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Jaguars Happy Hour | Previewing Free Agency & Draft · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February nineteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: And now a guy who would have taken home gold
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  Speaker 1: if it wasn't for that French judge j.
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  Speaker 2: Chack.
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  Speaker 3: It's always the French judge. Welcome man, it is Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: Happy Hour. We are back baby, after the hiatus following
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  Speaker 3: the postseason run. We're back each week each Thursday, four
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  Speaker 3: o'clock here on tentinex LAM with Jaguars Happy Hour. And
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  Speaker 3: we are at the Honday studios at the Miller Electric Center.
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  Speaker 3: Test drive a Neue Hunday today only at your local
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  Speaker 3: Hondai dealer. Here's what's coming up on the show today.
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  Speaker 3: A franchise tag window is open, but will the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: use it. We'll get into that. Scouting combine is next
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  Speaker 3: week in Indianapolis. A little different feel for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: this year. They won't have leadership there. We'll get into
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  Speaker 3: that coming up a little bit. Free agent see the
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  Speaker 3: beginning March eleventh. We'll go through some of the players
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  Speaker 3: that are pending free agents for the Jaguars. J P.
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  Speaker 3: Shadwick with you. Jeff Logoman out this week. He'll be
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  Speaker 3: back with us on a regular basis Kai Nannie Steven steps.
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  Speaker 2: In pinch hitting today, you know what.
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  Speaker 3: And it's if we're ranking pinch hitters, you're right there
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  Speaker 3: at the top.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. So like I'm like the.
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  Speaker 3: First, Oh, you're a starter, extra, you're a starter. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let's begin with that.
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  Speaker 2: Like a role player, like I'm like la Quinn Allen
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  Speaker 2: coming into pass blocks and scream at everybody, like I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I have a very specific team more.
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  Speaker 3: You have some aggression, so you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I play the role I have to play, So.
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  Speaker 3: Do what you gotta do.
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  Speaker 2: Very exciting.
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  Speaker 3: That was a break and you guys had jag z
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  Speaker 3: Am this week.
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  Speaker 2: And we were back on Tuesday. But yeah, so we've
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  Speaker 2: all been off for about a month ish, which I
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  Speaker 2: think sometimes is nice to just have a little calm down.
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  Speaker 2: But now that it's off season, full swing again is
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  Speaker 2: going to be. We're right back in things. It's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit different this year. Obviously, we don't have coaching
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  Speaker 2: changes for time in a while. So for most of
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  Speaker 2: the years I've been here, we've had either new coordinators
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  Speaker 2: or a coaching search. Obviously head coach and everything else
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  Speaker 2: last year, so it's the first time. It's been calm
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  Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks, so it's been nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, no coaching changes. The coordinators didn't get the
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  Speaker 3: head coaching gigs they were interviewing for the quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: not a question mark anymore. There's no first round draft pick.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of weird, kind of different
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  Speaker 3: different for Jags fan. You made Jaguar things this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's nice to see other people all the coaching.
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  Speaker 2: There's ten other new head coaches across the NFL right
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  Speaker 2: now and a bajillion different coordinators. So for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: not only to have the same head coach and bring
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  Speaker 2: back both coordinators, that's pretty great.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it has been because of that. The
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  Speaker 3: season the Jaguars had thirteen and four. Of course going
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  Speaker 3: to the playoffs, they had some accolades and near wins
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  Speaker 3: in the postseason end of season awards ceremonies, the NFL honors.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Liam Cohen was like three votes away from
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  Speaker 3: Coach of the Year in the NFL this year.
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  Speaker 2: Coach of the Year was one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: you look at the cannon and almost anybody that won
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  Speaker 2: was going to be qualified in some way because every
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  Speaker 2: single I think most of them were either their first
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  Speaker 2: year or maybe second year with their team, and you
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  Speaker 2: know what Vrabel was able to do. Look at Ben Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen their first years with their new teams, like
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  Speaker 2: to make such big switches and not that I felt
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  Speaker 2: like ownership of teams were ever very patient. But now
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  Speaker 2: seeing all this success in the first year for some
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  Speaker 2: of these head coaches, I feel like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the coaching changes we saw this year, they're saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I want that, and I want it in one year.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see how it all plays out. But I
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  Speaker 2: certainly feel like everybody in Jacksonville feels very fortunate that
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  Speaker 2: we have Liam Cohen. He's obviously our coach of the Year.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, and it's supposed to be a
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  Speaker 2: regular season award too, so you don't really know if
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  Speaker 2: you know. Obviously the Patriots make a playoff run, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like maybe that has little something to do with it,
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  Speaker 2: but so it's be a regular season award. I felt
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  Speaker 2: like anybody that won it was going to be well
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  Speaker 2: worth when.
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  Speaker 3: The voting happens on ends the day after the regular
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  Speaker 3: season though, so in theory, the playoff run shouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: anything to do with it, but I like the fact that,
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  Speaker 3: you know what people's eyes are going to open to
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  Speaker 3: what Liam Cohen and this Jaguars team is all about,
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  Speaker 3: because it does feel like it's sustainable for the future
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  Speaker 3: moving in. It was kind of fun. That was everybody's
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  Speaker 3: on vacation, right, so kind of away from it, but
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  Speaker 3: occasionally a day or two you'd kind of watch it
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  Speaker 3: during the week leading up to the Super Bowl, radio
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  Speaker 3: Row stuff, and all of a sudden on that Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: there goes Liam Cohen on Radio Row and he's on
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  Speaker 3: the McAfee show, and he's doing all these things, and
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  Speaker 3: that's fun to see when the league starting to realize
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  Speaker 3: what's going on here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the last two months, when they got
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  Speaker 2: eight wins in a row to kind of cap off
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  Speaker 2: the regular season, it felt like it was becoming a
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  Speaker 2: little more national. You get the big win over the Broncos,
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  Speaker 2: and it felt like, no, not many people saw it
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  Speaker 2: because it wasn't on national TV per se, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of getting that recognition, getting a big win, and
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  Speaker 2: the way they finished the season, it felt like was
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  Speaker 2: a testament to all of that coming together at the
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  Speaker 2: right time. And I felt like they're getting more recognition
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  Speaker 2: as things went along. Trevor Lawrence too, just the way
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  Speaker 2: he played the last two months or so of the season,
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  Speaker 2: just seeing his like he was in the MVP running.
