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- 0:14Speaker 1: Top one hundred from ESPN. We're gonna dive into that
- 0:17Speaker 1: as well as some recruiting notes. All that and more
- 0:20Speaker 1: here on the Sooner or Later Sport Show. Thank y'all
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- 0:38Speaker 1: So on today's episode of the Sooner Later Sports Show,
- 0:42Speaker 1: me and Coop's got some fun stuff to talk about,
- 0:45Speaker 1: like first and foremost, ESPN dropped the top one hundred
- 0:48Speaker 1: and we got three guys on the list, and I'm
- 0:50Speaker 1: wondering if we got a host. We're gonna dive into
- 0:55Speaker 1: a little bit of recruiting information and we'll wrap things
- 0:59Speaker 1: up because us guess what Fall camp is over? Now
- 1:02Speaker 1: we get to really talk about what things are gonna
- 1:04Speaker 1: look like as we prepare ourselves. I guess for Temple,
- 1:09Speaker 1: So hit us up on fan line four three zero
- 1:11Speaker 1: nine zero one one nine zero six. Let us know
- 1:14Speaker 1: what you think of the show and give us all
- 1:17Speaker 1: of your strongs' opinions and hook us up. Coop. Talk
- 1:20Speaker 1: to me, man, how are you on this beautiful Sunday evening?
- 1:24Speaker 2: Talk season is over? Jay Talk season is over now,
- 1:29Speaker 2: I mean not necessarily, but we're in week zero and
- 1:33Speaker 2: so I think we got a couple of you know,
- 1:34Speaker 2: dum dun't dun't you know? We can do see it.
- 1:37Speaker 1: I can see it right there, like I can see
- 1:39Speaker 1: the finish line right there for top season. You can
- 1:41Speaker 1: see it right there.
- 1:42Speaker 2: It's right right around the corner. No, it's uh man,
- 1:47Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. You know. We we got week zero
- 1:49Speaker 2: football this weekend. And uh, you know, we talk about
- 1:53Speaker 2: you and I specifically always, you know, with with our
- 1:56Speaker 2: with our real real life jobs like working out in
- 1:58Speaker 2: the future, and and I pulled up on Saturday looking
- 2:01Speaker 2: for that week zero game and then my wife was like, hey,
- 2:05Speaker 2: it's next week. We still get you for one more week.
- 2:07Speaker 2: So I'm excited. I'm excited because now we are here.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Yeah, we are actually at the point. Right you know,
- 2:13Speaker 1: Josh paid always drops the picture of how many more
- 2:16Speaker 1: Saturdays left into football, And as you mentioned, we've got
- 2:19Speaker 1: some what's this Dublin, Ireland. Is that where the Florida
- 2:23Speaker 1: State Georgia Tech Game is on Saturday. So yet I
- 2:27Speaker 1: am excited that we finally we've made it, we survived,
- 2:32Speaker 1: We're all still alive, and we're probably gonna lose our
- 2:36Speaker 1: minds on the show today because we've got a phone
- 2:38Speaker 1: one for you all. I see you all trickling in.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Thank y'all for pulling up. Hello to everybody here in
- 2:46Speaker 1: the chat. You know, we are one hundred percent excited
- 2:50Speaker 1: at the fact that Baby Tall seasons over. So we'll
- 2:56Speaker 1: talk about week zero. We'll wrap that up at the
- 2:59Speaker 1: end of the show. But first off, cool, we gotta
- 3:02Speaker 1: talk about the thing. I think we should probably talk recruiting, right,
- 3:06Speaker 1: I think recruiting probably deserves it first. Or should we
- 3:09Speaker 1: just do the ESPN Top one hundred. You know what,
- 3:13Speaker 1: Let's do fall camp in ESPN one hundred. I think
- 3:16Speaker 1: we're gonna make the people wait for the conversation around
- 3:19Speaker 1: recruiting because everybody knows, y'all don't sync all of the retweets.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Y'all don't sync all of the Covered Wagon updates. So
- 3:27Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll really get into rudishing and some excitement because.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Don't leave out the crystal chicken wing either. You gotta,
- 3:34Speaker 2: you can't. There was a chicken wing out, there was
- 3:36Speaker 2: a chicken wing.
- 3:37Speaker 1: There was chicken wings out. You're right, my bad, my bad,
- 3:40Speaker 1: chicken wing king, there was doctor chicken wing there, there's
- 3:43Speaker 1: a crystal chicken wing out. So all right, no, but
- 3:46Speaker 1: first off, top one hundred, that dropped right, So Coop,
- 3:50Speaker 1: I'm gonna pulled us up just so the people can
- 3:52Speaker 1: see it and they can get an understanding what we're
- 3:54Speaker 1: talking about. ESPN puts out their top one hundred players
- 3:57Speaker 1: every year. Oklahoma had three dudes on there, and so
- 4:01Speaker 1: far on these three dudes, of course, you know who's
- 4:04Speaker 1: supposed to be on there, basically the guy that's a
- 4:06Speaker 1: borderline first round draft pick, Danny Stutsman. He's number thirty two,
- 4:10Speaker 1: which you know, to me is a good spot for him.
- 4:13Speaker 1: I think that he should have been in that range.
- 4:16Speaker 1: And honestly, what they're saying here about him is, I'll
- 4:20Speaker 1: read it for those that are listening to the audio version,
- 4:22Speaker 1: the senior linebacker is one of the players who will
- 4:24Speaker 1: be key to Oklahoma success. In twenty twenty four. An
- 4:27Speaker 1: All Big Twelve first team selection last year, Stutsman led
- 4:31Speaker 1: the Sooner as one hundred and four total tackles fifty
- 4:33Speaker 1: one solo sixteen tackles for the loss. He's also had
- 4:35Speaker 1: three sacks of pick two forced fumbles in a humble
- 4:37Speaker 1: recovery and that pick was returned for a touchdown. But
- 4:41Speaker 1: then you got the other two dudes that made it,
- 4:43Speaker 1: which kind of think there's a little bit of disrespect there,
- 4:48Speaker 1: like a smidge and a disrespect. You got Billy Bowman
- 4:53Speaker 1: at seventy three and you got Dion Burks at seventy four.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Arito's in a minute, Coot, Let's give me your thoughts
- 4:57Speaker 1: first in regards to the top one hundred, how do
- 5:03Speaker 1: you feel about the three being there? And the last
- 5:05Speaker 1: thing is do you think somebody else should have been
- 5:07Speaker 1: on there?
- 5:09Speaker 2: So again, talk season is coming to an end, so
- 5:13Speaker 2: that's that's where we're at. Just in all honesty, this
- 5:16Speaker 2: is I mean, it's good to have guys here, right
- 5:19Speaker 2: because if it's it would be concerning if nothing was there.
- 5:23Speaker 2: You know, we got to think that Billy Bowman, you know,
- 5:26Speaker 2: kind of got kind of got jobbed last year. Stutsman,
- 5:29Speaker 2: you know, kind of missed out some stuff. I think
- 5:30Speaker 2: that before that and before that injury, he might have
- 5:33Speaker 2: been the leader for the buck Kiss. But these guys
- 5:36Speaker 2: come back because unfinished business. I mean a lot of
- 5:39Speaker 2: unfinished business. Billy Bowman, you know, you and I have
- 5:42Speaker 2: had this conversation I think we talked about in the cord.
- 5:44Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that holds him back
- 5:46Speaker 2: is a lot of mistackles, and so you know he's
- 5:50Speaker 2: got the opportunity. I mean, it's just kind of like, oh,
- 5:52Speaker 2: you being ranked at sixteen, It's like, we know what
- 5:54Speaker 2: you're capable of, now come show me. And so I
- 5:57Speaker 2: think that Billy Bowman being right there, know, I know
- 6:00Speaker 2: that he sees it and he's like, all right, all right,
- 6:03Speaker 2: all right, and he gives Jada a call and she's like,
- 6:05Speaker 2: I mean, I think I was like number two in
- 6:07Speaker 2: my sport. But but you know she wins a few
- 6:11Speaker 2: of them. But you know, he he he offers a
- 6:14Speaker 2: lot more than just the play. But you know he's
- 6:17Speaker 2: got another level that I want to see him hit
- 6:19Speaker 2: that extra level this year because he doesn't have to
- 6:22Speaker 2: be mister everything. You know, you've got R. S. J.
- 6:25Speaker 2: You've got Peyton Bowen and then you know the the
- 6:31Speaker 2: Boogeyman cometh to Boganowski is another guy that's that safety
- 6:36Speaker 2: room is just such a stellar room. But Dion Burks,
- 6:40Speaker 2: you know it's it's you take a an elite receiver
- 6:44Speaker 2: off of a Purdue team and put him on Oklahoma
- 6:47Speaker 2: who has traditionally, you know, been more of a pass happy,
- 6:50Speaker 2: kind of attacking down field type of an offense. And
- 6:53Speaker 2: so you know that right there is I don't think
- 6:56Speaker 2: he's in the top hundred if he's still at Purdue.
- 6:59Speaker 2: So you get a couple of guys on here, and
- 7:01Speaker 2: I saw I'm happy for this because again it just
- 7:04Speaker 2: shows hey, you got some respect. But you know, us
- 7:07Speaker 2: around here, we think all those guys are probably supposed
- 7:10Speaker 2: to be a little bit higher. And I'll save my
- 7:14Speaker 2: snubs till after you get your feedback.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's a fair point, and I think
- 7:20Speaker 1: seventy three and seventy four is a little low. But
- 7:23Speaker 1: at the same time, like with Billy Bowmans, let me
- 7:24Speaker 1: read it for those that are listening. Bowman has started
- 7:27Speaker 1: twenty nine of thirty five games he's played in his career.
- 7:30Speaker 1: It was the name First Team All Big Twelve Player
- 7:32Speaker 1: for his efforts in twenty twenty three, he was second
- 7:34Speaker 1: in the country with six interceptions, three of which he
- 7:37Speaker 1: took back for touchdowns, and very third on the team
- 7:39Speaker 1: with sixty three total tackles and Indian burks. Despite playing
- 7:43Speaker 1: for four and eight per due team last year, Bursus
- 7:45Speaker 1: one of the top nine quarterback editions in the Winner
- 7:47Speaker 1: Transfer portal. He gives new quarterback Jackson Arnold a number
- 7:50Speaker 1: one target who can find the end zone seven touchdowns
- 7:53Speaker 1: last year, and stretch defenses. Burke's out of reception of
- 7:56Speaker 1: forty two yards or longer in four games last fall,
- 7:59Speaker 1: including an eighty four yard score against fres No State.
- 8:02Speaker 1: So I don't mind us being ranked lowly this year.
