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- 0:01Speaker 1: In this corner, standing at six foot five, weight class
- 0:03Speaker 1: unknowns but hailing from the city of Sins. Put your
- 0:06Speaker 1: hands together for Jamison Wells. And in this corner, standing
- 0:09Speaker 1: at five foot ten, weighing in at pound and coming
- 0:14Speaker 1: to us from his super secret bunker with no AC
- 0:17Speaker 1: in Tucson, Arizona.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Put your hands together for Luis Montemao.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Thank you. Welcome back to another episode of Mixed Company podcast.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Of course went out of the show. It's Jamison as always,
- 0:32Speaker 1: drawn by Louise Ouise.
- 0:34Speaker 2: What's going on, man Hey, Jamison is very glad to
- 0:37Speaker 2: be back on the MIC as always. Yeah, this will
- 0:39Speaker 2: be a shorty edition. There's a couple of topics I
- 0:41Speaker 2: wanted to bring up that I thought were interesting in
- 0:43Speaker 2: the boxing world. So if you're listening to this episode
- 0:46Speaker 2: when it comes out tomorrow Friday the twenty first, Amanda
- 0:50Speaker 2: Serrano comes back to the ring to fight Lukeresia Annabella Mansour.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Toronto's a great fighter. We're definitely excited about her being
- 0:57Speaker 2: in the ring. But the biggest thing that was that
- 0:59Speaker 2: I found interesting was that this is gonna be bought
- 1:01Speaker 2: broadcast on TikTok Live. Amanda Surrhino's under Jake Paul's MVP,
- 1:06Speaker 2: you know, promotional company, And I just gotta wanted to
- 1:09Speaker 2: get your take on this is. You know, we haven't
- 1:12Speaker 2: seen anything like this before, right, you know, an exclusive
- 1:14Speaker 2: TikTok collaboration. What are your thoughts on you know, what
- 1:17Speaker 2: this means for boxing? If it's a good idea kind
- 1:19Speaker 2: of a stupid one. I know we've seen like Facebook before.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I think we've seen Twitter before. By TikTok's a new one.
- 1:27Speaker 1: However, that's what's in right now, that's what's trending right now.
- 1:31Speaker 1: So I'm not necessarily mad at I'm more curious than anything.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I think you get a lot of casual viewers that
- 1:37Speaker 1: are just flipping, flipping up and saying different things. So
- 1:41Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I
- 1:42Speaker 1: think it's pretty cool. Actually.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know we've seen stuff on Facebook, like
- 1:46Speaker 2: I said, on YouTube, but I and I could be
- 1:49Speaker 2: wrong about this, but I don't think they were exclusively
- 1:52Speaker 2: like on you know, Twitter. I think there were you know,
- 1:54Speaker 2: a co broadcast or something like that. From what I
- 1:57Speaker 2: read this is, the appears to be where where the
- 1:59Speaker 2: fight is gonna be brought. I'm I'm interested I'm intrigued.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea to try to expand
- 2:05Speaker 2: beyond the horizons that you know, where we're at right now.
- 2:08Speaker 2: It is. I gotta admit for myself, it's weird to
- 2:11Speaker 2: watch a fight, you know, vertical on a screen.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Well, some people got iPads, some people got laptops, so
- 2:18Speaker 1: it's going me like, I say, it's gonna be interesting
- 2:20Speaker 1: and so got I will put it this way. There
- 2:22Speaker 1: are people that watch regular fights on TikTok. I'm not
- 2:26Speaker 1: saying the streams are legal. Yeah, And there's people who
- 2:30Speaker 1: watch via the phone to turn that shit sideways and
- 2:34Speaker 1: watch all twelve rounds. So that's just how it goes.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Sometimes that's true, and I've actually I remember my mom
- 2:41Speaker 2: was watching a World Cup game in Mexico game on
- 2:43Speaker 2: her phone on a TikTok live stream, and then when
- 2:46Speaker 2: I found out, I was like, Mom, I set her
- 2:48Speaker 2: up with like one of the actual legit you know,
- 2:50Speaker 2: streating services and apps that I paid for, just just
- 2:53Speaker 2: so she has, like, just so she has a clear
- 2:54Speaker 2: picture of it.
- 2:55Speaker 1: You know.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Now that they cared, I'm like, Mom, what are you doing?
- 2:59Speaker 1: Yes?