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  Speaker 2: But I felt like a lot of it was how
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  Speaker 2: he was playing down the stretch. And sometimes it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to kind of get over the hump when it's not
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  Speaker 2: a full season that people have been talking about you,
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  Speaker 2: so that can be tough. But just the way he
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  Speaker 2: was trending. Have to be happy and excited to see
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  Speaker 2: what the future is going to be.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he finished fifth in MVP voting. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if a Jaguars finished that high before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And and I mean this was halfway through the
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  Speaker 2: season and we were like the offense doesn't even work.
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  Speaker 3: Right right right, they can't line up right, everybody kidd
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't get in no illegal shifts all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: That was problematic. It feels like a lifetime ago, it
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  Speaker 2: really does. It feels like those were It almost feels
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  Speaker 2: like there's two separate seasons, like pre bye week, bye
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  Speaker 2: week and posts or post Texans game, even like just
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  Speaker 2: it was night and day and.
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  Speaker 3: Then sixteen it was a big reason why, and they
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  Speaker 3: made it. They had a couple of changes, obviously, Travis
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  Speaker 3: Hunter's injury unfortunately as it was brought in an addition
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  Speaker 3: wide receiver that calmed some things down, and from that
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  Speaker 3: point forward the offense looked a whole lot different than
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  Speaker 3: the defense. Made some changes after the fact as well,
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  Speaker 3: and really started to find traction after the break.
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  Speaker 2: It's something that you feel good about going to the
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  Speaker 2: off season, where feeling like you're going to bring back
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  Speaker 2: the same coaching staff that in my opinion, overachieved and
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  Speaker 2: what you expected your first year. I don't think any
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  Speaker 2: of us expected a record like that in your first season,
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  Speaker 2: first coaching staff, first year with this coaching staff, to
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  Speaker 2: come in win the division thirteen to four, higher than
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  Speaker 2: I thought. At least I think we talked maybe ten
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  Speaker 2: wins would be nice, something like that. So to get
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  Speaker 2: thirteen and four and do what they did, that to
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  Speaker 2: me exceeded my expectations. And then to now bring everybody
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  Speaker 2: back get a little more comfortable this second year. It's
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  Speaker 2: not somewhere new, trying to figure out where the bathroom is,
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  Speaker 2: how to get to the kitchen in the gym and
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  Speaker 2: all this. They know everything is they're settled and to
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  Speaker 2: kind of really get into the meat of it. And
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  Speaker 2: also this is their first full off seat together, right
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  Speaker 2: because they were still, you know, just getting a coach
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  Speaker 2: around this time last year, still trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: who their GM was gonna be. So this will be
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  Speaker 2: their first full year together.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to seeing what they do with all
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  Speaker 3: the business ahead on Tintin, xcel am, Jaguars dot com
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  Speaker 3: and Jaguars YouTube is Jaguars Happy Hour Back from the
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  Speaker 3: Hiatus JP Shadwick, Kayani Stevens. Glad you're with us, and
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  Speaker 3: the business of the offseason is underway. The franchise tag
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  Speaker 3: window is open. It is open through March third. If
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  Speaker 3: you want a franchise or transition tag a player. It's
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  Speaker 3: got a feeling that's probably not gonna happen around here.
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  Speaker 3: Free agency begins when the league year opens on March
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  Speaker 3: eleventh at four o'clock Eastern time, and there's a two
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  Speaker 3: day window leading into that for negotiation period, and of
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  Speaker 3: course at four o'clock that I believe it's a Wednesday,
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  Speaker 3: March eleventh is when the league year begins, and that's
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  Speaker 3: really kind of been one of the big topics this
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  Speaker 3: offseason for Jaguars, folks is who will be back? Most
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  Speaker 3: notable names Travis etn Junior, the running back and linebacker
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  Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd are on that list of players that are
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  Speaker 3: pending free agents, and you know, it doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 3: at this moment that they could get away with both
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  Speaker 3: of them not coming back and finding role for and
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  Speaker 3: they're both really good players. Obviously fantastic seasons a year
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  Speaker 3: ago for Devin Lloyd on defense, the numbers he put up.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're going to resign a guy like that,
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  Speaker 3: that is as sending in theory, the number is going
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  Speaker 3: to be pretty high. Like the franchise tag for linebacker
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  Speaker 3: is like twenty four nine.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not even an option, Like you can't tag him,
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  Speaker 2: that's not something.
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  Speaker 3: And for a running back it's fourteen million.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars, right, And I mean, you know, sometimes people use
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  Speaker 2: that as a way to negotiate and kind of use
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  Speaker 2: that to get a maybe longer term deal. I know
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars don't use it always, but I think the last
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  Speaker 2: couple times I can remember was Josh Heinz Allen, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then Evan Ingram. I think they did before they
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  Speaker 2: had that deal extended with him. So that's how some
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  Speaker 2: franch tries to use it and some people don't really
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  Speaker 2: utilize it that much. Obviously, we don't know what James
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  Speaker 2: Gladstone's going to do. Nothing's been done yet, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it's just it's and it's tough because those are,
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  Speaker 2: you know, two positions where running backs kind of tricky.
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  Speaker 2: It's not necessarily necessarily a position anybody's going to give
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  Speaker 2: a ton of money to in free agency. But when
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  Speaker 2: you look at what he's contributed, Travis TN's contributed to
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  Speaker 2: this offense. When we were talking about and not playing
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  Speaker 2: that well in the earlier part of the season, Travis
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  Speaker 2: YTN was the only thing that was working at that
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  Speaker 2: point in the offense. And also just I think the
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  Speaker 2: smarts that he has and the way he picked up
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  Speaker 2: Liam's system. Not everybody can do that, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that would be I guess if there's a plan I
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  Speaker 2: would understand moving on from Travis TN. I can understand
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  Speaker 2: where that might be something they would do. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what that plan is going to be, but I
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  Speaker 2: think he definitely will leave a hole in the offense
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  Speaker 2: that they're going to need to address.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the the plan would be draft one. Right,
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  Speaker 3: that's the cheaper option.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't have a lot of top picks because
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  Speaker 2: if you're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to if you're going to get a free agent
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  Speaker 3: running back, well you got one right here. It's leaving
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  Speaker 3: the building. Sure, but we tread of sorts.
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  Speaker 2: But if you you know, the draft capital is lower
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  Speaker 2: and lower rounds this year, right, we don't have a
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  Speaker 2: first round draft pick, So where are you going to draft?
