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The Next Round: NFL Buy or Sell, Arch Manning’s Draft Stock & College Football’s $50M Rosters | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: seem like some people not believing in the chargers, some
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  Speaker 1: people believing more in the giants than they were going
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  Speaker 1: into the season. So let's do some buy and sells
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  Speaker 1: and maybe look at some wind totals. Um, as we
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  Speaker 1: bounce through this, start us off, man, give us a
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  Speaker 1: buyer sell team and, uh, a win total right now
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  Speaker 1: that you want to throw out at us?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of people out there right
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  Speaker 2: now didn't believe in the Jacksonville Jaguars. And look, I
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  Speaker 2: know it was Cleveland, so it's kind of still hard
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  Speaker 2: to get a gauge. They were at home against Deshaun Watson,
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  Speaker 2: a guy that we really haven't seen in years, at
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  Speaker 2: least starting week one of an NFL season. But they
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  Speaker 2: were dominant. And since their trip to London last year
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  Speaker 2: where they got dismantled by the Rams, that Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 2: offense and the relationship with Trevor Lawrence has really popped.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they were before this season. I
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  Speaker 2: want to say it was nine and a half. But
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  Speaker 2: I would feel pretty good about Jacksonville based on how
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  Speaker 2: the Titans looked. They've got them twice. How the Colts look.
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  Speaker 2: They've got them twice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville was eight and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you can currently the current odds that I see
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  Speaker 1: for the Jags right now. A lot of them at
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  Speaker 1: nine and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's it like last year. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how many jump this year. But of the 32 team
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  Speaker 2: totals after one week, 14 changed. I would buy.
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  Speaker 1: I think I would buy them at nine and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Are we buying on whether it's a playoff team or
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  Speaker 1: the win total?
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  Speaker 2: The win total.
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  Speaker 1: Can they get over nine and a half wins? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll buy the win total at nine and a half.
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  Speaker 1: But I still don't think it's a playoff team.
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  Speaker 2: Who's going to win that division?
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  Speaker 1: You think Houston's going to win that division?
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  Speaker 2: Houston's going to win that division. But it's one of two.
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  Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be surprised right now with the uncertainty
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  Speaker 2: in the West. We don't know what we're getting with
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers. I know it's week one. But the way
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  Speaker 2: Denver looked like, is there a possibility that one team
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  Speaker 2: comes out of the West? If that's the case, then
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  Speaker 2: there's only one team that's going to come out of, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'd say that. Cincinnati and Baltimore possibly could. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And then I still believe in the Colts in the
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  Speaker 1: AFC South. So I think you can get Houston and
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  Speaker 1: the Colts out of there.
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  Speaker 2: It's one week, man. It's one week. No, I get it,
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  Speaker 2: but I would trust Jacksonville a lot more after one
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  Speaker 2: week than I would the Colts giving up 41 points.
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  Speaker 1: God knows Trevor Lawrence never has an up and down season.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask you guys this one.
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  Speaker 2: How about the New York Jets after one week? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: their win total before the season, I want to say,
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  Speaker 2: was four and a half, maybe five and a half.
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  Speaker 1: The New York Jets opened at five and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Five and a half. And you can currently get... Well,
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  Speaker 2: I wish they would do these alphabetically. It sure would
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  Speaker 2: help me.
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  Speaker 1: You can currently get the Jets at six and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I would sell at six and a half. I would
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  Speaker 1: buy at five and a half. I think they win six.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, seven and ten seems like a high, but
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  Speaker 2: think about this.
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  Speaker 1: They get to play the Dolphins twice.
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  Speaker 2: They got the Dolphins twice coming up. They've got the Browns.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the schedule. They've already beaten the Titans.
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  Speaker 2: They've got the Browns. They got the Dolphins twice. The
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  Speaker 2: Browns are at home. I feel pretty good about that.
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  Speaker 2: They get the Raiders at home. I feel like the
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  Speaker 2: Jets are better than the Raiders right now. But see,
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  Speaker 2: I think we.
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  Speaker 1: Can do this in college football when you start looking
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  Speaker 1: at schedules. But when you do it in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels different. Yeah, it's just because so many
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  Speaker 1: one possession games. Here's where the NFL is going to
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  Speaker 1: trip you up. Do you believe the Dolphins go winless?
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  Speaker 1: no so they're gonna beat somebody yes but every time
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  Speaker 1: you go down a schedule like oh they got the
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  Speaker 1: dolphins that's a win but the dolphins are gonna beat
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  Speaker 1: somebody and by the way when you did the chargers
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  Speaker 1: preseason you looked at the cardinals you went w i
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  Speaker 1: did it in our survivor pool week one and i'm
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  Speaker 1: out already oh.
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  Speaker 2: I still think people will look at the cardinals they
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  Speaker 2: put the w moving.
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  Speaker 1: That's why it's dangerous in the nfl of course it's
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  Speaker 1: just as dangerous in college you'd have gone w with
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  Speaker 1: the oklahoma state over Or Oregon over Oklahoma State, too.
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  Speaker 2: As improbable as it seems, the Dolphins probably will go
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  Speaker 2: to San Francisco and win this week. It's 13 and
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  Speaker 2: a half point. They're a two-touchdown dog. They're not winning
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  Speaker 2: at San Francisco. Yeah, but that's the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. But my point is, the Dolphins are
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  Speaker 1: not going to go winless. They're going to win a game.
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  Speaker 2: Six and a half is pretty ambitious. I think I
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  Speaker 2: would lean over, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sliding in at six right there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so, you know, I think we're all high on
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  Speaker 2: the Houston Texans coming off a loss. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 2: Houston before the season was ten and a half. You
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  Speaker 2: might be able to grab that at nine and a half.
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  Speaker 2: If I can get them at nine and a half,
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  Speaker 2: I'm buying. You're buying all in. Nine and a half
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  Speaker 2: was actually the preseason for Houston. Oh, gosh. How do
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  Speaker 2: I not live in a mansion? Probably hasn't moved losing.
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  Speaker 2: The Texans are currently 9 1⁄2.
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  Speaker 1: How do I not live in a mansion? How do
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  Speaker 1: I not live in a mansion?
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  Speaker 2: I think I would still buy. That's so easy. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is big because they host the Bengals this weekend, though.
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  Speaker 2: If you lose that game and you go 0-2, you've
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  Speaker 2: seen the numbers before. Teams that fall to 0-2 and
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  Speaker 2: getting to the postseason in the NFL, really, really difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I think you throw those numbers out when you do
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  Speaker 1: the AFC South and the NFC South. Well, and I
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  Speaker 1: tell you, those numbers are going to change historically with
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  Speaker 1: 17 games as well.