- 3:00Speaker 2: So, yes, I am aware people did for I know,
- 3:03Speaker 2: and I am. I'm speaking as a forty year old
- 3:05Speaker 2: man who for first got on TikTok like eight months ago.
- 3:07Speaker 1: So just keep let's eight thousand with Juluis you know
- 3:11Speaker 1: someone very close to you that's done in a few
- 3:13Speaker 1: times because a couple of things. I'm not gonna pay.
- 3:17Speaker 1: If I don't have to pay, I'm not gonna pay.
- 3:20Speaker 1: And it's not a fight that I really truly want
- 3:23Speaker 1: to see. If I'm just growing TikTok and I see
- 3:26Speaker 1: round foe and it's a you know, it's it's clear,
- 3:29Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch and I'm gonna roll it out until
- 3:32Speaker 1: that stream works or doesn't work, I'm gonna keep going.
- 3:36Speaker 1: One of the tank fights wasn't a roach. It was
- 3:39Speaker 1: another fight. He had it kind of. I think something happened.
- 3:42Speaker 1: I wasn't at home, so I was rolling and I'll well,
- 3:46Speaker 1: what do we have here? And then it just magively appeared.
- 3:50Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's fair.
- 3:52Speaker 2: And you know, not only speaking as an old man
- 3:54Speaker 2: who who got on tick there recently, I'm also speaking
- 3:57Speaker 2: as a guy who I like video quality. When anything,
- 4:00Speaker 2: TV TV shows movies that I watch by distant four K.
- 4:04Speaker 2: I have a giant TV. I want to stream on that,
- 4:06Speaker 2: you know, and that's my personal preference. I would be
- 4:09Speaker 2: very very hard for me to watch an entire you know,
- 4:12Speaker 2: twelve Browns on on the phone. But again that's personal preference.
- 4:17Speaker 2: I spent the damn money for a reason, Like you know,
- 4:19Speaker 2: I have grown up money now, Like I want that
- 4:21Speaker 2: shit to look good, you know what I mean.
- 4:23Speaker 1: No, I'm with you. I'm the same way. I prefer
- 4:25Speaker 1: like I don't doin you wrong. If if there's an option,
- 4:29Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the TV setup, no doubt about it. However,
- 4:32Speaker 1: there's times where you either not at home, you out
- 4:35Speaker 1: about whatever. If that's the best you got, that's the
- 4:38Speaker 1: best you got. Or if I could save eighty dollars,
- 4:41Speaker 1: you know, and I was going to that's something else,
- 4:43Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's kind of hot these days.
- 4:45Speaker 2: It has very high these days. That's eighty dollars is
- 4:48Speaker 2: one tag of gas for me personally, So I get that. Yeah,
- 4:52Speaker 2: I just be very interesting, like I see, Like I said,
- 4:55Speaker 2: I I'm very curious as to you know, it'll bring
- 4:57Speaker 2: more people into boxing. What's the thing I've always talked
- 5:00Speaker 2: about the thing that we want bring the younger crowd.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Uh And yeah, you know, I always got to remember
- 5:05Speaker 2: people will sit and watch, you know, hours of a
- 5:07Speaker 2: TikTok live stream if something they like, you know. So
- 5:10Speaker 2: I admit one hundred percent I'm coming to this as
- 5:13Speaker 2: as the old grampy that you know. It's just learning
- 5:15Speaker 2: about this. But you know, if it works, it works,
- 5:18Speaker 2: that's great. I think that. Also. Another thing that I've
- 5:22Speaker 2: done before is what is it called screen mirroring, when
- 5:24Speaker 2: you you know, connect your phone up to the TV. Yep,
- 5:28Speaker 2: well at home and if I'm home on Friday night,
- 5:30Speaker 2: that's probably what I'm gonna do. Just connect the phone
- 5:32Speaker 2: to the TV. And it's a lot easier these days,
- 5:34Speaker 2: like airplay, you know all that stuff, or I you've got.
- 5:36Speaker 1: A second phone or I've had or whatever, just do
- 5:39Speaker 1: that with that so you can keep your phone with you.
- 5:41Speaker 1: All god things you can do. But you're right, you're right. Yeah.