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  Speaker 2: What round are you gonna draft? When they drafted a
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  Speaker 2: couple last year, But then you're drafting to a point
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  Speaker 2: where and maybe this is how Liam Cohen wants to operate.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to have a couple running backs. He doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to just have one guy. So maybe that's how
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  Speaker 2: they're going to operate. They've got Lequin Allen, who's a
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  Speaker 2: great pass blocker. They've got Baseial Tutin who they feel
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  Speaker 2: like in short distances in certain situations, he's really effective.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe they'll find one other guy that they feel
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  Speaker 2: has really great vision or is able to bounce outside
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  Speaker 2: and kind of make the corner, and then they'll have
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  Speaker 2: three different guys that all serve a different purpose. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what their focus is going to be obviously,
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  Speaker 2: they like to kind of keep it close to the
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  Speaker 2: vest and then surprise us with that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm a big Travesy Dan fan, so I would
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  Speaker 2: love to see him back, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: we are going to get much inside that into that
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  Speaker 2: until closer to free agency.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite players to go talk to
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  Speaker 3: during an open locker.
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  Speaker 2: Room, absolutely and you always getting an honest answer out
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  Speaker 2: of him one.
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  Speaker 3: Hundred percent, and that if he's not back around that
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  Speaker 3: part of him and what he means in that locker
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  Speaker 3: room overall, not just when media is in there, certainly
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  Speaker 3: that will be missed. Devin Lloyd, another one of those
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  Speaker 3: guys that is fantastic to be around, had an incredible
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  Speaker 3: breakout season statistically, and if he's not back, there's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a lot of head scratching from some Jags fans
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  Speaker 3: about it. But I think this is the one where
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  Speaker 3: the true business of the game is going to get
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  Speaker 3: this one. He's gonna have to move on.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think he had such a tremendous season
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  Speaker 2: that will work against the Jaguars negotiations with him, because
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  Speaker 2: someone is going to give him a lot of money rightfully,
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  Speaker 2: so based off last season, what they saw from him,
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  Speaker 2: what they think maybe his future will be, and I
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  Speaker 2: far be it. For me, that's fully a business decision.
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  Speaker 2: He should go wherever he wants to be and gets
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  Speaker 2: the most money. And I think there's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people up after him for that because
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a ton of his skills necessarily
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  Speaker 2: in the free agency market, and I think he will definitely.
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  Speaker 2: It might be similar to something we saw, like with
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  Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley when he ended up going to the Titans
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  Speaker 2: and he saw the money that was attached to that,
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  Speaker 2: you can't be mad at for taking that exactly. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that's I think when we hear the number,
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  Speaker 2: the final number for Devin Lloyd, I think we'll all
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  Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, okay, I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the guy had five picks, so he was
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  Speaker 3: the second team All Pro this year, seven and he
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  Speaker 3: was all over the field all these you know.
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  Speaker 2: Taxle force and stumbles.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was the breakout play in the Monday
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  Speaker 3: night game, and that's where.
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  Speaker 2: People will remember when you have those primetime moments like
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  Speaker 2: that's going to see in somebody's mind, and there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of new coaching staffs as well that are trying
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  Speaker 2: to build a roster and maybe looking at somebody like
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  Speaker 2: that and saying, hey, I can build around that, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of athleticism that he showcases and when put in
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  Speaker 2: the right position, he can be super disruptive in a game.
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  Speaker 2: So I can see outside sources definitely wanting to have
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  Speaker 2: that on their team.
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  Speaker 3: A bunch of other guys are pending free agents, including
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  Speaker 3: Diami Brown that was a one year deal and of
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  Speaker 3: course second half of the season really wasn't out there.
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  Speaker 3: On offense, it's a lot of manual Agba, same thing statistically,
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  Speaker 3: just didn't have a lot going on. Andrew Winger safety
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  Speaker 3: has been around for seven years, and that'll be one.
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  Speaker 3: He's a fan favorite. He is something to watch.
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  Speaker 2: We have to remember and remind ourselves that this regime,
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  Speaker 2: these are not necessarily players from their regime, right, So
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  Speaker 2: they're going to want to get their players in and
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  Speaker 2: they made some splashes and free agency and they had
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  Speaker 2: their first draft class, but they're going to continue that process.
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  Speaker 2: And I think on defense we're going to see a
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  Speaker 2: lot of changes and just getting in different kinds of
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  Speaker 2: whether it's through the draft or maybe some lesser names
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  Speaker 2: in free agency that I don't think is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: huge splashes, but to address different parts of and the
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  Speaker 2: secondary just got so banged up last year. I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it is going to be Caleb Bransaw
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  Speaker 2: we never even got to see right, So there's and
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  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter obviously, who's going to be working his way
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  Speaker 2: back in. So a lot of the secondary I think
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  Speaker 2: will look different.
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  Speaker 3: Greg Newsom's on the list as a pending free agent.
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  Speaker 3: They traded a couple of picks to get him as
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  Speaker 3: a kind of a test run towards the end of
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  Speaker 3: the season, and I don't know if that necessarily worked out.
