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Massive Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? Happy Sweet sixteen?
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Speaker 2: Elite eight.
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Speaker 1: The tournament is coming down the home stretch. But today
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk some football because I'm Jonas three and
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Speaker 1: out and we're gonna do a big mail bag at
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Speaker 1: John middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. Next week,
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Speaker 1: you know, the owners meetings actually in my backyard, so
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Speaker 1: all the coaches have to talk over the course of
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Speaker 1: thing on Monday and Tuesday. So we're gonna get a
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Speaker 1: ton of stories, a ton of content out of that.
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Speaker 1: Excited at the gms are all coming as well, so
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Speaker 1: that there are gonna be a lot.
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Speaker 2: Of stories flying and.
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Speaker 1: Excited to talk about whatever comes out of the Biltmore
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Speaker 1: Hotel where.
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Speaker 2: The owners meetings are.
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Speaker 1: But today again just big mail bag fire in those dms.
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Speaker 2: Let's dive right in.
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Speaker 1: We will start with with rio question for the pod.
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Speaker 1: Just saw a throwback clip when the Raiders drafted Janikowski
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Speaker 1: in the first round with the seventeenth overall pick. How
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Speaker 1: good would a kicker have to be in order for
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Speaker 1: that ever to happen again? And I know there's a
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Speaker 1: better chance of me hitting the fucking powerball than this happening.
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Speaker 1: But how once in a hundred years good would a
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Speaker 1: kicker have to be in order for them to get
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Speaker 1: drafted in the top ten. I think we have some
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Speaker 1: recent history of guys getting drafted on the second Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in the third round. You know Agilar the kicker from
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Speaker 1: Florida State which he was an all time great college kicker, disaster,
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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh death taxes, and Jake Moody the forty nine
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Speaker 1: ers drafted him in the third round disaster. My personal philosophy,
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Speaker 1: I don't care if the guy looks like the greatest
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Speaker 1: kicker of all time. I don't think I would draft
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Speaker 1: a kicker. I'm drafted other positions. I don't think I
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Speaker 1: draft a kicker or a punter. And I just think
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Speaker 1: we have too many examples of undrafted free agents of
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Speaker 1: guys going on to be.
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Speaker 2: Really good players.
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Speaker 1: Pretty sure polarizing guy now, but justin Tucker undrafted free
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Speaker 1: agent out of Texas. I just think there's a long
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Speaker 1: history of guys getting drafted and being disasters. I've told
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Speaker 1: this story before, Derek or Jake. Wasn't Derrick Henry something
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Speaker 1: Henry that we drafted. We let David Akers go. When
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Speaker 1: I was with the Eagles who went to the forty
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Speaker 1: nine ers and in a Pro Bowl season, and we
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Speaker 1: drafted this kid out of Nebraska, Billy Henry something Henry,
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Speaker 1: and you could tell, like the second day of training
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Speaker 1: camp like this is a disaster. And I think, and
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Speaker 1: he got drafted I think in the fourth round. I
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Speaker 1: think anytime you're like a top hundred pick a kicker,
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Speaker 1: you're obviously automatically the starter, but there's like a pressure
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Speaker 1: to your training camp kicks now with social media. When
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Speaker 1: I was on the radio station that had the Raiders,
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Speaker 1: we used to go to NAPA at training camp, and
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Speaker 1: by then, you know, Janikowski originally was like this chubby, drunk,
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Speaker 1: big leg guy.
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Speaker 2: By then he was jacked.
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Speaker 1: So when you go to training camp, he would always
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Speaker 1: you know, we'd get there out on the field like
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Speaker 1: seven am. They wouldn't practice till you know, I don't
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Speaker 1: know ten He'd always be in the in the weight room,
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Speaker 1: this kind of makeshift outdoor weight room, and he was
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Speaker 1: just jacked with a huge ass, like half a tent
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Speaker 1: of Copenhagen in his mouth. He would never come on
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Speaker 1: the radio show, but he was cool.
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Speaker 2: He'd like joke around.
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Speaker 1: My memories of Sea Bass. By then, wasn't the most
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Speaker 1: reliable kicker. Still had a huge leg, but missed a
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Speaker 1: lot of field goals. Now the Raiders was so bad
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Speaker 1: they weren't playing in big games.
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Speaker 2: Do you know bad?
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Speaker 1: You would have to be as a franchise, which they
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Speaker 1: were for you know, fifteen plus years for your kicker
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Speaker 1: to be your most famous player for like half of that.
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Speaker 1: You know, nam D was probably one of the most
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Speaker 1: famous guys JaMarcus Russell, but Sea Bass was right up there.
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Speaker 1: So unique set of circumstances. I don't think we'll ever
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Speaker 1: see that before. Honestly, if you asked me what pick
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Speaker 1: Sea Bass was, I wouldn't have guest picked seventeen. I
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Speaker 1: would have guest picked twenty eight. But I don't think
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Speaker 1: we ever see that ever again. Gotta get a booger
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Speaker 1: hanging in my nose. Major League Baseball's twenty twenty nine
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Speaker 1: deal is a once in a generation reset opportunity. Instead
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Speaker 1: of one hundred and sixty two low stakes games shifted
4:47
Speaker 1: to ninety weekend series format team play Friday through Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Standings are built on winning the series, not individual games.
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Speaker 1: About thirteen hundred and fifty total games in instead of
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Speaker 1: twenty four and thirty less inventory, dramatically higher per game value.
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Speaker 1: Picture Sunday Night Baseball in August, two teams tied one
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Speaker 1: to one, playoff positioning on the line. Best pictures ready,
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Speaker 1: whole country watching high profile series. Business case. Kill the RSNS,
5:19
Speaker 1: They're dead, No blackout national package. The NFL does about
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Speaker 1: fifty million per game in media. Major League Baseball is
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Speaker 1: about one point five. You don't need to close that gap.
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Speaker 1: Just move toward it.
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Speaker 2: It allergies are killing me.
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Speaker 1: I would say, you're onto something like I don't think
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Speaker 1: it's a bad idea. Here's the problem. Your idea would
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Speaker 1: kill the starting pitching market and the union in baseball.
5:49
Speaker 1: The players union is extremely powerful. They would never go
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Speaker 1: toward I would say taking money out of players pockets
5:59
Speaker 1: because you.
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Speaker 2: Would need a rotation anymore.
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Speaker 1: You would just you would just basically need three guys.