- 8:10Speaker 1: And the unfortunate thing is for a player like Billy Bowman,
- 8:14Speaker 1: like a Dion Bergs, who's most likely neither one of
- 8:17Speaker 1: them is likely gonna be here next season. I feel
- 8:20Speaker 1: kind of bad that, you know, they don't get the
- 8:24Speaker 1: opportunity to have the be highly ranked in the top
- 8:27Speaker 1: one hundred of the preseason. But I think next year
- 8:30Speaker 1: that respect's really gonna show based upon who decides to
- 8:33Speaker 1: come back, like a Nick Anderson, if he decide to return,
- 8:36Speaker 1: I mean six four two twenty I mean, yeah, roughly,
- 8:41Speaker 1: you would expect, as Teddy Lahman had said before, you
- 8:44Speaker 1: would expect a guy like that to get more attention. Right,
- 8:47Speaker 1: defensive lines still need to prove itself. I will still
- 8:50Speaker 1: live and die on that hill. I totally get it.
- 8:53Speaker 1: They still need to prove themselves. But outside of that,
- 8:58Speaker 1: this was really to me the three that made the
- 9:01Speaker 1: most sense. Right, revamped offensive line. So somebody next year
- 9:05Speaker 1: will populate on there. I can sense it, you know,
- 9:09Speaker 1: once they prove themselves. But I think the defensive line
- 9:12Speaker 1: is where I feel like we potentially got a snub.
- 9:15Speaker 1: But I think that someone's gonna jump out and be
- 9:18Speaker 1: on their next season, especially once Dominie's gone. I could
- 9:22Speaker 1: see an edge player ended up on there. I could
- 9:24Speaker 1: see a Stone or Jaydon Jackson being considered top one hundred.
- 9:28Speaker 1: We've lucked out with the players linebacker room. Somebody's gonna
- 9:32Speaker 1: replace stuts men, So I think that we'll get one
- 9:34Speaker 1: of those. We've lucked out to where we've got three
- 9:38Speaker 1: layers and three levels of talent that could potentially end
- 9:43Speaker 1: up on this list next season.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Yeah, for this season, maybe the only one. I gotta say,
- 9:49Speaker 2: you know, I don't understand why Dominic Williams isn't on here.
- 9:54Speaker 2: I mean even if you want to throw him at HUNDI,
- 9:56Speaker 2: you know whatever, But I mean, dude showed out. You know,
- 10:00Speaker 2: he was an all conference level player for the Big Twelve.
- 10:03Speaker 2: You know, he's he's had you know, he's had a game,
- 10:05Speaker 2: you know, in the national championship. So I mean, you
- 10:09Speaker 2: got you got that. Then you also got Nick Anderson
- 10:14Speaker 2: because I mean Nick Anderson had ten touchdowns and he
- 10:16Speaker 2: was one of the better producers in college football last year.
- 10:21Speaker 2: And I you know, I don't understand why he's not
- 10:24Speaker 2: in there, but yeah, I agree with you fully is
- 10:27Speaker 2: is you know it's guys, look look at what we
- 10:29Speaker 2: got here. We got two defensive players and one offensive
- 10:32Speaker 2: player on a top hundred list. How long has it
- 10:35Speaker 2: been since we've seen a defensive player that's getting some
- 10:39Speaker 2: flowers before the season from a national level. Cool.
- 10:44Speaker 1: That is probably the best perspective I've heard from anybody
- 10:48Speaker 1: and talking about this that right there's go folks. Listen
- 10:52Speaker 1: to what Coop is telling you right now. The best
- 10:55Speaker 1: part about this is that we've got two defenders on here. So,
- 10:59Speaker 1: as y'all know, we preach defense on this channel all
- 11:02Speaker 1: the time. Literally, That's the one thing I emphasize purposely
- 11:05Speaker 1: because I want you to understand. I know, I know
- 11:08Speaker 1: how you feel. Sooner fans, We're not used to this.
- 11:12Speaker 1: What good defensive players? Wait, the nation is recognizing our
- 11:17Speaker 1: defensive guys, Coop. I don't know. I feel like I'm
- 11:20Speaker 1: at unstable ground right now. I'm a little terrified.
- 11:23Speaker 2: I you know, I'm trying to think, like, I mean,
- 11:27Speaker 2: who was the last guy, who was the last guy
- 11:29Speaker 2: to get any type of props from a defensive standpoint, like,
- 11:34Speaker 2: I mean, I know that we gotta be right. Maybe, yeah,
- 11:38Speaker 2: maybe Kenneth Murray, Laurie Brogden. I do love you, I
- 11:42Speaker 2: see it. I see it, my adhd it don't it
- 11:44Speaker 2: don't play very well sometimes? But no, yeah, I uh,
- 11:49Speaker 2: I gotta go with you know, Kenneth Murray's probably the
- 11:52Speaker 2: last one. I mean, you got to go back a
- 11:55Speaker 2: little bit further than that, you know, I mean you
- 11:59Speaker 2: have the twenty twenty defense that you know, when those
- 12:02Speaker 2: guys came back from suspension, you had Isaiah Thomas, Nick Benito,
- 12:06Speaker 2: Peril Winfrey and Ronnie Perkins and those guys, you know,
- 12:11Speaker 2: really showed out at the end of the season and
- 12:13Speaker 2: that was Grinch's only like admirable defense that he had.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Now they you know, struggled the next year. So but yeah,
- 12:20Speaker 2: this is this is it. And you know, when you've
- 12:21Speaker 2: seen some of the national you know, highlights around what
- 12:25Speaker 2: O you is, you know what people are excited about
- 12:28Speaker 2: you being back, it was defense, you know, that was
- 12:31Speaker 2: the one that's our saving grace is and why we're
- 12:34Speaker 2: probably in the top twenty five was because of what
- 12:37Speaker 2: they're expecting year three out of vnables on the defense side.
- 12:40Speaker 2: But yeah, this is good because we've had the conversations
- 12:46Speaker 2: you know, around the horn, you know, pulling back and saying,
- 12:51Speaker 2: you know, the conversation of the days where we're like,
- 12:52Speaker 2: if we could just hold teams to thirty, you know,
- 12:55Speaker 2: we could do so much if we just hold them
- 12:59Speaker 2: to thirty. And you know, now, I mean I know
- 13:02Speaker 2: that you know, in some of our circles, we're we're
- 13:04Speaker 2: throwing out over and unders for the first three games
- 13:07Speaker 2: of the season, in the first seven games of the
- 13:08Speaker 2: season on points given up. And I know last year
- 13:12Speaker 2: you were saying, like, you know, eighteen to twenty in
- 13:14Speaker 2: the first you know, in the non conference schedule. So
- 13:17Speaker 2: I mean we've got We've got some excitement, and I
- 13:20Speaker 2: think that we saw steps last year, we're going to
- 13:22Speaker 2: see We're gonna see a continuation this year because it's
- 13:26Speaker 2: it's about the toe for this one's for you. This
- 13:28Speaker 2: is it's about the competitive depth. You got to have
- 13:32Speaker 2: the competitive depth to play great defense because you can't
- 13:37Speaker 2: let someone come off the field and all of a sudden,
- 13:39Speaker 2: your defense, you know, basically takes a I'm going with
- 13:44Speaker 2: like a you know, a forty spot you know, step
- 13:47Speaker 2: back from a total you know efficiency. So yeah, this
- 13:51Speaker 2: is exciting. I mean, as a Sooner fan, it is very,
- 13:55Speaker 2: very very exciting. And and I'll say this, according to
- 13:58Speaker 2: that list, Jay Is, I think that if you do
- 14:00Speaker 2: this at the end of the year, I think you
- 14:02Speaker 2: probably have three or four other guys on there. And Stephen,
- 14:06Speaker 2: you know, he just says it down there. I think
- 14:07Speaker 2: for Beachy Woo Woo, that is that's a cat that
- 14:10Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to uh. He he
- 14:14Speaker 2: is a tank and he is going to put people
- 14:16Speaker 2: in the heart locker. I think that Burks is going
- 14:19Speaker 2: to skyrocket up there. And you know, from one of them,
- 14:22Speaker 2: from one of them, hearing is the running backs, the
- 14:26Speaker 2: running backs are are are Are you know? Iron sharpens
- 14:29Speaker 2: iron situation between Javonte Barnes and Gavin sawchuks, we might
- 14:32Speaker 2: have ourselves a little thunder and lightning coming back.
- 14:36Speaker 1: No, it's a fair point. And as I as I
- 14:41Speaker 1: think about this, yeah, looking so, I'm looking back. Fifty
- 14:44Speaker 1: two points the first five games last season was the
- 14:46Speaker 1: total number of points we gave up, and the Iowa
- 14:50Speaker 1: State games started our streak of giving up at least
- 14:52Speaker 1: twenty points per game for the rest of the season.
- 14:55Speaker 1: For that it was less. And so for me, my
- 14:58Speaker 1: prediction is first our first three games, we should give
- 15:07Speaker 1: up less than combined thirty points. If we can do that,
- 15:15Speaker 1: I'm sold on this defense, but I mean I'm sold
- 15:18Speaker 1: on the defense, but I think will be even better.
- 15:19Speaker 1: How many points do you think we'll get give up?
- 15:21Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta I'm going for twenty or less.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Last year was twenty eight, So that's fine.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Don't I don't see. And let's say I do not
- 15:32Speaker 2: want anybody to get twisted after game one because last year,
- 15:35Speaker 2: after game one, I thought Sam Hartman was winning the
- 15:37Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy as is he played week or I guess
- 15:40Speaker 2: it's Week zero against Northwestern. He looked amazing. That running
- 15:45Speaker 2: back looked I mean, he looked amazing. But Temple's offense
- 15:49Speaker 2: is one of the worst in college football, like one
- 15:53Speaker 2: of the worst. And they've already been coming out and
- 15:55Speaker 2: saying like he's treating this kind of like a live scrimmage.
- 15:57Speaker 2: He's gonna play everybody. So you know, that's hard for
- 16:02Speaker 2: a team like Temple to roll in and you know,
- 16:04Speaker 2: you don't want your starters out there just getting their
- 16:06Speaker 2: brains beat in, you know, for four quarters. You want
- 16:10Speaker 2: you want to spread it out a little bit, so
- 16:12Speaker 2: it could get ugly in game one. So I just
- 16:14Speaker 2: want everybody to kind of pump the brakes because if
- 16:18Speaker 2: you go out there and you see like a you know,
- 16:20Speaker 2: fifty five nothing or something like that, like it's still Temple.
- 16:24Speaker 2: And but I want to see some there's things that
- 16:27Speaker 2: I want to see. I want to see, you know,
- 16:30Speaker 2: a lack of coverage issues. I want to see. I
- 16:33Speaker 2: want to see a three or four you know, three
- 16:38Speaker 2: or four three and outs, you know in a row.