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  Speaker 3: Tim Patrick veteran wide receiver. Austin Johnson defensive lineman. You
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  Speaker 3: can never have enough big guys, but he's in ten
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  Speaker 3: years in to the league. Dennis Gardak a guy who's
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  Speaker 3: a special team's ace and then contributed second half of
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  Speaker 3: the season on defense and the pass rush, and they
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  Speaker 3: worked him out in a lot of different spots, and
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  Speaker 3: he's got that mentality you just kind of want around
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  Speaker 3: and he's overcome so much in his career. How much
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  Speaker 3: does he have left in his tank is a big
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  Speaker 3: question too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if the numbers right, gard act someone
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  Speaker 2: they definitely want to bring back. We talk about special teams,
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  Speaker 2: but also just the energy and kind of the way
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  Speaker 2: they used him as an extra pass rush on certain
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  Speaker 2: points and different ways that Camp was using him on
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: the defensive side of the football. So I think that's
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: someone if the number is right, they'll try to bring back.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Is monterak Brown a free agent, Yes, I would like
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: to see him back if the number is right. For
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: that as well. I just feel like Montek's one of
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: those people that you have to be relentless as a corner,
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: and he's he's maybe not the biggest guy, and maybe
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: he gets beat on one play, but it never ends.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: And he'll also come out of nowhere and out of
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: ball down that you're like, oh, I thought he got
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: beat on that. So just relentless in that sense. And
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: the wide receivers will tell you he's one of the
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: hardest guys to go up against in practice. So you
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: can get him on Terek back at a good number,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I think that would be great. But otherwise I do
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: I do want to see some of the younger guys.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I want to see Ransa out there. I want to
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: see Travis Hunter full time out there when he's healthy.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Those are those are those are what I'm looking for
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: on defense in terms of the secondary.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Speaking of Travis Hunter, you'll return and dig into what
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: could be some of the future plans for the corner
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: slash receiver.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Breaking news is it breaking? I think we might have
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: known a while ago, but apparently it's new news.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: We'll get into that when we come back on Tention
• 15:34
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• 15:37
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• 15:52
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• 15:55
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• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Slash tickets are called nine oh four six three three
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: two thousand. You know not being around here for about
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: a month, come back downtown for the first time in
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: a while, and it is I mean, they are working
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: on the stadium different.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: You see a different section of seats flying by every day.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I know people on Twitter been talking about and seeing
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: the photos. They're they're moving, They're they're doing that construction
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: They cut down one of the light standards today, like
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: where is you're going to jump.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: From where we are in the Miller Electric Center. We
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: can kind of see the side of the stadium and
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: there's like a giant hole you can see through it now.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they're working on it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: They're and this all the you know they had the
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Grand Staircase opening line season. I remember that. Yeah, Well
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: now that's starting to expand all the way around and
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: so the footprint is growing and it's fun to see.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: The business office, I believe is about to open on
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the river. I think they're going to have some unveiling
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: things later in the month or early next month.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: But we didn't get We didn't get invited. Though we
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: don't have desks over there. We are not on that list.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: No, we didn't make the list.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: We didn't make the cut. It looks very nice though.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what it ends up looking.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: So there's progress there. The hotel's coming along all that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So it's good to see down here, absolutely seeing it
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: in motion. And I know we want people to know
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: that there's still we're still one more season here. There'll
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: be lower the upper bowl will be gone, so lower attendance,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: which is why if you have your tickets you want
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to get them walked in early because it'll be lower.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Capacity, probably a little less than forty I think.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, lower capacity for sure, So you want to get
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: there and make sure you're here. And Jagger's football is
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: fun again, so you want to be in the house
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: for it for sure.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: This will be an intimate environment, yes.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: A little, a little small cozy.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. They hell on Earth. For the opponents, well,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: it's going to be warm about that. Yeah, yeah, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: love that of course. And then they have not announced
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: yet in twenty twenty seven, where there were reports of Orlando,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: but there's still some final things to have to happen
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: before the announcement officially comes in twenty twenty seven. That's
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: down the road just a little bit. We're on tenen
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Xlamjaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Knhaney Stevens
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. One guy that is slated to
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: be back in the mix is Travis Hunter, cornerback, wide receiver.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Had the knee injury in practice on the practice field
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: coming out of the bye week, non contact play, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: from all accounts, he's still on track to be back
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: and could be back I think towards the end of
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the offseason program last I heard. But I don't think
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: there'll be any rush to force him out there in
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: any kind of situation where there would be a question mark, right,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: So probably getting back, working back as much as they can,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: and then once training camp hits, in theory, he should
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: be full go. And there was this support last week
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: that I think it was.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: NFL Network, Yeah, Karon wolf An NFL Network we love,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and I think he was just kind of talking about
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: in general. He covers the NFC South a lot, but
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the league as a whole. So I don't know if
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: he was people were running with a little bit as
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: if it was new news, but I think hey, coach
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen had talked at the end of the season
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and kind of alluded to the fact that you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: kind of by necessity the defensive side of the football.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: He's going to be needed there most of the time.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: The report to air Quotes report was that he's going
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: to play defense full time and have some packages on offense, right,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: which is kind of what they said. James Gladstone literally
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: said this in the press conference two days after the season.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Here's the quote. Say, it's fair to say is rehab
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: processes going and expected he's hitting it hard, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: We still expecting to play both sides of the ball. Obviously,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: you can take a peek at expiring contracts on our
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: rostro on which side of the ball has more at
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: this point walking in the offseason. Corner as a position,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: we have a few guys who are on expiring contracts.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: By default, you can expect her to be a higher
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: emphasis on his placement. So right there, you go, corner.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And you know they added Jacobe Myers at the trade
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: deadline this year and at what we see from Parker Washington,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and there's not a gluttony of wide receivers, but there's
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: talent there, right, And I think what is fair to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: say is Travis Hunter is naturally very gifted at cornerback.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like that takes a ton from him
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to learn that position game to game, and I think
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: for him to go out there and he never gets tired,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: it seems so for him to go out there and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: just play fully on defense and then you know, be
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: involved game by game. Is I think what it'll end
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: up looking like, whether that he's needed more on certain games.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I think we'll see more or less from him depending
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: who they're playing and what style of play of the
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: defense they're going up against. Is what the offense offensive
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: availability is going to look like for him, and we
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: know we can make special plays. And I know people
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, this isn't what I'm expecting. You know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: fantasy owners are probably mad, which fair, but I don't
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: think this is that drastically different from what we expected
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and we I mean.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Let's be honest, there were some issues early in the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: season with him lining up right. I mean, they had
