Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Should My Construction Company Help Build a Casino?
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- 0:03Speaker 1: We're now about a dozen years into the podcast. For
- 0:06Speaker 1: eleven and a half years of podcasting, to be more exact,
- 0:09Speaker 1: we have talked a lot about work over those years.
- 0:13Speaker 1: We've talked about career building and finding our vocational calling,
- 0:17Speaker 1: how to glorify God at work, and on the issues
- 0:20Speaker 1: of when to leave a job, and how to avoid
- 0:23Speaker 1: overworking and idolizing a career, and issues of laziness and
- 0:27Speaker 1: personal productivity and how do you define all those things?
- 0:30Speaker 1: Many huge issues in our past that have been covered,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and I tried to write those up into a digest
- 0:35Speaker 1: in the Aspastro John book on pages sixty seven to
- 0:38Speaker 1: ninety four if you want to see the ground that
- 0:40Speaker 1: we've covered in that section and in this podcast, we've
- 0:44Speaker 1: also taken up the question of what vocations are worthy
- 0:47Speaker 1: of the Christian and which ones are not worthy of
- 0:50Speaker 1: the Christian. A marketer at Nike wants emailed in to
- 0:54Speaker 1: ask of his job marketing luxury goods to people who
- 0:59Speaker 1: don't need them but want them. Was that life vein
- 1:03Speaker 1: You might remember that episode in ABJ fifteen nineteen that
- 1:05Speaker 1: comes to my mind. We're back on a similar topic
- 1:08Speaker 1: today in today's question from an anonymous man, Tello Pastor John.
- 1:12Speaker 1: I am a building contractor and in my region recently
- 1:15Speaker 1: I was asked to join up with a construction partner
- 1:17Speaker 1: I've worked with before and what I really like and
- 1:19Speaker 1: enjoy working with, to help complete one of their own projects.
- 1:23Speaker 1: The project is a Mormon temple. Is this out of
- 1:27Speaker 1: the question for a Christian who leads a construction crew
- 1:30Speaker 1: to consider working on such a project like a temple
- 1:33Speaker 1: like this, or even a mosque or a casino or
- 1:35Speaker 1: other things like that? How should I think through making
- 1:39Speaker 1: this moral decision on behalf of the crew I lead?
- 1:44Speaker 2: Probably I should start where I'm going to end, namely
- 1:47Speaker 2: by saying that this is the kind of question that
- 1:50Speaker 2: has enough layers of ambiguity that I should not be
- 1:55Speaker 2: dogmatic but admit that good Christians believing the same Bible
- 2:02Speaker 2: may come to different conclusions. There are just so many
- 2:06Speaker 2: aspects to take into consideration. But having said that, let
- 2:11Speaker 2: me spell out maybe four or five principles or thoughts
- 2:17Speaker 2: that I hope will give some guidance to the consciences
- 2:21Speaker 2: of God's people. The first thing I feel constrained to
- 2:26Speaker 2: say is that believing in the reality of Hell the
- 2:31Speaker 2: way Jesus does and he's more explicit on this in
- 2:34Speaker 2: the Bible than anybody. Gives a kind of seriousness to
- 2:39Speaker 2: most questions, especially questions like this. It just makes things
- 2:44Speaker 2: so serious. And I mentioned this because Christians who keep
- 2:48Speaker 2: the reality of Hell out of their minds and sometimes
- 2:53Speaker 2: are not even sure they believe in it, those folks
- 2:57Speaker 2: simply won't feel the way that I feel in answering
- 3:02Speaker 2: a question like this, Because when I think of a
- 3:06Speaker 2: question like this, one of the questions I ask is
- 3:10Speaker 2: is this building that I'm working on going to be
- 3:13Speaker 2: devoted to beliefs and activities which lead to eternal destruction?
- 3:19Speaker 2: Some people don't even raise that question in trying to
- 3:22Speaker 2: do ethics. I'm asking the eternal question about what becomes
- 3:26Speaker 2: of human beings when they participate in what this building
- 3:30Speaker 2: is for A person who doesn't think about Hell just
- 3:34Speaker 2: won't take it that seriously, and therefore the question doesn't
- 3:38Speaker 2: have the same weight that it does for me. That's
- 3:40Speaker 2: the first thing I think I should draw attention to.
- 3:44Speaker 2: The second thing would be to draw attention to the
- 3:49Speaker 2: fact that there are many more applications for the ethical
- 3:55Speaker 2: issue at stake here than just building a Mormon religious house.
- 4:00Speaker 2: What about building an abortion clinic for planned parenthood. What
- 4:03Speaker 2: about building a mosque for Muslims? What about building a
- 4:07Speaker 2: brothel in a red light district? What about building a
- 4:11Speaker 2: casino in northern Minnesota that you know is going to
- 4:15Speaker 2: soak the meager savings of many poor people and continually
- 4:19Speaker 2: divert their attention away from a healthy, productive life. What
- 4:23Speaker 2: about building a room in somebody's attic without taking out
- 4:27Speaker 2: a permit so that they can avoid fees from the city.
- 4:31Speaker 2: What about building a meeting space for the central committee
- 4:34Speaker 2: of the political party that makes child killing and homosexual
- 4:37Speaker 2: behavior a matter of celebration. What about building a bar
- 4:42Speaker 2: and a nightclub that includes strip tease performances? What about
- 4:46Speaker 2: providing fixtures, doors, countertops, lights, tile for any of those structures?