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  Speaker 2: That was a 16-game series. Yeah, I've kind of got
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  Speaker 2: a feeling they're going to start 6-1 now. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're about to reel off six straight wins. They've got
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  Speaker 2: the Bengals at home at the Colts, Cowboys at home
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  Speaker 2: at Titans, Jags at home, Giants at home.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of the Bengals' bucks you
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  Speaker 1: all watch, but Cincinnati is not as good as the
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  Speaker 1: score would indicate.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was a ton of fumbles.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't play that well. I had them in the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And the Texans were playing the Bills, and
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  Speaker 1: to me that was two teams that could win the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and that was back and forth. I was
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  Speaker 1: just surprised at how high-scoring that game was, but it's
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go with an overreaction possibly with Kansas City. I've
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  Speaker 2: heard everybody, hey, man, Pat Mahomes is going to be
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  Speaker 2: just fine. You saw the rushing yards. You saw the
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  Speaker 2: rushing touchdown. You saw Kenneth Walker, how good K-9 looked.
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  Speaker 2: The defense wasn't a problem at all.
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  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is now only behind Tony Gonzalez. on all-time
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  Speaker 1: receiving yards for a tight end he's second all-time and
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  Speaker 1: he looked younger.
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  Speaker 2: Man they have got a really really forgiving schedule at
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  Speaker 2: least early uh.
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  Speaker 1: What happens when you miss the play they open 10
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  Speaker 1: and a half still at 10 and a half and
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  Speaker 1: i'm buying at that number yeah probably gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: 11 i think i'm gonna sell i i think 10
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  Speaker 2: or 9 or 10 this is where it gets really
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  Speaker 2: tricky because these numbers are going to be right on
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  Speaker 2: it 10 is 10 and 7 yeah I got them
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  Speaker 2: at 11.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Bo Nix couldn't have played worse, right? He
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  Speaker 1: could not have, but how much of that was their defense?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to give their defense some credit
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  Speaker 1: for that.
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  Speaker 2: Still making over that complete secondary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they had 176 yards is what Denver
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  Speaker 1: had in that game. But what was more encouraging, if
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  Speaker 1: you're buying the Chiefs, is that Denver defense wasn't coming
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  Speaker 1: off an ankle injury. No, that Denver defense is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be great. So all of that. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at. It's what did KC's offense– look like
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  Speaker 1: against Denver's defense, and that's a buy for me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm buying. Okay, the other side of that division, the L.A. Chargers.
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  Speaker 2: I do not panic after one game. That's a buy
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  Speaker 2: all day long. The Chargers were at 9.5.
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  Speaker 1: This is what we call value pick. This is why
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  Speaker 1: we all live in mansions. You can now get them
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  Speaker 1: at 8.5, which I would buy on.
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  Speaker 2: I'd buy, but listen to this schedule. Okay, so you've
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  Speaker 2: got the Raiders this week. I heard some Survivor talk
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of people will play the Chargers this
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  Speaker 2: week against the Raiders. I don't know how good you
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  Speaker 2: would feel about that because the Raiders look improved. The
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  Speaker 2: Chargers look completely like they lost.
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  Speaker 1: Are they going to lose back-to-back to the Cardinals and
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders?
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  Speaker 2: You wouldn't think. But even if they beat the Raiders,
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  Speaker 2: then they go to Buffalo. Then they go to Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Probably lost. They host the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: That's a win.
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  Speaker 2: They go to the Chiefs. Tough game. They go to
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  Speaker 2: the Rams. Tough game. Wow. They've got the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: That's a schedule.
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  Speaker 2: They go to the Ravens after that. That's a tough schedule.
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  Speaker 2: That's a tough schedule. That is absolutely brutal.
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  Speaker 1: That's brutal.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a chance that they start 1-7. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to buy them. I'm going to buy them.
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  Speaker 2: I'll buy two. I don't know how after that schedule.
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  Speaker 1: You should just make a case for them to start
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  Speaker 1: 1-7 and then bolt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. At 9.5.
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  Speaker 1: If you could still get to 9.5 starting 1-7.
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  Speaker 2: You better be really good. I mean, how important is
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  Speaker 2: this game for Jim Harbaugh, though? Because if you lose
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  Speaker 2: to the Raiders and you're 0-2 and then you've got
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  Speaker 2: that gauntlet coming up, you might be out of the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Which is why they're a good play this weekend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the bad part is that you've lost to the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: and the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, where are you guys on the Saints? They were
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  Speaker 2: down 21-0. They came storming back. I thought Tyler Shuck
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  Speaker 2: looked really good in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Hear me out on this. We're doing with the Saints
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  Speaker 1: what we're doing with Texas. Texas had one good quarter,
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  Speaker 1: and now they're the number one team in the country.
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  Speaker 1: And we've ignored how bad they were though.
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  Speaker 2: Other three quarters.
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  Speaker 1: The Saints went two and a half quarters without scoring
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  Speaker 1: a point. Now, when they started scoring... Detroit couldn't stop them.
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  Speaker 2: Look, everybody in that division, though, 0-1-1. I said before
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  Speaker 2: the season we went through it. I thought Carolina was
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  Speaker 2: going to win it, but if not, a surprise would
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  Speaker 2: be New Orleans. See, you say that as a negative.
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  Speaker 1: I would tell you as a member of that division,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's tied for first.
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  Speaker 2: It's one way to look at it. That's the way
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  Speaker 2: you have to look at it.
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  Speaker 1: Saints, sorry, Jim, Saints were 7-1-1, and they are now 7-1-1. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would buy. Selling. Now, Atlanta did not look good.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they won six last year. And I
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  Speaker 1: think you won the division by winning eight last year. See,
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  Speaker 1: that was a weird divisional Sunday because I think the
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  Speaker 1: Falcons are probably that bad. I don't think the Panthers
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  Speaker 1: are that bad. I think the Bucs are better than
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  Speaker 1: the score indicated.
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  Speaker 2: We should have won that game.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: You should have won the game. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the Saints are as good as their fourth quarter would indicate.
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  Speaker 2: Do you guys ever have weird thoughts when you're watching
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  Speaker 2: a game? I was looking at Kellen Moore, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, that is a cross between our buddy Chris
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  Speaker 2: Vernon and Casey Affleck. It's 100% like Casey Affleck and
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  Speaker 2: Chris Vernon had a baby.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you do that all the time. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: way your brain works. We'll do interviews and we'll play
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  Speaker 1: a clip. And that's always your first comment is that's
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  Speaker 1: a cross between so-and-so and so-and-so. So your brain works
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  Speaker 1: like that constantly. I never really even think about that.
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  Speaker 1: So while we're on the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: Real quick. They're going to start 0-2 because they go
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  Speaker 2: to Baltimore this week.
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  Speaker 1: Would you have gone for two at the end there?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I would not. I always go for the one.