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: all the illegal shifts and this is not an easy offense.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And you have to remember he's a rookie or he'll
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: be the second year. But you got to earn your
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: time on the field. If you can't line up right,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: if you don't know where you're supposed to be. You're
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: not going to be out there at Liam Cohen offense.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: And we saw, of course in London Jags were getting
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: blown out at halftime, but then the second half he
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: has the breakout second half and over one hundred yards
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: and a touchdown for the first time in the league
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: going into the bye week, And there was the field
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: going into that week after the bye that they were
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: going to put a little more emphasis on offense because
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: of that momentum they felt was building there until the
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: knee injury. So yeah, but you saw what happened in
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the playoff game, like they needed corner, their top two
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: corners were not on the field. Jordan Lewis was out
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: and Travis Hunter was not on the field either, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: that was a problem.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the deep ball, they got gouged with
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: explosive plays. That's why they lost the football game. So
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: he's very much needed at that role. And you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it feels bad about that Bengals game because I feel
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: like that early on a season, in Week two, that
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: play that should have ended the game and won it
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: for the Jaguars would have been such a marquee moment
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: for him and people would have realized how dominant he
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: can be as a cornerback, and I know we're not
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: used to corners being as effective just the way that stylistically,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the way they play and favor the offense. Now you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you can't be as physical and you don't have you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Darrell reevas those kinds of style of cornerbacks anymore. But
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: he's so athletic and he can really take people out
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: out of a game, which we haven't We don't always see,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: so maybe that's why there'sn't as much appreciation for it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I know it's not as sexy of a position as
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: wide receivers, not touchdowns, stuff like that. So obviously people
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: want to see more on offense, and he can make
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: great plays on offense, and I don't think this is
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: going to limit that. I think they're still gonna, you know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: if he's if they're cooking on offense, it's working. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: do not think Liam Collen's gonna be like, oh, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: only said you could play five plays on offense today,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Like that's not gonna happen. That's not realistic. So he
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: very much rides the wave, but until he gets tired
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to the point where he can't be doing both positions,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: which we've not seen as of yet. Anytime they've used him,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: he's been fine. They're gonna use him as much as
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: they can, and in different ways every week.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I think with him in space with the ball in
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: his hands, like when they flip it out fast wide
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and he's got three, four or five yards in front
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: of him between the defender's, that's what it's fun, because
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's shaking guys off and cutting
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: left and right, and you know he's scorming for fifteen.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: That's that was the Travis Hunter that you're like, Wow, okay,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: this makes a lot of sense why they would draft
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: a guy this high.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: It's also fun to see him go up and get
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: it too sometimes and in that Chiefs game, the one
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: where he goes up and over like two different defenders, like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that's pretty cool too, as those unique athletic gifts that
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: not everybody has, which among other athletes is cool to
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: see because he's even more athletic than your average athlete.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: So for him to be able to showcase that just
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: a little tiny bit in what you know, eight or
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: nine games is hopefully more to come. And I think
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: just getting used to the NFL and getting used to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Liam Cohen's offense a second year. He's still in the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: building every day, every week, every time the players were here.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Wasn't like he just never came in. So I imagine
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: he's still working, going through playbook, kind of understanding the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: offense and stilling can't get better with time.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Last year for him, forty five targets, twenty eight catches,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: just under three hundred yards, the touchdown in his last
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: game where he went eight for one oh one at
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Wimbley and the losing result against the Rams. Fifteen tackles
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: on defense, three passes defensed, and we'll see what happens
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: as this offseason continues for Travis Hunter. The offseason continues
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: next week with the NFL Scouting Combine.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: JP Shatrick will be there, Yes, nobody else though, JP representative.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: We're back in a moment. It is a different feeling
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: combine for the Jaguars next week and Andy, it's Jaguars
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Happy Hour, Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Ka,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Nani Stevens, Jeff Logwan back with us next week. Jaguars
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Happy Hour from the Hyundai Studios Run ten to excel
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: am Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. The off season
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: is upon us. Playoffs are over Super Bowls in the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: rear view, and that means it is pre draft season.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: It is. It's a little less exciting this year, though, because.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: It's always exciting. What are you talking?
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. We don't have first
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: round draft pick and the new front office doesn't go
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to the Combine. So there's certain things that you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: are normally like the little milestone steps of the off season,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: we're not necessarily gonna hit in the same way this year.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Correct. All that is correct. Next week is the Combine,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: no Liam Cohen, no James Gladstone, usually the coaching GM
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: where the teams go and have a press conference and
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: they do the radio row circuit at the Combine and
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: kind of set the tone for the off season ahead.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Not sure if they're going to have availability, you know otherwise,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: which it's possible, but they're not going to be an Indianapolis,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: which means we're not officially covering it in Indianapolis this year.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: And it's just a different field as we've been doing
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: it pretty much every year since twenty thirteen. I think
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: we've gone to cover it, and that's back when back
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: in the old days, there were only a couple teams
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: with staffs that went to cover it, and that's changed
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: just now become this massive offseason media event. I think
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: they had a thousand credential media. Every person who has
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: a website anywhere close to draft related can get credentialed
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: for this thing, and it turns into a lot of
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, especially later in the week when
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: the workhouts and things start happening and some of the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: prospects coming through the media center. So it's it's an
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: interesting one because you know, there's not really that presence
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: this year in Indianapolis and then right after that not
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: far away from free agency, but the combine stuff that
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the approach is unique. I mean, that's what LA did
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: right the rams, right, which is not.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Going where our head coach and GM came from. Right,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: They're going to take some from that, for sure.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Philosophy is, hey, we're going to watch actual football and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: see if the guy can play instead of worrying about
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: the three cone drill.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Like the Ando Olympics. Yes, yeah, so there's merit to it.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I totally get it. But you can get all the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: numbers and stats, and also putting trust in your scouting staff,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: right because I think a lot of this is your
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: scouts probably know some of these guys better than you
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: do if you're higher up in the front office, and
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: trusting your guys and their assessments. And I think they
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: go about They've talked a little bit about how they
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: go about meeting with some of the prospects, and you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you can have visits, you can kind of go and
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: meet with them at their schools when they have their
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: own pro days. They go about it different ways to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: kind of get to where they need to be. But
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I think what is interesting about it is, as I
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: noticed is I feel like they put a lot of
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: trust in their teams built around them, and the reports
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that they're getting from those guys that know them.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Best makes sense.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the job. You have to trust,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: you have to delegate. You can't do everything yourself. I mean,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: if there was another high pick they went last year,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I know they were all new then, so they're still
