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Don Granato talks NHL coaching carousel: the Rangers soap opera, Golden Globe noms and (of course) Demers’ short-lived rap career. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it's like the equivalent of our
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  Speaker 1: first episode of NHL Unscripted.
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  Speaker 2: Review and tell your friends. JD just just a beast
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  Speaker 2: kid Mirrow. I know that's your thought.
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  Speaker 1: You know, having done podcasts for years, people say to me,
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  Speaker 2: Meaning that's a big name.
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  Speaker 1: The kid Mary loves Hockey was funny, he was entertaining
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  Speaker 2: You go, hey, Demurs and Brook, these guys are pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: This week.
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  Speaker 1: We're keeping that momentum going, Don Grenado, are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: We're leading into the hockey zeitgeist of the hockey family today.
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  Speaker 3: The Don Juan himself coming in talking all things coaches
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  Speaker 3: right now, so it's gonna be nice to pick his
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  Speaker 3: brain a little bit in terms of all these this
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  Speaker 3: coaching carousel in the NHL, and guys are just getting
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even want to say it, but
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  Speaker 3: you're just you got the red dot on your forehead
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  Speaker 3: as soon as you become an NHL coach nowadays. And
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  Speaker 3: I guess you can credit that to paying these young
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  Speaker 3: guys so much money that if you're not developing the
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  Speaker 3: right way or they're not kind of playing up to
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  Speaker 3: their standards, you're the first one out the door. So
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how it's I want to ask them a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, like how it's affecting their mindset as a
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  Speaker 3: coach coming in the NHL, because honestly, like you have
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  Speaker 3: like ten games and then you're out the door. Look
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  Speaker 3: at look at your banister, poor guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely true. It's It's the only thing I
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  Speaker 2: will say is though, but then if you have success.
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  Speaker 1: I feel the longevity of coaches works, meaning Monty gets
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  Speaker 1: fired by boss and the Five Days Letter's twenty five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a very tough job.
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  Speaker 1: But once you get a certain level of reputation, excellence,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera, you can thrive.
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  Speaker 2: But we're gonna talk to Don in just a second.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to mention this episode is being recorded
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  Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon before the Thursday games have been played, so
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  Speaker 1: everything sounds dated.
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  Speaker 2: Just just let us know. Jady and I both on the road.
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  Speaker 1: I just came back from Dallas and the Winter meetings
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  Speaker 1: there speaking at baseball course want Soto Science. This is
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  Speaker 1: a gigantic six hundred and sixty five million dollars deal
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  Speaker 1: for fifty years.
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  Speaker 3: That was Sunday night, Buddy. My kid, My kid is
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  Speaker 3: just learning how to be a dh Whenever I decide
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  Speaker 3: to jump down that I'm just teaching. Hey, just learn
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  Speaker 3: how to hit the ball three times.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Come up and play at all three times. You're gonna
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  Speaker 3: make seven hundred million dollars. I mean, it's absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe. And for him, I mean, there's now
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  Speaker 3: is there loyalty in baseball? Like if you if you
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  Speaker 3: talk to some guy in the NHL, Like there's some
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  Speaker 3: guys that would not even consider signing, Like if you're
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  Speaker 3: in Montreal, you don't sign in Boston. And even though
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  Speaker 3: it does happen on occasion, like if there is that rivalry,
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  Speaker 3: it's so tough. So I'm like, but I guess you know,
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  Speaker 3: Wan just no, it does not care. And I guess
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  Speaker 3: he liked his living in New York. So he's just
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  Speaker 3: gonna go right across the subway and enjoy his time there,
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  Speaker 3: exactly as the Mets.
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  Speaker 2: Had a great year. The Yankees know he's Wan gone
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  Speaker 2: for New York Mets.
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  Speaker 3: Well done, there you go. Now see that's better. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: a little too robotic to start. Now we're getting you
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  Speaker 3: loose here, hey.
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  Speaker 1: Top line topics. Okay, we had our introduction. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: actually gonna get into topics of the week. The New
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  Speaker 1: York Rangers, Jay, what what?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 2: Mass? This is?
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  Speaker 1: You and I both live in the New Jersey area.
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  Speaker 1: That's well said and succinct. I was with the grim
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  Speaker 1: Reaper Stu Grimson last Friday on an.
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  Speaker 3: HL network talking about not getting a word and ye
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  Speaker 3: I love.
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  Speaker 2: Grimmer, I love, but not gonna He's not gonna get cheated.
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  Speaker 1: They right, as an attorney. He's got a lot to say. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he's tough, so you can whatever you want. It's fine, ooh,
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  Speaker 1: can wrap them. It's okay. Yeah, but that was trueball
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  Speaker 1: watch day and we're waiting for the news to come
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  Speaker 1: down eventually. All right, Jacob Truba, trader of the Ducks,
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  Speaker 1: want to Stew's former teams. You know what this is like,
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  Speaker 1: it's a former team, you're partial to them, But I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel to.
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  Speaker 2: Be Jacob Truba?
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  Speaker 1: This this guy is having a tough season and he
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  Speaker 1: get sent to Anaheim where you're part of a rebuilding.
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  Speaker 2: You're not gonna be contending. But this feels like the
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  Speaker 2: first domino for the Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: Right well, Trader captain and they have a history now
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  Speaker 1: by the way of trading captains, the last captain to
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  Speaker 1: leave like on his own unceremoniously was Yarmir Yager. Otherwise
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  Speaker 1: it's that the last four captains where he's like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: we're done with a captaincy is It is.
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  Speaker 2: Like a it's a scarlet letter with the Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: But point is this they signed to stir from the
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  Speaker 1: big deal eleven point five million aa B eight years
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  Speaker 1: ninety two, people are still pissed about Chris Cryder and Zabnazade.
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  Speaker 1: How did the Rangers go from President's Trophy winners to
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  Speaker 1: just an absolute soap opera?