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  Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: of that game you watched, but the Saints had a
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  Speaker 1: scoop and score that got called back for what I
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: didn't even realize was an actual rule. So the ruling was,
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  Speaker 1: so what happened was Goff gets hit. Jared Goff gets
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  Speaker 1: hit as he's throwing. And when he gets hit, it
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  Speaker 1: spins him backwards. So it created a lateral, a backward pass.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea this was a rule. It's almost
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  Speaker 1: like they invented this on the fly. They go to,
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  Speaker 1: it was either Blandino or Pereira. I think it was Pereira.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, guys, I know this sounds crazy, but he
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  Speaker 1: started his forward throwing motion. Right. So regardless of where
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  Speaker 1: the ball comes out on the hit, it's a forward pass.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Because of the contact. Well, the contact made it a
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  Speaker 1: backwards pass.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And Pereira's like, it has to be an obvious backward
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  Speaker 1: pass to be ruled a backward pass. I'm like, I've
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  Speaker 1: never heard that rule in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Now, say y'all are buying or selling. Yeah, I am
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  Speaker 2: going to.
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  Speaker 1: It's right on the line, but I'm going to sell them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm buying. They're going to be favored in eight games
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  Speaker 2: coming up, so. Whether or not they win those games,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. I do feel good about that. Where are
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  Speaker 2: you guys on the Rams right now? I mean, seriously. Oh, my.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought the Rams were going to go 13-4.
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  Speaker 2: 11-and-a-half. They only won 12 games last year. They were
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  Speaker 2: going 13-4 this year.
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  Speaker 1: That's one loss.
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  Speaker 2: I think they– I had them 12-5 before, but I
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  Speaker 2: had them winning that game. We went through the whole schedule. So,
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  Speaker 2: I am going to have to sell, which is sad.
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  Speaker 2: But that's where I am right now. 13-4. 15-2.
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  Speaker 1: The Saints were going to lose at San Francisco. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Rams, excuse me, were going to lose at San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a surprise to me that they lost to
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco. It happened to be in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was still after all of this off-season hype.
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  Speaker 2: They were going to lose at San Francisco. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: that was one side of the spectrum. In that division,
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  Speaker 2: Arizona was supposed to be, according to a lot, the
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  Speaker 2: worst team. Such an overreaction.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett can't play multiple good games. And he can't
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: play the rest.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew, Carson Beck. Look at what you've got waiting behind. Yeah.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: That's a sell.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: I don't even know the number. I don't have to
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: know the number.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's five and a half. You know half
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: the league has to lose every week. That's right. Okay.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: You've been buying a lot. Currently five and a half.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: Teams that are like five and a half. Sell, sell, sell.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: I just sold the Rams.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Five and a half, sell.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm buying there on the Arizona Cardinals. Is that enough?
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: That's plenty. Okay. Well, do one more. Can we do
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: one more? Let's go to the Bears. The Bears.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: That's the one I wanted to do because that has
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: been the biggest reaction. I've got them number one in
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: my power ranking.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: You've been licking them up and down all week. I'm buying,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: by the way. I've got to look at what the
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: numbers are, but I'm already buying, Jim. I hope you're
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: right because I got them second in our draft, so
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: I do own the Bears this year. But, boy, there's
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of hype coming after, you know, really three
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: great quarters against the Panthers.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears opened at 9.5. You can currently find
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: the Bears at 10.5.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Bye. I'm going to sell.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Ten and a half is a good number.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: I have Jim Cramer. I mean, again, it's maybe the
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: most difficult division as far as just pure balance.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I would say the injuries with the Packers pushed me
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: to a buy situation, but the Lions are still going
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: to win that division. 41.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: But aren't you concerned that Bryce Young went 361? A
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: little bit, but I think.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: That was the shootout nature of the game. They were
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: scoring so quickly. So I don't think that that's necessarily
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: an indictment on their defense when that defense is needed.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they had 24 points in the first half.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fun game, by the way. Continuing
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: our NFL segment today on the next round, presented by
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bets, I did want to bring up this.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: After watching two weeks now, in some cases three weeks now,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: of college football, where are you on this great college
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: football class today? as it projects to the NFL. This
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: quarterback class was supposed to be so deep, and we
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: were talking about so many people being drafted in the
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: first round of the NFL draft in that position. But
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: as we sit here with people dropping arch madness now,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: NFL teams scrambling to get arch, is there NFL quarterbacks
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: that you're just as he just phrased it, licking up
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: and down, trying to want them to be QB1 for you. Listen,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I cheer for a team that might actually draft quarterback
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: with the first pick. I mean, I want them to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: take Jeremiah Smith. I'd prefer him over any quarterback. I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: watched that game Saturday night knowing that. And I'm like, man,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning scares me to death. Give me the quarterback
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: that you think right now coming out of college. I
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: haven't seen one. Some would have been Dante Moore. Dante
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Moore's looked terrible.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Darian Mensah's looked the part. He really, really has. He has, yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: And look, Stanford and FAMU so far.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: That's my fear there, Stanford and FAMU. But I agree
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: with you right now. He's a guy. I'm just going
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: back to Tulane, to Duke, to where he is right now.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Mensah looks the part.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: To your point, he sort of has moved up the
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: ladder every time. Daniel in the chat says, Drew Mestemaker
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: first round.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Don't buy that, Daniel. Mestemaker's a first-round guy. I hope
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: he doesn't go to Tampa. I'm telling you, one to
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: look out for.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I hope he goes to New Orleans, Carolina. I want
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: to play him forever.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: There are two potential guys coming up this weekend in
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: the matchup between SMU and Louisville. Kevin Jennings, Lincoln Keenholz,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: who nobody's talking about right now.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Keenholz's impressive. Mestemaker, am I right? Is he the kid
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: that in high school had to play safety to get
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: on the field?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got one offer. It was
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: North Texas. Yeah. So he was a safety. That's right.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Couldn't win the job. Who was ahead of him? Well,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Where's that guy?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: You're going to hold that against him? No, I'm just saying.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: He was in high school. But you want the guy
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that was starting in front of him? How is he
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: not a system quarterback? How is he not a system quarterback?
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: He may be, but I mean, now, I've always said
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: every offense is a system. I know, but— But I
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: know what you're saying is he— Who's the great guest
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: we have on that says that Sam Leavitt is going to...
