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Hour Three | Saints Talk with Nick Underhill & LSU Offensive Concerns · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Live from the Raisin Caines studio.
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  Speaker 4: It's off the bench, all right, welcome back in now
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  Speaker 4: number three of ot B.
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  Speaker 2: Jake Flynn, Alner at all here with you live from
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  Speaker 2: the Raisin Kine Studio, and we'll go now to our
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  Speaker 2: guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot Football, who joins us
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  Speaker 2: every single Tuesday at nine am.
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  Speaker 3: Nicholas, how are we doing this week, sir?
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  Speaker 5: Light Doing good? Good? How you guys doing?
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  Speaker 6: Uh you know, yeah, pretty good compared to yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of uh you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: losses for the OTV squad this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: But it's okay. Where a day passed what we were yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: We're moving forward now, but we will reflect on the
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  Speaker 2: performance that happened there in Buffalo, which I understand it
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  Speaker 2: no moral victories in the National Football League, but there
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  Speaker 2: were some positive things I think from the New Orleans
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  Speaker 2: Saints after how it looked in Seattle. I'm sorry, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying like there's no moral victories in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: But after what happened in Seattle, I think there was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things in Buffalo that you can actually say,
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  Speaker 2: we're a positive for the Saints.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there are three and one moral victories this year.
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  Speaker 6: Let's go.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's about the process. I think you
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  Speaker 5: need just to enter it with the you know, the
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  Speaker 5: mindset and you're realistic about it. And I understand that
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of people out there that are that
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  Speaker 5: are living and dying and want to see the win
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  Speaker 5: every single week. And I mean, of course that that
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  Speaker 5: that's the goal. But I think if you're looking at
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  Speaker 5: it realistically, they probably were always going to start going four.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean there's the threat of like, if you
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  Speaker 5: don't beat the Giants this week, when when do you
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  Speaker 5: get that win? And I mean if you're if you're
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  Speaker 5: hanging on that, I mean, it's a it's a dark existence.
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  Speaker 5: But if you're looking at it and you see it
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  Speaker 5: for what it is and you're kind of expecting him
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  Speaker 5: to lose every game, you're you're looking at Jonas Banker
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  Speaker 5: and going okay, well, like there is one building block
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  Speaker 5: established that's a win. The coach had a horrible time
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  Speaker 5: of just getting his team lined up and getting a
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  Speaker 5: snapoff in Seattle. One week later, he goes to another loud, hostile,
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  Speaker 5: crazy environment and they're cleaned and they have a better
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  Speaker 5: system for it, and they lose the guard who's sigling
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  Speaker 5: the snap count, but a udf Rooky in and like
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  Speaker 5: it remains clean. So like seeing those things makes me
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  Speaker 5: believe in the process a little bit more. They played
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  Speaker 5: them top oh them four is a terrible thing, you know,
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  Speaker 5: And and Aaron Glunns in the same situation, and you
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  Speaker 5: got Mike Greenberg coming for his neck, you know. So
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  Speaker 5: like it's there, There is a standard in there. There
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  Speaker 5: has to be like wins it at some point. But
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  Speaker 5: like I'm just realistic about it, and I just don't
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  Speaker 5: see a very good team. And I think they cleaned
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  Speaker 5: up and played well, and I think you can hang
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  Speaker 5: your hat on that for now. Like I do think
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  Speaker 5: you know, you got the Giants, you got the Patriots,
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  Speaker 5: you got the Bears. Like if you're all three through
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  Speaker 5: that stretch, I think we're probably having a slightly different
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  Speaker 5: conversation at the end of it, because at some point
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  Speaker 5: you got to win a game, and that goes to
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  Speaker 5: the quarterback especially. But I think right now, yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: feel halfway decent about the team coming out of there.
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  Speaker 5: I think their defense needs a lot of work. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know that I see all the bright spots on
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  Speaker 5: the line that I that I'd like to see. I'd
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  Speaker 5: like to see that be a little bit tighter. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, by and large, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 5: things went okay for them in that game. Got some
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  Speaker 5: run game going. So yeah, I mean there's definitely some
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  Speaker 5: bright spots.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, let's keep it on the Buffalo game just
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  Speaker 7: for just for a little bit longer. So the two
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  Speaker 7: bright spots for me watching the game was, you're playing
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  Speaker 7: Josh Allen. You can't hope to stop him, you can
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  Speaker 7: only hope to contain him.
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  Speaker 6: Type situation.
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  Speaker 7: But they contained him for a decent He made his
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  Speaker 7: plays throughout the game, but they made his life kind
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  Speaker 7: of hell. They got after him a little bit, got
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  Speaker 7: a couple of sacks. They made it difficult on him.