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  Speaker 3: Well, to start with it, it's it's funny because people
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  Speaker 3: go people fansy it up in arms with like a
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  Speaker 3: no trade cause, and I'm like, if a team wants
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  Speaker 3: to get rid of you, they will find a way
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  Speaker 3: to make it so goddamn uncomfortable that you're gonna want
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  Speaker 3: to leave. I was a perfect example. It happened with
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  Speaker 3: me my year in Florida when they traded me and
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  Speaker 3: you know water under the Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I saw Dale tallon in Florida when I was doing
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  Speaker 3: some radio for the Sharks and we talked about it,
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  Speaker 3: and I literally laughed because he shook my hand and said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: clean slate, Like you denied a couple of trades, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, clean slate. And then he shipped
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  Speaker 3: me to Arizona the next day. So so it's so
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  Speaker 3: funny because people were like, oh, it's got a no trade,
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  Speaker 3: Like what a bad deal, And like, if a team
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  Speaker 3: truly wants to get rid of you, they will get
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  Speaker 3: rid of you because they will find a way. They'll
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  Speaker 3: make it so gosh darn uncomfortable. You're just gonna be like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: get me, send me anywhere but here. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's tough because Truba denies the trade, and that kind
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  Speaker 3: of he denies the trade. Early in the summer, there
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  Speaker 3: was a mistake by management because management leaked it. They
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  Speaker 3: didn't have their house in order it gets out to
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  Speaker 3: the public. And whether that was that was on purpose
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  Speaker 3: or not, what happens is now you clip Truba's wings
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  Speaker 3: because now Trooper is the captain. He's got to go
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  Speaker 3: to the room and be like, hey, boys, like let's
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  Speaker 3: pick it up here, and guys are like, they don't
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  Speaker 3: even want you here. So it's always in the back
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  Speaker 3: of guy's heads. So it always right away you start
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  Speaker 3: with a little bit of dissension, and it's never a
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  Speaker 3: good thing. Now I think Truba finally recognized when just
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  Speaker 3: the wheels started to come off. But it's also I
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  Speaker 3: always say, like part of the blames on management, but
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  Speaker 3: then coaching staff as well, because for some reason, I
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  Speaker 3: love Peter Laviolette is a great coach. If he gets fired,
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  Speaker 3: he's going to find another job. And we talked about
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  Speaker 3: the coaching carousel, but it seems like he's very raw raw.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard he has fantastic speeches, but sometimes it only
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  Speaker 3: lasts a certain amount of time and then it just
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  Speaker 3: it starts falling on deaf years. So I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they've completely gotten out of their structure. Nobody's playing the
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  Speaker 3: right way. It's so topsy turvy. Everybody, I think, thought
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  Speaker 3: that the True Betrayed would right the ship. But you
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  Speaker 3: can't expect to go lose the way you did in
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs the last year to the Florida Panthers, not
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  Speaker 3: do anything, not piss a drop in terms of bringing
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  Speaker 3: in people from other teams. The only move they did
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  Speaker 3: was get rid of Barkley Goudreau, which was kind of
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  Speaker 3: They did that poorly as well, and then expect a
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  Speaker 3: different result because the way they lost against Florida was
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  Speaker 3: getting out gritted and outworks. You need to address that
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  Speaker 3: if you wanted to get to the next level, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's bringing in one or two guys, and I just
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  Speaker 3: think it's there's more coming. I think the True Betrayed
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  Speaker 3: opens up the door. I think there needs to be
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  Speaker 3: a couple more moves. They need to go get somebody
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  Speaker 3: on the back end big time, because I think that
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  Speaker 3: back end is as much as those guys are NHL players,
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  Speaker 3: they're not, you know, they need something on the top
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  Speaker 3: four of their big time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I thought to your point about bringing in
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  Speaker 1: new personnel and new names.
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  Speaker 2: I like a good rumor as much as anybody.
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  Speaker 1: But when I heard the potentially Brady Kuchuk, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Like, do you think the Auto
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  Speaker 1: Center is the one great thing they have going for
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  Speaker 1: themselves right now?
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  Speaker 2: Is Brady Kidchuk? This guy's awesome face to Francis et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to say They're like, hey, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna give up if you punt on Brady Kitchuk.
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  Speaker 2: It was so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm again I'm not calling up Brooks with the
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  Speaker 1: New York Post, that's his sources that Bradykchuk talks were happening.
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  Speaker 1: But again, Bruce Garrett, who covers the sentence as you
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  Speaker 1: and I know, is his Lockedowin's like, no no chance
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  Speaker 1: sends over. Michael Amlauer alleged the Rangers engage in quote
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  Speaker 1: soft tampering.
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  Speaker 2: That's one rumor. Gee, I didn't Maybe maybe there was
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  Speaker 2: a conversation happened.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Brady Kchuck ain't getting dealt in the Center's
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  Speaker 1: the Rangers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think Larry Brooks was a slow day
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  Speaker 3: at the office and he's trying to get a little
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  Speaker 3: juice going, you know, Brooksy, he couldn't just keep you know,
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  Speaker 3: crapping on the Rangers, so he had to just bring
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  Speaker 3: somebody else in. But honestly, I don't know, I've heard
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  Speaker 3: some weird stuff from that locker room. And again, a
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  Speaker 3: guy like Brady who I'm sure we interviewed him for
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  Speaker 3: Amazon Coast to Coast and he wants to win so bad.
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  Speaker 3: You can see it. He wants to compete with his brother.
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  Speaker 3: So if he doesn't see that the franchise is going
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  Speaker 3: in the right direction, I wouldn't put it past him
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  Speaker 3: to be like, hey, like not necessarily coming from the team.
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  Speaker 3: I think the team wants to keep him. But maybe
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  Speaker 3: Brady's like, listen, like this is not right for me,
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  Speaker 3: and you gotta people got to recognize like his father,
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  Speaker 3: Keith Kachuk and his brother, they understand being in the
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  Speaker 3: right culture and the right franchise, and they might be
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  Speaker 3: in his ear as well, Like there's so many. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a very much. Where there's smoke, there's fire, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think there could be something and it might not
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  Speaker 3: be from the Ottawa side, it could be from the
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  Speaker 3: the Brady Kuchuk side. And I'm not trying to pour
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  Speaker 3: gas on this fire. Well I kind of am, because
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  Speaker 3: we're you know, we're we're trying to get clicks. Here's smoke,
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  Speaker 3: the fire. That's where the medium bucks are is with clicks.
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  Speaker 3: So we're trying to get clicks.
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  Speaker 2: But to your point, it's not out a question. There
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  Speaker 2: has been not a question.