- 16:40Speaker 2: I want to see stuff like that. I want to
- 16:42Speaker 2: see when you know they've got like a third and two,
- 16:45Speaker 2: I want to see a shut it down immediately. I
- 16:47Speaker 2: mean shut it down. So if they try to run,
- 16:50Speaker 2: it's not only nothing, it's it's negative. Those are things
- 16:54Speaker 2: I want to see with the defense, and then I
- 16:55Speaker 2: also want to see I think Hank said the best.
- 16:58Speaker 2: I would like to see our defense outscore to him.
- 17:01Speaker 1: That would be dope to see. I wish you want
- 17:04Speaker 1: to see that against Temple, Houston and Tulane. I don't
- 17:08Speaker 1: think it's realistic against Tennessee. I think that Hypel's offense
- 17:12Speaker 1: is just a little too good to do that. But
- 17:16Speaker 1: that don't mean it can't happen, because we've seen Tennessee
- 17:19Speaker 1: get shut down even with Hendon Hooker in the Hypel era.
- 17:23Speaker 1: So is a possibility because I don't know if they
- 17:27Speaker 1: had the wide receivers they had in the like the
- 17:29Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker era, so there's a chance, but I do
- 17:32Speaker 1: I would love to see this defense outscore the opposition
- 17:37Speaker 1: at least in the first three games. That's a good
- 17:40Speaker 1: foundation set going into the next. So I love that.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Thank y'all for pulling up to the channel. Thanks showing
- 17:49Speaker 1: up for the show. Hit that like Bud, wipe your
- 17:51Speaker 1: feet new to the channel, go ahead and survive. Also
- 17:54Speaker 1: share why because sharing is caring? Okay? Cool? Fall camp
- 17:59Speaker 1: is done. I know that the team did a pseudo
- 18:02Speaker 1: light walk through well light scrimmage. I guess you could say, right,
- 18:07Speaker 1: bodies are starting to get banged up. They're building up
- 18:09Speaker 1: that quote unquote resistance callouses on the body to be
- 18:12Speaker 1: able to handle more hits because we know that Temple is.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Time to game plan for Temple. What's your takeaways so
- 18:21Speaker 1: far as camp has ended? What questions do you potentially
- 18:27Speaker 1: have and what takeaways do you have so far?
- 18:33Speaker 2: You know we've seen the health did not stay you know,
- 18:37Speaker 2: top key at the end of fall camp on the
- 18:41Speaker 2: offensive line, and so you had you know where it's
- 18:44Speaker 2: in Hickman out and you know they pulled josh Bates
- 18:48Speaker 2: out to they're running josh Ayasosa at center basically because
- 18:54Speaker 2: you can't lose baits and have you know Hickman nicked up.
- 18:57Speaker 2: I think that everybody's going to be I think we
- 18:59Speaker 2: have our full complement of offensive linemen, you know once
- 19:02Speaker 2: we get to Temple. But you want to be able to,
- 19:06Speaker 2: like I said, you you want to be able to
- 19:08Speaker 2: play several people. You want to make sure that you
- 19:11Speaker 2: know you have you know your your goals as a
- 19:14Speaker 2: team going into game one, and that's where installation starts
- 19:18Speaker 2: now because Jackson Arnold, he's done going one on ones.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Now he gets to play against the Scout team. Yeah,
- 19:24Speaker 2: now he gets to Now he gets to basically work
- 19:28Speaker 2: without feeling Brent Vinnables and Zach Ally's defense you know,
- 19:32Speaker 2: coming down his throat, you know, with all the pressure
- 19:36Speaker 2: that they do. And so you know, that's that's that's
- 19:39Speaker 2: the exciting part is it is that Saturday was the
- 19:42Speaker 2: last bit listening to Teddy you know he got to go, Gabe,
- 19:46Speaker 2: I don't think he did, but you know, supporting him
- 19:49Speaker 2: in the in the Oklahoma Breakdown shirt tonight. But uh,
- 19:52Speaker 2: you know, a lot of extra you know, ex players
- 19:54Speaker 2: came up, some guys that haven't been around on the
- 19:56Speaker 2: program for several years. And there's a lot of excitement
- 20:01Speaker 2: you know around the you know, just around the program
- 20:03Speaker 2: just because of the SEC piece. And so for what
- 20:07Speaker 2: I want to see, the questions are Number one is
- 20:11Speaker 2: defensive ends. Game one through three, We're going to be
- 20:17Speaker 2: very very very very vanilla. We're going to play a
- 20:20Speaker 2: lot of stuff. Straight up. I don't think that you're
- 20:23Speaker 2: going to see anything that you know, you want, you know,
- 20:27Speaker 2: in any any new looks that that are going to happen,
- 20:32Speaker 2: you're going to see a lot of straight up play
- 20:34Speaker 2: and so you're going to see a lot of guys
- 20:35Speaker 2: rotating in and so I'm pretty excited about that. But
- 20:40Speaker 2: I want to see the pressure get home without a
- 20:43Speaker 2: lot of exotic blitzes, you know, by these defensive ends, uh,
- 20:46Speaker 2: these first three games, because you know, that's one of
- 20:49Speaker 2: the big things that we've seen, the capability. We saw
- 20:52Speaker 2: a lot of Max protect last year, and you know
- 20:54Speaker 2: that was you know, it became a little bit more
- 20:56Speaker 2: of an excuse, you know for for US fans as
- 20:59Speaker 2: as the year and along is well, it's it's all
- 21:01Speaker 2: Max protect, you know. And then we point towards the
- 21:03Speaker 2: Texas game that they didn't do it and we got
- 21:05Speaker 2: home quite often. So you know, I want to see uh,
- 21:08Speaker 2: you know, out of bare I want to see him
- 21:11Speaker 2: and taking that step. Does that extra weight and that
- 21:14Speaker 2: extra strength help him out? Ethan downs I don't you
- 21:17Speaker 2: know again, Ethan, I apologize on behalf of Sooner Nation.
- 21:22Speaker 2: You are the heart and soul of this team, and
- 21:24Speaker 2: so many of us have slept on you and just
- 21:28Speaker 2: didn't believe going into last year, so I don't I
- 21:31Speaker 2: don't worry about him. But let's see, uh, let's see
- 21:33Speaker 2: Cayden Willard. I know his dad is in here right now.
- 21:37Speaker 2: And some of the stuff I'm hearing about Cayden is
- 21:40Speaker 2: the dude is hungry. The dude wants to make a
- 21:43Speaker 2: name for himself. Also are Mason Thomas. I want to
- 21:47Speaker 2: see what does he look like? And then I think
- 21:49Speaker 2: we're going to get see our boy Danny uh and
- 21:52Speaker 2: our guy Nigel. I think we're gonna get get to
- 21:54Speaker 2: see them quite a bit in the first couple of games.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Is what what does what does it look like when
- 21:58Speaker 2: Danny Aquaye find is told, hey, it ain't no blue jersey,
- 22:03Speaker 2: go get it, go get it? And so what do
- 22:06Speaker 2: I want to see? Really? The first game is let's uh,
- 22:10Speaker 2: let's not bounce off of sacks. Let's not bounce off
- 22:13Speaker 2: of tackles. I mean, take your guy to the ground
- 22:17Speaker 2: and and finish the play and leave nothing to doubt.
- 22:20Speaker 2: And you know, because that's that's that's how you're going
- 22:23Speaker 2: to do good things in the sec.
- 22:28Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. So when I'm looking at the
- 22:31Speaker 1: questions for myself, I have some of course, I'm ready
- 22:36Speaker 1: to see who's gonna be the one that jumps out
- 22:38Speaker 1: at wide receiver and takes the reins. Now that we
- 22:42Speaker 1: lost Gibson, right, I'm sensing that it's gonna be a
- 22:45Speaker 1: Hester show. It's funny because our our resident dog guy
- 22:50Speaker 1: Red Dirt Sports, he tweets out that he expects a
- 22:54Speaker 1: two touchdown game against Temple for JJ Hester. Tulsa stand up,
- 22:58Speaker 1: you start rocking my Tulsa just so I could represent
- 23:01Speaker 1: for the man. But I feel like he has a
- 23:04Speaker 1: good chance of showing up. I think we're gonna see
- 23:07Speaker 1: some of the younger guys, but as a veteran presence,
- 23:09Speaker 1: someone that's been around long enough, I think him and
- 23:14Speaker 1: Jaya could really build some chemistry early this season and
- 23:18Speaker 1: actually show out going in preparation for like Tennessee. But
- 23:21Speaker 1: you're right, it's gonna be vanilla sets. I know people
- 23:25Speaker 1: are not gonna be happy about that. I mean, I
- 23:28Speaker 1: listen to fans complained last year. I mean, we allowed
- 23:32Speaker 1: twenty seven points in the first three games, and people
- 23:34Speaker 1: were pissed because we were still vanilla. People were mad
- 23:37Speaker 1: we were vanilla. Against Kansas State, we won seventy three nothing.
- 23:40Speaker 1: That's just gonna be what it is. What I want
- 23:44Speaker 1: to see is just them going out there and making
- 23:45Speaker 1: it happen. Though I want to see I don't want
- 23:49Speaker 1: to see too much tempo, but I want to see
- 23:52Speaker 1: some tempo. I want to see his go right. But
- 23:55Speaker 1: at the same time, like I don't I don't want
- 23:58Speaker 1: to see like tempo. I'd like to see us get big,
- 24:02Speaker 1: chunk plays and possibly score quickly. Yeah, but I'm hoping
- 24:07Speaker 1: our defense takes the ball back quickly and then we
- 24:09Speaker 1: can slow things down like the second time around. Right, Like,
- 24:12Speaker 1: I kind of want to see that type of complimentary
- 24:15Speaker 1: football because I know the defense is gonna do their
- 24:16Speaker 1: job right, just like they did against with Arkansas State.
- 24:19Speaker 1: I anticipate Game one to be that, and we'll preview
- 24:21Speaker 1: Temple next week, not this coming Wednesday, but next Wednesday
- 24:25Speaker 1: as we prepare for game week, because me and Coop
- 24:27Speaker 1: will definitely be at the game. But as Laurie mentioned here,
- 24:31Speaker 1: do you think we put one hundred on Temple? I
- 24:35Speaker 1: don't think that Venables would allow one hundred unless we
- 24:40Speaker 1: just keep getting picked sixes right now, if it's like
- 24:42Speaker 1: ninety to nothing at the half, I mean much he
- 24:44Speaker 1: can actually do to stop us from doing anything right.
- 24:48Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna be straight vanilla, and but I
- 24:51Speaker 1: want to see, I want to see if Hester is
- 24:52Speaker 1: the one that's gonna do it right running back room.