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  Speaker 7: But then on the other side of the ball, the
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  Speaker 7: running game looked great for most of the game. I
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  Speaker 7: saw I wanted to see, like you've you've spent more
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  Speaker 7: time kind of going back and watching watching the replay
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  Speaker 7: of the game and everything, like, what was the key
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  Speaker 7: contributors to the run game.
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  Speaker 6: I'm curious.
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  Speaker 7: Was it just because they were sitting there with a
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  Speaker 7: light box daring them to throw it and saying beat
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  Speaker 7: us with the run. Was it a been don't break
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  Speaker 7: defense that they were playing again, or what contributed to
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  Speaker 7: the success on the ground.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I mean it's a little bit of both. Like,
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  Speaker 5: definitely that they got some light boxes, and I think
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  Speaker 5: they did a couple of things to like really really
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  Speaker 5: take advantage of that. They got a seventeen yard run
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  Speaker 5: in a twelve yard run on the same look where
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  Speaker 5: they put Alvin and they spread out, got Buffalo all
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  Speaker 5: spread out, but Alvin in the slot kind of motioned
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  Speaker 5: him into the backfield. They're handing the ball off, he's
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  Speaker 5: taken up to the left side out of it, you know,
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  Speaker 5: right through and there was just a golf of space
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  Speaker 5: on the other side. Both times I've ran that, I
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  Speaker 5: think it was first quarter and then early in the
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  Speaker 5: third quarter was the twelve yard run. So like there
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  Speaker 5: was a couple things like that. But the thing that
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  Speaker 5: was the biggest difference in it is is they use
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  Speaker 5: more outside zone in this game, they've been running a
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  Speaker 5: lot of inside zone. They had ten plays outside zone
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  Speaker 5: in this one. I think it was like four was
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  Speaker 5: the highest in the first three games, and they got
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  Speaker 5: a lot of yardage out of that. And then the
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  Speaker 5: other thing is they went under center and they just
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  Speaker 5: started handing the ball off, you know, that drive that
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  Speaker 5: led into the Philly special play, like just went all
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  Speaker 5: the way down the field, and we haven't seen them
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  Speaker 5: do that really either. I think that was more about
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  Speaker 5: just being able to like hear the cadence and everything better.
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  Speaker 5: It's a line of scrimmage, but it was effective running
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  Speaker 5: the ball, So I think both those things helped, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And then when they're they're under center, they're they're running
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  Speaker 5: a little bit more inside zone from that look, and I think,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that just helped them get a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more yards before contact. Coming into the game, they were
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  Speaker 5: like zero point two yards before contact on inside zone,
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  Speaker 5: and I mean, if you're running that from pistol, like,
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  Speaker 5: it's like seven yards before you're you're at the line
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  Speaker 5: of scrimmage. So I think it just kind of maybe
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  Speaker 5: allows some of those those creases to pop open a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more. I'm gonna be interested to see if
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  Speaker 5: they mix that in because it was like strictly a
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  Speaker 5: shotgun offense. I don't know, maybe out old school, but
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  Speaker 5: like I feel like play action from understanders like kind
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  Speaker 5: of just works a little bit better than back in
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  Speaker 5: that shotgun. Look, maybe that helps open up some deep plays.
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  Speaker 5: You create a tendency like, hey, you're gonna run from
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  Speaker 5: this like every single time. Maybe you start out doing
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  Speaker 5: it and then you break that tendency and pop a
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  Speaker 5: big play or something like maybe maybe it opens up
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  Speaker 5: a couple of wrinkles. But I think they just kind
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  Speaker 5: of got a couple of different things going, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And I thought we saw the differences in the Run
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  Speaker 5: game for sure. And then you know, just Kendrick Miller
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  Speaker 5: like that was an extremely important game for him, I
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  Speaker 5: think too, just to kind of show everyone, but more
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  Speaker 5: so show himself that like, hey, look I can be
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  Speaker 5: I can be you know Option one B in this
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  Speaker 5: Run game every single week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also show Dennis Allen for if he was
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  Speaker 2: watching somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you about that pass at a lave through.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, it just felt like such a big moment in
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  Speaker 2: the game and you're trying to do something to give
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  Speaker 2: you a spark there. It's like, you don't mind plays
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  Speaker 2: like that, but if the play's not there, you got
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  Speaker 2: to just you know, live to play another down. And
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  Speaker 2: just that play felt like it took a lot of
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  Speaker 2: emotion away from what the Saints had kind of built
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  Speaker 2: up there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm at the same place, like I
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  Speaker 5: don't like the play. I don't think I would have
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  Speaker 5: ran it. It felt like they were moving the ball well,
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  Speaker 5: but at the same time, I understand the process, so
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  Speaker 5: like I can't sit here and like call it a
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  Speaker 5: dumb player or anything like that. You know, I think
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  Speaker 5: it was actually probably I took its like maybe honesty
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  Speaker 5: from the coaching staff about what they think about their
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  Speaker 5: red zone offenses. They thought, like, you know, running this
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  Speaker 5: trick play is their best shot at getting in the
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  Speaker 5: end zone because look, you look at the data, like
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  Speaker 5: they just haven't been getting that area of the field,
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  Speaker 5: and like they had done running the ball, but the
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  Speaker 5: last two runs went for three yards. You're at third
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  Speaker 5: and five. I didn't like the second yard pass either,
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  Speaker 5: maybe though like I probably would have ran, I would
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  Speaker 5: have kept running probably on second down and then maybe
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  Speaker 5: you're at like third and two that's probably how I
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  Speaker 5: would have approached you.