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  Speaker 1: There has been president of a kachuk who was unhappy
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  Speaker 1: with the way things were going in a Canadian city
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  Speaker 1: and then got dealt.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen, listen, we've seen big trades, especially that one
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  Speaker 3: that was the fleecing done by the Florida Panthers of
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  Speaker 3: the Calgary Flames. Oh my goodness, that is a that
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  Speaker 3: is a little spank on the tushy between organizations, because
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  Speaker 3: that is like your child, Chad's child, child rearing at
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  Speaker 3: its best. They destroyed Calgary with that trade. And and
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  Speaker 3: you know, listen, Huberto's I found his game, I think.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, that I mean getting Matthew Chuck and Sam Bennett.
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  Speaker 3: You can't ask for a better trade.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, Let's go to another Canadian city
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday Night. Goal through the thatcher. Demko makes his
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  Speaker 1: first Star of the season for the Canucks and his
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  Speaker 1: first appearance is April eighteenth. We all know Demko is
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  Speaker 1: a critical part of this team. Little rusty because a
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  Speaker 1: four goals of twenty five shots in an overtime loss
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  Speaker 1: of Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 2: JT.
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  Speaker 1: Miller has been out at least Patterson underwhelming. I'm an idiot,
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  Speaker 1: Jay I sat at the start of the year. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, Canucks can make it on the run, why
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  Speaker 1: not if Demko's healthy. Instead, they've been underwhelming. The disappointment
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  Speaker 1: to me, how do you fix this team?
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I think that you know they had a lot.
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  Speaker 3: What happened last year with them is there. Everything bounced
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  Speaker 3: their way, and that's what can happen in NHL season.
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  Speaker 3: They got great goal attending, They got guys. You know
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  Speaker 3: when Demco was out at Archer, she locks come in
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  Speaker 3: and he was like incredible, came out of nowhere. He
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  Speaker 3: made He made the last save against me in my
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: professional career in the miners. It was a great a
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  Speaker 3: scoring chance. That's son of a Beechers.
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  Speaker 2: A third stringle the pride of Latvia. Yeah, who is it?
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  Speaker 2: One of the great surprise stories that conocks is. Also,
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  Speaker 2: I was stoned you in your final.
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  Speaker 3: Stone me to tie it up in the last playoff
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  Speaker 3: game and they ended up eliminating us crazy a little
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  Speaker 3: post to post and I thought I had him a
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  Speaker 3: low blocker and I did not. Clearly I did not,
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  Speaker 3: because I'm here right now with fake teeth and and
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: a podcast with my heart, so uh no. But everything
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: went their way, and we kind of sat it on
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  Speaker 3: the network like they haven't really faced any adversity. They
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: haven't really, you know, their third line was cooking with
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: you know, Garland Blueger and Joshua, and then they haven't
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  Speaker 3: really faced anything. So I'm like, I just don't know
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  Speaker 3: what this team is. And now they're facing adversity. Now
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, JT. I hope he's okay mentally,
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: you know, I tried to reach out to some guys
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  Speaker 3: and just be like, I hope he's okay and his
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: family's okay, And what I got was kind of kind
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  Speaker 3: of that like he's he's gonna he's doing Okay, he's
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: just taking some time and and rightfully so I think,
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: you know, mental health is so important and in the NHL,
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: and whether it's family or him, you know, I just
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: hope a speedy recovery he gets. Dakota Joshua ends up
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: having to deal with the cancer scare, who is the
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: heartbeat of that team for a long while, And then
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: you're asking Elias Petterson to do a lot. But Elias
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  Speaker 3: Petterson is is I think is getting too much criticism
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  Speaker 3: because he's trying to play within that system with Rick Talckett.
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  Speaker 3: With Rick talcke wants guys to play really hard and
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  Speaker 3: really physical and you know, be grinders b JT. Millers,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know if Elias can do that on
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  Speaker 3: you know, on a day to day basis. You got
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  Speaker 3: to let Elias like just be skilled. He does play
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  Speaker 3: physical and he plays hard, but you got to let
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: it do him on his own accord. And I think
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: he listens. It's a little bit like Mika's advantage that
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  Speaker 3: he listens to the outside noise too much and when
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  Speaker 3: people get on him, he kind of goes into a shell.
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  Speaker 3: So but I think he's been good as of late.
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  Speaker 3: Tackett was Rick was talking to the media and they
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: asked him about p D and he's like, he's like,
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  Speaker 3: that's all you guys ask me about his PDPD. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say the wrong thing. You're not
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  Speaker 3: going to catch me shit talking him right now because
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: I did it last year and I got in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: So he's like, he's like, just let the you know,
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  Speaker 3: and he's kind of saying it rightfully, so like let
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  Speaker 3: the kid be like, let him play, because you know
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  Speaker 3: this team is has all the pieces. But I just
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  Speaker 3: think this could be the best thing for them, is
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  Speaker 3: to get all of this adversity out of the way
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  Speaker 3: because come playoff time, they're a little bit more resilient.
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  Speaker 3: I just think last year they didn't have that where
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  Speaker 3: you look at a Nashville who kind of took him
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  Speaker 3: to the brink there. They went through all that that
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  Speaker 3: garbage and nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's talk a little money before we get
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  Speaker 1: to Don Grnado.
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  Speaker 2: So we went to Soto off the top.
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  Speaker 1: Nhol CHEMISTRC Gary Bettman announced this week the league's salary
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  Speaker 1: cap at least ninety two point four million dollars next season,
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  Speaker 1: a notable increase from the season's eighty eight million dollars
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  Speaker 1: salary cap and eighty three point five twenty three twenty
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: four response the news, I mean, listen, the cap is
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: what is right and it goes up.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: That's good news for everybody.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: When I want you to this, Jake, because someone says, okay,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: the Soto deal, you know, how does it impact on
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: the sports? Who could be the Soto esque in hockey?
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: Here's the names for you top free agents this summer,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: at least by NHL snais, you're gonna have Mitch Martyr,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: Miko Ranton and of course the big ones McDavid and
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Capriso eligible free agency in twenty twenty six.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Throw some wild crazy numbers out there for me.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, Juan Soto, Like, what is baseball doing? Like
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: we had It's crazy. We had Don Fair come in
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: br head of our our br head of PA and
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: you know, Betman just walked him like a dog and
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: and we could not get our cap up. Meanwhile he
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: went to MLB and just the players own the league. Yeah,
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: it's crazy. He was on belve Donald fit can can
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: can people fathom that Juan Soto hits three times a game?
