Latest / DISGRACELAND / The Velvet Underground: Heroin, S&M, and the Attempted Assassination of Andy Warhol
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis. The stories about
- 0:22Speaker 1: the Velvet Underground are insane. They sang candidly about heroine, speed,
- 0:28Speaker 1: in s and m and those subjects would be controversial
- 0:32Speaker 1: even now, but at the time, in the nineteen sixties,
- 0:35Speaker 1: they were completely taboo, unheard of in pop music. No
- 0:39Speaker 1: one's saying about drugs and sex like that, but no
- 0:43Speaker 1: one was the Velvet Underground. Their members included drug dealers
- 0:47Speaker 1: and junkies in their perverted stage show, offended liberal hippies.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Their first manager, Andy Warhol, nearly died during an assassination
- 0:57Speaker 1: attempt that left him physically and mentally shattered for the
- 1:00Speaker 1: rest of his life. Their songwriter Lou Reed, was hell
- 1:04Speaker 1: bent on transcending the art scene to achieve major commercial success,
- 1:09Speaker 1: no matter who stood in his way. Despite of him.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Because of all of these things, the Velvet Underground made
- 1:16Speaker 1: great music, some of the most cutting edge music, music
- 1:21Speaker 1: that predicted punk rock, music that launched a thousand bands.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Unlike that clip I played for you at the top
- 1:27Speaker 1: of the show that wasn't great music. That was a
- 1:31Speaker 1: preset loop for my melotron called Union Squared Dance MK one.
- 1:37Speaker 1: I played you that Loop because I can't afford the
- 1:40Speaker 1: rights to Missus Robinson by Simon and Garfunkel.
- 1:44Speaker 2: And why would I play you that specific slice of
- 1:47Speaker 2: Goo gook cheese? Could I afford it?
- 1:49Speaker 1: Because that was the number one song in America on
- 1:53Speaker 1: June third, nineteen sixty eight, And that was the day
- 1:57Speaker 1: that The Velvet Underground's former manager, In Warhol, was declared
- 2:01Speaker 1: clinically dead, a moment that had ramifications on both the
- 2:05Speaker 1: future of the band in the future of rock and roll.
- 2:09Speaker 1: On this episode, speed and heroin sex fetishes, an assassination
- 2:14Speaker 1: attempt Goot Googa Cheese in The Velvet Underground. I'm Jake
- 2:19Speaker 1: Brennan in this this disgraceland. Mariene Tucker didn't know what
- 2:57Speaker 1: the fuck she was looking at the flower in the hair,
- 3:01Speaker 1: long flowing blouses, fringe and technicolor tie. Die this one girl.
- 3:06Speaker 1: She didn't even have shoes on. And the girl stuck
- 3:09Speaker 1: out two fingers like bunny ears Peace and love, Peace,
- 3:12Speaker 1: And what the hell was wrong with these people? This
- 3:16Speaker 1: was nineteen sixty six. Look around California, Vietnam, Mississippi. Goddamn,
- 3:23Speaker 1: there was no peace back home in New York. The
- 3:27Speaker 1: only piece you got was the few minutes it took
- 3:29Speaker 1: to give blood so that you could earn a couple
- 3:31Speaker 1: bucks to make it through the rest of the week.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And love.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Love was not free and it was not easy.
- 3:38Speaker 1: The La hippies were equally confused by Moe. Was this
- 3:42Speaker 1: a woman standing before them or is this a man?
- 3:45Speaker 1: Why did she or he play the drums? Standing up,
- 3:49Speaker 1: black clothes sunglasses inside the club at night? Mole people
- 3:55Speaker 1: moles on speed and smack instead of grass and LSD.
- 4:00Speaker 1: And though they were on the West Coast and they
- 4:01Speaker 1: had permission to be happy here, inner Bliss was just
- 4:04Speaker 1: a California dream away. Mo knew it was useless to
- 4:08Speaker 1: try to explain herself to these morons. They didn't even
- 4:11Speaker 1: get Nico, the most beautiful thing about the Velvet Underground.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Nico was tall, exotic, magnetic, but she was a dead
- 4:19Speaker 1: pan kind of knockout. Her deep voice was strange, and
- 4:22Speaker 1: her lack of affectation was even stranger. She was a
- 4:25Speaker 1: block of ice, way too cool to melt in the
- 4:28Speaker 1: hot California sun. Mo would take the repressed Midwest over
- 4:32Speaker 1: this fantasy any day, because that's what this was, a fantasy.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Jesus.
- 4:38Speaker 1: They even had a band called love. Love was the
- 4:42Speaker 1: biggest power of bullshit Mo had ever seen. It wasn't
- 4:46Speaker 1: just Mo, Lou Reed, the singer and the songwriter in
- 4:49Speaker 1: her band, The Velvet Underground.
- 4:51Speaker 2: He knew bullshit when he saw it. Lou Reed was
- 4:54Speaker 2: fluent in bullshit. Lou Reed pedaled bullshit.
- 4:58Speaker 1: As a former staff songwriter for Pickwick Records, he made
- 5:01Speaker 1: a living selling for gayzes to fucking rubes. The songs
- 5:04Speaker 1: were shit, and the bands that recorded the songs didn't exist.
- 5:08Speaker 2: It was just a cash grab. It was plastic. But
- 5:11Speaker 2: Lou's real songs, the songs.