- 24:55Speaker 1: I do have questions about who's gonna be right there
- 24:57Speaker 1: with saut Chuck, because we know that Barnes is having
- 25:00Speaker 1: had a good camp based upon all the reports. I
- 25:03Speaker 1: was looking at you inside as a long ago as
- 25:05Speaker 1: well as two four seven and and stoy you over
- 25:07Speaker 1: there at school actually all three of them, they were
- 25:09Speaker 1: all talking about Gravante Barnes looking like his old stuff, Coop,
- 25:14Speaker 1: what does that mean for us? How do you think
- 25:16Speaker 1: that that that has it that fits for us? It's
- 25:18Speaker 1: coming year.
- 25:19Speaker 2: The one that I want to really really kind of
- 25:23Speaker 2: highlight is something that I think the Oklahoma breakdown guys were,
- 25:27Speaker 2: you know, they've they've talked about him, and you know,
- 25:29Speaker 2: that's that's one that I wanted, you know, to really
- 25:31Speaker 2: have people point out, because I mean those guys were players,
- 25:34Speaker 2: and they said last year, Javonte just looked like everything
- 25:37Speaker 2: was heavy, everything was slow, and the decisions and just
- 25:40Speaker 2: anything was there was so much effort with so little,
- 25:44Speaker 2: uh consequence. And so I know From what I've seen,
- 25:48Speaker 2: he is looking very very light on his feet, He's
- 25:51Speaker 2: making a you know, he's great on decisions. I expect
- 25:56Speaker 2: this to be somewhere between a sixty sixty five percent
- 26:00Speaker 2: run team, you know, between you know, scheme runs, RPO,
- 26:05Speaker 2: you know, quarterback run and so I want to see
- 26:08Speaker 2: guys where Sawchuk. You know, he has a little bit
- 26:11Speaker 2: more than Kennedy Brooks, you know, hesitation in his game
- 26:15Speaker 2: where he'll let the block set up, whereas Juvante Barnes
- 26:18Speaker 2: he looks like a you know, and I'm going deep
- 26:22Speaker 2: in the bag here, but a twelve Davis. He is
- 26:24Speaker 2: a guy who's a one cut downhill guy. Yeah, twelve
- 26:28Speaker 2: Davis is a Hall of Famer. So I'm not I'm
- 26:30Speaker 2: not calling him Trail Davis. That's just the style. And
- 26:33Speaker 2: so I I have a very very very very big
- 26:38Speaker 2: hope that you know, we're going to see him be
- 26:40Speaker 2: able to hit the hole and just go and it's
- 26:44Speaker 2: going to uh if you see him doing that. If
- 26:47Speaker 2: you remember that Florida State game, that's where he was,
- 26:50Speaker 2: you know, where he was getting his last year. It
- 26:53Speaker 2: seemed like he was not one hundred percent sure what's
- 26:56Speaker 2: going to happen, you know, in front of him, and
- 26:59Speaker 2: so it looked like he was thinking too much instead
- 27:02Speaker 2: of just running. And so yeah, that's that's the that's
- 27:06Speaker 2: the big piece for those two. Now you've got behind them.
- 27:09Speaker 2: You know, you heard Caleb Hicks. He looks the part.
- 27:11Speaker 2: He hasn't had his opportunity to get out there and run.
- 27:15Speaker 2: You have behind him. Taylor Tatum is starting to demand
- 27:20Speaker 2: himself some time. And then Xavier Robinson. Hearing a lot
- 27:25Speaker 2: more about Davier Robinson at the end of the camp.
- 27:29Speaker 2: You know, he lost some he lost some weight, and
- 27:32Speaker 2: Tomarco's gonna put guys out there who he knows that
- 27:34Speaker 2: he can trust. No matter what the play call is.
- 27:36Speaker 2: He doesn't want specialists out on the field. You know,
- 27:39Speaker 2: when it's when it when it means something, he wants
- 27:41Speaker 2: you to be able. If it's a pass protect, he
- 27:43Speaker 2: wants you to pass protect. If it is, you know,
- 27:45Speaker 2: a run play, he wants you to run in the
- 27:48Speaker 2: hole that it is designed to go to. Because it
- 27:50Speaker 2: is hard to correct things if you don't do the
- 27:53Speaker 2: stuff that was being called, because ad libbing just doesn't work.
- 27:57Speaker 2: And if you go back way way in the in
- 28:00Speaker 2: the history here not two way. But Roy Finch was
- 28:04Speaker 2: a guy that everybody wanted to see more of at
- 28:06Speaker 2: running back several years ago.
- 28:09Speaker 1: That's true.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Roy Roy had a big issue with with ad living
- 28:13Speaker 2: and you know the same NCAA twenty five. You know
- 28:17Speaker 2: this is this is uh, this is actual football. So
- 28:20Speaker 2: you got to be able to run and hit the
- 28:21Speaker 2: hole because you know, if that gets clogged up, you
- 28:24Speaker 2: know that's uh, it's it's it's something you can fix
- 28:27Speaker 2: that way. But if you go somewhere else and the
- 28:29Speaker 2: play design would have worked if you had to just
- 28:31Speaker 2: stay at home, that's not Marco doesn't have any patience
- 28:34Speaker 2: for that.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody mentioned here a sixty percent run, no way,
- 28:38Speaker 1: don't be surprised if we're running the ball sixty percent
- 28:40Speaker 1: of the time with forty pass right. Statistics may not
- 28:42Speaker 1: show that, but I think the play call ratio will
- 28:45Speaker 1: probably be close to that. I see Latreille doing that
- 28:50Speaker 1: because that's just kind of how Latreill does things. He
- 28:52Speaker 1: likes to have the run game heavily involved. I mean,
- 28:56Speaker 1: just go look back at what he did at from
- 28:59Speaker 1: North Carolina to Arizona to Indiana, even at North Texas.
- 29:04Speaker 1: He likes to run down your throat. He's tough, right.
- 29:06Speaker 1: It's funny they had the video with us that they
- 29:10Speaker 1: asked them the players during the Olympics what Olympic sports
- 29:13Speaker 1: they participated in, and you knew what Seth or Treil said.
- 29:15Speaker 1: He was very simple wrestling. He wants to get in.
- 29:19Speaker 1: He's gonna get in the mud, beat you up. That
- 29:21Speaker 1: that's his game. So that's what you're gonna see out
- 29:23Speaker 1: of this run game. And you know what you said
- 29:25Speaker 1: the Terrell Davis peace, it's not too far fetched. Terrell
- 29:28Speaker 1: Davis about five eleven to ten at his prime. Barnes
- 29:31Speaker 1: six foot two o seven probably be two ten by
- 29:34Speaker 1: season play. And they do have a similar game set, right.
- 29:38Speaker 1: It's that one cut boom goes straight where he needs
- 29:41Speaker 1: to cut, Boom, go to the side, beat you on
- 29:43Speaker 1: the sideline because Barnes is fast enough. If he's back
- 29:47Speaker 1: to his old self, you know, being that like you mentioned,
- 29:51Speaker 1: he was a little hesitant in some of his runs,
- 29:53Speaker 1: and I think it was that toe because that toad's
- 29:55Speaker 1: been bothering him since high school, so it's kind of
- 29:57Speaker 1: bothering him. His freshman year, he did go to his
- 29:59Speaker 1: floor the state. It was nagging going through the spring
- 30:02Speaker 1: and when it had surgery on it, and it was
- 30:04Speaker 1: still nagging him through the season. But if he's feeling
- 30:08Speaker 1: good and he can hit those one cuts, yeah, Coop,
- 30:11Speaker 1: I he's two right. You probably will see a little
- 30:16Speaker 1: Caleb Hicks. I don't know how much Meg will you'll
- 30:18Speaker 1: get to see, you know, I would love to see
- 30:20Speaker 1: some Megwell. I don't since that we'll see much of him,
- 30:22Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that. I think that the DeMarco
- 30:26Speaker 1: Murray is ready for someone to step up and jump in.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Sam Franklin hopefully he's you know, out the doghouse. But
- 30:34Speaker 1: then there was a video of him getting getting chewed
- 30:36Speaker 1: out by DeMarco in the back, and I think it
- 30:39Speaker 1: was a trap house. Had uh had I was booming
- 30:42Speaker 1: that posted it about the video, but he had posted
- 30:45Speaker 1: a comment to Franklin more so to ay gonna get
- 30:49Speaker 1: chewed out. That's that's just how we do things. But again,
- 30:52Speaker 1: I think that room is probably a lot more safe
- 30:55Speaker 1: than I was expecting. Wide receiver, of course, were good
- 30:57Speaker 1: Emmitt Jones doing it offensive line room quick. So the
- 31:02Speaker 1: report's coming down and a lot of this is that
- 31:07Speaker 1: we're feeling some nicks and bruises but it doesn't sound
- 31:11Speaker 1: like anybody won't be available for Temple sooner. Fans, it's
- 31:16Speaker 1: fall camp. First time collisions are happening. You're gonna get
- 31:21Speaker 1: nicked up. It's okay in some situations. You want them
- 31:25Speaker 1: to build those calluses up in preparation for the real hits,
- 31:28Speaker 1: especially come tou Lane, because Tulane's always got big dudes, right,
- 31:33Speaker 1: They've always got big talent. Houston's brought in a lot
- 31:35Speaker 1: of the players from Tulane last year because that's where
- 31:38Speaker 1: you know, Fritz comes from, So they're gonna be sizing.
- 31:41Speaker 1: But I think Tulane is the game that we really
- 31:44Speaker 1: get muddy and in physical. But that's a good thing.
- 31:50Speaker 1: You kind of want to catch whatever type nicks and
- 31:53Speaker 1: bruises you're gonna get early so you can start preparing
- 31:56Speaker 1: for it. So offensive line wise, I'm gonna give you
- 31:58Speaker 1: my offensive line prediction before we do our full depth chart.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Uh next Sunday, before the Temple game is the official
- 32:04Speaker 1: one to come out, We'll give our you know prediction
- 32:07Speaker 1: and who we expect you know, the right before just
- 32:11Speaker 1: because it's fun. It's something fun to talk about. On
- 32:14Speaker 1: the offensive line, man, I'm really thinking that you're going
- 32:16Speaker 1: to have. I'm thinking Sexy still takes that spot. I
- 32:21Speaker 1: still think l Zeta gets that guard, Hickman, Way Wou
- 32:30Speaker 1: and then Taylor, but I think Tarkan rotates in a lot,
- 32:36Speaker 1: same thing with Gary and Hatchett. What you think? Am
- 32:39Speaker 1: I crazy in myf face? Oh yeah, it's you, just
- 32:46Speaker 1: you just the side tells everything, man.