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Speaker 1: Now you might pay those guys more, but you would
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Speaker 1: no longer have fourth and fifth starters. You just have
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Speaker 1: much bigger bullpens. So and the other thing is like
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Speaker 1: it or not. And we talked about this yesterday or
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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, that these owners just aren't
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Speaker 1: gonna give up the inventory of home games. They're simply not.
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Speaker 1: Even though your idea is good. I mean, these are
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Speaker 1: a sense I think I just saw the Brewers are
6:33
Speaker 1: you know, in Milwaukee, set to lose twenty plus million
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Speaker 1: dollars this year. I mean, all these local networks are
6:39
Speaker 1: just gonna be extinct over the course of the next
6:41
Speaker 1: couple of years. Beside maybe a couple, even the Lakers,
6:46
Speaker 1: who I think make more like in a week than
6:49
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies made all year long. I think I've heard
6:52
Speaker 1: Winhorse say that that situation's in trouble. Part of the
6:56
Speaker 1: reason why Jeanie Buss, you know, backstabbed or you hear
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Speaker 1: loser brother. But I I don't know. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think all these ideas, it's fun to talk about, but
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Speaker 1: none of these leagues. I mean, it's like the NBA
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Speaker 1: that they have a tanking problem. The majority of their
7:15
Speaker 1: games are not watchable, and they're like, let's add two teams.
7:19
Speaker 2: Let's add two teams. Let me think about that.
7:23
Speaker 1: And they're going to why because they're gonna get I
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Speaker 1: don't know, twelve to fifteen million dollars total paid out
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Speaker 1: between all the owners. And I'm pretty sure I think
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Speaker 1: Winhorse has said this too. I mean, guy's win Horse
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Speaker 1: bundle of information. They don't have to share that with
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Speaker 1: the players. So whatever the total amount comes out if
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Speaker 1: they add two teams, let's just say average six and
7:48
Speaker 1: a half seven each, so like four billion dollars, they
7:53
Speaker 1: don't have to share any of that money. That just
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Speaker 1: is an influx of cash with the players. So I
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Speaker 1: think that it's all about money man, And I hear you.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea. But I think one
8:10
Speaker 1: thing we've seen with the big inventory sports is that
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Speaker 1: they don't even contemplate cutting games. I mean, Steve Kerr
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Speaker 1: a couple like a month ago, was like pounding the table,
8:20
Speaker 1: like we need to cut ten games out this this
8:22
Speaker 1: schedule is ridiculous. This is a guy who's been playing basketball,
8:25
Speaker 1: you know, at the highest level since like the mid
8:28
Speaker 1: eighties for Arizona and obviously came into the NBA in
8:31
Speaker 1: the late eighties, early nineties, and I don't think he's
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Speaker 1: just hey, he's got a front row seat for it
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Speaker 1: now as a GM and as head coach. He's like,
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Speaker 1: this is crazy. And you look around there's injuries left
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Speaker 1: and right. But no, I've never heard one owners like
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Speaker 1: that's a good idea. Yeah, let's kind of like sixty
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Speaker 1: seven games. Like, No, that's they're just like add teams,
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Speaker 1: add more games. Everyone's in the business of adding more
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Speaker 1: games for maintaining their inventory. John your rant on how
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Speaker 1: college kids don't care about the history of the programs
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Speaker 1: was hilarious and one hundred percent factual. I like this guy.
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Speaker 1: No different in the private sector. The college sport purists
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Speaker 1: kill me with the traditional nonsense. Nobody cares if it
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Speaker 1: makes dollars. It makes sense. No question for the mailbag,
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Speaker 1: but wanted to thanks for always advocating to work.
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Speaker 2: In something you like. Blah blah blah blah. I appreciate
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Speaker 2: the note.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't even a question, but I just the the the
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Speaker 1: outdated nature of life that the history at Carolina the
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Dean Smith, Vince Carter, No one cares what's
9:45
Speaker 1: your nil budget? If it's high, people will come if
9:48
Speaker 1: it's not Nato Saint leaving Alabama, right, Dusty may ain't
9:53
Speaker 1: leave in Michigan.
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Speaker 2: They don't have to.
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Speaker 1: If even be a top two or three seed at
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Speaker 1: a football school, I'm gonna stand by this. If you
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Speaker 1: con consistently be a top four seed and some years
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Speaker 1: be a one or two, but every year be like
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Speaker 1: a consistent top ten team, that's an elite job because
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Speaker 1: they leave you alone and then one year you make
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Speaker 1: the Final four. He win a national championship. Like the
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Speaker 1: dude at Florida, You're like a made man on campus.
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Speaker 2: They're already. They just all they're talking.
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Speaker 1: About is like football recruiting, the football schedule, and you're winning,
10:21
Speaker 1: they'll just throw you some more bones and leave you alone.
10:24
Speaker 1: You're you're at Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, duke, they are
10:30
Speaker 1: in your shit like a football coach. You know you're
10:35
Speaker 1: John Sumrow is gonna learn. They're gonna be all Sark.
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Speaker 1: I saw a picture today of Sark at the Texas
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Speaker 1: basketball game, and you can just see like the stress
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Speaker 1: on his face.
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Speaker 2: This is exhausting.
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Speaker 1: It's like they gave me a fifty million dollars roster.
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Speaker 1: I better make the playoffs. Can you talk about this
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Speaker 1: on one of your episodes and how hard it is
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Speaker 1: to be a rookie sometimes? Do you think Mendoza will struggle?
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Speaker 1: He sent me this picture, says Bryce Young's rookie weapons.
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Speaker 1: After just two seasons later, DJ Shark retired, Jonathan Mingo
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Speaker 1: one catch, TMG three catches, twenty twenty four, zero and
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Speaker 1: twenty five. Feelan retired, Hayden Hurst retired, Miles Sanders free agent. Well,
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Speaker 1: typically when you're drafted really high, you are going.
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Speaker 2: To a terrible team.
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Speaker 1: So like when you're drafted high, there's a reason that
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman. You just look at the
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Speaker 1: history of guys number one, Matt Stafford, Jared Goff. Usually
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Speaker 1: their rookie year, that team is going to suck. So like,
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Speaker 1: I just think that comes with the territory. The difference
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Speaker 1: with the Raiders is they have two top I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't I forget exactly what pick Bowers was, but
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Speaker 1: you might as well consider him a top ten pick,
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Speaker 1: brock Bowers, who was like the best player in the
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Speaker 1: SEC for multiple years, and we're gonna find out truly
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Speaker 1: how good this guy is. But they drafted a running
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Speaker 1: back really high. So, I mean, he does have a
12:06
Speaker 1: couple pieces on the offense, and he has a left tackle,
12:09
Speaker 1: and he has a coach who's like family businesses to
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Speaker 1: run the offense and just was the.