- 5:13Speaker 1: He didn't write for the Pickwick for Gazy Machine, those
- 5:15Speaker 1: were real, real as a spike in your vein, realer
- 5:19Speaker 1: than anything anyone had.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Ever heard before.
- 5:22Speaker 1: A while the Beatles were busy singing coded drug songs
- 5:25Speaker 1: like got to Get You Into My Life, The Velvet
- 5:27Speaker 1: Underground weren't coding a damn thing. I'm waiting for The
- 5:31Speaker 1: Man in Heroin were metaphor free songs about junkies and aheads,
- 5:35Speaker 1: guys like lou himself, copping a fix, shooting speed shooting, junk,
- 5:39Speaker 1: popping seconds and thorsine. Anything that allowed you to see
- 5:41Speaker 1: the white light and feel the white Heat. And it
- 5:44Speaker 1: wasn't just drug music, lous song, Venus in furs. It
- 5:48Speaker 1: was all about kinks and sexual taboos, about servants tasting
- 5:52Speaker 1: a whip and mistresses with boots to worship. It was
- 5:56Speaker 1: Venus in Furs that were playing now on stage at
- 5:59Speaker 1: a Sunsets strip club called The Trip. Lou Reed and
- 6:02Speaker 1: fellow band member Stirling Morrison's guitars conjured a drone, the
- 6:07Speaker 1: drone of a sixty cycle, hum of a Westinghouse refrigerator,
- 6:10Speaker 1: the drone of Western civilization, the alpha rythm of the
- 6:14Speaker 1: sleeping brain. John Kle's amplified viola squealed eerily. Motucker beat
- 6:20Speaker 1: out a primitive rhythm on a drum kit. As diminutive
- 6:22Speaker 1: as she was, it was hypnotic, and it was loud,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and the walls of the little club shook. But there
- 6:29Speaker 1: was more to the show than just the sound. The
- 6:31Speaker 1: exploding plastic inevitable Andy Warhol's roving brainchild of New York Freaks.
- 6:37Speaker 1: It was a multi media assault on the senses. The
- 6:40Speaker 1: intent of the exploding plastic inevitable wasn't merely to hypnotize,
- 6:44Speaker 1: to control the imagination of everyone in the room. This
- 6:48Speaker 1: was done not just with sound but with vision. Andy's
- 6:51Speaker 1: experimental films were projected directly onto the band, like Blowjob,
- 6:55Speaker 1: a thirty five minute single take of a man's face
- 6:58Speaker 1: as he will you know It's on off camera, the
- 7:01Speaker 1: strobe lights and the movie flickered while the Velvets kept playing.
- 7:04Speaker 1: That drone like a B fifty two is coming through
- 7:06Speaker 1: the fucking roof, the kind of drone that John Cale
- 7:09Speaker 1: had learned about at the feet of La Monte Young.
- 7:12Speaker 1: But the minimalist composer didn't just supply John Kele with
- 7:15Speaker 1: music lessons. He supplied the dope, the good dope, the
- 7:20Speaker 1: dope that John Cale dealt for La Monty Young on
- 7:22Speaker 1: the side, and then the dope that got lou read
- 7:25Speaker 1: off hardcore. The band sounded like nodding off felt. Two dancers,
- 7:30Speaker 1: Gerard and Mary, appeared on stage holding oversized plastic needles
- 7:35Speaker 1: while the Velvet song played on an audio visual representation
- 7:39Speaker 1: of La Monte Young's teachings. They pressed the syringes into
- 7:43Speaker 1: their arms and went through the motion of shooting heroin, and.
- 7:46Speaker 2: The music got louder.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Mary cracked a cruel bullwh and the sound of it
- 7:51Speaker 1: brought poor Gerard to his knees.
- 7:53Speaker 2: Mary motioned to him. Gerard began to crawl.
- 7:56Speaker 1: John Cale's viola sounded like corrosive liquid running down a
- 7:59Speaker 1: Ringmurro lou Reid's guitar began to feedback like a cornered animal,
- 8:04Speaker 1: and Gerard crawled on his hands and knees. That's a
- 8:07Speaker 1: good little sub Mary cracked her bull up again. Gerard hustled, yes, yes,
- 8:13Speaker 1: strike me, dear mistress.
- 8:15Speaker 2: He made it to Mary's feet.
- 8:17Speaker 1: He could smell the sweat on her body, He could
- 8:19Speaker 1: taste her in the back of his throat.
- 8:21Speaker 2: He looked up. Mary looked down at him from on high.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Gerard opened his mouth, stuck out his tongue, and licked
- 8:28Speaker 1: her leather boots clean. When the show let out, the
- 8:35Speaker 1: La audience scratched their heads. Lou Reid should have known better.
- 8:39Speaker 1: You can't reprogram brains with sound and images, not unlike
- 8:43Speaker 1: lou Reid's own brain couldn't be reprogrammed when his parents
- 8:45Speaker 1: sent him to that place where he laid down on
- 8:47Speaker 1: a wooden gurney and some quack and a white coat
- 8:50Speaker 1: stuck a rubber block between his teeth, and that shit
- 8:53Speaker 1: didn't work. You couldn't shock someone's brain into being up tight,
- 8:57Speaker 1: just like you couldn't shock the gay.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Out of them.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Uptight as an anxious or tense. I meant it in
- 9:03Speaker 1: the way Stevie Wonder meant it when he's saying that
- 9:05Speaker 1: everything was all right, clean out of sight and was
- 9:09Speaker 1: uptight interesting something instead of nothing. La was nothing. San
- 9:17Speaker 1: Francisco was even worse. San Francisco's Bill Graham didn't just
- 9:23Speaker 1: misunderstand the Velvets.