- 32:51Speaker 2: So I just I really feel that Bill beating Bow
- 32:57Speaker 2: is going to roll out who he thinks has done
- 33:02Speaker 2: the most and done the best during the camp. And
- 33:06Speaker 2: so then I think the tinkering throughout I think that
- 33:13Speaker 2: the tinkering throughout the rest of the first game, game two,
- 33:16Speaker 2: game three really start happening. And that is you get
- 33:21Speaker 2: I'm going with tarqu When at left tackle, Sexton left guard,
- 33:26Speaker 2: going with Hickman at center. We will and Jake Taylor
- 33:33Speaker 2: unless Jake Taylor doesn't get the the kind of the
- 33:36Speaker 2: health grade that he's there looking for, and then you
- 33:40Speaker 2: may see Spencer Brown at that right tackle spot. I
- 33:45Speaker 2: bet we see twelve offensive linemen play in game one.
- 33:50Speaker 2: They're wide a bit of guys because everybody I saw
- 33:55Speaker 2: in the chat e p L. E p L is
- 33:57Speaker 2: doing what EPL was expected coming here.
- 34:00Speaker 1: To do.
- 34:00Speaker 2: E p l is hitting his Everett is back in healthy,
- 34:05Speaker 2: and he is you know, he's probably going to get
- 34:08Speaker 2: some run. You're going to see, uh, you're probably going
- 34:13Speaker 2: to see baits out there too. They're gonna want to
- 34:15Speaker 2: see Isaosa get some get some play. So yeah, we're
- 34:18Speaker 2: gonna get quite a bit and and and Brooks, so
- 34:24Speaker 2: yours Ak and Komi. We're probably not going. If he
- 34:27Speaker 2: gets any play, it might be in the main game
- 34:29Speaker 2: middle of the year. But I think that he is
- 34:33Speaker 2: still coming back from his surgery. I think that his
- 34:37Speaker 2: intelligence is is phenomenal. And then the last guys, Uh,
- 34:41Speaker 2: Isaiah try Autrey is a guy who not a lot
- 34:45Speaker 2: of hoopla is being made out yet because they're trying
- 34:49Speaker 2: to figure that. It's kind of like a one A
- 34:51Speaker 2: one B at at both tackle spots right now with
- 34:54Speaker 2: you know, Tarquin and Sexton and then Taylor and Spencer Brown.
- 34:59Speaker 2: But the guy that right there ready to go is
- 35:01Speaker 2: Isaiah Autry. And you know, if you guys watch my
- 35:03Speaker 2: interview with his pops, like he his dad was an
- 35:07Speaker 2: offensive lineman, played with Steve McNair. His mom played for
- 35:11Speaker 2: past summit. You know Tennessee legend in women's basketball, so
- 35:17Speaker 2: he has some phenomenal, phenomenal pedigree. So but yeah, I'm
- 35:22Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go with maybe the starter's role out there,
- 35:25Speaker 2: and you may not see them, you know, do more
- 35:29Speaker 2: than one or two series together before being both starts
- 35:32Speaker 2: kind of swinging people in and out. But health is
- 35:35Speaker 2: going to be the big piece. It is. You know,
- 35:37Speaker 2: how how does being bow handle that? Are we running
- 35:40Speaker 2: a lot of stretch plays or we run around a
- 35:42Speaker 2: lot of boundary plays so that guys are more you know,
- 35:45Speaker 2: on the move than than grinding. We'll just see because again,
- 35:49Speaker 2: you got what we got twelve days. You got twelve
- 35:52Speaker 2: days of health, you know, health time, and I don't.
- 35:55Speaker 2: And again, like I said, I don't think Temple is
- 35:57Speaker 2: going to put up much resistance on defense, but you
- 36:00Speaker 2: you definitely want people getting stronger as the week's ago.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Yeah no, and looking at this last season against Arkansas State,
- 36:07Speaker 1: we actually play like fourteen offensive lineman.
- 36:14Speaker 2: So it's not bad, it's it's a I mean, it's
- 36:18Speaker 2: a good it's a good thing to get to get
- 36:20Speaker 2: out there, right, is to be able to see some
- 36:23Speaker 2: of these younger kids, because you know, that's that that
- 36:26Speaker 2: twenty four offensive line class is going to be kind
- 36:29Speaker 2: of forgotten when you know by the time we roll
- 36:32Speaker 2: at the end of this week and what we have
- 36:34Speaker 2: coming in the twenty five class. But there are some
- 36:36Speaker 2: dudes on that twenty four line class that that they
- 36:39Speaker 2: they have heard everything plus more about how it wasn't
- 36:45Speaker 2: a good cycle, it wasn't a good year, and the
- 36:47Speaker 2: rest of this offensive line they led with, example, you
- 36:50Speaker 2: just get out there and get it going.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Yeah. Last year, and then of course, SMU we played less.
- 36:58Speaker 1: We played about then, so we played mainly. We swapped
- 37:03Speaker 1: out the left guards a lot. But then of course
- 37:06Speaker 1: told so we went back and we brought out just
- 37:08Speaker 1: about every single offensive lineman in games to run, which,
- 37:13Speaker 1: as you said, is kind of what you want to do.
- 37:14Speaker 1: You want to be able to rotate, see how everybody's feeling,
- 37:16Speaker 1: has everybody's doing or whatnot. Yeah, and Sean, You're right,
- 37:24Speaker 1: someone will hype up Temple this week. I've already got
- 37:27Speaker 1: somebody in one of my mentions. They who was it?
- 37:30Speaker 1: Circa Circa dropped their lines for week one, and I
- 37:36Speaker 1: just tweeted out that Colorado State's got a chance to
- 37:38Speaker 1: do the funniest thing week one and then of course
- 37:40Speaker 1: they responded to Temple has the best chance to do
- 37:43Speaker 1: something for week one. Yeah, it's funny. That's a good response.
- 37:47Speaker 1: We'll play because both of them. I think Texas is
- 37:50Speaker 1: a thirty five point favorite. We're like a forty point favorite,
- 37:55Speaker 1: so it could be pretty funny. I'm here for it.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Colorado States.
- 38:01Speaker 1: They are Yeah, Jay Jay Jay Norvell's got them boys
- 38:05Speaker 1: a little bit with a chip on their shoulder. Man,
- 38:07Speaker 1: they're still mad at Colorado, So I'm sensing I'm sensing
- 38:11Speaker 1: there's a good opportunity for them to say, hey, we're
- 38:13Speaker 1: gonna prove ourselves because if we beat an old big
- 38:15Speaker 1: twelve team and we play against Colorado, will be ready.
- 38:18Speaker 1: But I think they get thrott off this entire season
- 38:19Speaker 1: by everybody. I don't think they're gonna be a very
- 38:21Speaker 1: good team at all. So they got for pulling up
- 38:29Speaker 1: to the channel as usual, hit that light button, do
- 38:31Speaker 1: the channel subscribe. Listening rate review gives five stars Coop Man.
- 38:36Speaker 1: As we'll start talking a little bit of recruiting before
- 38:37Speaker 1: we talk week zero, Chuck asked, is good questions? Very
- 38:42Speaker 1: good question here? We don't get your five star line?
- 38:45Speaker 1: Will you cry? Absolutely not. I don't. I don't let
- 38:49Speaker 1: that alter my emotions. But I'll tell you this, I
- 38:53Speaker 1: have very like low concerns of the chances that we
- 38:56Speaker 1: don't get to land this one. So as y'all know,
- 38:58Speaker 1: a couple of big players that were after Right now,
- 39:01Speaker 1: Michael Fasousi, the crown jewel of the class for a
- 39:05Speaker 1: lot of schools, makes his announcement three pm on Wednesday.
- 39:10Speaker 1: We will be live. I think Pg's gonna join us,
- 39:14Speaker 1: but it'll definitely be me and Cool. I've already blocked
- 39:16Speaker 1: out that time at work that way, no one bothers me,
- 39:20Speaker 1: but we will be going live to commemorate the commitment. Now,
- 39:31Speaker 1: no one knows exactly where he's going, but shout out
- 39:35Speaker 1: to our guy PG, the PG show. You checked out
- 39:38Speaker 1: his channel, you know where to go. Steven points it out.
- 39:41Speaker 1: PG has been hard core on the Fasusi train to
- 39:46Speaker 1: Oklahoma for almost a year and it was all been
- 39:50Speaker 1: conversations he's had with the player and just the way
- 39:53Speaker 1: the te le's have read. No one has officially told
- 39:56Speaker 1: anybody anything, but it's been the feelings. Now, the way
- 40:01Speaker 1: he responds and the way he kind of glows in
- 40:05Speaker 1: those conversations. It really looks like Oklahoma, and as y'all know,
- 40:12Speaker 1: we got a whole bunch of flips on Yeah, we
- 40:20Speaker 1: got a bunch of flips of people's predictions from Texas
- 40:25Speaker 1: to Oklahoma. So everything is now leaning into the pocket
- 40:29Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. Pre commitment, Coop, how do you feel?
- 40:35Speaker 2: I think Vessussi is a sooner and this is not again.
- 40:41Speaker 2: We We've been in on this one for quite a
- 40:44Speaker 2: long time and there's been lots of conversation around where
- 40:47Speaker 2: Michael Fasussi is gonna go with everything that It's not
- 40:52Speaker 2: just that people were dropping crystal balls for Forsussies. They
- 40:55Speaker 2: were changing very very very long timeictions for Texas. I
- 41:02Speaker 2: don't I find it a little funny because I don't
- 41:05Speaker 2: think Texas has been the destination since Fasusi's last visit
- 41:11Speaker 2: and when was that in April or May the last
- 41:15Speaker 2: time that he came into town. And it's not about
- 41:20Speaker 2: playing time. I think when you're a guy like Michael Fasousi,
- 41:23Speaker 2: you expect to come in and start in whatever program
- 41:26Speaker 2: that you're going to. And so it's, uh, from from
- 41:30Speaker 2: what I'm understanding, is uh, you know the decision still,
- 41:34Speaker 2: I mean that the card is still not at the
- 41:36Speaker 2: draft podium yet, but you start seeing everybody with their
- 41:40Speaker 2: prediction flips. You've seen the white flag and the the
- 41:44Speaker 2: the walking back from the Texas insiders for quite a
- 41:47Speaker 2: long time. Now for a couple of weeks, man, I'll
- 41:51Speaker 2: just tell you this is It's it's FASUSI is again
- 41:56Speaker 2: he is. I mean, this is Bill Bingbo's his crown jewel.
- 42:00Speaker 2: And did I hear it right, Jay that Fasusi is
- 42:03Speaker 2: committing on Bill Beatingbow's birthday.
- 42:06Speaker 1: So yeah, the twenty first is also Bill beating Bow's birthday. Yeah,
- 42:10Speaker 1: I thought that was protty pretty coincidental. I think someone
- 42:13Speaker 1: mentioned that that was also the date that his family
- 42:16Speaker 1: came to the States. I don't know how all of
- 42:19Speaker 1: this stuff coincidentally decides to line up, but hey, if
- 42:23Speaker 1: the stars aligned, you know, I ain't complaining.