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Speaker 2: Coordinator for the Super Bowl team.
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Speaker 1: So I actually think melk Next question about mel Kuiper,
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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza goes to a decent, decent spot and they
12:29
Speaker 1: in theory loaded up the defense, especially with Crosby coming back.
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Speaker 1: Do you think this from Will mel Kuiper should be
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame based upon his contributions to
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Speaker 1: the game. He basically made the NFL draft something when
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Speaker 1: it was nothing. To this day, his enthusiasm, energy and
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Speaker 1: knowledge are incredible. Hard to not love him. Yes, now,
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Speaker 1: you can't put mel Kuiper in the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: before Bill Belichick, but I one hundred mel Kuiper deserves
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Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: He is a integral figure in the business that is
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Speaker 1: the off season of the NFL, specifically the draft.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: It's like when you there are certain people like you
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Speaker 1: you'd think college football, like, I mean, a lot of
13:15
Speaker 1: coaches come to mind, but to me, Lee Corso is
13:18
Speaker 1: a guy that comes to mind. I think college basketball,
13:21
Speaker 1: like Dick fi Tael is one of the first guys
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Speaker 1: that come to my mind when I think the when
13:25
Speaker 1: you just say NFL draft, like, who do you think of?
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Speaker 2: I would say mel Kuiper.
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Speaker 1: Would be on the short list. So yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: I would put mel Kuiper in the Hall of Fame. Willie,
13:37
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know exactly how that works. And
13:40
Speaker 1: you know, contributors, remember the great mel Kuiper bit was
13:46
Speaker 1: it was it the l Way Draft, So it would
13:51
Speaker 1: have been like the mid eighties eighty three when the
13:54
Speaker 1: Colts GM who was someone's dad?
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Speaker 2: I forget the guys, It's it's someone famous as dad.
14:02
Speaker 2: I guess he was famous.
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Speaker 1: Then I forget the guy's name, but he goes on
14:05
Speaker 1: the rant about who the hell's mel Kiper?
14:09
Speaker 2: Who was that guy? Question?
14:12
Speaker 1: Obviously, the Dolphins signed Willis, but have either traded away
14:16
Speaker 1: or released the majority of the talent on their team.
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Speaker 1: Let's say Malik plays well, but the team only wins
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Speaker 1: a handful of games and they get the number one pick.
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Speaker 1: Are they taking a quarterback with that pick? Or would
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Speaker 1: they keep building around Malik Willis. I think we'd have
14:31
Speaker 1: to get a little more specific. You know, if you
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Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick, you usually play pretty shitty.
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Speaker 1: Like you watch the Titans this year. They were bad,
14:40
Speaker 1: you know, and for the most part showed flashes, but
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Speaker 1: he wasn't good either the quarterback. So it's essentially kind
14:48
Speaker 1: of like when Sean McVeigh got to the Rams with
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff. A lot of people now Jared Goff was
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Speaker 1: worse as a rookie than cam Ward showed.
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Speaker 2: Less, but like that wasn't view.
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Speaker 1: It is like, God, this is this is an easy gig,
15:03
Speaker 1: and obviously he got golf rolling right away. But I
15:08
Speaker 1: think it also depends on like, is there any chance
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Speaker 1: that someone would have the number one overall pick this
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Speaker 1: year and not take Fernando Mendoza. I just I have
15:23
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing it. I also get very uncomfortable
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Speaker 1: with people going this has a chance to be the
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Speaker 1: best quarterback draft ever. Like Listen, I was probably too
15:35
Speaker 1: harsh on arch Right, clearly banged up. As the season
15:39
Speaker 1: went on, he.
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Speaker 2: Played much better.
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Speaker 1: But this notion that he's the number one overall pick,
15:45
Speaker 1: we have a long fucking way to go. And I
15:48
Speaker 1: like Todd mcshaye, but I've heard him throw that around
15:50
Speaker 1: a couple times, it's like, let's just relax a little bit.
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Speaker 1: And this notion that this quarterback draft is all time great,
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Speaker 1: I mean we say that every year.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean Nus s Meyer was a locked top ten pick.
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Speaker 1: The dude was bench by the end of the season
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Speaker 1: and injured, so you just never know. I am like,
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Speaker 1: I think you have a pretty good idea with established
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Speaker 1: position players as long as it say's healthy. Jeremiah Smith
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Speaker 1: is a top ten pick, right And I'm sure I
16:18
Speaker 1: could think of.
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Speaker 2: There are probably some other position.
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Speaker 1: Players around the country at Ohio State, at Georgia or
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Speaker 1: something that are like lock really high picks. But I
16:28
Speaker 1: think with quarterbacks, this notion that the trajectory is always up,
16:34
Speaker 1: it's just not the case. And the other thing is
16:36
Speaker 1: you had guys coming out of nowhere. I mean Baker Mayfield,
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. There were years when those guys were not
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Speaker 1: discussed as top one hundred picks before the season started.
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Speaker 2: And then there are some.
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Speaker 1: Years like when Chris Mortensen rip tweeted out right after
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Speaker 1: the draft that a general manager told him that Josh
16:58
Speaker 1: Allen will be the number one pick the following year.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't the number one pick, but went seventh turns
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Speaker 1: out to be a Hall of Famer, So I don't know.
17:06
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19:42
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20:10
Speaker 1: games and you start watching and putting grades on them.
20:12
Speaker 1: And over the course of the season, the area scout,
20:16
Speaker 1: the general manager, the scouting director, there'll be a lot
20:20
Speaker 1: of crossover grades. So by the time you get to
20:26
Speaker 1: a couple weeks before the combine, maybe even late in
20:29
Speaker 1: the season, you start doing some tentative draft meetings and
20:33
Speaker 1: you start kind of gauging where you have the guys
20:36
Speaker 1: on the board. And then by the time maybe a
20:39
Speaker 1: couple weeks before the combine, you've all kind of put
20:42
Speaker 1: together a loose board based on the grades you have
20:46
Speaker 1: as a staff, and then you kind of work through it.
20:49
Speaker 1: So it's not like one guy's now. I can't speak
20:52
Speaker 1: to every team, but it's usually like talk through placing
20:56
Speaker 1: them up there.
20:57
Speaker 2: Where do we see this.