- 9:25Speaker 2: He hated them.
- 9:27Speaker 1: I hope you fucker's bomb, he said to Marien Tucker
- 9:29Speaker 1: as the group took the stage at the film More.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Graham was just jealous, Jealous that these people were cooler
- 9:35Speaker 1: than he was, Jealous that he'd never get to fuck Nico,
- 9:38Speaker 1: Jealous when he realized that he Bill Graham, the music
- 9:40Speaker 1: man of the Hate Ashbury, the guru of the Filmore,
- 9:43Speaker 1: that he was not the true originator of the trippy
- 9:45Speaker 1: rock and roll light show as he so often claimed
- 9:48Speaker 1: to be, and therefore was patently not uptight. It was
- 9:53Speaker 1: Marshall mccluan, the famous twentieth century philosopher at Mass Media,
- 9:57Speaker 1: who officially gave the Velvets credit over Bill Graham for
- 10:00Speaker 1: inventing the rock and roll light Show in his book
- 10:02Speaker 1: the medium is the massage. Yes, I said massage. That's
- 10:06Speaker 1: a pawn on mcclun's most indelible phrase, the medium is
- 10:09Speaker 1: the message. In nineteen sixty six, no rock band was
- 10:13Speaker 1: more aware of the potential of their own medium than
- 10:15Speaker 1: the Velvet Underground, and no band pedaled a more transgressive
- 10:19Speaker 1: message than the Velvet Underground. Speed, heroin, trash, novel, kink,
- 10:25Speaker 1: solicitations and acts deemed leude and indecent by local and
- 10:28Speaker 1: federal law, sins of bad taste, and sins against quote
- 10:32Speaker 1: unquote nature. The Velvet Underground was the medium, and the
- 10:37Speaker 1: message was crime. You are a rat, You're a fucking rat.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Andy Warhol was pissed. His face was beat red. Lou
- 11:18Speaker 1: Reid had seen Andy in all his moods before, shy, clayful, combative, horny,
- 11:23Speaker 1: but he'd never seen him so angry. Lou played it cool,
- 11:28Speaker 1: more like ice cold. It wasn't personal, It was just,
- 11:33Speaker 1: you know, business. Andy could feel hurt and betrayed. All
- 11:36Speaker 1: he wanted didn't bother Loo at all. What did bother
- 11:40Speaker 1: Lou was what had become of his band. He was
- 11:43Speaker 1: the songwriter, He was the brooding provocateur John Kle could
- 11:47Speaker 1: argue with that all he wanted. John was there from
- 11:50Speaker 1: the start, after all, not just copying nickelbags of junk
- 11:53Speaker 1: with Lou, but providing a creative foil that juxtaposed experimentalism
- 11:57Speaker 1: would Lou Street tough poetics. But Lou Reid wasn't in
- 12:00Speaker 1: a rock band to be experimental. He wasn't here to
- 12:03Speaker 1: have some art film projected onto his body. Lou Reid
- 12:07Speaker 1: wasn't a fucking soundtrack. He was a rock and roll animal.
- 12:11Speaker 1: He was made to make people shake to that fine,
- 12:14Speaker 1: fine music. Lou Reid wanted to be a star, and
- 12:19Speaker 1: the way he saw it now in nineteen sixty seven,
- 12:22Speaker 1: Andy Warhol was the star. And don't get him wrong,
- 12:25Speaker 1: Lou was grateful for Andy's help, no doubt. Without the
- 12:28Speaker 1: patronage of one of the most commercially successful disruptors of
- 12:31Speaker 1: the modern art world, the Velvet Underground wouldn't have a
- 12:33Speaker 1: debut album out on Verve Records. Andy had the scene,
- 12:36Speaker 1: Andy had the buzz, and most importantly, Andy at the
- 12:39Speaker 1: time anyway, had the dough. Andy's money paid for the
- 12:42Speaker 1: Velvet's instruments, their equipment. It paid for the rehearsal space
- 12:45Speaker 1: and their tour. But that money also gave Andy Warhol
- 12:49Speaker 1: the right to pull rank, like when he hired Krista
- 12:52Speaker 1: Pifkin aka Nico as the group's co lead singer alongside Lou.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Any artist know the beauty is in the eye of
- 13:01Speaker 1: the beholder. But Andy Warhol wasn't just an artist. He
- 13:05Speaker 1: was a businessman. He knew that you needed more than
- 13:08Speaker 1: three irritated looking dudes and one androgynist drummer to sell records,
- 13:12Speaker 1: and a nex fashion model sold records. Lou, on the
- 13:16Speaker 1: other hand, saw Nico as a fem fatale, a double cross,
- 13:20Speaker 1: there to marginalize his involvement, there to sing his songs.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Sunday Morning, the lead track from The Velvet Underground's nineteen
- 13:28Speaker 1: sixty seven debut album, The Velvet Underground and Nico, was
- 13:31Speaker 1: written by Lou four Nico, but when he found out
- 13:34Speaker 1: it was also going to be the album's lead single,
- 13:37Speaker 1: Lou took it back. He sang, the damn thing. He
- 13:39Speaker 1: wasn't having some fifty foot tall blonde bombshell casting a
- 13:42Speaker 1: shadow on his side of the fucking street. It wasn't paranoia,
- 13:45Speaker 1: it wasn't jealousy. Okay, maybe it was, but it was
- 13:48Speaker 1: something else too. It was self preservation. Just look at
- 13:52Speaker 1: the New York Times review of the Velvet's live show,
- 13:55Speaker 1: the same one that baffled the hippies out West. The
- 13:57Speaker 1: Times made sure they mentioned Nico, famous fashion model and
- 14:01Speaker 1: now singer, as well as John Kale, who was dubbed
- 14:04Speaker 1: the group's leader, but the article never mentioned Lou Reed,
- 14:08Speaker 1: not once.
