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Owen Weaver for State Senate joins the show! · Day Drinking With Dog

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back Day Drinking with Dog on this steamy hot
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  Speaker 1: June twelfth, twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, it's been hot all week. The rain ape
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  Speaker 2: cooling it down.
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  Speaker 1: But can't complain because we really haven't had any hot
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  Speaker 1: weather for a while. But my pool with no heater
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  Speaker 1: is now heating up and it's actually a little too
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  Speaker 1: hot now I think.
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  Speaker 2: But welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's kind of every other week now with
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  Speaker 1: my schedule, and I have the other podcast going, so
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  Speaker 1: glad you guys are listening, and today we are. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're not far from the midterm elections and the local
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  Speaker 1: elections as well, and today I just literally met Owen
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  Speaker 1: Weaver a couple of minutes ago when we were shooting
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  Speaker 1: the shit, and.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Owen, thank you, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Owen Weaver for State Senate right right, fourteenth.
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  Speaker 3: District, fourteenth district, fourteenth.
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  Speaker 2: District out of Orange, Milford.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all of Orange, all of Milford, part of Woodbridge,
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  Speaker 4: in the west shore of West Havens A.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so you got some some bland, a lot of covering,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of steps.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. So I was reading your bio.
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  Speaker 2: You're in the law background.
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  Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, I'm a lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: Lawyer, I say, law lawyer, and well you're Orange born, raised.
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  Speaker 4: Born raised in Orange. Took a little detour to New
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  Speaker 4: Jersey after law school. But you know, then we came back.
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  Speaker 2: And how do people go to Jersey? I don't get it.
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  Speaker 4: I've got to blame a friend from law school. Actually
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  Speaker 4: that's what happened. So you know, I wanted the clerk
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  Speaker 4: for a judge, and I thought, oh, I'll do like
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  Speaker 4: I was interested in tax so I'll look, I'll look
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  Speaker 4: for something there, right, But there's not a lot of
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  Speaker 4: tax courts in the country. Jersey has one of them.
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  Speaker 4: So I was very close with with two friends. They
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  Speaker 4: are now married in Florida. Julie her is her name,
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  Speaker 4: and she said, well, there's a court in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Why didn't you apply? So I put in my application
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  Speaker 4: to At the time, I think there were six judges
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  Speaker 4: sitting in the tax court, three of them were in
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  Speaker 4: North Jersey. I applied to the three. I got an
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  Speaker 4: immediate response back. Actually, it's my judge's birthday today, I
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  Speaker 4: texted them earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I got a request for an interview
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  Speaker 4: on like a Monday. I went down to Newark on
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  Speaker 4: a Friday, and I got the offer on Monday. And
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  Speaker 4: this is all in the fall of my third year.
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  Speaker 4: And it was a bad economy for lawyers at that
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  Speaker 4: point in time, so I took it. And then you know,
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  Speaker 4: so that's a year in New Jersey and then my
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  Speaker 4: wife came down well at the time, fiance came down
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  Speaker 4: after that. She was getting her PhD from BU.
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  Speaker 2: At the time.
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  Speaker 4: And that's how you get stuck in New Jersey for
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  Speaker 4: eleven years.
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  Speaker 2: What tun were you in?
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  Speaker 4: We started off out in Randolph in Morris County, and
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  Speaker 4: then we eventually bought in Mottville, which is also in
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  Speaker 4: Morris County, just a little north of Morristown, so similar
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  Speaker 4: demographics and feels Morristown.
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  Speaker 2: I know, we're working for Sikorski Lockey.
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  Speaker 1: Martin as a as a plan there, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of our guys actually, right, go work for lockey instead
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  Speaker 1: of course, right, and we all pust their balls. So
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  Speaker 1: you're going to thirty Jersey whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just make fun.
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  Speaker 4: So two out of my three boys are from New
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  Speaker 4: Jersey and I give them a hard time about that.
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  Speaker 2: So only Jersey kids.
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  Speaker 3: Only the third one got it, right, I guess. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I was looking at your your like current resume,
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  Speaker 1: like what you do now, and I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 1: a busy person, but holy crap, you've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of a lot of things going on in your life.
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  Speaker 2: I wear a lot of hats, Yeah you do. It's impressive.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that because where I work, most of the
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  Speaker 1: people that I manage have they didn't have a hat, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what I mean. It's like a maybe like a visor. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and that's all they do.
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  Speaker 1: And I try to lead by example with how I
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  Speaker 1: hustle and move around and whatever. It is what it is,
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  Speaker 1: but very impressive. I mean, you run, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: part a lot of boards, right.
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  Speaker 2: You obviously have your your job, You do a lacrosse
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  Speaker 2: right you explain it?
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  Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, first I'll say I have a very
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  Speaker 4: supportive and loving wife, and I wouldn't be able to
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  Speaker 4: do that without it.
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  Speaker 3: Right yeah, right?
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  Speaker 4: And then I also have you know, great partners, at
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  Speaker 4: the law firm who let me get involved of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So without that, I wouldn't have as many hats as
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  Speaker 4: I do. But I like to keep busy. I also
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  Speaker 4: probably don't know how to say no to people. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm the president of Amity Youth Lacrosse. My oldest plays.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also on the Amity Chamber of Commerce. I'm on
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  Speaker 4: the board there. I'm on the board for the Orange
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  Speaker 4: Economic Development Corp. And I'm the town attorney for Orange.
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  Speaker 4: So to name a couple of things that I do
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  Speaker 4: with my free time, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's out the side of your nine to five, right.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right, So but I enjoy it. It keeps me busy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get I get out there and you know,
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  Speaker 4: to the extent of my volunteer efforts. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: believe in giving back and doing stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And you have three kids.
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  Speaker 3: Three it's three boys, my poor wife.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all they all play sports.
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  Speaker 4: So they're now they're nine seven and my my youngest
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  Speaker 4: turned four yesterday, so my youngest would be out there,
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  Speaker 4: but he's not old enough to play sports. Yeah, my
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  Speaker 4: oldest plays lacrosse in basketball. My middle guy is sports
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  Speaker 4: is not a big interest of his at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, so I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean my kid, he's sixteen. He just finished his baseball
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  Speaker 1: season at Platt Tech.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, And.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I I'm so busy, but like when
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  Speaker 1: I get out of work, I just want to go
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  Speaker 1: home and you know, play with.
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  Speaker 2: The dog for a little bit, relaxed, do some yard work,
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  Speaker 2: and I go to bed early. But I got to
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  Speaker 2: pick them up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going through this thing where he gets his
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  Speaker 1: license in a month, scary and right, and he has
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  Speaker 1: this you know, permit right now, and he's he's doing
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  Speaker 1: Grady works and he's saving up money to buy his
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  Speaker 1: own car, and he just thinks that we're magically going
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  Speaker 1: to pay the insurance. You know. So he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like he thinks, like when he turns sixteen or even
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  Speaker 1: before that, we're getting him, you know, a little pickup
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  Speaker 1: truck or something. And I'm like, listen, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: one of those kids.
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  Speaker 2: They all are now. I guess they want want, want
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  Speaker 2: or whatever the friends have. Like, right, I was a.
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  Speaker 1: Kid, and I want I just it's it's just NonStop.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the TikTok world. It's like they see something,
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  Speaker 1: they want it, and I you know, sat him down.
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  Speaker 1: I look like, oh, listen, I can't guarantee. First we
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  Speaker 1: got to find the red car, right, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not spending you know, twelve grand and you get a
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  Speaker 1: four or five thousand dollars truck. Plus he goes to
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  Speaker 1: Platt so he can fix it up at school, which
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  Speaker 1: is great. But he's smart because he's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, well, you really don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if I have a car, you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to drive me around. And I'm like, you know, I can't, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a poker.
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  Speaker 2: Game now, I can't show my hand. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: bray driving around. It's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: He's right, right, yeah, yeah, So it's uh, you're still
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  Speaker 1: in that young stage my.
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  Speaker 4: Kids and go shape with me, but not about cars.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I typically get bamboozled into letting them
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  Speaker 4: have like a third dinner, but yeah, last snacks turn
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  Speaker 4: into like, you know, another ice cream and then something else.
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  Speaker 2: But he's at the age now where you know, he
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  Speaker 2: plays football, baseball.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's a little he's not a fat kid,
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  Speaker 1: but he's in a little heavier set at all. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, as long as I don't care what
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  Speaker 1: you eat, you know, I don't eat crap all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but you know we always have healthy dinners.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know that. You know, he'll go to
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  Speaker 2: the gym, have a healthy dinner, and then two minutes
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  Speaker 2: later he wants ice, screaming and he fucking loads it
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  Speaker 2: up with He ruined the whole day.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, right, I can.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, you want someone, I'm like, no, I do,
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  Speaker 1: but no I can't. I say, my calories for liquor.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good choice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So U all right, so let's get into how did
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  Speaker 1: you first? When did the first the idea first come
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  Speaker 1: to your head? Like, you know, maybe I should dabble
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  Speaker 1: in politics because you know what, it seems fun. It's
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  Speaker 1: very simple these days, everyone gets along on both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the statement.
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  Speaker 2: What was what? Who is someone talking?
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  Speaker 3: What happened? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So I've always been interested in government and politics. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: my practice of law focuses almost primarily on representing municipalities.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm the town attorney for Orange. I
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  Speaker 4: represent Greenwich and a couple of other municipalities. But I'll
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  Speaker 4: be very honest, running for office was not something that
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking about. It wasn't in my five year
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  Speaker 4: plan or anything like that. But I got a couple
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  Speaker 4: of phone calls earlier in the year asking me, you know,
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  Speaker 4: from a variety of different people, Hey, would you be interested?