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: It's Brooks. Brooks said it again yesterday. Brooks Alston, that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Sam Leavitt is going to get a GM fire because he,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and I was about to bring this up, he's playing
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: for Lane Kiffin, who notoriously, now Jackson Dart is damaging
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: this narrative, but that Lane Kiffin notoriously basically sets the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: table for his quarterbacks and tells them which bite to eat. Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Essentially, right? Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Like Alabama fans saw it firsthand in Tuscaloosa. They could
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: hear him on TV whistle. Blake Sims or Jake Coker
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: or whoever looks to the sideline, and he gives a
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: signal telling him, there's your hot receiver.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: The Y is going to be open.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is your hot receiver based on the defense
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: they're showing us right now. You don't get that in
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and that's been the criticism, but Jackson Dart
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: is playing elite-level football right now.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And you didn't get that week one against Louisville the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: way Trinidad played. Look, if you want to take a
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: flyer on a small quarterback, a lot of people don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: like them. Trinidad is one of those.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: You just said it, Bryce Young, nobody's smaller than him
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he just tore.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It up Sunday. Trinidad might be smaller.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Kamario Taylor has shorter.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: He looks bigger, though, because he's thicker.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's shorter, definitely. 6'4, 230 with speed, Kamario Taylor.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: He's got to come back another year.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: He's got to come back. Yeah, he's a true sophomore.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Right now, State's trying to figure out how much we're
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: going to have to pay to have him back.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: More on that later. Yeah, I still think that Arch
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Manning's going to be fine. I think Dante Moore's going
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: to be fine. But to your point, I'm not tanking
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: if I'm anybody out there. I think that there is
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: too much value in how deep this quarterback draft could go.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I said it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: There were three people in my basement.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: And Jaden Maiva's a guy we hadn't talked about. He's
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: leading the nation in passing yards. He's sixth in completion percentage.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: He's leading the nation in touchdown passes. Okay, now that's
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: more intriguing to me. Maiva's more intriguing to me than
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Arch is right now, than Sam Leavitt is right now.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: To some of these guys that we were projecting to
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: be there, Mestemaker, I'm more in on Minson, Maiva than
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I am on Mestemaker. Yeah, Maiva also, I mean, the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: guy can run it a little bit enough. In the NFL,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I really don't want you— He's so freaking accurate. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: just want a guy that can extend it. That's right.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Or, I mean, if it's wide open to run and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: gets positive yardage slide.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Let's play another down.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: That's what they say in the chat. Is Dart playing
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: elite-level quarterback throwing it, or is it because he can
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: run so much?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you the most frustrating thing ever, and this
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: is just from a gambler's perspective. Sitting on the couch,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: you've got a third and 12, and the quarterback's able
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: to scramble to get it. Guys like Caleb Williams— yeah
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: father murray used to he played the dolphins one time
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and had like 500 rush yards it was pretty good
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: at tampa yes yes yeah but that'll drive you nuts
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: well now.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: There were three people in my basement but they heard
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: this but i said it saturday night i hope the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: dolphins do not draft quarterback and draft jeremiah smith to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: answer your question you said it on the air this
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: week i'd rather have jeremiah smith that guy could play
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: tomorrow for miami he could play tomorrow for most of the.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Nfl Ty Simpson, as good as he looked in camp,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: right now, Ty Simpson and another first-round pick for Jeremiah Smith.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, in a heartbeat. That's who I want. I don't
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: want a quarterback out of this class. I want Jeremiah Smith.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think right now Darian Mensah, I haven't
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: seen any projections either. I think he would be projected
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: going number one overall.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Give me Jeremiah Smith, and I'll figure out quarterbacks somehow,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: some other way.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: What you can't get baited into is the Manning name.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: The moment won't be too big for him, but there's
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: too much inconsistency right now.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I think we finally got to the phrase I needed
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: somebody to say, don't get baited into the Manning name.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: When they played Ohio State last year, Mendoza was. 222,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: one touchdown, one interception. Saturday night, Arch Manning. 197, one touchdown,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: one interception. Why with Mendoza? That's the Heisman Trophy winner
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: first overall pick, and we think he's going to be great.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning, virtually the same numbers against Ohio State. But
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we all don't get bought into the Manning name.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's because Manning has looked so bad early
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and then had the one fourth quarter in. We didn't
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: see Mendoza struggle last year. I mean, Mendoza was just fantastic.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: And I think we had a lot more, at least
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: these guys had a lot more film on Mendoza. You
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: guys know I was hyping him up when he was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: with Cal early on.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, you were. You loved him before he even took
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a snap in Indiana. But I think there's a track
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: record with Manning. Lance has brought this up a couple times,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and I thought it was very well said by Herbstreet.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: It was like that game was Manning's career in a nutshell.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Started awful for him, and by the end, he was
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: playing elite-level quarterback. That's why he did last year.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: He was awful.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: At the Horseshoe, and by the end of the year,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: he was playing elite-level quarterback. 26 targets in the first
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: three quarters. True media with the numbers here. Good follow.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: How many off-target passes did he make out of 26
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: in the first three quarters? Manny?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yep. I'd guess 13. I would say 10. It was five.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It was five.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It seemed worse than that. He threw 11 passes in
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. How many were off-target? 11 passes in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter? One.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Zero. Zero, yeah. He missed four.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: 26 targets, he missed five in the first three quarters.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter, he missed zero, 11 of 11.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I saw it a little bit different. Klatten knows a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: lot more than I do. I was focused on the
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: five misses. But they consider the one to Cam Coleman
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a good throw. I heard a lot of people saying
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: that's a good throw. It's not a good throw. He
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: had to fully extend. If you hit him in stride,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: it's an easy touchdown.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, was it in the Texas game?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: The Texas-Ohio State game where they were showing how the receiver,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it was the high 20 camera, and they were showing
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: how if the receiver just runs this towards the sideline,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: he's open. He runs it towards the middle of the field,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: which allows the safety not to have to go far
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to get to the ball.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: And people never talk about this.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: They never talk about that kind of stuff. Football people
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: are like, okay, so the receiver is supposed to be
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a harder cut over the middle, and he takes this cut,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: so it's underthrown. It's supposed to be this. And he
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: does this and it's overthrow. And I don't think it
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: was Coleman or Wingo that had run the route. But
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: if I remember, I watched so much football Saturday, but
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I think Herbstreet was saying it like this route. The
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: receivers got to know you've got to hedge towards the side.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: And I know, you know what?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: It was in the Dolphins game.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Now they're all rookie receivers. You've got to hedge towards
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the side. But this carries over to any game. You've
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: got to hedge towards the sidelines. If you run that
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: route towards the middle of the field, now the safety
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to go very far to get there.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: The quarterback always looks like the villain. That's right.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: He made the bad throw, but sometimes it's a bad route.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: That's right. Sometimes it's just a bad route. Austin Simmons
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: is another guy that could pick up some steam. Wow, really?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't trust that either. I'm just saying with the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: accuracy I've seen, look, it's early, but with his size,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: his release.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: He played well against Kansas. I mean, that was Kansas.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Before we go to break here and get back to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: some college football, I want to bring this up. Just
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to educate some of you younger folks on professional football,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in the Canadian League, the Ottawa Red Blacks have lost