- 14:09Speaker 2: And that gun under loose skin.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Now he had this album, this incredible album, and his
- 14:15Speaker 1: name was nowhere on it. Andy Warhol's name was on
- 14:18Speaker 1: the cover Twice produced by Andy Warhol was printed on
- 14:20Speaker 1: the back of the LP jacket in the font just
- 14:22Speaker 1: as large as the title of the record, which was
- 14:25Speaker 1: rich because you know, Andy knew fuck all about producing
- 14:27Speaker 1: a rock and roll album. And there it was again,
- 14:29Speaker 1: on the front of the LP jacket, just below that
- 14:32Speaker 1: giant dick. Okay, it wasn't actually a dick. It was
- 14:34Speaker 1: Andy's print of a yellow banana that he stole off
- 14:37Speaker 1: an ash tray from some promotional item printed a couple
- 14:39Speaker 1: decades before. That banana was actually a sticker they could
- 14:42Speaker 1: peel off slowly to see this bright pink banana flesh
- 14:45Speaker 1: beneath it. Okay, come on, now, that was a dick.
- 14:48Speaker 1: It's definitely a dick.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Lou didn't even mind that it was a dick. Lou
- 14:51Speaker 2: was fine with dick's. The problem was that Andy was
- 14:54Speaker 2: a dick, and it was Andy, Andy's name, and yes,
- 14:58Speaker 2: Andy's dick. And maybe Lou.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Would have looked past all that if the album had
- 15:02Speaker 1: just sold well. But no one was buying it. The
- 15:06Speaker 1: Velvet Underground and Nico was roundly ignored when it was
- 15:09Speaker 1: released in March of nineteen sixty seven. The record label
- 15:12Speaker 1: didn't promote it. No disc jockey was risking their job
- 15:15Speaker 1: to play songs about junkies and speed freaks and sm
- 15:18Speaker 1: M on the air, not even their own hometown. In
- 15:21Speaker 1: The Velvet Underground, a band that was a mirror to
- 15:24Speaker 1: the thriving, seedy underbelly of New York was effectively banned
- 15:28Speaker 1: by that same city. Louie didn't want excuses. Though he
- 15:32Speaker 1: wanted success, he wanted fame, and more than just those
- 15:36Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of fame that Andy Warhol kept going on about.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Andy could whine and moan all he wanted, but Lou
- 15:43Speaker 1: was tougher, and lou was more than tough in his mind,
- 15:47Speaker 1: he was a fucking king, a king fueled by metamphetamine,
- 15:51Speaker 1: wired on speed. Lou thought faster, talked faster, and acted faster.
- 15:56Speaker 1: And if Andy wanted to calm a fucking rat, then fine,
- 16:00Speaker 1: Luke could stand being a fucking rat. There was all
- 16:03Speaker 1: this other bullshit he couldn't stand anymore. The elevator made
- 16:09Speaker 1: its way up to the sixth floor of the Decker building.
- 16:12Speaker 2: When it arrived, the bell rang out.
- 16:13Speaker 1: And the doors of the elevator slid overen. Andy Warhol,
- 16:17Speaker 1: dressed all in black with a shock of silver hair
- 16:19Speaker 1: perched on top, stepped into the hallway and began to
- 16:22Speaker 1: walk towards his office.
- 16:23Speaker 2: A woman was waiting for him. He knew her. She
- 16:26Speaker 2: looked impatient.
- 16:28Speaker 1: Andy assumed she was there to talk about her script,
- 16:31Speaker 1: the script she wanted Andy to produce. But she wasn't
- 16:34Speaker 1: holding a script today. Instead, her fingers were clenched tight.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Around the handle of a thirty two Burretta.
- 16:45Speaker 1: After his professional relationship with the Velvet Underground came to
- 16:48Speaker 1: an end, Andy Warhol relocated his studio the Factory to
- 16:52Speaker 1: Union Square, the kind of neighborhood in the late sixties
- 16:55Speaker 1: that you'd find in a Lou Reed song. But Andy
- 16:58Speaker 1: no longer had Lou Reed or his songs, and New
- 17:01Speaker 1: York no longer had the Velvet Underground. Andy's old band
- 17:05Speaker 1: was busy creating a new family two hundred miles away
- 17:08Speaker 1: in Boston. No bullhips, no light show, no film projections,
- 17:13Speaker 1: just rock and roll. Andy couldn't help but take it personally.