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  Speaker 6: But easy to.
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  Speaker 5: Stay in hindsight, man like cold Bishop, like you look
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  Speaker 5: at that play like he's taken it, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: then he and then he tosses back to a lave
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  Speaker 5: on the on the reverse for the throat, like before
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  Speaker 5: he even pitched the ball to the lave, he's breaking
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  Speaker 5: from the other hash. It was like it was doom man,
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  Speaker 5: Like he was just he's seen that thing just from go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was an amazing play. You know. I didn't love it,
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  Speaker 5: but I understand it. And look, you know, there's been
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  Speaker 5: like kind of three critical moments now the the end
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  Speaker 5: a half, first first week. What was the other one
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  Speaker 5: it took the ball at a out of a Rattlers dance, man,
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  Speaker 5: I can't remember. It was another August of the situation.
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  Speaker 5: But there's been three now where there's been three things
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  Speaker 5: where you kind of look at it and you're like,
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  Speaker 5: man like, how come come they don't they like trusting
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  Speaker 5: them to do this stuff. But I think it's just
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  Speaker 5: kind of telling about, you know, what they think and
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  Speaker 5: what they need to do to score points. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's been tough on there, and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a couple of little things that Ratler
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  Speaker 5: definitely needs to tighten up over the next three weeks.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, that was a little bit telling.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't sit here and say that was a
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  Speaker 7: bad play call because that was probably the most underrated
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  Speaker 7: best defensive play of the weekend in college or pros.
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  Speaker 7: It was incredible, Like the the safety on the front
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  Speaker 7: side reads the play and makes a complete sprint of
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  Speaker 7: a play to the backside is able to get the
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  Speaker 7: ball like, that was an incredible play. So it's hard
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  Speaker 7: for me to sit there and say, like, man, that
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  Speaker 7: was a that was a bad play call, because if
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  Speaker 7: he if he reacts like a split second slower, I'm
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  Speaker 7: making it like it's a touchdown, right, So but you're right,
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  Speaker 7: like it's you want to see them not have to
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  Speaker 7: do those types of plays in that type of situation
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  Speaker 7: to be able to put points onward. So it is
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  Speaker 7: it is a little telling. But you know, Kellimore, he's
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  Speaker 7: an offensive he's a creative guy. It is surprising to
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  Speaker 7: me that that you brought it up, and I hadn't
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  Speaker 7: really thought about it as the so much shotgun because
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  Speaker 7: it's certainly not who they were in Philly and we
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  Speaker 7: kind of talked about it on here. We're we're on
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  Speaker 7: the same page with you too, Like you play actions
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  Speaker 7: a lot better when you have the threat of a
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  Speaker 7: little bit more of run under the center. Play action
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  Speaker 7: is a lot better when a quarterback turns his back
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  Speaker 7: to the defense, and that happens for the most part
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  Speaker 7: under center.
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  Speaker 6: Now you can get to it.
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  Speaker 7: And pistol a little bit, but your back's not turned
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  Speaker 7: for quite as long. I don't know, And it's so
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  Speaker 7: far by hind a line of scrimmage just not the
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  Speaker 7: same effect.
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  Speaker 6: Has that been progressively?
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  Speaker 7: I don't like it never stuck out to me watching
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  Speaker 7: the game this past week, and but now, as you
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  Speaker 7: say it, looking back, has that been progressively more and
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  Speaker 7: more shotgun each week?