- 42:26Speaker 2: I'm here for And I mean, we saw Texas start
- 42:31Speaker 2: offering and going after other targets, and you know, a
- 42:35Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and so when that starts becoming
- 42:39Speaker 2: more public information, it's been in play for a little while.
- 42:43Speaker 2: And I kid you not, this was one of the
- 42:45Speaker 2: I think it was Eric Nollen inside Tech, one of
- 42:48Speaker 2: the Texas insiders, and he said, you know, don't get it,
- 42:51Speaker 2: don't get it twisted. You know, this was still Flood's
- 42:54Speaker 2: number one guy that he was going after. It's still
- 42:57Speaker 2: his guy. And that was not a that's not a that.
- 43:04Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that they moved on. So you're gonna
- 43:06Speaker 2: see people walk back and make it it's not that
- 43:08Speaker 2: big a deal. We didn't really want him and we're
- 43:10Speaker 2: going after somebody in twenty six. Now, listen, this is
- 43:13Speaker 2: a this is a top flight this is a top
- 43:16Speaker 2: flights offensive lineman. We've been kind of pointing at this since,
- 43:21Speaker 2: I mean this time last year, Jay, because we were
- 43:24Speaker 2: talking about the offensive line recruiting being you know really
- 43:27Speaker 2: you know, not as robust in that twenty four class.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Bill being Bo went and got him some some diamonds
- 43:34Speaker 2: in the rough. And we know what he and again
- 43:35Speaker 2: I agree with that spot. We know what he does
- 43:37Speaker 2: with these these three star and these four star guys.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Now what happens if he has a guy who likes
- 43:42Speaker 2: to work, who knows who I mean, listen, you know
- 43:45Speaker 2: everybody knows who Bill being Bo is. If you want
- 43:48Speaker 2: a general, a general teddy bear to come out and
- 43:51Speaker 2: you know emotionally support you out on the practice field.
- 43:54Speaker 2: Go somewhere else because Bill being bo treats everybody the
- 43:58Speaker 2: same and you mess up.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a stickler for doing your job and getting
- 44:05Speaker 1: it done, which is a good thing.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Right.
- 44:06Speaker 1: We've seen I mean, I know y'all have seen all
- 44:08Speaker 1: the videos of Tyler Guiden the way that he's been
- 44:10Speaker 1: playing in the NFL here in the preseason. Sure's preseason,
- 44:13Speaker 1: but he's still playing against the ones, and people have
- 44:17Speaker 1: taken notice in his skill set. People have taken notice
- 44:21Speaker 1: in his capabilities, and people are like, hey, man, Dallas
- 44:24Speaker 1: maybe got in the steal in the draft by snatching
- 44:27Speaker 1: this guy up. He's out there cooking Jared Verse again
- 44:31Speaker 1: in their joint scrimmage, which I was just cracking up, like, dude,
- 44:36Speaker 1: I cannot get away from this guy. Why can I
- 44:39Speaker 1: not get away from this dude? That's that Bill beating
- 44:41Speaker 1: both special and you know this is a very solid
- 44:43Speaker 1: point here. We're bag man. Nope, not bag man. Richard
- 44:49Speaker 1: mentioned it. I think we can live with three start
- 44:51Speaker 1: and four star O line BB is that good, But
- 44:53Speaker 1: imagine what he can do with the top players. I
- 44:57Speaker 1: cannot wait. I agree seeing beaten bow do this with.
- 45:02Speaker 1: You know, players that have not been evaluated well, Hick,
- 45:06Speaker 1: I think one of my favorite ones as of outside
- 45:08Speaker 1: of Tyler Geidon is now Ryan Foger. Right when he
- 45:12Speaker 1: did the commitment, I made a video he's a three star.
- 45:15Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch of people saying three star you,
- 45:17Speaker 1: three star U and trying to clown and I'm just like,
- 45:19Speaker 1: don't worry. The evaluations are gonna happen. I'm telling you
- 45:22Speaker 1: something specially about this kid, especially by the way he moves.
- 45:25Speaker 1: And there's a reason why beaten Bow wanted him. He's
- 45:28Speaker 1: top one hundred. Now he's like eighty four to one
- 45:31Speaker 1: sixty four on another the anticipation is that he could
- 45:34Speaker 1: end up in the top forties on most of the
- 45:36Speaker 1: recruiting sites. Sounds like really good evaluating to me. And
- 45:41Speaker 1: so you land him as one bookend with Fasousi and
- 45:44Speaker 1: then all the young players. Yeah, you're you're putting some
- 45:48Speaker 1: stuff together. So a lot of questions in here. Oh yeah,
- 45:53Speaker 1: Jaydon Hardy is also one. We got to talk about
- 45:55Speaker 1: Jaydon Hardy, Shawn Hutton, you know, all the friends, former teammates.
- 45:59Speaker 1: That is definitely people that deserve some you know, some
- 46:04Speaker 1: recognition because we're building the Louisville to Norman pipeline. I
- 46:13Speaker 1: would love to see more of that.
- 46:16Speaker 2: And you know, you know who tweeted that part right
- 46:19Speaker 2: or who chimed in that yep, So listen mark it down.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Around December, Bill Beedingbow is going to be in the
- 46:28Speaker 2: top five for recruiter of the Year. And I've been
- 46:31Speaker 2: calling this since June. At that point, I thought Rogers
- 46:35Speaker 2: was was Oklahoma bound at that point, but I think that,
- 46:39Speaker 2: like I said with with Owen Holland Beck, this is
- 46:41Speaker 2: a guy who's going to get forgotten because of the
- 46:43Speaker 2: three star part. Uh listen, create Humphrey was the same
- 46:46Speaker 2: rating as Owen Hollenback. Holland Beck is an absolute stud.
- 46:51Speaker 2: And and then you throw in foj who I believe
- 46:54Speaker 2: will be a five star guy when it's all said
- 46:56Speaker 2: and done. With Fasousi Sewn hutt Is is a kid
- 47:01Speaker 2: who a lot of people don't understand, Like this guy
- 47:04Speaker 2: could be a D one player under scholarship somewhere else,
- 47:07Speaker 2: but he's coming here because he wants to be He
- 47:10Speaker 2: wants to be great. And uh, I know that his parents,
- 47:13Speaker 2: you know, let him have his his process and and
- 47:16Speaker 2: kept up with that. But watch out because I think
- 47:20Speaker 2: it is it is going to be a really really cool,
- 47:22Speaker 2: uh really really cool thing for Bill Beatenbow. And like
- 47:25Speaker 2: I said, the hate is going to move on because
- 47:27Speaker 2: you can't be clowning on beating Bou anymore. And so
- 47:31Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited for for coach beating Bow because
- 47:34Speaker 2: you know, he he had this year circle, the relationships
- 47:37Speaker 2: that he started with guys like ty Haywood who you
- 47:40Speaker 2: end up at Alabama, Lamont Rogers, who currently is with
- 47:44Speaker 2: with Missouri. But you know, if fo J is one
- 47:48Speaker 2: that I mean, I see Tyler Guidon when I look
- 47:50Speaker 2: at fo J, He's a guy who is extremely athletic.
- 47:54Speaker 2: He's going to come in and he's gonna get good weight.
- 47:55Speaker 2: But yeah, this uh, this offensive line group with who's
- 47:58Speaker 2: on campus now and who's coming in this is this
- 48:01Speaker 2: is I mean, he Bill Beingbo's got some tools to
- 48:04Speaker 2: cook with.
- 48:05Speaker 1: And as much as I uh, you know, you know,
- 48:07Speaker 1: adore Bama. Shout out to my guy Tay Hayes and
- 48:10Speaker 1: all the people that do the Bama content, Jake, you know, coach,
- 48:14Speaker 1: you know, all the few folks that were really cool
- 48:16Speaker 1: with Jase. They got a lot of flips happening right now,
- 48:20Speaker 1: people going out to their people.
- 48:22Speaker 2: M hm.
- 48:23Speaker 1: So just saying I don't think that ty is one
- 48:27Speaker 1: hundred percent off base. I also don't even think uh
- 48:32Speaker 1: Lamar Rogers is one hundred percent out. So yeah, answer
- 48:37Speaker 1: some questions and then we're gonna jump into week zero
- 48:40Speaker 1: kind of, you know, talk about some of the games there.
- 48:43Speaker 1: So they got pulling up again. Wipe your feet, hit
- 48:45Speaker 1: the light button, Newton chownce subscribe rate review all that jazz.
- 48:50Speaker 1: Uh good question, Heyla. Are you guys gonna do a
- 48:56Speaker 1: pregame live show at the tailgate before the home games
- 48:59Speaker 1: and maybe some away games? I don't think we'll be
- 49:02Speaker 1: able to just because of the logistics and guarantee will
- 49:06Speaker 1: be there. Not this year, maybe next. I think I'm
- 49:09Speaker 1: gonna work on some stuff. Actually, there's a chance I
- 49:11Speaker 1: may do something before Tulane with Locked On. They've got
- 49:15Speaker 1: a partnership with someone that's doing something at the tailgate
- 49:18Speaker 1: and we were invited out there, so that might have
- 49:21Speaker 1: something there. May stream it here as well as on
- 49:23Speaker 1: Locked On channel, so keep your eyes open for that.
- 49:27Speaker 1: So the Cowboys ask question if oh you tried to
- 49:29Speaker 1: flip somebody who do y'all think or hope that would
- 49:31Speaker 1: be me is Lamont Rodgers. Cool.
- 49:37Speaker 2: I don't want to say a couple of different things
- 49:39Speaker 2: right now, but let's go with Lamont Rodgers at the moment,
- 49:43Speaker 2: I think that maybe you take another run at Smith
- 49:45Speaker 2: or a grobo, a roguebo from at Texas. Texas. Texas
- 49:51Speaker 2: is in some having some issues right now. They're down
- 49:54Speaker 2: to five total defensive commitments and.
- 49:56Speaker 1: They just had a flip on the corner.
- 49:59Speaker 2: Yes, not a lot phillips to LSU. Yeah, And that's
- 50:04Speaker 2: what we're in a really really kind of a curious
- 50:07Speaker 2: way of recruiting right now. And for everybody who questioned
- 50:11Speaker 2: Brent Vinables, you know, commit once you're ready and don't
- 50:15Speaker 2: commit until you are ready. This is saving us a
- 50:18Speaker 2: lot of a lot of heartache because a lot of
- 50:22Speaker 2: guys are committing and getting their spot locked up, and
- 50:25Speaker 2: then they continue to go and go and go. And
- 50:28Speaker 2: now we're seeing people flip left and right, and you know,
- 50:32Speaker 2: you see Alabama has lost three or four guys here recently. Texas,
- 50:36Speaker 2: you know, they thought that they were in on a
- 50:37Speaker 2: lot of five stars because I remember what was it
- 50:39Speaker 2: at the end of the beginning in August. You know
- 50:40Speaker 2: how many five stars can we get in August? And
- 50:42Speaker 2: it was like, was it going to be four or five? Well,
- 50:46Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to hit that number. So
- 50:49Speaker 2: we've we've got the absolute complete advantage this coaching staff
- 50:55Speaker 2: because after Fasusi on Wednesday, you essentially got one other,
- 51:00Speaker 2: you know, bullet in the chamber, and each coach can
- 51:03Speaker 2: go out and start having conversations. And if the team
- 51:06Speaker 2: starts showing out in the sec and then you go, hey,
- 51:10Speaker 2: you know, we're this positions where we're at, and I
- 51:13Speaker 2: think that you can help us. That's a that's a
- 51:16Speaker 2: good conversation to be able to have and have all
- 51:18Speaker 2: your focus there because you know, you still don't want
- 51:20Speaker 2: to press super hard on twenty six until you know
- 51:23Speaker 2: later in the year.