20:59
Speaker 1: Some people are gonna, some people are not, But it's
21:02
Speaker 1: over the course of like a bunch of people getting involved,
21:05
Speaker 1: and where it gets fucked up is like by the
21:07
Speaker 1: time give or take now, the scouting staff has a
21:11
Speaker 1: pretty good idea. We like this guy in the second,
21:13
Speaker 1: we like this guy in the fourth, we.
21:15
Speaker 2: Like this guy.
21:16
Speaker 1: Wherever the coaches get involved, and that's where curveballs get set.
21:21
Speaker 1: So I would say, tentatively, going into the combine, you
21:26
Speaker 1: feel pretty good. Most teams, you know, I think make
21:30
Speaker 1: you lock in a grade as a scout, as an
21:32
Speaker 1: area scout, as an over the top scout, meaning you
21:35
Speaker 1: do all the big schools as a college scouting director,
21:39
Speaker 1: like in the middle of January. So you can't go
21:43
Speaker 1: to the combine see a guy work out well or
21:46
Speaker 1: work out poorly, or interview poorly in dramatically change your grade,
21:51
Speaker 1: not saying that that won't influence where you guys put
21:53
Speaker 1: the guy on the board. But I think teams get
21:57
Speaker 1: very hesitant of like overreactions or knee jerk stuff. But
22:01
Speaker 1: the other thing is medical and character stuff. I would
22:06
Speaker 1: say now through over the course of the next three
22:09
Speaker 1: or four weeks is really getting factored into. So there
22:11
Speaker 1: are all these variables. It's like, listen, we think so
22:16
Speaker 1: and so is like a lock somewhere top of the
22:20
Speaker 1: second round, like he could sneak into the first but
22:24
Speaker 1: he's a top forty five pick, right, probably somewhere between
22:28
Speaker 1: thirty and forty five, but has some major question marks
22:33
Speaker 1: off the field, right, we got work ethic questions, we
22:36
Speaker 1: got coaches are down on them. You know, he might
22:40
Speaker 1: have had an incident, let's say, and again, this is
22:43
Speaker 1: a hypothetical, made up player that's kind of on the
22:46
Speaker 1: GM the head coach and the owner to kind.
22:47
Speaker 2: Of figure out.
22:48
Speaker 1: But it's like, as a scout, you're like, hey, this
22:51
Speaker 1: guy is a lock, you know, multi contract impact player
22:56
Speaker 1: with the opportunity to be like a Pro Bowl player, right,
23:00
Speaker 1: but you gotta be careful. It's like some guys like
23:02
Speaker 1: turn their life around all of a sudden. You get
23:03
Speaker 1: them to the league and he's perfect and vice versa.
23:05
Speaker 2: Some guys who.
23:06
Speaker 1: Haven't really been a problem get the league and kind of,
23:09
Speaker 1: I don't know, start not acting well. So it's every
23:14
Speaker 1: team does a little bit different, but it's it's a
23:16
Speaker 1: pretty fluid process. So like you know, sometimes coach speak
23:19
Speaker 1: like we're still working our way through it.
23:21
Speaker 2: That's kind of true.
23:23
Speaker 1: And the coaches that have the juice, like a Kyle
23:27
Speaker 1: Shanahan Sean Payton, those motherfuckers will move shit around when
23:33
Speaker 1: you ain't looking, which can be good and not. They're
23:37
Speaker 1: not always wrong, but they can also make mistakes. How
23:42
Speaker 1: are the Chiefs the favorites to win the AFC West
23:44
Speaker 1: over Denver? I understand it's Mahomes and Reid, but the
23:47
Speaker 1: Chiefs might have four guys that would start on Denver's
23:50
Speaker 1: roster coming off a poor season and a torn acl make.
23:54
Speaker 2: It makes sense.
23:55
Speaker 1: It's all about odds in gambling. And if I made
24:00
Speaker 1: the Chiefs five to one to win the division like
24:03
Speaker 1: the de Broncos War last year, do you know how
24:06
Speaker 1: much money would come in on the Chiefs, which would
24:10
Speaker 1: then give a sports book in the casinos a lot
24:15
Speaker 1: of exposure to something they're not comfortable with having. Exposure too,
24:20
Speaker 1: so it's not it's odds are typically made where I
24:25
Speaker 1: can get the most action on both sides. They don't
24:28
Speaker 1: want it one sided, so they are on tilt if
24:31
Speaker 1: it goes long. Longtime Listener actually grew up in San
24:36
Speaker 1: Luis Obispo.
24:37
Speaker 2: That's where I went to college.
24:38
Speaker 1: Live in Maryland now and think about those Firestone Try
24:41
Speaker 1: Tip sandwiches.
24:42
Speaker 2: All the time me as well.
24:45
Speaker 1: Elite's Greatest Firestone in San Luis Obispo and Doghouse Grill
24:50
Speaker 1: in Fresno are the same restaurants, is obviously called two
24:53
Speaker 1: separate things owned by the same guy. Dave Billingsley has
24:56
Speaker 1: the greatest tri tip sandwich you will ever have, and
24:59
Speaker 1: anyone that's ever had those tri tip sandwiches will agree
25:02
Speaker 1: with me, cause I think anytime you hear that, you're like, Okay,
25:05
Speaker 1: I've greatest slice of pizza, greatest cheeseburg. I'm telling you,
25:09
Speaker 1: this is the greatest tri tip sandwich you have ever
25:13
Speaker 1: or will ever have had. Their actual the manager in Fresno, Maddie,
25:19
Speaker 1: who I used to work with when I was at
25:21
Speaker 1: Fresno State, because we used to get tritip sandwiches for
25:24
Speaker 1: the team sometimes like on Friday night before games is
25:29
Speaker 1: doing like a five to seven right now for some.
25:32
Speaker 2: For some fraud.
25:34
Speaker 1: But Maddie was always cool to me. I always liked him,
25:37
Speaker 1: knew his wife good. Yeah, I had you, budd, He's
25:40
Speaker 1: he's he's in the clink right now. Was just listening
25:45
Speaker 1: to your JSN podcast and you're talking about Jack's great name.
25:49
Speaker 1: By the way, trouble sleeping. My first son, Calvin also
25:53
Speaker 1: was a nightmare up until about ten weeks.
25:56
Speaker 2: He's twelve weeks old.
25:58
Speaker 1: Now at ten weeks we got him the Halo Baby
26:01
Speaker 1: Merlin sleepsuit and now naps four to five times a
26:06
Speaker 1: day in his bassinet and sleeps for five to seven
26:09
Speaker 1: hours straight.