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  Speaker 5: It's done like exclusively shotgun every week until this week
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  Speaker 5: they kind of they kind of a hit that drive
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  Speaker 5: with it. And yeah, I think that was a problem
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  Speaker 5: in Seattle too, like they couldn't hear nothing, and like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I think I messed up some of the
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  Speaker 5: timing and everything, and they tried to switch it up
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  Speaker 5: this week and then it worked well. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: kind of like it's kind of collegi ish man, like
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's just like kind of standing back there,
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  Speaker 5: like the whole entire game never understand it. Like play
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  Speaker 5: action hasn't been really working at all for them, And yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, Like again, I might I might have
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  Speaker 5: like overdosed on the the Shanan era of the NFL,
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  Speaker 5: but like play action married to like outside zone action
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  Speaker 5: just feels like you get those linebackers moving out of
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  Speaker 5: the way and then you're creating space and you know
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  Speaker 5: you can you can just open a lot of stuff up,
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  Speaker 5: and it's like their play action just really hasn't been
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  Speaker 5: like doing anything. So I'm just kind of curious to
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  Speaker 5: see if it if it kind of progresses a little
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  Speaker 5: bit that your action, but that that's well, I would.
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  Speaker 7: Say like that, I would say probably the top five
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  Speaker 7: offenses in the NFL, which would be which would mean
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  Speaker 7: the entire world are pretty balanced between shotgun and underneath
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  Speaker 7: the center. You look at the Lions and the Packers,
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  Speaker 7: you look at even the bills are going under the center,
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  Speaker 7: And I feel like Spencer looks pretty good under the center.
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  Speaker 6: He looks pretty comfortable.
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  Speaker 7: For a guy it's probably probably been pretty exclusive shotgun
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  Speaker 7: in his college career. It looks pretty comfortable under them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, man, Like I don't. I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 5: love the approach it again, yeah, I want to see
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  Speaker 5: if it evolves a little bit, because you know, you
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  Speaker 5: get a little bit of success there. Kellen doesn't expand
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  Speaker 5: a lot on things at the podium, Like he's been
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  Speaker 5: asked about the shotgun stuff, you know, a few times,
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  Speaker 5: and he just said he likes the timing and space
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  Speaker 5: of it. But yeah, I think it. I think it
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  Speaker 5: definitely needs to find a way to be a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more balanced. And you know, I think again, I
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  Speaker 5: think it would just open up a couple of them shots.
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  Speaker 5: And that's that's the big thing missing from the offense,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and the whole league's kind of go in
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  Speaker 5: that direction. You look and it's who are the passing leaders.
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  Speaker 5: It's like Carson wentz to three hundred and fifty yards and
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  Speaker 5: then everybody else has won seventy five two hundred. Like
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  Speaker 5: it's just kind of getting, you know, oppressed a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: And even even Josh Allen like didn't have a ton
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  Speaker 5: of passing yards this week, and I think he's averaging
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  Speaker 5: two forty a game, and you know, that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: the standard which is way different than like seven years ago.
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  Speaker 5: But you got to be able to a couple of
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  Speaker 5: those shots down the field. And now, you know, I think,
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  Speaker 5: I think for this team, with the talent they have,
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  Speaker 5: the quarterback they have, like it's got to be manufactured
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  Speaker 5: a bit. And yeah, I mean understanding play action. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, Like again, I might be an idiot, but like,
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  Speaker 5: it just feels like that's the way to open maybe
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  Speaker 5: some of that stuff up when you're a little bit
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  Speaker 5: deficient in a couple of spots.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, I just looked it up.
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  Speaker 2: A shotgun percentage for the New Orleans Saints seventy one
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  Speaker 2: point six percent of the time, pistol seven percent of
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  Speaker 2: the time, under center nineteen point two percent of the time,
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  Speaker 2: And so yeah, that math.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe it has something to do with it being like
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  Speaker 7: first and second and forever for a lot of them,
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  Speaker 7: for a lot of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe certainly, Hey, let me ask you about two
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  Speaker 2: guys though that potentially could come back in the next
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. We talked about it earlier, Foster Morrow
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  Speaker 2: and Taysom Hill opening that twenty one day window where
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  Speaker 2: they can come out there in practice. What's the latest
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  Speaker 2: on them and what do you think that those two
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  Speaker 2: players can help this offense achieve when they do get back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I was supposed to see it.