- 5:45Speaker 2: So, uh so I'm not trying to like pooh pooh
- 5:47Speaker 2: this whole idea. I think it's uh, you know, let's
- 5:50Speaker 2: try it, why not, you know, let's see, let's see
- 5:52Speaker 2: what it comes to it. I will say, though we
- 5:54Speaker 2: got realistic it seems like it's the general overall lack
- 5:58Speaker 2: of respect for women's boxing that you know they're not.
- 6:01Speaker 2: They're not on Friday Saturday nights. You know they're they're
- 6:03Speaker 2: not getting hyped up as much. And you know they're
- 6:05Speaker 2: on Fridays and they're on TikTok instead of ESPN. I'm
- 6:09Speaker 2: don't think that's all it. That's the whole Thing's a
- 6:12Speaker 2: part of it.
- 6:13Speaker 1: So I'll put it this way. I'm gonna put it
- 6:15Speaker 1: this way. I don't mind the day that a fight's on,
- 6:19Speaker 1: because here's the thing. If a good fights on Wednesday night,
- 6:22Speaker 1: sports has come on every day. So if a game
- 6:24Speaker 1: is on Wednesdays on a Wednesday, if a good fight's
- 6:26Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, we're gonna come back the next day
- 6:28Speaker 1: talking about damn, did you see that fight last night?
- 6:31Speaker 1: So I don't think that's the premium like my friends
- 6:34Speaker 1: is right now. If Secure fought hating on a Wednesday,
- 6:38Speaker 1: that'd be kind of crazy. But if I'm not mistaken
- 6:40Speaker 1: and my memory serves me correct, Shirk Corp fought on
- 6:43Speaker 1: a Thursday once upon time on ESPN when he had
- 6:46Speaker 1: a tough fight versus the guy that I forgot his name.
- 6:51Speaker 1: I think it was a Puerto Rican cat, but he
- 6:53Speaker 1: kind of I don't think it was on. It was
- 6:56Speaker 1: a fight. He fought here on a Thursday, I'm remember,
- 7:00Speaker 1: because I was out of town, got to be somewhere Friday.
- 7:04Speaker 1: He fought here on the third. So it has happened.
- 7:07Speaker 1: It's not normal, it's not regular, but it has happened.
- 7:12Speaker 1: I would, honestly, you know what, I'm glad you brought
- 7:15Speaker 1: that out, Louis. That's a great point. We in the summertime,
- 7:18Speaker 1: when there's nothing on, we should have way more boxing
- 7:22Speaker 1: matches throughout the week. The weekends are good for the
- 7:25Speaker 1: good matches, but if there was a solid up and
- 7:29Speaker 1: coming car on a Tuesday night, you're telling me you
- 7:31Speaker 1: wouldn't tune in.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Absolutely one undred percent I would.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. Yeah, we have an
- 7:37Speaker 2: opportunity here. What I've said before is we're leaving money
- 7:40Speaker 2: on the table. Hell, I'm just happy to watch any boxing.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Like I have channel surfed and one night I came
- 7:45Speaker 2: across like two women fighting. The announcer was in Spanish,
- 7:49Speaker 2: and I'm like, let's go. I wasn't even like, oh,
- 7:51Speaker 2: cool boxing, let's check it out. I was like, let's
- 7:54Speaker 2: fucking go.
- 7:55Speaker 1: You know.
- 7:55Speaker 2: I was excited. Yeah, absolutely, I would absolutely tune into
- 7:58Speaker 2: a Wednesday night fight Thursday night.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Yeah, because like you got, people haven't realize now everything
- 8:03Speaker 1: can be Friday sad like, it don't just work that way.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Like there's one is only there's only so many dates
- 8:08Speaker 1: for that. I mean dates, there's only so many dates
- 8:10Speaker 1: in general, but there's only somebody arenas that are open
- 8:12Speaker 1: on weekends like that, so you don't just have every
- 8:15Speaker 1: weekend available. But also too during the summer, people are
- 8:19Speaker 1: dying for things to watch. We've had like women's soccer
- 8:22Speaker 1: on We've had like when baseball has early days, it
- 8:26Speaker 1: doesn't have a full slate. People are like, damn, what
- 8:28Speaker 1: can we watch? What's up in it? The options are
- 8:32Speaker 1: pretty slim, So, to be honest with you, boxing in
- 8:34Speaker 1: the summer would be dope during the week. I'm not
- 8:37Speaker 1: saying that your main events on a Wednesday, but if
- 8:39Speaker 1: you had, if you had a card a week on
- 8:44Speaker 1: a And I'm not saying a breakup, it's a regular
- 8:46Speaker 1: some guys, just some dudes up and coming. I think
- 8:49Speaker 1: we do very well.