26:10
Speaker 2: Here's a link.
26:13
Speaker 1: I now see this looks like an ad, but I
26:15
Speaker 1: promise you I'm just a normal thirty year old, first
26:18
Speaker 1: time dad. I appreciate that. I today it kind of
26:22
Speaker 1: hit me. I was like, I got nothing. Mentally, I'm
26:25
Speaker 1: shooting blanks. I don't care how many peptides and nad
26:29
Speaker 1: pluses and coffee cold bruise I drink like.
26:33
Speaker 2: I'm just like I'm exhausted.
26:36
Speaker 1: And every once in a while, those two three in
26:38
Speaker 1: the morning, now he just.
26:39
Speaker 2: He wakes up. He's gotta eat. He's gotta eat.
26:41
Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean, I at eight, nine, ten weeks,
26:44
Speaker 1: you're hopefully getting right over that mountaintop. But yeah, I
26:50
Speaker 1: don't even I couldn't even come up with a fugazi today.
26:53
Speaker 2: I was like, I got nothing. You know.
26:55
Speaker 1: The fugazi is me. The fugazzi is my mind that
26:59
Speaker 1: is not working, that is like please just fire, come on,
27:03
Speaker 1: let's go. But we're we're just grinding our way through it.
27:07
Speaker 2: Again.
27:07
Speaker 1: I have it much better than she does. So yeah,
27:11
Speaker 1: I just can't complain. Just very blessed to have a
27:14
Speaker 1: healthy child. But you do get used to you know,
27:18
Speaker 1: you think back of those times where just on a
27:21
Speaker 1: random day, like Wednesday night, you can just you're like,
27:23
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm exhausted. I'm gonna get in bed at
27:25
Speaker 1: like eight, you know, when you're single or married or whatever,
27:28
Speaker 1: no kids, I'm just gonna get in bed at like
27:30
Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Maybe I'll watch shows till ten. Maybe I'll
27:34
Speaker 1: just go to bed, pop a couple of Melatonins and
27:36
Speaker 1: be out by nine, especially on like a Friday or Saturday.
27:40
Speaker 1: And you know what, I might sleep for twelve hours
27:42
Speaker 1: straight just to recharge the old batteries. That's not even
27:48
Speaker 1: not an option now, it doesn't even cross your mind
27:50
Speaker 1: of like what that would be like. So anyone get
27:54
Speaker 1: in sleep right now. Parents with older kids are just
27:57
Speaker 1: normal humans without kids. I'm jealous, bro, I'm really pretty jealous.
28:03
Speaker 2: What's up? John loved the pot.
28:04
Speaker 1: Hearing you talk more and more about golf had me
28:06
Speaker 1: wondering what your handicap is.
28:08
Speaker 2: How often do you try to play?
28:10
Speaker 1: What are some of the strengths and weaknesses of your
28:12
Speaker 1: game on paper? Right now, I'm a two, but I'm
28:16
Speaker 1: probably I played the other day at Shout sevent Yeah,
28:18
Speaker 1: probably closer to a five. When I'm playing pretty well.
28:22
Speaker 1: I was playing the best golf of my life before
28:24
Speaker 1: Jack and I got down to about a two. You know,
28:27
Speaker 1: with the strengths, I hit it pretty far. Short game sucks.
28:32
Speaker 1: When I'm on I play a little baby cut I
28:35
Speaker 1: played twice in twenty twenty five or twenty six, typically
28:39
Speaker 1: pre child or.
28:40
Speaker 2: Maybe as he gets older, and we start.
28:42
Speaker 1: Playing sometimes like Wednesday or Thursday, just to get out
28:47
Speaker 1: of the house. Usually not during football season because Thursday
28:49
Speaker 1: night football, but like a Tuesday or Wednesday, I'll try
28:51
Speaker 1: to go hit balls, you know, like four or five
28:53
Speaker 1: in the afternoon in the springtime or in the summer,
28:56
Speaker 1: and then typically play either Friday or Saturday. So I
29:00
Speaker 1: probably play golf on average once a week.
29:05
Speaker 2: That was pre child.
29:06
Speaker 1: Now it's you know, I'm going back to back weeks.
29:09
Speaker 1: I played last Saturday, playing again this Saturday. I feel
29:12
Speaker 1: like I just you know, hit the lotto. But she
29:16
Speaker 1: has a friend coming and we got some people coming over,
29:18
Speaker 1: so you know, I can kind of bone out. I
29:22
Speaker 1: just usually when I play, even in Arizona, I mean,
29:25
Speaker 1: unless it's like one hundred and fifty, I walk like
29:27
Speaker 1: I play with guys in a money game sometimes on Saturday,
29:30
Speaker 1: and it could be you know, anything up to like
29:33
Speaker 1: one hundred and five and overall hopping the car. But
29:35
Speaker 1: I just if we're playing on Saturday, I'm carrying my
29:38
Speaker 1: bag and you know, you get a good get a
29:40
Speaker 1: good sweat, you feel like you walked a bunch of steps.
29:44
Speaker 1: It's kind of out there in the sun, so it's
29:47
Speaker 1: popping a bunch of my zones and just enjoying myself.
29:54
Speaker 2: It's really like.
29:54
Speaker 1: One of the only times I'm social during the week,
29:57
Speaker 1: which is weird because I talked for a living, but
30:00
Speaker 1: I'm talking into a computer looking at myself. I know
30:03
Speaker 1: you mentioned several times that your listeners are males, and
30:06
Speaker 1: I'm sure most are, but I am a female that
30:08
Speaker 1: absolutely loves your show. I currently check Netflix or Apple
30:14
Speaker 1: Music for your latest pot Maria watch Out. So you
30:18
Speaker 1: are trying to think of what to call your listeners.
30:20
Speaker 1: How about the Johnnies.
30:24
Speaker 2: Don't hate that. I do have a question.
30:26
Speaker 1: I'm a frustrated charge your fan because they seem to
30:30
Speaker 1: discount shop for the O line and now we seem
30:34
Speaker 1: to be screwed. Any thoughts on free agency for the
30:37
Speaker 1: old line. Well, you have one of the highest paid
30:39
Speaker 1: tackles in the league who got hurt last year. You
30:43
Speaker 1: have a guy that you drafted fifth overall at the
30:45
Speaker 1: other tackle spot who probably could be better than the
30:49
Speaker 1: guy that's making a bunch of money. So you're all
30:51
Speaker 1: in on the two tackle spots. Like I don't know
30:55
Speaker 1: what to tell you on like guards and centers, Like
30:57
Speaker 1: who are you supposed to buy? I would imagine they
31:00
Speaker 1: will invest in in draft that position. I mean, they
31:04
Speaker 1: drafted a running back in the first round last year.