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: 18 straight games. That's my favorite Canadian Football League team.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I adopted one back in our radio days. The Buccaneers
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: of Canada.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Back in our radio days, before we really were dying
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: for football to get here as fast as we could,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: we'd watch occasional Canadian Football League games, and I adopted
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the Ottawa Red Blacks.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: They're 0-12 this year.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: They've lost 18 straight games. Only three other teams has
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: ever started 0-12. They've never had a team go defeated
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: without winning a game. Saskatchewan, Hamilton, and Shreveport started 0-12.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And you say Shreveport in Canada? Wait a minute.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: There was one year in 1994 that we had American
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: franchises in the Canadian Football League. Birmingham had the Barracudas.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Of course, that's stunning. Baltimore had the Stallions, I believe,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: or the Stampede.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I forget.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I think it was the Stallions. No, Calgary's the Stampede. Yeah,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: it was the Stallions. Shreveport, I forget what they were,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and there was one other one, I think.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was just those three. I think they do
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the coaches show from Spear Grill in Shreveport. I bet
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: they did.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But Shreveport, 1994, they started 0-12. They eventually won a game.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But the Canadian Football League actually had American franchises for
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: one season, and it was a horrific disaster. The Shreveport Pirates.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: We dog out Oregon and USC and Washington being in
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Yeah. Stanford and the ACC.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Shreveport was 8-28 in 36 games, by the way.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Not good. They played how many?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: 36, it says. So they hung around more than one year.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It says 94-95.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they went two years. Yeah. We just went
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: one year here in Birmingham. The Barracudas did. Yeah. Jerry Denard?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: No, he was the fire coach.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: He was the fire coach. I forget who the coach was.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, it was the old Houston Oilers coach.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Jack Pardee? Yeah, Jack Pardee.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. All right, when we come back, back
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to college football, not just LSU and Ole Miss, a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: handful of big games coming up this weekend. One of
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: them is in Auburn, Alabama, and everyone is talking about
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Buster Faulkner. You heard Aaron Murray in the first hour
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: talking about his offense. Aaron Filo is the quarterback that's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: trying to get Florida to 3-0, You'll hear from him
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: when we come back on Hard Rock Bets next round
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: here on Sport and State. All right, we move to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: our next segment here on the next round presented by
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bets in Sport and State. And I'll tell you,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I don't want to laugh at anybody, okay? That's what
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: we do on this show.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: No, I really don't like to do this. Don't laugh
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: at Holly Roe.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want to laugh at a fan base, especially
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a fan base that's coming to.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Tuscaloosa this weekend. Uh-oh.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: But I saw some folks debating at Florida State when
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Mike Norvell is gone, and this was a podcast, the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: coach that they want to be the next coach at
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Florida State. And the name they said, I was like,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you're insane. There's no way he would take the job.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And their number one target, I forget what podcast. I'd
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: love to give your name here, but I forget who
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it was. I was watching so much stuff last night.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: But the guy they want is Rhett Lashley of SMU.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: And I laughed out loud. I was like, first of all,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you are in the same conference.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And you know what SMU has that Florida State doesn't have?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Money. Money. Perception.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to leave. I mean, if
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: he was leaving to go to an SEC or a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Big Ten school, I'd be like, okay, he's getting into
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a major conference that's going to get multiple bids and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you know it's going to be around forever and ever.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But to go from one ACC school to another that's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: going to have less money, more fans, but less money,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I There's no way.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Florida State hasn't been to a 12-team playoff. Rhett has. Yep.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And they're in the mix again. Big game this weekend
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: in Louisville. I agree with you. It's kind of amazing
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to say, though, if you go back 10 years ago,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: nobody would leave SMU to take the Florida State job.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: But I don't think you would because SMU is proud.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: They're going to pay him whatever. to match, and why
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: would you leave in that situation? Rhett Lashley's an Arkansas guy.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think he'd leave SMU for the Arkansas job.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: He's got a better job.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Now, if Arkansas really dove in with resources, maybe. If
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the guy from Walmart and Tyson's and all those other
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: businesses up there walked in and said, hey, open check.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I never know about going back home. You know, I mean,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: he could have grown up the biggest Arkansas fan in
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the world, his dream job, and He really believes that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: he can get it back to Bobby Petrino-like days. Who knows?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: But in this day and age, Florida State and SMU,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I know history.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I know history. But SMU is a better program than
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Florida State. I mean, you see SMU play anybody right now.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: They could beat anybody. Florida State is a W. It's
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: just resources, man. Just resources.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Here's the one thing that I don't know how it
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: factors in, Jim, for college football coaches. And I think
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: if we're being honest, it would probably factor in for us,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the three of us. if we're being honest about it,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: do you think college football coaches ever are like, you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I'd like to coach in a stadium that holds 100,000 people?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: That's my home state.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I was watching a video on our fourth screen over here,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and Lane Kiffin was walking out. Maybe it was the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: third screen. Lane Kiffin was walking out of the tunnel when.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: He was at Ole Miss.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And, you know, you've got that quirky little upper deck
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that's sort of a small upper deck. 60,000 people. Nice stadium,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: 60,000 people.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: 64,000 people.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yep. And then you see him, same video, walking out
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: as the LSU coach for the Clemson game, and there's
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: 100,000 people, and you can't see the sky.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I think things change the older you get. I don't
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: know about you guys, but, like, I want to downsize. Like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: his stadium is small, but it's super nice. Like, I'd
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like me a one-level ranch. That's right, yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: But to me, to your what you're thinking of, too,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to me, though, it's the money and not the money
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I'm being paid. I'm going to get paid either place.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: To me, it's the money I have at my disposal
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to where I can build.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: A roster. We'll talk roster stuff in a second. Do
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you want to buy somebody a gold Trans Am? You're
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: able to do it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: You can do it now, legally. The Athletic has done
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a fabulous study. Several of their writers, including Sam Kahn
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and Stuart Mandel and David Obin, have done this with
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: The Athletic and a bunch of other writers there. It's
• 30:00
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  Speaker 3: You know what just happened? I just did that big
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: thing about SMU and Florida State. And I'm the politician
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: that has walked out and promised you this, this, and this.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: And I've walked back off the stage and my aide
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: has said, we can't do any of that stuff. We
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: can't do that. We can't do any of that stuff.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: From the athletic, SMU's roster this year between $ 21 and
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: $ 23 million. Florida State's roster this year between $ 23 and
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: $ 30 million.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you believe those numbers. I do.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: This is the athletic they have done. It's a year-long study.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: And that's LSU has a less.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: SMU. SMU.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I thought you said LSU. SMU 21 to 23.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Florida State is 23 to 30.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: So Rhett Lashley is just that much better of a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: coach than Mike Norvell. He's built a cheaper roster. I mean,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I believe that, don't you? That Rhett Lashley is a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: better coach.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Than Mike Norvell? Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The most expensive roster this year, according to The Athletic,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: is Ohio State. The roster is between $ 49 and $ 54
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: million that they've been able to document.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I heard yesterday LSU's was $ 55 million. Yep.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: LSU's, according to them, is between $ 47 and $ 50 million.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: That I believe. Lane was spending like a wild man.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: That's fourth.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oregon is right behind Ohio State, 48 to 54.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: LSU is 45 to 55. So....