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Three?
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: You know for you know, four to five paying in
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: the game, and he'll be a d H making that
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: much money. Nuts crazy.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: He is a below average defensive out there. Do not
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: believe this Gold Glube finalist nonsense.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: He is a below average base runner.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: He's an incredible hit or maybe the best hitter of
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: the game. It's your point, Oh Tani ten years, seven
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: hundred million ago. Yeah, but he pitches too, and being
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Japanese there's this global appeal and contracts and endorsements and
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: all the rest of it. So to your point, he's
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: making sixty five million more just just one thing.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Just like Shohey's generational one is you know, he's you know,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: for me, like to categorize somebody who's won so too
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: eskan hockey, it's somebody that's good, but not like a
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: mcdy like McDavid caprisof they're gonna get you know, they
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: should be getting fifteen.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: I think fifty.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I think fifteen AAV.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Until eight for one.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: I think the cap should be at one hundred, and
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's getting there. I think the league has
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: never been stronger. I think Gary Bettman and them is
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: and it's not because we're we're sponsored by the NHL.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: And I heart but Gary Betman has done a fantastic job.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: He's a crazy good businessman. I've sat in some CBA
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: talks during the lockout and was like, holy crap, this
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: guy's this guy knows what he's doing. So I think
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: the league's gonna get to one hundred and and you know,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: I think a McDavid it's gonna get. He should be
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: getting the most of anybody. He is the face of
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: the league. He will be for another you know, ten years.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: He's incredible hockey player. And then you got Caprisov as well,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: and I think would probably hard to win the heart
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: right now, right now, for sure, what he's done, you
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: cannot deny it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: The Soto sque contract though, which I'm gonna give to
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: somebody who's very good but not like the stud is,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Like I think Amico rotten and could get a Soto.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: I think if he doesn't stay in Colorado and accept
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: kind of a little bit less than Nate or Kale,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: he can go and get like a thirteen fourteen. I
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: think he could get something somewhere else because he's you
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: watch him, he's an absolute horse.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: He is so strong in the corner, is so good
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: net front. He's very like he's very much like dry Cidle,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: very similar player. I love, you know, that big, kind
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: of burly guy that can pass, can shoot, can score.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: And I think he could get not overpaid because I think,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: you know, I think all NHL players are underpaid. It's
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: just that's that's me being an ex player and wanting
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: guys to make as much as possible. But I think
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that could get a little
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: couple extra million that you know, people would be like, oh,
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: this might not age well, but obviously in the short
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: term it'll be a great He'd be a great player
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: to have on your team. So I just think if
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: he doesn't sign in Colorado, you could see him getting
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: those numbers for sure.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It's a good pick.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Listen, I don't want to do an honor and meeting
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: right now, but just I know talks to get creative
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: our producers. So just an idea for future reference, We'll
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: do a segment called Fear Factor and you.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Tell us Donald fear stories.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Because it sounds like your interpretation was rather underwhelming, So
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I look forward to morsto.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, give me a break. Here, look
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: at what geez, Louise, just look at baseball. You were
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: a baseball But that's also a credit to how good
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Gary Bettman is, because Gary Bettman absolutely put him in
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: a box and said see you later, and then he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: you know, Gary's still here.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And again we'ren don ain't.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: We're not just saying that because we're in partners with NHL,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but it does certainly help still to come here. In
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: n HL unscripted, the Don Grenade, Don Coronado from GV
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: to DG. We'll talk coaching with Gronado, what it's like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to coach Austin Matthews.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: That's next.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: The first ever guest on the inaugural EPs of NHL
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: in scripted was the kid Marrow.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: How do you top it? Second verse even better than
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the first. Don Granado is in the house.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen climb the head coaching ranks from the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: USHL to the EHL, where we went a Kelly Cup
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of the Pueria Riverman to the AHL before finally stimming
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: his head coach of the Buffalo Savers for three full seasons.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Don is great to see.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're honored. This is something that's going to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: be added to that list. You're the second guest ever
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: here at NHL in scripted.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I will add that to my list. It's a lot
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: of pressure. I hope I can live up to it
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: and make sure we addit a lot out. That's all
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you. How about that?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk how let's just talk right off the gate?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: How bad is the Buffalo Savers? Because now we know
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: it's not your fault, it's them internally. No, honestly, I
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you a little bit off the.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: You're a pain in the ass as a player, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: now you're still a pain in the ass.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you heard.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: You heard.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: The rumors are done.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: My name, my nickname is locker room lawyer. So it's uh,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I drove coaches crazy. But what I wanted to ask
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you is do you find looking at the league right
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: now and seeing how like at times, how short the
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: life span is of a coach and how much guys
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: are under the hot seat?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Quick?