31:06
Speaker 1: They have a high priced quarterback. They have a high
31:09
Speaker 1: priced I mean technically's on a rookie contract now. But
31:12
Speaker 1: slot receiver who's a stud. They drafted what's his name,
31:15
Speaker 1: Trey Harris from Ole Miss last year.
31:18
Speaker 2: So to me, like, you can draft some offensive lineman
31:20
Speaker 2: this year.
31:21
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that's gonna be not concerning,
31:24
Speaker 1: but you just never know until it plays out, is
31:27
Speaker 1: what's the defensive coordinator replacement for Jesse Minter? Because Jesse Mentor,
31:32
Speaker 1: like Mike McDonald, was just a big time coordinator and
31:35
Speaker 1: sometimes when you try to replace that guy, it's not
31:37
Speaker 1: quite the same. And John Harbaugh I would tell you that,
31:40
Speaker 1: and I think Jim Harbaugh is about to find that
31:42
Speaker 1: out potentially.
31:43
Speaker 2: Who knows?
31:45
Speaker 1: What is one event sporting event that you want to
31:48
Speaker 1: attend or recommend everyone trying to attend at least once
31:53
Speaker 1: minus the Indy five hundred, Memorial Day weekend, fast cars,
31:56
Speaker 1: patriotism concerts and booze not much better than at There
32:01
Speaker 1: are things that I've never attended. Did I want to attend?
32:05
Speaker 1: I would say the Kentucky Derby, the Masters I've never
32:10
Speaker 1: been to. You know, an Indy five hundred, a NASCAR race,
32:14
Speaker 1: I would love to do that.
32:17
Speaker 2: I've been to. Obviously, you know.
32:19
Speaker 1: Playoff baseball games, World Series, NBA Finals, been to the
32:24
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, been to playoff games, those are all cool.
32:27
Speaker 1: I've never been to the Final four. I've never been
32:30
Speaker 1: to a college football playoff game. I one thing I
32:33
Speaker 1: would love to do is just go to an SEC
32:35
Speaker 1: regular season game, so that that you know, my first
32:39
Speaker 1: inclined to go Ole Miss, but you know, I'll.
32:42
Speaker 2: Bring my wife.
32:43
Speaker 1: I don't know if my child could go, but I
32:45
Speaker 1: Ole Miss in the Grove would be one I would
32:47
Speaker 1: want to do. University of Tennessee Knoxville would be one
32:51
Speaker 1: I would like to do. Georgia lsu Bama, I mean
32:54
Speaker 1: he's I would love to go to an SEC football game,
32:58
Speaker 1: a Duke basketball game, Eglar season game would be really fun.
33:02
Speaker 1: Those would be up there on my list. Love the pod,
33:06
Speaker 1: Hope the sleep with the Little One is getting better?
33:08
Speaker 1: The other guy about the baby Merlin Magic Sleepsack. I
33:12
Speaker 1: told actually Marie about this earlier when I was taking
33:14
Speaker 1: the pictures of this. I think you have to wait
33:16
Speaker 1: till they're like twelve weeks to put him in. Funny enough,
33:20
Speaker 1: the person who found the company is no other than
33:23
Speaker 1: Will Howard's mother. Apparently Doylestown pa legend Will was a
33:28
Speaker 1: bad sleeper. Anyway, This leads me to my question. I
33:32
Speaker 1: get that six round picks don't get to start in
33:34
Speaker 1: the NFL, but I feel like the general public has
33:37
Speaker 1: it all backwards on him. Yes, he was a winner
33:40
Speaker 1: Ohio State, but even before then he was a dog
33:43
Speaker 1: at Kansas State. He led Kansas State to a bowl
33:46
Speaker 1: game and won and performed well. Then this year at
33:49
Speaker 1: Ohio State he had similar stats to Mendoza. The year
33:53
Speaker 1: Mendoza's the poster child and Will Howard flies under the radar.
33:56
Speaker 1: I get Ohio State's roster was better, but Indiana was
33:59
Speaker 1: not bad whatsoever. Giants fan, by the way, which is
34:03
Speaker 1: high on Will. Again, I don't think any of you
34:06
Speaker 1: guys are wrong. Right Will's college career. You could argue
34:12
Speaker 1: there's some parallels like bow Knicks. I mean, bo Nicks
34:15
Speaker 1: was a first round pick. Will Howard starts at Kansas State,
34:18
Speaker 1: transferred Ohio State has a bunch of success. Maybe not
34:23
Speaker 1: a great parallel to Bonnicks because bo Nicks kind of
34:25
Speaker 1: got run out of town, but you know what I mean.
34:27
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just trying to talk about guys. He's transferred.
34:30
Speaker 1: So Michael Pennix transfer from Indiana to Washington.
34:33
Speaker 2: I don't know.
34:35
Speaker 1: I can't tell you why people are down on Will Howard.
34:39
Speaker 1: He was obviously really good in that stretch. I do
34:43
Speaker 1: think winning in Ohio state you just don't.
34:46
Speaker 2: Get that much credit for.
34:48
Speaker 1: You really don't fair not But based on how it's
34:54
Speaker 1: going right now, he's gonna have a shot to impress McCarthy.
35:01
Speaker 1: The coffin Corner or the Coffee Club. I don't hate
35:06
Speaker 1: the coffee club. You mentioned needing a name for the
35:10
Speaker 1: podcast followers. What if you merged podcast in middle cough
35:15
Speaker 1: the pod COFs? See, I just you just know when
35:18
Speaker 1: you hear it, the pod coffs I got. My first
35:21
Speaker 1: reaction is no, when can we get some live shows
35:25
Speaker 1: on the books this offseason? Or does your Netflix deal
35:28
Speaker 1: impact that? Well, we've never done a live show. We
35:33
Speaker 1: have it in my contract, you know, because some other
35:36
Speaker 1: people the volume have done them. You know, like I'm
35:41
Speaker 1: trying to think over the course of the last several years,
35:46
Speaker 1: other shows, you know, kind of their business model was
35:49
Speaker 1: built around that. Ours wasn't necessarily. Part of it is
35:52
Speaker 1: that they are pretty labor intensive and pretty costly. So
35:58
Speaker 1: we've just had so much success on the internet. Now
36:00
Speaker 1: I'm never a post I just my fundamental belief is
36:07
Speaker 1: the power that we can distribute doing this, But there
36:12
Speaker 1: is you could argue just value even if you don't
36:16
Speaker 1: even break even if you do a live show.