- 51:24Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'll get you on that one. I like
- 51:27Speaker 1: this one, Blaine Child, It's a good one. Do you
- 51:29Speaker 1: guys think DG Dylan Gabriel will win the Heisman. I
- 51:34Speaker 1: don't think Dylan Gabriel wins the Eisman this year, but
- 51:37Speaker 1: I think he ends up in New York. The way
- 51:39Speaker 1: that Oregon runs their offense, this really is suited really
- 51:44Speaker 1: good for what Dylan Gabriel's skill set is right, like uh,
- 51:48Speaker 1: I think Joe Class said it best to me, and
- 51:52Speaker 1: he said that the way that Levy's offense is set,
- 51:56Speaker 1: it's built for a quarterback to leverage the size and
- 51:58Speaker 1: speed of the talent you have at the wide receiver room.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Hence why Emmitt Jones and the way that he's recruited
- 52:03Speaker 1: in comparison, Actually, Kel Gundhy recruited the exact same way
- 52:07Speaker 1: as the way Emmit Jones. Is a lot of big dudes,
- 52:10Speaker 1: some fast guys for the slot. Similar you know, they
- 52:13Speaker 1: got similar I guess you say types of players they
- 52:16Speaker 1: would go after, right, They both had a type. Kel
- 52:18Speaker 1: was just really good at recruiting all the other positions too,
- 52:21Speaker 1: like you leveraged him in any other position, running back,
- 52:25Speaker 1: helping quarterback, help offensive line. Emmett is really good at
- 52:27Speaker 1: the relationships in the Dallas area to get other players,
- 52:30Speaker 1: but he's really good at finding his wide receivers. And
- 52:32Speaker 1: so Levy's offense was not built to make Dylan Gabriel great, right.
- 52:39Speaker 1: It was built for him to be really really good,
- 52:41Speaker 1: but it requires a lot of more deep passes and
- 52:44Speaker 1: unfortunate thing what Dylan Gabra was not that his arm
- 52:47Speaker 1: wasn't strong enough. He waited too late to throw it right.
- 52:50Speaker 1: It's usually a click too late if he would have
- 52:52Speaker 1: threw because we seen him. We see him. We saw
- 52:54Speaker 1: him here, Brendan Thompson deep in stride, we saw him,
- 52:56Speaker 1: Andrew Anthony stride once, we saw him, he Nick Anderson
- 52:59Speaker 1: a few times in stride right, We saw him Jay
- 53:01Speaker 1: Gibson his stride right. The problem was is that on
- 53:05Speaker 1: some of the deep ones he wasn't. He was a
- 53:08Speaker 1: click too late on his throat. You would have throw
- 53:11Speaker 1: it a click earlier, maybe like half a second or
- 53:13Speaker 1: a second earlier. He hit him in his stride. So, Coop,
- 53:16Speaker 1: you think that DG get a chance at the Siseman.
- 53:18Speaker 2: No, I don't think he does because I don't think that.
- 53:20Speaker 2: I don't think that Oregon is going to have the season.
- 53:25Speaker 2: The organ is going to be good, and Oregon is
- 53:28Speaker 2: probably going to hit the playoff. But I really truly
- 53:32Speaker 2: don't think that. I think that you're gonna need to
- 53:34Speaker 2: see Oregon come in and probably you know, lose one
- 53:38Speaker 2: game or be undefeated for him to win the Heisman.
- 53:41Speaker 2: But that offense is not set up the same way
- 53:45Speaker 2: it's it's it's absolutely not set up the same way
- 53:47Speaker 2: at Oregon. It is set up the same way at
- 53:51Speaker 2: Oregon where you've got you know, speed merchants on the outside.
- 53:54Speaker 2: And you know, I was just watching the TCU game
- 53:57Speaker 2: the other day. You know, when he bombs to Brendan Tom,
- 54:00Speaker 2: Brendan Thompson had to stop and come back to the ball,
- 54:03Speaker 2: and you know that that that that stuff's not going
- 54:05Speaker 2: to go over super well, over and over and over again.
- 54:08Speaker 2: And he misses a lot of plays. So I mean,
- 54:11Speaker 2: I think that there's going to be more exciting players
- 54:14Speaker 2: around the country that people are going to focus on.
- 54:17Speaker 2: But yeah, I think, you know, he's there's a good
- 54:19Speaker 2: chance that he goes and listen, I love DG. Like
- 54:22Speaker 2: I said, you know, I think he was a bridge
- 54:23Speaker 2: player for Oklahoma. He he's in the same book as
- 54:26Speaker 2: as a Paul Thompson for me because he was a
- 54:29Speaker 2: guy who we saw. We saw what happened at Texas
- 54:33Speaker 2: when we didn't have him, So you know, bless him.
- 54:37Speaker 2: He is a he's a he's a great guy. He
- 54:40Speaker 2: came back this year because it was the nil money
- 54:44Speaker 2: up in Oregon was going to be better than holding
- 54:45Speaker 2: the clipboard and what he would get, you know, as
- 54:47Speaker 2: a sixth seventh you know, undrafted free agent in the
- 54:51Speaker 2: in the NFL. So you know anytime that you you know,
- 54:55Speaker 2: want to have anybody just dog on Dylan Gabriel as
- 54:58Speaker 2: a as a player, he just has his limit tations.
- 55:02Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, That's very true. All right. This is
- 55:04Speaker 1: a good one from Steven. Who has the higher ceiling?
- 55:08Speaker 1: Foge or Fasousi? So, I mean, honestly, this is pretty tough.
- 55:15Speaker 1: Both of them are roughly six five sixty six, around
- 55:18Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, so they're like, it's a borderline carbon
- 55:21Speaker 1: copy of each other. Both really good movement. I think
- 55:25Speaker 1: Fasussi is a little bit faster, and I think he's
- 55:28Speaker 1: a little bit more technically sound today, but that doesn't
- 55:30Speaker 1: mean that Foje can't get to that same point. If
- 55:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, uh Coop, I honestly, I'm be real.
- 55:38Speaker 1: I think Fasussi has this one. What you got.
- 55:40Speaker 2: I think FOJ has the higher ceiling, but he has
- 55:43Speaker 2: the lower floor. He has the lower I think that Fasusi,
- 55:49Speaker 2: I mean, I would just be absolutely stunned if this
- 55:52Speaker 2: guy was not an All Conference player. You know pretty
- 55:55Speaker 2: quickly and you know, newcomer of the year type of
- 55:57Speaker 2: guy once he comes out. So, but I do think
- 56:01Speaker 2: that fo J has that speed and blend. Fo J
- 56:03Speaker 2: might be a guy who never has that's doesn't have
- 56:07Speaker 2: the capability to have the college career that Fasusi will.
- 56:10Speaker 2: But he's a guy that could, you know, go to
- 56:12Speaker 2: the NFL and you know, be there for you know,
- 56:14Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen years as an all pro type of guy.
- 56:18Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. I can see
- 56:20Speaker 1: that exact same thing, the way that Foge moves, the
- 56:23Speaker 1: way he plays. Yeah, there's a good chance that they're both.
- 56:27Speaker 1: They're both very high on the league capabilities, right, they
- 56:32Speaker 1: have both that type of talent. I think for Susie's
- 56:35Speaker 1: first round talent, I think Foge is late first, early
- 56:39Speaker 1: second if they reach their peak potential on both because
- 56:43Speaker 1: I think both of them have that capability. I think
- 56:45Speaker 1: think both have first round I think by the think
- 56:46Speaker 1: for SUSI can be top ten if he shows up
- 56:50Speaker 1: the way that everybody's predicting and the way everybody has
- 56:53Speaker 1: graded him. He's just that dude and he's shown it
- 56:56Speaker 1: into Texas football. So we'll see what that looks like
- 56:59Speaker 1: on that part, next question here, which I think is interesting,
- 57:03Speaker 1: And then we're going to talk about these week zero games.
- 57:06Speaker 1: How many Natties do you think will be one under
- 57:09Speaker 1: BV before he either retires or leaves Oklahoma. Now, I
- 57:12Speaker 1: don't think he leaves Oklahoma by choice. Things have got
- 57:17Speaker 1: really bad before b be gone about. I don't think
- 57:20Speaker 1: that that's going to be a situation natties. I think
- 57:25Speaker 1: over the next cause I see twenty years out of him.
- 57:29Speaker 1: I think he can pull a twenty year here. He
- 57:31Speaker 1: has the personality to do it, the work ethic forward,
- 57:35Speaker 1: and I think he has the mindset. I think he
- 57:40Speaker 1: can pull at least two coop what you think.
- 57:44Speaker 2: He's fifty three years old, born in nineteen seventy's. He's
- 57:50Speaker 2: a Salona, Kansas guy. He doesn't understand not working. This
- 57:56Speaker 2: is a guy who continues to get out there and
- 57:58Speaker 2: go crazy. Yeah yeah, so and Onnikuno, I'm with you,
- 58:05Speaker 2: like you know, let's I'm I'm an I don't want
- 58:09Speaker 2: to talk way out in the future like that. I think.