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: On the higher range, they're all right there around Ohio State.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Alabama and Auburn? Get to them.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M and Miami are next. Miami's 44
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to 50 million. A & M, 45 to 50 million.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So that's your $ 50 million crew there. Notre Dame, 41
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to 48 million. Then you get Ole Miss and Tennessee.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Then on the same line, you get Alabama, 38 to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: 42 million. Texas Tech, 38 to 42 million. I saw
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: this story, and that was one thing that jumped out
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: at me, is that the Alabama logo and the Texas
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Tech logo are right next to one another because we
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: make a big deal about how much Cody Campbell's willing
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to spend for his roster. And he's not outspending a
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: school like Alabama, which just shows you, first of all,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it shows you the narrative of Alabama's a broke program
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: probably is not true, and we've never said it was here. Now,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the only thing I've said about Alabama is I don't
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: think they're going to be able to spend with Texas
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and Texas A & M. But I don't think Alabama's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: alone in that boat. I think Georgia's in that boat
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: with them.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I think Auburn. I think Tennessee.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of good SEC. Oklahoma, a lot
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of good SEC programs are in that boat. Get to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Georgia here in just a second because that's sort of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the team we think has the best chance of winning
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a national championship.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Out of the SEC, I would say. Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Right behind Alabama and Texas Tech are three Big Ten
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: schools because already I've only given you two Big Ten schools.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: That's USC, Michigan, and Indiana. USC, 37 to 40 million.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: which is good money. I mean, it seems like they
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: could be able or should be able to spend more.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe they don't want to. Michigan is $ 36 to $ 40 million.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And here's Indiana, $ 36 to $ 40 million. So three big 10.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Right behind them, Florida is $ 31 to $ 41 million. They
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: didn't get as many documented papers. That's the biggest window.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: That's a $ 10 million window that they put for Florida.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So they didn't get as much documentation on Florida as
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: they have the others. And they use some of the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: clearinghouse numbers for this as well. South Carolina, Georgia, Auburn,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and Nebraska is next. You ask about Auburn, they're $ 31
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: million to $ 35 million. So, I mean, that's not far
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: off from where everyone else is in the SEC, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: they sort of were playing catch-up in the spending, and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: they got some discounts with a lot of South Florida players.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, the difference in $ 31 or $ 35 million is
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: a $ 4 million quarterback. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're right.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: That's a big difference. That is a big difference.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: If you just go by the top end, Auburn is–
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: $ 7 million behind Alabama on this roster. I don't know
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: if you can do this because I know what you're
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: looking at there.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I've got every icon. You just touch on it and
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: it pops up. No, no, no, no, no.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I was just going to ask the national championship line,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: like where is the line dollar-wise where you're like, okay,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: none of these schools really have a legitimate shot? Well,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I'll just read from top to bottom.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: You stop.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: All right, let's stop it when we think we get
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: to a team that does have a shot. Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, LSU, Miami,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M, Notre Dame, Ole Miss, Tennessee. Alabama,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, USC.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Michigan, Indiana, Florida. I mean, Texas Tech doesn't have a shot.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: But you've still got something to do with Indiana.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think Tennessee has a shot. Okay.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Now, after that, you tell me how many of these
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: still have a chance to win a national championship. South Carolina, Auburn, Georgia, Nebraska,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Penn State, Clemson, Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Missouri, Florida State, Virginia Tech,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Mississippi State, UCLA, Vandy, Kentucky, Georgia Tech.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Where's Oklahoma? NC State, Louisville, by the way. Louisville, yeah. Louisville,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: 22 to 25.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Louisville's a broke program. What's Oklahoma? Oklahoma is right behind Auburn,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: just ahead of Clemson, 28 to 34 million.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Jim Nagy got a lot of love, friend of ours
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl, for that roster he's built. I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: still maintain they're paying their quarterback too.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Much, but. Or should be paying a different one more. Yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Should be paying a different one more. Yeah. Which gets
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: me to this before we take our next break. You
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: brought up Jesse Legree at Oregon State. Oregon State, the receiver, yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And Camario Taylor we talked about. Sam Kahn also at
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the Athletic Rights. Hot names for the portal already. Can
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you imagine what Camario Taylor's portal number is going to
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: be or what Mississippi State's going to have to pay
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to keep him? Because how many schools– We'll come after
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Kamario Taylor this year.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to know a lot about him this week.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I've got a sneaky feeling that South Carolina is going
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: to win that game just because they've kind of dominated
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: the series. There's so much pressure on him now because really,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: and I know Brooks Austin said this yesterday, people aren't
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: talking about him. Something's wrong. People really haven't been talking
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: about Kamario Taylor. I'm talking about nationally. With the last
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: two weeks. Yes, and now there's a huge expectation. I
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: think everybody's going to be tuning into that game. Now,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: if he goes up there and carves that defense up
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: and they win. On the road in that environment. Just
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: completely watch out. But to your point, like if he
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: has that type of year, I don't know, $ 10 million?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Do you still have the numbers open? I do, yes.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: What is Mississippi State's? Mississippi State, surprisingly, ahead of Virginia Tech,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Florida State, Vandy, Kentucky, Georgia State. Georgia Tech, NC State, Louisville, TCU, Washington,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: they are 25 to 30 million. That's a respectable number. No,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: 30 million at State is really good. I would have
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to guess 5 million of that right now is going
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to Kamario Taylor, if not more. What we don't know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: did he sign a long-term deal? He's pretty much a
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Starkville kid. I mean, I don't think he gets listed
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: as from Starkville, but I think he grew up right
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: outside of Starkville, if I'm not mistaken.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I think the– is it Cincinnati, though, the area code
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: that he wears? Is it?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: But he's from– Maybe that's where his agent is.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: While you're looking that up, I will tell you the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: cheapest roster or the most inexpensive roster in the SEC
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: is Arkansas, but not by a ton, 22 to 25 million.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: They're playing like it.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Anything they're paying, they're overpaying. Yeah.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Macon, Mississippi, Knoxville County. So it's not far from.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Starkville.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: So he's a Mississippi kid. Now, that doesn't mean anything
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: because you told me what state's NIL is or what
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: their roster is. Miami is where you look because that's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: who so far has said, if we need quarterback. And
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: they're one and done every year. That's right. And if
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: we need quarterback, we'll pay premium for them. They did
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it with Mensa and it is working out. They did
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it with Carson Beck.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: It worked out. They did it with Kim Ward. It
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: worked out.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: And, I mean, that's where I would look is because
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Mensah's going to be going to the NFL, right? I mean,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: there's nothing that's going to keep Mensah at Miami. He'll
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: be going to the NFL. That's who Mississippi State will
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: probably have to fend off if he didn't sign a
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: long-term deal. And, boy, I hope for State he did.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: because he'll either leave or they'll have to pay premium
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: to keep him, because he will be the hottest name
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: out there. There are some athletic directors who are probably
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: at a G6 school, and I'm going to say this number,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and you're going to be like, I don't even know
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: if I can survive on this number. The worst power
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: for roster in college football as far as payments, Rutgers,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Boston College, $ 8 million to $ 13 million. Yeah.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Miami.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: For instance, there is a player probably playing in college
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: football that makes more. I was about to say Miami
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: in that conference has a quarterback that's making probably $ 8 million.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: What? I mean, what?