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  Speaker 5: But when I was going out there yesterday, like you know,
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  Speaker 5: they were working out on a sidefield, and like Jayson
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  Speaker 5: was like like running routes like it it looks like
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  Speaker 5: at full speed. So I think he's extremely close. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I think Foster's been ready to go. I mean, big
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: talent is added to the team, I mean tight end.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I don't feel like they've gotten a ton
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  Speaker 5: out of it. I'm going to be fascinated really to
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  Speaker 5: see what they what they do with Taysom because like
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  Speaker 5: I think, obviously you have to get him involved. He's
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: one of your best playmakers on offense. But I wonder
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: how deep into it they go. I wonder if they
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: used him more and like traditional positions, or are you
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: trying to like build a whole Taysum package and be
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: extremely unique and all that stuff around him, you know,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: with the guy that's not going to be here for
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: probably you know, I would guess this is probably very
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: very close to the end of the road. So like
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna be curious to see if like more
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: tries to build like an identity that he can keep
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: building upon, or like you go in centralized Taysom is
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: a central piece of your offense kind of the way
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: koobi Ac did last year, and then you know you're
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: you're screwed them when he gets hurt again and you
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: have trouble bringing it back. So I don't I don't
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: know how to put him into it, but like, I
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: think he obviously has to be a part of it,
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: and I think he's going to be. You know, I
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: think he's one of the few guys on that offense
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: that I think can be a reason, you know, you're
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: winning games. So I'm curious to see it. But I
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: you know, I also a foster. I think huge upgrade.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: You know, I obviously one of the better blocking tight
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: hands on the team. He can you know, you trust
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: them to make some some you know, critical catches down
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: the stretch. Last year, I think his past catching ability
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: was really underrated. Like you know, they had all the
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: injuries and they kind of had to turn to him,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: and you know, I felt like he stepped up big
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: down the stretch. So, you know, and I think Ratler
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: has a lot of chemistry with him, so that that
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: would be possibly a very very good addition for the team.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Nick, we asked you about I think last week
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: we asked you about who's the vocal leader on offense
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: And to me, like even just from a psychological effect
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: of getting Taysom Hill back, getting Foster a Row back,
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: to me, those are guys that can immediately step in
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: and take over that role of being the vocal guy.
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: It's hard to do it when you're sidelined with an injury,
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: but like they get to step in a huddle, I
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: feel like bring a little bit of a little bit
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: of weight behind their voice, weight behind them if they
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: are going to get off onto the offensive line or
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: whoever it is, but they bring a little bit that
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: extra like that, it factored to that that psychologically can
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: help everybody, especially a young quarterback, especially a unit that
• 17:03
  Speaker 7: has been struggling a little bit.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a good kind of
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: like a psychological effect.
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: And to that point, your answer last week on the
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: vocal leaders of the offense, Caesar rus gets hurt, he's
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: out for what three to five weeks something like that,
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: and you got a guy, uh is it my saying
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: this name right?
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: Towards Selly Simpkins.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I guess Foster was out of site,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: out of mind when we were talking about that. But
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: I mean he's he's maybe the biggest standard bearer that,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: you know what, Like the way he is a practice,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: the way he gets on guys, the way he leaves
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: like it. You know, it stands out among like anybody
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: I've ever seen on a field. And you know, I
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: was around the twenty tenth Patriots and you know these
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Saints with your reason, you know, all them guys like
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: like Foster is like like head cracking leadership, like holding
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: people to a standard I think is on par with
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: like anybody I've seen. So yeah, it's just that that
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: aspect of getting him on the field around the young team,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: you know that they got the penalty spinning up like
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: stuff like that, Like he's somebody that you just just
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: heared like tearing into people for you know, messing up
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: the details. And I think that helps, especially when you
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: have this type of you know, coach that that's you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: kind of more laid back personality, having a player that
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: can kind of be your your bulldog and you don't
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: got to ask them to show up as the bulldog.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: I think it is quietly a big deal. All right.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: There is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans, dotch Football
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• 18:34
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• 18:41
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• 18:46
  Speaker 5: You got to beat the Giants.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: Yes, when the Saints get that win, we're gonna get
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
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  Speaker 1: Com blocked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You're listening to off the bench.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: The team has gone a lot and your mound by
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: all right, welcome back. Did you say hi? No, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: said I. I said, like a Nick Saban I off
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: the bench.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: I uh so, Jake, I want to ask you about something.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: It's a stat that I started looking up yesterday in
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: the NFL, and you were a special team's war daddy
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: for a long time, like special teams thus far in
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: the NFL through four weeks. Four weeks, oh yeah, through
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: week four in the NFL has made like the biggest impact.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: I remember special teams doing it, like a stretch of
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: four game stretch that I remember in a long time.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: And I started looking at you know, of course we've
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: had like the Saints had a big return against them.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: There's been returns in different situations. I know, like the
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: kick off rules have really improved the game on the kickoff.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Cowboys, I mean benefited greatly against the Packers. Huge
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: so great returns.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: But one big thing that is sticking out to me
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: in the special teams world is field goal blocks.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Okay, I started looking up the stats.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: It popped up Sunday night when the Packers got an
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: extra point blocked and they returned to the is a
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: three point difference right there. That's a three point swing.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: So I looked up and said, in twenty twenty four
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: a total of eighteen all season, eighteen blocked field goals
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: or pats. In twenty twenty four through four weeks in
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: the NFL, thirteen blockeden field goals or pats.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: So my question is is is this just a fluke?