- 4:53Speaker 2: And though this goes on and on, so this question
- 4:57Speaker 2: has a much broader relevance and layers of complexity than
- 5:02Speaker 2: one might think. Another thing to take into account here
- 5:06Speaker 2: is the degree to which the structure you're working on
- 5:10Speaker 2: not only will be the place where evil happens, but
- 5:15Speaker 2: rather also the place designed and intended for evil to happen.
- 5:22Speaker 2: That's the purpose of the structure. Evil is not incidental here,
- 5:28Speaker 2: but integral. Now, hardly any building anywhere is free from evil, right,
- 5:34Speaker 2: I mean, you can't build anything where evil's not going
- 5:37Speaker 2: to happen. Evil happens everywhere in every structure. So the
- 5:42Speaker 2: morally relevant question when it comes to participation in the
- 5:46Speaker 2: building of structure is whether that's the intention of the structure,
- 5:50Speaker 2: that's the reason it exists. So here's another factor to
- 5:55Speaker 2: take into account. To what degree does the person involved
- 5:59Speaker 2: in building the structure know what is involved in it,
- 6:04Speaker 2: know what the intention is? Or to say differently, Given
- 6:09Speaker 2: what a person knows, a builder knows, a construction worker knows,
- 6:13Speaker 2: a provider knows, how clearly and substantially does his work
- 6:19Speaker 2: add to the construction of the structure he disapproves of.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Now that's complicated. Let me illustrate. If you work in
- 6:28Speaker 2: a factory that makes windows, We've got to be one
- 6:32Speaker 2: in Minnesota here. You may have no awareness at all
- 6:37Speaker 2: as you do your work in that factory that some
- 6:40Speaker 2: of these windows are being sold to a mosque or
- 6:42Speaker 2: a casino or an abortion clinic. This is not in
- 6:46Speaker 2: your mind at all as you go to work every
- 6:48Speaker 2: day and make a window. The causal connection between your
- 6:53Speaker 2: daily work and the purposes of those structures is so
- 6:57Speaker 2: remote that I think it is of little moral significance.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Your part is so remote that there is little moral
- 7:10Speaker 2: connection between them. Your part in the window factory is
- 7:14Speaker 2: not going to be seen as morally implicated by the
- 7:19Speaker 2: evil purposes of the buildings down the economic chain out
- 7:23Speaker 2: of your sight, then if it were part of what
- 7:28Speaker 2: you're immediately intending to help construct. So the principle that
- 7:34Speaker 2: is most explicit in the Bible, I think, and most
- 7:36Speaker 2: helpful in all of this, is in First Corinthians ten,
- 7:41Speaker 2: twenty seven and twenty eight, which may not sound like
- 7:45Speaker 2: a building text. Listen carefully. If one of the believers
- 7:48Speaker 2: invites you to a dinner, and you are disposed to
- 7:51Speaker 2: go eat whatever set before you without raising any question
- 7:55Speaker 2: on the ground of conscience. But if someone says to you,
- 7:59Speaker 2: this has been and offer it in sacrifice, then don't
- 8:02Speaker 2: eat it for the sake of the one who informs you,
- 8:04Speaker 2: and for conscience sake. In other words, if you don't
- 8:08Speaker 2: know that the food involves you in the support of
- 8:12Speaker 2: a pagan ritual, you can eat it. But if you
- 8:16Speaker 2: do know that this pagan ritual is what the host intends,
- 8:21Speaker 2: you won't eat it, So whether you eat or you
- 8:23Speaker 2: don't eat depends on whether you know what the eating
- 8:27Speaker 2: signifies about the false religion. It seems to me that
- 8:32Speaker 2: this same principle applies to building something that is devoted
- 8:36Speaker 2: to a false, destructive religion or lifestyle. So if you
- 8:41Speaker 2: don't know what the building is for, you are probably
- 8:45Speaker 2: not guilty for doing a good job in building it.
- 8:48Speaker 2: You're just doing the job to the glory of Christ
- 8:50Speaker 2: as best you can. But if you know that you
- 8:54Speaker 2: are involved in promoting a destructive religion or practiced, then
- 8:58Speaker 2: your participation may well be wrong. In fact, my inclination
- 9:04Speaker 2: would be to encourage the Christian builder and construction worker
- 9:10Speaker 2: provider not to be part of a building that is
- 9:16Speaker 2: widely known to be explicitly anti Christian. So I'm going
- 9:22Speaker 2: to end where I began. In general, I want to
- 9:26Speaker 2: encourage builders and workers not to contribute to structures devoted
- 9:31Speaker 2: to anti Christian beliefs and practices. But I realize that
- 9:35Speaker 2: the complexities of various situations are such that we should
- 9:41Speaker 2: be very careful not to pass judgment on a brother's
- 9:46Speaker 2: effort to make a biblically informed, conscientious decision.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Is this building that I'm working on going to be
- 9:54Speaker 1: devoted to beliefs and activities which lead to eternal destruction.
- 10:00Speaker 1: In question not always a question that can be easily answered,
- 10:02Speaker 1: but sometimes it can. Thank you Pastor John, and thanks
- 10:05Speaker 1: for joining us today. Have a question to ask Pastor John.
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- 10:20Speaker 1: we pray that God would teach someone a lesson to
- 10:23Speaker 1: disrupt and make their life hard in order to get
- 10:26Speaker 1: their attention? We're such a prayerful intent un Christian. That's
- 10:32Speaker 1: the question. Next, I'm Tony Ranky. We'll see how Monday