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  Speaker 4: And the first call was very flattering, and oh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's nice, funny, but you know, I didn't think much
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  Speaker 4: of it. And then you know, a couple of days later,
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  Speaker 4: you get another phone call. Oh, that's a coincidence. And
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  Speaker 4: then you know, by the third phone call, I realized
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  Speaker 4: I was the last one in town who knew I
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  Speaker 4: was going to be running for office this year. But
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  Speaker 4: in all seriousness, you know, when people approach you, you got
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  Speaker 4: to think about it. And I determined that I think
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  Speaker 4: I could bring you know, new leadership to the table
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  Speaker 4: and new ideas to Harford if I'm fortunate enough to
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  Speaker 4: get the voters support. So I figured, you know, let's
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  Speaker 4: go for it. I got nothing to lose. So that's
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  Speaker 4: how I got yanked into it, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: So you announced around March.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, around there, like, yeah, March seventeen or whatever
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  Speaker 4: that Monday or Tuesday was.
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  Speaker 2: So who are you up against?
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  Speaker 3: Senner to Maroney?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yeah, yeah, Maroney, he's married to someone.
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  Speaker 2: I went to high school with.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, is a brothers actually in my neighborhood. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're nice people. They got a great little dog. I've
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  Speaker 4: met the Senator a couple of times.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I can't say I know him. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's all right.
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  Speaker 2: He's been in a comment for a while now.
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  Speaker 4: He's been in office with whether in the House or
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  Speaker 4: in the Senate, for nearly a decade.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, So what's the strategy here?
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  Speaker 3: What's the strategy?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think, without giving you the full
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  Speaker 4: stump speech, the state.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, the floor is yours.
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  Speaker 4: No, I appreciate it. The state, you know, is increasingly unaffordable, right,
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  Speaker 4: and I can speak to that from both a personal and.
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  Speaker 2: A propecional I think everyone agree with that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I when I go grocery shopping, my
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  Speaker 4: wife or I when we look at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the month at the bill, I mean it's more than
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  Speaker 4: my mortgage, Like we cringe every time. And yes, I
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  Speaker 4: have three kids. That's expensive. But the prices just keep
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  Speaker 4: going up. And from you know professional standpoint representing municipalities,
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  Speaker 4: the unfunded mandates are just killing municipal budgets. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I have had the fortune of working for both Democrat
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  Speaker 4: and Republican administrations in various towns, and you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: in the room when the chief executives trying to make
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  Speaker 4: decisions or working with board chairs and members on budget
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  Speaker 4: and other things, and it's just increase singly difficult because
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  Speaker 4: Hartford continues to have great ideas and they just pushed
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  Speaker 4: the buck down to the municipalities and the voters without
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  Speaker 4: providing the necessary funds to do it. So I think
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  Speaker 4: that's a huge problem. The other big issue that I
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  Speaker 4: think is, you know, not being addressed properly in Hartford
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  Speaker 4: is the over development and the the you push for,
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  Speaker 4: you know, one size fit all affordable housing, the housing
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  Speaker 4: bill that came out last year at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the year during the special session. We can spend the
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  Speaker 4: whole podcast talking about that. That's just I think it's
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's the right way to go about
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  Speaker 4: doing it. I think it's going to have unintended effects
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  Speaker 4: for this district. In particular, Wait until the owner of
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  Speaker 4: the mall figures out that they can put mixed use
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  Speaker 4: development in there without having to go before the board.
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  Speaker 4: Because the new legislation says as long as you satisfy
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  Speaker 4: various requirements. You can put in mixed use development and
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  Speaker 4: that's retail and residential in one building without having discretionary
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  Speaker 4: zoning decision on the part of the town. So and
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  Speaker 4: there is not an affordable component in there. They're not
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  Speaker 4: requiring affordable housing as part of that development. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're looking at thousands of units that could come in
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  Speaker 4: just be just by having the ZEO, the zoning enforcement
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  Speaker 4: officers sign off on it.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, I.
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  Speaker 4: Believe in smaller government, local government, you know, personal responsibility,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't think we're getting that out of Harford.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, look at the record from one party
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  Speaker 4: rule during the time at Center Maronia. This party has
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  Speaker 4: run this state for over a decade. We have some
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  Speaker 4: of the highest taxes in the country, we have the
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  Speaker 4: second highest energy bills, and we're losing people and businesses
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  Speaker 4: to other states because we just we have an economy
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  Speaker 4: that is not competitive of other states. I mean, look
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  Speaker 4: at Milford, we lost subway, losing chick so I could
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  Speaker 4: go on.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, well, and in the smaller you know
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  Speaker 1: is you know, restaurants are closing left and right right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of small businesses the Burger.
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  Speaker 4: Place and plan B Right, they just announced their closing.
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  Speaker 2: The closing.
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  Speaker 1: Uh the there was a restaurant chaos that literally opened
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  Speaker 1: and closed. I mean that could have been mismanagedment stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's I see it. I almost see
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  Speaker 1: if breweries are closing across across the state. Ye uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's my forte is you know,
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  Speaker 1: watching what you know, the restaurants are doing and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But it's tough, and like the restaurants need to raise
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  Speaker 1: their prices. You know, I work at Stonebridge and you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: prices are high, but they have to be I mean
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  Speaker 1: to manage and run.
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  Speaker 2: You know, especially a place of that size, right, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know it's yeah, it's not either, and it's not easy.
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  Speaker 4: Take the meal tax that was enacted a couple of
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  Speaker 4: years ago that was supposed to go back to municipalities
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  Speaker 4: for tourists, you know, promotion, which would be huge for Milford,
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  Speaker 4: But that's just going to the general budget.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So I just you know, we're over Connecticut doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: a revenue problem. Let me tell you that we're over taxed.
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  Speaker 4: We have a discretionary spending problem, right, and we need
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  Speaker 4: new leadership up in Hartford to you know, get our
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  Speaker 4: priorities straight.
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  Speaker 1: Now, obviously I live in Milford, but when I see
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  Speaker 1: a lot online and I.
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  Speaker 2: Can't argue with, like, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: What I don't understand is like how our taxes go
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  Speaker 1: up with like just these Yeah, you know, condo complex
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  Speaker 1: is going up, apartment building is going up left and right,
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  Speaker 1: Like I I think I know everyone that's going up,
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm driving down the post rud, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: they're sticking one.
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  Speaker 2: In here, right, you know, and like you talk with.
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  Speaker 1: Them all the talk. The mall is a tremendous tax
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  Speaker 1: revenue for the town, right, right, And I don't you
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  Speaker 1: know it also goes along with like property right. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you buy a house for a three hundred thousand, right,
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  Speaker 1: and you bought it twenty years ago, and now it's
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  Speaker 1: worth fucking eight hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't do anything to it, right.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't sell it, you didn't get any gains off
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  Speaker 1: of it, but you got to pay the taxes on
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand now, right, and then say in five
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  Speaker 1: years you go to sell it and the market crashes
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  Speaker 1: and it's worth three hundred again, you know, Like I
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  Speaker 1: don't I understand what taxes are. I get it, but
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  Speaker 1: like I never understood. And this is like kind of
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  Speaker 1: goes along with a lot of things in the world
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  Speaker 1: with like percentages on what you sell, Like what's the
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: difference if I sell, you know, this can of beer
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: for five dollars or this can of beer for ten?