- 8:51Speaker 2: No, definitely, and uh yeah, I know exactly what you
- 8:54Speaker 2: were talking about. Shaker Stephen thought Edwin Delo Santos to
- 8:56Speaker 2: fight that everybody hated. Yep, that was Thursday Night. Tell
- 8:59Speaker 2: females as well. He had a Thursday night fight because
- 9:02Speaker 2: I remember it was it was my birthday that day
- 9:05Speaker 2: and I went out to grab a drink and that's
- 9:07Speaker 2: when the fight was on ESPN. But I've always said
- 9:09Speaker 2: I asked the bartender she could flip it on for me.
- 9:11Speaker 2: She did, so, Uh yeah, I think it's worked out before,
- 9:15Speaker 2: and I think we're definitely we need to bring a
- 9:17Speaker 2: little bit more prestige to off nights. I guess you'd
- 9:22Speaker 2: call them, yeah, yeah, box so yeah, I mean, I
- 9:25Speaker 2: would definitely encourage people to set up more fights during
- 9:28Speaker 2: the weekend, as long as they're not super late. I
- 9:30Speaker 2: know people gotta, you know, get up early, but you know,
- 9:33Speaker 2: eight nine pm, nine pm on a Thursday.
- 9:35Speaker 1: If you did, if you started at nine pm eight
- 9:39Speaker 1: pm West East Coast time five five of our time,
- 9:43Speaker 1: people would watch man like even if you started at
- 9:46Speaker 1: nine East Coast time six here, people would watch like.
- 9:49Speaker 1: It's something where people want to watch stuff, and if
- 9:52Speaker 1: you have it on, people are gonna watch. And there's
- 9:55Speaker 1: enough boxers where you can keep guys active, keep them paid.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Because the networks need content like the reason why things
- 10:02Speaker 1: that the reason why boxings on all these channels, because
- 10:05Speaker 1: during certain months there's a need for content, a live content.
- 10:09Speaker 1: So there's definitely a way to make this work. But
- 10:11Speaker 1: I don't make the decisions, so I'm just a fan,
- 10:14Speaker 1: so that's all. It's about my pay grade by this
- 10:16Speaker 1: a suggestion that's thrown out there.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Definitely, well, uh, great idea. Let's see, you know, if
- 10:22Speaker 2: this becomes a big thing and there's a lot more
- 10:24Speaker 2: fights to be shot on TikTok, and sure we can
- 10:26Speaker 2: show them on you know, Wednesday, Thursday nights, coming forward,
- 10:28Speaker 2: Going forward. All Right, the other big piece of news
- 10:31Speaker 2: that we got coming up this weekend Saturday, the twenty
- 10:34Speaker 2: second tail fi Mo Lopez fights Rolely Romero in a
- 10:38Speaker 2: I think I think it's a pretty anticipate fight. People
- 10:40Speaker 2: are kind of getting excited about it. You know, people
- 10:41Speaker 2: are always excited to see uh tel fieling back in
- 10:44Speaker 2: the ring. Uh. You know, ROLI's coming off his big
- 10:46Speaker 2: win against Bryan Garcia. Let's start here, Jamison, you're are
- 10:50Speaker 2: our sports better are betting expert? What are the odds
- 10:53Speaker 2: on this fight?
- 10:54Speaker 1: I'm pulling up now. Rowlie's definitely underdog. I'm telling you
- 10:57Speaker 1: that now we know that. But Roly is a local guy.
- 11:03Speaker 1: I think he's either I think with the high school year,
- 11:05Speaker 1: I think, but he is a guy that a lot
- 11:07Speaker 1: of people like out here. I don't know for people
- 11:11Speaker 1: who know him personally. Uh ta Femo is minus three
- 11:15Speaker 1: hundred to win, meaning that you gotta win out to
- 11:17Speaker 1: put one hundred bucks, you gotta put three hundred on him.
- 11:20Speaker 1: If you think Roly's gonna win, you put a hundred
- 11:22Speaker 1: on him. You get two hundred and forty five dollars
- 11:24Speaker 1: back for three hundred you put on him. So there
- 11:26Speaker 1: you go.