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I think that was the rumor on Mensa, right? It
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: was 6 to 8. So if they're on the bottom
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: end of their expectation here is $ 8 million and one
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: player in their league is making more money than their roster.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Boston College is the Tampa Bay Rays of power college football.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: And you're in the division with the Yankees and the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Red Sox. Sometimes you can win, though. It's happening right
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: now in Tampa. I bet Boston College doesn't win the ACC.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I bet they don't either.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Just thought that was a– go read the story and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: all the numbers. The Athletic put that together. Can't imagine
• 40:30
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• 40:34
  Speaker 2: There with them.
• 40:35
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• 40:45
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• 40:52
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• 40:55
  Speaker 1: we'll look at some TV ratings from this past weekend.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Pretty big night for Ohio State, Texas. I only missed
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: it by about 7 million. That's when we come back
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: on the next round, presented by Sporting State and Hard
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Rock Bets. I'll admit, I expect too much out of
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: things sometimes.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I expect too much out of TV ratings.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I thought Ohio State and Texas would get a massive number.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: It apparently did. The most watched regular season primetime game
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: since 2012. The most watched game on ABC slash ESPN
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: since 2016 when Ohio State and Michigan got to the number.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: But 14 million viewers, nothing to sneeze at, watched Ohio State, Texas.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And that's a....
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: The best regular season primetime game on any network since 2012.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You know where the bigger audience was? Was that game
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: at the Big Noon Kick last year, which Fox still
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: wishes they had those types of games.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: 18 million, right?
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, had 18 million last year. And I saw somebody
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: do this. They took, because Oklahoma-Michigan was the Big Noon
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Kick this week, so they took, and it was in
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: primetime last year, if you remember, so these two games
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: just basically flipped because of Fox and ESPN, ABC. So
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: they took both numbers combined, and Fox big noon kick
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: had the bigger number for their big noon kick of
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Ohio State versus Texas and Oklahoma versus Michigan than the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: primetime did. So it still shows people will watch the
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: biggest game no matter where it is. It's why when
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, God, I wish Fox would give up the
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: big noon. Well, those numbers tell you. Well, actually what
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: it's showing is that they'll watch the biggest game better
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: at 11 o'clock than they will at primetime. That number
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: will tell you they will.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Is there any chance LSU Ole Miss is a bigger number? Because,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we love drama and gossip. And I think
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: for even your cat, this is kind of almost like
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl moment where you have not even casual
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: football fans, people that are just tuning into the Super
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Bowl because it's such a spectacle.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to need to be a really good
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: game for one thing.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, but.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: But to LT's point, I think people will watch to
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: see if things are thrown onto the field, if smoke
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: bombs are lit off.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: What Lane's going to say pre-imposed. A security threat.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Like, I will tell you, Ohio State, Texas, one thing
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that hurt that number, I literally had two people at
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: church Sunday morning tell me they went to bed at halftime.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, turned that game off.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Turned it off and went to bed thinking the game
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: was over or maybe early third quarter thinking the game
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: was over.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Let me see the numbers one more time there. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: always wait until you pull them down to see them.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: We'll reference them back.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Alabama, Kentucky, right there, the number three slot. Missouri, Kansas
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: from Friday night, high at number four there.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Arizona, BYU.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: If I'm the big conferences, if I'm the SEC and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten, and I'm the TV partners, I'm looking
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: at the conferences and saying, hey, you know, we're in
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: week two, and we've got a Big 12 matchup, Arizona, BYU,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that could be fifth in the ratings. We've got to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: do better in our scheduling. Because the Big Ten schedule
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: this weekend is a joke of a schedule coming up.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Here in week three. Have you seen the entirety of it? Yes.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: It's awful.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Rice and Notre Dame is 10th. We've got to do
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: a better job of scheduling of these big conferences, if
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I'm Fox or ABC, ESPN there, just to have better games.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: The Big Ten in its totality this weekend is a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: joke of a schedule, is it not?
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, your best games are, you know, Maryland
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: at West Virginia– What's another one I could throw?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, USC at Rutgers? Real quick, Maryland-Virginia Tech.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Maryland-Virginia Tech. It's a disaster of a schedule.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, when Fox Big Noon is showing Ohio State,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't get through without laughing at Ohio State,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Kent State.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kent State at Ohio State, and then the– 230
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: CBS game, equally as sucky.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: It's USC at Rutgers. Yeah. Well, I mean, just think
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: about these point spreads. So Friday night, Oregon's 58-and-a-half. Ohio
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: State is 52-and-a-half. Penn State is 39-and-a-half. Minnesota is 24-and-a-half.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin is 24-and-a-half. I mean, we're going bottom of the barrel. Illinois,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: 41-and-a-half point favorite. Michigan, 35-and-a-half point favorite. Indiana... 44.5 point favorite. Iowa,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: 41.5 point favorites. And what's crazy is... Nebraska, 25.5. I mean,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: there's no games.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Tony Petitti, the Big Ten commissioner, is almost using their...