- 58:12Speaker 2: I remember after one of our losses last year, I
- 58:16Speaker 2: think it was after which was a KU loss last year,
- 58:19Speaker 2: you were like, hey, Oklahoma's ranked X in the in
- 58:22Speaker 2: the the playoff rankings, and my answer was, I don't care,
- 58:26Speaker 2: Like I don't care now now it's like, let's get
- 58:28Speaker 2: better for the next year. So but I will say
- 58:31Speaker 2: this is I see Brent Vinnables winning at least two
- 58:34Speaker 2: national championships in his tenure here. I think that the
- 58:37Speaker 2: way that he's built it up. And you know, we're
- 58:39Speaker 2: working on a guest who really focused on you know,
- 58:43Speaker 2: a how o you and brtentent Vinnibles has built this
- 58:47Speaker 2: team over the past couple of years and how they
- 58:49Speaker 2: were five, you know, five steps ahead. And I just
- 58:54Speaker 2: really believe that he is he is trying to build
- 58:57Speaker 2: this program to be sustainable for the future from an
- 59:00Speaker 2: and iil standpoint, from a culture standpoint, Uh, investing back
- 59:03Speaker 2: in the players, uh, you know, a player led team,
- 59:06Speaker 2: you know it, don't don't get that wrong, like that's
- 59:10Speaker 2: this team still is ran by the coaches. But if
- 59:12Speaker 2: you can have the players actually running you know what
- 59:16Speaker 2: you do on the field, there's ownership there, yes, and
- 59:20Speaker 2: everybody in here, everybody in here has a job. And
- 59:23Speaker 2: when you just show up to collect the paycheck and
- 59:25Speaker 2: bounce out, the investment's not going to be there the
- 59:28Speaker 2: same way as someone who comes in and is that
- 59:30Speaker 2: really takes ownership of their job. So that's why I
- 59:33Speaker 2: think that, uh, you know, it's fifteen years so that
- 59:36Speaker 2: would put him at sixty eight years old.
- 59:39Speaker 1: You know.
- 59:40Speaker 2: I believe it's going to be a very very cool,
- 59:43Speaker 2: you know process, but it's going to get harder and
- 59:45Speaker 2: harder and harder to win these national championships because I mean,
- 59:49Speaker 2: you're you're you're you're playing the best of the best
- 59:51Speaker 2: at the end of the year instead of you know,
- 59:54Speaker 2: basically being given an opportunity to go and play two games.
- 59:59Speaker 2: So it's a I mean, you got to look at
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: OU this year is if OU finds himself in the
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: conference championship game, OU is going to end the season
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: with Missouri, Alabama, LSU and then one of those teams
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: again or a Georgia And so I mean, that's that's
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: a tough stretch. And then if you don't win that
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: game and you make it into the playoff, now you
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: got to turn around the next week and play another
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: team who obviously is in the top fifteen of the country.
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: And I think some of those things are hard. So
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: let's let's I want to see, you know, Brent vinnibles
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: continue to keep this culture going forward. And again this
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: is all speculation. We think this defense going to be
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: a top five defense in you know in the SEC.
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: You know, probably top three, you know, top fifteen in
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: the country. Like we got to see it. It's it's
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: still got to show up. I saw questions about the
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: zone coverage. You know, how does the zone coverage play
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: out this year, because that's not just a defensive back thing, Jay,
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this multiple times, like
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: that's a linebacker thing. Also. You know, you can't play
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: good zone coverage with the linebackers not being in the
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: right spots because they call that a window and that's
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: how you beat zone coverage. So we got those pieces
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: and then you know, obviously Jackson Arnold he has to
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: take off because you need Jackson Arnold to be in
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: that in that you know probably somewhere around thirty total touchdowns,
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: you know, between five and eight you know turnovers. You
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: need him to be in that this year one and
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: continue to take you know, steps going forward, because complimentary
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: football can happen when both sides are playing good. But
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: i'd also don't want the reverse of what we've seen
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: in the past couple of years where we have just
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: a kick ass defense and an offense that is struggling
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: to do anything.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me. Yeah, you don't want to have one
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: side and not the other, in which I love that
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: we're balancing it out. We're actually focusing mainly on defense
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: because we know the offense is going to be there,
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: so there's no reason to be concerned there. So, MANI
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: asks pretty good when it we'll wrap this up. I
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: know our safety room is deep. But do you guys
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: think Boganowski is too good to keep off the field. Bro,
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest, man. So
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: I think that Boganowski athleticism wise, capabilities wise, I think
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to keep him off the field.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: I don't know about scheme wise yet though, right, that's
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: my question. How is he picking up the scheme? Is
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: he ready to get out there and not be a
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: liability as a young player. I don't see him hitting
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: the field because of film learning the playbook fully, but
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: I do see him playing in some of these in
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: some of the games where there's a big blowout, right,
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: I can see some fourth quarter play out of him.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: I can see four play out of Reggie powers. And
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: it's only because understanding your responsibilities. Because I'm correct, right,
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: it sounds like there's a good chance you can have
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: a Bogan and Powers out there, you know, playing Cheetah
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: jumping into Cheetah roll on top of safety and Boganalysi's
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: gonna get bigger, right, I can expect him to play
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: at like two thirty. He big kid powers too, because
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: Reggie is mm hmm RB three is came in big boy,
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: and he's still hovering around two ten. I could totally
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: see him going into two twenties and being a like
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: some of that last dudes on a regular basis. So
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't think. I think scheme wise
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: is what's going to keep him off the field today.
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be his capabilities. I think
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: he has a very high ceiling. I think just learning
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: everything is what will slow him down. What you think.
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: I mean, he can go as far as he wants to.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: And if you you know, off camera when I talked
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: to his dad, I mean, de should have probably been
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: a four high, you know, high four star player, but
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: some sour grapes hit and you know, he he he
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: kind of stayed under the radar because of other people
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: hoarding things. And so this was a humongous win by
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: Coach Hall. And I mean Coach Hall has I mean
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: he's somewhat overshadowed because of Emma Jones, but dude is
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: He's going to be on the field quite often this year.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: And he's a guy who is smart. He makes the
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: decisions the correct way. Listen in some of the stuff
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: that I you know, all the film stuff that I've seen,
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: he's not he's not insane, but he's got the the
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: little bit of crazy that you need. So when we
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: remember back in the day the old Brandon everage hits,
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: you know, a lot of us grew up thinking that's
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: how safety play needed to be played at Oklahoma, and
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: we haven't had a guy I think was a Quentin Carter.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: He had a little bit of it, but most of
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: our guys were big athletic guys like Reggie Smith, you
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: know at safety. You know, since then, you had some
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: you know, I guess ill advised hits here and there.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: But Boganowski is going to bring some fear and again
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: go over the middle is going to be a business
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: decision if he's out there playing Cheetah and guys, don't
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: don't be super surprised either, Jay, and I've said this
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: to you, don't be super surprised if you look out
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: there and you're there's four freaking safeties on the field, like,
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: what's going on? Uh No, that is a very big
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: possibility that you know to happen at times.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: The zach Lly defense man, he does run a three
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: safety high. Often you may see a fourth one populate
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: instead of a dB just because you want to make
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: sure you're hitting somebody as well as a lot of corners.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if anything. Shout out
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: to Midlands Sooners for the five dollars. Thank you so much.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Sheiba doab writing with a brush, writing
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: number one on a piece of paper.
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: All right, number one, only one the description. I think
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: you got a little little description there. I love it, man,
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: appreciate love it.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: We appreciate that one hundred percent. So all right, cool
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: week zero. Right looking at this schedule here you got
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: the Florida State Georgia Tech Game. And honestly, when you
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: look past the top twenty five and you start looking
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: at some of the smaller games, like I think SMU
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: Nevada's gonna be an interesting one if you decide to
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: go into FCS, You've got I don't think we have
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: anybody big in here for these games. We're trying to
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: think there was there's gotta be somebody else in here. Yeah, oh,
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: Montana State, you know, New Mexico. Man, But I think
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: that Florida State, Georgia Tech games will be what's gonna
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: be interesting. That's the one I'm I'm going to be
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: tuned into personally.
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: What about you, Yeah, I mean Georgia, Georgia Tech. Georgia
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: Tech has they've got something up their sleeve. I mean,
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: if you guys have seen, you know, they signed an
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: absolute stud at Offensive Lineman. They are rumored to be
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: in the competition for a couple of other guys that
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: they typically don't get and which is kind of the
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: good side of you know, the good side of n
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: I L is some of these schools can pony up
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: and get something going. I mean you kind of just
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: see it as the Nase Cannady stuff to Texas Tech.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: It's you know, when you got opportunity to you know,
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: maybe put your your your campus on the map. You know,
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: creating emotion is a really really good option.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Yeah, you pointed, you pointed it out real quick. The
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: beauty of n I L is that it provides the
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: parody that people claim that they want. Yeah, in some capacity,
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna get an occasional big time player
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: that's gonna go to a random school in I L
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: wise or academic wise in i L and academic wise,
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. I mean, you know, it
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: takes them away from schools that you don't want them
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: to go to. Is unfortunately your school ain't one of them.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: But anyway, back to s m UVA.
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: SMU and Nevada is another big one. You know, Nevada
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: is a team that has has some some prowess to
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: them on offense, and you know they they they always
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: do well, they always can put up points. S MU
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: is I wouldn't even call them a dark horse in
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: the ACC anymore. This year. I would think that a
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: lot of people are, you know, starting to give them
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: a little bit of flowers because you know, you don't
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: know what Miami is going to look like, you don't
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: know what you know, what what Florida State is going
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: to look like this year, you know with DJU coming in,
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: you know, how does the how's the hangover from the
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: end of the year last year? You know, hurt so
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: But yeah, the Georgia Tech Georgia Tech Florida State game.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: That's one of the really really hard things about these
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: early season games with some of these players. You know,
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: when two teams play and you're like, what are we
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: looking at?
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: Here is?
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: You know, last year you saw Florida State, you know,
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: kick three, say shades of you know what out of LSU,
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: and you thought, man, Lsu, may I struggle going five hundred.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: This year you saw Notre Dame ball out and you thought, man,
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: Notre Dame is going to be in the playoffs. And
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: so I always just try to, you know, keep like
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: I said it earlier in the show, keep yourself, you know,
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: a little, a little temper that enthusiasm because some of
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: these things are are big. And you know, Hawaii Hawaii
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: is another program. I mean they you know, that's one
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: of those games to where.
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: Why is fun?
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: What fun team to watch? And guys, again, would you
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: rather watch Delaware State, Hawaii or whatever's on ESPN right now?
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: I'm gonna go seven.
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: It's also at ten fifty nine pm eleven o'clock. I
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: don't think anybody's gonna be probably up. I mean unless
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: you really won't miss Pack twelve after dark. I'm gonna
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: miss Pack twelve after dark. You know, when I wake
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and I couldn't
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: sleep and it's not going I turned TV on and boom,
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: we got a packed twelve game going into the Washington
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: game with cam Ward's going in the fourth quarter of
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: Washington State. Like, oh man, this is good stuff. We
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: ain't gonna get that in a moment, Dark is dead.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: I think so, And I'm looking, okay, it's switched up,
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: and I was gonna say, we got some more games here,
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: but it kind of combo and those two and things together,
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: so it looks like we got four games. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: you got four games going on. But then again on Thursday,
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: the twenty ninth, you know, we get we get a
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: you know, a load of games. Obviously we play on Friday.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: So yeah, it's I think we got some we got
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: some fun. We're days away, like I said.
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Chuck, thank you so
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: much for the kind words here. Coop your interviews with
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: the parents have been dope. Of course, everybody loved them.
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