- 11:27Speaker 2: So with that said, is there any I know role
- 11:30Speaker 2: is the underdog? Either of us really believe that he
- 11:32Speaker 2: can pull this off and get the win here? What
- 11:35Speaker 2: are you feeling?
- 11:36Speaker 1: I don't know. Like Tia Femo is still a really
- 11:39Speaker 1: good boxer, He's just not like the elite of elites anymore.
- 11:42Speaker 1: He's still a good guy. Rolie can be active, he
- 11:47Speaker 1: could be pesky. I don't know if he can pull
- 11:49Speaker 1: an upset though, Because pulling an upset I think he'd
- 11:51Speaker 1: have to drop ta Femo at least once. I don't
- 11:55Speaker 1: know if he could do that. And I say he can't,
- 11:57Speaker 1: just don't think he will. So I don't know if
- 12:00Speaker 1: that's a good bet for Roly. But if you're just
- 12:03Speaker 1: like action, he like the gamble, probably throwing one hundred
- 12:06Speaker 1: on Roi is probably the best bet. Or for it
- 12:09Speaker 1: to go the full twelve rounds probably another good bet too.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Bounce eat if you will knocking out Roller either. So
- 12:14Speaker 1: I think anybody goes full twelve.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree on definitely going the distance. The
- 12:19Speaker 2: thing about Rolie, you know, you've said before that Rolie
- 12:22Speaker 2: is not the kind of guy that you lose to
- 12:24Speaker 2: if you're an lead fighter. Another thing that I'm piggybacking
- 12:27Speaker 2: off of that, I don't think Rolie is the type
- 12:29Speaker 2: of guy who should be fighting once a year, Like
- 12:31Speaker 2: he's not that big of a bet. Or his last
- 12:34Speaker 2: fight was actually the Ryan Garcia win, which is in
- 12:37Speaker 2: May of last year, and now we're you know, thirty
- 12:41Speaker 2: or fifteen months or whatever it is since his last performance.
- 12:44Speaker 2: That to me kind of shows that everybody thought it
- 12:48Speaker 2: was a fluke, Like if he got that upset against Ryan,
- 12:51Speaker 2: he should have been back in the ring right away
- 12:53Speaker 2: to be like, this could be your new guy. He's
- 12:55Speaker 2: got the goods, et cetera.
- 12:57Speaker 1: I don't think it works like that with him because
- 12:58Speaker 1: we kind of know who he is, you know what
- 13:00Speaker 1: I mean. I think we kind of know what kind
- 13:02Speaker 1: of boxer he is, what kind of guy he is.
- 13:03Speaker 1: But also too, I mean paid, he got some good
- 13:07Speaker 1: money from that fight. I think I'm not mistake. I
- 13:09Speaker 1: mean he got paid because I was. He got a
- 13:11Speaker 1: good check for that, and there was not necessarily incentive
- 13:14Speaker 1: to rush back in the ring from that. But I'm
- 13:16Speaker 1: with you. In normal cases, you are in a rush
- 13:19Speaker 1: to get back. But I just don't know what fight
- 13:23Speaker 1: was there for him, because it's not like whoever he
- 13:25Speaker 1: fought next, he's gonna be the favorite. If he fought
- 13:27Speaker 1: another name, you know what I mean, like he STI
- 13:29Speaker 1: would have been an underdog. Now with that being said,
- 13:32Speaker 1: he wins this weekend, I think he has action at
- 13:36Speaker 1: getting bigger fights, which is always good. But I just,
- 13:39Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where I don't
- 13:42Speaker 1: quite know. I'm very curious to see how that's gonna go.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Sure, and let's be clear, he is a very talented fighter,
- 13:48Speaker 2: and he's you know, I shouldn't be telling I'm not
- 13:50Speaker 2: talking shit about Rolie especially being a fact out just
- 13:52Speaker 2: hitting here on micro vote, and there's a good chance
- 13:55Speaker 2: that you know, he upped this game. But I would
- 13:58Speaker 2: say that the general consensus is that, like I said,
- 14:02Speaker 2: it was more of a win because Ryan came in
- 14:04Speaker 2: snoozy than Roly really came an elite, if that makes sense,
- 14:08Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, it's It's like it's like if
- 14:11Speaker 2: I'm sparring in a gym against a twenty year old
- 14:14Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, I'm doing really well, that twenty
- 14:16Speaker 2: year old is tired and I'm just looking good. No
- 14:18Speaker 2: coach is gonna come bring me under their wing and say, like, man,
- 14:21Speaker 2: you could be the guy. They're gonna go to that
- 14:22Speaker 2: twenty year old and say, yeah, you fucked up today, kid,
- 14:25Speaker 2: you gotta step it up for next time. Right, And
- 14:28Speaker 2: I kind of see that's what happened with Roly versus right,
- 14:30Speaker 2: which I think it's I think it's a little unfair.