- 17:17Speaker 1: The snub, the relocation, but the Velvet's exile to another
- 17:21Speaker 1: city was a self imposed middle finger aimed at all
- 17:23Speaker 1: of New York in general. Andy liked to think the
- 17:26Speaker 1: band extended an olive branch to him when they had
- 17:29Speaker 1: him create the cover art for their second album, But
- 17:32Speaker 1: the music had changed since the first record, White Light
- 17:35Speaker 1: White Heat was jittery, aggressive and the sound of amphetamines
- 17:39Speaker 1: in haste fuzzy and distorted, and it had one hundred
- 17:42Speaker 1: percent less Nico. Getting Andy out of the picture was
- 17:45Speaker 1: only the first step in Loo's plan. With Andy on
- 17:49Speaker 1: Lou set his sights on the German model. Nico was
- 17:52Speaker 1: a concept, a marketing ploy. She wasn't part of the band,
- 17:56Speaker 1: not really. Lou did his fast talking, pill fueled king
- 17:59Speaker 1: rat thing and got John Klee to agree with him.
- 18:01Speaker 1: So when the time came to fire, Nico, and that
- 18:04Speaker 1: time came real fucking fast. John had loose back plus
- 18:08Speaker 1: white light, white heat was a brand new sound. It
- 18:11Speaker 1: was fast, It had nails and teeth. It was doggy, dog,
- 18:14Speaker 1: bitch on bitch, It was surviving. People who were gathered
- 18:19Speaker 1: near Andy Warhol's office scattered when the first shot went off.
- 18:23Speaker 1: The barrel of the barretta was smoking in the woman's hands.
- 18:26Speaker 1: She pulled the trigger again. Andy watched in horror as
- 18:29Speaker 1: someone was hit. Andy went to take shelter behind a desk,
- 18:32Speaker 1: but in his panic he bumped into it and lost
- 18:34Speaker 1: his balance. His head hit the corner of the desk
- 18:36Speaker 1: on his way down, and his vision went blurry.
- 18:39Speaker 2: And then she was on him.
- 18:41Speaker 1: The butt of her bretta pressed hard and his right side.
- 18:44Speaker 1: He heard the pistol fire again, then a burning sensation
- 18:47Speaker 1: just under his armpit. Blood began to pool on the
- 18:50Speaker 1: floor beneath him. The gunshot was so close, so loud,
- 18:54Speaker 1: his ears were ringing a drone one long note. It
- 18:59Speaker 1: rang out into infinity, smothering his head like the strings
- 19:03Speaker 1: of a bow across a viola, or feedback from an
- 19:05Speaker 1: amplifier turned all the way up to ten, or an
- 19:07Speaker 1: elevator bell cast down a hallway to hell, a soundtrack
- 19:11Speaker 1: to his pain. He saw an array of colors made
- 19:14Speaker 1: of tears. He spat up blood. It hurt to breathe.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Jesus fuck. He'd been shot in the fucking lung. He
- 19:21Speaker 2: knew it.
- 19:21Speaker 1: He could see his business manager, Fred Hughes, out of
- 19:24Speaker 1: the corner of his eye, on his knees, hands raised,
- 19:26Speaker 1: bagging Valerie.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I'm innocent.
- 19:28Speaker 1: She walked over and aimed the gun at Fred's head.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot you, Fred whimpered. He knew the dear
- 19:34Speaker 1: mistress was about to strike Valerie. Don't shoot, and she
- 19:37Speaker 1: pushed the gun closer to Fred.
- 19:39Speaker 2: I have to, she said.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Andy closed his eyes and waited to hear the gun
- 19:43Speaker 1: fire one more time. Before it did, the elevator bell
- 19:47Speaker 1: rang out. Andy opened his eyes. He struggled through double
- 19:51Speaker 1: vision to look, but there was nothing to see. The
- 19:54Speaker 1: elevator was empty. The room went dark, and Andy Warhol
- 19:58Speaker 1: dreamt for a thousand years, We'll be right back after this.
- 20:05Speaker 2: We're We're where.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Lou Reid was in Los Angeles when he heard that
- 20:13Speaker 1: Andy Warhol was dead. Technically, Andy had been pronounced clinically dead,
- 20:19Speaker 1: but that was before the doctor's at Columbus Hospital went
- 20:21Speaker 1: to work. They cut his chest open, and they massaged
- 20:25Speaker 1: his heart with their hands, and they brought Andy.
- 20:27Speaker 2: Back to life.
- 20:29Speaker 1: The bullet from Valerie Salanis's beretta had ripped through Andy's stomach,
- 20:32Speaker 1: his liver, his screen, his esophagus, in both his lungs.
- 20:37Speaker 2: He should have died instead. He had a new lease
- 20:39Speaker 2: on life, but it was a lease that came to
- 20:41Speaker 2: a caveat.
- 20:43Speaker 1: He developed an incisional hernia during the five hour procedure,
- 20:46Speaker 1: which men he'd have to wear a corset for the
- 20:48Speaker 1: rest of his life to keep his internal organs in place.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Lou knew he should call, and that would be the
- 20:54Speaker 1: right thing to do, express his shock for what had happened,
- 20:57Speaker 1: his guilt for not being there, his gratitud that all
- 21:00Speaker 1: things considered, Andy was okay.