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: What's really the difference, like sales tax and all this stuff. Realtors,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: you know, they get five percent, right whether they sell
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: a million dollar home or you.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Know, I I why do they get more for I don't.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just it's I know, I'm.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: All over the place with this, but it just frustrates me. Like,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I just bought a home, you know, almost
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: two years ago, and I'm not there six months, and
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: the assessment went up forty percent, right.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: You know, And and I actually bought.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Into that assessment. I get it because the prices are high.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: But who's to say that in you know, ten years,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: my house is still worth a half a million dollars.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know, right, but I'm.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Paying it like it is, right, I hear you.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I mean I bought an orange when we moved back
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: in the height of COVID, so I paid a premium
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: on my property, you know, and I think you know
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: what upsets people is values are going up across the
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: board in Connecticut. And you know, I don't know the
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: percentage of increase in Milford off the top of my head,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: but it was pretty significant. And you saw towns in
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: like Lower Fairfield County increase by eighty percent, Like in Westport,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: properties went up eighty percent. And when that happens, all
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: things else equal, your mill rate should go down. You
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: should be even though your property is worth more, you
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: should be paying less than taxes. Because again I said,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Connecticut doesn't have a revenue problem, but you guys aren't
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: seeing that in Milford. You're seeing an increase, and that
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: just tells you that despite the increase in value there,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: we have a spending problem. So you know, you're you're
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: getting whacked ways and you know, in terms of you know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: the amount of residential units that are coming in, they're
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: all great, but they are not revenue generating properties. You know,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: when you get a kid, when you get a family
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: moving in, then you have the education costs and your
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: public service costs. So I'm not against housing, but if
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: you think you're going to load up a municipality of
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: housing and increase your revenue sources. You're not, like, you
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: need the commercial base to really drive revenue to provide
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: the public services that you need. So when you prioritize
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: housing on commercial lots, which is what the housing bill
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: did in twenty twenty five, you're hurt. You're shooting yourself
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: in the foot. You're taking away commercial space for housing,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: and you're not providing the municipal revenue resources needed to
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: maintain the level of services that you have or to
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: expand them in the future without significant mill rate increases
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: or tax increases.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: So what's your plan to adjust that? Fix that? Uh?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: You know right, I mean it's it's got to be hard, obviously,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: but like like anything in life, when something gets somewhere,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it's really hard to do a U turn, you know right.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: And you know, I'd be lying to the people out
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: there to say I have a plan immediately to fix that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: But but what you can do is you can change
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: the tide. Maybe it's not as quickly as what people want,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: but I'm a firm believer in enacting you know, assessment caps,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: mill rate caps, budget caps, you know, for example, two
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: percent increase or whatever, and that. You know, I was
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: in Jersey when Chris Christy was in office, whether you
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: like Christie or not, and I've had the the fortune, right,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I had the fortune of meeting he is a nice guy.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: He was close to the law firm that that I
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: worked with down there. Huge sports fan, Mets fan and
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Cowboys fan.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Go figure. But you know the cap.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: They enacted a cap on municipal budgets during his administry
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: and it helped. It doesn't immediately solve the problem, but
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: it makes, you know, the state and municipal leaders really
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: think about what they're spending money on. So my you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: one of my priorities up there would be pushing for
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: property tax reform, first through you know, capping mill rate increases,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: municipal budget increases and if we had to even in
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: capping the amount that your assessment on your property can.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Go up revail to revail.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: So and extending the property tax credits. You know we're
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: not I think we can do more there, We can
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: give more people.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Relieve in that regard.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Rich Smith won the election, you know that pretty much
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: right after that is when the assessments came out, and
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I think my house was like two twenty two and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it went to three something, you know, yeah, just ridiculous.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And I remember they asked him about it, and I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: read that his response was, don't worry, the taxes won't
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: go up as much as your assessment did.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: And how I always read things is between the lines,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and that is, but our taxes are going.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: So if they don't go to forty and they go
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to thirty five, you're still right, you know what I mean,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and you can go back on it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: That was my promise and I kept it, right, I mean,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: pullshit to me.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: If they kept the budget flat and your assessments went up,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: then your mill rate would have gone down. You would
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: have seen the tax savings, right, But you know they didn't, right,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: if your taxes went if your taxes went up the
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: same percentage, then their spending went sky high through the roof,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: which probably did. So, you know, I just people, you know, well,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: did you.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: See the budget in the mill for this year that
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: he proposed.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I mean I've seen it. I haven't studied it, like
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Say I read page by page, but I just saw
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the number and I'm like Jesus Christ.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'll say, off the cuff, not like
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: with the legal connotation, but you know it's criminal if
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: you if you're having your milk your values in town
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: go up that much, you shouldn't be having your al
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: right go up. It's just I don't think that's good
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: sound management.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Now, is that happening in Orange as well?
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Or so Orange is in the last year of its reval,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: of its last reval.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: We're having a reveil.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: You know, the workers are on the on the ground
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: now doing this the inspections. So you know, we'll get
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: a new number next year. So we'll see what happens,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: hopefully not Are.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: You in favor of you own your house that you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: don't own property taxes anymore?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Out right? I mean, like or at a certain age
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: if you owned it first a.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Forty years, I think that we should be providing credits
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: or exemptions to veterans. Yeah, but I mean the way
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: the system works right now, you couldn't You couldn't get
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: rid of property taxes.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It just it wouldn't work.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: There's not that other source of revenue stream like you
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: know Florida with the tourist dollars and whatnot. So I
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: think you got to work within the system. And I
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: think the best way forward now, first steps is to
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: you know, let's let's enact caps municipal budgets on mill
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: rate increases, and then you know, let's work within our
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: means and get to a solid you know, fiscal management,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: and then we can see, you know, hopefully mill rates
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: go down.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So you talk economy a lot, and you know you'd
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like to see the economy that helps more than building homes,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: right or building condos and ship right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm not against building homes.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: What I'm getting at is, you know this AI ever
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: come into this, you know, so like the big fear of.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: AI is it's going to steal jobs. I don't necessarily
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you know it is.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, this big you know,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: next pandemic coming. Actually, the last guest I had on
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: talked really he said an argument, not an argument, but
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he talked about AI.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: How I've never really heard about it before, and it
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: something that made sense to me, and some of it
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I was a little confused by. But you know, he's like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it's the next industrial revolution. You know, you need these
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: data centers. He's like, you're gonna see towns in the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: midwell that are just going to be booming in ten
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: years because there's going to be so much you know
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: work work, They're going to be hiring so many people
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to build these places, right that that can basically sustain
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you know, they're talking about building you know, stuff underwater
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because the things they have to keep these places cool, right,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you know, because there's they run so hot, so a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: lot of these areas waste water.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And you know, who knows where this goes.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: With AIH When you talk about it that way, I think,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: do you ever watch the HBO series West World?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I know you're talking about I never did watched? Yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: yea yeah yeah.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Or of course Terminator with the Sky that of course,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you know I make that reference. We have some younger
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: associates that they.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Don't know what that means. They don't So like.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I drive around Orange, I drive around Milford, and I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: look in a lot of these you know, you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: these business complexes, these strip.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Malls, yeah call them. They're not all full, No, you're right,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you know, and the mall is I wouldn't say it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: on thin ice, but I've walked through it. There's a
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: lot of empty things in there.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Ye, pretty much at shoe stores and fucking you know
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: kios for getting your watch battery changed.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we only go to the mall for movies now.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'll go to Dick's or something. You know, But.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Do you see a trend like do you feel like
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: we need to get creative now and how we're going
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to generate these revenue streams in small not we're small towns,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: but in towns that you know when you drive by
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: storefronts they're boarded up or they just they're not open anymore.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: How do we Is it just we have to look
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: forward now and not try to recreate what we had
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: in the past. Like I just don't feel people go
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: out anymore. I think the younger generation. I'm in the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: restaurant business, I don't see it. I don't see the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even see them interacting with people. I've said
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this counless times on my show. Sorry if you've listened before,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: but like, I don't.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: That gen z uh. They don't drink.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I've read that drink as much. I see it firsthand.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: You know a couple of drinks, you know, they're on
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: their phones. They're probably betting on the next game over
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: my shoulder. You know a couple buddies. You know, they
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even dare approach a girl. Probably on the phone
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: they would, but not in person.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: It's it's tough to get people to like go out.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like going out to the bar, having
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a drink every once in a while, socializing people.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: But it's tough.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: That's how you make connections too, you know, and the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: bars and on the golf course and you know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Now it's like.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, Uber Eats and Amazon
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: and everything's taken over. And I first of all, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: never go through the bank drive through. I always go,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I know, to do any drive throughs. I went to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Taco Bell with my kid like two months ago.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: He said, what are you doing. I'm like, we're going in.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: He's like, well, I'm like we're going in now there's
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: like no table sleft anymore. It's like the one guy
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: was annoyed. I went in. He'said, really, I.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Go to the counter and take your owner. And I'm like, sorry, bro,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I don't ulus. I need time to know what the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: frick I want, you know, right, so I don't know, like,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: like how do you you know as a you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: potential politician, what do you say to the business the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: strip mall owners they't to call the strip.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Mall you don't mean that?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, what do you how do you ease
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: their mind that hey you know? Or I mean they
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: own the property, they're right offs for them. I get
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it right the empty bill.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: But no, it's a great question, and I think it
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: comes down to, you know, the owner knows what may
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: or may not work at the property. Municipal officials and
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: municipal employees and their land news departments kind of know
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: what's working in a town and what's not. You know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: take for example, Orange, we have you know, we're like
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the sushi capital of the world, right and for whatever reason,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: most of those restaurants are working.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Every once in a while one goes out, but like
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: they're working. So I'm a firm believer in, you know,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: give the assignment to the local official, the local population.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Let them figure out what's best for their community instead
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: of the top down, one size fits all solution coming
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: from Hartford. So you know, in terms of you know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Milford or the Boston post Road. Yeah, there's a lot
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: of strips with some vacancies, and you know, some might
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: be really good for redevelopment where you put retail on
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the bottom and some townhouse or you know, apartments on top.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Of course, yeah, and that might work, but somebody in
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Hartford can't can't possibly tell every municipality in the state
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: what's going to work on their main street. What's going
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: to work in Milford's main street, so to speak, or
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Orange main Street is really you know, depending on the
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: people in the community. So you know, maybe that's wishful
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: thinking asking a lot of local, you know people to
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: get involved. But I think in this district people are