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: Is this just a random like we're just going through
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: a slew of blocks here, or is this an emergence
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: of different blocking schemes, different blocking technique?
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: Taller people, like, what are we doing?
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: Or are these big leg kickers that are making sixty
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: sixty plus yards? Are they just like inherently in their
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: mind they're having a hard time controlling the trajectory because
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: of course the longer the field goal, the lower the ejectory.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: We've had to put that thing down.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: What I mean, is this just a fluke, like from
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: a war Daddy standpoint, like, that's a shocking number to me.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: Thirteen blocked field goals or extra points in the first
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: four weeks.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: And some of them have not been of long distances either. No,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: they have on extra point, well extra point for sure,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: like the extra point. Now the extra point is backed up.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: So I do think there's a more point of emphasis
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: for these special teams coaches to try to go after
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: it a little bit because before it was automatic. Hell,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you could even block it sometimes, and it was such
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a short distance it would still go in right, even
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: if you've got a hand on it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: So I think that probably plays into it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And I think that these special teams coaches see an opportunity,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and they see an opportunity.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: To try to stop points get points.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: And you see like you'll see some unique guys in
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: there on field goal block now too, in some different positions.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You see it kind of all levels of football.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: But I think special teams has certainly been more of
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a point of emphasis over the last couple of years
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: with all the new rule changes.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Because like we saw who did it cost Tata? You
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: probably know this. You watch the NFL, like every single game.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Which team was the Cardinals that didn't kick it inside
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the landing zone? And so yeah it is Cardinals Vikings,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: right are Seahawks?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Cardinals?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Seahawks saw Sam Darnold with thought Vikings they didn't kick
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it inside the landing zone and so they started the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: possession on the forty They one completion field goal game over.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: So like, I think I think there's a lot of Hey,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: we've always air quotes, taken it seriously because some teams
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I was on did not That's why we were first
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: in offense first, and defense thirty second and special teams
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: that didn't make a playoffs. But I think now you
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: realize that you can win a game by doing one
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: little thing on special.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: Well, look, you can go back two weeks ago the
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: Eagles first, the Rams right MS one, Like, they beat
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: the Eagles for four quarters. They had two blocked field
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: goals in that game. Two blocked field goals, one for
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: a touchdown at the end, and they lose by the spread. Yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: they lose by seven points. The Rams should have won
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: that game. And the Eagles, I mean, they're they're so good,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: they're so talented, but two blocked field goals in a
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: game that.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Is unheard of?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Are you like the Eagles out?
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Like when you look at the Eagles personnel though, they
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: really do have like the perfect people and have giants
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: that are athletic, they can be right there in the middle.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: But also remember that Rams kick was low low kid.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But one of these kickers too, at least one of
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: them wasn't long. No, it was thirty seven yards. So
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I think these these kickers, to your point, you might
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: have actually found something here. I think because now they're
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: bombing everything and like a fifty eight yard field goal
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: is almost automatic now, which is just ludicrous, that maybe they.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Have changed kind of the way they drive the football.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: It's incredible, Like you go, there was was it Sunday
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: night the Packers kicker, I think at the end of
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: the aff or something.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: I can't remember when it was. No, it was the
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: end of the game. He kicked them.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: It was like a forty seven yard whatever, forty seven
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: forty eight, which is like a chip shot these days.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: I feel like it went over the uprights like it
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: was like it was. It would have been good for
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: eighty I had. Like these guys are just like strolling
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: up to the ball and kicking.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, we just had the Bucks kicker just he
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: set the outdoor record for longest field goal in NFL history, right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Chase the McLaughlin sixty five. But they were looking
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: at replacing him two weeks ago because he missed like
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: two forty yarders. Yeah, then he's out here hitting a
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: sixty five the next week.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a real weapon. Looked at the Chargers
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: kicker Caim Dicker.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: He is the most accurate kicker in NFL history, and like,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: that is a real weapon that you have that these
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: guys are making. Like you feel like Matt, if you
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: get over a midfield at this point, you might have points.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I just get over the line.