36:18
Speaker 2: And I mean, how many people.
36:20
Speaker 1: Can we get? Where do we do them? You know,
36:23
Speaker 1: where do we go? You know, this is a pretty
36:26
Speaker 1: like the way this distributes, it's pretty national. It's not
36:29
Speaker 1: like I used to do a lot of live shows
36:32
Speaker 1: and like a live.
36:35
Speaker 2: I forget exactly the word that was used.
36:39
Speaker 1: But in radio, you know, through sponsors, you would do
36:44
Speaker 1: especially we were all over the Bay Area. We would
36:46
Speaker 1: do a live show from games. We would do live
36:48
Speaker 1: shows from different bars, but the radio show was based
36:53
Speaker 1: in that area, so it was like a you knew
36:55
Speaker 1: exactly where you were. In these situations, it makes it
36:58
Speaker 1: a little more complicated. Again, I don't even want to
37:01
Speaker 1: sound negative to this or then I'm anti the idea
37:04
Speaker 1: because we have semi broached it before. It just hasn't
37:09
Speaker 1: really gained that much steam because, like you said, live shows,
37:13
Speaker 1: I don't even know where you are. So if I
37:15
Speaker 1: did one, what if I didn't do them.
37:17
Speaker 2: Where you were? If you were Cincinnati.
37:21
Speaker 1: This is an old question, but I think it was
37:23
Speaker 1: a pretty good one. Would you listen to Spy Tech
37:26
Speaker 1: and the Raiders.
37:28
Speaker 2: This was before.
37:28
Speaker 1: The Ravens backed out of the trade, and they offered
37:33
Speaker 1: you their two first round picks this year, they are
37:35
Speaker 1: two first round picks next year for Joe Burrow. That
37:38
Speaker 1: would give Cincinnati six first round picks the next two seasons,
37:42
Speaker 1: and they get for Danda Mendoz as their next quarterback
37:45
Speaker 1: if he had still you know, if Eric de Coastad
37:51
Speaker 1: not backed out of the deal. I think the Bengals
37:53
Speaker 1: reaction to that is still no, because they think if
37:57
Speaker 1: he's healthy this year, they can compete for a championship
38:00
Speaker 1: and for his greate as picks are and you know,
38:03
Speaker 1: having a rookie contract, there is no guarantee that Fernando
38:06
Speaker 1: Mendez is going to be a top ten quarterback. You know,
38:09
Speaker 1: when Joe Burrow is healthy, is one of the best
38:10
Speaker 1: players in the league, not just quarterbacks in the league,
38:13
Speaker 1: one of the best players, and you have awesome offensive players.
38:18
Speaker 1: I think they would say no to that. Just wanted
38:21
Speaker 1: to let you know I love the pods, especially go Low,
38:24
Speaker 1: and I love your honest takes. Also congrats on the kid.
38:28
Speaker 2: Nice guy here.
38:31
Speaker 1: If by some miracle you see this, do you have
38:33
Speaker 1: any advice for someone with no experience or degree who
38:38
Speaker 1: wants to get into the sports media. I've been asked
38:42
Speaker 1: this question over the years, and there has never been
38:45
Speaker 1: a better time to have the options to try stuff.
38:52
Speaker 1: You know, twenty years ago, if you didn't get a
38:54
Speaker 1: radio gig or couldn't work on local TV, like you
38:56
Speaker 1: just couldn't break into the business, you can just start
38:59
Speaker 1: doing like Instagram reels or TikTok takes, start a YouTube channel,
39:05
Speaker 1: and just start a podcast or a broadcast, whatever you
39:08
Speaker 1: want to do. So I don't know specifically what you
39:11
Speaker 1: want to get into, but this would be the same
39:14
Speaker 1: advice for someone at college studying to be some broadcaster,
39:19
Speaker 1: some podcast or some you know, journalists whatever. Utilize all
39:25
Speaker 1: these avenues. Even if you're like, I don't even like
39:29
Speaker 1: social media, We'll just use it simply for work.
39:32
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I do. I use my social
39:34
Speaker 2: media for work. I don't really like social media in a.
39:38
Speaker 1: Perfect world, like I wouldn't want to have to get
39:40
Speaker 1: on at all, but it, you know, I use it
39:43
Speaker 1: to distribute my content to Obviously, we put socials up
39:48
Speaker 1: through there for people to discover, and it's no different
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Speaker 1: if you were starting at scratch, it would be the
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Speaker 1: same idea LinkedIn Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube.
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Speaker 2: You name it. Just start doing shit.
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Speaker 1: Would be what I would recommend. Been a listener since
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Speaker 1: eighteen writer or Die been a longtime Bills fan and
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Speaker 1: wanted to get more in depth perspective on Joe Brady
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Speaker 1: being hired as the coach. When he was hired, I
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Speaker 1: didn't feel excited or upset over the move. I wanted
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Speaker 1: to get your input instead of the guys who covered
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Speaker 1: the Bills. I will say I am very happy with
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Speaker 1: the other coaching moves Brady has made, like hiring Jim Leonard,
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Speaker 1: Pete Carmichael and John Fox. Is it possible that Brady
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Speaker 1: was being handcuffed under McDermott because he was a defensive,
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Speaker 1: mighty coach. Do you think we could see a free
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Speaker 1: rush revamp Bill's team this year? If you watch the
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady press conference, and I told him this about
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Speaker 1: five cocktails deep when I saw him at the hotel
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Speaker 1: at the Combine, probably about ten o'clock at night. Is
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Speaker 1: the way he handled the press conference, which was not
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Speaker 1: an easy situation because he had worked under Sean McDermott
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Speaker 1: for years and Sean McDermott, as he said, changed the
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Speaker 1: course of his life, giving him the opportunity to call
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Speaker 1: plays for Josh Allen. If you just watched how he
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Speaker 1: handled it, not just that situation but the rest, It's like,
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Speaker 1: I'm buying stock in this guy, and I think that
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Speaker 1: I think Joe Brady won. He's been an excellent offensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator since they fired what's his name Dorsey and they
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Speaker 1: elevated him, the offense has been fantastic. Cook has emerged,
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Speaker 1: Josh won an MVP and has been the best player
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Speaker 1: in the league for a couple of years or.
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Speaker 2: One of them.