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: passionate about where they live and they want to they
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: want to help improve the lives for themselves and their neighbors.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: So at least here, I think it would work, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I think it would work, you know, around the rest
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: of the state. But I'm only running for the fourtieh trick.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to get everybody to elect them governor.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, it's you know, it's it's sad
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to see you know, a lot of these you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: not just restaurants, but other you know, small businesses closed,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and it's hard to compete with you know, people sitting
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: on their couch they can order whatever they want.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Right, and I'm guilty of it too. Don't don't get
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: me wrong. I ordered sneakers on.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Amazon last night because I didn't want to drive up
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to the to Clinton to the crossings is the only
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: place I can get them, you know.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: So I went online.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, I I enjoy, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a Monday off and driving up the post road. And
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I don't really enjoy any of them all. But like,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: you know, going to certain you know spots that I
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: go to. I miss Bob's to be honest with you, now,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I drive out the cools, you know, I just I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: like department stores, you know, try shit on there. My girlfriend, Nope,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: there's an Amazon package every day on the front door.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Tell it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: She ends up spending more time.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Going to the store or whatever the burvers returns at
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: ups store to return everything.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just drive the call. There's so many savings too.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: But you know, if we create an economy here that
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: allows our businesses to be more competitive because we're not
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: taxing them as much, we're not imposing such high energy
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: costs on them, you know, they will begin to flourish
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: and do better. And you know, maybe it's not the
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: best example, but so my kid, my oldest, is in
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: third grade going into fourth and in the Orange system
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: they can start doing like wind instruments and string instruments
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: going into fourth grade. It gus as extracurricular activity. So
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: they add a zoom for parents. And one of the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: music teachers was saying, please don't buy the violin on Amazon.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: It's going to say one hundred bucks. There's going to
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: be seventy different options. But it's a piece of junk.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: And when your kid breaks it, and indevitably they're going
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: to our technicians that we use through the school are
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: going to say it's not worth fixing them. Right right,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: go to the local you know vendor that we have
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: and we you know, they can supposedly give us a
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: list of six or seven. You're going to spend a
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: little more money to lease it or buy it, but
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: like you're going to get a good product, right and
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: you know, that's what we need to get back to.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: And I think the way to do that is to
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: you know, and to have those local vendors, is to
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: create an economy where we're not taxing everybody to death.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: We're not hitting them with energy costs. They are through
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: the roof. You know, the second highest in the country,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: and that that's where things can start to get better
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: when we make this state more affordable to work and
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: live in.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I h lamont was Uh you know, energy is probably.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: The number one topic right now for you know, I
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: actually have solar, so do I.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I inherited it.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: The same so we're out of there.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I would never would have gotten
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: it if it wasn't on there. You know, the guys
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: come by it. Nope, keep moving. But I will say this,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it works, it does, it does work. I mean I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: do lease her own. Do you pay monthly on it?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: So I pay whatever I generate and then like we
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: we banks up. I don't know my wife's.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: So mine basically is I pay like one hundred and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: seventy a month just to have it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: But like in this no, I don't do that.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I pay based on what it's generating, OK, And then
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: like I get to use it, and if I don't
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: use up the total amount that's generated, then somehow it
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: gets transmitted to UI and I get a bank amount, yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: which is like peanuts, It's like ten bucks.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But really yeah, so my yeah, mine's a little different.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: So I pay monthly.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: It's like a thirty year lease, okay, and I'm like
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: year seven. I think the old owner got it like
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: five years ago. And uh it's you know, it's it's fine.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: But like I mean this time of year, like we
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: usually get a check back.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Ui.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: But the thing I like about it because I hate
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the heat, is I just I mean that central air
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: is on twenty four seven. I don't have to worry
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: about being nick and diamond it put the windows up
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: on a chilly night, you know, Nope, A.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: No.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: And you know, and I run a lot of stuff,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I run I got a pool, so I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: run the pool and all this. You know, it's just
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: normally I think if I think my UIV bill would
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: probably be like five to eight.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Dollars in the summertime.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Oh I bet.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: And that's being conservative. If if if I'm actually shutting
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the AC off and I'm not in the house, you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: but I'm running everything all the time, and it's nothing.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so our solar does really well. But I will
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: tell you so when I bought the house, the guy
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: that I bought it from, uh he was the tree
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: warden in Westport.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: The tree tree Warden, tree Warden.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean exactly.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: He was in charge of whether or not trees on
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: public property had to be cut down or if they
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: were encroaching.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I guess like the judge and Jerry like done out,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: that was gone.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: So I've actually had a couple of cases challenging tree warden. Yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: so they know they do.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: We get that job.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but yeah, he he probably ultimately had
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: like the final say for those decisions. But he and
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: his infinite wisdom decided to get rid of the boiler
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: in the house and he had a wood stove to
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: heat the house or our first winter. You know, we
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: tried to do it, and he did have backup like
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: baseboard electric. Yeah, so that's where this That's how I'm
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: trying to connect the story here. So you know, by January,
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: we're like this is not working, so we turn on
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: the electric baseboard and my bills were like nine hundred
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: dollars every month, so you know, we changed it after that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Well, the dude was probably he probably had a deal
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: with all the trees they took down bring the wood
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to my house.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: But I you know, so while I'm not interesting, yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: well I'm not getting hit with energy bills now because
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: my solar works. I know what it cost when it
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: didn't work, and it's astronomical. So I feel for everybody.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: All right, So you got any fundraisers coming up, let's
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: talk about how to.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going to donate a hard dollars you're thank you
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: appreciation after the show.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're we're working on a fundraiser, hopefully with
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Senator Fazzio. That's that's in the works. I had one
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: at Orange Ale House and I had.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Thought about stone Bridge. I have I know a couple
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: of people over there.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you might if you if you just reach out
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: if you want. I know a couple of people that
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: patron there a lot. Yea our mutual friend, right, Yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: that's my campaign manager. That's that's the funny thing about
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: like campaigning, Like people just tell me where to go.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not in charge of the logistics. Yeah, it's it's
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: been interesting.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Uh you haven't had one in Milford yet, have you?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: No?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I did. My kickoff was as well for.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Bio.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I saw Anchor.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Social Yeah that was as well. Attended good time, good food.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: So I didn't get to eat enough of the food
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: because at these things, like everyone, I'm just.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I had a glad hand everybody exactly. So.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: But you know, for those who are interested in donating,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I have a website. It's W four Senate dot com. Uh,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: there's a donation link there. I'm trying to qualify for
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: the Clean Election program, which which requires that I get
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: three hundred in district donations of at least five dollars
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: or more up to three hundred and forty dollars, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: then I have to raise over twenty thousand dollars that
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: can come from anywhere just as long as I have
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: the three hundred.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: In district donors.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: So anybody who's interested in the website again is OW
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: four Senate dot com.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: And I will I will put that link on the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it, post it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: When I posted.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: We're almost there, We're I got less than one hundred
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: dollars to go.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I'm told it's a thermostat thing.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: It should right right right for like the carnivals of
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: where was that our goal?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah? It should awesome.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: And uh so we were talking before the show about
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: you know, you knocked on some doors today, right, Yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I did in the ninety five degree heat. Yeah that
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: was a mistake, Yes, that was a mistake. Before you
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: get into like that. I recently just put up a
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: no soliciting sign at my house.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: It's a hot topic, and I just did an ordinance
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: and or an amendment to our ordnance and orange about solicitation.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: And the reason why I did it was I don't care.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a friendly person, you know, come to my door.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: My problem is when I say I'm not interested, it's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: just okay, sorry sir, and go on your way. Yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I had I had this kid. It was like, I
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: think he worked for Frontier. Yeah, and I have Exfinity.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I don't pay like I'm like you, my girl doesn't.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: She pays that bill. I pay the mortgage. She pays
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: all the bills, so I have nothing. I don't even
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: know what the bill is.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Careless And he's I'm like, listen, we're good. We have Exfinity.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: You know. I'm like kind of lying, but we just
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: moved in. We're kind of in a contract. He goes, oh,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: we can break the contract.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I go, listen, I'm really not and he just kept
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: going I'm going, I said, I said, but seriously, like
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I just got home from work. My dog's nipping at
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: my fucking knee right now because he wants to eat.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Do you mind?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: And he was a young kid, he was he was
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: a gay, which I appreciated. I just want to get
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: him like ten bucks for his time and he went on.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what, I went right on
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Amazon and I got a no soliciting sign.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: So it sat on my.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Kitchen table for a couple of days, maybe a week
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: or two. And if I said, she's like, you're gonna
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: put this out? I said sure, So I literally put
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it out. I stick it in the front, right in
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: front of my mailbox, right into the front steps to
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: get in the house.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I no. Lie.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Two hours later, ding dong on the fucking ring cam.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I go out there and there's this kid and I'm like, hey,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: how you doing?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Not the same kid?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: And he's looking at my solar and he goes, hey, yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I'm with so and so solar.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I saw that you had solar. I go, listen, did
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: you not?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Now I got the sign. So I'm like, did you
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: see the sign right there says no soliciting? Yeah, he goes, yeah,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I saw it. I'm not soliciting. I go, are you
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: looking for any kind of contract or monetary value? To
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: switch off the solar. He goes, yeah, I go, do
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you don't understand the definition of soliciting?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not. I'm just trying to sell you. Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I think he just walked right into that. Do me
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a favor.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: When you see those signs in all the houses in
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood, just know that, don't go to that house
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: right now. I don't think that does that now as
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a politician, because Maroney's people come by my house, I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: always get his ship hanging on my fucking door and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: it goes right in.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: My trash, right, Is that no, that's not that's not
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: soliciting or is it No?
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't think so.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I mean there's two schools of thought there in terms
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: of what a politician should do.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: You're not going to stop at a house. You're not
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: going to go past the house that has it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: So today I went up to one door. You know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: there was nothing, no sign visible from the road saying,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: you know, no solicitation. But when I got to the
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: door there was a sticker that's had no solicitation.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: So I did.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I chose not to ring that doorbell. I just put
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: my hanger there and left. I was knocking with Ray
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Collins yesterday, He's run in front for the house. Ray
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: will not even go up to the door if he
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: sees a no solicitation side, which you know, I respect
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: that and maybe I haven't encountered that yet. I've only
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: been knocking for three days. But yeah, I mean it's
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: different those You know, any law out there that says
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: no solicitation in terms of business is not going to
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: apply to political speech.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: So now is it not to interrupt you? But if
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you have a no soliciting sign on your lawn, is
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: that is that law?