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: trying to.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Like the first second day, Jam.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Had his press conference and flew there like that was
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: that was that week, so they were there then obviously
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I had a higher picks. It's a little bit different
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: because you're meeting with, you know, a certain set of guys.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: You can do interviews and kind of meet with them
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: that way, so that's a little bit different. They don't
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: have that top of the pick, so it's going to
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: be a little more grassroots of an effort because they're
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: looking at later around guys.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's next week in Indianapolis. I'll be there.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I'll have a report on Jags. What's jag Zam? Is
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the show name Tuesday morning?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, show, I have.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Almost said JAG's HQ, which doesn't exist in the offseason,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: jag Zam. So I'll be up there Tuesday and then
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: do the podcast Wednesday. Bucky and I from Indianapolis's very good.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So we will be represented, just not the usual, not
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: the full not the full crew. I mean, you guys
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: are like the mayors of Indianapolis.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: No, Bucky Brooks on the other hand, yes, and John Oser.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It's the house that Osher built build that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Oser is going though I think
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: he might. He didn't make the cut either.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: No, all right, it's what it is, so looking forward
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: to that next week speaking of, you know, no changes
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: in the coaching staff. I mean there were close calls,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: like Grant Kidinski and Anthony Campanelli each had interviews the
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: soft season. I think Dsky was really daring close to
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: getting the Browns job.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's the Browns job, and I'm.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Not it's one of thirty two.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking it down. I'm just saying, if you're
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: getting a head coaching job, you want to be put
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: in a situation where you feel you're going to be successful.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I would imagine, and I don't know as a offensive
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: minded guy going in there with what that quarterback situation
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: looks like. That's over the excise. He's going to have
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: his pick the next however many years in a row,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: whether it's next year, if he takes one or whatever.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: He's not going to be without option. And I think
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: as young as he is, this is his first year
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: as a coordinator as well, hasn't had play calling duties yet.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was a poor idea for him
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: to kind of, you know, go interview, see what it
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: was going to look like, but then eventually come back
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and have another year under his belt before he ends
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: up somewhere else, and I think that was smart on
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: his part. Anthony Campanile I think will be an amazing
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: head coach whenever that time comes. He's a great leader
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: of people. I think he can really read a room.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Players want to play for him. So wherever he ends
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: up as a head coach, I think he'll be very successful.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: And again, I think that was just about finding the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: right fit for him as well.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he had three different interviews Campanelli at
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, which is great for him
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: and both those guys to have that experience of going
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: through at one time. But it's great for the Jaguars
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: that they're both back. And I'm sure Liam Cohen during
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: that time frame. I'm not sure how much time actually
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Liam got away because you have to have a plan
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: just in case one of these guys gets hired of
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: how are you going.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: To backfiel these yeah and so, And I think what
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: was cool about how Liam built his staff is it
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: wasn't just like, hey, let me grab every guy I've
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: worked with in Tampa, LA and Kentucky and kind of
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: bring them in that way. He really went out and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: found people that he had run into through his coaching career.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: But not necessarily worked with before, and he felt would
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: take on their roles and utilize that in a way
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that you know, kind of take take it under their
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: own control, and not guys that were just gonna follow
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: along with whatever he said, right, because Anthony Campanier Campanilea
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: really runs that side of the football camp Blake, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: not that Liam's not involved, And I just mean like
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: he's really able to trust in Camp and let him
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: do that. And and Yudinsky is very innovative, and the
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: way they work together, Liam Cohen and Yudinsky work together
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: on offense is and the relationship he has with Trevor
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Lawrence is what really came together the back half of
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: that season. And having another year of that I think
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: will only be helpful to Trevor Lawrence and the rest
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: of the Jaguars. So I can see why he definitely
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: wanted both of them back. And and like I said,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and especially we're seeing like what ten openings this year,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Like there will be openings and there will be spots,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And I think because Yudinsky specifically is so young, I
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: think he knows that he will have an opportunity and
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: wants it to be the right one, right, another.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Year or two or whatever back here with the quarterback
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: and the head coach in place, and the system start
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: really starting to grow. It's not gonna hurt it all
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: to me. Come on, the phone's gonna ring again.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly, So I don't think it hurts them. It's not
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: something like I gotta go now or I'm never gonna
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: get another chance.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: You know, it would be interest. I mean, I'd love
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: to be a fly on the wall when Yudinsky and
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Cohen are like designing plays like a new thing, like
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: maybe even this time of year, like let's let's figure
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: out how to utilize player X against this defense. And
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's got to be fascinating how they
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: worked out.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: It's got to be beyond like insider football. I don't
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: know if I could follow. I think it would just
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: be like you let me know when you're done, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: then we'll draw it out and then I'll try to
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: follow along. But it's not easy. It's complicated when they
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: have it all together. So when they're planning, I imagine
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: it's just like if you watch it's always Sunday Phildelphia.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Charlie at one point turns into like has all these
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: things on the wall and strings across and looks like
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a madman. And I feel like that's what maybe both
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: of their offices look like when they're trying to draw
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: stuff up.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe so. And it's so precise and it's down to
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: every little movement pre snap, and then you got to
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: go rep it on the field and then you can't
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: illegal shift, you know, like that, And that's that's what
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: it comes down to at the end of the play.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Can can the players go execute what you do?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You can draw it up, but if they can't remember
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: it and follow along and make it happen execute, then
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't really mean much.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Second half of the season, they dar ensure it did
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, which is awesome, and that's when everything's in sync.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: It's pretty great to see. So I'm excited to you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: everybody's second year in this is going to be hopefully
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: even better. It can only be, you know, more comfortable
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: with it at that point. Seeing how comfortable Trevor Lawrence
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: was that was so cool, just like kind of seeing
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: that progression. We always we've seen Trevor make those throws.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: We know how talented he is, and that ability it was.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: It's the consistent see we haven't seen right, and see
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: it so consistently the back half of the season, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: just him being so comfortable and just going out there like, oh,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I got it, like just you know, checking out of
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: plays or just like knowing where he wants to go
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to the football and trusting himself and trusting his receivers.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: It felt like it unlocked a little bit, and you're
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: hoping that we can continue that through another season.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: There was that conversation before the I think it was
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals game. They sat out William Cohen with Trevor
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: hey Man, like we're here, you don't worry about throwing picks,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: and he throws three interceptions, so litterally, Liam couldn't freak
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: out because he told him it's okay. And then that's
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: when I think Trevor kind of trusted the whole process
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: a little bit more and saying, you know what, we
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: could win if I throw a couple of picks, Like
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: we can overcome this. We're gonna play more football. And