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Is that changing the way coaching is being approached and
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: in your eyes and you know, like moving forward with
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: your career, like next time you get a shot, like
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: are you going to be have that in mind? Or
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: is it something that you really just got to block out.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to block it out number one. I
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: mean I was getting questions about being fired, you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: a month and through the true course of the season,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: like like every coach does, uh that that you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: expectations when you're coaching, and you do you do a
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: good job of coaching, you know, and I look at
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: different coaches around the league. What you're doing is elevating
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: expectations the greater. You know, h Andrew Burnett's a perfect case.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: He's he's not getting any credit for what he may
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: have done last year as a coach. Nobody's talking about
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: what he might have done. And it's because it's intangible.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: It's hard, is it? Is it? You know, a lot
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: of credit has to go to the players. I mean
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: you automatically have to do that. That's a given. They're
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: the guys that going into battle. And then it's sort
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: of like, Okay, how do you measure what the management
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: team did? How do you measure what the coach did?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: But in any event, you're but by if you overachieve
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: as an organization, you know, that's the new bar for
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: your fan base, for your media that covers you. You
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: have to match that or exceed that the next year,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: because elevations just just roast. And that's where you see
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: the coaches fall on the hot seats when when the
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: expectations rise, Oh we had a good offseason, we are
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: bringing in three four guys. Expectations are rising by everybody,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and now the coach and the coaching staff has to perform.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: So that's just part of the job and you just
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: have to live with it. And I said to our media,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I kept saying all the time. I was an interim
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: coach for twenty eight games and the season ended. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: didn't know if I was going to get the job
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: for about another seven weeks. I didn't get hired till
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: late June, and I had talked to management for six
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: seven weeks. I thought I was out by that point
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: for sure. But the point I want to get back
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: to is when I was taking interviews as the interim coach,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I said, listen, I'm not going to coach this team
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: to try to get the head job. That's the wrong
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: agenda and the wrong objective. I'm I'm going to walk
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: in this rink today and every day and see what
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: does this team need in the context of who we're
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: playing what they need in the context of our competition.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Where are we at based on our comp We can't
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: tell that in July, but you can tell it right
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: right away in the when the season starts, and then
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the next opponent. So every day I walk in the
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: office to the rink and I say, Okay, this is
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: what we have to work with as a coaching staff.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: This is what we're going against tomorrow night or the
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: next night. And you stay in that and you stay focused.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: And I can remember getting tons of questions, you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: the month before I got fired, are you worried about
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: your job? And I can't worry about my job. I
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: have to do my job. And and I'm there's coaches
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: who get fired all the time. I used to watch
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: as a kid coaches on the bench a lot, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: you could see their faces and their demeanor change, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: some guys, yeah, just before they're gonna get fired. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I always say, I don't want to be I don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: want to feel that type of pressure just and I
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: say all this. I have a lot of hindsight at
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: the age I am. I actually said it many times.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I am really glad I did not get a job
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: as a head coach head coach in the NHL when
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I was in my thirties, I was an American League
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: head coach of the year, probably two years old. Two
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: years old. Well, Jace, you know it wasn't me. It
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: was the team I had.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I yeah, well, I mean your part wise.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: It was. I was a young coach, and and I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: not saying I was a bad coach, but I know
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I wasn't some great coach, that's for sure. I was
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: a first year American League coach. I had amazing support
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: by a guy named Larry Plow, who was the general
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: manager of the Saint Louis Blues, and John Ferguson, who
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: was assistant general manager. The players we had, I had
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Dwayne Rolison in that. That doesn't hurt you. You know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: some great, great veteran leadership in the American League. I'm
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: coach of the year. So now there's talk that I
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: could be in the NHL head coaching. At the same time,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: my brother got promoted as an assistant coach to the
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: head coach of the Avalanche. And I can remember the call.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: He calls me and he says, Donnie, they've just given
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: me the job. They've fired Bob Hartley and they're asking
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: me to take over the team. And he's apologetic to
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: me on the phone because he had literally retired from
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: San Jose Sharks, had one year out and now three
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: months on the job as an assistant coach, and now
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: he's going to be a head coach in Colorado Avalanche
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: with three months coaching expences. And his apology goes, I'm sorry.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I know this is what you wanted and this is
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: your you know your goal. And I said, Tony, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: do not envy you right now. I don't worry about me.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not ready for that. And I can
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: remember having that conversation. So fast forward to me with
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the Buffalo Sabers. There's lots of challenges that we had
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: in Buffalo, and I don't I wouldn't have been able
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: to handle them at the age of thirty thirty five,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: you know, but having the experience I've had, Yeah, you're
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: gonna get you get bombarded as a head coach. You know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: why is he doing this? Why is he doing that?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jason, you said experience one question I wanted
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: to ask you, and you talked about Brunette as well
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: in Nashville and being held at those standards and him
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: last year making sure they didn't go to a YouTube
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: concert and the boys rattled off a sixteen game winning streak.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on like guys in a slump
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and like right now they've you know, lost eight straight.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: They can't find their game, they can't find the net.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: It's just like one thing after another. Like, what were
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on? I played with Jamie Ben and a
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: couple guys, and honestly, like when you'd be in a
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: slump like that, sometimes the coach would come up. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I had some good coaches and they'd be like, Hey,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: go out to the bar tonight, go pound about eight
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to ten drinks, get completely blacked out drunk, and then
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: come ready to play tomorrow and play a little guilty.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: And it worked a lot of the time, not all
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the time, because when you started, really if it's sometimes
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: it didn't work. But what are your thoughts on that
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: of like kind of getting guys out of their own
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: out of their own way and out of their own head.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Are you asking a coach his thoughts and having a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: player just get absolutely blitzed?
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Like just my thoughts are I have? No No bar
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: would come to mind first of all, so yeah, but
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: but no, I think that's very old school.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Jason.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we all know that that's very old school. But
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: the concept, I think is what we could talk about,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: the concept of you are trying to take some pressure
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: off of your player. He's he's fighting it, he's you
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: know the terms you use, he squeezing his stick. And
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: you know that the potential they have. You see them struggle,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: they fight, and you know they're in their own heads
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: and you want to you want to do whatever you
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: can as a coach in those situations when you trust
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: the player as a competitive guy, he's got the best
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: interests of the team. He cares about that. Uh, you're
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: doing everything you can to help that guy. And yes,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: it comes down to like just breathe and and Tay
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Thompson was a guy in this situation that that you're talking.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: It comes to mind right now. I just just think
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: about this right now. I had Taje and everybody knows
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: that that it followed the same. But I had him
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: when he was sixteen at the national team program, and
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I saw him and he was a fourth line player
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: for US at the national team. Him and Troy Terry.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: We're on our fourth line. Now ahead of them were
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: guys like Matthew Could Chuck and Austin Matthews and Jordan
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Greenway and Luke Connan and Christian Fisher. We just had
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: we had depth, Layton Keller and so we had some
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: amazing players. But I would tell them, Troy and Tage,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I said, listen, you know you're gonna be on the
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: fourth line and this this is gonna happen. But nobody's
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: future on this team is any brighter than yours. I
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: can tell you that they getting a little bit confused
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: with that. So let's fast forward about five six years later.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I get the job as the head coach in Buffalo
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: and Taze has yet to emerge. And here's a guy
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: that I saw. He's a ultra competitive guy. He's willing.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: His dad and family raised him right. Brent Thompson had
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: to work and earn every bit of everything he got
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: in his career and he had to literally fight for it. Yeah,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: and you could see Taje you know raised way that
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: you know, you work, you sacrifice, and it's going to
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: pay off. But if you think about that, you work,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you sacrifice, and then the final part is it's going
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: to pay off. And that is off in the distance. Well,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: when you do that every day, every day, you go
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: to work and you train the way Tay's trained day
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: after day, and it was accumulated a year after year.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: In his mind it was always it's going to pay
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: off in the distance. I had to convince him that
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: you're at the distance. Now, I'm in charge of your
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: ice time, I'm in charge of your situation time. We
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: shifted him the center. Now is the time you don't
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: come to work and say it's off in the distance anymore.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: That's that's just the psyche that he that I that
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I felt he had, and that was the conversation we had.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: And it was like, hey, you could score goals. You know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: I can't remember I having a discussion with him. Stop
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: trying to pick the two inch by two inch corner
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: of the net. Trust your body, grab the puck and
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: snap it. Don't think, don't think. Yeah yeah, And and
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: you know, even last year when he struggled, he got
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: back in his own head just to how we started, Jason,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: it was that was more so now I'm I'm conflicted
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: of okay, do I do you grind this guy now?