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Is that trespassing?
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: It all depends on like the local ordinance. Yeah, so
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: you know sneak peek Orange. Well, when they amend the
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: ordinance may have a provision that says if the property
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: owner has put a no solicitation signed up, you should.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Not go there.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that has not been enacted yet.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I can get off my law.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but it's a it's a big deal.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, people knowing people don't want to be bothered
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: after they get home from work, and I don't blame them,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: so I don't. I mean, I'll answer the door because
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: I'm a sucker, and I'll answer the door and then
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I'll politely ask them to leave, but.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I always hope somebody just is at the door is like,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a million dollars for your home, right,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, bye, But yeah, that never happened. It's
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: happened at Milford before, but it's always the beach houses.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, so you so you well, you actually
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: went to a.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: House today and you ended up talking to somebody.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I made it to nine houses today, so I had
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: to My oldest son has type one diabetes and today
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: was his last day of school, so we had to
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: pick up all the extra medical supplies. And the nurse
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: asked that we we get there by twelve fifteen and
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: school ended at twelve forty five, and being that it's
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: the last day of school, you know, he wanted to
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: be there for the for the full half day. Fine,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: so perfect opportunity. I'll pick up the medicine, put it
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: in the car, and I'll go knock on a couple
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: doors and you can leave that open.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I'll take some Yeah, thank you.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: And first first door I knocked on was was an
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: older lady, very nice, but she kept me there for
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: ten minutes because I didn't I didn't know how to
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: politely say sorry, I need to go knock on your
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: neighbor's door.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And it was it was so hot and I was
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: drenched by the time I was done there.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: And you know, I got the next couple, but then
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: the next house on the list was just a little
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: too far for me to get there and get back
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: to school on time. But yeah, she just wanted to
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: talk and very nice lady, but not politics. Wanted to
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: talk about kids. And it's amazing what you know what
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: people got her vote? Hopefully, you know, I hope.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think a lot of people.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: It's funny, like I think if you actually went if
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: you went door to door, like not you, but like
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: if if everyone was actually polled in this country on
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: like let's say ten questions, some political, some I don't know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: current events, you'd be surprised.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Of, Like how many people. It always it always.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Now you're in law, like it always amazes me, Like
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I know you're not a criminal, you know you're not
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a trial but like how some of these cases. I
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: was selected for jury duty for the Valley case here
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: in Milford, the kid that stabbed the kid in Shelton.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I knew the house party, the house part.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew way too many people involved.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just not like you know, I knew names and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: parents of the kids, and I was immediately recused.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was out.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: But uh, a lot of people, as much as you
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: see everyone's cell phone, a lot of you don't know
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: what they're looking at.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know what's going on around them.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: You know, you'd be amazed at the number of homes
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: in our district that don't have a registered voter. It's amazing. Yeah,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: but Jerry, dude, it So my wife served on a
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Jerry a federal murder gang murder case in Boston.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Oh Jesus.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy. While she was in that last
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Yeah, it could have been like a
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: whole month. Like she she was a grad student in
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: her PhD program and she had to take time off,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: and you know, they had to obviously protect that and
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: pay her whatever that they had to pay her. But
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: like she thought she was being followed on the t
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: once and like you know, she had a conference with
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the prosecutor and defense counsel and the judge to talk
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: talk about it. But I see, it'll never happen because
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I am in a turn but like I'd really like
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: to serve about a jury and see how that works out.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: But well, how actually it's funny like when this case
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: like ended, I was like, man, I wish kind of
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: wish I was on that because who in the right
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: mind thought that kid at least shouldn't get I think
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the lawyers reached too far for what the charge that
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: they brought upon was.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: That's why they're retrying it or trying to. But now,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: but I know all the I know all the ins
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: and outs of really what happened.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Then I just people I know, and uh, that kid
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: should be serving sometime. He shouldn't be walking.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm aware of it, but I yeah, yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: it's just one of.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Those things like unfortunate, you know, obviously very but you
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: know it's like the whole Carmelo Anthony and that kid.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel, you know, this has become I
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: don't know what news you watch. I don't you know. Obviously,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I know you're a Republican, so maybe more Fox'll.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Answered the question. I can't watch TV because my kids
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: have the TV, so I.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I tried to tell everybody when I talk politics yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, you watch Fox News. I'm like, if
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I had a better option, I would like, I don't
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: really Fox, this is just as bad as them all.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: And case in point, their lead headline for the last
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: four days is basically dividing, you know, the races over
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: this case. You know, it leads on you know, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: they're trying to side with the whites, you know, and
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's if they never reported on it, there wouldn't
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: be such division.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I always say it's a big psyop, the whole whole.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: You know, mainstream media like they want the vision. It
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: creates ratings, it creates.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Everything they want to show. They want to show, you know, the.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Black mom saying my son's innocent and the white mom
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: say blah blah blah.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And then your races, you know, they want that.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: And again like if your neighbor is if I'm white,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: my neighbor's black, or I'm a republic and my neighbor's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: a Democrat, if I just walked across the street and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: had dinner with them and just talk sports or talk
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: about you know, you do all have the same goals
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: in life, you know, raise your family, make sure your
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: kids raise up.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: You know, you want to see them get married all that.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: You want to pay your bills, you want to you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: provide for your family and go on vacations and live
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that American dream. Right.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like, you know, turn it all off.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Fortunately for me, I'm like, I don't want to say,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like I'm awake, but when I watch the news, I
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: watch it with a cynical lens, like I almost laugh.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Like when I saw that headline, like this morning, I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: was at work and they're still talking about this, and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: they bring it like Cardi b into the conversation and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: what she said and what Jasmine Crockett said, and like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: or what Charles barklay.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, and it's like, all right, guys, like just
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: turn it off.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: Again, my kids control the TV, and when I'm in
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: the car, I'm listening to sports talk.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: My kid doesn't even watch TV.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but like I think people w a fan.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I grew up less than.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I do. Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I don't mind him, but I just think he gets
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: so not out of care about like I think he
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: gets so vulgar.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like, did you really need to go there.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: He's you know, so he was down in Jersey doing
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: politics before he came to the fans.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: So he's like a shock jock so to speak.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I actually I love his voice. Yeah, he's just one
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: of those guys. If he's on, I'm going to listen
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of like I do like his show.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Imus was like that. I grew up with Imus with
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: my mom in the car driver.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Say I listened to the fan growing up. So but yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I wasn't what I was going to say. I think
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: people just want to be heard and respected and think,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: you know, uh, to the extent that the politician out
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: there is listening to you and and voting in what
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: he or she thinks is the district's best interest, right,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: and maybe you disagree with that, But as long as
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: you can have a communication both ways with the person
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: and understand why they voted, I think that's what people
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: really want to hear, as opposed to the media sensation
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: of you know, this group hates that group or whatever
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: that you were alluding to.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: A moment ago.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it just it's it's funny like I, you know,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: my my girlfriend and I we we don't really share,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: we share it, we share interests. But you know, when
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it comes to this stuff, she like, you know, she
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: rolls her eyes. You know, like, I believe in a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: lot of things that I won't even say on this show.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: If you want to listen to some other shows about
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: some of my conspiracy theories.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Aliens, right, actually know, I mean I.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I think I believe in aliens, but not from outer space. Okay, Yeah,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I'm a little wacky.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Like deep sea aliens, beyond the.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Ice wall kind of aliens. I believe the Earth is flat. Absolutely.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: That's fun. You know, it puts me to bed at
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: night as I scroll down to Twitter and reels. And
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I bought it. I bought a camera the other day
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and my girlfriend's just shaking her head at me. She's like,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: what do you how much was that? And I'm like
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: a lot. She's like what. I go, it's used, so
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I got it on a sale. It's basically but I
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: justified it. She's like, what is it. I'm like, well,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: it's a Nikon P one thousand. She's like, what the
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: fuck is that?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it's one hundred and twenty five zoom.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like literally NASA. NASA forced Nikon not
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: to make it anymore. So she goes online and she's like, well,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: they make it. They make a P one thousand or
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: eleven hundred. I go, yeah, but that's digitally enhanced. It's
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: not doesn't have the same zoom capabilities.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: It's this one that she goes. Well, she goes, oh, wait,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: is this your flatter shit? Like I go, yeah, I
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: just want to see how far I can see on
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: a flat plane.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: She's like, you're crazy.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I got nothing else to do. I got
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: nothing else to do. I'm so busy. And I get home,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: like I just go into these little it's fun. I don't.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I like to convince people that I do think these things,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: but I like to Actually, you know, I work in
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: an aero technol, you know, an aeronautics fucking company, right,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And what I always say to these guys and oh,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: when they had the space launch, you know, a couple
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: months ago, and I just heard one of my employees
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: and how you know, he was at his grandparents' house
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and they were talking about the Earth is flat, this
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: is all fake.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: And I watched it with my family and I'm like,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: you know, this is fake, right, And they're like, shut up.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, let's watch I go wait, I go,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: just wait till when they get into the outer atmosphere.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: It's going to go to like a artist and like
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: the artist like thing. Sure enough, it did. Like they're
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: telling you what's happening right now, and I'm like, well, where's.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: The satellite out and out of space watching this rocket
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: come up through the atmosphere. I've never seen it and whatever,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: if you want to listen to me, I've done other
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: podcasts on this stuff. But and she's like and she's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: just like, okay, whatever, whatever, And I'm just what I'm.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Just telling you.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: You know, I can't say I agree with you on
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: this one. That's fine, but we watch I watched it
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: with my kids. My mother's big into space. In fact,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: she wants to just be shot up into space after
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: she dies. But you know, I don't remember what we
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: were watching, maybe CNNA or what I cut the cords
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: or whatever, like the free Like yeah, so it was
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: going up and then all of a sudden they cut
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: and the camera angle was just like the back of
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: the shuttle, so all you could see was just like
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: a part of the shuttle and nothing else. So it
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: was very it's like, very anti climatic and would probably
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: feed into your conspiracy theory.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's funny. It all stemmed from like
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: the moon landing.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: You know, when I was younger, they had the old,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: grainy conspiracy theory documentaries and it was kind of a joke.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: And then now I'm like, well, maybe they really didn't
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: go there. Who knows, I don't know.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I will say this, like, never trust anything NASA or
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the government tells you because it's probably a lie.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. It's it's cool to to think
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: outside the box because I.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Think I think what we were taught in school when
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: we were young was you know, you could probably go
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: back to a lot of things and just realize, well,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I probably wasn't or true or whatever. I
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: don't any specifics for you right now, but like, you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the Rockefellers, you know, pretty much created that whole school system,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you know, in the early twenties.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Right right, I won't.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: I was a history major, so that requires you to
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: learn about history or how to teach history or research history.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: So you know, obviously there's a lot of different ways
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: you can view something, so I hear you.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, how how would you describe, like, well, being
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: a history you know teacher, you have a degree in
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: it and all that. Like how how would you I
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: don't know, It's hard to explain, but how would you
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: explain history to someone that?