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: This week is almost... They're trying to use this schedule
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to hold the SEC hostage when it comes to the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: college football playoff expansion. Remember what they said a few
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: weeks ago? They said, hey, if If the SEC signs
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: off on 24 teams, we'll make our team play a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: power four out-of-conference game. We'll make them play it like
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the SEC does. We'll go nine conference games, and we'll
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: guarantee that you have to play another power league. He
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: did say that. And today, by the way, on three
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: reports that Notre Dame and Nebraska have announced a home-and-home,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: so maybe that backs that up. It's 2032 and 2033
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: in October in the middle of the season.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, maybe that backs that up. But if
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, if I'm Greg Sankey, I'm like, you're
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: showing me this schedule, and this is the gun to
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: my head? This is more embarrassing for you than it
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: is a threat to me. Well, and one thing on
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that Notre Dame, and this could help this, the one
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: thing on the Notre Dame-Nebraska thing is it is a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: midseason game. If the Big Ten was willing to come
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: off the once, you know, we play the first three
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: weeks out of conference, and then we only play conference
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: games after that, They're going to have to come off
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it for that because Notre Dame-Nebraska is an October game.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: USC and Notre Dame will.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Eventually probably move back to at least an October-November schedule eventually.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: That would help this because you could get some conference
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: games in. For instance, the SEC's got a pretty good
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: middle-of-the-day window name-wise. Now, these games may not end up
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: being good, but Florida State at Alabama, when that game
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: was scheduled, that looks like a pretty good game.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Probably not going to be. State and South Carolina is
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a sneaky good game. We've talked a lot about it today.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't look like a good game, and I
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: think now people are excited about that game.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Kentucky at Texas A & M? I mean, that's not
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: going to win any TV ratings, but that's got a
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: chance to be a good game.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Kentucky's trending in a good place. Well, that would be
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: the best game in the Big Ten this week.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: That's right, and you've got three of those just in
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: the middle window for the Southeastern Conference.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even your Big Ten on Big Ten,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Purdue is a 14.5-point dog to UCLA, and Rutgers are
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: a 23.5-point dog to....
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Main Fox prime time, Colorado at Northwestern. That's one of
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: your better games of the day in the Big Ten.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Northwestern. I mean, that's the skinniest number, Northwestern four
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: and a half. Isn't that crazy? Well, I guess Virginia
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Tech is actually a three-point favorite.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: By the way, we have seen a three-touchdown-plus favorite went
• 48:00
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• 48:00
  Speaker 2: First two weeks. You just said USC at Rutgers. Does
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: that scare you at all, knowing that? No. Okay. No,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: not the way Rutgers is playing right now. Not this
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Rutgers team.
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• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Longest win streak in America going into week three in
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: college football is still Indiana at 18. Notre Dame is
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: next with 12. Utah is next with eight. Pretty interesting.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Indiana is going to be a while before they'll be challenged, right?
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. It will be until they play Ohio State.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: So how high could this Indiana win streak go? It
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: could go over 700 days, and at that point, 22?
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Pretty impressive there. Well, you know, we talked about this.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I think you were out the day we talked about
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: this because we did.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: First loss. Yeah, we did first loss.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: No, no, this is, I think, when we were doing
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: trap games. We were doing trap games for each team.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And I laugh at that because one of the ones
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: you and I both brought up was New Mexico at
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma this weekend because we're like, look where it falls
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: for Oklahoma.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It's between a trip to Michigan and a trip to Georgia.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: And New Mexico's a sneaky good group six team. Now
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: they've lost their starting quarterback. Now that we get to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: that game, it doesn't look daunting at all.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, but Jason Eck is one of these like
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: up and coming coaches. You know, the last time they
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: actually beat a ranked team, you know who it was?
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: The last time New Mexico beat a ranked team?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, I couldn't tell you. 2024 against Washington State. Guess
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: who the quarterback and offensive coordinator combination were? Get out
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: of town. It was our buckle of a tear. Shut up.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: How about that stat?
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Wow. They got tape on it. They do. And it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: too many points this week. I'm telling you. What's the
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: spread on this one? Right now, I have got Oklahoma
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: as a 22.5 point favorite. I think they went by
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: 14 to 17. I think it's the Lobos making it interesting.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. um what I was when we did that I
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: brought up the fact that and I and I compared
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: it to Miami who I think Arizona beat them randomly
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: on their long win streak Alabama their long win streak
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: was ended by a bad LSU team back before that
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: in the 80s a bad Mississippi State team it's always
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it's often the ones you don't see coming and I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: made a case for Nebraska the week before Ohio State
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: now I don't know what that point spread is going
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: to be I've watched Nebraska they don't look We love
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: the guy, but they don't look great.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Still unbeaten right now, though, right? You know, one of
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: the things that I brought up, you know, like Mississippi State,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: I've got this feeling that Mississippi State could beat Alabama
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: this year because that state game is right before that gauntlet. Now,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: if Kamario Taylor goes up to Columbia and completely shreds
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: them this week, I mean, that's going to be a
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: game that Kane Womack's going to be like, holy shit,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: this thing has changed a lot. So I don't think
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: they're going to sneak up on them.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: We don't have a kick time for that yet, but
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you could almost see if both Alabama and Mississippi State
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: win this week.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: That could be.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I could tell you where it's reserved right now. That
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: could be an 11 o'clock game.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my buddy Brad, who goes to a lot of games,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: he thought it was going to be at 11 a.m.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: That is in the early window, so it's almost certain
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to be 11 a.m.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: As good as state has started, yeah. When they do
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: that early window, it can only be the 11 a.m.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: or that first SEC Network. 11.45. Which is 11.45. So
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: it's not early and mid-afternoon? It's 11 to 12 Central Time.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how you guys feel about it.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I kind of have a feeling South Carolina is going
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: to win this game.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: It's a tough one, man.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like we have– I mean, everybody's– Normally when
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: you anoint a guy like this this early, it ends
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: up going bad for him in his next game.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I hate about Camargo. We always say that
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: about Cam, though. I'll tell you in our next segment.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I may have already placed a bet on that. I'll
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: check in the commercial and let you know.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't remember. I did it last night.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I did it last night somewhere midway through a bottle
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: of wine. It's always the best time to place some bets.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: That's midway through a bottle of wine?
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Kurt Warner tells you it's not. Kurt Warner would
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: tell you it is not. Kurt's very serious about Kurt. Yeah,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: he would tell you it is not. Don't chase your losses.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Don't chase your losses.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that's just good advice right there. It's about only
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: what you can afford to lose. Go F yourself. That's
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: what the gambler that's losing right there is saying.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: By the way, all the leagues this week, all the
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: professional leagues and all their players' unions, and I hope
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the colleges jump in on this. I hope they do
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: come up with some strong laws here. They've all come together.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Threatening safety of the athletes or family because of sports wagering.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: They're trying to push to get severe laws and punishment
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: against people who Tweet, text, call, or threaten athletes over
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: sports gambling costs.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: It is the dumbest thing. I mean, it is. Where's
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the fine line? Where's the threat and just the criticism?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: That's where you get into trouble. If it's bodily harm
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and that kind of thing, death threats and stuff.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Trust me, the Oklahoma hate that I've gotten this week
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: isn't based on the fact that they lost. It's based
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: on the fact that everybody lost their money on Oklahoma.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: That is the next round here on Sporting State.