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: So I guess it's like a giver or take situation
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: because forever kickers, I made a fifty yard field goal
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: was a long field goal. Uh. But special teams coordinators
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: they evacuate everything when it comes to a kicker. I mean,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: there's there's a lot of people that can kick a
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: football in the world. There's a lot of people that
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: can pun a football in the world. Deepsna a football
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: they look for like little things, and I think one
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: of the things that they always look at is the trajectory.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: How high can you get the ball fast right make
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: it impossible to block it. I'm thinking, and I don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: know this, I'm just from what I see on the field.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: Thirteen block field goals to date compared to eighteen blocked
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: all of last year.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like there's a mindset right now.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: It's like we want if we get to the midfield,
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: we want to have the threat of getting points, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: maybe we give up a little trajectory on our cause
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: it's going to be hard to go from kicking a
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: sixty five yard field goal to kicking a thirty yard
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: You got to get it up.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So also special teams coaches are realizing, hey, guys, if
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: they get across the midline, here have like past midfield
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: almost is like we're going to least attempt to kick, right,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I mean most of so these special teams coordinators that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: are also putting together the block, like I think they
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: do realize, we gotta spend some more time on this,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Like we gotta come up with something because in the NFL,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you know how it is, it's always like, Okay, here's
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: this thing, here's this new thing.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: And then these other coaches are like, well, we got
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: stopped the new thing. How do we stop? How do
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: we slow down the new thing?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Well, the new thing in the NFL is let's go
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: kick fifty five to sixty five field goals.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: Right, That's the thing to me, Like this field goal
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: has been around a long time, and all of a sudden,
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: like right now, coaches have figured out a way to
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: make people's make people taller and bigger, and like just
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: now figured out a scheme to block field goals more.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: But it's it's starting to become commonplace, which is wild
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: because I remember, like if you saw a block field
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: goal in the game that you were a part of,
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: it was something special you were watching, Like that doesn't
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: happen unless it's just a terrible kick.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Anyway, war teams, special teams, war daddies are people too, Matt.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Sure are.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: It's just playing. It's playing such a big part. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: I didn't even put in block punts in that scenario.
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: There's been a bunch of black punts. People are getting
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: really aggressive. The ball you saw who is a Buffaloes
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: kicker punter nearly snaps his leg. Wasn't that Buffalo?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Was that?
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah?
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: Oh speaking off Tyreek Hill last night, jee, that was
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: an ugly one dated a kneecap right, Uh did y'all
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: see it?
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: It did not look at us. It's tore multiple ligaments
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: including acls.
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: What I oh was it?
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: Man, No, it looked bad. They had him in like
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: the bubble cast and yeah it was groose.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: How's a bad game, all right?
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Real quick before I give you, uh, the shotgun percentage
• 30:38
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  Speaker 2: it in a different category. They put a pistol in
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  Speaker 2: a different category. Yep, I guess because it's like technically
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  Speaker 2: like shotgun number offensive plays that are not under the center.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody will take a guess, LSU.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody's asking us how many percentage of the place for
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  Speaker 2: LSU or out of shotgun?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, pistol doesn't count a shotgun?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: No, I added pistol, added pistol still a gun? Eighty
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  Speaker 2: Matthew out of shotgun? Yes, Las Tigers, Yes, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to say ninety eight point seven a laundra is the
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  Speaker 2: closest ninety two point five percent of the time they
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  Speaker 2: are in shotgun, So like what they're calling like just
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  Speaker 2: actual shotgun seventy nine point fives still thirteen percent, and
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  Speaker 2: then under center seven point five percent.
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  Speaker 6: Seven point five percent, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think like some of the gold line stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and they have had a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple of plays they had like two reverses I think
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  Speaker 2: to a receiver out of they were underneath and kind
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  Speaker 7: I'm guessing about seventy five average of seventy seventy five
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  Speaker 7: plays a game times five games, that's three hundred and
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  Speaker 7: seven point five percent, that can actually give you that's
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  Speaker 3: I think it was twenty five when I looked, I'm
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  Speaker 2: So did we have a victory formation of victory formation
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  Speaker 2: probably counts, yeah for sure as under center.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and to this point you've won every game before
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  Speaker 3: last week.
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  Speaker 7: So now I'll take out the pistol is a weapon.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: It's not a philosophy again, it's a weapon to use.
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  Speaker 2: It's it was a philosophy at a place like Nevada. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: when they had Colin Kaepernick and that's what they ran.
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  Speaker 2: They were they were the first one to run pistol
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  Speaker 7: And you have to you have to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves gets off the
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in OTB here on this Tuesday afternoon.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: A couple more segments for you before we get out
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  Speaker 2: of here. And one of the things that I was
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: just thinking of, because you had a lot of conversations
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: about how do we get this LSU run game going,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, wait a minute, hold up. I
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  Speaker 2: went to practice a couple of times and I remember
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  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of Juwan Johnson who started running back
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  Speaker 2: and maybe but that maybe that's the reason because he
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  Speaker 2: had to give a started running back and play more
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  Speaker 2: running back than anticipated. But Tye, you went to camp
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  Speaker 2: more than I did. You couldn't go out there, certainly
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of camp and not see Juwan Johnson
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  Speaker 2: take direct snaps. So a lot of people are talking
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: about like adding a quarterback run element to your offense,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: like that was something that was early and often when
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  Speaker 2: you go to camp, it.