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Because it's like, oh my god, I expect more. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: need more. I'm the head coach, I need more out
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: of tage or do you help this guy? And and
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: so it's a real challenge. It's a real tedious, delicate situation.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: So donal, I'm curious what's happening in Chicago because I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: was there for what it ended up being Luke Richardson's
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: final game Blackhawks in the Maple Leafs and talking to Luke,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I asked him, did you always envision being a coach?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Was this something you wanted to do? And he said yeah,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: he said he was interesting.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: In Ottawa, you kind of got told otherwise you can
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: be the assistant associate coach.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: You're just not gonna be playing anymore. So it's your call.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So he's like, all right, well that's it for my
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: playing days.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm fasted by the idea of like a caretaker coach,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a coach who can come in and help a young
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: team rebuild and then hopefully take them to the next level.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Because I don't necessarily think it's fairly he lost his job.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I know Connor Bedard hasn't been as strong this season
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: as last year, but what exactly the expectations for the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Blackhawks going in, like how exact is Andrew Soordinson's going
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to come in and change whatever Luke Richardson was doing.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: So I was curious your take on Chicago, what's happening there?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, you know, the first thing, I know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: any position I've ever gone in and taken over, I
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: think you you don't want to You want to change
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: as little, Just change as little as it has to be,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: as necessary you want to. Obviously you maybe you want
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: to impart some of your own. But I think Luke
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: left a lot of really good things in place, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Luke built a lot of things. I think when I
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: was there in Chicago six years ago before I came
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: to Buffalo, you know, since then, they've lost Tays Caine,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Keith Seabrook in Crawford, they're big five, and those big
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: five you could lean on as a coach. So when
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Luke Richardson went in there, he didn't have those. The
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: last he had was a bit. He might have had
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: a bit of Tays and a bit of Patrick Kane,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: but so Luke had to do different type of coaching
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: because he didn't have that type of presence. So I
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: think Luke brought him a long way implemented a lot
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: of nice stuff that may not even sink in for
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: those guys quite yet. But Anders has to come in,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: he has to be himself. But I'm certain that he
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: recognizes plenty of good things that were in place, even
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: though it's easy to see areas they struggled.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Don I wanted to ask you a little bit of
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a family question. You know, that Granado name is you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: historic in this league and arguably considered the name last
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: name in the league. And how proud are you of that?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: And also how much do you want to cut the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: brake lines of like the Hughes family and also the
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: kad Chucks because you know they're starting to kind of
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: climb the ranks a little bit here. So what's what's
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the family thinking? Is there like a group thread of
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: the Granado's being like, we got to slow these gotta
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: slow these SLBs down here?
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah? No, not not work very competitive people, but not
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: in that regard. I can tell you that that's uh,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: that's exciting. Uh those guys are I think those those
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: guys are Cammy, Tony myself. What I'll tell you they're
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: what they're doing is is amazing. I'm glad We're just
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: even mentioned, uh uh even in that breath because uh,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: you know the Kichucks I had, I had both Brady
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: and Matthew at the national team program and Jack and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I Quinn also. Uh So it's two great, great families
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: and proud of both those groups and proud of to
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: know those moms, dads and players that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Team you coach, that national team, like the players on
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: that is absolutely insane. Like were there any that surprised
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: you or like surpassed your expectations? You mentioned Tage a
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: little bit, but like any other guys where you were like,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: cannot believe the steps he's taken.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, there's so many. It's it's there's so
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: much fun. You know, I just think names from my
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: head from you know, from like I said, Dempco to
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Brady and Matthew could shook to Austin.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: It was just fun every day coming to the rink.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: You knew in every every week. Then going to the bench.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: You'd play typical Friday, Saturday on a weekend and you
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: literally walk to the bench and say, Okay, how much
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: better did we get this week? Because you could see,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: you know, the improvement at that rate with players that age. Uh,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: you know, full engagement obviously, and and uh, just a great,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: great experience for me to go there and coach with
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: the hindsight of already coaching in the American League or
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: the NHL was a real bonus because you got raw
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: talent that you have to kind of bring up to
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: speed coach.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: What's something about Austin Matthews you could only appreciate if
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you've coached him and seen him the way you have.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Why there's so much to appreciate out of him. But
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: his hand eye coordination is just insane. And the goalie
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: scored a night ago the breakaway goal contested breakaway the
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: entire way and it was a foot race and I
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: don't know it wasn't an one hundred foot plus foot racer.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: One hundred and fifty foot foot race. Yeah, and what
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: you don't what you don't understand, and Jason could could
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: appreciate it. You have a guy in your back that's
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: whacking you and he's just looking for All he needs
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: is one inch of your stick and the play's done.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: And Austin fended it off and guided it off as
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: he's approaching the goalie and time and space is shrinking
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: and knew all the potential options intuitively where that puck
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: had gone the net, based on what the goalie was
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: going to do when he finally got there, and where
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: he had the puck sitting when he finally got there.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I was amazed at that stuff with him, that hand
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: eye coordination and that spatial orientation, you know, where he
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: didn't know how he was going to beat you. It
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: was almost like he in that situation the other night.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: He waited for the d to go and then okay,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I'll take this because you're taking that, and then he
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: waited for the at the last instant. I don't know
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: how I'm gonna beat the goalie yet, but I know
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: he's going to make a move here and I'm gonna
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: split second react and put it somewhere else. And you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: when you watched it, I watch it every day for
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: two years. You appreciate that I've actually watched a lot
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: of very talented players that is elite and very unique.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Great stuff. Don Honestly, I appreciate all the insight it's been.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: It's been great to hear you reflect, and like Jason
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: was saying, the coaching community is something that we can
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: all appreciate because.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: It's it's a much harder job than people realize.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Everyone thinks that they can do it, which I'm sure
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: is like many jobs in the world.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: But I appreciate the insight and continued success.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you guys. Thanks for that too, Jason, a
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: little appreciation. It's always nice to be appreciated.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: So oh yah. I mean I've heard so many good
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I've heard so many good things from you too, from
