio
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: State with Julian Sayan in was maybe the best team
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: in the country.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I call that the Alabama rule. Alabama gets the benefit
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: of the doubt all the time. All the time. But
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: if you have the same record as the other team
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and that team beat you, what else do you need?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: What other gauge? What other barometer is there?
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Well, those teams, the Big Ten and the SEC teams,
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: they do get the benefit of the doubt. I mean,
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: if Texas starts to win again, really win, and they're
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: a two-loss team at the end, they're getting it. And
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: you know they are. You know they are.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: There's two games this weekend that I think are– must
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: see television. And one of them is what Vic's talking about.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: It's Miami and Notre Dame. Obviously, that's going to be
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the big one of all the eyeballs. 530 NBC.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Utah and BYU is a huge game because Utah right
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: now is number three in the country in the coaches poll.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, guys. I don't know what to
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: quite think of Utah. All I know is this. They
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: are so fundamentally sound. They do not make mistakes. And
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: They will just make the right play over and over again.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Devin Dampier is just one of those guys. He will
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: find a way to make a play when Utah needs
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: him to. I don't know if they do anything particularly special,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: but if you're looking for some team out of the
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Big 12 to emerge as a legitimate contender in the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: college football playoff, I think it's them. The other teams,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I think all of them have flaws. BYU is a
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: good football team, but I don't know if they have
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: enough firepower to keep up. Texas Tech, they just changed
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks last week. That Castellanos guy looked a little bit better.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Brett, I find it almost impossible to rank these teams
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: right now. I know. It's a no-win situation, and I
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: almost feel bad for the committee because you're going to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: elicit some sort of, oh, these.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: Are corrupt people.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: You can't do it. You can't do it until you
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: get to the end of the year and you see
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the whole menu in front of you. We only have
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: half the menu right now.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this right now because of all
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the flaws. Who's the Heisman?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Who's the Heisman trophy winner? That's a good question. It
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean what it used to mean.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, do you really?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: And I say this with all due respect. Do you
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: really care?
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: No, but it's usually been pretty obvious.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Moshe.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Well, do you recall when they were in the Pac-12
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: that the Pac-12 tried to make Colorado and Utah a rivalry?
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Do you recall that? Mm-hmm. Like, oh, yeah, Rocky Mountain Rock. No, no, no, no, no.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: The Big 12 now with BYU and Utah. Those two
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: schools hate each other. I mean, they frigging hate each other.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: This is going to be a hell of a battle
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: in Salt Lake City. I'm really looking forward to that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: By the way, that BYU-Utah game is going to be
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: on 950 on Saturday morning. If I said Malachi Toney.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Totally bitching.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Malachi Toney Heisman.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: He's a candidate for sure. That dude's a stud.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: So I've made this comparison before. What do you guys
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: think of this? Is Malachi Toney another guy that used
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: to play not for Miami, but in the state of
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Florida in college? Is he like Percy Harvin? He's got
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: a little bit of that stuff. Smaller, stocky. If he
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: gets the ball in space, he's a problem. He can
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: run it out of the backfield if you want him to.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: He's versatile. That dude's incredible, man. He's the reason why
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: they didn't get upset by North Carolina.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: I totally agree.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Magic happens when he has the ball in his hands,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: and he catches everything.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And he's tough.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: That's a tough hombre.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I think a sophomore, too.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he opened up the season. I mean, he burst
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: onto the season.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: He was.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: He came on this year, and he's never looked back.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Malachi Toney's a sophomore. He was in the sixth grade
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: when his teammate started playing college football.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Hi, Dad.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. You mentioned this earlier. Robinson Cano having
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: a 16-year-old at 44 years old is not weird, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: it's weird that Robinson Cano has a kid that's playing
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: baseball and is almost an adult. I'm just saying.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Dude, the craziest of all time was Frank Gore in
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the running back position for him to last that long
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: to have a kid. Remember that?
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: He was a year off from playing in the NFL
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: with him.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get a fact checker, please, Nellie.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Nelly monitors the mistakes in today's Fact Checker.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: Fact Checker!
• 44:53
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• 45:02
  Speaker 10: Mosher, I know it's been a rough morning for you
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: because of time zones and the travel and Gary Bettman
• 45:08
  Speaker 10: and all that good stuff. But let me give you
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: a little bit of credit here. Earlier this segment, I
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: heard you. You almost let something slip, and you caught
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: yourself at the very last second.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I got a fact for you guys that's going to
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: blow you out of the water. Moshe, do you want
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: to be blown out of whatever water you might encounter today?
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe ice water? Listen to this.
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Sure. That close, brother. That close.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: There were two more letters that you were going to
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: attach on top of that with a me at the
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: end of it. While you're down there, would you mind?
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: While you're down there, would you? Okay. Exactly right.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Good save, Moshe. All right. The Avs back at it tonight.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Second leg of a back-to-back. 5 o'clock right here on
• 45:51
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• 45:54
  Speaker 3: all powered by Ramos Law. So hopefully we come away with,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: let me just do this, a little cleaner start tonight.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I don't want to come back from two down.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. You know, Big Val has six points on
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: the season, one goal and five assists. They just can't,
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: they can't score the puck really well here in Columbus, Ohio.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see that change tonight. I want
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: to see Wedgie good early on and let's go, baby.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: All right, let's go. The abs historically have been very
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: good on the back to back.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Five o'clock right here. Altitude Sports Radio 92.5. Have a
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: wonderful Tuesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: Love you. See you.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Mos, do you want to be blown out of whatever
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: water you might encounter today? Maybe ice water. Listen to this.
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: Sure.