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Speaker 1: Now, being a head coach, you never know untill he's
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Speaker 1: in that spot. What will he do in some of
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Speaker 1: these tights, situational football, at the end of halves, the
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Speaker 1: end of games, timeouts, challenges, You never know, and there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a learning curve with that, But it's a
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Speaker 1: pretty good situation.
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Speaker 2: He's taken over.
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Speaker 1: And Jim Leonard is a guy that most people thought
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Speaker 1: was going to be a head coach when he was
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Speaker 1: playing for Rex Ryan at safety for the Jets, So
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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty high on the Bills. I would say,
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Speaker 1: sitting here right now, I'd probably picked the Bills to
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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. And that seems crazy because I
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Speaker 1: didn't even know they're how good their coach is as
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Speaker 1: a head coach.
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Speaker 2: But if Josh Allen's healthy, I think they're going to
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Speaker 2: be a menace. I'm a believer.
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Speaker 1: Do you think this could be Stafford's final season with
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Speaker 1: the Rams? If so, would McVeigh consider stepping away from
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Speaker 1: football rather than committing to a long term project at quarterback?
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Speaker 1: It's hard to envision him fully buying into a rebuild.
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Speaker 1: Or do you see the Rams taking a similar approach
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Speaker 1: to what they did with Stafford making a big time
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Speaker 1: trade next season.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing McVeigh just have no
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Speaker 1: quarterback right go into an offseason if Stafford retires and
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Speaker 1: just try to figure it out. I think they would
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Speaker 1: be extremely aggressive for trade.
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Speaker 2: I think they would be.
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Speaker 1: Extremely aggressive to do whatever it took right. And I
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Speaker 1: think the Stafford thing. If you were a Rams fan
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Speaker 1: or just a fan of football at any moment, I
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Speaker 1: could see McVeigh if they were to win a Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl taking like five years off. He's notorious for working
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Speaker 1: like eighty eight ninety hour weeks these networks. You know,
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Speaker 1: Amazon would off from twenty million dollars a year, he
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Speaker 1: could kind of reset, he kind of you know, Gruden
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Speaker 1: was how the guy got to start. So look at
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Speaker 1: Gruden's career, what doing Monday night football did for him.
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Speaker 1: He could do Thursday night football. I would say that
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Speaker 1: would definitely be a possibility if they kind of looked around, like, well,
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Speaker 1: we could try to trade for people. No one's going
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Speaker 1: to trade. You know, no one's gonna be willing to
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Speaker 1: make a trade. There's no one to really trade for.
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Speaker 1: So you could argue this year is a little super
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Speaker 1: Bowl or bust, because I think it's fair to say
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Speaker 1: more than likely.
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Speaker 2: At Stafford's last year.
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Speaker 1: The only thing is I saw like there was a
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Speaker 1: there was a story today that Brady was like thinking
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Speaker 1: about coming back out of retirement. None of these guys
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Speaker 1: would rather do TV than play if they can play
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Speaker 1: at a high level. And you know, Matt Stafford is
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Speaker 1: taking a pay cut. He's making like forty forty five
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. So even if you get paid
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Speaker 1: a lot like Tom Brady, you don't make that Well,
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Speaker 1: Tom's close, But most of the other guys, like Trey
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Speaker 1: Aikman's making a ton.
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Speaker 2: He makes like fifteen eighteen million dollars a year.
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Speaker 1: If you're a good starting quarterback in the NFL, you
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Speaker 1: know you're making well over forty plus and they're asking
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Speaker 1: you the questions. You're not asking them the question. So
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Speaker 1: my gut would be this would be Matt Saffage last year,
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Speaker 1: but you'd never say never. Greetings from Bakersfield. What is
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Speaker 1: up with fellow Bakersfield native Derek Carr? I would have
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Speaker 1: thought he would have been a great fit for the Vikings,
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Speaker 1: But since Derek publicly announced he was healthy enough to
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Speaker 1: return to the NFL, the Vikings have signed Kyler and
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I would say the Vikings are out on
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Speaker 1: that one. I would have thought Derek would give the
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Speaker 1: Vikings a much better chance getting into playoffs than either
45:29
Speaker 1: of those two signings. Is simply the Saints, who hold
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Speaker 1: his rights, are expecting too much into trade and those
45:33
Speaker 1: two teams were free agents.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we had Derek on whatever that was a
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Speaker 1: month ago. I thought he would have a little bit
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Speaker 1: more of a market, but he's not a free agent
45:48
Speaker 1: and his contract. I always reading something's a little complicated,
45:52
Speaker 1: like would he just have to tear it up and
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Speaker 1: basically play for the veteran minimum. I mean, listen, Kyler
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Speaker 1: Murray is on the Viking, not because they think he's
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Speaker 1: some star. They got him for one point three million dollars.
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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. Would he be on the team if he
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Speaker 2: was a fifteen million dollar quarterback? For him?
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Speaker 1: I doubt it, you know, Derek, and I think it's
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Speaker 1: a little complicated when I got to trade a pick
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Speaker 1: for a guy that didn't even play last year, Maybe
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Speaker 1: it turns out it was a little more complicated than.
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Speaker 2: I thought. Now.
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Speaker 1: I also think he told us like he's not just
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Speaker 1: gonna play for anybody, So it's like he's not gonna
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Speaker 1: go the Jets or the Cardinals or one of these
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Speaker 1: terrible teams. Maybe he just made a couple hundred million
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Speaker 1: dollars and just actually gonna stay retired, and the Saints
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Speaker 1: hold on to his rights and everyone kind of moves on.
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Speaker 1: But you go another year, it's probably over. Would be
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Speaker 1: my guess that if Derek doesn't play in the NFL
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Speaker 1: this year, which again a lot can change, it's March
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Speaker 1: twenty sixth, sixth, But it does feel like at this
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Speaker 1: point in time that Derek Carr is not going to
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Speaker 1: be playing again. Things can change, people can get injured.
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Speaker 2: I guess you never know.
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Speaker 1: Crazy things can happen in training camp. Guy could get
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Speaker 1: injured in a preseason game, in a training camp practice,
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Speaker 1: in an early regular season game. So I guess you
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Speaker 1: can never say never. But I mean, shit, Philip Rivers
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Speaker 1: started three or four games last year, so yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you never know. But I was sitting here right now,
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Speaker 1: I think safe to say Derek's just retired.
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Speaker 2: That'll do it.
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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, enjoy the Sweet sixteen, the Elite eight,
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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you soon.
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Speaker 2: Peace.
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