- 14:32Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Roly deserves the disrespect that
- 14:36Speaker 2: he gets. What was that when he was talking to
- 14:38Speaker 2: people from The Ring magazine recently where he asked, if
- 14:40Speaker 2: I were retired now, will I be like a Hall
- 14:42Speaker 2: of Famer or an ALTI and everyone's like fuck nos,
- 14:46Speaker 2: or only you're not.
- 14:47Speaker 1: We already throwing too many guys. There's some I mean,
- 14:53Speaker 1: all right, so the whole belt thing, right, if you
- 14:55Speaker 1: want a belt, I get your champ. I'm never gonna
- 14:57Speaker 1: take no wise champ away from them. There's so many
- 15:00Speaker 1: he built, and there's so many ways that guys get belts.
- 15:02Speaker 1: These days, we gotta do more than just win a belt,
- 15:05Speaker 1: like we gotta we got it. There needs to be
- 15:06Speaker 1: more to the resume, in my opinion, how many belts
- 15:09Speaker 1: have you defended? How have you looked in big fights?
- 15:12Speaker 1: How have you looked in guys that are compable to
- 15:15Speaker 1: you or if not better. There's so many different things
- 15:16Speaker 1: that need to go into the resume talk just like
- 15:19Speaker 1: oh yeah he wanted belt three times, he's a three
- 15:21Speaker 1: time champ, he's an hall I nah, no, no, no,
- 15:24Speaker 1: not anymore. It's not like the seventies and eighties. We
- 15:27Speaker 1: need we need more contacts and nuanced grotten things now.
- 15:30Speaker 1: But's not a Hall of Famer. No. Yeah.
- 15:33Speaker 2: I want to say that if Roy really brings his
- 15:37Speaker 2: a game, I still I wouldn't put money on it,
- 15:39Speaker 2: but I would say that he the fight goes the distance.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Maybe it's not even a unanimous win for for tel female.
- 15:45Speaker 2: He's he's you know, like you said, he's not the
- 15:48Speaker 2: top of the top of the list.
- 15:49Speaker 1: The lead.
- 15:50Speaker 2: He's has probably lost a step. He looked good against
- 15:52Speaker 2: your cours cors is just way way better than he is,
- 15:54Speaker 2: right and if Roly can you know, Roly will have
- 15:58Speaker 2: my respect if he gets in there looks good. And
- 16:02Speaker 2: what I like, what do we say? Lose pretty?
- 16:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it lose pretty like you know, to the point
- 16:06Speaker 1: where it's like, damn, you could have got that one.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, hey if it lasted a little
- 16:10Speaker 1: bit more so all those things. I'm with you on that.
- 16:12Speaker 1: But my thing is this, My biggest thing is when
- 16:14Speaker 1: it comes to row lead, what's the plan? Like, are
- 16:18Speaker 1: you just coming in there for a check? Or are
- 16:20Speaker 1: you coming here to trying to win? Like That's what
- 16:21Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious about because he's getting checks, he's
- 16:24Speaker 1: getting paid, But there's really I mean, the Ryan Garcia
- 16:27Speaker 1: one is what it is. But outside of that one,
- 16:30Speaker 1: what's the signature Roly win? Like you know what I mean.
- 16:34Speaker 1: So that's why I'm kind of I want to see
- 16:35Speaker 1: his mindset coming into this fight. I really do.