- 21:03Speaker 2: But Lou didn't call, not right away.
- 21:06Speaker 1: He was busy thinking about that girl, the one at
- 21:09Speaker 1: the Boston tea party. Not the tea party, tea party.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Not that old ship docked off Boston Harbor that runs
- 21:14Speaker 1: towards at the top of the hour with kids making
- 21:16Speaker 1: minimum wage, dressed up like ye old sons of liberty.
- 21:19Speaker 1: I'm talking about the legendary music venue called the Boston
- 21:22Speaker 1: Tea Party, now defunct, that was once located on Berkeley
- 21:25Speaker 1: Street in the South End and later relocated to Lansdowne
- 21:28Speaker 1: Street next to Fenway Park.
- 21:30Speaker 2: That Boston Tea Party, it.
- 21:32Speaker 1: Was where The Velvet Underground played regular gigs for a
- 21:34Speaker 1: diehard faction of local Boston fans who embraced the band
- 21:37Speaker 1: as their own. It was that place that Lou was
- 21:40Speaker 1: thinking of now, specifically the girl who walked right up
- 21:43Speaker 1: to him and said, you make me so crazy, I
- 21:45Speaker 1: want to kill you. She had that look in her eyes.
- 21:49Speaker 1: He'd seen it before. He wondered if Andy saw that
- 21:52Speaker 1: same look in Valerie's eyes when she pulled the trigger.
- 21:55Speaker 1: The Tea Party girl meant well, meant it as a compliment, really,
- 21:58Speaker 1: but it was unsettling all the same. At first, Lou
- 22:01Speaker 1: thought he'd just misheard her. It was loud inside the venue,
- 22:05Speaker 1: even if The Velvet's definition of a good turnout for
- 22:07Speaker 1: a show is like forty people. Hippi's held court in
- 22:10Speaker 1: one corner, bikers in another, drug dealers, skulp pass r teachers,
- 22:15Speaker 1: local thug sized up, a couple of Harvard students that
- 22:18Speaker 1: goofy kid Jonathan Richmond was around here somewhere, probably bugging
- 22:21Speaker 1: Sterling Morrison again to show him how to play those
- 22:23Speaker 1: chords on his guitar. Lou asked the girl to repeat herself.
- 22:27Speaker 2: I said, you're making me so crazy, I want to
- 22:30Speaker 2: kill you. Yeah, that's what he thought.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Fucking weirdo. They're all freaks and weirdos. Some are lovable,
- 22:38Speaker 1: the others just fucking crazy. The girls walk up to
- 22:41Speaker 1: Paul McCartney and say.
- 22:42Speaker 2: They wanted to kill him.
- 22:43Speaker 1: What was going to stop someone like Valerie Sillanis from
- 22:45Speaker 1: walking right up to Loo, pulling a piece from her
- 22:47Speaker 1: pocket and blowing his fucking brains out. Andy should have
- 22:50Speaker 1: had locks on the doors security man instead of yes man.
- 22:54Speaker 1: He shouldn't let so many random people get that close
- 22:56Speaker 1: to him. Candy Darling, Duck and Sally Edie Said Edwick International,
- 23:01Speaker 1: Velvet Ingrid, Superstar, Sweet Jane, Ultraviolet, Teenage, Mary, Margarita Passion.
- 23:06Speaker 1: The cast of characters who were in and out of
- 23:08Speaker 1: the Factory were dreamers and artists and outcasts, but some
- 23:11Speaker 1: were also deviants and junkies and opportunists and criminals. And
- 23:15Speaker 1: then there were people like Valerie Salanis, people who were
- 23:18Speaker 1: obviously disturbed. You could laugh at Valerie's scum manifesto. That's
- 23:23Speaker 1: scum aka the Society for Cutting Up Men, the one
- 23:28Speaker 1: she sold copies of in Greenwich Village for a buck
- 23:30Speaker 1: two bucks. If you had to swing in dick, you
- 23:32Speaker 1: could call it satire, a big joke. But Valerie was
- 23:35Speaker 1: dead fucking serious. She was dead serious when she wrote
- 23:39Speaker 1: that women should quote overthrow the government, eliminate the money system,
- 23:42Speaker 1: institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex unquote.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Lou knew that being.
- 23:48Speaker 1: A man wasn't what got Andy shott. Andy let Valerie
- 23:51Speaker 1: get too close. He accepted a copy of her script.
- 23:55Speaker 1: He admitted that he didn't like the script and thus
- 23:57Speaker 1: wasn't going to produce it, and then in this is
- 24:00Speaker 1: probably the kicker here, he lost the fucking thing. That
- 24:03Speaker 1: was just Andy being Andy in the eyes of Valerie Selanis. However,
- 24:07Speaker 1: Andy was silencing her voice, or worse, Andy was stealing
- 24:12Speaker 1: her voice. Later that evening, on June third, nineteen sixty eight,
- 24:18Speaker 1: while Andy Warhol was fighting for his life in the hospital,
- 24:21Speaker 1: Valerie approached a cop in Times Square and gave herself up.