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: then it was after that that the thing just took off.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And it's a reminder of like you know, you think
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: about football ten fifteen years ago, like quarterbacks threw more
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: interceptions because they were slinging it around a little bit more.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I think there's higher scoring offense, but I feel like
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: they feel like an inner the end of the world,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and it doesn't need to be, especially when you can
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: kind of shake it off, go back, or you have
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a defensive trust it doesn't necessarily turn into points and
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: then you can move on. And Trevor got so much
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: better at being able to shake stuff like that off
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and not let it affect him going further, because I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: think sometimes it would get in his head and it
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: would continue. And if you can make a mistake and
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: immediately move on, that's growth obviously, and that's where I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: feel like he's found more success, at least recently.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: It's hard for me to get past some of the
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: red zone ones though, oh boy, yeah, but then there
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: was like it's hard.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: He cuts everybody right, Like, obviously you want to score
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: in the red zone and you're like, get the points.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: But then they're very aggressive in the red zone in general.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: There's other times where you're like, why do you kick
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the field goal? So there's a lot of stuff in
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the red zone that is stylistically. They play differently in
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the red zone, and sometimes you win that way. And
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: sometimes you get a little frustrated.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes let's come back in a moment. This is Austin
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Lane's favorite segment when we come back on days, I'm
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: scaredoft co pilot segment.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Oh he loves AI.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Apparently, So all right, let's see we're going.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what Microsoft Ai we've got.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: We're going to get some answers out of Microsoft co Pilot.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: We're going to ask when we come back.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: On Tentionexlam, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. It is
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour, Welcome back, it is Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: final moments of our first program back after the hiatus
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: following the postseason, JP Shadwick, Kadani Stevens and time to
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: get Microsoft co Pilot to help us with some of
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the off season schedule ahead. The question today for co
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Pilot when does NFL free agency begin? This is an
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: easy start, easy back in the schedule for Copilot, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to break the computer today. NFL free
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: agency begins when the new league year officially opens, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: for the upcoming cycle, that date is March eleventh, four
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: pm Eastern. That's when teams can finalize signings, trains become official,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: and expiring contracts rollover into the new year.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Check out you can chitta chat before that.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Two days before that ges.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, make some calls, texts.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, agents and front office. Yes. Check out Microsoft co
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: pilot for all your questions.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Absolutely right now.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: That's part of a busy little time ahead in the
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: off season, and the important dates are right here upon
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: us now. Of course, the seat and combine next week.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: That's changed over the last few years too. A lot
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: of the workouts are now in the evening. It's turned
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: into more of a television event, and you know, so
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the schedule around that has expanded some. And then as
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: we talked about there, the franchise tag deadline is March third.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: March ninth and ninth through eleventh is the negotiation period
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and the March eleventh is the new league year and
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: the startup free agency. The Jaguars veterans don't come in
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: until like late April. April twentieth, the off season workout
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: program begins for teams with returning head coaches, so they
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: won't be in for a while. There is the NFL
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: annual Meeting Owners meetings. That's three days late March and
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: then the draft April twenty third through twenty fifth in Pittsburgh,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Pennsylvania this year. So that's what's coming up. Busy time
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: of year. Really starting to take some steps forward now Finally, Yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Football never stops, and this is kind of the front
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: offices time of year, right, putting every ducks in a
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: row and really getting the team put together that you
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: want to have in the fall or at the end
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: of the summer when training camp starts. And it'll look
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: a little different for the Jaguars this year, of course
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: with their later draft picks. We'll talk about that in
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the coming weeks what the draft's actually going to look like.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: But you have to feel good about where this team
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: is right now, what they were able to do in
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the first year under their new regime. And then I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: do think there will be some significant changes. I don't
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: know if it'll all be in free agency, but I
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: think there may be some key veterans brought in, and
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of I mean, there were
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: some hits and misses with free agency last year, but
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: some of the guys like Jordan Lewis or you look
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: at Robert Hainsey, some of the vets they brought in
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: when free agency made all the difference, Eric Murray, and
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: because a lot of them are vetts that want to
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: work with younger players as well, which isn't always the case, right.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: You can get they just want to get their reps in,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: just want to you know, play as long as they can.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: But a lot of those guys really embraced the younger
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: players around them, and it didn't feel like they were
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: in spite of each other, like they're trying to make
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: each other better. And I think, you know, Eric Murray,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis were able to help a lot of the
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: younger guys, whether it's Jarry and Jones or Antonio Johnson,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: both of them had significantly better years last season than
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: they did the year before. And I think a lot
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: of that can be tutelage of people at your own
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: position and other players helping you out. And Hainesy was
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: really calming, I think in the center of that line
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: when there's so many changes around him, and what you
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: can do for a quarterback having a center that you
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: really trust in. So I think there can be some
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: really significant moves. I don't know if they'll be huge
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: splashes in terms of money, but I think there can
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: be some significant additions made through free agency, and I
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: feel like some of the ones made last year, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: mean there were some that didn't hit. You know, Dianmi
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Round wasn't able to be as effective as they wanted.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: But that was a one year deal. So when you
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: look at some of the other guys that are going
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: to be here and returning that were free gent editions,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I think they played huge roles last year.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have to do a little work to
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: find some cap room and make some moves.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Well that's what they do. They're math guys. They're not
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the math girl, but they're math guys.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I went to the Harvard of the South. But it's
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: tough for me to figure this out.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: You know, it might be a little hard for you too. Yeah,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: they'll make it work. They always do. They find ways
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and you know, the ad extension years and move the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: money out and there's there's ways to work around.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, the Chief syst did it. They just renegotiated
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: with Patrick Mahomes and opened like forty million dollars or something.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: There's all kinds of stuff that can be done. It's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: crazy to make something happen. They will I.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Got a bonus trivia question for you.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm scared.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Who was the first NFL player to compete in the
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Winter Olympics?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, what's sport? Let's do that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Can you tell me what's I can't tell you that?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Well, give it away? Probably sorry, repeat the question.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: The first NFL player to compete in the Winter Olympics.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: There's a ton that's competed in the Summer.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Olympics, sure track or whatever else.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Whatever, Jim Thorpe, like all those guys.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Right, I have no idea. Is it a skier?
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: No, not a skier?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Bob Slid, Yes, hell yeah, that's awesome. Four man or
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: two man?
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Bob SLID's crazy to me? Well, no, skeleton is crazier.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Skeleton is like I'm actually afraid they're going to die.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Four man actually selected for the four man and then
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: competed in the two person companies.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Wow, who is it? I'm excited?