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: the guys Vanni, Hiini, Stroza and and everybody loved you
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: in Buffalo, so you know, I hope to see you
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: find something. Yeah, I know. I mean, the Granado's are
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: all the nicest people, tone everybody. It's it's crazy. You
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: guys are too nice.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Thanks. Thanks, We don't want that reputation off.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, start cracking some heads.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Here, see you guys.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: It's tough to top the kid Mirro. But Don Gernando,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: my man can talk. He's got stories for days.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And I mean it was we could have got an
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: hour with him.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Oh easily, And now we had our producer was trying
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: to cut him off and he was giving him. He
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: was giving him our producer this one, like, hey, let
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: me finish.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I have new film.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Respect for tal most producers are passive aggressive. Hey coach, Hey,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: we're on the room right now. Yeah, it's TV, it's podcast.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It's great at streaming.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: We need we need the clicks. God damn it, let's go.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you know much is getting censored.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: But Tel's got some low hanging fruit there because he
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: went right at He went right at Donnie g and
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: took it on the chin as well. Hey, he took
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: it like a champ. God back on track.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So what I love with the Golden Globe nominations is
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: there's nerds like me who are like seeing it, seeing it,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: seeing it. Haven't seen it on my list. I've got
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: thirty five screeners. Now this will be going higher on
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: my list. So, for example, The Brutalist is a film
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: that's coming out December twentieth. Adrian Brody stars in the film,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: and I heard a lot of buzz around it and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I co wait to see.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I watched it last week. I'm like, nice, Golden Globe.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Nominated Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor for Adrian Brody,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actor Guy Pierce, Best Supporting Actress Felicity Jones.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: And then I look at other films and go, okay,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Amelia perez Is on Netflix Selena Gomez, I'm not really
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: interested in I'm not being misogynists. It's just a female
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: all cats, it's a musical bug. Oh, it's got Golden
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Globe nominated. It leads Elenis have to see it. And
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I realized, Jay, I'm like, I am in such a
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: minority of one of these people, because I would say
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of people see Golden Globe nomination, that
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: go who cares? And I'm wrapped up in this. I'm
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: making a list. I got notes here, So I'm curious,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: where do you land on the spectrum of like I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: had it at my calendar. Nine am, Golden Globe nominations
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm going through it versus someone who couldn't care less,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: And I think you might care a little bit more
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: only because your wife's an actress and you do get
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the screeners like me.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I just love I love how you preface the
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: non misogyny, even sound agynistic.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: But I don't think all female cash and it's a musical.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, not, that's.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Way, that's that's my wife's that's my wife's. You know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: my wife's said she can sing, dance, and.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Act, she's on Broadly. That's different.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out, she's on Broadway. She's done Netflix shows
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: with Kevin James, and she's done a couple of indies.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: But she kind of texts me Journey because we're talking
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: about it, you know, we we we get the films
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: as well, and she'll watch and she's so into it
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and and I very much enjoyed. I grew up watching movies.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: We did the old the two uh two for one
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: day where my dad would buy a ticket to the theater.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: We'd go at like ten am and then we'd stay
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: for four and just Rob the Rob the movie theater,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Blind So and Cineplex Odeon and yeah, reference, thank you
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: so So. And my brother's like my I grew up.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: My brother had just stacks of DVDs, so I watched
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: like I watch you know Create, you know, uh, Dog
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Day Afternoon was like one of my favorite movies. Like
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, all these old school movies like that Heat
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: and things like that, and then those are my things.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: But my wife was she texted me, she's like she's
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: like she's like, honestly, have you seen any of the
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: best picks, Because she's like she's like, it's kind of
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: funny that half of the movie. She's like, usually the dramas,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: it's nothing anybody's heard of except like, you know, the
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: very big cinephiles.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yea.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: And then everybody's like, oh my god, the Brutalist is one,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: and everybody's like like, oh yeah, great, it's like it'll
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: be out in six weeks, and uh, you've never heard
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: of anybody in it, but we're give him a golden
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: gold because it's so political. And I do find you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: it's very much a back padding society in the movie
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: industry in terms of, you know, the politics side of it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: But my big snub, and I'm a big fan of
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: and I think was a little bit junk that is
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: doomed too not getting a NODV. You say, say it right,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: come correct.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: He did a film called Also These, which is the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: first one to put him on the map and Academy
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Award an incredible movie. It was like, oh, he'll become
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a dude, Prisoner's Arrival and now Dune and done too.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's it's such a fantastic movie and the
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: cinematography and I mean it's winning all these other awards
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, who put it all together to
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: goddamn director. So give Danny Vanieve his due. So that's
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: my sumb And then I saw you see Josh Brolin
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: came out and was like, if he doesn't get nominated
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: for a director, he's quitting acting. Yeah, because he thinks
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: he deserves it. And then Danny Villenev said, I'll punch
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: him in the face if he quits acting. So seeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I pay attention the.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Six nominees Doom Part two. You've heard of Nickel boys,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: You have no idea what it is. I have the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: screen September fifth, Yeah, September fifth, I have the screener.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It's about the nineteen seventy two Munich and it's viewed
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: for the lens of television.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: No one's seen it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: The Brutalist, which I mentioned, which is Great Conclave, which
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: is a bunch of popes trying to find a new pope.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Ray finds his great and it's Stanley Tucci, John Lithgow.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think many people have seen it. And then
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the one that helps finding a pope, right, and then
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: your best point, which is that the movies haven't been
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: out yet, so do you see the nominias?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: You go, oh, I can't wait.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: We're is it and this we have talking about it
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: is a complete unknown the Bob Dylan bio pick.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: It's not out till Christmas Day. You know, great, I
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: have to wait two weeks to watch this.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, more Golden Globe nominations will be coming down the pike,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: and we will talk about the snub of John M.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Chew for director for Wicked.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Oh crazy, that's that's a crazy one too.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I can't hit you on this. Let's talk about John Tortorella.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Torts gets fired up. Okay, the Flyers lose.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Four to three time the Bruins on Saturday. That came
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: was on NHL Network. By the way, e J.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Raddick with the call always fantastic speaking of Granada and Tony.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: That's electric.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: That's like e J.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Raddick is electric. Just but I believe he's think about it,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: like you want to talk guy that can spin a yarn.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: You get him in the office before a show.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Eachian all time great storyteller.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I'm obvious sitting there and trying to do work. I'm