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: How would you?
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: How would here's here's my question. How would you tell someone?
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: How would you tell them to research it? You know
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: how everyone says do your own research, all right? Where
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: would you direct somebody to research something on his street,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: let's say World War two or whatever, something from the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: forties and fifties that really were just relying on you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: granny footage and everything came from the news. You know,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: there was there wasn't There wasn't independent reporting, there wasn't Twitter,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: there wasn't you know, boots on the ground that weren't registered.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: You know, you know what I mean, right right?
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, if you're in sources, who would you.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Get primary primary sources? I look that I think the
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: only way you could do it is read as much
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: as you can, right right. And I don't don't read
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: one book on it or one article, read multiple books
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: and articles and tried, you know, to the extent it's
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: a controversial.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Time though, or like, yeah, I mean you're going to
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: read a book that somebody wrote in twenty twenty four,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you say, go back to you know, back then and
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: read different Yeah.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, if you can find primary sources in terms
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: of you know, then reporting in whatever newspaper was around it, Yeah,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: so find that and try and read as many, you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: books that have been authored by historians on the topic.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think people get tunnel vision in that
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: they only want to read, you know, something that aligns
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: with their preconceived values. And in terms of something being
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: if it's a controversial issue, right, not necessarily a historical event,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: but but you should try and read as much and
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: be a critical thinker, right. And I think you know,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: we've kind of gotten away from that. But I mean
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: in the law, to take it back to that, there's
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: always you know, two sides to the story, right, and
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: the facts are somewhere in between that, so you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: you got it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: You have to done.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: And it's not as easy to figure out when you're
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: reading an author's book of he or she has an agenda,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: like for a lawyer, obviously I'm advocating for my clients.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: So the judge knows I'm pushing my client's story and
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: that you know, that's really like all life is is
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: a story. Who's telling the story of what? And that's
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: how I approach every case that I have, And I
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: do a lot of property tax appeals, which is really boring,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: but I I try and tell a story to the judge.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: You know, oh, this income is wrong because this should
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: have been that like attributed to the property. But it's
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: a story, and people want to read stories, so whoever's
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: the most compelling story usually wins, right, So.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I find it fascinating, this flatter thing, because you know,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I started following as a goof, and I.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Believe me, I'm not one way or any other.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I really don't care. I just like I just like seeing,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you know, the other side of it and what people
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: like to say. And when I bring it up to people,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: they like get angry, like you're so dumb. You know
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: you've seen your whole life. The earth's a globe. I'm like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: My whole life. I'm just going by where people show me.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: But why do you care? Like, why do you care what?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I think?
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: You sound like a lot of my friends who are
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: just like you.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Know. So my wife's from Pennsylvania. Yeah, outside of reading, Okay, Okay,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: so she she'll probably yell at me when she listens
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: to this, but like, sarcasm was not a thing out there,
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: so she's had a very hard time dealing with my sarcasm.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: My friend, my friends are all super sarcastic.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I grew up on it.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's just you know, I will have friends
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: who will do what you do. They'll go to the
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: bar and they're like push flat Earth. People will get
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: so mad and they'll just you.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Know, like we're like like we're Northeasterners, you know, so
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: we know how we know. It's like like you give
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: us an inch on a like a bar conversation, we're
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: going to take the mile.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna keep me. I don't care if
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I believe it in her as.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: So hopefully my kids are learning how to respond to sarcasm.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: It's a great skill to learn.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: It really is street smarts, you know, and and if
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you catch a guy or someone you know, and if
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: you get onto it, you know.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I I saw this. It wasn't a quote. It was
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: something I was I was watching.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: It's some sight I don't know what the what the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: thing is, but it's about, like, uh, about how you
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: perceive yourself, you know, in this world.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Today, A and the and the kind of the wasn't
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: the kind of the quote was?
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: The guy asked the person sitting across the table from him,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: do you know your great grandparents' names?
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Do you?
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: On my dad's side, I do, because it's William down
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: but I ended that streak my my father and my
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: mother refused to name me William. My my dad has
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: traced our family back to the Mayflower and beyond, so
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: so I know my great grandfather's name, but I bet
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of people don't.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the point of it was, you know, do
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: you even know their legacy? You know outside of you know,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: if there was a legacy, a legacy, legacy. You know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: my grand my grandparents, you know all all four. I
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: never knew my grandfather or dad before I was born,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: but you know, the other grandfather and two grandmothers, you know,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: great people, But I didn't know their parents. I couldn't
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: even tell you their parents' names.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: And the point of it was just to you know,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: live live for now, like in one hundred years no
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: one's going to remember you, you know, probably, you know,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: and it's just like you're just gonna be another speck
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: in the dust.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: So while you're here, don't worry about what other people
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: think of you. You know, be good for others.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: You know. I can't preach that enough, you know. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Braden's a great kid. And I you know, it's a kid,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: but you know, he's.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Good moral values, and he understands to be a good person.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: And you know, one of the greatest things I ever
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: remember from him, he was and I just met him,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: so I didn't know him until he was eight years old.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: And I call my kid because his father's out of
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the picture, and I basically raised him since eight and
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: he come he was at east Shore h east Shore
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Middle School and he was sixth grade. He just come
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: out of the grade school. They were right around the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: corner Orchard Hills, got it.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: And he comes home from school. I'm like, you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: ho's school. There's good. You know, he's always boring, you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, anything happened?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: And he goes, well, you know, there was a special
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: needs kid and he got lunch and he went and
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: sat by himself, and I saw him so I just
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: went over and sat with him.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: It's fantastic.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I was like almost crying. Ship really like that's awesome. Right,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: It's like those little things in life that could mean
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: so much.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: It makes a parent really proud one when yeah, my
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: kids have done stuff like that, and you know, it
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: makes you really proud and makes makes you think of
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: doing something right.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Right, right, So I mean it's just now he's like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: screw life.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Well, he's a teenage He's like, give me a car,
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: and I'm out right, he's focusing on the car.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I tell him, I say, hey, said, listen, you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm glad he's going to Platt because
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: he's getting a trade.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: He wants the weld and he listen.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: That is a great path to go down.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: It's just right.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, if somebody asks me if they should go
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: into law, I tell him no, do you want a
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: three year root canal going to law school. It's just
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: there's too many lawyers and it's it's too hard to
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: make money. But oh yeah, oh uh you know, we
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: we have a so research is no longer with books, right,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: it's all online. Right, And when I started practicing, you know,
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: you type in uh a question to the online it's
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: called West We use West Law, and uh, it'll pop
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: up cases that touch on the topic. You got to
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: read the case and then you know, uh go into
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: the cases that that case cites. Now you type in
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: a question and it will tell you. It'll give you
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: a summary of what it thinks the law is with
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: all the citations, and you still have to do your
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: own independent research. But AI has become your first year associate.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: So yeah, which you know, for some firms means they're
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: not hiring as many. You know, for us, we've hired
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: a couple and it's all. It's all what you put
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: into it. AI is only as good as the user.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: So you're training attorneys much differently now. But no, it's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: it's a big impact in the legal industry for sure, for.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: The positive I think.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: So, I mean you can ask you guys, right, there's yeah.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I use it at work. I mean I use it
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: for like, you know, sending emails to the president.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure it's nice right, you know,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: or or it'll bring up, like you know, if I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: don't know every part of these other.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Yeahtors, it will help me there.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's been for the positive. I mean,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: you will get It hasn't happened to our firm, thankfully,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: But there are a lot of uh, not a lot,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: but there's cases coming out where lawyers, you know, AI
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: hallucinates and it creates cases because AI wants to answer
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: your question. It doesn't want to come back and be like,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know, right, So it for whatever reason, it hallucinates.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: It creates cases, and those have been submitted to the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: court and the court finds out that it's not a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: real case. Yeah yeah, really, Yeah, attorneys have been sanctioned
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: big time.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: So you still so if that happens, you still have
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: to fucking do your own research hundred and make sure
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: this is legit. Yeah.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: If you're not, if you're not reading the case and
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: you're signing the plate, your name's on the document and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: you submit it to the court, you're in trouble. If
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: that's not a real case. Really yeah, yeah, you.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Know, I watched videos going back to conspiraus things, people
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: asking chatch ebt or whoever questions. Yeah, and and basically
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're lying the AI, but they're I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: guess they are lying.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: They're not saying right, they're just sometimes you know, they'll
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: tell you I don't know, right, I mean, it's.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: All stifling through the gazillions of megabytes of information on
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: the on the internet, right, and that's where they cove
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: everything from. Right, it's not out of thin air. So
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: you know, they actually make it. They're like, shit, we
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: So they make something up that sounds good.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: I personally haven't run into that. I mean I've I've