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Herschel Walker, no big powerful runner right and off the
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: starting line and they finished seventh.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Herschel Walker is like life story is crazy, right, Like
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I don't even know anymore? Like every chapter of that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: is insane. So that's crazy. I did not know that. Wow,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: that is a fun faction. Were big, We're all. We
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: got the Olympics on every TV here in the Midller
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Electric Center. So we just watched the women's hockey team
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: get gold, which was a right before the show began,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: so obviously that was good luck heading into happy hour.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: But the Olympics are just I love it. We had
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the Summer Olympics on a couple of years ago in
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: the building, and it's just that kind of athleticism is
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: so unique and seeing how hard they train and then
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: at the highest peak to come out.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: One of the Summer Olympics we had Aaron Ross was
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: on the team and he was a cornerback and his wife,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Sonia Richards Ross, was a sprinter. It's awesome and so
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: we watched live. I don't know where the Olympics were
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: that year, in twenty twelve or twenty twelve, probably I
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: watched it live on the video boards in the stadium
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: because it was like during the off season or training
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: camp or something, so they stopped practice put it on
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: the big board. I think she won gold or something. Yeah,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: it's kind of fun.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I just love it. It's you know, everybody
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: can be peached, patriotic, come together and watch things you
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: never watched. I never watched skeleton, I ever watched Bob sled.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Just really, I don't you know.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I am. The curling fights are amazing.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: That's intriguing.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: The just the rivalries, the I mean, well.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: We're going to videotape you cheat ith, You're not going.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: To know it got them exactly a whole scandal in itself.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So I love all the controversy that goes along with it.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: And everybody's kind of an expert in their own field,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: so it's pretty fun to It's enjoyable, and I'm glad
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: this is kind of during the time so we can
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: really focus on it.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: It's key jumping.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, you see the dog that was out on
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the cross country.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: There was another like a ram or something the other day.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: It was running up hill wild.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm mom all for it. I find
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: it all very very entertaining. And they are all skills
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: of athleticism I could never dare to touch. So I'm
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: very impressed by a lot of them.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Final few moments here in the program on Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: GP Shadwick, Kenny Stevens Jeff Logan will be with us
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: next week right after we returned from the combine, and
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: we'll have another show for you next Thursday, four o'clock.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Each and every week, I'm curious if they're going to
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: do some off season renegotiation extension. You know, there's a
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: couple guys that are now eligible to be extended if
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: you wanted to go that direction. Parker Washington's one of those.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Penn Staters might be people I would like, Brenton Stranger
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: and both guys that I would.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Be interested in, Ravon Walker.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that's gonna be a big number, so
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: that maybe something I don't know where where they're, where
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: they stand on that what that number is going to
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: look like. I know he wants to stay here obviously,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Trebon's really very much adapt to the area, loves it here.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: So I'd love an area though too. That would pay
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: me about twenty five or thirty a year.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I think I'll get that where. I think I'll get
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: that wherever he lives, so I don't think that'll be
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: problematic for him. But yeah, my focus if I was
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: gonna uh, I think Parker Washington the one of the
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Nittney Lions if not, both would be where my focus
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Briton Strange was so valuable when he.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Was out you noticed it a lot, like the run
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: game is amazing, and then he wasn't in anymore, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you're like, they're not as amazing that guy.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's the best.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Blocker on your team. He's And also, like specifically Trayvon
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Walker and Breton Strange, when you talk about being a
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: tough football team, those are, in my opinion, those are
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: two toughest guys in football team.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Parker Washington is getting hit and like flying five yards
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: in the air, head over heels and coming.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Down rubber yes, big legs.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Like he's just I mean, it's unbelievable.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: He is someone and I think you know what you
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: saw last year or maybe he was the fourth guy
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: on the on the list and works his way up
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: at the end of the year. He's like your wide
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: receiver one pretty much. So, I mean, he his his
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: skill set was undeniable. What he did through training camp
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: through the season was so impressive to me. I think
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you have to try to keep him if you can.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want him leaving in the.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Building and get ahead of it.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: And especially the tide end. No, nobody else is going
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: to sign that guy. Can't do it. Now, everybody else
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: would sign that guy.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, don't allow it. I don't like to get to
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: that point.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get there. And he's still got time for
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: these It's not like sure, but.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: It's also like when you lock things in a little
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: bit earlier, the money can be a little bit better
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and you already know how you feel about the situation.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think Breton Strange is going to be not
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: tough next year, so I think he will only continue
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: to get better.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: That's one of the lasting legacies of the previous administration.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: They got the quarterback done, really they did, and it's right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: There were question marks around that with some of the play,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: especially earlier in the season, but I think they've turned
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: the corner.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: And plus, the quarterback number is never going down, so
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: it's not like, oh no, we paid too much or
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: like the housing market and then it changed that. No,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: quarterback number is only going to continue to go up.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but if he's not that good, then that's a
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: big problem if you're signing into that number.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Sure, but I think they felt the way they felt
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: about Trevor at that time that was the past regime.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: But I think they were locked in with Trevor with
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the skills that they felt he had and now looks good.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Earlier the better. We'll see what they do with that
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: in the next few weeks, or it might not even
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: be the next few weeks. It could be they could
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: do that all the way into the training camp into
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: the season if they want.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't have to be done. That's just something
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: we're we're looking ahead saying, hey, maybe you want to
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: do that. But they don't have to do that right now.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: No they don't. No, they don't combine next week, no
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Jaguars presence, the are, no head coach, no jail. There
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: will be some scouts there, but none of the leadership
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: is planning on going next week. And here we are.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: What do you got coming up?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: What do we got? Well, Jack Sam's back every Tuesday now,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: so we've got that going on. And then I think
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: we're just kind of excited to see a little bit
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: of how this offseason program works for what the coach.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: When we talk about you know, they're not going to
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: it's not because they're not here. They're here, they're working.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Things are going on, so kind of we have really
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: great access for the hunt and kind of working with
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: them behind the scenes to see what that's going to
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: look like has been interesting. And yeah, I'm just I mean,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: it's I think it's good that it's calm right now.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: We're used to obviously the chaos and the new you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: we're hiring someone in this and that this is a
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: good place to be.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with my hands right now.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I'm panicking, but it's good. I think this is needed.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: This is what it's supposed to be.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: This is what it's supposed to be like at the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: time of year. Wow, I've been told, but yeah, this
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: is a good thing.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: No, we're just like kind of saying, we're just used
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: to chaos, so it's a little bit different for us.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Chaos, So now no chaos. It's a very calm off
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: season and that's the way it's going to be, it
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: feels like for the next little while here. We'll see
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: what happens once, you know, free agency hits, if they
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: find cap space and sign some guys they still probably do,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: and then they'll go into the draft and what they're
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: going to do with the thirteen draft picks, none of
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: them first rounders, is always fascinating to see.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two weeks from now with free agency,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: that'll give us a little bit more of a sneak
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: peak of what they're going to end up doing with
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the draft, because whatever they dress in free agency, that
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I'll give us a little bit better of a window
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: of where the focus is going to be. And like
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I said, they may not be names you are uber
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: familiar with, and it might not be huge money splashes,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: but there's going to be contributors added through free agency.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I'm positive that are going to be names that play
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: a huge role come football season.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is. It is stuff. Enjoyed it.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: We're back, guys, We're back. We're back.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: We're so back, Josh, We're back. We are not going
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: anywhere for a while.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: We are just a little bit. I know, it feels
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: like football. It's sad though, because like you're so used
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: to football like every single week, and then after Super
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Bowl it's just like, oh, don't get to watch it
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: for a little while. Yeah, right, that part is a
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: little sad. But love March madness soon and I feel
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: like that we have Olympics now of March madness, I
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: can talk us through. It's it's okay.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: No, we got World Cup this summer too.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: World Cup. It'll be nice weather again, like it's already
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: nice weather now. But you know what I mean, summertime,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: kids are out of school, there's there's all kinds of
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: stuff to look forward to. You guys, don't.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Panic, no, yeah, remain calm. Wow, it's kind Donnie Stevens,
• 49:44
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• 49:47
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• 49:50
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• 50:09
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