- 16:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I really just kind of wish that, you know,
- 16:40Speaker 2: with these younger guys when they get a big win,
- 16:43Speaker 2: that it's like they kind of see, you know, what
- 16:46Speaker 2: they could become and win more fights, win more belts,
- 16:48Speaker 2: when as opposed to like I got paid, I'm gonna
- 16:51Speaker 2: chill and you know, money's running low. Let's let's call
- 16:54Speaker 2: back up and schedule another fight. It's been it's been
- 16:57Speaker 2: a year, you know, I don't know, Like, yeah, I
- 17:00Speaker 2: get paid, absolutely, I definitely want boxes to be well paid,
- 17:04Speaker 2: but I feel like they're not as hungry anymore, you know,
- 17:06Speaker 2: to want to Well, it sucks.
- 17:09Speaker 1: It sucks because we do want guys get paid. But
- 17:11Speaker 1: it's like now we have we've ruined the balance. Right,
- 17:15Speaker 1: there's always in anything we do, you got to have
- 17:17Speaker 1: a balance of you want enough, hunger and getting paid.
- 17:21Speaker 1: You want some perfect combination of that. Because right now
- 17:24Speaker 1: you've got guys getting paid a lot of money, only
- 17:26Speaker 1: fighting once every year, year and a half. But guys
- 17:29Speaker 1: are getting paid back in the day, guys weren't getting
- 17:31Speaker 1: paid their fighting three times a year. That's the difference.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Don't know how you I don't know how you fix it.
- 17:37Speaker 1: I want I think that one guy's getting paid, so
- 17:39Speaker 1: the only fight once a year. I get it. I'm
- 17:41Speaker 1: never gonna I'm never gonna go against guys not getting paid.
- 17:44Speaker 1: I can't. I personally cannot do that. But for the
- 17:47Speaker 1: betterment of the sport, I wish there are some perfect
- 17:50Speaker 1: mix of things. However, with all the entities involved, I
- 17:54Speaker 1: don't know what they're prioritizing. It feels like they're prioritizing
- 17:58Speaker 1: the names at the top. Else I was kind of
- 18:00Speaker 1: getting when they fit in, and I'm not a big
- 18:02Speaker 1: fan of that.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Well, let's not forget that Roly fight against Ryan. Was
- 18:06Speaker 2: that really stupid Times Square New York outdoors event funded
- 18:11Speaker 2: by the Saudi's, by Turkey La Shake. And you know,
- 18:14Speaker 2: even though that's that sucked, that was not a good
- 18:16Speaker 2: event pretty much universally disliked. It was still cost a
- 18:21Speaker 2: lot of money. That was a shit little money put in.
- 18:23Speaker 2: So and I think, again, uh, you know, we don't
- 18:27Speaker 2: have to get into the full conversation about this, because
- 18:28Speaker 2: we talked about it. But yeah, the Saudi money into
- 18:30Speaker 2: boxing and the sports, you know, it's not because necessarily
- 18:33Speaker 2: because of the love of the sport, and that's a
- 18:36Speaker 2: little too much, too much income to funnel in there.
- 18:40Speaker 2: When you're like putting on an event that nobody really liked,
- 18:43Speaker 2: that nobody gets a shit about it, and nobody came
- 18:45Speaker 2: out of there. Nobody came out of the event being like,
- 18:47Speaker 2: holy shit, when is Roly's next fight? You know, holy shit?
- 18:50Speaker 2: When is Yeah? It was it was like a wash?
- 18:53Speaker 1: Why why right?
- 18:54Speaker 2: So yeah, and again didn't help going forward that you know,
- 18:58Speaker 2: Roly shit come out of that hungry, excited for his
- 19:01Speaker 2: next win and you know, just challenging, you know, being
- 19:05Speaker 2: cocky and challenging all the big names that he could
- 19:07Speaker 2: never possibly fight it.
- 19:09Speaker 1: But shot Throll though, I mean over came some speech
- 19:12Speaker 1: issues and whatnot and shout out to him. He's come
- 19:15Speaker 1: a long waist. With that being said, I know he's
- 19:19Speaker 1: not be funny a lot whatnot. But hall of fame question,
- 19:23Speaker 1: he has some nerve nah man like like ta femo
- 19:29Speaker 1: as an argument you can make if you wanted to
- 19:31Speaker 1: convince me he's a Hall of Famer, I at least
- 19:33Speaker 1: listen to you. I don't. So here's him. I think
- 19:35Speaker 1: of hall of fames. I think of hall of fames.