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: run into AI reading a case or a statue and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: not summarizing it correctly or like honing in on one
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: sentence that sounds like something that's responsive to my request. Yeah,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: but then you read the rest of the statue or case,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: you know, that's not actually the full like reasoning, and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: so therefore I can't use that.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: No, it is not a lot of what you're based
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: on too. When you you know, do these cases, oh yeah,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: you go off, you go off of comps basically, right, you.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, So it's it's a learning curve. You know,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: we're constantly I'm taking a lot of like continue continuing
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: education classes on it that we have to. But it's
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: here to stay, it's not going away.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: So all right, well let's talk a little sports.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yankees. No, I won't talk to them. Actually, Judge, Judge
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: is hurt.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: You guys are still playing all right though. A Red
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Sox fan, So I can't I mean, I can't stay
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: my ownership. I can't stay my management. I can't stand
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: half my team. We literally we have a guy leading
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: off tonight. His name is Mickey Gasper.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I ever heard of him? No, yes, exactly right. You
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: know who's batting third.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you the Red Sox line up, I know, well, no,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: you might know this guy Kinder.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, he used to play for you guys, right, yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: I know. Chapman doesn't want to be traded to the Yankees.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, apology whatever.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: So the first baseball game and you'll say he must
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: have a no trade clause or why would he care?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: He must?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, first baseball game I went to was Red Sox Yankees.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Yankees lost.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: We took the bus from high Planes and Orange down
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: to the down to the stadium and oh, I will
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: my dad. I must have been in like third or fourth,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: fourth or fifth grade. Yeah, uh, you know I've been
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: a Yankee fan since then. Unfortunately for my grandmother who
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: was a huge Red Sox fan. Makes you rest in peace.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: But uh so you saw the four that stretch.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: I saw it.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: My family was at the We went to the David
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Wells perfect game because it was Beanie Baby day, so
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: that was the only way we get my sister.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I hate the Yankees, but I remember exactly where I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: was that day, and I remember the next day reading.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: How hungover he was.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: So we weren't the nose bleeds, hey whatever. And there
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: it was the six or seventh inning, and I was
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: sitting next to my other and she goes, this game
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: is boring and it's you know, hit her lagging, it's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: no hit her like a perfect ya.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Still.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm a big baseball fan.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: So actually, if you if you look up there see
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: well no, you kind of got to get up there. Yeah,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: that's Wells pitches perfect game. Now on top of that,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: that's Wells.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: But that's my father.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: My father's name is David Wells.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: He cut out, so my grandmother cut out his picture
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: of his head and put it on David.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: So my father passed away two years ago. Relics thank you.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: As one of the relics I took out of his
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: house as much as I hate to have a Yankee
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: on one of my walls and my dad's on it.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: That's funny.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I remember when he pitched that perfect game,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Everyone's like busting his possible.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: You got a perfect game.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: But but you know what, I lived in Boston with
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: my now wife for three years and Fenway is a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: fun standing Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Did you ever have the balls to wear a Yankee jersey? There?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: That's actually not that bad. So I funny. I'll do
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: a quick, quick Yankee Red Sox story. Remember the single
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: playoff game they had about four years ago.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Three years ago yet, so me and my buddy were
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: both Red Sox fans. My buddy's son's a Red Sox fan,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: and my kid is a Yankee fan.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: So we actually timed it right.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: We guessed they were gonna play because what it comes
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: down the last game of the year, so many things
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: have to happen.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: We're like, screw it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I booked a hotel room, he buys the tickets, not
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: even know if there's a game whatever, So it happened.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: You know, it all comes together. So we go up
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: there and what a game. By the way, it was awesome.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: I've been to a world series game where David Ortiz
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: hit a home run.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Wow, And I thought it was insane when they threw
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: out judge at the plate right and we were right
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: behind third base. We had actually really good seats. We're
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: about fifteen rows back. I've never felt that stadium shake
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: more when that happened, because gian Carlos Daning hit like
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: a fucking right. He should have had three home runs
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: that game. He fucking he had like two singles in
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: a double off the off the Green Monster. And but
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: we had this kid sitting next to us, right and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Yankee fan. We were kind of in like a little
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Yankee section.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Because Ryan, Yeah, the Yankee dugout okay.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Our section was so great.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Like I just I feel like you watch all these
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: videos online of people like brawling the show, like you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: guys are.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: Just mental, like it's a sports or how about the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: guy throwing the egg at Wemby after that?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, dude.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: So this kid sitting next to us and he's probably
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: in his mid twenties from from the Bronx, and I
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: just start shooting the ship with him.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, Bravery, you to come up.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how'd you get up? Here. He's like, well,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: you know, the game came.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I bought a ticket that cost me three hundred dollars.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I took the train up because I couldn't get a
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: flight to the Logan for cheap.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, the train's not cheap.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: No, I spent like four on os round trip. It's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: probably more than the uber less. I think, right, and
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: he goes, I go, I tell you stand out.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I goes, no, I'm going home tonight. I go, what,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: I go, You're not even staying the night. He's like, no,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: I don't have the money. And then boom, fucking Xander
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Bogart sits a two run homer and I'm like, might
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: as we was leaving out, dude, and like fuck me
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: and him the whole night. We had a great time.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: And Patriots games all the time with people, and I'm
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: just like, I see these stupid things in the stand.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: I know alcohol is involved, but I'm triggering at all
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: these games. I'm not being an asshole to people. I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: don't care root for your team. Now. There are times
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: when people are like so stupidly loud and knoxious. Up,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, actually, what game was I at? I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: was at a game like last fall, and I was
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: with my kid and there was this kid behind it.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Oh I was at a Where was that? Oh was at?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: He was at the Patriots Giants game.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: It was a Monday night football and we had there
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: was this guy behind us, and my kid is a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Giants fan, of course, and he was just like now
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: he's starting talking about like.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: This.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I finally turned around, like yo, kid's fifteen years old. Yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: like really, and like that guy's wife was embarrassed and
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: that was it.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: It was over. But you see the stuff on the line.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: People like, right, yeah, people are very embolden, especially abolcohol.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: And you're a Vikings fan, I am.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: How'd that happen?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: So?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Well, football's funny because when you grow up.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: I don't have a good well I have a good
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: a reason it's not good. So growing up, you know,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: all my friends we would play techmo football.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Oh it's great.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I I picked the Viking. I was like
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: ended up picking the Vikings every time. So that's how
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: I became a Viking fan.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Because who was on the Vikings team?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: So I'm talking like the first tech my yeah, the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: best one like Anthony Carter bo Jackson.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: One, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, where you
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: can only pick four players.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Ye yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: So I think the Vikings had I think Sean Salisbury
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: was the quarterback, and they had Anthony Carter as yeah,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: one of the receivers, and I can't remember who the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: other ones were. But yeah, that's how I ended up
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: being a Vikings fan because everybody else. I had a
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: good friend who was a Steelers fan. I had a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: friend who was a Rams fan, so you, like, none
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: of us were local, and I just ended up picking
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: the Vikings And sorry for me for the rest of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: the rest of my fandom.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: What's weird is I have like ten guys at work
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I'll die hard bike.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of us around the country. Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys I get for people like our age you,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: but like there wasn't really good teams or you couldn't
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: really watch it.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: It was the Nine Cowboys I was on, so you
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: just gravitated towards them. Thank god I stayed a Patriots fan.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I went for the rough times, but you
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: had a good run.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: We had a good run, and hopefully we got another
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: good run coming.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: I was a little surprised by the super Bowl. I
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: thought they were gonna put in a better show.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, it sucked.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I think it was just one of those things where
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: there was, you know, three games of film on really
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: how to.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Get to him.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: You know, he played the three top defenses and then
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: he played another top defense right right, They had no
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: O line, the wide receivers didn't step up, but they
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: were only down twelve and start the fourth quarter right.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I ended up getting away from him in the fourth
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: neither here nor there, right. But so I'm looking forward
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: this year now. A J.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Brown is gonna help, and I think.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sleep with any of the teammates.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: That's Diggs. Things is going.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll finish on a little basketball. The Knicks game
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: was crazy the other night. I love the NBA, I
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: always have, but I hate this form of it right now.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I just hate the three pointers. My Celtics are guilty
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: of it as sin. They won a championship doing it,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: And excuse me, but it took him out this year
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: against the.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Seventy six ers team that the Knicks swept right out.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how to watch it.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: It's tough because you know, no lead is safe as
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: we saw the other night, and that's why, you know,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: if you're up forty, I guess it's right.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: But now I'm going to admit that I went to
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: bed and I made my nine year old, who was
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: a huge Knicks fan, go to bed at halftime, and
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: so he missed a Wemby put back. But yeah, I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: grew up watching og Sorry, right, Yeah, I grew up