- 24:25Speaker 1: She said that she shot Andy Warhol because he had
- 24:27Speaker 1: too much control over her life. Days went by and
- 24:30Speaker 1: Lou still didn't call, But that didn't mean he wasn't
- 24:34Speaker 1: thinking about Andy, or that he wasn't thinking about what
- 24:36Speaker 1: Valerie Selenis had said about control. Control was the thing.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Control was all you had. Andy lost it and Valerie
- 24:44Speaker 1: wasn't looking for it. That got Lou thinking about John Cale,
- 24:49Speaker 1: an integral part of the Velvet Underground before they adopted
- 24:52Speaker 1: that name, since way back when they were the Primitives,
- 24:55Speaker 1: and then the Warlocks and then the Falling Spikes. Where
- 24:58Speaker 1: once Lou saw a partner, Lou now saw arrival, someone
- 25:02Speaker 1: jockeying for position, someone jockeying for control. John Kele was
- 25:07Speaker 1: no different than Nico. John Kele was in the way.
- 25:10Speaker 1: John Cale was a hurdle, and Lou Reid didn't fucking
- 25:13Speaker 1: jump over other people. Lou was beginning to see the light,
- 25:18Speaker 1: not that Sterling, Morrison or Mo Tucker could tell. It
- 25:21Speaker 1: was impossible to tell if Lou was happy or sad,
- 25:23Speaker 1: pissed off or excited. Sterling and Moe sat across the
- 25:27Speaker 1: table from Lou and watched uncomfortably as he tried to smile,
- 25:30Speaker 1: but he couldn't. Like he literally could not make his
- 25:33Speaker 1: face form a smile. He tried, and his cheeks and
- 25:36Speaker 1: lips contorted into some painful monstrosity of confused emotion, the
- 25:40Speaker 1: junkie smile, the smile of a man whose muscula chair
- 25:43Speaker 1: has been altered by meta amphetamine. Lou didn't need to smile,
- 25:48Speaker 1: He just needed to talk to remind Sterling and Moe
- 25:51Speaker 1: that The Velvet Underground had two albums out, two albums
- 25:55Speaker 1: on a major label, on Ella Fitzgerald's label, for God's sake,
- 25:58Speaker 1: and nobody was buying them. Nobody was playing them. No
- 26:01Speaker 1: one outside of a couple of weirdos that the tea
- 26:03Speaker 1: party knew who the fuck the Velvet Underground was. The
- 26:06Speaker 1: band needed to make a change. If they were going
- 26:08Speaker 1: to survive, and not just survive, but thrive, they had
- 26:11Speaker 1: to make it, and to make it, they needed a hit.
- 26:15Speaker 1: No more noise, no more experimentation, just songs. Lou had
- 26:19Speaker 1: the songs. Lou just needed good players who could execute
- 26:22Speaker 1: those songs the way Lou intended. John Cale was not
- 26:26Speaker 1: one of those players. John Cale had his own ideas,
- 26:30Speaker 1: and Lou didn't need those ideas. Lou needed songs and
- 26:33Speaker 1: Lou needed control. Sterling and Moe were shocked. John Cale
- 26:38Speaker 1: out of the band that would be a crime, But
- 26:40Speaker 1: any and all objections Sterling and Moe raised where quickly
- 26:43Speaker 1: was drawn because if John stayed, Lou was leaving, and Lou,
- 26:49Speaker 1: being the primary songwriter, meant the band but ceased to
- 26:51Speaker 1: exist if he was gone, which further men, Sterling and
- 26:54Speaker 1: Moe would be out of a job, and they had
- 26:56Speaker 1: no other choice but to agree with their leader. And
- 27:00Speaker 1: did what leaders in control do. He delegated. He told
- 27:04Speaker 1: Sterling Morrison to go find John Cale and tell him
- 27:07Speaker 1: he was out of the band. Debbie Harry was stoned.
- 27:35Speaker 1: She fumbled the plate in her hands on her way
- 27:37Speaker 1: over to table five. She watched the cheeseburger go airborne.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Fuck. Debbie thought, not again.
- 27:46Speaker 1: This wasn't the first time Debbie Harry dropped a burger
- 27:48Speaker 1: in a customer's lap.
- 27:50Speaker 2: It was a miracle.
- 27:51Speaker 1: She hadn't been fired yet, not like there was a
- 27:53Speaker 1: line of girls dying to take her place waitressing in Maxis,
- 27:56Speaker 1: Kansas City, which despite its name, was a nightclub and
- 27:59Speaker 1: restaurant not in Kansas City, but on Park Avenue South
- 28:02Speaker 1: in Manhattan. She knew she wasn't destined to sling Burghers
- 28:05Speaker 1: the rest of her life. She wanted to be off
- 28:07Speaker 1: Max's dining room floor and up on Max's stage, just
- 28:10Speaker 1: like this band she was watching.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Now.
- 28:13Speaker 1: She knew she'd get there one way or another. Debbie
- 28:16Speaker 1: Harry wasn't the only one. There's a quote attributed to
- 28:19Speaker 1: Brian Eno, but who knows really that goes The first
- 28:22Speaker 1: Velvet Underground album only sold ten thousand copies, but everyone
- 28:25Speaker 1: who bought it formed a band. The erroneous sales figure aside,
- 28:30Speaker 1: that quote gets to the heart of the Velvet Underground's appeal.