- 19:37Speaker 1: That means you gotta be like a this sport couldn't
- 19:40Speaker 1: have went on went out with you, like we can't
- 19:42Speaker 1: mention the sport, but eventually something across your name. I
- 19:45Speaker 1: don't think about that with these two guys. But I
- 19:47Speaker 1: can listen with your femal because he's done some stuff
- 19:50Speaker 1: with his career. I can kind of sort of you know,
- 19:53Speaker 1: I can kind of sort of you know, I could
- 19:56Speaker 1: listen to your case. But with some of these guys
- 19:58Speaker 1: like nah, nah yeah.
- 20:00Speaker 2: And you know, winning against Lumachenko, I think it definitely
- 20:03Speaker 2: gives really really big, big pushed or something like that.
- 20:09Speaker 2: And and let's not forget you know, Puerto Rican and
- 20:11Speaker 2: New York. You know, he's away gonna draw a crowd.
- 20:13Speaker 2: He's got his huge fan, so he's an undeniable star.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Uh you know, whether you think he's you know, an
- 20:20Speaker 2: amazing box or shooty box or whatever the hell, you know,
- 20:23Speaker 2: he can't deny his talented So I could definitely see that.
- 20:25Speaker 2: And again, I like Rollie personally. I think he's very likable.
- 20:28Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not here to pooh pooh on him.
- 20:32Speaker 2: You know, I want the best for him. I I
- 20:34Speaker 2: would be happy if he wins. I I'm a big
- 20:37Speaker 2: rooterer for the underdog. You know what I mean. So
- 20:40Speaker 2: I just I don't really see it. You know, if
- 20:42Speaker 2: he really really stepped up his game and trained hard
- 20:45Speaker 2: and prepared, and you know tell Femo is a guy
- 20:47Speaker 2: with a with a lot of a lot of tape
- 20:50Speaker 2: you can watch and study. I'm not saying it's impossible.
- 20:53Speaker 2: I just also am saying it's not that I went
- 20:56Speaker 2: it's not impossible. I'm just saying I understand why he's
- 20:59Speaker 2: the underdog, why he's the why tel Fima is a favorite.
- 21:01Speaker 2: So but I'm excited at the end of the day,
- 21:03Speaker 2: no matter what I want to I want an active,
- 21:05Speaker 2: exciting fight. Tel Fimo always puts on a good show
- 21:07Speaker 2: in the ring. If really keeps up with them, and
- 21:09Speaker 2: you know it's there's a lot of punches being thrown,
- 21:13Speaker 2: I'm gonna be happier than pick a ship. So with
- 21:16Speaker 2: that said, yeah, we're It's about all I wanted to
- 21:19Speaker 2: bring up just a couple couple of quick things that
- 21:22Speaker 2: you know, we had some fights announced that again. This
- 21:25Speaker 2: year has been kind of crushing it from summer on.
- 21:27Speaker 2: We got him on Lavarette coming back against a SHACKI
- 21:29Speaker 2: Foster in October in San Antonio, which is cool as hell.
- 21:33Speaker 2: And now I don't care about Fury versus Joshua at all,
- 21:38Speaker 2: but they're both names, and you know, they got slotted
- 21:41Speaker 2: in for November, so at the very least there's more
- 21:43Speaker 2: boxing matches to be made, you know.
- 21:46Speaker 1: So yeah, the thing that's good about those kind of
- 21:49Speaker 1: matches is that usually undercarssly pretty good. You know, the
- 21:52Speaker 1: main event what it is, the undercar got somebody that's
- 21:55Speaker 1: good on there, or got some oven coming that's on there,
- 21:58Speaker 1: So that's a good thing too.
- 22:00Speaker 2: I'm not excited to watch Fury and Joshua fight al
- 22:02Speaker 2: but I'm excited to see a night of good boxing.
- 22:05Speaker 2: So yeah.
- 22:06Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:06Speaker 2: And also I remember when they were going at it
- 22:08Speaker 2: their tyson Fury or something like Anthony Joshuy. It's been
- 22:11Speaker 2: ten years in the making. I'm like, yeah, I know,
- 22:13Speaker 2: that's why nobody gives a shit, and.
- 22:15Speaker 1: It should be in the UK some we're not New York.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole on the conversation. We'll talk about
- 22:20Speaker 2: that as its closer. But yeah, what a great year
- 22:23Speaker 2: so far for boxing, and hopefully it gets you know,
- 22:25Speaker 2: even better. Uh, But that's all we got for today.
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