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  Speaker 8: Was it was every practice, I mean first drives, like
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: they had a formation where it was actually Malachai lane
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  Speaker 8: walk on running back Caden Durham. They were kind of
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  Speaker 8: the two lead blockers for Juwan john I mean it
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  Speaker 8: was quarterback power straight to him with two running backs
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  Speaker 8: his lead blockers.
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  Speaker 6: I mean they did it on the goal line a lot.
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  Speaker 8: They did it it they would do it inside like
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  Speaker 8: the little red zone packages we saw. I mean we
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  Speaker 8: saw that pretty much every single time I.
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  Speaker 3: Was out there.
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  Speaker 6: I hadn't seen it once.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I saw I went to four five practices
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  Speaker 2: and I saw it a ton, Like I didn't even
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: think about that because you know, you get in the
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: season and you like none that was something they worked on.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: So I wonder why that has not shown up, why
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: they haven't really maybe given over to at least trying.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: For saving it. Noah shouldn't say anything. We're saving it,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: setting them up.
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: Got everybody else, got the reci of people on our
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: schedule right where we want them where, right.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Where we want them.
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  Speaker 3: Just a thought.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of bama a gump, I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of I'm with you, like I have an idea run
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  Speaker 2: the ball, I'm with you. I'm just of things that
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: we saw in camp. That's something we haven't seen. And
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  Speaker 2: I know Taylor mentioned it a ton.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I know I saw it.
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  Speaker 2: You saw the day that you probably went out there
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  Speaker 2: and just something you hadn't seen. But going back to Bamacomb, yeah, hey,
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  Speaker 2: hey we're going to run thirty four zone on one
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  Speaker 2: on one ready?
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  Speaker 6: How many passes did Nust throw those days when they
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  Speaker 6: were working on that a lot.
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  Speaker 8: When they were working on it, it was kind of
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  Speaker 8: exclusively that so like they they did a goal line,
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  Speaker 8: but what we saw most was like lining up at
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  Speaker 8: the ten so gold to go situations. They ranted a lot,
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  Speaker 8: And I mean Nus was a receiver a few times,
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  Speaker 8: which that's never going to be a threat. To anyone,
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: no offense figure out Nelsemeyer. But no, I mean they
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  Speaker 8: kind of exclusively did that for a couple of periods.
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather go three and out an I formation.
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  Speaker 7: Just think back in the day, though, Like let's let's
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  Speaker 7: take a trip down Laying eleven years ago, twelve years ago,
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  Speaker 7: when our quarterback was lined up in a power formation
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  Speaker 7: and he was pointing behind his back for the power.
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  Speaker 6: Nine talis and well, I mean the direction is going.
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  Speaker 6: How much we hated it.
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  Speaker 3: Dag did that this last game against the Packers. He
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  Speaker 3: did it. He got back and pointed which way. But
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  Speaker 3: he didn't do it thirty eight times a game.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say that, I just said he did it. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: there's a thing called a balance of what we're talking.
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  Speaker 2: Like when I watched the Buffalo Bills, they were and
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: gun here under center, there, a little run here, a
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  Speaker 2: little past there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So I was just wondering if it was like one
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: of those prizes were dud didn't throw it a lot? Yeah,
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: two points from the Torso injury. I didn't know there
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: was a lot of practices like that, met I know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: I mean was weird. It's like there's something wrong.
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: There was a pitch count, because you know, quarterbacks are
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: one of those all the time.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: Everything's fine, everything's fine. Guys all right where we want them.
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: I also think it's convenient that the scrimmage of the
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: media was allowed to go to in Tiger Stadium. Nelson
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: Meyer did not throw a pass. But don't worry, Kelly
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: said the scrimmage that was closed to the media the
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: week before, here was a full participant.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: So not to work.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: There we go.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: Until we're good. Well, well let's there. Here's here. You
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: want to hear some facts. Though we got one loss.
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: Most people are predicted to be ten and two, so
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: we only got one. Right now, a lot of season left.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: You got a mulligan.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: I don't need one, you.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, but you can use it. If
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  Speaker 6: He still got one more to give. Still make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 6: I'm feeling good.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: Those are just facts. We're giving a lot of opinions today.
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  Speaker 7: You want facts. We just got one loss. It's very true.
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  Speaker 6: It's very true. We gonna make the playoffs. Make a run.
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  Speaker 6: Jarret Torso be healed up by them.
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