- 28:33Speaker 1: They were rough around the edges, they were out of tune,
- 28:35Speaker 1: they weren't pretty, They didn't sell a ton of records.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Few people actually knew about them.
- 28:40Speaker 1: But you know about them and you love them for
- 28:42Speaker 1: all those reasons I just listed. It's easy to create
- 28:45Speaker 1: an intensely intimate relationship with the band like the Velvet
- 28:48Speaker 1: Underground because they belonged to you. In August nineteen seventy,
- 28:54Speaker 1: the Velvet Underground once again belonged to New York City.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Three years had passed since they last played at manhatt
- 29:00Speaker 1: and the Hatchets were buried, or at the very least,
- 29:03Speaker 1: the Hatchets were hidden, like Andy's crowd was hiding in
- 29:06Speaker 1: plain sight in the back room of Maxis, Kansas City.
- 29:09Speaker 1: Debbie Harry wasn't part of any crowd, but she watched
- 29:12Speaker 1: the back room with a waitress's eli. She watched night
- 29:16Speaker 1: after night of routine violations of local law and good taste.
- 29:20Speaker 1: A couple fucking on the floor, a woman with a
- 29:22Speaker 1: wine bottle in her hand standing on a table screaming.
- 29:24Speaker 1: It showed time right before she spread her legs and
- 29:27Speaker 1: shoved the wine bottle up deep inside of her. All
- 29:30Speaker 1: this decadence churning, and there's Andy Warhol sitting still like
- 29:34Speaker 1: a man preparing himself to move on from mourning, holding
- 29:37Speaker 1: cord on the whole scene, while that fucking girdle held
- 29:40Speaker 1: his insides together, surrounded again by people strength in numbers.
- 29:45Speaker 1: It was a brave face, but everyone knew he was
- 29:47Speaker 1: forever changed. He would never be the same again. Ditto
- 29:51Speaker 1: for the velvet underground. Moe Tucker saw the writing on
- 29:54Speaker 1: the wall. Actually, she saw the other guy behind her
- 29:57Speaker 1: drum kit and knew that Jake was up, that Lou
- 30:00Speaker 1: had gutten what he wanted. Moe watched her band, along
- 30:03Speaker 1: with the rest of the audience and felt glum. She
- 30:06Speaker 1: was a new mother in maternity leave meant this watching
- 30:09Speaker 1: from the wings, watching a Billy Yule hammered away at
- 30:12Speaker 1: the kit with a style that was far more flashy
- 30:15Speaker 1: than she ever played. Billy's brother, Doug was the new
- 30:18Speaker 1: John Kle and the Yule Brothers did what Lou wanted.
- 30:21Speaker 1: They harmonized and made songs like I'm Waiting for the
- 30:24Speaker 1: Man sore, like garage rock gems. They brought the kind
- 30:27Speaker 1: of chops that Lou and John and Moe had always avoided.
- 30:31Speaker 1: They were uptight in their own way, not in a
- 30:33Speaker 1: factory kind of way, but in a meat and potatoes
- 30:36Speaker 1: kind of way. No viola's, no bells and whistles, no frills,
- 30:39Speaker 1: just rock and roll. That was the whole idea behind
- 30:44Speaker 1: the title of The Velvet Underground's fourth studio album, Loaded.
- 30:47Speaker 1: The record was loaded with hits, honest to god FM
- 30:51Speaker 1: Radio friendly go down in the annals of history rock
- 30:54Speaker 1: and roll hits. It was exactly what lou Reid wanted,
- 30:57Speaker 1: in exactly what Lou Reid's scheme to make happen, and
- 31:00Speaker 1: it worked. It is the most successful record in the
- 31:03Speaker 1: band's career. Two songs from that album, in particular Sweet
- 31:06Speaker 1: Jane and Rock and Roll, remained stables of classic rock
- 31:09Speaker 1: radio to this day. This being the Velvet Underground. However,
- 31:14Speaker 1: the title had a dual meeting Loaded as in high
- 31:18Speaker 1: as fuck, a state of mind, and a message that
- 31:21Speaker 1: the band knew all too well. The thing was Loaded
- 31:24Speaker 1: wasn't even a Velvet Underground record. It had Lou, and
- 31:27Speaker 1: it had Stirling, but with her new baby mosat this
- 31:30Speaker 1: one out. Despite the fact that her name is on
- 31:32Speaker 1: the album jacket, it took four session drummers to replace her.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Lou Reed's war of attrition. This process of elimination had
- 31:40Speaker 1: reached its inevitable climax, first Andy, then Nico, then John,
- 31:45Speaker 1: then Mo and finally himself.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Lou walked away from one of those.
- 31:51Speaker 1: Shows at Max's in the summer of nineteen seventy and
- 31:54Speaker 1: never went back. When Loaded was finally released in November
- 31:58Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy, just a few months after the band's
- 32:01Speaker 1: now legendary residency at Maxis, Kansas City, Velvet Underground.
- 32:05Speaker 2: As it began was over.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Lou Reid was back living with his parents, working as
- 32:10Speaker 1: a typist in his father's accounting firm for forty bucks
- 32:13Speaker 1: a week. His band had been all about degradation, anything
- 32:17Speaker 1: to put a spike in the status quo. But the
- 32:20Speaker 1: great new weed working in a fucking accounting office, Now
- 32:24Speaker 1: that's a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan and this is Disgraceland.
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