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: watching Jordan and Ewing and all those guys and Barkley
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: and it's just a different type of game and I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: I really enjoyed basketball that Yeah, you know, I watch
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: playoff basketball now and you know we root for the Knicks,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: but yeah, too many. There's not enough big guy putting
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: the ball down to the center posting up.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: You know I missed that game. Yeah, so.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do you so you're a Jordan guy?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: I mean you like what I'm saying, is you grew
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: up in.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I always have to defend Jordan.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I hate to do it because I'm a Celtics guy.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I can't say Larry because Larry just didn't play long
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: of Larry was. I still think like I would take
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Larry number one over anybody. I just think he was
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: so smart at the game. Again, I'm a homer with it,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, like he just he
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: would he would be the guy I want to take
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: the shot. He was a ship talker. He was awesome
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and I've met so that being said, so these Lebron guys.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Vote for Larry Bird. So these Lebron.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Guys, you know, like they're like, oh, fucking Jordan, and
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: they try to compare stats. Listen, the technology to keep
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: your body the way it is back then was not
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: the same, and Jordan had his flaws.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: He was a gambler, a drinker, smoke cigars.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: He you know, the Washington years probably ruined a little
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: like tarnish his legacy a little bit, sure, because he
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: just didn't win there and he kind.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Of gained weight and he wasn't the same. He wasn't
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that nineties, that eight years, and he took
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: to like if he didn't take two years off, they
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: probably would have won. So probably, I mean they probably
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: went straight.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Who knows.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just it was just one of those
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: things when you watch the really great athletes, you just
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: know at some point of that game there, right, it's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: not Lebron to me, Lebron is great, don't get me wrong,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: But like I hate these young kids that never saw
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Jordan play right, saw live like I saw Wayne Gretzky live.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: These guys were like amazing, Dion Sanders. I used to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: watch when you go play the Giants, amazing guys to watch.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: They commanded, like your attention, Like Lebron's one of those guys.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he just I mean, he's like four and
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: six in the finals. Getting there is a great accomplisent.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: Right, I mean it's all relative, you know.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: I think we look back on our childhood and say,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: like that team was awesome or that that player was awesome, right,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: and then you look back fondly on it. But yeah,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: I think he's you saw more of a team get out.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: I'll relate it to what I know best, lacross. I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: played lacrosse in college, and I coach look lacrosse now
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: for my kid, and I try and preach a team
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: effort and and you know, move the ball, like I
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: have two stud kids who are unbelievable even at third grade.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: But I try, you know, hit the open guy, and
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  Speaker 4: I know you can dodge the guy and shoot and
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna score. But hit the open guy, get your
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  Speaker 4: teammate involved in. I'm not a basketball kind of sore,
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  Speaker 4: but I I remember the game back in the day.
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  Speaker 4: Is moving the ball around more, yeah, than the one
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  Speaker 4: on one stuff now that you see, and that I
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  Speaker 4: don't find that fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I mean even the Lakers are the eighties,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, they were the showtime Lakers, right, they
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: would pass a fast breaks.
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  Speaker 2: Three guys would handle the ball, right, boom boom boom,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: watch like we're watching the hockey fast break.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Knicks wrap it up, not maybe not
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night, but wrap it up.
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  Speaker 4: In a moment matter because the whole sports talk radio
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  Speaker 4: is touching the money all week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Two.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so here's my thing.
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  Speaker 1: They fucked up Game two, San Antonio. Yeah, so when
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: you got the rebound, they should have called the timeout.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Twelve seconds left, you call the timeout. The worst case
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: scenario going overtime. So he decides to fucking pass it.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: The Castle's probably thinking the calling time out. He turns
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  Speaker 1: his back to him. Whatever end of the game. They
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: lose by one and they and he rims out a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: shot at the end. Game three, they went a good,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: hard fuck game and then Game four obviously you don't happen.
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  Speaker 2: They're up twenty nine and they lose.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: They could easily be up three to one heading home
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: to seal it, right, I all, especially in this sport,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I've seen so many crazy things that the Patriots Super
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Bowl against Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like, like, I this is what I hate and
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: love about New York. They think it's over.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: You know, they were mob in the streets and beating
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: up cabs and just being you know, assholes in the street.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: And I you know, let's just assume Santonio O wins
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  Speaker 2: right tomorrow night, they're home.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't won a home game yet, all right, so
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: street two we're going back to New York or hasn't
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  Speaker 1: played good at home except for that you know, twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight minute stretch, right and it's not even like twenty
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  Speaker 1: minute stretch and a half.
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  Speaker 3: So uh, I think the next wrap it up. I
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: think they have to be tomorrow. Yeah.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Do you think the league your conspiracy? You think the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: league allows it. They don't want to extend this out.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: It's more money. Seven game series get way more money
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: than five minue series.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: Keep calling fouls on the next right, Yeah, yeah, I
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: hear you. I mean that what Wemby did to Brunson
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: was that it was a flagrant in my book, you
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: can't pull a guy down by hair. What was that
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: game to h three?
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  Speaker 2: Remember they lost Game three?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Right, but I think you gotta give the next a.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Lot of credit. They never back down. They never give up,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: you know, like you know you're down thirty. Hey, they're
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: a gritty team, right, Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: I like Brunton. Not many guys on the team I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: don't like, honestly, I don't like. I'm not rooting for him.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: But like they win, they deserved it for and they
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: just plowed through the East, like plowed through them. Celt
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: is kind of that two years ago. But like I've
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: never seen.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Every close out game, Like, if the Knicks win Themorrow
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Night by twenty five, I wouldn't be surprised because every
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: close out game they've had, they've just the team.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: It's not a contest, you know, to some degree, they're
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: very similar to the champion Celtics from last year.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: They're like gritty teams, just you know, playing hard. Your three, Yeah,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: you know exactly your threes in this league, you're gonna
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: exactly so.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: But all right, oh and let's wrap it up with
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  Speaker 2: all right, election day is it's.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: What first Tuesday in November. You don't know the date,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: but you know election day now is not a day.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, let's just check.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Out California right now. So I want everyone to get
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  Speaker 2: out and vote.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, whether you vote for me or not.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: No, no, I'll be he's going to be political about it.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: What's the website again?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: Again, it's o W four Senate dot Com. That's f
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: O R not the number for it. So o W
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: four Senate dot Com. And i'd appreciate, you know, if
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  Speaker 4: anyone's willing to help out with the campaign. I'm all
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: my really good followers, please, you know, thank you, yes, yes,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: And that's that will help tremendously get the message out.
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  Speaker 2: So that's O W four f O U R Senate
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: dot com.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Uh, f o R not four, not the number four.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, why did I do that?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Was?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: That's a hold on?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: That's the talisker you brought here? Yeah, I screwed it up, right,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: You got a little story about it.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: I just this is my favorite scotch My wife and
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: I before kids, we went to we did a two
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: week excursion to Scotland and England with my best friend
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: and his wife, and you know, like we went, we
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: took up a car ride up to the Isle of
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Sky where where this is distilled. And they'll joke that
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: I slept through most of the car ride up there
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: or up there up there, but yeah, it was. I
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: fell in love with it. And I don't know if
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: this is the best Scotch out there, but it's the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: one I like, so that's why I brought it.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the thing with any anything, you know, if
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: it's what you like, it's the best, right right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've tasted five dars glasses of Scotch ounce Pores,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: and I've tasted you know, four dollars, which is is.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Actually why would they spend that much money?
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  Speaker 3: So I hope you enjoyed it.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it's delicious. Thank you for bringing it. Oh
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  Speaker 2: and thanks so much. Good luck on your campaign. You
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: got my backing.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of my listeners are mostly Republicans,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: so hopefully you get their packing too.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: And it is Milford. It's Milford, Orange, would you say.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: Uh, part of Woodbridge in the west shore.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Of West West Havens.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: So we're hitting four towns basically here but all of
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Milford though, right, all orange.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: And we want to dethrone Maroney.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a nice guy, but let's uh, it's
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: time for change, and I think change is good the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Milford residents, I'm one of them.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: We know what's going on in our town. Uh.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: And hopefully he can counteract some of what the mayor
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: is doing and implement some you know some I like.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: To say, common sense, you know, common.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, and and let's you know, everyone's I'm not seeing
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: everyone's struggling, but it'd be nice to have a few
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: extra dollars in our pocket.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: But there are a lot of people struggling too, and uh.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: And who would like lower taxes?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: I would who would like, you know, just everything to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: be a little lower grocery prices everything, Like you said,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: the grocery prices are more than a mortgage.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, right, And it's crazy.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: And I just go for a few things and I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: walk out spending eighty dollars and it's nuts. And you know,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: that could be a national and a lot of people
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: say that's a national thing.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. If we can find a way to lower
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: it locally, that'd be.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: Great too, absolutely, And that's what I'm hoping to do
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: for Yeah.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on your candidacy and best of luck to you.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me, yeahs And if you
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: ever need somebody to fill in, I'm happy to.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, hey, listen what I am all about? Before election day?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: A couple of weeks before. Absolutely, I will. I will
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: supply the scotch. I'll bring my favorite.
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  Speaker 3: How's that perfect?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Sounds good? All right?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much for coming on the show,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: and everyone, thanks for listening to dat drinking a dog
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you guys again.