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: going on an hour and he'll just go talk for
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: the whole hour with me working and just he'll just
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: keep He'll just keep he just goes right through. Don't matter.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I just you know, I'm going on in
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: an hour each I love these stories. But and then
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: just just bulldozer.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It just blows through stuff.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does what Don Granado did tell it, Yes,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: burries up.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: All right here is towards pretty pissed after this one.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let me start.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Okay, one thing I teach my team to do is
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: not dive. Maybe I should start teaching him that. The
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: way this has gone here, the way goes on, maybe
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: I should start teaching them how to dive. Obviously, penalty
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: is a factor today, but five on five where you're
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: happy with the body of work, especially in the first piew,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: we played our ass off. Yes, I thought we played
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: really well.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: When you feel like that, like you just said, you
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: know that it was comments, you mean, what does it
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: mean to you, especially defending your guys like that, that
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: you feel like maybe something will stolen from you guys tonight. Yeah.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go too deep into it. I just
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: I it's one of the things we talk about most
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: as a team. We're gonna play an honest game. There's
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: no cheating, there's no embarrassing referees. You don't embarrass the referees,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: and that went on here tonight is just ridiculous. So
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: I'm proud of the way our team play. We kiss
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: another one away, yeah, but other people had a little
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: bit to do with that also.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, Meetchkoff dived in that game too. That's the
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: funniest thing with Charlie McAvoy. That's the best part of it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: It's like, I teach my guys not to dive. Meechkoff
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: dived twice in one play like tour. I love it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I mean there's a couple of dives, but I mean,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: you gotta love towards He's just candid and and you
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: know everything I've heard about he he'll beat you down,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: but he does protect the players. Yeah, and he does
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: take care of those guys. So it's like it's good
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: to see a coach it as your back. But I mean, yeah,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: the diving in the NHL is the the head the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: head snap in and listen. I've I've partaken or partook
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: whatever the verbage. Partook. I partook, I like partaking, but
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: part I partook in the diving culture on a few occasions.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: But I mean it wasn't like it is now. We
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: just don't want to get to soccer, and I think,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: you know, if we get into the soccer side of it,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: it'll be real ugly. But listen, it's a fast game
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: and some times the refs can't see everything.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: There was also a point about Torch was as supposed
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to about Mitch Cough.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the front unner for the Colder.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: The guy's been awesome, but he signed a water bottle
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: after getting booted from the game versus Gutah tows a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: lot of much to say, but you get the sense
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: he probably wasn't crazy about it.
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  Speaker 2: A guy sawi a water bottle.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: He kind of was, like I watched it. He kind
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: of was like he asked like three times. He's like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, when did he do this? And they're
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: like when he left the ice and he's like no, no,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: but like what did he do exactly? Like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: But I actually love it because you could see him
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: kind of like trying not to laugh because I mean,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: this kid's got almost a point of game. Like, this
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: kid's been unbelievable for this team, and I mean they're
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: feisty and in it, and you know, he kind of
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: he kind of kind of you know, gave him a
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: little bit of a of a whack early on and
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: scratched him for a couple of games. But I mean,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: he's he's such a great player, and I just think
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: it's funny. This kid barely speaks any English, and it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: just like I signed water Bot.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Well, one thing that translates is the tenure
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: in of ustry one of the great moments in sports
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and entertainment history, which is what we're trying to do
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: here in NHL.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: In scripted and referring.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: To the hit holiday classic Holiday Sweater performed by then
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: members of the sand Day Sharks, including our very own Jasons.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, tis the holiday season and here in Sharks
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: territory it's freezing.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Very reason rock I looked so fine. I looked so sexy,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: even with my face stashed up on the flexity. When
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: it snows all the weather gets sweat, I just split out.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Come to your house for it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: So what did that sound like?
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Let me let me see your I stay for a
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: little cypress hill there.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Oh that's great too.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I want to hear the Cypress hill.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good. That's a good.
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  Speaker 3: One of the great rhymes of all time, you know.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: And listen, it's tough to top that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: We could appreciate that, But what do you make of
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the fact of Sharks, a team with whom obviously you're
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: close to. They're trying to recapture that magic now with
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Holiday Inflatables hell of a title, as Pamela Anderson, by
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the way, is nominated for a Golden Globe for a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: film called The Last Showgirl.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Speaking of inflatables, go ahead.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: There he is. I've been waiting. We finally uncorked him
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: episode two with five minutes left, fantastic one. I like it. Actually,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: it's it's good. Listen. I'm impartial to the original, and
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I just think it was we were ahead of our time.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: You think I was ten years ago and we were
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: just ripping that. And this one was good too. And
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the funniest part about the whole thing is I got
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: traded before it ever got released, and then Mackenzie Blackwood
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: got traded before it was released. So there's like a
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: curse of the Holiday Sweater. So the next one they
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: do in ten years, someone's getting dealt and poor McKenzie.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm I like, I think I remember it
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: was like two days before I got trade and I'm
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: just out there like, you know, I'm one of the boys, sharks.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: And then they're like, hey, come on in the room
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: here we traded. Yeah, yeah, was that it was my wrap?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Not that good. They're like, this guy can't can't put
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: a rhyme together, just no no coordination whatsoever. He's enjoying
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: this too much show.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to Inscripted.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: On the next episode, I can tease for you, Tal
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: is going to be available. Our producer is finally going
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to be unveiled. Oh, Tal Pinchewski will not only be
• 46:31
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• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Plus I've got a lot.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: More on Dog Day Afternoon. You had me on this
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: soon as you mentioned, trust me, I will never aka
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: aka I'll tell you the origin of where Patina came
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: up with that. On the next episode of an HL Inscripted,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I look so fun.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I looked so sexy even with my face snet up
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: on the FLEXI. When it snows all the weather gets sweat,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I just slipped out my holiday.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Come to your house for a holiday.
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